WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Carson Palmer (04-21-20) 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.480 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.920 Sports Radio. Welcome to the program. It's our two Dan 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:11.120 and The Dane's Dan Patrick Show. Interesting email that we 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:15.200 received last night. We unveiled the letter we got from 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:20.360 Tom Brady's attorneys about our Tampa Bay T shirts. We 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:24.280 understand we need to be in compliance with them. With Tom, 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:26.840 he's filed for the trademark. Now we could extend this, 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:28.280 We could take it all the way up to the 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:33.120 Supreme Court, and Ruth Bader Ginsberg could maybe help us here, 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:35.560 but I think she's got other things to worry about. 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:39.080 And what I'm thinking is you have your chance until 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:42.080 the end of the month. We're being told April twenty seventh, 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:45.159 twenty twenty, we need to take down the T shirts 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:49.280 off of our website. We're working on a new shirt. 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.040 You know in the lawsuit. No, it's not a lawsuit, 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.880 I should say, it's just a it's a polite letter. 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:58.040 It's not even a season to sist. I was hoping 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:01.240 for a season to sist. That'd be good, very possible. 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:06.400 We've tucked your way into one. But perhaps perhaps um 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:11.080 you know what Todd said, he said, you know, we 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.839 should respond to the letter from Tom's lawyers by saying, 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:23.120 we feel deflated, but we'll stopped selling the T shirts. 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:30.000 TV twelve angry men, Oh, we we feel deflated, but 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:36.120 we'll stop selling the T shirts. Oh man, we're in 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:39.920 trou We are in trouble. So I thought, okay, look, 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:41.880 I'm looking at the letter we got. It was a 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:45.040 very polite letter, and I understand this. You know, we 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.480 stopped selling the T shirts by the end of April. 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.440 And but there was a line in there where, you know, 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.600 they were telling us who Tom is, whose name is Tom, 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.560 and he wears number twelve. And I said, well, well 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.600 there's our T shirt, our new T shirt is his 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.400 name is Tom, and then you could put number twelve 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.960 on the back. And then they also said, we appreciate 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:08.720 your enthusiasm for Tom going to Tampa. Do we have 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:12.320 those T shirts up, Paulie, they're still being workshop these 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:17.840 you know colors, Miss Sherberts Sherbert. Now I would call 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:22.799 that cream sickle, but uh, okay, no, I think I 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.160 don't think they own creamsickle. I don't think that the 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:34.399 Buccaneers didn't trademark cream sickle. I don't think actually, well 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.280 water though, yeah, okay, but wait a minute. You know 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:40.200 when we had a street artist in Arcy, when he 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.480 painted the Tom Brady mural and we put him in 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:46.400 the cream Sickle, Arcy said, it's not known as cream sickle. 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:51.480 He had a different color for it. Maybe we'll trademark 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:56.840 that wouldn't Popsicle owned cream Sickle anyway. M they're the 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:02.760 ones that came up with the delicious treat creamsickle. I 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.639 don't know. I can't, like, I can only handle one lawsuit. 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:10.560 I can't handle you know, if Popsickle comes after me? Here? God, 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:16.600 how great? How great? Is this? All right? Well, we 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:18.840 have the T shirts. They're up there now. We are 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.920 already onto our next you know where the Patriots would 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.640 always be on to the next opponent. We're onto the 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.639 next T shirt, like we're on. We're not. Hey, I'm 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:29.440 not here to I'm not I'm not here to talk 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:31.919 about Tompa Bay. I'm here to talk about it. Our 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:38.600 new T shirt we're onto. His name is Tom. Uh. 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.120 These lawyers that Tom has are on the West coast. 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:45.560 Hopefully they're not up yet. Nobody gets the show out 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:49.880 there anyway. Nah, we'll be fine. Yeah, all right? Uh 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:51.920 so those are the t shirts that we'll have those 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:53.440 up on the website if you'd like to get His 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:58.800 name is Tom Todd. That's really funny and it's rare 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.560 when I say that about you, But it would have 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.320 been nice if you said it on the air. But hey, 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:10.360 you did. Okay there, all right this according to Google. Gosh. 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:12.840 We feel deflated, but we'll stop selling a T shirt. 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:19.200 That's good. That's good. Popsicle Oh, Creamsickle trademark d fudge Sickle, 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:25.279 Yo Sickle. They're registered trademarks of Unilever Group of Companies 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.440 and can only use be used to I identify the 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:33.200 frozen confection products of Unilever. They may not be used 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.800 to refer to pros. Well, no, this is as long 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:39.320 as you don't use creamsickle and you're selling a frozen 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:48.200 confection product, then you're good. I think, all right, I 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.359 need some I need to get lawyered up here bowl 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.800 in Washington joins us Hi ball. What do you have 0:04:53.880 --> 0:05:01.520 for me? Good morning? Five ten one bodies. Okay, you 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.479 can do the Tom thing. His name is Tom, or 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.239 my name is Tom or whatever. Do not put twelve 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.320 on the back or you will get another letter and 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:14.200 it will not be as nice. Okay, they may have 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.640 a point on that one. Okay, all right, well thank 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.280 you bull. It actually sounded like Bull is threatening us. 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:25.160 But he was a representative. He was he was he 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:29.680 was calling from Washington. Okay, yeah, you will get another letter. Yeah, okay, 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:33.480 easy there, easy there. Yeah, mclen what about using my idea? 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:37.279 Number nine, Tom tupa two thousand and two Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.520 We've wanted to do a tupa T shirt forever ever 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:43.040 we have we have, um Now, I don't. I don't 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.640 want to do that because it's number nine. I just 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:50.039 think his name is Tom and that's it. I don't 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.720 need anything else, very simple. Have it in uh, you know, 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:58.320 some pewter in there, whatever else read in that uniform, 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.800 then we're good. All right, we're good. You don't have 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:04.520 to do creamsicicle. I don't want pops Peter. Don't say pewter. 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.600 There's only one. Pewter is only used in reference to 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:12.160 Bucks uniforms, so don't say that work. Yeah, but they 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:19.040 don't own pewter, right, Unilever might. That's a pretty big 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.240 company too. I don't think we want them. Oh no, no, no, 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:23.120 I'm not. I'm not going down the cream cycle road. 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:24.440 I will do that. I don't. I don't want to 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.080 get sued by them as well. Sounds like we need 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.760 to go fund me just saying are the Buccaneers able 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.200 to use the word creamsickle? No, they would not be 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.479 able to use that word to describe the uniform. So 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:36.080 we can use it and the public can use it. 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.360 But when if you look at the Tampa Bay Bucks website, yeah, 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.080 and their social media, they don't use the word creamsicle 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.680 because they are actually know what they're doing and think 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:47.120 about lost stuff. Paul in Colorado, hold on, Paul wants 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:53.679 to talk to you. Hey, Paul, I go by doctor 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:59.040 p J six two two thirty former USC Offensive Center. 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:05.040 All right, I was sued by Virgin Enterprises about fifteen 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:09.240 years ago and it was a federal lawsuit. I never 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:12.120 got a letter, and that was before they had any 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:19.720 presence in Nevada. My company was Virgin Properties, and this 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:23.880 lawsuit was forty pages and it was all full of bologna. 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.280 But the cost to defend it was going to be 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:35.560 eighty to one hundred thousand. And in trademark entrenchment, there 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:41.360 is no award of attorney fees If you win. So 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:43.360 I was going to be out eighty to one hundred 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:47.280 grand defending the word and not the liked this. It 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.160 was not about a logo. It was a word virgin 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:55.320 and I was horribly offended. All right, well, thank you, Paul. 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:59.000 People starting to make me nervous. Here, get those T 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:03.480 shirts down now, we're not selling anymore Tampa Bay T shirt. 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:09.600 Chance McLevin. I defended my Virginia time, isn't I think 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:13.720 it was a little longer than that. I think it 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.480 was probably closer to twenty two twenty three for you 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.760 something like that. Stop. That's a good line, though, good line. 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.320 Back row killing it well, todd last hour at the 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.080 end of the hour, not good, but we started this hour. 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:29.760 Good note here, all right. I just got an email 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:37.200 the Charger's new uniforms and oh soaked it in. Great. 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:46.040 Those look great? Those are really that? I like it. 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:50.480 I like it. That's sharp. You got the numbers on 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:54.640 the helmet. You got a white helmet, you got the bolts. 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:59.760 I've got the powder blue, and then I got white pants. 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:04.240 I got powder blue, the gold pans white with gold. 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:08.960 I got white on white. I don't know what that color. 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.840 I guess that's darker blue. And then I have black, 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:16.400 all black, and then all blue, like a dark dark blue, 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:22.000 the navy blue. Those are sharp. People really like the 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.480 lightning bolt down the leg of the pants. Yeah, it's good. 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:26.720 I like it. I was just surprised that they were 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:30.280 releasing this at seven in the morning Los Angeles time. 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:34.680 But well done. I don't I don't have any problems 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:41.680 with this. Socks look great. I'm good. I'm good. Anybody 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:45.280 have an issue with these chargers look good. It's hard 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:49.079 to screw up the charge your uniform. I mean, it's 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:52.120 just it's with the color scheme. And as long as 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:54.720 you got a bolt in there, you know, you can 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:56.360 do pretty well. I like the numbers on the side 0:09:56.400 --> 0:10:03.560 of the helmet. I like them. That's old school. Uh yeah, 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.280 that's good man. It's hard when you can't criticize something 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.320 like there's I know, I kept going, yeah, I gotta 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.680 have something to criticize here. Carson Palmer, the former number 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:14.480 one picked by the Bengals, join us coming up a 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.040 little bit later. On your phone calls are welcome, Age 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:20.480 seven seven three d P show email address Dpadwanpatrick dot com. 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:22.640 Just got a tweet that says can we get a 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:27.880 cease and deflate T shirt? I think we're I don't 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:31.720 want to poke the bear. I think I like Fritzie. 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.800 Maybe Fritzie you craft the letter to send to the 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:38.080 lawyers to say, you know, we feel deflated, but we 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.600 will stop selling that T shirt. I think they'll appreciate. Yeah, 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.560 they will. Yeah, they love Tom loves that. He loves 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:48.040 talking about that deflate k We just have to we 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.600 gotta be compliant. We gotta be nice with this. They're 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.120 nice to us. We're gonna We're gonna stop doing this. 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:58.000 You know, we just had Bruce Arians on my Buccaneers. 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.600 But yeah, we'll make sure that we stop selling those 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.000 two shirts by the end of the month, if not sooner, 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.120 but we will have our new T shirt ready to go. Uh, 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:11.920 Jared and Connecticut jointes. Hi, Jared, what's on your mind? Dan? 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.319 How's it going to God? Oh? Great? Yeah great? So 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.160 I'm I'm going off with Seaton's idea with this is 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:22.280 Robert Paulson. But then you have like a silhouette of 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:25.440 a body laying down and like Brad Pitt and Edward 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:28.560 Norton standing over him saying this was Tom. And there's 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:30.960 like a sheet over him and somehow there's like a 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:35.520 Patriots logos somewhere. This was Tom. That's a little busy 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:39.280 for us, Jared, But thank you little morbid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.200 we don't think we need to do that. We I 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.960 want Tampa to do well this year. I'd like to 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:48.800 distance any reference to Seaton's idea from that that it's 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:52.000 on the transcript. It's on the transcript. The record will 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:57.720 show along the lines of Seaton. Yes, McLevin, Oh my gosh, 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.880 the fight club stuff is terrible. But yeah, we can't. 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:02.960 By the way, I explained this whole story to my 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:04.880 wife in the break and she just said, you guys 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:07.720 are the biggest knuckleheads in the world. Yes. I had 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:11.160 a conversation at dinner with my wife last night and 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.840 I'm telling her about the Tampa Bay t shirts and 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.960 she said, who would buy that? That's so stupid? And 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:20.600 I go, exactly, and she goes, and why can't you 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:23.120 call Tom Brady and just say, hey, why don't we 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.920 go into business together? I said, honey, it doesn't work 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:29.640 that way. I mean I can try, you know, we'll 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:33.280 we'll use our resources with Tom's and then maybe we could, 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:36.240 you know, come up with you know, TV twelve Enterprises 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.080 featuring Dan Patrick and the Dance. Yes, point, look, we 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:40.840 know we're dope. Hw'd you like to be the lawyer 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.400 who went to college for eleven years and now it's 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:46.520 spending their day dealing with this? Hey? Is that shirt 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:48.199 email ready to send out? No, No No, we got to 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.120 run it through legal again. And uh, yeah, what kind 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:53.240 of case you're working on? It's uh, you know it's 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:57.520 it's it's the State versus Dan Patrick tompa Bay t 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:01.400 shirt at all when he twisted run way. So what 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.520 you've been working on while I'm working with Tom Brady now? 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:07.440 Like oh really? Yeah, wow, that's amazing you work with her? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.439 the top of Bay lawsuit? Yeah, oh I'm not familiar 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.800 with that. Yeah, I mean Roe v. Wade, Tom pa 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:17.080 Bay versus Dan Patrick. Yeah, it's probably gonna be just 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.800 as explosive there, ripped from the headlines. Law and Order 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.280 is not going to pick this one up. Oh I 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.880 don't know, you know, you never can't tell with that. 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:29.719 Somebody could have fun with that. Uh. This year is 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:31.800 going to be different, as NFL fans were not going 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.840 to get fooled again by those trade rumors, right, don't 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:38.120 we say that every year? Mock drafts, insider reports, front 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:43.440 office lying season open for business. I kept saying, tune 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.480 out the noise, don't believe it. You know, go back 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:49.520 to the Tom Brady rumors and all those rumors. Remember 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.800 the Cowboys, Remember that silly rumor, And I went, you're 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.640 being trolled folks. Maybe the Chargers, but he didn't want 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.680 to go to the West coast. So it probably came 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:02.240 down to one team and that was Tampa I mean 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:06.520 Tampa Bay. So you know the rumors here, the rumors 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:10.400 with Odell Beckham junior. Oh, You've got people who'll still, 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.679 you know, on their soapbox saying he's going to be traded. 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.440 And I I'm gonna be right, well, I can tell 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:20.640 you that probably with certainty, eventually Odell Beckham will be 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.040 on another team. I'm going to go out on a 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.640 limb and do a shower of shame that over the 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:29.400 next three years Odell Beckham I signed up to do 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.600 five years, five more years, so we got three years. 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.600 So I you know, if I have to pay, okay, 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.640 I'll do a shower shame. If Odell Beckham is not 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.600 on another team, it's going to happen. I just said 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:43.120 from my source, Minnesota was saying we're more likely we 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.120 want to get a wide receiver in the draft. That 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:50.800 that's according to somebody with Minnesota. We and then this 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.040 followed up by saying, why would we bring in a 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:55.400 headache when we just got rid of a headache and 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:59.360 Stefan dis doesn't mean they wouldn't be interested in Odell 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.520 Beckham at least kick the tires? What's he gonna cost me? Yeah? 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:06.480 I get that. Teams make inquiries all the time. Hey, 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:11.040 what's Leonard Fournette going to cost us? I mean that 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:14.400 that that's happening now, like you just kicked the tires. Uh. 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:16.160 You know, I saw where the Chiefs are trying to 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:20.000 trade up so they can take Henry Ruggs out of Alabama. 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.840 All you do is inquire, Hey, what what? What? What 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:24.480 are you looking for? What's going to cost us here? 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.120 Does that mean you're gonna do it? You just you're 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:30.080 curious about it? Because if I can buy Odell Beckham 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:32.760 Lowe and sell him hide, then I would do that, 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:35.800 and I think it would be best for all involved. 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:39.240 If Odell Beckham was on another team and maybe with 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.760 an established quarterback would help out because Baker Mayfield I 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.280 think would do better if he didn't have to acquiesce 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:49.640 to Odell, you know when they're on the field. But look, 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.400 you got people say that he's gonna get traded, and 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.000 now I'm gonna stick by my story. And good for you. 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:57.200 I mean, if you feel like your sources, you know, 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:59.840 legitimate and not you know, hanging out to dry, great 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.960 or you're not being played with this, you know the 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.440 Browns just because they're saying we're not shopping him. But 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:09.040 you get these rumors now, and you want to get 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:12.120 a report. Not I'm hearing because I'm hearing is not 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:15.560 a report. Folks, when you hear somebody say I'm hearing, 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.240 then you have to have some skepticism there to a 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:23.280 tongue of ioloa. All we're doing is hearing. Hey, it 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.000 could go to three or twenty three. Hey, I'm hearing 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:27.880 the Patriots they're going to go up and get him. Hey, 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:30.080 I'm hearing that the Miami is going to take Justin 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:35.800 Herbert not ta Okay, he's creating the most buzz right now. 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:40.360 And if you said, is he going higher than you 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:43.600 think or lower? I would say still higher I still 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:47.840 think there's the intrigue of who he is, what he is, 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:51.440 and the possibilities of his ceiling being a lot higher 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.600 than Justin Herbert. If I'm the Dolphins and he falls 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:56.960 into my lap at five, I take him. Now you're 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:00.160 starting to hear that the Redskins are getting some interest 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.960 in team or teams moving up to number two. I 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:04.720 don't know if that's true or not. But if I'm 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:08.520 the Redskins, I'd put it out there. I would I 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.960 put it out there just to let somebody know. If 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:14.199 you're gonna go up and get Tah, you might have 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:18.639 to go to Tua in the draft. You know, the 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.120 Lions at three, the Giants at four. You know you've 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:23.359 heard they're open for business. Well, yeah, you want to 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:26.520 be open for business. Do I think somebody's moving up there? 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:30.159 Probably not. It feels like if Miami gets him, they 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:34.280 take him at five. But the Chargers. Chargers may go, hey, 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:37.040 if he falls into our lap, great, Hey if we 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:40.840 get Justin Herbert, great, But I don't know if somebody's 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.639 gonna go up and get him. I don't want to 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.080 spend too much to go and get him, but I 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.800 would want him if I'm Miami. I would and maybe 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:54.440 false maybe Carolina is there, maybe falls to Jacksonville, maybe 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:58.119 the raiders there. You're hearing and that's all you're hearing. 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:03.200 It's just hearsay. We don't have any reports here. Open 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.800 for business. Okay, we'll talk to Carson Palmer about this. 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.720 What advice has he been giving Joe Burrow on this 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:13.800 whole process going to his former team, and also his 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:15.960 thoughts on the two a tongue of ioloa risk and 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.439 the reward? Is there more of a fear of taking 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.560 him or not taking him? Take a break here twenty 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:26.200 after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick Show. Check 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:29.680 things all the time email, Instagram, But what about checking 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:32.480 something as important as your credit? 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If 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.320 you missed any of our celebrity interviews from the Mercedes 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:45.679 AMG Man Cave, you can go to the Dan Patrick 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.800 Show app watch and listen from inside the Mercedes AMG 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:53.920 Man Cave Mercedes AMG Driving Performance. Your phone calls coming up. 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:57.560 He's Carson Palmer's former Bengals quarterback Heisman Trophy winner at 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:01.480 USC and he'll tell you what he is joining us 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:04.200 on behalf of coming up here in a moment. How 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:07.720 are you, Carson, Well, Dan, thanks for having me. Yeah. 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.119 I was curious when you were leading into the draft. 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:12.639 Leading up to the draft in what two thousand and four, 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:16.400 were there any rumors about the Bengals or oh three, 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:19.399 the Bengals trading that pick. You know, it feels like 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:22.040 there's all these rumors leading up to the draft every year. 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:25.600 I'm curious, did were there any rumors circulating about you 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:31.000 and the Bengals? No, I mean up up probably two 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:34.880 or three months before the draft. Um, I really started 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:36.879 to see, you know, clearly that they were going to 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:40.520 take me. Um. You know, you go through the interview process, 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:43.160 you're talking to coaches on the phone, you go out 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:47.600 and visit visit the organization and visit the facilities and 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:49.520 meet with the coaches and meet the players. And I 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:52.760 could tell pretty early on that they were they were 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.280 going to draft me. And there really wasn't a lot 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:59.000 of talk. I know, Chicago was right behind the Bengals 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:01.200 that year, I think like three or four. There was 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.920 some talk um that maybe they would they would move up, 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:07.280 but really it was it was pretty clear cut. And 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:10.640 I knew with a couple of months up coming up 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:12.200 to the draft that I was going to go to Cinci. 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:17.480 Any apprehension going to Cincinnati, not on my end. I 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:21.640 was really excited. Um. I remember going through We got them. 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.880 We played in the Orange Bowl in January, and then 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:28.119 I started bouncing around the different agents and meeting with 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:30.600 different agencies, trying to figure out which agent I was 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:34.840 going to pick, And a number of agents had, you know, 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:39.919 plans to get to this team or get to that team. 0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:42.720 And I ended up choosing Dave Gunn and Athletes first 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:46.000 and went with him and had a great career together. 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:48.080 And and he just kind of said, what do you 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:49.760 want to do? And I said, I wanted to be 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:52.560 the number one pick. And I just went out and 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.320 trained and got ready and got ready for the interview process, 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:57.520 got ready from the workouts and all the things that 0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:00.480 came up. Um, But there wasn't a whole lot of 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:05.560 talk outside of my camp about anything other than getting 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:08.040 ready to play for the Bengals. You start to look 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:12.080 at these prospects draft picks. In with Joe Burrow. Now 0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:14.280 we're starting to hear, well, he doesn't have a strong arm, 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:18.640 and and that's true, he may not have a strong arm. 0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:21.880 I always get nervous when I hear when somebody leads with, boy, 0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:24.240 he's got a big arm. I don't I don't care 0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:26.639 if my quarterback has a big arm. I want to 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:28.960 know if he has a good arm, an accurate arm. 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:32.600 But you know, if I look at what Justin Herbert 0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:35.680 has and look at what Joe Burrow has, I can 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:39.280 see why Joe Burrow is considered a better prospect because 0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:41.720 he does have better accuracy. He can throw you open 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:46.119 where Justin Herbert has athleticism. Here, what should we really 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:49.359 be looking for, listening for when it comes to these 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:52.359 quarterbacks and how it's going to translate into success in 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:56.880 the NFL. Yeah, a big arm is great, and it's 0:22:57.040 --> 0:23:00.479 it's sexy, and it's it's fun and it ooze and asia. 0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:03.280 But if you can't find the soft spot in the 0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:07.320 pocket and create space within the pocket while your eyes 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:11.000 are downfield reading a defense, finding the open receiver, and 0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:14.840