Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 1: and The Dane's Dan Patrick Show. Interesting email that we
Speaker 1: received last night. We unveiled the letter we got from
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's attorneys about our Tampa Bay T shirts. We
Speaker 1: understand we need to be in compliance with them. With Tom,
Speaker 1: he's filed for the trademark. Now we could extend this,
Speaker 1: We could take it all the way up to the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court, and Ruth Bader Ginsberg could maybe help us here,
Speaker 1: but I think she's got other things to worry about.
Speaker 1: And what I'm thinking is you have your chance until
Speaker 1: the end of the month. We're being told April twenty seventh,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, we need to take down the T shirts
Speaker 1: off of our website. We're working on a new shirt.
Speaker 1: You know in the lawsuit. No, it's not a lawsuit,
Speaker 1: I should say, it's just a it's a polite letter.
Speaker 1: It's not even a season to sist. I was hoping
Speaker 1: for a season to sist. That'd be good, very possible.
Speaker 1: We've tucked your way into one. But perhaps perhaps um
Speaker 1: you know what Todd said, he said, you know, we
Speaker 1: should respond to the letter from Tom's lawyers by saying,
Speaker 1: we feel deflated, but we'll stopped selling the T shirts.
Speaker 1: TV twelve angry men, Oh, we we feel deflated, but
Speaker 1: we'll stop selling the T shirts. Oh man, we're in
Speaker 1: trou We are in trouble. So I thought, okay, look,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the letter we got. It was a
Speaker 1: very polite letter, and I understand this. You know, we
Speaker 1: stopped selling the T shirts by the end of April.
Speaker 1: And but there was a line in there where, you know,
Speaker 1: they were telling us who Tom is, whose name is Tom,
Speaker 1: and he wears number twelve. And I said, well, well
Speaker 1: there's our T shirt, our new T shirt is his
Speaker 1: name is Tom, and then you could put number twelve
Speaker 1: on the back. And then they also said, we appreciate
Speaker 1: your enthusiasm for Tom going to Tampa. Do we have
Speaker 1: those T shirts up, Paulie, they're still being workshop these
Speaker 1: you know colors, Miss Sherberts Sherbert. Now I would call
Speaker 1: that cream sickle, but uh, okay, no, I think I
Speaker 1: don't think they own creamsickle. I don't think that the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers didn't trademark cream sickle. I don't think actually, well
Speaker 1: water though, yeah, okay, but wait a minute. You know
Speaker 1: when we had a street artist in Arcy, when he
Speaker 1: painted the Tom Brady mural and we put him in
Speaker 1: the cream Sickle, Arcy said, it's not known as cream sickle.
Speaker 1: He had a different color for it. Maybe we'll trademark
Speaker 1: that wouldn't Popsicle owned cream Sickle anyway. M they're the
Speaker 1: ones that came up with the delicious treat creamsickle. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I can't, like, I can only handle one lawsuit.
Speaker 1: I can't handle you know, if Popsickle comes after me? Here? God,
Speaker 1: how great? How great? Is this? All right? Well, we
Speaker 1: have the T shirts. They're up there now. We are
Speaker 1: already onto our next you know where the Patriots would
Speaker 1: always be on to the next opponent. We're onto the
Speaker 1: next T shirt, like we're on. We're not. Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: not here to I'm not I'm not here to talk
Speaker 1: about Tompa Bay. I'm here to talk about it. Our
Speaker 1: new T shirt we're onto. His name is Tom. Uh.
Speaker 1: These lawyers that Tom has are on the West coast.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they're not up yet. Nobody gets the show out
Speaker 1: there anyway. Nah, we'll be fine. Yeah, all right? Uh
Speaker 1: so those are the t shirts that we'll have those
Speaker 1: up on the website if you'd like to get His
Speaker 1: name is Tom Todd. That's really funny and it's rare
Speaker 1: when I say that about you, But it would have
Speaker 1: been nice if you said it on the air. But hey,
Speaker 1: you did. Okay there, all right this according to Google. Gosh.
Speaker 1: We feel deflated, but we'll stop selling a T shirt.
Speaker 1: That's good. That's good. Popsicle Oh, Creamsickle trademark d fudge Sickle,
Speaker 1: Yo Sickle. They're registered trademarks of Unilever Group of Companies
Speaker 1: and can only use be used to I identify the
Speaker 1: frozen confection products of Unilever. They may not be used
Speaker 1: to refer to pros. Well, no, this is as long
Speaker 1: as you don't use creamsickle and you're selling a frozen
Speaker 1: confection product, then you're good. I think, all right, I
Speaker 1: need some I need to get lawyered up here bowl
Speaker 1: in Washington joins us Hi ball. What do you have
Speaker 1: for me? Good morning? Five ten one bodies. Okay, you
Speaker 1: can do the Tom thing. His name is Tom, or
Speaker 1: my name is Tom or whatever. Do not put twelve
Speaker 1: on the back or you will get another letter and
Speaker 1: it will not be as nice. Okay, they may have
Speaker 1: a point on that one. Okay, all right, well thank
Speaker 1: you bull. It actually sounded like Bull is threatening us.
Speaker 1: But he was a representative. He was he was he
Speaker 1: was calling from Washington. Okay, yeah, you will get another letter. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: easy there, easy there. Yeah, mclen what about using my idea?
Speaker 1: Number nine, Tom tupa two thousand and two Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: We've wanted to do a tupa T shirt forever ever
Speaker 1: we have we have, um Now, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: want to do that because it's number nine. I just
Speaker 1: think his name is Tom and that's it. I don't
Speaker 1: need anything else, very simple. Have it in uh, you know,
Speaker 1: some pewter in there, whatever else read in that uniform,
Speaker 1: then we're good. All right, we're good. You don't have
Speaker 1: to do creamsicicle. I don't want pops Peter. Don't say pewter.
Speaker 1: There's only one. Pewter is only used in reference to
Speaker 1: Bucks uniforms, so don't say that work. Yeah, but they
Speaker 1: don't own pewter, right, Unilever might. That's a pretty big
Speaker 1: company too. I don't think we want them. Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not going down the cream cycle road.
Speaker 1: I will do that. I don't. I don't want to
Speaker 1: get sued by them as well. Sounds like we need
Speaker 1: to go fund me just saying are the Buccaneers able
Speaker 1: to use the word creamsickle? No, they would not be
Speaker 1: able to use that word to describe the uniform. So
Speaker 1: we can use it and the public can use it.
Speaker 1: But when if you look at the Tampa Bay Bucks website, yeah,
Speaker 1: and their social media, they don't use the word creamsicle
Speaker 1: because they are actually know what they're doing and think
Speaker 1: about lost stuff. Paul in Colorado, hold on, Paul wants
Speaker 1: to talk to you. Hey, Paul, I go by doctor
Speaker 1: p J six two two thirty former USC Offensive Center.
Speaker 1: All right, I was sued by Virgin Enterprises about fifteen
Speaker 1: years ago and it was a federal lawsuit. I never
Speaker 1: got a letter, and that was before they had any
Speaker 1: presence in Nevada. My company was Virgin Properties, and this
Speaker 1: lawsuit was forty pages and it was all full of bologna.
Speaker 1: But the cost to defend it was going to be
Speaker 1: eighty to one hundred thousand. And in trademark entrenchment, there
Speaker 1: is no award of attorney fees If you win. So
Speaker 1: I was going to be out eighty to one hundred
Speaker 1: grand defending the word and not the liked this. It
Speaker 1: was not about a logo. It was a word virgin
Speaker 1: and I was horribly offended. All right, well, thank you, Paul.
Speaker 1: People starting to make me nervous. Here, get those T
Speaker 1: shirts down now, we're not selling anymore Tampa Bay T shirt.
Speaker 1: Chance McLevin. I defended my Virginia time, isn't I think
Speaker 1: it was a little longer than that. I think it
Speaker 1: was probably closer to twenty two twenty three for you
Speaker 1: something like that. Stop. That's a good line, though, good line.
Speaker 1: Back row killing it well, todd last hour at the
Speaker 1: end of the hour, not good, but we started this hour.
Speaker 1: Good note here, all right. I just got an email
Speaker 1: the Charger's new uniforms and oh soaked it in. Great.
Speaker 1: Those look great? Those are really that? I like it.
Speaker 1: I like it. That's sharp. You got the numbers on
Speaker 1: the helmet. You got a white helmet, you got the bolts.
Speaker 1: I've got the powder blue, and then I got white pants.
Speaker 1: I got powder blue, the gold pans white with gold.
Speaker 1: I got white on white. I don't know what that color.
Speaker 1: I guess that's darker blue. And then I have black,
Speaker 1: all black, and then all blue, like a dark dark blue,
Speaker 1: the navy blue. Those are sharp. People really like the
Speaker 1: lightning bolt down the leg of the pants. Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1: I like it. I was just surprised that they were
Speaker 1: releasing this at seven in the morning Los Angeles time.
Speaker 1: But well done. I don't I don't have any problems
Speaker 1: with this. Socks look great. I'm good. I'm good. Anybody
Speaker 1: have an issue with these chargers look good. It's hard
Speaker 1: to screw up the charge your uniform. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just it's with the color scheme. And as long as
Speaker 1: you got a bolt in there, you know, you can
Speaker 1: do pretty well. I like the numbers on the side
Speaker 1: of the helmet. I like them. That's old school. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's good man. It's hard when you can't criticize something
Speaker 1: like there's I know, I kept going, yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: have something to criticize here. Carson Palmer, the former number
Speaker 1: one picked by the Bengals, join us coming up a
Speaker 1: little bit later. On your phone calls are welcome, Age
Speaker 1: seven seven three d P show email address Dpadwanpatrick dot com.
Speaker 1: Just got a tweet that says can we get a
Speaker 1: cease and deflate T shirt? I think we're I don't
Speaker 1: want to poke the bear. I think I like Fritzie.
Speaker 1: Maybe Fritzie you craft the letter to send to the
Speaker 1: lawyers to say, you know, we feel deflated, but we
Speaker 1: will stop selling that T shirt. I think they'll appreciate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they will. Yeah, they love Tom loves that. He loves
Speaker 1: talking about that deflate k We just have to we
Speaker 1: gotta be compliant. We gotta be nice with this. They're
Speaker 1: nice to us. We're gonna We're gonna stop doing this.
Speaker 1: You know, we just had Bruce Arians on my Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll make sure that we stop selling those
Speaker 1: two shirts by the end of the month, if not sooner,
Speaker 1: but we will have our new T shirt ready to go. Uh,
Speaker 1: Jared and Connecticut jointes. Hi, Jared, what's on your mind? Dan?
Speaker 1: How's it going to God? Oh? Great? Yeah great? So
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going off with Seaton's idea with this is
Speaker 1: Robert Paulson. But then you have like a silhouette of
Speaker 1: a body laying down and like Brad Pitt and Edward
Speaker 1: Norton standing over him saying this was Tom. And there's
Speaker 1: like a sheet over him and somehow there's like a
Speaker 1: Patriots logos somewhere. This was Tom. That's a little busy
Speaker 1: for us, Jared, But thank you little morbid. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't think we need to do that. We I
Speaker 1: want Tampa to do well this year. I'd like to
Speaker 1: distance any reference to Seaton's idea from that that it's
Speaker 1: on the transcript. It's on the transcript. The record will
Speaker 1: show along the lines of Seaton. Yes, McLevin, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: the fight club stuff is terrible. But yeah, we can't.
Speaker 1: By the way, I explained this whole story to my
Speaker 1: wife in the break and she just said, you guys
Speaker 1: are the biggest knuckleheads in the world. Yes. I had
Speaker 1: a conversation at dinner with my wife last night and
Speaker 1: I'm telling her about the Tampa Bay t shirts and
Speaker 1: she said, who would buy that? That's so stupid? And
Speaker 1: I go, exactly, and she goes, and why can't you
Speaker 1: call Tom Brady and just say, hey, why don't we
Speaker 1: go into business together? I said, honey, it doesn't work
Speaker 1: that way. I mean I can try, you know, we'll
Speaker 1: we'll use our resources with Tom's and then maybe we could,
Speaker 1: you know, come up with you know, TV twelve Enterprises
Speaker 1: featuring Dan Patrick and the Dance. Yes, point, look, we
Speaker 1: know we're dope. Hw'd you like to be the lawyer
Speaker 1: who went to college for eleven years and now it's
Speaker 1: spending their day dealing with this? Hey? Is that shirt
Speaker 1: email ready to send out? No, No No, we got to
Speaker 1: run it through legal again. And uh, yeah, what kind
Speaker 1: of case you're working on? It's uh, you know it's
Speaker 1: it's it's the State versus Dan Patrick tompa Bay t
Speaker 1: shirt at all when he twisted run way. So what
Speaker 1: you've been working on while I'm working with Tom Brady now?
Speaker 1: Like oh really? Yeah, wow, that's amazing you work with her? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the top of Bay lawsuit? Yeah, oh I'm not familiar
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, I mean Roe v. Wade, Tom pa
Speaker 1: Bay versus Dan Patrick. Yeah, it's probably gonna be just
Speaker 1: as explosive there, ripped from the headlines. Law and Order
Speaker 1: is not going to pick this one up. Oh I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, you never can't tell with that.
Speaker 1: Somebody could have fun with that. Uh. This year is
Speaker 1: going to be different, as NFL fans were not going
Speaker 1: to get fooled again by those trade rumors, right, don't
Speaker 1: we say that every year? Mock drafts, insider reports, front
Speaker 1: office lying season open for business. I kept saying, tune
Speaker 1: out the noise, don't believe it. You know, go back
Speaker 1: to the Tom Brady rumors and all those rumors. Remember
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, Remember that silly rumor, And I went, you're
Speaker 1: being trolled folks. Maybe the Chargers, but he didn't want
Speaker 1: to go to the West coast. So it probably came
Speaker 1: down to one team and that was Tampa I mean
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. So you know the rumors here, the rumors
Speaker 1: with Odell Beckham junior. Oh, You've got people who'll still,
Speaker 1: you know, on their soapbox saying he's going to be traded.
Speaker 1: And I I'm gonna be right, well, I can tell
Speaker 1: you that probably with certainty, eventually Odell Beckham will be
Speaker 1: on another team. I'm going to go out on a
Speaker 1: limb and do a shower of shame that over the
Speaker 1: next three years Odell Beckham I signed up to do
Speaker 1: five years, five more years, so we got three years.
Speaker 1: So I you know, if I have to pay, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll do a shower shame. If Odell Beckham is not
Speaker 1: on another team, it's going to happen. I just said
Speaker 1: from my source, Minnesota was saying we're more likely we
Speaker 1: want to get a wide receiver in the draft. That
Speaker 1: that's according to somebody with Minnesota. We and then this
Speaker 1: followed up by saying, why would we bring in a
Speaker 1: headache when we just got rid of a headache and
Speaker 1: Stefan dis doesn't mean they wouldn't be interested in Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham at least kick the tires? What's he gonna cost me? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I get that. Teams make inquiries all the time. Hey,
Speaker 1: what's Leonard Fournette going to cost us? I mean that
Speaker 1: that that's happening now, like you just kicked the tires. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, I saw where the Chiefs are trying to
Speaker 1: trade up so they can take Henry Ruggs out of Alabama.
Speaker 1: All you do is inquire, Hey, what what? What? What
Speaker 1: are you looking for? What's going to cost us here?
Speaker 1: Does that mean you're gonna do it? You just you're
Speaker 1: curious about it? Because if I can buy Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: Lowe and sell him hide, then I would do that,
Speaker 1: and I think it would be best for all involved.
Speaker 1: If Odell Beckham was on another team and maybe with
Speaker 1: an established quarterback would help out because Baker Mayfield I
Speaker 1: think would do better if he didn't have to acquiesce
Speaker 1: to Odell, you know when they're on the field. But look,
Speaker 1: you got people say that he's gonna get traded, and
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna stick by my story. And good for you.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you feel like your sources, you know,
Speaker 1: legitimate and not you know, hanging out to dry, great
Speaker 1: or you're not being played with this, you know the
Speaker 1: Browns just because they're saying we're not shopping him. But
Speaker 1: you get these rumors now, and you want to get
Speaker 1: a report. Not I'm hearing because I'm hearing is not
Speaker 1: a report. Folks, when you hear somebody say I'm hearing,
Speaker 1: then you have to have some skepticism there to a
Speaker 1: tongue of ioloa. All we're doing is hearing. Hey, it
Speaker 1: could go to three or twenty three. Hey, I'm hearing
Speaker 1: the Patriots they're going to go up and get him. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm hearing that the Miami is going to take Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert not ta Okay, he's creating the most buzz right now.
Speaker 1: And if you said, is he going higher than you
Speaker 1: think or lower? I would say still higher I still
Speaker 1: think there's the intrigue of who he is, what he is,
Speaker 1: and the possibilities of his ceiling being a lot higher
Speaker 1: than Justin Herbert. If I'm the Dolphins and he falls
Speaker 1: into my lap at five, I take him. Now you're
Speaker 1: starting to hear that the Redskins are getting some interest
Speaker 1: in team or teams moving up to number two. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's true or not. But if I'm
Speaker 1: the Redskins, I'd put it out there. I would I
Speaker 1: put it out there just to let somebody know. If
Speaker 1: you're gonna go up and get Tah, you might have
Speaker 1: to go to Tua in the draft. You know, the
Speaker 1: Lions at three, the Giants at four. You know you've
Speaker 1: heard they're open for business. Well, yeah, you want to
Speaker 1: be open for business. Do I think somebody's moving up there?
Speaker 1: Probably not. It feels like if Miami gets him, they
Speaker 1: take him at five. But the Chargers. Chargers may go, hey,
Speaker 1: if he falls into our lap, great, Hey if we
Speaker 1: get Justin Herbert, great, But I don't know if somebody's
Speaker 1: gonna go up and get him. I don't want to
Speaker 1: spend too much to go and get him, but I
Speaker 1: would want him if I'm Miami. I would and maybe
Speaker 1: false maybe Carolina is there, maybe falls to Jacksonville, maybe
Speaker 1: the raiders there. You're hearing and that's all you're hearing.
Speaker 1: It's just hearsay. We don't have any reports here. Open
Speaker 1: for business. Okay, we'll talk to Carson Palmer about this.
Speaker 1: What advice has he been giving Joe Burrow on this
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Speaker 1: He's Carson Palmer's former Bengals quarterback Heisman Trophy winner at
Speaker 1: USC and he'll tell you what he is joining us
Speaker 1: on behalf of coming up here in a moment. How
Speaker 1: are you, Carson, Well, Dan, thanks for having me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was curious when you were leading into the draft.
Speaker 1: Leading up to the draft in what two thousand and four,
Speaker 1: were there any rumors about the Bengals or oh three,
Speaker 1: the Bengals trading that pick. You know, it feels like
Speaker 1: there's all these rumors leading up to the draft every year.
Speaker 1: I'm curious, did were there any rumors circulating about you
Speaker 1: and the Bengals? No, I mean up up probably two
Speaker 1: or three months before the draft. Um, I really started
Speaker 1: to see, you know, clearly that they were going to
Speaker 1: take me. Um. You know, you go through the interview process,
Speaker 1: you're talking to coaches on the phone, you go out
Speaker 1: and visit visit the organization and visit the facilities and
Speaker 1: meet with the coaches and meet the players. And I
Speaker 1: could tell pretty early on that they were they were
Speaker 1: going to draft me. And there really wasn't a lot
Speaker 1: of talk. I know, Chicago was right behind the Bengals
Speaker 1: that year, I think like three or four. There was
Speaker 1: some talk um that maybe they would they would move up,
Speaker 1: but really it was it was pretty clear cut. And
Speaker 1: I knew with a couple of months up coming up
Speaker 1: to the draft that I was going to go to Cinci.
Speaker 1: Any apprehension going to Cincinnati, not on my end. I
Speaker 1: was really excited. Um. I remember going through We got them.
Speaker 1: We played in the Orange Bowl in January, and then
Speaker 1: I started bouncing around the different agents and meeting with
Speaker 1: different agencies, trying to figure out which agent I was
Speaker 1: going to pick, And a number of agents had, you know,
Speaker 1: plans to get to this team or get to that team.
Speaker 1: And I ended up choosing Dave Gunn and Athletes first
Speaker 1: and went with him and had a great career together.
Speaker 1: And and he just kind of said, what do you
Speaker 1: want to do? And I said, I wanted to be
Speaker 1: the number one pick. And I just went out and
Speaker 1: trained and got ready and got ready for the interview process,
Speaker 1: got ready from the workouts and all the things that
Speaker 1: came up. Um, But there wasn't a whole lot of
Speaker 1: talk outside of my camp about anything other than getting
Speaker 1: ready to play for the Bengals. You start to look
Speaker 1: at these prospects draft picks. In with Joe Burrow. Now
Speaker 1: we're starting to hear, well, he doesn't have a strong arm,
Speaker 1: and and that's true, he may not have a strong arm.
Speaker 1: I always get nervous when I hear when somebody leads with, boy,
Speaker 1: he's got a big arm. I don't I don't care
Speaker 1: if my quarterback has a big arm. I want to
Speaker 1: know if he has a good arm, an accurate arm.
Speaker 1: But you know, if I look at what Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: has and look at what Joe Burrow has, I can
Speaker 1: see why Joe Burrow is considered a better prospect because
Speaker 1: he does have better accuracy. He can throw you open
Speaker 1: where Justin Herbert has athleticism. Here, what should we really
Speaker 1: be looking for, listening for when it comes to these
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and how it's going to translate into success in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, a big arm is great, and it's
Speaker 1: it's sexy, and it's it's fun and it ooze and asia.
Speaker 1: But if you can't find the soft spot in the
Speaker 1: pocket and create space within the pocket while your eyes
Speaker 1: are downfield reading a defense, finding the open receiver, and
Speaker 1: then deliver the ball accurately under pressure, just as you're
Speaker 1: about to get hit right in the throat, nothing else matters.
Speaker 1: Big arm, tight spiral, all those things are all irrelevant.
Speaker 1: You've got to be able to deliver the ball on
Speaker 1: time while you're getting hit, and also have some savviness
Speaker 1: about you moving within the pocket. So I'm on, I
Speaker 1: do the same thing. I hear, Oh, he threw the
Speaker 1: ball seventy five yards, you know, off of one leg
Speaker 1: or you know some silly stats that's totally irrelevant. You
Speaker 1: got to be able to deliver the ball under pressure
Speaker 1: all game long, for sixteen games. And that's you know,
Speaker 1: one of the knocks maybe on TWA, is the injury history,
Speaker 1: and you look at all these injuries and all these
Speaker 1: little things keep creeping up. You know, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, if you're not able to play weekend,
Speaker 1: week out over the ball accurately, it doesn't matter how
Speaker 1: strong that is. Yeah. I start to look at two
Speaker 1: and I know everybody loves the way he throws the football,
Speaker 1: and they say he's a left handed Drew Brees, which
Speaker 1: is way too much praise for, you know, TWA, because
Speaker 1: he doesn't strike me. If he's six four, nobody's saying
Speaker 1: he reminds me of Drew Brees. It's he's six foot
Speaker 1: so therefore he's Drew Brees. I think I see more
Speaker 1: of you know, maybe Russell Wilson with that athleticism, he
Speaker 1: does get out of the pocket a little bit, but
Speaker 1: he does have great touch and appears to be able
Speaker 1: to have all the throws that you want. Aside from
Speaker 1: the injury issue, and granted that's a big issue, what
Speaker 1: concern or concerns would you have about two at the
Speaker 1: next level outside the injury issue. I really love everything
Speaker 1: you know. That injury issue is. It's so easy to
Speaker 1: sweep that same under the rug. Well, he's got a
Speaker 1: big injury issue, But X, Y and Z, No, it
Speaker 1: all starts with there. If you're having a difficult time
Speaker 1: stand healthy college, it really worries me that you're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to stay healthy for you know, thirty percent
Speaker 1: more games, forty percent more games and bigger, you know,
Speaker 1: more physical um guys hitting you and potentially injuring you.
Speaker 1: So I mean that that injury thing really is a
Speaker 1: is a big deal. But the other thing that kind
Speaker 1: of jumps out to you is when you watch this film,
Speaker 1: he's playing with NFL receivers, and not just NFL receivers,
Speaker 1: he's playing with first and second round picks, and you
Speaker 1: look at these receivers they have on that roster man.
Speaker 1: It'd be hard not to be productive at Alabama in
Speaker 1: that offense where you've got Henry Ruggs, Um, and you
Speaker 1: have some of the specers that they have on the outside.
Speaker 1: They have two or three guys the first or second
Speaker 1: round picks. Judy, Well, Jerry Judy can absolutely I mean,
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy's probably a top twenty pick. Um, And you
Speaker 1: could probably say the same thing about Henry Ruggs, So
Speaker 1: that that does concern me a bit. Would you take
Speaker 1: him if you're Miami, if you're you're there, you were done? No.
Speaker 1: The injury thing worries me. Okay, I love his game,
Speaker 1: I love his leadership. Right, there's so many things that
Speaker 1: you fall in love with him. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, one of the best abilities in the
Speaker 1: league is durability. And if you're not durable in college,
Speaker 1: it's just you. Rarely, you very rarely see guys that
Speaker 1: are that aren't durable guys in college and they get
Speaker 1: the NFL all of a sudden, they're they're healthy every week. Um.
Speaker 1: That that thing jumps out at me and worries me
Speaker 1: about to He's Carson Palmer, the former number one overall pick,
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Speaker 1: For me, football because I have a really difficult time
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Speaker 1: play football, if I can play football, if I can
Speaker 1: play football. And so finally we broke down three nights
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Speaker 1: football next year. So he's super into it. I'm super
Speaker 1: into it obviously, and yeah, trying to start. We've been
Speaker 1: training since the quarantine started and getting ready for the season.
Speaker 1: Hopefully that that gets here this fall. What advice did
Speaker 1: you give Joe Burrow? Uh, when when we've talked, we
Speaker 1: really had just talked about the process. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I said, one of the most important things is just
Speaker 1: you know, when a team gives you an offense and
Speaker 1: gives you protections, just digest it and be ready to
Speaker 1: spit it back. So really it was we've we've talked
Speaker 1: very briefly about preparing for the process, the combine, the draft,
Speaker 1: the pre draft workouts, the pre draft meetings, and really
Speaker 1: just you know, kind of gave him some insight on
Speaker 1: on you know, what it's like to go through, um,
Speaker 1: you know, and just kind of small tidbits. I'm getting
Speaker 1: ready for the draft. Would you rather have an all
Speaker 1: Pro wide receiver and all Pro linemen? All Pro linemen? Okay,
Speaker 1: because you start to see where we focus in on
Speaker 1: the skill positions. We always do that. Then every year
Speaker 1: you'll go, oh, you know, you drafted a tack or
Speaker 1: drafted a guard or he was a garden college. Now
Speaker 1: we're gonna make the center here. And we never talk
Speaker 1: about that because there's nothing sexy about that, but the
Speaker 1: importance of that, the offensive lineman and trying to find
Speaker 1: these lineman because the way college football is played is
Speaker 1: it's different for the lineman. And you know how far
Speaker 1: the spacing there, the blocking, the strata, you know all
Speaker 1: of those things, and it just feels like we get
Speaker 1: to the draft when we're like, all right, hurry up,
Speaker 1: let's get to another quarterback or wide receiver, running back.
Speaker 1: I don't care about lineman though. Did you ever get
Speaker 1: involved in the draft with the Bengals or any of
Speaker 1: the teams you played on, you know, to say, hey,
Speaker 1: I could certainly use another lineman. That was always the
Speaker 1: first the first words out of my mouth. We could
Speaker 1: always use another tackle, or another guard or another center.
Speaker 1: But they're not sexy. They're not they're not fun from
Speaker 1: a fan's perspective, that you took a guard from Villanova
Speaker 1: in the third round. I mean, that's just not that,
Speaker 1: doesn't you know, being a you know, a Cardinals fan,
Speaker 1: a Chiefs fan, a Raiders fan, whatever it is that
Speaker 1: doesn't jump off the screen. It at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, if you can't step into throws and you
Speaker 1: can't get to the top of your drop and get
Speaker 1: from your first read and your second read to your
Speaker 1: third read. As a quarterback, man, it doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: you took three first round receivers three years in a row.
Speaker 1: If you don't have the ability to get through the
Speaker 1: timing and rhythm of a play to get the ball
Speaker 1: to these exciting, sexy receivers that you drafted and fan
Speaker 1: bases go nuts for, then that guy that you draft
Speaker 1: in the first round at receivers irrelevant. I think every
Speaker 1: quarterback they it's fun to get a new toy outside,
Speaker 1: but man, it is a necessity to have guys that
Speaker 1: can hold up in front of you. And they are
Speaker 1: so hard to find and they're so hard to coach,
Speaker 1: and it just seems like these athletes get moved. If
Speaker 1: you if once you get over two hundred and fifty pounds,
Speaker 1: these great athletes get moved to defensive end, and these
Speaker 1: offensive linemen are having a block. I mean, you look
Speaker 1: at Dave and clowning today, clowning six to seven and
Speaker 1: he ran like four to four at two seventy five
Speaker 1: miles Garrett. I mean, some of these guys, they're getting
Speaker 1: so big and so physical, and you look at Chase Young,
Speaker 1: it's just hard to find a guy that can block
Speaker 1: him for four seconds. And it's a necessity. Every year
Speaker 1: there's more and more of these freak athletes coming out
Speaker 1: that put their hand the ground and get after the quarterback,
Speaker 1: and you've got to have people to block for them
Speaker 1: if you don't. If you don't have people to block
Speaker 1: for them, it doesn't matter how many first round picks
Speaker 1: you use on receivers and tight ends and these these
Speaker 1: fun like like we're saying, sexy toys outside to throw too.
Speaker 1: You know, if you can't get the ball to them,
Speaker 1: they become irrelevant. If Chase Young is considered the no
Speaker 1: brainer best player in the draft, why isn't he going
Speaker 1: number one? That's a great question. I think that's you know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when you're looking at
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, who's currently under contract for the Bengals, who
Speaker 1: is a really good player. I mean, he gets a
Speaker 1: knock um mainly because he played for the Bengals, but um,
Speaker 1: Andy Andy can play, and and Andy can. He may
Speaker 1: not be a number one pick and may not be
Speaker 1: that that guy off a draft board, but Andy's been extremely,
Speaker 1: extremely productive and and you've got a chance to get
Speaker 1: you know, a guy that can probably get after the
Speaker 1: quarterback fourteen to fifteen to sixteen times, like a Ron
Speaker 1: Miller type career at defensive end. That guy's hard to
Speaker 1: pass up. Um. And the other thing about Chase Young
Speaker 1: too is he's great in the run game. So because
Speaker 1: we don't know about Joe, I mean, Joe Burrow is
Speaker 1: not a given. As much as we want to say, boy,
Speaker 1: he's unbelievable. Okay, he had the greatest single season in
Speaker 1: college football history at that position. You know, I grant
Speaker 1: you that it's not a given. If Chase Young is
Speaker 1: a given, then that I don't know. Maybe I'm overrating
Speaker 1: Chase Young, but it feels like nobody wants to trade
Speaker 1: up to get Chase Young. But everybody keeps boy, he's
Speaker 1: a generational player, all right. I know you want to
Speaker 1: find your quarterback. But if I got a guy who
Speaker 1: can line up there and he can give me ten
Speaker 1: years of all pro status, and you would probably sign up.
Speaker 1: If I said, he can give you ten years as
Speaker 1: an All Pro or you roll the dice on Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: Who do you take? Man? I mean, that's that just
Speaker 1: shows you how important and the way that the league
Speaker 1: thinks about the quarterback position and just how important that
Speaker 1: position is, no doubt. I mean, you think back to
Speaker 1: the Mario Williams Reggie Bush draft and like oh six
Speaker 1: or oh seven whatever that was where Mario Williams went
Speaker 1: number one, and everybody could not believe that Reggie went
Speaker 1: number two. I know, Reggie's not a quarterback, but when
Speaker 1: when people were looking at that, they couldn't believe that
Speaker 1: that happened. But Mario Williams went out and got twelve
Speaker 1: to fourteen sacks just about every single year's career. That's
Speaker 1: what cha Chase Young is p acting not as what
Speaker 1: you expect at a Chase there. You're exactly right. There
Speaker 1: is a ton of unknown son. Joe he played one
Speaker 1: year college football. It is extremely risky, right, but you've
Speaker 1: got to have a quarterback, and that position is as
Speaker 1: we know it's it's the position you have to have.
Speaker 1: Every team that's that is a Super Bowl contender has
Speaker 1: a quarterback. So until you have that guy you're always
Speaker 1: you're always looking for him. Now, Andy Dalton still is
Speaker 1: under contract. Chase Youngs, you know, as you're saying, could
Speaker 1: be the best player in the draft, probably is the
Speaker 1: best player in the draft. I think it's a really
Speaker 1: difficult decision that they have to make. They have to
Speaker 1: either pass up on a guy that's a fourteen sack
Speaker 1: guy or go after a guy um that could be
Speaker 1: the future of your franchise and handle the quarterback position
Speaker 1: for the future of your franchise for the next ten
Speaker 1: to fifteen years. It's obviously a big decision and a
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Speaker 1: and uh, we'll move on. We still don't have a
Speaker 1: winner for Todd's scoreboard. Todd maybe drop a hint. Mario
Speaker 1: says that people are trying, but you can't get seven
Speaker 1: and forty. Are your numbers? Seven and forty? They're both
Speaker 1: related to this date in history. All right, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with oh I already mentioned the one earlier. Yes,
Speaker 1: and then I'll have to look at this day in
Speaker 1: sports history on forty. Now we don't we're not guessing, Paulie.
Speaker 1: I'll give you one NFL forty number. Okay, so seven
Speaker 1: and I got the seven. I don't have the forty.
Speaker 1: All right, Well you got a hint. You're a little
Speaker 1: bit of a hint there. Uh what is it? National
Speaker 1: Record Store Day? Okay? We went around the room saying
Speaker 1: if we could have one record all time, like album
Speaker 1: with the vinyl and the case on the sleeve, everything
Speaker 1: signed by the artist, artist or band went around the room,
Speaker 1: want to recap. Yeah, but you guys, I didn't understand it.
Speaker 1: I just thought, if you could get something signed by
Speaker 1: the Beatles and it's Abbey Road, that makes the most sense.
Speaker 1: Now you can say Elvis or you know, do they
Speaker 1: have Bach and Beethoven? Do they have albums? A box set?
Speaker 1: A box set? A box set? But you guys were picking,
Speaker 1: you know, Fritzie picked Hall and Oates. I'm not looking
Speaker 1: to make a Buckie. I wondered, what's meaningful to me?
Speaker 1: This is the way I okay, the experiment or the
Speaker 1: question was, well, I didn't know like, if it was
Speaker 1: my favorite band, then I would say led Zeppelin, but
Speaker 1: I thought it was if you could get one album
Speaker 1: cover all graphed by the band members, then I would
Speaker 1: take Abbey Road. Let's let's take out your favorites and
Speaker 1: you were just doing something iconic. Yeah, see, hey, you're
Speaker 1: doing it like it's a business transition. Yeah. Where you like,
Speaker 1: as soon as I get this, I can't wait to
Speaker 1: sell it again? Well, no, the investment would be that
Speaker 1: I have it. I don't want to sell it, but
Speaker 1: it'd be great to put it in the man cave.
Speaker 1: That's my thought process is always how would it look
Speaker 1: in the man cave? And I think that would be
Speaker 1: pretty cool if you go, oh, that's a abbey Road
Speaker 1: and you got all the Beatles there instead of hey
Speaker 1: you got an autograph from Toad the wet Sprocket. I
Speaker 1: mean it's just not the same. Yeah, Paul, I went
Speaker 1: with Purple Rain by Prince. I'm guessing he's a kind
Speaker 1: of guy wouldn't do a lot of autographs, and you don't.
Speaker 1: Most people don't get to meet. That's why I threw
Speaker 1: them him up there. And aren't they having or did
Speaker 1: they do something last night? Wasn't a celebration. It's a
Speaker 1: fourth anniversary of prince passing. Okay, Yeah, I could see
Speaker 1: the Purple One doing that. Anybody else just want to
Speaker 1: change theirs? McLevin. So I went Velvet Underground, predictable. I
Speaker 1: just looked at a list. It's about the seventh or
Speaker 1: eighth most valuable album memorabilia wise, with the White Album
Speaker 1: actually being number one, not Abbey Road by being autographed,
Speaker 1: just the most valuable vinyl record to own. Like the
Speaker 1: Beatles are like two of the top ten, with White
Speaker 1: Album and Abbey Road. Velvet Underground. It's really high up
Speaker 1: there too. And I had a lot of Rolling Stones.
Speaker 1: I had had those albums, all those albums. No, I
Speaker 1: had fifteen hundred albums I had. I had all of
Speaker 1: the Stones, I had Beatles, Zeppelin, who Bowie, all of
Speaker 1: those damned things. And I was in a small apartment
Speaker 1: with my my wife, and you know, I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: let me get this out of here, let me let
Speaker 1: me you know, love, that's damn it, love, damn you love.
Speaker 1: If I was in like and not love, I'd still
Speaker 1: have those albums and I'll be married. But yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a bummer. Yeah, mcclub. There's one version of the white
Speaker 1: album that went for eight hundred thousand. But don't worry
Speaker 1: about it. You're fine. I probably didn't have I had
Speaker 1: collector's items, the doors. I had picture disc, Electric Light Orchestra.
Speaker 1: They had color vinyl, red and blue, like I had
Speaker 1: Elvis Costello, my Funny Valentine in red. Uh. I just
Speaker 1: picked up Damn the Torpedoes by Tom Petty and Heartbreakers
Speaker 1: a couple months ago, eleven bucks. It was like stealing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't steal it. Yeah. I still get some vinyl,
Speaker 1: some you know, record people send it in. Maybe they
Speaker 1: feel sorry for me because I sold all of those
Speaker 1: albums for three hundred dollars. Just I had pictured disc.
Speaker 1: I remember a Molly Hatchet pictured. I got just all
Speaker 1: this stuff there. But look, I'm over it, you know
Speaker 1: I did. I made the right decision that that gave
Speaker 1: me more room to spread love. You know. By getting
Speaker 1: rid of all those albums, I had more room to
Speaker 1: be myself. Did you just say Molly Hatchett picture disc? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think so. Oh yeah I did. Yeah, flirting with disaster.
Speaker 1: Charlie Daniels mant the hoop hoop. Yeah, all the Young
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