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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson, and we're talking

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Speaker 1: today Monday about what Kevin Colbert had to say. And man,

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Speaker 1: I thought one thing that um that he talked about today,

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Speaker 1: which is completely outside the norm for Kevin Colbert, is

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Speaker 1: actually talking about free agency acquisitions. No uh, as as

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Speaker 1: as Kevin said, uh, he said, look, we got we

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Speaker 1: got more cap space going into this year and he

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Speaker 1: stopped from week as well. So I can never remember

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Speaker 1: having uh kind of man. Yeah, So typically we're up

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Speaker 1: against it and you know, trying to create space and

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Speaker 1: and you know, so they're going to have over the

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Speaker 1: next three days Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday or this week,

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Speaker 1: they'll come together as a staff, the coaching staff, the scouts,

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Speaker 1: all the all the front office people, and they'll talk

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Speaker 1: about free agency. They'll rank the guys who are going

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Speaker 1: to potentially be available from other teams, and they'll rank

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Speaker 1: their other their own guys and kind of fit those

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Speaker 1: all together to see how that hierarchy fits. Who where

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Speaker 1: did their guys fit into the into the overall equation

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Speaker 1: and then that that helps determine, you know who who

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Speaker 1: you're resigning out of the group, because you don't just

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Speaker 1: look at this in a vacuum some kind of board

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Speaker 1: that's more like an outline, I think than a um

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Speaker 1: a strict path. You know, the things happen quick. And

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Speaker 1: it's not like I know, I'm picking at twenty and

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Speaker 1: I only need to know twenty names because nineteen are

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Speaker 1: gonna fall before me, you know, so that they handled

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Speaker 1: it a little differently. But you're right. I mean you judge, well,

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Speaker 1: I like Godwin better than Juju, but I like Juju

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Speaker 1: better than this slot guy, or you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: You incorporate your own in that for sure. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you also have to look at that in regard to okay,

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Speaker 1: how does this how does this fit? What do we

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Speaker 1: think these guys are going to get paid in terms

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Speaker 1: of okay, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this guy's gonna get

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Speaker 1: we think this guy's gonna get fifteen million a year. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna be in that shopping in that neighborhood. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know that's what's nice about it. I Mean, you

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Speaker 1: and I talk a lot of fantasy, So it's kind

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Speaker 1: of like an auction draft, Like I'll pay forty bucks

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Speaker 1: out of my hundred dollars for Christian McCaffrey, but I

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Speaker 1: won't pay forty one, you know. Yeah, yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: know I don't have a pick at six. And then

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Speaker 1: it comes around the snake and in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the second round, I'm gonna have this guy. You know.

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Speaker 1: So I got X amount of dollars to spend and

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Speaker 1: the X amounts go into guards. And that's what's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe that's a conversation we should have, is

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Speaker 1: what pieces of your pie would you put where? You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? Right? Yeah? The names and I

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Speaker 1: know we have a lot of names that we want

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Speaker 1: to talk about to it at some point. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: just think that, you know, it's it's it's fun for

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Speaker 1: ends to look at it. And Culbert said today because look,

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Speaker 1: I you know, we we haven't been a big opening

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Speaker 1: day buyer or opening sure you know buyer since I've

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Speaker 1: been here because they they've never had the couch space.

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Speaker 1: He says, I don't expect that to change. We're not

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Speaker 1: going to jump in free agency. That the quote unquote

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Speaker 1: legal tampering period starts March fourteen, and runs right up

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Speaker 1: until uh four o'clock on March sixteenth, when free agency

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Speaker 1: actually begins. I don't know that you're going to hear

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Speaker 1: a bunch of announcements that that the Steelers have signed

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Speaker 1: these three players uh in the opening salvo of a

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Speaker 1: free agency, and they're going to be this three at

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Speaker 1: the top, the highest paid guys at their position. Rum.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just because they have the money doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: they're going to take that approach. It's not gonna burn

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Speaker 1: a hole in their pocket. Of No, it's talking to

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Speaker 1: a hole in their pocket. And this isn't even a

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Speaker 1: Steeler note. I just think it's an NFL note that

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Speaker 1: a great number of mistakes are made in that first

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Speaker 1: day or two without a dollar you can there's such

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Speaker 1: a history. Boy, that was a bad signing. They cut

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Speaker 1: them two years later. That's how you end up with

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Speaker 1: Nate's soldier as you're as you're starting left tackle a

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Speaker 1: pulling him out as an example. There's a million examples,

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Speaker 1: you know, like all these teams just trying to make

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Speaker 1: a big splash, and I get the fan base excited

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Speaker 1: and then they're cutting them in two years. That's how

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Speaker 1: the Browns win the off season every year, right, right, Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: You know, doesn't necessarily add up to actual winds um,

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Speaker 1: viewed the last offseason, and I thought this answer is interesting.

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Speaker 1: He said, did did you He's actually asked him stand

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Speaker 1: savereign estimates? I believe about did you start your rebuilding

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Speaker 1: actually last year? Said I know you don't like to

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Speaker 1: use the word rebuilding, but did this actually start last year?

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Speaker 1: He said, Really, at this point last year, a lot

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Speaker 1: of things had happened. We knew last year's free agency

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Speaker 1: class was big for them, and we had a lot

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Speaker 1: of unique good players coming to the end of their contracts.

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Speaker 1: And then we got hit with the reduced salary cap

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Speaker 1: that really pushed us up against the wall. Then Marquise

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Speaker 1: decided to step aside as well. Uh, and then we

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Speaker 1: who were understricted free agents, and we didn't know what

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Speaker 1: a tough situation with our lines, so we tried to

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Speaker 1: do what we could from a free agent standpoint, which

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Speaker 1: was limited until later in the game when some things

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Speaker 1: fell into place with reduced contracts in different ways to

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Speaker 1: structure them and make them affordable. Um. He goes on

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Speaker 1: to say that, uh, you know, if if I had

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Speaker 1: any regrets, it's probably not adding another veteran and affordable

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Speaker 1: veteran that could have eased the growth on the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe they would have and more. And you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe instead of going out and spending you know,

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Speaker 1: four million dollars on Melvin Ingram, maybe you go get

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Speaker 1: another offense of aligneman, serviceable guy that's better than coward

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Speaker 1: or even better than Hague. You know, I mean, a

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Speaker 1: you know, he said, he said. Other than that, she said,

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Speaker 1: the Running Game, which we did with Nagy and of

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Speaker 1: course pet Friarmouth. I think will help us as a

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Speaker 1: tight end even more than in the future than he

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Speaker 1: did last year. So I never go into with the

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Speaker 1: plan of a rebuild. ARTS emphasis every year is that

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Speaker 1: they should have taken uh, you know, the center from

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Speaker 1: Oh he might be. Yeah, that that argument bothers me

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Speaker 1: a little bit because I love Creed Humphrey. In a

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Speaker 1: He wasn't a slam dunk, like, Oh, that guy's really

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Speaker 1: like he's the best center in this in this draft aft, No, right,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't work. That work. Doesn't work that way, folks. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: it'd be great to have all three, it just doesn't

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Speaker 1: may be what you've brought up several times, you know,

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Speaker 1: the pain a little bit. I think, you know, they

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Speaker 1: go into they still like Kendrick Green, they think they

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Speaker 1: think Kendrick Green has a future in the league. But

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Speaker 1: you cover your butt with this and you you maybe

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Speaker 1: you go sign It's not gonna be uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: one of the top center prospects in the in free agency.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna go pay you know, ten million dollars

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Speaker 1: a year for Ben Jones, Ryan Jensen or Ryan Jensen.

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Speaker 1: But if you bring in a starter, capable guy who's

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Speaker 1: it can be your can be your swing guy on

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Speaker 1: game days. Again, as you said last week, I let

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Speaker 1: you put it, well, a better version of B. J. Finney. Yeah, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: if you bring but he helps your line. Of course,

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Speaker 1: he's active every game day. He probably starts a lot

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Speaker 1: that I'm still a believer that I might get what

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Speaker 1: chooks and I would draft one. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: you're never You're gonna overpay it. You're gonna overpay every

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Speaker 1: time you overpay. It's just that makes no sense if

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Speaker 1: Brandon Shraft. I mean, if it's Connor Williams or James Daniels.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they don't exactly qualify as big ticket items,

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Speaker 1: That's where I'm spending free agency money is on a

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Speaker 1: top three rounds. Well, here's the difference. Okay, so that

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Speaker 1: the top offensive tackle available, uh, would probably be be

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Speaker 1: Trent Brown from the Patriots. Yeah, it's probably. It's so

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Speaker 1: his value on spot track for a twenty nine year

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Speaker 1: play on the left side, but that's not ideal. But

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Speaker 1: he's gonna turn twenty nine soon, so they're estimating his

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Speaker 1: value is at ten and a half million dollars a year. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And because he'll he'll get twelve or thirteen per year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: everybody needs one. I mean Toron Arms said, is gonna

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Speaker 1: be the highest paid tackle, But you know, I mean

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Speaker 1: Orlando Brown. But but still I mean Morgan Moses, I

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Speaker 1: more than they should that much, I know. Yeah. Whereas

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Speaker 1: spot track estimates the market value for James Daniel, who's

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Speaker 1: old line conversation. If you could go into camp with

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Speaker 1: and it could be the difference between it's a bad example.

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Speaker 1: But um, instead of and instead now that you don't

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Speaker 1: spend six million on, you get Godwin instead of Juju.

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Speaker 1: It's again that's a really bad example. But I mean

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Speaker 1: instead of bringing Hayden back, you landed, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: a younger version of him that's a little more expensive,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he's using the resources

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Speaker 1: be in the j C. Jackson conversation. No, no, and

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Speaker 1: then they're not gonna be the Godwin conversation either, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean somebody brought somebody brought j C. Jackson up

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Speaker 1: to me, and I'm like, you realize that j C.

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Speaker 1: Jackson is looking at making twenty plus million next year.

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Speaker 1: That's what you know now. I will say this and

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Speaker 1: I wrote this over the weekend on d K Pittsburgh Sports.

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Speaker 1: Getting back to the Brian Flores edition. Um, I think

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Speaker 1: I think that the addition of Brian Floores agreed created

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Speaker 1: you know what. I saw this a lot on social

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Speaker 1: you know, added this guy who's obviously a talented young

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Speaker 1: a long way. It has to. I mean, like, I

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Speaker 1: like I'm team building blah blah blah. But you can't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's many players in the league

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Speaker 1: players about what what coach would you want to play for,

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin is always in the top two or three.

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Speaker 1: M hm. They they just never just never have the

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Speaker 1: great that you guys want to come here, but we

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Speaker 1: don't pay money for you. Sorry. You know, now they

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Speaker 1: also hesitated to bring up. But but since we brought

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Speaker 1: been asked us a million times already. I want to

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Speaker 1: Shawn Watson. I mean, the guy I see between the

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Speaker 1: lines on Sunday. It is is that off the table

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Speaker 1: for the Steelers or more on the table now after

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Speaker 1: this tiring I don't think it is because he's like

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Speaker 1: the most difficult player to talk about in the league

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Speaker 1: right now, I mean, because none of us know the answer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we just don't know what's going to happen. Right, But

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Speaker 1: could the former head coach say to the Steeler's head coach, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I got a relationship with Watson and I loved them

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to bring him in. I think you

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Speaker 1: should consider it. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: just throwing it out there. I don't think the Watson's

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Speaker 1: will be a stealer of folks, No, I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't think so either. But um, that doesn't mean some

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Speaker 1: other guys that Brian Flores has had in the past,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have influence, right, dolphin guys that get cut

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Speaker 1: or whatever. Right, Yeah, right, so it's gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 1: We'll continue to watch it. Yeah, Um, but we're gonna

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Speaker 1: take well, I guess we're not taking a wrapping up.

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Speaker 1: We're finishing the show. It's over, dude, it's over. Turn

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Speaker 1: out the lights. You're still you're still here. It's over. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For my partner Matt Williamson, I'm Dale Lolly. We thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening to this edition of the Drive on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio.