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Speaker 1: I played Darryl Philbin on The Office. Hello everybody, and
Speaker 1: welcome back to a brand new episode of the Office
Speaker 1: Deep Dive, this time with the hardest working man in showbiz. Nope,
Speaker 1: not our guest, me your host Brian bung Werner. Just kidding.
Speaker 1: You'll get that after you listen to the episode. Uh Today,
Speaker 1: as you just heard, I'm bringing on possibly the most
Speaker 1: ambitious and certainly the most competent employee at dunder Mifflin.
Speaker 1: That's right, the voice of reason in all of the insanity,
Speaker 1: the incredible Craig Robinson. Like so many of the characters
Speaker 1: on The Office, a lot of the inspiration, as you'll
Speaker 1: hear for Darryl Philbin came from Craig's real personality. He
Speaker 1: is an incredible musician and a hilarious comedian. Greg Daniels
Speaker 1: actually discovered him by seeing him perform perhaps one of
Speaker 1: the greatest comedy songs of all time, Somebody's Working, Mi Lady. Now.
Speaker 1: Despite the name, and despite the fact that Craig admits
Speaker 1: to singing his way into booty calls. He insists that
Speaker 1: his act is a great place to take a date,
Speaker 1: and I agree, I highly recommended. Craig is amazing. In
Speaker 1: addition to his work on the Office, he's gone on
Speaker 1: to work on many other amazing projects, from Brooklyn nine
Speaker 1: nine to Hot Tub Time Sheen to Cleveland Show and
Speaker 1: American Dad. I know you've all been waiting to hear
Speaker 1: from him, and I am so excited that today is
Speaker 1: finally the day, even though he didn't teach me any
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Speaker 1: ready to be overtaken with your love for the show.
Speaker 1: But for now, the time has come to welcome our
Speaker 1: very own warehouse foreman and my good friend, Craig Robinson. Bubble,
Speaker 1: I love it, Bubble, Bubble and squeaker cooking every more
Speaker 1: left over from the nabople What's what's up? How you
Speaker 1: doing so? I mean, I'm good. It's been so long
Speaker 1: since I saw you? How long? I mean a couple
Speaker 1: of years. It's been a few what's new in your life?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm doing this right now. I'm on the
Speaker 1: road a lot you. Oh yeah, yeah, what's this thing on? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's probably on. We start already. We'll not really tell
Speaker 1: the truth, man, I mean it's it's recording, but I'm
Speaker 1: just interested in stay. What's up? Okay? Um? Check check
Speaker 1: check check? Are you checking your sound? Yeah? Are you
Speaker 1: a sound expert? Well, you're a musician, so yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean I don't know if it's going louder or something there.
Speaker 1: Did I ever tell you the story? This is before
Speaker 1: I think we had done the pilot only and I
Speaker 1: hadn't been in l a very long. Did I ever
Speaker 1: tell you going the Mbar story? For real? I went
Speaker 1: to the Mbar and they used to do like an
Speaker 1: open mic night, and somebody was like, oh, go to
Speaker 1: the m Bar. I think I knew somebody who was
Speaker 1: like a server there, and I remember it was David
Speaker 1: Cross was there, and Sarah Silverman some other people and
Speaker 1: you you were so far in away the funniest thing
Speaker 1: that night. Well, you had a guy with h I
Speaker 1: think me and Jerry did. Yeah. Yeah. How many shows
Speaker 1: you do a year? I mean how many cities? Oh shows,
Speaker 1: shows are like, you know, five sometimes seven a weekend,
Speaker 1: so I probably do third Are you thirty plus weeks?
Speaker 1: Are you? Jesus if I'm not feeling myself? So you're
Speaker 1: the hardest working manag show business. Not not by a
Speaker 1: long show. Um, okay, So rewind back like two thousand
Speaker 1: three four? What were you doing before the office came on?
Speaker 1: H stand up? Doing much stand up? And you know,
Speaker 1: I had some parts here and there. Um did a
Speaker 1: show called Lucky. I was on FX and then uh,
Speaker 1: great show, thank you Commy. Yeah that was that was
Speaker 1: lightning in a bottle right there, man. And then yeah
Speaker 1: it was two thousand one we started four yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah, so Lucky and then about to stand up.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Did you do Second City? Yeah? Chicago? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did the training sent I didn't do the Okay,
Speaker 1: I just did it, went through all the classes. Okay. Um,
Speaker 1: you incorporate music a lot into your stand up. Do
Speaker 1: you think that Darryl being a musician on the show,
Speaker 1: did that come from you. Do you think the writers
Speaker 1: wrote that? Yeah, they they we were like a towel
Speaker 1: being rung up. They got whatever. But whatever they knew
Speaker 1: we could do, they got it out of this right. Absolutely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you started pretty early. I mean I remember that Christmas
Speaker 1: episode you and I think we were djaying in the
Speaker 1: corner and then gradually you started. Yeah, we had like,
Speaker 1: uh what do you call those little balls that with
Speaker 1: the lights and UHC disco ball? Obviously, I mean for
Speaker 1: people who don't know, music comes very easy to you. Yes,
Speaker 1: I have seen people hum you tunes and you start playing, well,
Speaker 1: yeah trained here Is it trained or is it natural?
Speaker 1: I mean both. You have to sit down and like,
Speaker 1: like there's time I was sitting, like, play a song
Speaker 1: and let's breakdown note for no, each chord, rewind it
Speaker 1: to play again. We want to play it again until
Speaker 1: I get and go through the whole song and it.
Speaker 1: Once you do that, you know, sometimes you start you know,
Speaker 1: see patterns and you know, see what's going on in
Speaker 1: the song. So that's how you learned. Do you read music? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but how you do not? Like I can hear me.
Speaker 1: It takes me a while to read some music, but
Speaker 1: I can hear pretty good. You hear better than anyone
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Okay, no, I'm just saying I'm trying.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but but you trained yourself to do that.
Speaker 1: I think people think about it as being sort of
Speaker 1: a natural gift, but no, it's definitely a gift. But
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's a gift. You have to
Speaker 1: work for it. It's like you you gotta know you
Speaker 1: have the talent to do it, and then just developed
Speaker 1: that right. I remember later on they kept pairing me
Speaker 1: with you and Ed Helms in musical situations, the z
Speaker 1: Kevin and the Zitz. There was Kevin and the Zitz,
Speaker 1: and I remember we would you know, we never had
Speaker 1: time to read the episodes before we did them, and
Speaker 1: we would read the episodes and they would be like song, song, song,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you knew this. I would
Speaker 1: go to them and I would be like, okay, when
Speaker 1: is rehearsals? When is rehearsals? And then I would come
Speaker 1: to you and I'd be like all right, you guys,
Speaker 1: can we and you'd be like yeah, yeah, no, we're good,
Speaker 1: We're good, and Ed be the same way, like as like, no,
Speaker 1: that's fine, no, I got it, and I was like, no, no, no, guys,
Speaker 1: I don't have it. I don't know what the hell
Speaker 1: I'm doing. Um there's a quote that has been attributed
Speaker 1: to you, which that you basically started doing music because
Speaker 1: it's there were so many funny people in Chicago that
Speaker 1: you wanted to do something that was different. And what
Speaker 1: is that true? Not exactly? Um, I just you know,
Speaker 1: it's my thing. And I had the song that I
Speaker 1: did in college that transferred over to the stage. I
Speaker 1: would be like, play, you know, piano the same I'm
Speaker 1: singing to a girl on the phone, you know, singing
Speaker 1: a nice and like talking to a singing to a
Speaker 1: little bit. You know, it's romantic, and I hit up
Speaker 1: with it. Can I had some booty right, and then
Speaker 1: I was like, okay him, listen to see if she's laughing.
Speaker 1: And watched it so she's laughing. Okay, we're good. But
Speaker 1: so then I did that, like I don't know, some
Speaker 1: open mic kind of thing. But it wasn't the open mic.
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, actors in the room on
Speaker 1: a Friday night, like you know, and then you just
Speaker 1: did what you do. So they want to start doing comedy.
Speaker 1: I went up and did this show, and uh, it
Speaker 1: didn't go too well. Let's just think I'll heckless heaven.
Speaker 1: It's in Chicago, and you get eight minutes to perform
Speaker 1: the first three minutes, nobody gets the mess with you.
Speaker 1: From the third minute on if people wanted to hecker you.
Speaker 1: There are three people in the audience who have rubber chickens.
Speaker 1: If you've got all three rubber chickens, you had to
Speaker 1: get off stage. And then, uh, three people have score cards.
Speaker 1: So I got two rubber chickens the first night and
Speaker 1: before I get to there like I'm not getting a
Speaker 1: third chicken, It's good night. Then the next week I
Speaker 1: came back with my keyboard. That's all she wrote. You
Speaker 1: did the song that ends with your buddy getting the phone. Um,
Speaker 1: somebody's sucking my lady. Somebody's sucking my lady. Yeah, somebody's Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's that's what you saw. That's what I saw at mbark.
Speaker 1: That's what got me like. They got me in front
Speaker 1: of Apple Town to get me in front of Greg Daniels. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When I did my audition for the Office, Great Games
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Speaker 1: audition like, Oh, what like it seems like a big
Speaker 1: vote of confidence, right, I'm thinking like, oh man, it's
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Speaker 1: Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you
Speaker 1: do Lucky? And then you're doing stand up? And then
Speaker 1: how did you did you know about the office before
Speaker 1: you came on? Saul the British pilot on an airplane, okay,
Speaker 1: And I was dying right, and I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I wish I could find that, you know. And one
Speaker 1: day I was like drumming past seven eleven and I
Speaker 1: saw the picture David Brent. Now that's that's the dude
Speaker 1: from this show, you know. And then I end up
Speaker 1: getting the audition. No, I didn't know much about except
Speaker 1: for that pilot. And when you got the audition was
Speaker 1: did you think it was just for one episode or
Speaker 1: were they saying like you may come around. No, it
Speaker 1: was just I mean it was it was the first season,
Speaker 1: so you didn't even know, you know, what was going on.
Speaker 1: So I just came in, did the did the audition,
Speaker 1: and they called me later after y'all get well on
Speaker 1: the way, I was established an episode for Yeah, And
Speaker 1: did you know Allison Jones before that? I don't know
Speaker 1: if I worked with Alison. I'm not before that. No,
Speaker 1: you know what let missing? I think I had gotten
Speaker 1: forty yeo, I'm sorry, knocked up? How did I do that?
Speaker 1: Everybody does that to me? Fort Your Virgin? Like, no,
Speaker 1: it's knocked up, knocked up and I just messed it up.
Speaker 1: I got auditioned for Fortio Virgin, but I didn't get that,
Speaker 1: but I did get knocked up, So I'm not sure
Speaker 1: exactly what you want happen right right right? But did
Speaker 1: you know that it was had the possibility to to
Speaker 1: recur at that point or zero idea of just doing
Speaker 1: a job, right, What was different for you or was
Speaker 1: there anything different for you in terms of the way
Speaker 1: that the show was shot. Yeah, that was that was
Speaker 1: way different. Like everything else was like a movie was
Speaker 1: you know, the two cameras doing a thing, but nobody
Speaker 1: was swinging cameras around. Right. I feel like Darryl, you know,
Speaker 1: even from the beginning, had kind of a gem thing
Speaker 1: with the camera, like it felt like you were on
Speaker 1: the same page, Like you would do the looks to
Speaker 1: the camera like did you just see that idiot. I
Speaker 1: don't get a lot of camera looks untill later, but
Speaker 1: people do say, yeah, see me as a voice of
Speaker 1: reason and in all the insanity. Yeah, Ben Silverman says
Speaker 1: that you're the smartest person who worked a Dunner Mifflin. Well, no,
Speaker 1: not you, but Darryl right right, right right, I can
Speaker 1: see that. Yeah, Daryl was just trying to you know,
Speaker 1: be honest, make an honest buck, and I couldn't believe
Speaker 1: a lot of things that I was going around him.
Speaker 1: And you know, he knew he had to keep the
Speaker 1: peace and knew he had to uh keep his job.
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't think he has worked out
Speaker 1: smart in these cats. He just was, you know, just
Speaker 1: like would you believe these cats? You know, but it
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, they showed a lot that the
Speaker 1: warehouse maybe was run more efficiently than the regular office.
Speaker 1: Like you were well, you were good. Yeah. Um. Darryl's
Speaker 1: relationship with Michael in the show, it was a very
Speaker 1: like he kept coming to you for advice, particularly on
Speaker 1: black culture. It was a very very funny dynamic. What
Speaker 1: was your experience working with Steve? He's the greatest. The
Speaker 1: way he could turn it comedy button off and on
Speaker 1: like a falsett. It was just genius to me. Whenever
Speaker 1: I had a scene with him on it, and I
Speaker 1: was like, titilation was holy, you know, very exciting. And
Speaker 1: I learned from him, stole from him all of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny that you said you said that, because I
Speaker 1: thought you were going to say something else, which I
Speaker 1: think is also true. Is part of his genius is
Speaker 1: how he turns so quick even within a scene, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like he is he is fighting
Speaker 1: down one path and something may happen and he just
Speaker 1: turns it like that and he's like, you know, ultimate
Speaker 1: scene part of two. He listens and acts two. You
Speaker 1: know what's going on? Like, we had a scene I
Speaker 1: didn't even really notice until it aired. It was a negotiation.
Speaker 1: It might be my favorite episode just because of the
Speaker 1: work I did with Steve and being able to play
Speaker 1: with him like that. It was a scene where he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to speak first, like decline to speak first.
Speaker 1: So we did a couple of takes and it was fine. Uh,
Speaker 1: And then he did his next take and he's making
Speaker 1: these faces and if you look closely, you could see
Speaker 1: Meet started crack a smile on that. But it was
Speaker 1: just like, without even speaking, he could, you know, pull
Speaker 1: us out of you. The laughter is like, oh, he's
Speaker 1: about to get me. But also in that episode when
Speaker 1: I was saying, uh, where he listens and you know,
Speaker 1: like the perfect improvisation partner, You're listening and take it
Speaker 1: to the next level. So we's talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: getting a raise from Jane. I said, make it happen, Captain,
Speaker 1: he said, I will, Sergeant God game amazing. Do you
Speaker 1: think that your relationship with him evolved throughout the show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think everybody's everybody evolved in this show. Everybody
Speaker 1: I went through character development. Um, you know, that's one
Speaker 1: of the things that makes it what it is. People
Speaker 1: got to know these people, right. But yeah, I think
Speaker 1: every every situation evolved to something. I mean, you started
Speaker 1: out and your episodes were mainly about like the office
Speaker 1: versus the warehouse, whether directly in basketball or like a
Speaker 1: weird class thing where you have like the white collar
Speaker 1: and the blue collar. Talk to me about the transition
Speaker 1: for you character wise or as an actor of you
Speaker 1: finally coming up and being a regular part of like
Speaker 1: the bullpen characterized. Um, it felt like like it did
Speaker 1: in real life, like oh many and making you a
Speaker 1: regular you know what I'm saying. So definitely a move
Speaker 1: on up for Craig, INFI, Darryl, you know. And it
Speaker 1: was like more responsibility. And Rain used to say I
Speaker 1: had the sweetest schedule in Hollywood because I would come
Speaker 1: in for like an episode here and then four weeks
Speaker 1: later come in to the Christmas episode. But yeah, character wiz,
Speaker 1: it was it was like, yeah, step up and okay,
Speaker 1: let's starting to see you know, starting to feel me.
Speaker 1: And for Craig myself, it was like, hey, this is
Speaker 1: this is awesome, Like because I didn't understand like I
Speaker 1: thought we were a year to year like every other show.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't know, you don't know, But it
Speaker 1: was something about the offered, like like I remember one
Speaker 1: one year and they were like many was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be dating, and it didn't happen for a year,
Speaker 1: and I kind of forget about. In the next year
Speaker 1: we were dating. I was like, Oh, that's that's interesting.
Speaker 1: How don't know we're gonna be picked up? You know,
Speaker 1: I guess you don't know what you do that kind
Speaker 1: of I wasn't, you know, none of those conversations. So
Speaker 1: one of the people that I've talked to is uh
Speaker 1: TV critic, and she talked about The Office. One of
Speaker 1: the things that was notable about it was that it
Speaker 1: was She defined it as casually diverse. Do you feel
Speaker 1: like the Office in terms of race or your experience?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like it it did something right or
Speaker 1: wrong in terms of that it presented us as people?
Speaker 1: And now all right with me, I don't notice right
Speaker 1: or wrong. I think casually diverse is a great way
Speaker 1: to put it. But it just, you know, we would
Speaker 1: regularly it would look like a real office. We weren't like,
Speaker 1: you know, models walking around. It was so proper dialogue.
Speaker 1: This was like, just Okay, these are people someone probably
Speaker 1: have some mentally know problems that they need to take
Speaker 1: care of, right there, unleashed on society and it's fine.
Speaker 1: Do you think the show did anything in terms of
Speaker 1: a positive message in terms of diversity or race? I
Speaker 1: mean you were nominated for three and double A CP Awards,
Speaker 1: correct lost a three though, Nick Cannon, Ice Cube and
Speaker 1: somebody else. But um, I mean people from all walks
Speaker 1: of life love the Office, So I I wish I
Speaker 1: could speak to that specifically somebody you know, and somebody
Speaker 1: would be like, you know what, I had a problem
Speaker 1: back people, But it's just that show. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know, right, I just don't know that answer. You
Speaker 1: know what's funny? This is kind of side note. Someone
Speaker 1: pointed this out that in Christmas Party we were talking
Speaker 1: about before season two, Michael tells Darryl that he can't
Speaker 1: wear a Santa hat, and eight years later Megan Kelly
Speaker 1: there was a controversy was started by Santa Claus White kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like he was before anyone ever knew who Meg and
Speaker 1: Kelly was. He was making a joke out of what
Speaker 1: she would say in the future calling America. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: do you do that in your comedy race? Yeah? Stuff,
Speaker 1: We're just about America. No, not really, No, I have
Speaker 1: a date x my acting mostly for like lovers. It's
Speaker 1: a great date night. I mean it's for everybody, but
Speaker 1: it's a couples get. I don't know, a boost out
Speaker 1: of it, a boot, like a sexual boost, something you give,
Speaker 1: a sexual boost, something that gally happens. I'm definitely about
Speaker 1: the you know, the relationship. But interesting, I wonder what
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Speaker 1: interviews to be the new manager. Did you want that job? Why?
Speaker 1: I just didn't, And they would talking about me being it,
Speaker 1: and I was, And when time I went up to Paul,
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, man, just uh, you know, just put
Speaker 1: that in your pocket game of dollar, like you're thinking
Speaker 1: about the managed, But I was. No. I did not
Speaker 1: want to be managing. I thought that was interesting that
Speaker 1: my name got brought up and it was cool and
Speaker 1: and you know, I thought about it, but that would
Speaker 1: be like and all that, But no, it seemed like
Speaker 1: it looked like a lot of work, way different than
Speaker 1: rain talking about your schedule coming In one episode four yeah,
Speaker 1: but the path to that, Oh, it was amazing. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's gonna Cassy Bates and Will Ferrell, Will James James Spader.
Speaker 1: I looked back at some of those episodes like, that's right,
Speaker 1: that actually happened, Spade. It was incredible, man, God damn. Yeah.
Speaker 1: How was it like working with you know once Eve laughed?
Speaker 1: Working with those guys. I mean, these are legends coming
Speaker 1: in and you just like hanging out. You no battle trailer,
Speaker 1: what's up? Catherine Tate? Catherine Tate, who I don't know
Speaker 1: anything about Melanan That's that's my homies still to this day,
Speaker 1: she's the best Spader. How is working with Spader different
Speaker 1: than Steve Well, I mean, you know Spader, he's how
Speaker 1: do you describe the guy? He's his own world, he's
Speaker 1: his own I don't know. It was cool. It was
Speaker 1: real cool. He was, you know, chatty and you know,
Speaker 1: say what's up and it's smoothed with it, but you
Speaker 1: know he's got that weird, creepy funny and Steve was
Speaker 1: just like a falsetto just whatever you needed. And then
Speaker 1: Spade of Dight, they wrote to him beautifully. Yeah. He
Speaker 1: It was just interesting how they just approached it in
Speaker 1: a totally opposite way from like really wanting a crafted
Speaker 1: acting performance to way more sort of improv fass Ale. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you were talking before about the leading up to Darryl
Speaker 1: becoming the manager and getting to work with all of
Speaker 1: those people. I mean that was that was a huge
Speaker 1: storyline for you. I mean, and then eventually you going
Speaker 1: off and working with Jim. Do you think today Darryl
Speaker 1: would still be working with Jim at the Athlete Athlete
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, they be at all no dope
Speaker 1: games and killing it hecky yeah. I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 1: he would have found another way to rise on his point,
Speaker 1: but uh, maybe he was in his own company. Who
Speaker 1: knows Daryl was ambitious? Yeah. Uh again going back to
Speaker 1: Ben's talking about Darryl being the smartest person in the office,
Speaker 1: but he was overlooked a lot. I sort of like,
Speaker 1: you know, like Kevin was overlooked um in the basketball episode,
Speaker 1: like where I was like, oh, yeah, of course that
Speaker 1: guy can't play, and then you know you exactly, Daryl,
Speaker 1: You really are an athletes, really, I am. I mean
Speaker 1: we got a soft ball killed, bro, you killed Oh
Speaker 1: I forgot about that. The beasts stuff We're like, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: don't make me run that fast. That's all. Hit it
Speaker 1: far up so that they hit it far up so
Speaker 1: I don't have to run so fast. Yeah, but Daryl,
Speaker 1: but it felt like Darryl kept being overlooked, at least
Speaker 1: by Michael. I mean he was in the warehouse, he
Speaker 1: put in the you know, trying we looked at I
Speaker 1: guess what was your negotiation? Was that your favorite episode? Probably? Yeah,
Speaker 1: just the sheer amount of work Mike an idea and
Speaker 1: they said people don't only only want I called him Mike.
Speaker 1: That's right. I didn't even realize that. Yeah, you're the
Speaker 1: only one who called him Mike. Um, what was it?
Speaker 1: What was it like for you working with Krasinski? How
Speaker 1: was he different than Steve? And he's a pain in
Speaker 1: the ass. But other than that, it was that John
Speaker 1: always struck me. I mean he just knew like he
Speaker 1: feel like he was, you know, just just brilliant dude.
Speaker 1: You know, uh, I love his directing and he's funny,
Speaker 1: you know when he wanted to be, but he was
Speaker 1: the more the leading man kind of dude. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know, he was always cool man. It was great
Speaker 1: in the finale. Um do you remember what happens in
Speaker 1: the finale We all go back to Scratton like a
Speaker 1: year later and we do that Q and a panel
Speaker 1: on the show. Yeah, and l A and her parents
Speaker 1: are there. My god, what card thinking about it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Joelqu sick? Was it sad? Sad to watch on? Uh
Speaker 1: in that moment with Ellie and because I don't know
Speaker 1: what was going on? Right? Yeah, that was pretty you know,
Speaker 1: rinching well and Creed singing the song all the faces
Speaker 1: he sings that and then Jenna takes the painting off
Speaker 1: the wall and goes outside. Oh yeah, I do remember that.
Speaker 1: Jens Alotta talked about that. Greg used to talk about
Speaker 1: the show was like a giant parking lot that goes
Speaker 1: on forever, Like as far as you can see, there's
Speaker 1: just asphalt everywhere, and then just line parking space, parking space,
Speaker 1: handicapped space, and that just goes on and on, he said.
Speaker 1: But then when you start to look closer, you see
Speaker 1: the little cracks in the parking lot, and every once
Speaker 1: in a while there's just a little teeny flower that
Speaker 1: comes up out of the ground. And examining that beauty
Speaker 1: in a waste land was what the show was trying
Speaker 1: to do. I think that's why it relates to people.
Speaker 1: One of the many reasons. Of course, have you ever
Speaker 1: seen Greg going to his own like what so we
Speaker 1: were doing this shows what in the office it was
Speaker 1: Mr Robins, Mr Robinson. Yeah, so we the pitch like
Speaker 1: the big pitch was like later on the the day
Speaker 1: and uh and Catskey was there. Tracy shout out Tracy
Speaker 1: and she had to move. She's like, great, we gotta go.
Speaker 1: And Greg went into this feverish, fierce like you saw
Speaker 1: his brain work and he started writing and banging. It
Speaker 1: was it was like watching Michaelangelo paint or something. It
Speaker 1: was it was like, Oh, this is happening right now
Speaker 1: in front of me, dude, is incredible. Salute Greg Nagels. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When when he was doing it, going into his writing
Speaker 1: mode and cast Key was trying to set Greg we go,
Speaker 1: he almost like you know, like he was typing. It was.
Speaker 1: It was it was amazing, bro. Wow, he was just
Speaker 1: he like he had an idea and he had do
Speaker 1: I swear it was like watching Harry Potter or something.
Speaker 1: It was. It was magic. It was like a whirldwind
Speaker 1: around him and he almost barked at her which she
Speaker 1: trying to get it to go. Yeah, see the smartest
Speaker 1: comedy person you know. Yes, I'm to say absolutely A
Speaker 1: do love working with Greg. I mean he couldn't be
Speaker 1: a nicer guy, you know, and then smartest dude in
Speaker 1: every room. Yeah, what are you? What are you most
Speaker 1: thankful for? For the Office? Um, you know, when you
Speaker 1: meet people, it's it's this genuine like like it feels
Speaker 1: like you you have friends everywhere, and that's, uh, that's
Speaker 1: a big part of my life because you know, these
Speaker 1: friends come out, they support my shows and what have you.
Speaker 1: And it's a lot of like the deeper goals. You know,
Speaker 1: people had these stories of you know, my my uh
Speaker 1: mother had cancer and you know we watched The Office
Speaker 1: and you know, we got through this and it will
Speaker 1: be these incredible heart wrenching stories about our family. We
Speaker 1: don't talk, but we bond over the Office. You know.
Speaker 1: Thank you asking me, You're like, why why the hell
Speaker 1: is the show still relevant? And I think that's that's
Speaker 1: a big part of it. People really connect through the
Speaker 1: show with family members or whoever. Right, why do you
Speaker 1: think it resonates? I mean, here was my impression anyway
Speaker 1: that people are like, oh, the office. Yeah, people can
Speaker 1: relate because sixty million people work in offices around the country.
Speaker 1: So of course, now like it's young people who are
Speaker 1: really into it. Soldiers for sure, man um yeah, and
Speaker 1: you young people like starting and people are like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm on my knight, nice time around watching it or
Speaker 1: we watched it, you know, three times or four times.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a phenomenon. I don't know how to
Speaker 1: put my finger on it. I think that awkwardness. You know,
Speaker 1: it's got everything that humor, awkward, it's got heart, you
Speaker 1: fall in love with people. You know, it's a beautiful.
Speaker 1: So yeah, alright, guys, do we need anything else from
Speaker 1: Mr Robinson here? No predictors, murn good, Thanks buddy, You're welcome,
Speaker 1: sir dude, it's been oh crazy, I've seen everyone, uh John,
Speaker 1: Johannah Rain. I'm sure this is the most boring interview.
Speaker 1: I'm suck at these things. Just good ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: the man himself, Craig Robinson. Craig, it's so good to
Speaker 1: see you, and I think we can all agree that
Speaker 1: you're anything but boring. Thank you for taking the time
Speaker 1: to stop by, and thank you, my favorite listeners for
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