WEBVTT - 9: Crime Doesn’t Pay

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<v Speaker 1>They were just the regular family with the child. If

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<v Speaker 1>you see them in Serbia, you would think this is

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<v Speaker 1>just another completely normal Serbian family.

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<v Speaker 2>After the Dubai heist, Laden Lazarevich, the mastermind, and his

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<v Speaker 2>co conspirator and girlfriend Buyana Mitch returned to Serbia. They

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<v Speaker 2>had pulled off something truly spectacular. They had plenty of money,

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<v Speaker 2>and they decided it was time to settle down. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>a reporter, Ilena Zorich. We're hearing her through a translator.

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<v Speaker 1>They prefer a more quiet life. They were buying their apartments,

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<v Speaker 1>they cut their kids, They had their family life and

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<v Speaker 1>that worked fine for them.

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<v Speaker 2>They get married, have a son, and reportedly open a

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<v Speaker 2>fitness club in Belgrade. As much as anyone could tell,

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<v Speaker 2>they were in fact leading a quiet life.

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<v Speaker 1>They could live very well in Serbia with the money

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<v Speaker 1>that they got after each robbery, so they didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to complicate things more and go any further. They could

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<v Speaker 1>feel pretty safe away from Dubai police, away from Interpol.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a dream of domestic tranquility paid for by crimes

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<v Speaker 2>that are firmly in the past. But in twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>a bomb is discovered under Boyana Mitach's car. Luckily it

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<v Speaker 2>falls to the ground without detonating. The police are called

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<v Speaker 2>and when they questioned the couple laden Boyana express total shock.

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<v Speaker 2>Who could possibly want to kill them? I'm Natalia Antalava.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a journalist based in Eastern Europe, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to take you into the world of Serbia's most brazen

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<v Speaker 2>jewel thieves.

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<v Speaker 3>The most daring and successful diamond things in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty to forty seconds and help.

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<v Speaker 3>They've stolen a half of billion dollars of the valuable.

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<v Speaker 2>Two well dressed men strolled into an exclusive jewelry store

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<v Speaker 2>in London and walked out with sixty six million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>in jewels. They called the Pink Panthers, their loosely connected

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<v Speaker 2>crew of over educated, underemployed ambitious young people who rose

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<v Speaker 2>from the ashes of the Yugoslav Wars of the nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>nineties to commit elaborate smash and grab heists all across

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<v Speaker 2>the globe, often in broad daylight. This is infamous international

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<v Speaker 2>The Pink Panther's Story, episode nine, Crime Doesn't Pay.

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<v Speaker 1>He did a couple of hides, one of them pretty spectacular,

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<v Speaker 1>but he didn't have the reason to believe that someone

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<v Speaker 1>would want to kill him in Serbia.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been six years since the waffe heist in Dubai,

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<v Speaker 2>and although Vladen Lazarevich planned and led that job, he

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<v Speaker 2>has seemingly gotten out of the game. It was Milan

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<v Speaker 2>Lipoya who had taken most of the spotlight in the

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<v Speaker 2>years since Serbian investigative journalist Helena's rage.

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<v Speaker 1>Milan in fact was the most important person after Maladen,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was presented in the media as the main one,

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<v Speaker 1>as the number one. Milan didn't mind having this reputation.

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<v Speaker 1>He liked the role to be presented in the media

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<v Speaker 1>as the main one.

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<v Speaker 2>Milan also returned to Serbia, but he was less interested

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<v Speaker 2>in settling down. He opened a nightclub. He had a

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<v Speaker 2>yacht and would cruise the Mediterranean, inviting rich and beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>people aboard for lavish parties.

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<v Speaker 1>His favorite destination when he was sailing on his yacht

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<v Speaker 1>was between the Italian and French coast, near French Riviera.

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<v Speaker 1>And during these little crew this oneasyacht, he was spending

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<v Speaker 1>tons of money hundreds of thousands of euros and his

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<v Speaker 1>guests were usually the famous businessman and also the world

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<v Speaker 1>famous models.

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<v Speaker 2>Milan is hardly keeping a low profile despite the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that he's a wanted man.

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<v Speaker 1>So during this time there were people who were looking

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<v Speaker 1>for him, but he was somewhere near frank Riviera having fun,

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<v Speaker 1>so at that time they didn't find him.

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<v Speaker 2>Milan would often videotape his escapades and share them with

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<v Speaker 2>his friends back in Niche, and every video ends with

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<v Speaker 2>the same sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>The sentence was, well, two days after these parties, after

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<v Speaker 1>all this fun that I used to have, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a penny in my pocket, so I had to

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<v Speaker 1>go and steal again so that I have some money

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<v Speaker 1>to live with.

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<v Speaker 2>And Milan did go and steal again. He continued to

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<v Speaker 2>pull heists around Europe until he was finally arrested, tried,

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<v Speaker 2>and sent to prison. He spent nearly a decade behind bars.

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<v Speaker 2>When he returned home, he didn't last long. The criminal

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<v Speaker 2>world in Niche had changed become more dangerous As a

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<v Speaker 2>rival gangs battled for turf. Milan chose a side, and

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<v Speaker 2>it cost him his life. His violent and had a

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<v Speaker 2>certain logic to it. But why would Boyana's car be

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<v Speaker 2>targeted with a car bomb? Both she and her husband

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<v Speaker 2>had left the life of crime. Police assume the bomb

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<v Speaker 2>was actually intended for London, and the media is quick

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<v Speaker 2>to start digging into his background.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very interesting that in our country practically nobody was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about him until the bomb attempt. That's when the

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<v Speaker 1>media started talking about him, and that's when they said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this person might be someone who is involved with the

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<v Speaker 1>Pink Panthers, but they never mentioned it before.

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<v Speaker 2>Journalists try to contact Boyana too, but she's not talking utter.

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<v Speaker 2>Helenazorich reaches out to her repeatedly.

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<v Speaker 1>She was not in the mood to give any statement.

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<v Speaker 1>She refuses any way of communication with anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Buyanna even takes down her Twitter profile.

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<v Speaker 1>She used a picture of a diamond as her profile picture,

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<v Speaker 1>but when they tried to kill her husband, obviously it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't funny anymore, so she removed it. Than she she

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<v Speaker 1>was not active there either.

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<v Speaker 2>The case of the attempted bombing is never solved. Then

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<v Speaker 2>two years after that failed car bomb, there is another

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<v Speaker 2>attempt on Laden Lazarevich's life. He's waiting at a stoplight

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<v Speaker 2>in his land robber when an audi pulls up next

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<v Speaker 2>to him and then jumps out of the audi and

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<v Speaker 2>approaches Laden's land robber. He Lena Zorich. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>This all happened in the suburbs of Belgrade. He was

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<v Speaker 1>in his car when they started shooting in him, and

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<v Speaker 1>there were thirty shots.

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<v Speaker 2>Somehow Bladin is able to pull away as bullets fly

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<v Speaker 2>around him, blood pouring down his face, he manages to

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<v Speaker 2>drive to the nearest hospital. Incredibly, he has suffered only

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<v Speaker 2>superficial wounds cuts on his face and head from the

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<v Speaker 2>shattered glass of the windshield. Again, he's questioned by the police,

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<v Speaker 2>and again he claims he could not be more surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>He even says in the hospital that he doesn't understand

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<v Speaker 1>why it happened to him because he didn't have any enemies,

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<v Speaker 1>so he wasn't sure who would want to kill him.

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<v Speaker 2>Bladen is well aware that whoever is trying to kill

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<v Speaker 2>him is still out there. The police assigned a guard

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<v Speaker 2>to stay outside his hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>Room, and of course he didn't feel safe, so his

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<v Speaker 1>friends managed to take him from the hospital. They practically

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<v Speaker 1>kidnapped him from the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>Even with the police officers stationed outside his room, London

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<v Speaker 2>manages to leave with his friends as an extra precausion

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<v Speaker 2>picked him up in an armored car.

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<v Speaker 1>The person who provided this armored car. His name is

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<v Speaker 1>the Dragon.

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<v Speaker 2>Mikic, Dragon Mackage, a name we've heard before. I spoke

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<v Speaker 2>to my colleague, reporter Elan Greenberg, who gave me some context. Elans,

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<v Speaker 2>the last time we were talking about Dragon Mackage, that

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<v Speaker 2>was when he broke out of a French prison and

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<v Speaker 2>then he basically vanished, He disappeared, and because of that,

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<v Speaker 2>I was a bit shocked when Helena Zorich suddenly mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>him again.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, look, if you think about it, Serbia's a small country,

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<v Speaker 4>niche is a small city, and these guys, even if

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<v Speaker 4>they're not part of a you know, a unified criminal syndicate,

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<v Speaker 4>they're still all in the same business. They're like friendly associates.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure that all makes sense, but can you just

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<v Speaker 2>bring us up to speed on who this guy, Dragon

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<v Speaker 2>Mickage is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, his name comes up all the time and stories

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<v Speaker 4>about Pink Panthers. People say he's one of the leaders

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<v Speaker 4>of the gang. And you know, he's a big guy.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like six foot six with muscles and top of muscles.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember that the Paris police detective Ever Kannan said that

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<v Speaker 4>Mikish did two thousand push ups a day in prison,

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<v Speaker 4>so he's an intimidating presence and pretty clearly he's someone

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<v Speaker 4>with influence. A couple of fellow panthers Building Ak forty

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<v Speaker 4>seven's broke him out of that French jail and he

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<v Speaker 4>ended up back in Serbia.

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<v Speaker 2>Where apparently he has access to an armored car he

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<v Speaker 2>can leand to his friendly associate Laden Lazarvich when he

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<v Speaker 2>needs one.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, and more than that, because don't forget Milanin

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<v Speaker 4>is in the hospital, he's recovering from his injuries. He

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<v Speaker 4>has a police guard sitting right outside his room. Dragon

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<v Speaker 4>Mekish also helps with that, does he now, Yes, Mikish

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<v Speaker 4>was arrested for making fouriged documents. He had a partner

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<v Speaker 4>woman who turned out to be a member of the police,

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<v Speaker 4>so it appears that Mikish may have had connections on

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<v Speaker 4>the police force who could get that officer outside his

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<v Speaker 4>hospital room to stand down or at least not getting

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<v Speaker 4>and the way when Miki shows up with that armored car.

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<v Speaker 2>So with the help of his friends, Laden is safe

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<v Speaker 2>again and now he's not taking any chances.

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<v Speaker 1>Madame Lazareg has his own security and these are actually

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<v Speaker 1>the ex members of the special police Units against terrorism.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them actually are working like a private security

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what he has at this moment.

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<v Speaker 2>But why would anyone want to kill Vladen the former

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<v Speaker 2>jewel thief turned family man. Based on her reporting and sources,

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<v Speaker 2>Yelena Zorich has an idea.

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<v Speaker 1>So all those stories about his family life with Buena,

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<v Speaker 1>with his wife, that's actually not happening anymore and he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing something completely different. Maladen Lazarevich's life is much more

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous today than what it used to be when he

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<v Speaker 1>was in Pink Panther because he is the most powerful

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<v Speaker 1>cocaine a dealer in our country.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeladasorig believes that Ladon Lazarevich is in all likelihood a

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<v Speaker 2>powerful crime boss. Based on recent reporting, we think that

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<v Speaker 2>he's likely working for Klan America, a Balkan gang with

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<v Speaker 2>connections to the South American drug trade. So this image

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<v Speaker 2>of the quiet family life with Boyana, it's a front.

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<v Speaker 1>Boyanav is someone who is the wife of an arko boss, definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is not just any narko boss. He is

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<v Speaker 1>the most important man in this area.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladon Lazarevitch celebrated his thirty seventh birthday in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>The party brought out some notable guests.

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<v Speaker 1>It's known as a fact, for example, that the last

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<v Speaker 1>year he celebrated his birthday in the town of Nish

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<v Speaker 1>and for this celebration for his birthday other people who

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<v Speaker 1>were invited those were also other big cocaine bosses of

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<v Speaker 1>West Balkans and police is aware of what's happening and

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<v Speaker 1>who is right there, but there is no reaction from

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<v Speaker 1>their part whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>All of this might explain Whydin wasn't questioned more forcefully

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<v Speaker 2>by the police after he was attacked, why his police

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<v Speaker 2>escort allowed him to leave the hospital in that armored car,

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<v Speaker 2>and why his name had not been publicly associated with

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<v Speaker 2>any major crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>The police and prosecutors when they hear his name in

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<v Speaker 1>a connection with any murder or any severe crime, they

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<v Speaker 1>simply just ignore it. And when you ask around in

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<v Speaker 1>a niche about him, people are just scared. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to share anything with you. He is a very

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous man and he is more dangerous than he ever

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<v Speaker 1>used to be before.

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<v Speaker 2>We asked OLIVERA. Tcherkovic, the former basketball star and convicted

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<v Speaker 2>Pink Panther, for her thoughts about Bloodin.

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<v Speaker 5>To toyblo Robe.

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<v Speaker 2>Her son Nicholas is translating here.

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<v Speaker 6>I was not the part of the team who did

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<v Speaker 6>it in Dubai. We can talk about the guys who

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<v Speaker 6>were in Dubai because two of them are close friends

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<v Speaker 6>of us, so we really know the story, but I

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<v Speaker 6>don't want to speak of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the past several years, the criminal underworld in the

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<v Speaker 2>Balkans has come to be dominated by two major clans,

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<v Speaker 2>the Kavakhs and the Scalieris in twenty twenty one about

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<v Speaker 2>thirty criminals associated with the kavak where rest and charged

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<v Speaker 2>with multiple counts of kidnapping, rape and murder, including the

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<v Speaker 2>killing of Milan Li Puya. As of this recording, trials

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<v Speaker 2>are still ongoing in Belgrade. It has become a media

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<v Speaker 2>sensation throughout the Balkans.

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<v Speaker 5>Tabloid media are all over it. You have front pages

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<v Speaker 5>full of physic gluesome bloody details.

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<v Speaker 2>Ivan and Gaelovski is a Serbian investigative journalist now based

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<v Speaker 2>in Canada. He says that local tabloids are obsessed with

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<v Speaker 2>all the grisly details that are emerging from the trial.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not easy to read front pages where you can

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<v Speaker 5>see pictures of people smiling holding other people's severed heads,

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<v Speaker 5>which you can see right now or on front pages

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<v Speaker 5>of some of Serbian tabloids. So it's very chilling atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 2>The court proceedings have offered a particularly graphic look inside

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<v Speaker 2>the dangerous world of drug trafficking.

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<v Speaker 5>They have several insider witnesses and they don't spare any

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<v Speaker 5>words in describing the grusolness of those murders. They would

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<v Speaker 5>photograph their victims and they would send those images and

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<v Speaker 5>videos to their bosses, and one message, if I remember correctly,

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<v Speaker 5>was can you see this boss? It's Mexico in central Belgrade,

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<v Speaker 5>so you can say that they were implementing brutal practices

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<v Speaker 5>of criminal groups in South America. It's the same region

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<v Speaker 5>that they would traffic the cocaine front.

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<v Speaker 2>But the trial is drawing attention for more than its

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<v Speaker 2>corey details.

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<v Speaker 5>The trial is heavily politicized and everyone is following it

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<v Speaker 5>because of political connections.

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<v Speaker 2>As we've heard before from numerous journalists based in the Balkans.

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<v Speaker 2>In Serbia, the ties between organized crime and the state

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<v Speaker 2>run deep, and according to Angelovsky, that's particularly true in

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<v Speaker 2>the case of the Kavakh Klan.

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<v Speaker 5>They have you know their financial interests, they have their

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<v Speaker 5>political connections. It is often considered that the members of

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<v Speaker 5>this group are in one way or the other connected

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<v Speaker 5>to the ruling party here in Belgrade, So everything around

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<v Speaker 5>them has political consequences.

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<v Speaker 2>And as we've seen, whenever crime and politics intermingo and Serbia,

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<v Speaker 2>soccer or football is usually somewhere in the mix too.

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<v Speaker 5>So the group that's on trial, they are members of

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<v Speaker 5>an organized brand group, but they're also supporters of a

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<v Speaker 5>football team in Belgrade. It's often considered that who leads

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<v Speaker 5>the supporters on football stadiums, they lead the narcotics trade

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<v Speaker 5>in country. So the group that's on trial are the

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<v Speaker 5>main traffickers of cocaine from South America to Europe.

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<v Speaker 2>Reporter Evan and Gilowski thinks all this media focus on

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<v Speaker 2>the Serbian government's alleged ties to organized crime is unlikely

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<v Speaker 2>to do much to stem the country's corruptions.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not the first time we're seeing this. We were

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<v Speaker 5>in this situation before. You know, first democratically elected Prime

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<v Speaker 5>minister of Serbia, Zorojinich, was murdered in two thousand and three.

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<v Speaker 5>We had a similar atmosphere as we have now. Back

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<v Speaker 5>then the organized crime killed the Prime Minister, and that

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<v Speaker 5>was a watershedting moment because people figured out how deep

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<v Speaker 5>politics was involved with organized crime. Because you know, organized

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<v Speaker 5>crime never died down. We are now seeing this.

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<v Speaker 2>Two of the defendants who testified in the trial admitted

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<v Speaker 2>that they actually work for the Serbian government, claiming they've

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<v Speaker 2>met several times with the country's current president, Alexander Vocich,

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<v Speaker 2>who asked them to perform various quld unquote favors over

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<v Speaker 2>the years. Vutich has publicly denied all of these allegations.

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<v Speaker 2>The trial has revealed shocking details about the nature of

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<v Speaker 2>Serbia's criminal cartels, their fascination with the brutal style of

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<v Speaker 2>their Central and South American business partners, their entrenched connections

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<v Speaker 2>to the country's political class, and it has brought attention

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<v Speaker 2>to another story, a more personal one. As troubling as

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<v Speaker 2>it is hard to prove.

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<v Speaker 1>It's important just to remember this information. A Malad and

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<v Speaker 1>Lazarevich in a niche he had a nickname, and his

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<v Speaker 1>nickname is Ladentu. That's like a little Maladen.

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<v Speaker 2>Little Mladen, acute nickname for someone who's potentially a very

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous man. Yelena's richest source tells her that Mladen knew

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<v Speaker 2>that Milan Lepoye had joined up with the rival klan,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was not.

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<v Speaker 1>Pleased the fact that there were tape conversation when there

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<v Speaker 1>was an investigation about the murder of Yapoya, and in

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<v Speaker 1>this taped conversation, several times the name of Mladene was mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>so he was aware of what's going on with Yepoya

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<v Speaker 1>and he was not happy with the fact that Yapoya

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<v Speaker 1>was with the gang of SKAYERI.

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<v Speaker 2>It's possible that the so called Little Laden was involved

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<v Speaker 2>in some way in the murder of his old friend Milan,

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<v Speaker 2>but so far he has not appeared at the trial.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite the fact that the name of Mlada was always

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<v Speaker 1>present in his conversation, the police actually never invited him

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<v Speaker 1>to testify.

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<v Speaker 2>None of this is proved that Laden Lazarevitch was involved

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<v Speaker 2>in the killing of Milan le Poya, and Yelena says

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<v Speaker 2>that she can fully verify this claim. The trial is

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<v Speaker 2>ongoing as of the recording of this episode. While the

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<v Speaker 2>cinematic tale of Milan Lipuyan, Milada Lazarevich and Boyana Mitic

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<v Speaker 2>may sound like something straight out of Hollywood, for Jelena Zorich,

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<v Speaker 2>there is little to root for in their story.

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<v Speaker 1>So many people will probably try to make the story

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more romantic. They will probably talk about

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<v Speaker 1>their spectacular heists, especially the one in Dubai. They're going

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you how unique, how spectacular this was. But

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<v Speaker 1>for me, this story is far away from that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just the simple thieves who are maybe interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>regular people because they steal from the rich. Know that

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<v Speaker 1>these are thieves who later become a murderers.

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<v Speaker 2>These days, alleged Pink Panthers make the occasional appearance in

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<v Speaker 2>the medium, but more often than not their reports are

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<v Speaker 2>a bit anti climactic because their highsts aren't successful.

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<v Speaker 7>To the index.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, in a major takedown overseas police arresting five suspected

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<v Speaker 3>members of the notorious.

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<v Speaker 2>Pink Panther gang during a jewel heist in Barcelona, Reports

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<v Speaker 2>like this one from ABC News in twenty sixteen about

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<v Speaker 2>a failed Pink Panther's heist, one where the authorities who

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<v Speaker 2>are several steps ahead of the would be thieves, are

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<v Speaker 2>becoming more common, and as Aveko Nan told NPR, one

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<v Speaker 2>reason for this is geopolitics.

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<v Speaker 7>Detective Kanan of the Paris Police says the Pink Panther

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<v Speaker 7>era is nearly finished. He says most of the thieves

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<v Speaker 7>hail from Serbia and Mountainegro, which are becoming more willing

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<v Speaker 7>to hand over suspects to international law enforcements.

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<v Speaker 5>Serbian Mantenegro want to go in the European Union, so

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<v Speaker 5>in the pat that we're untouchable, and now they can

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<v Speaker 5>be arrested.

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<v Speaker 2>The panthers are no longer able to flee back to

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<v Speaker 2>Serby and live openly and well on their ill gotten

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<v Speaker 2>gains now that the Serbian government sees more value in

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<v Speaker 2>extraditing them. Overall, the Ping Panthers simply can't operate the

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<v Speaker 2>way they once did, and so they've become less of

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<v Speaker 2>a priority for law enforcement. INTERPOL shut down Ron Nobles

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<v Speaker 2>Ping Panther task force in twenty sixteen, and recently Interpal

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<v Speaker 2>itself has come under scrutiny for alleged abuses of its

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<v Speaker 2>Red Notice system. The alerted issues to law enforcement around

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<v Speaker 2>the world about the presence of criminals in their jurisdiction.

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<v Speaker 2>Chief among the abusers of this system, the United Arab

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<v Speaker 2>Emirates Human rights attorney Rather Sterling, says that Interpol has

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<v Speaker 2>allowed its red notices to be used by the Immerting

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<v Speaker 2>government as a pretext to target its enemies. I've removed

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of these notices over the years. I present evidence

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<v Speaker 2>to Interpol that this should never have been put to

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<v Speaker 2>into Poland in the first place, and they agree with me.

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<v Speaker 6>But they don't do anything to stop it.

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<v Speaker 5>So the UA is absolutely abusing that access to the database,

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<v Speaker 5>but into Pol doesn't want to upset them.

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<v Speaker 2>In the past several years, the UAE has publicly donated

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<v Speaker 2>over fifty million dollars to Interpol an incentive for the

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<v Speaker 2>international organization to leave well enough alone.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're a huge donor, and they're also a partner

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<v Speaker 1>in fighting other.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorts of more high profile crime, and they definitely don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to lose that relationship. Something else has changed since Boyana,

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<v Speaker 2>Landon and Milan pulled off their heist at the Waffi

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<v Speaker 2>Mall in Dubai. According to journalist Devana and Gelowski, the

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<v Speaker 2>United Arab Emirates and Serbia have developed a much more

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<v Speaker 2>intimate relationship.

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<v Speaker 5>After twenty twelve, UAE and Serbia got into some kind

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<v Speaker 5>of cooperation from then on. There are lots of Balkan

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<v Speaker 5>people in ue Now you have some of the main

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<v Speaker 5>major kingpins of Palkan organized crime living in Uee because

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<v Speaker 5>of protections they have.

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<v Speaker 2>There and Sazangilowski. In twenty thirteen, the Emeratic government began

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<v Speaker 2>pouring money into infrastructure projects in Serbia.

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<v Speaker 5>There are these several projects in Serbia funded by money

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<v Speaker 5>from UAE. Some suspect that it's actually money from Serbia

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<v Speaker 5>advent to UAE and then back to Serbia. And there

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<v Speaker 5>are lots of for example, arms deals, So there are

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<v Speaker 5>these connections that are basically shady. But all of that

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<v Speaker 5>comes after Dubai heist.

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<v Speaker 2>As for Interpose energetic young Secretary General Ron Noble, who

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<v Speaker 2>championed the organization's pursuit of the Ping panthers. He retired

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<v Speaker 2>from Interpol in twenty sixteen to enter the private sector.

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<v Speaker 2>He now has a number of business interests in Dubai.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do people get driven to a life of crime?

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<v Speaker 2>Former interpoal director with in Salesgabor I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think certainly in the recent history you've seen people with

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<v Speaker 3>high skill sets that now are confronted with a economic issue,

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<v Speaker 3>like in the US Lago when the sanctions came in,

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<v Speaker 3>they're forced to do other things they'll figure out how

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<v Speaker 3>to use their skills, whether it be with weapons, with violence,

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<v Speaker 3>with technology, whether it be state driven or motivated by money.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think all of it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it is the story of crime.

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<v Speaker 8>When you become someone who can survive in a broken society,

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<v Speaker 8>you get creative, you get resourceful.

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<v Speaker 2>Reporter Eric Pape has thought a lot about the roads

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<v Speaker 2>not taken of people like Milani Puya, lad Laza Rich

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<v Speaker 2>and Boyana Metage, the hypothetical lives they and other Pink

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<v Speaker 2>Panthers might have had given other circumstances.

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<v Speaker 8>In Malcolm X's autobiography, he writes the whole section about

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<v Speaker 8>all the different people he's doing time with in prison,

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<v Speaker 8>and at one point he says, you know, there are

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<v Speaker 8>all these guys. If they had access to a different life,

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<v Speaker 8>they could have been amazing. And he went crime by

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<v Speaker 8>crime among his friends in prison and sort of thought,

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<v Speaker 8>what would they have been like in a better life.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, not every person facing the challenges of life

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<v Speaker 2>in post war Serbia turned to boosting diamonds from Grafen

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<v Speaker 2>Harry Winston. Some adapted in other ways that were less

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<v Speaker 2>criminal in nature. But for Eric Paige, the Big Panthers

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately may have managed to acquire that one thing that

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<v Speaker 2>they seem to value lost.

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<v Speaker 9>Just the fact that we're talking about this, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>almost a decade and a half later, tells me that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>it was a really great yarn. And I think that

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<v Speaker 9>authors of this yarn aren't the Pink Panthers themselves. They

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<v Speaker 9>seem to have been brilliant in their choice of crimes,

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<v Speaker 9>but they also told a story. I think it's the

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<v Speaker 9>reason that we are still talking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it for this season of Infamous International, The Story

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<v Speaker 2>of the Pink Panthers. I'm Natalia Antalava of Koda Story.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for listening. Infamous International The Pink Panthers Story

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<v Speaker 2>was produced by Best Case Studios in association with Koda Story,

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<v Speaker 2>hosted by me Natalia Antalava, and written by Katrina Wolfe,

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Pinkis, Suszanne Myers, and David Markowitz, with help from

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<v Speaker 2>Brent Katz and Matt Levin. For Best Case Studios, Executive

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<v Speaker 2>producer Adam Pinkis, Senior producer David Markowitz, producer Katrina Wolfe,

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<v Speaker 2>Associate producer Hannah Libovitz Lockhart, and consulting producers Julie Goldstein,

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<v Speaker 2>and Louis Spiegler for Koda. Story reporting by Lane Greenberg

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<v Speaker 2>with associate producer Rebecca Robinson. Edited and sound designed by

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<v Speaker 2>Gaylen Mullins and Max Michael Miller. Special thanks to Dean

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<v Speaker 2>White and James Hansen. Music by Dave Harrington. Archival producers

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Degora and Paul Dallas. This has been an exactly

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<v Speaker 2>right production. Executive producers Karen Kilgareth Georgia hart Stark, and

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel Kramer, with consulting producer Kyle Ryan