1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Listen to The Black Guy Who Tips Podcast because Roden, 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Karen or Hey, welcome to another episode of The Black 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Guy Who Tells Podcast. I'm your host Rod, joined as 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: always by my co host Karen, and we're here for people, 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: the dozens of us survivors that are left twelve, the 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: people that even waited for our slow asses to get 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: caught up. 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: All right, we're. 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: Recapping The Walking Dead, the final season. I think after 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 1: tonight we have four more episodes to go. 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: This and I know it might sound stupid, but I 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: feel like we're flying through the season. 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: Honestly, It's taken a lot not to just binge it 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: just to get to the next one when I see 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: another episode. But I know the audience is used to 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: the wait between and they're used to having an episode 17 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: per recap so they don't have to, you know, stop 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: the show because we're like, oh, we're gonna do three 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: today or whatever. 20 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: So I'm just trying to keep it to the tradition. 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: And you know, uh that way, when we add it 22 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: to the Walking Dead playlist on Spotify, it'll be like 23 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: nothing ever. 24 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: Changed, you know, But yes, it is Walking Day of 25 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: recap time. 26 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 4: Look, Bumble knows you're exhausted by dating alda must not 27 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 4: take yourself too seriously and six one since that matters? 28 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 4: And what do I even say other than hey, Well, 29 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 4: that's why they're introducing an all new Bumble with exciting 30 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 4: features to make compatibility easier, starting the chat better, and 31 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 4: dating safer. 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This episode was titled What's 43 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: Been Lost? It's actually directed by Aisha Tyler. 44 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 5: Oh for real? 45 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of my problematic phaves. Okay, love her, love 46 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: her work. You know she's She's actually been in episodes 47 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: of fear to walking Dead and that that dope ass 48 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: wrestling episode that was so fun. But uh yeah, it's 49 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: the one hundred and seventy third episode and the twentieth 50 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: of this season, meaning there's four left after this one. Karen, 51 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: you know how we start. What did you think about 52 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: this episode? 53 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: In general? 54 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: I like this episode. This episode was really good. It 55 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: was really fast paced good. I love the pace moving. 56 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 3: It concluded a lot of things. It kind of answers 57 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: some questions, but it brought up some other things which 58 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: I've got a feeling that answer later on. And just 59 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 3: from the preview last week, I was like, Oh, this 60 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 3: is gonna be good, and it really was. I enjoyed 61 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: this episode a lot. 62 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah I did too. I thought it was fast moving. 63 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 1: The run time seems to be somewhere around like hour 64 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: six minutes with commercials, but you know the days of 65 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: the hour thirty minute, our forty minute. 66 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: Slog, sometimes that's gone. 67 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: And I just appreciate the tight like amount of plot 68 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: movement that happened in this episode. 69 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: Everything seems to be moving forward at a rapid page. 70 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: Shout out to Jessica Kayne. Cut some of this shit out. 71 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not a lot of filler in my opinion, 72 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: and yet it's still so stylistically good. That's you know, 73 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: these recaps are short, but I honestly think that's because 74 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: I like the way the show is moving. All right, 75 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: So what's been lost? I wrote two different locations. I 76 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: got on the run with Caroly and Darryl basically, and 77 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: then I have the Governor's House everything that happened with you, 78 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: Mico and Pamela and all that stuff. I'm not really 79 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: sure which one to go with first. I guess we'll 80 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: go with the Governor's House, although some of the Governor's 81 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: House stuff will have spoilers for the second part I'm 82 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: about to tell you, but this is the boring part, 83 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: so I just say we do this first. Okay, okay, 84 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: this is the least action. So Pamela Milton is talking 85 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: to some donors after, of course, we watched her son 86 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: get zombified and eating and get exposed with the videotape, right, 87 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 1: I mean audio tape. 88 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were sitting in there like, yes, a great job. 89 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: What do I make my donation check out to? 90 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 91 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: Pamela felt like Drew Barrymore coming back to work with 92 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: no writers because I don't know if you saw the 93 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: latest news. 94 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: But Drew Barrymore show is coming back. 95 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: The writers declined to come back, saying, I said it 96 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: what happened? 97 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: Because I didn't? 98 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: I say, yeah, because. 99 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: What I said? What I said? I told didn't I 100 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: said what happened? When I said so? 101 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: Because they was like, this. 102 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 2: Is the opposite I told you? What did I tell you? 103 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: Didn't I tell you because I told you? And when 104 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: did I tell you a long time ago? And what 105 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: did I say? What happened? When I told you exactly 106 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: what just happened? 107 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? Because pray, what was that? 108 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 4: Aghattle? 109 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's right, I've been about it. 110 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: We've been right about ah. Yes. 111 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 5: Yes. 112 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: They were mad because they was like, this is literally 113 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: the opposite of everything you stand for. And you know 114 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: in their mind they was like, hey, if something like 115 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: this was to happen again, we know that you won't 116 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: have our backs as writers. 117 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: She was walking right past them. I said that shit 118 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: on the shaw said, I don't know. 119 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: How they're gonna go back to work with her because 120 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: she walked past like she walked in that building while 121 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: they were outside picking in. 122 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: That's not a slight people can just take. 123 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: And at that level because it was her co the 124 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: like head writers coach, she has three co head writers. 125 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: At that level, you making haird writer money, you might 126 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: have some options like staff writers like me, you probably 127 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: gonna I would have walked right back up in that 128 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: bitch and just been mad that she was did that shit, 129 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't have said nothing. 130 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: And they was like, oh, oh, everybody coming back, so 131 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: I can get another job somewhere. 132 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the co write like that. 133 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: At that point, you can probably find another job where 134 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,559 Speaker 1: you just have enough money to work on your stuff 135 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: or whatever pet projects or are you making a huge 136 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: sacrifice to make a point Either way, all three of 137 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: them women was like, we're not coming back. 138 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: So that's how Pamela felt this episode. 139 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: She was sitting there talking about, Oh, don't worry, We're 140 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: gonna get the donations going and the order is gonna 141 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: be restored and everything's gonna be fine. 142 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: And then the people was like, well, longest the check clip. 143 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: But I was like, I don't see Max in there. Obviously, 144 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: Sebashion ain't there, Mercer ain't in there. She in there 145 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: with the B team, okay, and just like she had 146 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: the B team security going on, Yeah she did you 147 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: might go bust it up in there. When Pamela was 148 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: talking about I'm gonna stop all the immigration, that'll fix everything, 149 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: and this one Donna was like I'm sorry you lost 150 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: your son, and Umico busting it was like, man, fuck u. 151 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: Son with my friends? Right? Is happening? What's going on 152 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: up in hill now? 153 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: Last time the episode ended with us seeing Rosita get 154 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, abducted basically right now. 155 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: Her business and just got a bag of her head 156 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: and yanked. 157 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: So if humico Od's busting in here asking about where 158 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: her friends are, we know more of them are going missing. 159 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: And so Pamela like, let listen, let Umicico go. There's 160 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: no threat here, and Umicod is like, bitch, I am 161 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: the threat. And Milne was like clear the room, everybody 162 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: so we could talk, and essentially she tells umicoch yeah, 163 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: I've been kidnapping your friends. I got them. We removed 164 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: him from the Commonwealth and she's like this against the law, 165 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: you know. Umic Go's like this against the law, you 166 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: don't what do you even stand for? And Pamela's like, actually, 167 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: it's about the law, it's about justice. I'm blackmailing you 168 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: because I want you as a lawyer to represent the 169 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: Commonwealth in the trial of the Commonwealth versus Eugene whatever. 170 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: His last name is, like Porter. 171 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like, uh, you gonna be the fucking head prosecutor. 172 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: And if you don't, you ain't gonna never see your 173 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: friends again. Yeah. 174 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: She looked at her, like the hell I will. 175 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: Well. 176 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: She then threatens you MCO's brother yep, who is not 177 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: one of the Alexandri's. He just he was living at 178 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: the whole time, minding his business, and we know from 179 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: our interactions with him he's kind. I don't want to 180 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: call him a coward, that's probably not fair, but he's 181 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: very much like I would be in the Commonwealth, where 182 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: it's like, girl, they got running water, what okay, some 183 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: people get kid now once in a while. 184 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: What's that got to do with this? 185 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? And then also with her brother, he was like, 186 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 3: I liked being undneath the radarf. Well, I was not 187 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: seeing nobody knew who the fuck I was. You watch 188 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: your ass in here and have me in the position 189 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: where I can be seen, which is not what he 190 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: desired in the first place. 191 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: He just don't want no stress, right, you know, he's 192 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: very much like listen, I just want to make ice 193 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: cream or cash. 194 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: He was like, I just want to make cupcakes and 195 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: be on food Wars Alexandria, food Wars whatever they are, 196 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 3: food wars. 197 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: Hell is this. 198 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to fix no cancers or nothing, just 199 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: nothing but easy, smooth sailing for me. Give me a 200 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: job with the least responsibility possible, the least and that's 201 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: who Pamela threatened. She was like, somethingight happen to your 202 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: brother if you don't do what I do, sell you do, Umico, 203 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: and she's like, I'm going. Pamela says, I'm about to 204 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: go prepare this press conference and your ass better be 205 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: there or be square telling everybody you're gonna prosecute Eugene. 206 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 2: Don't be late. 207 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: And Umico leaves and goes to the and she does 208 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: storm off, and that's and like Pamela like looks at 209 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: her for a second and she storms off, like yeah, 210 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: that's what I thought, bitch. Like they're really taking the 211 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: mask off of Pamela, and just now the last two 212 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: episodes to be like, oh, she gotta not just a 213 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: She don't just have a politician side to her. 214 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 2: She has like a evil do dirt side to her. 215 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, which is I think has always been there. And 216 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 3: I think that she used to have her boy she 217 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 3: was ribbing on last week do a lot of that ship, 218 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: but now she's having to do it herself since she 219 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: kind of, you know, locked him in, locked him in 220 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 3: the room because I've been and killed some of his men, 221 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: so who knows if those people could even do dirt 222 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 3: right now? Right? 223 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: So then umuld go goes to the hospital to see 224 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: her brother, who's now a doctor and not a baker anymore, 225 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: and she tells him that, hey, Pamela took my friends 226 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: and he and she's blackmailing me. 227 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: What do you think I should do now? 228 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: I think this is interesting because one, she's asking him 229 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: for advice in this scene, and I'm not saying that 230 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: she wouldn't the character wouldn't ask, but I guess in 231 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: my mind, I feel like she's the one that always 232 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: seems to know. She seems to be the one that 233 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: would know what to do, not ask what to do. 234 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: But I think the show kind of needed her to 235 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: be in the hospital for what happens later in the hospital, 236 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: so they're just like, oh, we'll have her go talk 237 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: to her brother. Also reminds the audience. Who her brother is. 238 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: It's now he be on the screen every week. 239 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: Correct. But of course he gives the advice I thought 240 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: he was gonna give. 241 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: Oh no, uh, because he not about that life if 242 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 3: and it is, I ain't seen it. I ain't seen nothing. 243 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: So he's very much like, just keep your head down. 244 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: Let her prosecute your friend. 245 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 3: She threatened me to like, let's keep everybody safe, and 246 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 3: he said something that I knew was not true, but 247 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: he because he don't know, you know, her crew, he 248 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: was like, this is what they would have wanted. I 249 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 3: was thinking the fuck they would. 250 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: Right, And so she then says, uh, so you just 251 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: accept it. That's you're just gonna accept this bullshit And 252 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: he said it's not acceptance, it's survival. So she goes 253 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: to leave, you know, and she doesn't look like she's 254 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: mad at him. She looks like she might be about 255 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: to take his advice. I don't know, because he's like, 256 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: just fucking do the blackmail trial, bitch, what's. 257 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 2: Wrong with you? Stop trying to. 258 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: And so on her way out, Connie is in like 259 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: a supply closet and she like like motions to Umiko, 260 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: come here in the closet, and because uh, you know, 261 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: Connie uh uses asl they basically can have this conversation 262 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: with just their hands whenever got loud. And just one 263 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: of the things that is an asset in the Zpoch 264 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: that you would think would be a detriment, but it's like, actually, 265 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: the ability to communicate in a way that you don't 266 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: have to use your voices correct is extremely important, especially 267 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: when you're hiding from the secret police. 268 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 3: Yes, it was very important not to be heard. 269 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: So they had this long conversation. Connie says, basically, she 270 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: got away. They tried to kidnap her. She stabbed the 271 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: dude in the leg and got free. Even though she 272 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: looked around, Kelly got taken. Connie came to the hospital 273 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: because she knew she stabbed that man, he was gonna 274 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: need medical attention, right, she know how to stab, and 275 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: so she they look through event and see he's actually 276 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: in the room next to them. So because Connie's been 277 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: keeping track the whole time, then they have like a 278 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: little bit of an argument because Connie's plan is, I'm 279 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: gonna wait till this man's leaving the hospital. I'm gonna 280 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: follow him to where he goes next. That's probably where 281 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: our friends will be. But there's two problems with this. 282 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: Number One, Connie is obviously a wanted person. The second 283 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: they see on the street, she's done for. And then secondly, 284 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: you know Umicole wants to to help and to follow 285 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: the man instead of her because uh, she she knows 286 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: they're not looking for her like the but they know 287 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: if she spotted following this man, it'll obviously mean that 288 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: Umicote has spoken to Connie because Connie stabbed him and 289 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: now Umico's following him to see where her friends are. 290 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: So it was kind of a risky plan. But Connie says, 291 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: she trusts you, Michot, and she's gonna let her do it, 292 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: And but that also means they can't see each other anymore, 293 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: like like, it's too it's gonna be too dangerous for 294 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: me to be around you if people know that you 295 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: followed that dude, and I must have told you about 296 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: it or something like. 297 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: That, right, because when she initially told her, she was like, 298 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 3: I don't think this is a good idea, and she 299 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: was like, I. 300 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: Didn't know, I don't care. I didn't ask you, I didn't. 301 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 3: Ask for your permission. This is something I'm saying she 302 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: and she but oh Connie, Yeah, Connie was like, I 303 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: didn't ask you If I didn't ask for your permission, woman, 304 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: I told you what I was gonna do. 305 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: Y'all loved that line at her face and everything. Her 306 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: expression was just like, uh, it's my sister. I don't 307 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: need you to approve me going to try to save 308 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: my sister. And we know Connie doesn't done so much 309 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: shit by herself, got you know, lost and came all 310 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: the way back through the zpoch. She ain't waiting on 311 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: UMI code to approve shit. But anyway, umicode tries to 312 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: follow him right so, and she does a terrible job. 313 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: She does a terrible job. She gets spotted. 314 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, she wouldn't even trying to hide. She wouldn't even 315 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: try to like slow her paste down where there would 316 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: be something of a distance or anything. She was like 317 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: basically right on his ass. 318 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: Your dude manage to like double back and literally look 319 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: her in the face like I know you're following me. 320 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: And they didn't say anything, but it was like busted, 321 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: you know. So now everyone knows that she talked to Connie, 322 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: and they know Connie's out there somewhere right right, So 323 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: now back in the Mayor's office, Pamela dictates notes to 324 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: a new assistant. What she's talking about, either the trial 325 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: or basically execution of Eugene, or how oh we'll put 326 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: the security twenty feet back. We don't want people to 327 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, they're under siege. But she's you 328 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: know her, she's in her Hillary Clinton mode, you know, 329 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: just Boston there, Boston it up and she's like, make 330 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: sure you write that down, Max, and the woman's like 331 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: looks at it, and she's like, oh, I'm sorry because 332 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: she's been Max has been working for us so long, 333 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: and obviously Max can't come back. This is another we 334 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: didn't see Mercer in Max this week, but this is 335 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: another one of those moments where I questioned Mercer's plan 336 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: and how he doesn't see what's gonna happen, because to me, 337 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, Max is in back at her 338 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: job because that confession whatever, nothing's ever. 339 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 2: Gonna make that hole or rite. 340 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 3: Nope, and if Max wouldn't take the job anyway. 341 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 1: Right, and she hasn't changed her mind about Pamela Milton, 342 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: and Pamela Milton I think is a type to oh, 343 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: we'll get rid the Eugenie and then get rid of 344 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: Max too eventually, like she does dirt and why would 345 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: you let this loose? Then thread out here, you know. 346 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: So I don't know how Mercer didn't realize he needs 347 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: the side with the Alexandrians, but just out of necessity. 348 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: But he feels like some days he's playing checkers. 349 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, just to watch him go out because he's trying 350 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 3: to follow the rules. And like Niakin told him, everybody, 351 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 3: fuck you. The only want to find the rules. You 352 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 3: see what the fuck everybody else doing and they ain't 353 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 3: not following the rules. 354 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 2: So then. 355 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: Uh, she gets a phone called Pamela Milton does and 356 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: she's like what and then she rushes to the prison. 357 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: In the prison, she finds zombie Sebastian's body dead dead, 358 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: like the skull has been crushed. The brains, it's very 359 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: gross looking brains on the cell floor. Hornsby is missing, 360 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: and in the brains is Hornsby's coin, the ones she 361 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: poured out of his pocket last episode, and like a 362 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: magic trick that made her like, yeah, a magic dick. 363 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 2: I thought she was daving his balls, but. 364 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: She put he left that coin there to let her 365 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: know he desecrated that body, which on two levels is interesting. 366 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: On the first level, it is team petty. Oh my god, 367 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: what a petty thing for horns. 368 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: We to do two. 369 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: It's it so points out how much of a liar 370 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: he is, because he was begging. 371 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: Like I would do, I'm gonna work for your family. 372 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 2: I love Pamela, You'll never have to work. 373 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 3: I'm at your disposal. 374 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: All that she desecrated the body of her son just 375 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: to be like an extra fuck you, because he really 376 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: did hate her and that family, and he doesn't see 377 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: himself being subservient to her period. 378 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 3: I think that was the whole point of him breaking 379 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 3: out and doing shit undercover without her permission, and going 380 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 3: to these other places and basically creating his own little 381 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 3: thing outside of her. I think that was his biggest 382 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 3: thing about Alexandria Hilltop, you know, an ocean side, was 383 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: he basically wanted his own separate pieces he could run 384 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 3: outside of her in a. 385 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 2: Way for her. 386 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: He's like starscreen. You know he can't He fundamentally can't lead. 387 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: But he can never be anybody's number two. It's because 388 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: you want to accept that I'm just a number two, 389 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: Like he feels like he has to be equal and 390 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: I think his ego made him be like, I'm gonna 391 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: put this coin in the thing just to show that bitch, 392 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: you don't play me like this. But it's very like 393 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: I need you to know I'm the one that desecrated 394 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: the body, right. 395 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 4: Uh. 396 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 2: Later, Umico goes to Eugene cell. 397 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: In jail to update him on everything, and she says that, 398 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: you know, like I fucked up. I got caught following 399 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: the dude, and she says, all this within like kind 400 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: of earshot of security, but it seemed like they weren't. 401 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: They were talking quiet, but not like they weren't mincing 402 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: words like trying to talk in. 403 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: Code or whatever. 404 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: So he's caught up on everything, and he knows the 405 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 1: choice she has to make prosecute me or basically our 406 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: friends that our kidnapped are gonna get killed or whatever. 407 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: And he says, yeah, just go ahead and prosecute me. 408 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: I knew that when I turn myself in, and I 409 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: was probably gonna get killed, right, And then she's like, 410 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: it's not your fault, and then he tells her that 411 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: it's not your fault for getting busted following dude. You 412 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: want to help, And then lastly he says but even 413 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: if you do everything, Pamela says, how do we know 414 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: she will live up to her end of the deal. 415 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 3: Ain't that the truth? We don't know know because he's 416 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 3: like it's been too much shady shit happening. 417 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with him because that's the big thing to 418 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: me is like, I mean, go along with the plan 419 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: to extend the amount of time that everyone can be 420 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: alive and stuff. But you know this plan is not 421 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: a good plan on Pamela's part because she truly does 422 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: not know these people. She just thinks she does us. 423 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: But she's soft because she from she from the Commonwealth. 424 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: All the niggas saw they just don't. 425 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 3: Know they saw right, compared to other groups that they've 426 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 3: been they went across in the past. 427 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, the stability makes them think they're not soft, but 428 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: they soft as as baby butter. 429 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: Okay. 430 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: But the thing that, uh, the thing, the thing that 431 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: I thought I was interested here was uh, Eugens like 432 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: follow the plan anyway because he's ready. 433 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: To die, like coward. Eugene scared. 434 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: Maybe when the moment comes, he'll be scared and shit. 435 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: But I mean he did not renig on that ship. 436 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 3: He was like he tend toes down. He was like, 437 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take full blame. I'm gonna take full responsibility, 438 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 3: you know, because in his spine he was like, if 439 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 3: somebody had I would rather sacrifice myself than to sacrifice Max. 440 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 3: You know, even though it was her idea and we 441 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 3: was in this together, you know, he was like, I'm 442 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: just gonna push her out and just be like I Nope, 443 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 3: she had nothing to do with it was one hundred 444 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 3: percent of me. I'm the one that forced her to 445 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 3: do it, so that you know, she can live a 446 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 3: life now. 447 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: Karen, what do you think about Pamela's plan in general, 448 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: which is, you know, kidnap the Alexandrians, to blackmail Yumiko 449 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: and being a prosecutor for the Commonwealth against Eugene so 450 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: they can put on the show trial. I guess, give 451 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: Eugene the death penalty and then I guess give the 452 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: Alexandrians back, you know, their friends, and then they I 453 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: guess they go homes. What do you think about the 454 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: plan that she's trying to do. 455 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 3: I because I know the group and she underestimates the 456 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: tight knitness of the group, and even when they're not 457 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 3: in each other's presence, a lot of times they're still 458 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 3: on the same page and the same accord, which is 459 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 3: a lot of times trying to get back to each 460 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 3: other regardless of how separated they are. You know, we've 461 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 3: been with this group for years and there be people 462 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 3: that's left the group, and you know it mission came 463 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: back to the group, people that went out to find 464 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: people that have you know, they're out, they're out there 465 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 3: kind of lost. And so I think that she underestimates 466 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: this group. I you know, and from the I know 467 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: we're gonna go on. But from the beginning when she 468 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: threatened you, Michoe, I was like, Oh, she's not gonna 469 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 3: do that, like because I was like, oh, I know 470 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 3: her and the love she has for the group. I 471 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 3: was like, I could not see her going doing that 472 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 3: to Eugene and having the conscious to actually go through 473 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 3: with it unless the threat you had was like a 474 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 3: really serious one. And it's also you know, one of 475 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 3: the things for me when I look, I go it's 476 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 3: a from Pamela's mind, it's a good plan because she's 477 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 3: used to not try funny dealing with people this kind 478 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 3: of think like she does that they're used to a 479 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 3: lot of the privileges and the advantages of that society. 480 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 3: But when bitch, we came from the outside, like, we 481 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 3: had to deal with shit that y'all probably can't even imagine, 482 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 3: you know, because it's been so long since y'all had 483 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 3: to deal with the outside world. And some of them, 484 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 3: you know, may have stumbled across that place kind of 485 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 3: at the beginning of everything. And so you know, when 486 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 3: you go ten twelve, haveever many years and that place 487 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 3: has been there, You've not really had to deal with anything. 488 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 3: And so they've had to deal with sucide, with going places, 489 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 3: places going down, having to rebuild and all that stuff. 490 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 3: And like I said, I think Pamela underestimated the ties 491 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: and the connections and the real friendship because with Pamela, 492 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,959 Speaker 3: she is like I tell people what to do and 493 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 3: they're like, no, we actually got each other's back. We 494 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 3: actually hear for each other, like like the relationship is 495 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 3: a completely different relationship. 496 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: So I hear everything you're saying. I agree. I think that. 497 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: What I would say is, I think the. 498 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: Plane is stupid from Pamela's part. And here's why they 499 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: were already gonna leave. Yeah, she could have just let 500 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: them lead like they were packing up to go your 501 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: kidnapping people packing up to go. 502 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: Okay, that's number one. Number two, this whole like show. 503 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: Trial bullshit to keep order, this bread and circus shit, 504 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: if it might as well be that wrestling match, Like 505 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: if it works on those people, it's because those people 506 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: are just basically brainwashed and soft. But in general, it's 507 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: not that complex of a plan. Like you want to 508 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: kill Eugene because you blame him for your son getting killed, 509 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: and you want to kill Max, but you don't think 510 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: you should because it's gonna look bad. Both things you 511 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: could have had done by your dirt people. Both things. 512 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're willing to kidnap people, then just 513 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: kill them people, right, It's not like you really care 514 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: about justice and shit. In that case, you left hornsby alive, 515 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: which is such a weird, loose cannon move. And then 516 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: the last part of it is these Alexandrias can escape. 517 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: They like you're gonna hold. 518 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: Them for a month, Like you would have been better 519 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: off kidnapping and killing everybody that night, because if you 520 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: give our crew, we've seen them down bad, We've seen 521 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: them with a twenty eight to three deficit in the 522 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: super Bowl and come back and wins. 523 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 3: We see so like one person go okay, I'm a 524 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 3: fuck all, y'all look like one person. 525 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: So it looks like you're leaving a bunch of a 526 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: bag of louse cannons. You're just leaving a bag of 527 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: louise cannon is laying around like and we'll we'll. 528 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 2: We'll control that. 529 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: And at the end, if it's so, at the end, 530 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: if you really fulfill your promise and let Umico and 531 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:43,239 Speaker 1: everybody reunite, they're gonna kill you. Yes, they they like 532 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: Carolyn Daryl will not be still be breathing and be like, well, 533 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: she got us time to go home. I get I 534 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: understand why she had to kill Eugene. No, they're going 535 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: to kill you. And it don't take many of them 536 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: to fuck up that fifty thousand people in there. 537 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 2: It would not take them an afternoon and the. 538 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 3: Whole place of being chaos, like they came in looking 539 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 3: around go security kind of like that is looking like 540 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 3: oh everything oh this place going like a lot of 541 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 3: them like ooh, this place is gonna fall apart. I mean, 542 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: I go with the program, but child, we ain't gonna 543 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 3: be here long. 544 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: This barbecue chicken out there, and so they so that's 545 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: that's the reason I think. 546 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 2: Her plan is stupid. 547 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: It just feels stupid and like a thing you do 548 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: when you care about optings. I'm not saying the plan 549 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: is stupid and like oh the writing on the show. 550 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: I mean the plan is stupid in the yes, this 551 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: is what the commonwealth would think is important, a fucking 552 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: circus trial that'll keep order. It's like, nah, you just 553 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: just kill the people if that's the case, and you. 554 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 3: Know right, and it's also one of those things. But 555 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 3: I do agree with you that it is a stupid plan. 556 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: I do agree. 557 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 3: If she quote unquote wanted to get rid of them 558 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 3: as much as she said she did, she would have, 559 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 3: like you said, let them walk, because you know what, 560 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 3: they would have left and they would have never cared. 561 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: He didn't want to live there. Only a few of 562 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: them were even gonna stay. Yep, most of them she 563 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: would have only had to worry about. It seemed like 564 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: Ezekiel maybe yeah, because I think every majority Ezekiel, Connie, Kelly, maybe, 565 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: Magda Magna maybe right, everybody else was either like Princess 566 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: was leaving, like I think was gonna stay. 567 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: Humico was just gonna stay. She wasn't gonna stay. They 568 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 2: helped fight. 569 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: No, like only a few of them wanted to like 570 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: try to make the place better. Everybody else is stupid 571 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: ass decision. So Pamela fucked up. But back to this, 572 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: sorry just a little sidebar. 573 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 3: There no problem like sangents. 574 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: So at the press conference, Umicod has a prepared speech. 575 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: Pamela's like read the words, and Umico's like it's all 576 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: bullshit theater and Pamela's like, just make sure you know 577 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: your lines. Uh So they have like a little like 578 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: tit for tat, you know, a little you know, like 579 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: that goes you know, I can respect how you stand 580 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: up for your family and your people. That's what I'm 581 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: trying to do. And then like this he's doing this 582 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: for yourself. In the audience is a bunch of townspeople. 583 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: Including Yumiko's brother. 584 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: Of course, none of the Alexandrians and people are there 585 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: because they're kidnapped, and we know that Yumico's brother is 586 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: a person that Pamela is using to threaten Umico in 587 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: addition to the kidnap people. 588 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: So Umico as she goes to take. 589 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: The stage, here's the security walkie talkie go off and 590 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: Milwaukie Talkie says, there are certain people that are still 591 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: on the loose, Carol and Darryl and Hans Hornsby, I think, 592 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: and that's enough for her to know, like, wait a minute, 593 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: they don't got all my people, because you know, it's. 594 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 3: Like she lied to me the way she made it 595 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 3: sound like they literally caught everybody. And she knows enough 596 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 3: that I'll not try to be funny. That's like you 597 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 3: got the big joker in the little Joker, and you 598 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 3: like and she's like, oh, y'all. Oh, so they're still 599 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 3: out there. Oh, the two of them can do enough 600 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:08,479 Speaker 3: damage to I know that anything I do, I'm going 601 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: to do it for the group. I think that was 602 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 3: the thing that actually changed her mind at that point 603 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 3: in time. 604 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: And so she gets up to get a speech. 605 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: At first, she starts giving the speech like it was written, 606 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: and then at one point she points to her points 607 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: out her brother and goes off script and makes him 608 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: stand and make sure everyone recognizes him as a commended 609 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: to the community in part a member of the community, 610 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: a doctor, and her brother, her brother, her brother. She's emphasizing, 611 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: this is my brother. And then Pamela doesn't like that shit. 612 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: They show her face and then Umko finishes her speech 613 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,959 Speaker 1: vibe basically saying, I'm going to defend Eugene against the 614 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: Commonwealth because he didn't do it. And she walks over 615 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: towards Pamela and just drops the speech at her feet 616 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: and says, here's your speech and then walks off. 617 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. Also, I personally think the biggest reason why she 618 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 3: had her brother stand up is because she wanted everybody 619 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 3: recognize her brother, see her brother, and if anything happens 620 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 3: to him, people will know, Okay, that's her brother. If 621 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 3: you do something to him, they're gonna be like, oh 622 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 3: you sham you shamming. You know what happened to her brother? 623 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 3: Like people aren't gonna demand things from you. So she 624 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 3: basically that was the way to protect her brother exactly. 625 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 2: That's exactly what I thought happened. 626 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: Like, this is her way of saying, if he goes missing, 627 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: y'all know that the some high jinks are foot, all right. 628 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: So now we go to on the run portion, the 629 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: action portion. So we start with another montage. This time 630 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: it's a Carol centric montage with what I assume to 631 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: be future Judy, but Judith, what could be someone else 632 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: to Carol. When it's done, Carol's in the bakery getting 633 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: some food. So for that trip back to Alexandria. Yeah, 634 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: she pack it up, Meaning the baddest bitch in the 635 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: camp was about to leave, the impossible white man of 636 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: the show was about to leave. This is another reason 637 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: I say that fucking playing is stupid about Pamela because 638 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: what happens next. 639 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 3: I mean, if if Pamela was smart because she don't 640 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 3: know the structure of the crew, should have got her first. 641 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: Well, this is why I think why I say the 642 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: plan is stupid. 643 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 2: It's not about getting Carol first. 644 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: It's Carol was about to leave and would have been 645 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: non the wiser of what the fuck was happening in 646 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: those walls. She just would have been gone. You wouldn't 647 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: have to worry about anything but Carroll. But but, but 648 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: the actions that Pamela's people take next make sure that that. 649 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: Carol will be around. 650 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: So Zeke comes in. Carol doesn't even have to turn around. 651 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: She can tell it's him from his way. He's walking 652 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: his footsteps, and he said, maybe you know me too, 653 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: well haha, she said, well, I know you're not here 654 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: to say goodbye, because we already said goodbye. It's like, well, 655 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: I am here to give you some medical supplies for 656 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: your trip back home. And she says, cool, I left 657 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: you some like bagels or some shit. And she says, 658 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: you know, like Zekiel, and she turns around and. 659 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: Zeke is gone. 660 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 3: He gone, Like it just got quiet. 661 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, this was filmed so well 662 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: and so fun and so cool because like you were 663 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: looking through the bagels with her one second, Zeke is 664 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: gone the next and my first thought was, oh no, 665 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: it's Carol going crazy and she having hallucinations. Was Zeke 666 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: not even there and she made him up? Oh no, 667 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: this is gonna be one of those weird episodes where 668 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: they just make somebody do ghostly things and you kind 669 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: of hate it because they're messing with reality. Except it 670 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: wasn't that someone had someone busting and tries to kidnap Carol, 671 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: which means they already grabbed Zeke. 672 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, they they caught him because he was too busy 673 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 3: looking at that ass and they put that mask over 674 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 3: and was like, oh I got you. 675 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 1: He was like, I don't want no bagel. I want 676 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: some of them cakes, them sticky vanilla craks. You know 677 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying we need to swirl them anyway. So 678 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: then the kidnapper guys can't catch Carrol because it's Carol. 679 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 2: She like beats him up a little bit. 680 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 3: I was like, I was thinking the whole time, like 681 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 3: I hope y'all don't think y'all gonna get her. 682 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 1: And she escapes, you know, like putting stuff like down 683 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: so they can't open doors and shit, just you know, 684 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: like a home alone. 685 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 2: Shit. 686 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's smart. She's like, oh, I'm gonna make it 687 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 3: difficult to get to me. 688 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: Outside, she ducks and hides as the guards look for her, 689 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: they can't find her. 690 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: She goes to find Darryl. 691 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: Darryl is fighting for his life, like r Kelly getting 692 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: an interviewed by Gail. 693 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 3: Because it took two of them and when they panned around, uh, 694 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 3: one of them was already dead. I was like, God, 695 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 3: dary All took one of them out. 696 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: It was like, oh, word right, he killed one of 697 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: his attackers, and then he's struggling fighting the other one 698 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: and the guys. It's a long, prolong fight that the 699 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: guy's kind of getting the upper hand of Darryl, but 700 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: Caro y All comes over and knocks the guy offered Darryl. 701 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: Then they get up and the henchman that Daryl killed first, 702 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 1: he turns into a walker and bites the other henchmen 703 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: because convenience zombie. 704 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 3: Yes, convenience zombie. Whatever the plot needs to do, yep, 705 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 3: I'm here for it. 706 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: So the convenor zombie it morphs in record time and 707 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: kills this man, and then Darryl stabs both of them 708 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: through the head and he turns to Carroll. He's like, Carol, 709 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: they got the kids, and she's like, nigga, they got everybody. 710 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: And they're like, oh shit. 711 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 3: They run out like they piece that together and they're 712 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 3: like wait a minute. 713 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,479 Speaker 2: And Daryl's like, man, they took They even took dog, 714 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 2: right not dog, and they're like, you get something too, dog. 715 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: They immediately figure out these men work for Pamela, and 716 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: Darryl's first stought is to go to Mercer. Yeah, and 717 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: Carol says she's not sure about Mercer when he turned 718 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: them in, when he helped them. They don't know that, 719 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, which says a lot about Mercer to me, 720 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: because he's he's what princes the Prince's dilemma. He's a 721 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: good man that still wants to do what's right. But 722 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: what's right to him is the whatever his job demands 723 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: of him, and that's right. That means you're not a 724 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 1: good man, because you gotta know these things are wrong anyway, 725 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: So they say he can't go to Mercer where we're 726 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: gonna do. Carol's like, I know one more person, and 727 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: it's Hornsby. They're gonna go get Hornsby. 728 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 2: Out of jail. 729 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,959 Speaker 3: And I was thinking, this is a terrible plan. 730 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 2: So Darryl and Carroll take out. Now, why'd you think 731 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 2: it was a terrible plan? 732 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 3: Because he can't be trusted. I mean they know that, 733 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 3: but it's one of those things. But he can't be trusted. 734 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 3: But also he is dirty enough to where I think 735 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 3: that they understand, well, we can actually use each other 736 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 3: in this situation. 737 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: I think he can't be trusted, but he but he's 738 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,280 Speaker 1: like a person that at if you know what motivates somebody, 739 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 1: you don't have to trust him. 740 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 2: If I know what you'll do, I don't need to 741 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 2: trust you. 742 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: Like it's like if I know that you'll go in 743 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: my wallet and take twenty dollars out every time I 744 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: leave the round, Right, I don't really have to trust you. 745 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: I just take my wallet with me, you know what 746 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Or if I don't or if I don't care, 747 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: if you get the twenty dollars, I leave twenty dollars 748 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: in my wallet, you know, and you just steal it. 749 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 2: So if I know what you're gonna do. 750 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: And I feel like there's a way where when Hornsby 751 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: has certain things that are advantageous to him, you know 752 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: what he's gonna do. So you can't trust him, You're 753 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: absolutely right, but you can't, but you can rely on 754 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 1: him to use what he can to his advantage. True, 755 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: and so we'll get you out of jail. You tell 756 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: us where Pamela is taking our friends. It feels like 757 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,760 Speaker 1: it to me a better plan than going to Mercer, 758 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: because Mercer, to me, is a guy that you could 759 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: tell him everything and then he marks your ass right 760 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: in the Pamela's office and be like, look what they 761 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: were trying to do? 762 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 4: You know? 763 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, and you know it's him with Hornsby. 764 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 3: I think that they go, well, we know he knows 765 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 3: where they are, you know, because this has sound like 766 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 3: some shit that he would probably do. 767 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think that's a big part of it. 768 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: And it also like it's Darryln Carroll, so I don't 769 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: think like, if something go wrong, they'll be fine. 770 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 2: Yes, so you know, to me, the only question was 771 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 2: like can they really break in prison? But then I 772 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 2: was like, nah, Darrel and Carroll could. 773 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: Break in the prison in this place. They could definitely 774 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: break into this prison right with their lack of security. 775 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: So Darryl and Carroll take out a couple of guards 776 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: at the prison. They get into Hornsby cell and it's 777 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: a gruesome mess. Sebastian the zombie is covered in blood, 778 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: smear it on the floor, all over his body. He's 779 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: crawling because it's not like a walking zombie kind of thing. 780 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 3: And then he's chained too. 781 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 1: He's still chained up to the corner so he can't 782 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: get to Hornsby. But Hornsby has been feeding the zombie 783 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: his man, his day man. And also Hans has his 784 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: coin and he's desponded. He's just looking at the coin 785 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: repeating like. 786 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 2: There's always away, always a way out, There's always away, 787 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 2: over and over and over again. 788 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, he done lost it. 789 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, And at first I thought maybe he's putting on 790 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: an act, you know. I was like, oh, he wants 791 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: to look crazy in front of him, but he wouldn't 792 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: have known they were coming and stuff, and his men 793 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: really are dead, and so he's like always a path, 794 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: always think and looking spinning the coin. 795 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 3: Uh. 796 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 1: Darryl goes and Batman on this nigga just like friends 797 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: on start like choking them and all kinds of shit, 798 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: just giving him, just giving him CTE like Batman does Criminals. 799 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: Carol takes over, but it's almost like when the three 800 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: stoodents take over, it's not really better because like like 801 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: Daryl was like pulling at the dude scarred and he 802 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: left him on his face when he chopped them and 803 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: ship and then uh oh, Carol puts. 804 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 2: A knife through his throat. 805 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So everybody fighting in the man, it was 806 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 1: like airplane where they all take turns slapping that person. 807 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: It's like, no, I got it, slap hey, get a 808 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: hold of yourself, get yourself together. No, I've got to 809 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: tell you my turn. Slap hey, man, what are you doing? 810 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: You're going crazy? 811 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 2: Slap you know that. It felt like that, But she 812 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 2: does get him. 813 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: To come back to reality for a second, and he 814 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: because she's like, listen, we either got to kill you. 815 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 2: Or you gotta come with us. 816 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: We can't let you be alive that of we've been here, 817 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: so come back to reality and tell us where our 818 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,439 Speaker 1: friends are dead. 819 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 2: He's like, I'll show you where they are. 820 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: He's like, y'all don't trust me anyway, so let me 821 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: show y'all where your friends are. And that way y'all 822 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 1: maket like, take me out here instead of killing me 823 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: right now, because in his mind, if I tell you 824 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 1: where they are, we'll stop y'all from killing me. I agreed, 825 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: So he says, I know a way out of this thing. 826 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: He gets he's so he's back in the game. He's 827 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: paying attention again, these hornsby again. He has an ankle 828 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: monitor on, but it's not like what we have where 829 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: it tracks your location. It just sends radio signals that 830 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 1: someone has escaped their cell and it goes off as 831 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: soon as you escape yourself. So he's like, Daryl goes 832 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 1: to cut it off, and Hawsey says, you're gonna have 833 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: to cut off my leg, to which you know, of course, 834 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: Daryl's like, that ain't no problem, but Hornsey's like, and 835 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: then what y'all gonna carry me? 836 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 3: So The's like, Carol says, well, you better run fast, right, 837 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 3: don't be fucking around. 838 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 2: So then. 839 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: Uh, he says, all right, I just need to do 840 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 1: one thing first, and we see later the one thing 841 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: was crushing Sebastian skull. Even though Daryl killed Designbie just 842 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: stabbed it in the head one time. But he crushes 843 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: the skull leaving and then puts his coin in the 844 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: brain matter, just gross as hell, and. 845 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 2: Pet teene petee to the fullest. 846 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,439 Speaker 1: So as they're escaping, they getting to shoot out, Darryl 847 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 1: stays back to shoot the guards, meaning Carol and Hornsby 848 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: have to run out on their own. Carol doesn't want 849 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: to leave them, but you know, Darrel's like, I'm gonna 850 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: be fine. You just you know, you go, And we 851 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 1: know he will be fine because it's Darryl, but also, 852 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: you know, I think the show wants just that. 853 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 2: See Carol and Hornsby alone and he's a dangerous figure. 854 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 2: What will he do toward Carrol? 855 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: Will he try to overpower her, try to escape, try 856 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: to think he can reverse psychology her or something, because 857 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 1: he don't really know her either. And so outside the walls, 858 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: Carolyn Hornsby are walking and he tries a sweet talker. 859 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 2: He's like, oh, man, the way you was killing them people. 860 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 2: Oh you're so smart. 861 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: See that's the thing you special. You ten steps ahead 862 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: of everybody. That's all I like about you. 863 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 2: That's what makes you so dope. 864 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 3: He was he was talking too much because she she 865 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 3: put that gun out, like like, I will blow your 866 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 3: fucking brains out. The fuck is this all this goddamn talking? 867 00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 2: What's wrong with you? 868 00:43:59,040 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: Sir? 869 00:43:59,440 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? 870 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 2: He said, who else could have deal what you did? 871 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:02,720 Speaker 2: I hope Daryl's okay. 872 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 5: You know. 873 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: That's when she pulls her gun out and points it 874 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 1: at him, basically like niggas stopped playing. You know, you 875 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: don't think you don't even give a fuck about Darryl, 876 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: so don't even try that bullshit on me. He's like, what, 877 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 1: maybe I'm just not operating a full capacity because I 878 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,919 Speaker 1: went through a traumatic ordeal. I fed my my man 879 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: to my son, my boss's son. And she's like, nah, 880 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: don't like, stop trying to fucking sweet talk to me 881 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: or whatever the fuck, Just show me where we need 882 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: to go. And finally he's like, well shoot me then 883 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: you know, fuck good luck finding your friends. But before 884 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: they got a conversation, they see a caravan a soldiers 885 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: security guys on their vehicles and they're patrolling for them, 886 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 1: and so Hornsby was like, I know a secret way 887 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: we can escape, but you just gotta trust me. And 888 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 1: she hesitates at first, but then basically like, fuck it. 889 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: What other they're gonna find us and we stay in 890 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:57,879 Speaker 1: the field? 891 00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 2: What other choice do I have? 892 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 3: Right? And basically it's like a pathway that they don't use. 893 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 3: Anyone's almost decommissioned because they were saying how it was 894 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,479 Speaker 3: so unstable and had a few collapses, so don't nobody 895 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 3: even go the pathway? 896 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 4: Right? 897 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: It looks like a like almost like a cave or 898 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 1: a big sewer or something. And inside of it he 899 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: does another like rounder trying to talk talk his way 900 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: ingratiate himself, but he also brings up a valid question 901 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: that I believe he doesn't care about, which is, Okay, 902 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 1: y'all take out Pamela Milton and the leadership of the Commonwealth, 903 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 1: then what what y'all gonna do with the fifty thousand 904 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 1: people that live here? 905 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 2: And she's like, I don't know, I don't know them. 906 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 2: My last name is Bennett. I'm not in it. 907 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 1: She's like, not my problem, sir, And he's like what 908 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: about the kids then, And we know Carol do love 909 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: the kids though, so she goes quiet, but she doesn't 910 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: like answer him or not answer him. I wondered if 911 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: this is his bid to run the commonwealth, Like this 912 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: is him doing this thing again where I'm gonna help y'all, 913 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be and I'm gonna be that. But really 914 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 1: he won't ever be happy until he's ruling the commonwealth. 915 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 2: That is basically a tyrant, you know. 916 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: And you know, he's like, somebody need to help the 917 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 1: kids and all this stuff, and she's basically, I'm not 918 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: talking about thinking about all that. 919 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 2: Then a smell is so bad it basically makes everybody 920 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 2: shut up. He looks up. There's skin from a walker 921 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 2: sitting on like a. 922 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: Just a suitcase or something. Just skin, just just walker skin. 923 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 1: And it didn't look like the whisper or mask. It's 924 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,439 Speaker 1: like an actual just the skin of a walker fell 925 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:41,800 Speaker 1: off or something. And they end up getting into a 926 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: basically a scuffle with zombies. One of them grabs Hornsby's leg, no, 927 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: and and it doesn't bite him, but he just can't 928 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: get loose and he starts yelling because he's not like them, 929 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: you know, about. 930 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 3: That life, which drowns more out right. 931 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 1: And so then Carol ends up having a fight off 932 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,479 Speaker 1: some of the walkers and I And of course they've 933 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 1: now already added an element of fear to the show 934 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 1: that wasn't there last week, which is now that I 935 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: know variant walkers exists, I'm looking at the walkers close 936 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: to be like, did that walker fucking slap her hand 937 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: away or did it like, you know, like is that 938 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 1: walker going for her gun? I don't know, but these 939 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 1: were just regular walkers the scene. But he gets loose 940 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: from the walker that grabs his leg disappears. Carrol's flashlight 941 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 1: falls down like another part of the cave. Carol pulls 942 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 1: out her gun, shoots a bunch of zombies in the face, 943 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: struggles with fighting the last. 944 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 3: One Hornsby, and his skin started peeling. 945 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: I was gonna get Yeah, Hornsby has the flashlight that 946 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: Carol dropped, but he's way in the back. 947 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 2: He got her back and. 948 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 3: He's like, I'm way back here, I'm shining in the light. 949 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,879 Speaker 3: He started shining light. She was like the hell. 950 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: He was like, I just want you to see, right, 951 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 1: And so she goes to rip the like fight, struggle, fight, 952 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 1: to zombie. She goes to like rip at the zombie 953 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,479 Speaker 1: to push it off for her, and its skin comes 954 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 1: off like chicken skin. 955 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 3: It just stopped piling cool special effect. 956 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 1: It was. 957 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 2: It was real girls, Yes it was. 958 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 3: But real cool. 959 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it was. Oh my god, it 960 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 2: was such a cool special effect. 961 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: So then Hornsby apologized for not helping, but says, I 962 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 1: had to hold the lights so you could see they 963 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,320 Speaker 1: run out of the tunnel that the walkers are following 964 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: them out of, which is this is interesting because we 965 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 1: don't see those walkers again in the next scene because 966 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: as soon as they get out of their security must 967 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: have heard the gunshots. Yes, they surround Carol and Hornsby, 968 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 1: and like I said, it was, it was just like 969 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 1: a weird thing because normally when they show like walkers 970 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: doing that or something, they normally show the walkers come 971 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,919 Speaker 1: up later or something. But I guess the walkers can 972 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,439 Speaker 1: hit something. They just turned took a left and didn't 973 00:48:59,440 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 1: follow Carrol. 974 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 3: I was like, who too far, I'm tired, all right, 975 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 3: I'm taking that, guys. 976 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 2: So then. 977 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 1: The these are dirty cops, like these security people. Mercer's 978 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: not around, and I don't know if it's pavolous people. 979 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 2: They just lazy. 980 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,320 Speaker 1: But they was like radio in to the tower that 981 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 1: we found Hornsby and Carroll, and they put up a 982 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: fight and they got killed in the resistance and I 983 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: was like, damn, they just gonna kill him. But of 984 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 1: course before they can do that, my man Darryl pulls 985 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 1: up and kills a bunch. 986 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 2: Of them from behind because he was the trucks. Yeah, 987 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 2: you know here, my man Darryl. They we knew he 988 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,279 Speaker 2: was gonna be fine when he said go without me. 989 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 1: He'll come up. He'll be catching up to you when 990 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,359 Speaker 1: you need them. So yeah, he may not came when 991 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 1: you need it, but he was on time and shot. 992 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,479 Speaker 2: Them motherfucking security people. 993 00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 3: Yes he did. 994 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 2: After they shoot the security people, Darrel joins the crew. 995 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 1: Dall sees that there's only two people guarding this structure 996 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: where maybe they're planning on holding up for the night 997 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: or something, or you know, I don't think they thought 998 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 1: that people were there, because horns be still alive. And 999 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 1: he's like, okay, so your people ain't down there. 1000 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:17,720 Speaker 2: Your people. 1001 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:18,800 Speaker 5: I know. 1002 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 2: The path like the path forks off a couple of ways, 1003 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 2: but it goes to our. 1004 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:31,280 Speaker 1: Train Commonwealth is building a train, laying tracks and stuff 1005 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: so that the working train will connect all the communities together, 1006 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 1: making the Commonwealth's reach grow bigger and bigger. That's the 1007 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,799 Speaker 1: you know, I guess a big secret they haven't been 1008 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: bringing up all this time, right, And it makes you think, 1009 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: wait a minute, people been going and disappearing. It wasn't 1010 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 1: just people running down in that damn house. People been 1011 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 1: going and disappearing. 1012 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 2: Maybe they're using their labor to build the train. 1013 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 3: Yep. When they when they excommunicate people kick people out 1014 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 3: of community, they probably take them there, right, So see, 1015 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 3: they don't actually let them quote unquote go out and 1016 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 3: open anymore. And to an extent, it's smart because we 1017 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 3: let you go out, you might come back and slavery. 1018 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think this is one of those moments 1019 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 1: where they've done a great job of just as send 1020 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,879 Speaker 1: up of America. The Commonwealth is just so America. It's 1021 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: secretly founded on slavery that no one talks about. And 1022 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,800 Speaker 1: they're still using slavery, disappearing people and putting them in 1023 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: wherever this fucking labor camp is or something making them 1024 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 1: work on the train. Now, horns be fucked up because 1025 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 1: and he didn't know it yet, but they was basically like, 1026 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 1: well you you can go ahead and go cause he's like, well, 1027 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna take over the commonwealth. We're gonna make it better. 1028 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 2: He's just like, know we not. 1029 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 1: He's like, I already got a campaign slogan. Uh and 1030 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: then like we don't care about that ship. You don't 1031 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 1: get to be here, get out. He's like, oh, come on, man, 1032 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 1: y'all gonna kill me. And there Carol's like, we might 1033 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 1: not kill you. You can run and he's like how 1034 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 1: and do what like? And she was like, go, you're 1035 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 1: a smart guy. Go fucking surviving the ZPOC outside like 1036 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 1: we did. And he's like, I made mistakes. I know that, 1037 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 1: but I'm not who I That's not who I am anymore. 1038 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 2: That guy's gone. He died back in that cell. I 1039 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,439 Speaker 2: won't make it out of here. And they're like Daryl 1040 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 2: says good, yeah, yeah, he said I make I won't 1041 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 2: make it out there. Yeah, I won't make it out there. 1042 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 4: He says good. 1043 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 2: And Carol's like, listen, man, you got a chance being 1044 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 2: out there, so go leave. 1045 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 1: He goes to leave. He's passing the jeep that I 1046 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 1: guess they stole her one of the people's jeeps. 1047 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,879 Speaker 2: He's passing the gee. There's a gun in the back 1048 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:02,399 Speaker 2: of the jeep. 1049 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 1: He tries to grab the gun and shoot both of them. 1050 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, this motherfucker, it's 1051 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 1: just like the coin in the brains. 1052 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,720 Speaker 2: This motherfucker right here at Hornsby. He's so full of audacity. 1053 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 3: Man, he. 1054 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: Want he wants that man or leadership in the Commonwealth. 1055 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 1: And it wouldn't matter if Pamela kicked him out or not. 1056 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 1: If you don't kill someone like this, they're just gonna 1057 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,839 Speaker 1: be a problem. And Carol was already thinking it because 1058 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 1: she shot this motherfucker with a bowl before he could 1059 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 1: even pull the trick on that gun. 1060 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 3: Right in the neck. I was like, oh, and I 1061 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 3: thought about it. I was like, you know what, I 1062 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 3: think that they really would have let him leave. Yeah, 1063 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,839 Speaker 3: I think you just leave and just be like Okay, Well, 1064 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 3: never know for sure, but I was leaning towards they 1065 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:49,279 Speaker 3: would have let him leave. 1066 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 1: But the way the arrow hit him felt like that 1067 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,399 Speaker 1: arrow might have been in the air before he even 1068 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 1: turned around. 1069 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 2: Like that motherfucker arrow hit this nigga so quick, y'all. 1070 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 3: She was like, oh, we know we can't trust you, 1071 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 3: like like like the second he passed and she's seen that, 1072 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 3: she was like. 1073 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:07,959 Speaker 1: He looked like he was like how about the old 1074 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,399 Speaker 1: damn I almost got me. And so he was dead 1075 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 1: and they leave him in the ground bleeding out. Uh, 1076 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 1: gonna soon turn into a zombie. And the last scene 1077 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: is a bus full of people wearing those kidnap poots. 1078 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 3: When they said they got everybody, I mean they caught everybody. 1079 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't see Dog, but I assumed Dog was there, 1080 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 1: and that's probably just because I didn't rewind. But yeah, 1081 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 1: they basically they had a guy on a soldier that 1082 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 1: was taking needles and sticking each one of them with 1083 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,919 Speaker 1: drugs to make sure they were passed out the whole ride, 1084 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,880 Speaker 1: and we see him stick Ezekiel last with with the 1085 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:49,720 Speaker 1: knockout juice. 1086 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think maybe some of that too, was 1087 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 3: in case people may have been familiar with. 1088 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: The area or something like that, just so they so 1089 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 1: they won't notice around as to be able to get 1090 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 1: back to the Commonwealth problem. I agreed, But yeah, that's 1091 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 1: and that's the end of the show. It was a 1092 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 1: heck of an ending, a lot of action, I know, 1093 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,160 Speaker 1: I tried to describe it to you, but some of 1094 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 1: the action you'd have to see. The chicken skan walkers 1095 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:13,400 Speaker 1: were amazing. 1096 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,800 Speaker 2: That was really neat. What are you looking forward to 1097 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 2: next week? 1098 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,880 Speaker 3: I am looking forward to see what's what's happening into 1099 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 3: the people at the railroad track. You know that's the 1100 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 3: sound or the man working on the change gang. 1101 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:36,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking forward to to Carolyn, I'm looking forward 1102 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 2: to some slavery. 1103 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 3: Carolyn, dere are gonna suck them up? And I was 1104 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,800 Speaker 3: like the two people were actually because the way the 1105 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,439 Speaker 3: team functions, I don't think it would have mattered which 1106 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 3: to you left anything. It was free. They was like, 1107 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,680 Speaker 3: we're going to get our goddamn people. 1108 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 1: I honestly feel like that's the point. That's the place 1109 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 1: where at right now, where it don't even really matter. 1110 00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 1: Uh you leave Judith alive. Everybody getting free, got to 1111 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,279 Speaker 1: get some Yeah. I can't wait to see what they 1112 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 1: do next week. Uh that's it for this week. Thanks 1113 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 1: for listening to everybody. We'll talk to you soon until 1114 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:07,759 Speaker 1: next time. 1115 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 2: I love you. 1116 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 3: I love you too. 1117 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:09,319 Speaker 1: Why