1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by Tommy Hill, figure, a p 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,119 Speaker 1: VH brand and an official partner of the New York Giants. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huddle on Giants 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: dot Com. Here we go on the Giants Podcast Network. 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: Welcome to the latest edition of the Giants Huddle Podcast. 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: The Giants took eleven players in the two thousand twenty 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: two draft, two of which are products of North Carolina, 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: and we are here to break down too offensive lineman. 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: They selected Joshua Azuda in the third round and Marcus 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: mckeithin in round five. And we are now joined by 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: a very special guest, the head coach of the North 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: Carolina tar Heels, none other than Mac Brown, coach at 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: Lance Meadow here greatly appreciate the time. Let's start off 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: with the fact that it's very rare that two college 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: teammates get selected by the same NFL team, and in 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: this case, you have two players that actually play on 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: the offensive line. What does it mean that these two 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: in particular are going to be able to continue their 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: journey with the New York Football Giants. Well Lands, it 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: means that they're so privileged to have an opportunity because 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: so few get to play number one. And we tell 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: our guys that all the time, he got one or 23 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: two percent of all the college football players in the 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: country that get to have a chance to be owning 25 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: an NFL team. And after draft Day, then you got 26 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: to go make the team and do what's right. But 27 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: it's much more comfortable with those two. And then you 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: add free agent m on Fox uh coming. You've actually 29 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: got three Carolina guys there, and I think Antonio Williams 30 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: signed in the off season, so there'll be four tar 31 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: Hills in New York and and what it does, it 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: just makes it much more comfortable for those guys. Um 33 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: Antonio is a tremendous young person. He's a great leader, 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: so he will help those guys navigate what is very 35 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: difficult waters when they first get uh get there's rookies. 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: I want to start with Joshua Zudo because he has 37 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: an interesting background coach. The fact that you plead him 38 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: at three different positions, and you know in the NFL 39 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: they love versatility on the offensive line. What enabled you 40 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: to put him in those various spots and be comfortable. 41 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: Josh is really smart and he can play anywhere, and 42 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: he's very athletic. We we thought he was one of 43 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: the best offensive linemen in the country. In fact, we 44 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: we wanted him to come back because we thought he 45 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,839 Speaker 1: could be a first or second round of the next year. Uh. 46 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: So I think he's just gonna grow and grow, and 47 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: all of it's ahead of him. Um. He had a 48 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: swordine at one point. Uh. He also fought through an ankle, 49 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: so he's tough. He played through all those issues and uh, 50 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: Josh would be the first to talk to you about it. 51 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: But he had a stuttering issue when when we got here, 52 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: and he really had trouble speaking in front of people. 53 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 1: And I heard him on draft day talking about being 54 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: so excited to be a Giant and and he didn't 55 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 1: stutter at all because we we got him some help 56 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. And I was so proud 57 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: of that. That was probably my most proud moment on 58 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: draft of watching Josh, who is so smart, be able 59 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: to articulate like like he would want to coach. I'm 60 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: glad you brought that up because he did discuss that 61 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: with the media when he was drafted by the Giants. 62 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: And as you know, he did a lot of work 63 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: on a national scale in terms of destigmatizing stuttering. What 64 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: does that mean for him off the field in terms 65 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: of him being able to embrace that challenge in addition 66 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: to what comes from an X as an old standpoint. Well, 67 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: he all three of these young guys have their degrees 68 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: and they're all three great young people. None of them 69 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: wherever in my office for anything except positive things. But 70 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: Josh is a guy who wanted to give back and 71 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: and he said at an early age, when I was 72 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: uncomfortable with my speech, I don't want young people to 73 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: do that. Get help and get it fixed, and get 74 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: it fixed earlier. And I think he has made an 75 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: impact in that area. And we talked to him about 76 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: President Biden, and we talked to him about the young 77 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: guy who was stuttering at the UH inauguration and and 78 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: that it's it's real and it's out there, and I'm 79 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: just so proud that he cares enough, UH to go 80 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: try to help other people. We had a lot of 81 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: clubs called and and talked to us about him being 82 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: a center in the NFL, and they asked first about 83 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: the stuttering and I said, I think he's got it, 84 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: He's swipped it, and UH, that's such a great story. 85 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: Don't miss your chance to experience a premiere hospitality experience 86 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: watching Giants games, world class concerts in two as a 87 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: Giant Sweet partner. Limited full season locations are available, or 88 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: plays a deposit for individual games called n y of 89 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: his Giants dot com slash suites for more information. Well, 90 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up the center component because we 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: talked about he pretty much has played every position on 92 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: the offensive line. If the Giants do want to experiment 93 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: with respect to putting him as center a little bit 94 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: as insurance for some of their other players, how much 95 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: potential do you see you having there? I think he 96 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: would be a great center, And in fact, if he 97 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: had not had the stut stuttering problem when we got 98 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: here Lands, we might have moved him to center because 99 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: we've struggled at that position over the last couple of years. 100 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: And um, he's got great feed, he's big, strong guy, 101 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: he's really really smart. So the stuttering was the only 102 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: thing that got in the way. And when clubs would 103 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: ask me, do you think that's an issue, it's not anymore. 104 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: He speaks better than I do. He certainly has come 105 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: a long way in terms of that. And we talked 106 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: about his versatility coach. If I'm correct, I believe at 107 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: times during games you even moved him around within a series, 108 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: which is extremely unusual. Why did you see him having 109 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: the potential to do that and how much did that 110 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: prove to be beneficial for your team? He was our 111 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: best offensive blindman and and definitely the most versatile, so 112 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: we were able to try to if we had an 113 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: issue with some defensive player, we just try to match 114 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: him up and let him move over there. And that's 115 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: how versatily is. He can play anywhere. But how unusual 116 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: is that you've been around college football and football a 117 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: long time to go with an offensive lineman and have 118 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: the confidence that he could take that on even during 119 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 1: the course of a game with so many movable parts. Yeah, Lance, 120 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: he's a special guy. Not many people can do that, 121 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: and you wouldn't even think about it with most and 122 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: with him, we didn't think about not doing it, but 123 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: because it was so easy for him. The other thing 124 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: that jumps out about his resume, you had him be 125 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: voted in as a team captain, and I think that 126 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: says a lot in terms of how his teammates viewed 127 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: him and the leadership component that he brought to the table. 128 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: How much did you see him mature within that department 129 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: in addition to overcoming the stutter. I thought when he 130 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: overcame the stuttering, it allowed him to be a better leader. 131 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: So it pretty much coincided each other. And and um, 132 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: that's what we're We're gonna miss him as a great 133 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, but as much as a true leader. Marcus 134 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: McKeith in is the other offensive lineman coming to the 135 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: New York Giants coach. When Giants general manager Joe Shane 136 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: spoke to the media, the first thing he said was, 137 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: this guy is a huge human being. You've seen him 138 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: up close at personal They don't grow six seven three 139 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: forty offensive lineman on trees. Okay, these guys are extremely 140 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: unique in terms of their stature. What jumps out to 141 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: you from a physical standpoint when it comes to Marcus. 142 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: We have Darryl Moody on our staff who was a 143 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: nineteen year pro scout, and when we were talking about 144 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: who's going to get drafted last spring, he said, Marcus 145 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: is gonna be drafted. They're gonna draft size, and he's 146 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: got lenked, he's got bulk. Uh. You just don't see 147 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: men that big very often, and especially that can move 148 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: that quickly. And and Marcus is really smart and and 149 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: like Josh, he is a great young person. The city 150 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: of New York is going to be better because these 151 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: young people are there and they're they're givers. They get 152 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: back in so many ways, but they're smart and they 153 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: want to do well and they're driven. Um, Marcus lost 154 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: his brother in a our accident right before the draft, 155 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: and m he just handled it. And that's that's the 156 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: kind of person he is. But he's another guy that 157 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: could play the guard or he wouldn't miss center, but 158 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: he could play the guard or tackle positions because of 159 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: his length and as limited as NFL teams are with 160 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: a number of guys they have, I think that was 161 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: another key for them drafting Marcus is that they felt 162 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: like he could play multiple places. And speaking of the Giants, 163 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: maybe seeing that appeal. Interestingly, offensive line coach Bobby Johnson 164 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: for the Giants was quite the presence at your pro 165 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: day and had an opportunity to work out these two 166 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: players in particular. How beneficial was that do you think 167 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: for both sides in terms of the Giants getting a 168 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: very close looking these two offensive lineman in particular, getting 169 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: a feel for somebody that's now going to groom them 170 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: and coach them in years coming. That's one of the 171 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: real keys for us in recruiting is if we can 172 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: get kids in camp because you can actually coach them, 173 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: and you can you can see what you need to 174 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: see out of them. And if you're watching a high 175 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: school practice, you can't do that. If you're watching a 176 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: college practice, which most of the coaches can't because it's 177 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: during the season, I think it means the world. Number one, 178 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: if a position coach shows up or a coordinator shows up, 179 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: the team is probably really interested because they're not gonna 180 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: come and look unless they think there's something there. And secondly, 181 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: when you can design every drill like you want to 182 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: see exactly what you need to see, uh, then that's perfect. 183 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: The scouts can see the pass pro and and and 184 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: the footwork and our team periods and we let scouts 185 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: come um every Tuesday so they can see the guy's practice, 186 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: but the coaches don't get to so at the combine 187 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: and at Pro Day, it's so important for the coach 188 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: to have a chance just to work them out on 189 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: a personal basis. Giant Season tickets are on sale now 190 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: for the season. 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And speaking of the film, coach, 196 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: I think if there's anything that jumps out about your 197 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: offense over the last two years is the ability to 198 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: pound the football and run is a compliment to Sam Howell. 199 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: You had Michael Carter and Javonte Williams two years ago 200 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: and then what Tyd Chandler was able to do this year. 201 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: And the reason I'm bringing them all up is the 202 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: two players coming to the Giants. Something tells me they 203 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: played an integral role in opening those holes and helping 204 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: your running game. When you think of the rushing attack 205 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: that you've been able to showcase the last two seasons, 206 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: how much is that a product of the hard work 207 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: of a Zudo and m keethon. It's mostly them, and 208 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: you go back and look at it. And obviously the 209 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: all three backs are playing in the NFL and now 210 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: with Todd going to Minnesota, but you gotta have some holes, 211 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: and those guys did it. I think we rust for 212 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: six dred seventy five yards against Miami two years ago, 213 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: and and and those are really great players at Miami, 214 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: so that just doesn't happen. And we lad the league 215 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: in rushing most of the last three years. Uh. So 216 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: these guys, Uh, they know what they're doing. They're tough, Uh, 217 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: they understand the game. They're very driven, and I think 218 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: in the case of both of these young guys, their 219 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: football is ahead of them. I really think they're they're 220 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: really on the cutting edge of of what's next. And 221 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: I think the Giants were really smart in drafting both 222 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: of them. Speaking of the running component, and I'm sure 223 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: you've seen this with respect offensive lineman, similar to maybe 224 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: basketball players with defense. Coach, you could teach them all 225 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: the frontal fundamentals you want, but they have to have 226 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: the desire to want to be able to grind it 227 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: out in the trenches and establish the run. How much 228 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: do you see that passion in those two players particular, 229 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: that they love to build the holes and create opportunities 230 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: for their teammates. I see it in both these young guys, 231 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: both Josh and we called him easy. But but both 232 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: Josh and Marcus are driven. Uh, they're uh, they love football, 233 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: they're passionate. It's funny and Lance after every time one 234 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: of our guys finishes the season and we don't see 235 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: them for a month or two, they go work out 236 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: and they come back and they've lost ten pounds. They're chiseled, 237 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: they look great. And I said, if we had in 238 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: I Al money when you were a sophomore, maybe you 239 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: look like that when you're here. But all the guys 240 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: really really prepare for the NFL, and you pull for 241 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: them so much. And the good thing for all three 242 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: of these young men is they have their degrees, so 243 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out for them, they're gonna have 244 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: a good life when they get out of here. And 245 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: that's what we've told them. Uh. The NFL is tough. 246 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: It's hard to make it, it's hard to sustain it, 247 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: and it's hard to sustain it for a lot of years. 248 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: But I think both of these young guys are in 249 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: a position to do that. And I would be willing 250 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: to bet you that Tomond Fox makes the ten well 251 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: a big time u n C presence with Big Blue 252 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: for the New York Giants as they take two players 253 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL Draft, Joshua Zudo in round three Marcus 254 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: mckeithin in the fifth round. He is the head coach 255 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: of the Tar Heels. Mac Brown coach can't thank you 256 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: know greatly appreciate the time of the insight and very 257 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: much look forward to the development of your two players 258 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: as well as speaking to you down the road. Thank 259 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: you Lands, I'll be watching the Giants much more closely 260 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: now understandable Heels. Thank you slutely you got it as 261 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: you have a personal investment as well. He is head 262 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: coach Mac Brown of the Tar Heels is the latest 263 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: edition of the Giants Subtle podcast that you can catch 264 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: on giants dot com, the mobile app, as well as 265 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: your favorite podcast platforms.