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Speaker 3: Let's get the podcast started. Greeting salutations. What's up today,

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Speaker 3: No dad jokes. We got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 3: We were gonna dive straighted. I know everybody's disappointed, everybody's

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Speaker 3: let down about the levity at the beginning of the show,

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Speaker 3: but we are down to business. Welcome inside, everybody. This

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Speaker 3: is the Official Colts Podcast on a Thursday.

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Speaker 1: You've got the Thursday crew here. I'm Matt Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Good to be with you, Bill Brooks, Casey Valier. We're

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of meat on the bone, let's just

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Speaker 3: put it that way. This it's week seven. How in

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Speaker 1: Already. But that's where we're at.

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Speaker 3: With the Colts taking on the Cleveland Browns coming up

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Speaker 3: this Sunday at Lucas Oil Stadium. There's a lot of

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Speaker 3: off the field stuff to get into, so let's just

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Speaker 3: dive right in here, boys, Today we're going to talk

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Speaker 3: about the Anthony Richardson situation. We're going to talk about

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Speaker 3: the Grover Stewart situation. The Browns have the best defense

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Speaker 3: in the last fifty years. A lot to contend with, boys,

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Speaker 3: As my cousin Vinnie, as Vincent Gambini said, there's a

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Speaker 3: lot on our plate today. All right, there's a lot

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Speaker 3: hinging on the outcome of this particular case. If you're

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Speaker 3: a movie buff there, fellas Anthony Richardson, Bill, that's what

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Speaker 3: we're going to lead off with here. We know his

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Speaker 3: season is over, the Colts in ar opting for season

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Speaker 3: ending surgery. We all agree that's the right coll but

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Speaker 3: it doesn't make it less of a drag if you will,

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Speaker 3: that a guy that only played thirteen games at college

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Speaker 3: four games in his rookie season here with the Indianapolis

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Speaker 3: Colt on the Colts, I should say, on the stink meter,

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Speaker 3: where does this rank for the reality of where the

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Speaker 4: For me, the stink meter is very high. Yeah, pretty

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Speaker 4: sad to see the young man get hurt, but I

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Speaker 4: And unfortunately with injury, it's going to have to wait

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with Bill.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's definitely high because of all that we

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Speaker 5: Like this guy single handedly is like just re energizing

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Speaker 5: that is probably the best decision. It's the smartest way

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Speaker 5: but it's also I'm glad that this is the route

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Speaker 3: And some are going to say, well, the Colts are

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's he's light.

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Speaker 3: Years ahead of where he was I think in the

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Speaker 3: the beauty of all of this is that it's not

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Speaker 4: And that's what's that's the experience he is going to get.

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Speaker 5: It's something it's a term we've heard a lot, and

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Speaker 5: You know, you see highlights, you see all of this,

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Speaker 5: And I feel like the team saw in those moments

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Speaker 1: No deer in the headlight looks yeah for Anthony. Right,

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Speaker 1: that's the bottom. I just gave you the elevator bit, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think you know, you watch him in practice,

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Speaker 1: In these games, I mean, rarely.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 3: But I think the trust and I think the confidence

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Speaker 3: And I know Shane Steiken said that he's trending towards

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Speaker 1: But man, that's that is forever. It seems like now

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Speaker 3: I know we're going to get there eventually, but just

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Speaker 3: his his trajectory is going to make this weight just

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Speaker 4: Casey alluded to the before, to me is the poise.

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Speaker 4: It's just the poise of the young man. I mean,

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Speaker 4: doesn't panic. He just goes out there and plays and

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Speaker 4: rest of the guys see your confidence and they have

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Speaker 4: So I think his poise to me was way way

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Speaker 5: And this might sound really basic, but one of the

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Speaker 1: Here, all right, sound bite number one. I'm playing these

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Speaker 1: We'll cross that bridge next year when we get there.

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Speaker 7: Here, Yeah, I mean, big Grove man. You know, it's just,

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Speaker 3: And you look at it too, you know, Casey talked

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Speaker 5: it's hard to fill those shoes.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go back to the phone who said

437
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Speaker 3: at number three, let's give it a shot here.

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Speaker 8: Like you mentioned, just having a veteran like that, I'm

439
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Speaker 8: probably part of the reason why you know, we brought

440
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Speaker 8: him in the building, just a guy he knows the system,

441
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Speaker 8: being able to really really dissect different things, different schemes

442
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Speaker 8: and being able to put us in a good position.

443
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Speaker 8: I mean, you guys see he extends plays as well.

444
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Speaker 8: Gardner is able to extend plays. He's able to make

445
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Speaker 8: stuff happen. I know, you guys have always heard the term,

446
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Speaker 8: you know, Minshew magic. So just being able to attack

447
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Speaker 8: that every day that doesn't just happen. You know, they

448
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Speaker 8: call him Minshew magic. But it's because he prepares. He

449
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Speaker 8: prepares like a true professional, and that's why he's able

450
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Speaker 8: to do what he can on the field.

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Speaker 1: All right, we all know who that is, right, Come on, now,

452
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Speaker 1: that's j That's.

453
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Speaker 3: A crowd of reporters that lock yes with Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 3: And the context is is Jonathan Taylor talking about what

455
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Speaker 3: Gardner Minshew brings to the all f let's talk about

456
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Speaker 3: what Jonathan Taylor brings to Gardner Minshew because we know

457
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Speaker 3: we just got done talking about the threat of Anthony Richardson. Well, now,

458
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Speaker 3: the running game is very much dependent upon the running

459
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Speaker 3: backs Zach Moss and Jonathan Taylor when Gardner Minshew is

460
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Speaker 3: playing quarterback. Last week, though the running game was tough

461
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Speaker 3: Taylor and Moss, they combined for just forty yards on

462
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Speaker 3: fifteen carries bill. How different does this running game look

463
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Speaker 3: the rest of the year here with Minshew at quarterback?

464
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Speaker 3: And how much do you think the Colts are going

465
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Speaker 3: to see that front that Jacksonville presented last week to

466
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Speaker 3: the Colts that gave them so much trouble.

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Speaker 1: Really in two games this year, Well, it's gonna be

468
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Speaker 1: it's a copycat lead. Yeah, it's going to be.

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Speaker 4: Different in the sin is that what we kind of

470
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Speaker 4: expected our for the running game to look like with

471
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Speaker 4: Anthony Richerson there, Anthony Richardson in there and JT in

472
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Speaker 4: there as well as Zach Moss at time. So it's

473
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Speaker 4: going to be different with Gardner back there, and they're

474
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Speaker 4: gonna to do some things different. Gardner's not Anthony Richerson.

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Speaker 4: We all know that, So the running game might be

476
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Speaker 4: a little bit more conventional than what it has been

477
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Speaker 4: in the past. Watch the pass if Anthony Richardson was

478
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Speaker 4: in there, sure, so it might be a little bit different.

479
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Speaker 4: And you know what, I I think they will find

480
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Speaker 4: ways to get the running game going. But as you

481
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Speaker 4: said that, there are gonna be other teams that do

482
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Speaker 4: what Jacksonville did last week as far as play their

483
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Speaker 4: base defense, try to stop the run and make sure, hey,

484
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Speaker 4: we're going to put pressure on Gardner Minshew to go

485
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Speaker 4: out there and complete passes.

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Speaker 1: Take away that interior running game.

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Speaker 4: Yes, take care of take away the interior running game,

488
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Speaker 4: but make you try to throw outside. Okay, throw the

489
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Speaker 4: ball outside. So hopefully you know, we don't think you

490
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Speaker 4: can throw the ball outside, So we're gonna actual We're

491
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Speaker 4: going to dare you to do it, and if you

492
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Speaker 4: can do it, then we'll change. But then that's when

493
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Speaker 4: the running game comes in and hopefully the Colts can

494
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Speaker 4: run the ball then, but they're gonna have to get

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Speaker 4: these teams out of that base package so to speak,

496
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Speaker 4: and having eight men in the box kind of to

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Speaker 4: take away the running game.

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Speaker 3: And we'll talk about that, Casey. But that's all the

499
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Speaker 3: Browns want to do. That's all the Browns want to

500
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Speaker 3: do is put pressure on the outside of man coverage.

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Speaker 5: It's one of those things too that I'm anxious to

502
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Speaker 5: kind of see because the last couple of years it's

503
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Speaker 5: kind of been a lot of that. You know, the

504
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Speaker 5: Colt's offense is have kind of dealt with that because

505
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Speaker 5: of we talk about the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Carousel that it has been here.

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Speaker 5: I mean I go back to when Jonathan Taylor ran

508
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Speaker 5: for eighteen hundred yards there in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: A lot of that was you know, really heavy boxes.

510
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Speaker 5: So I'll be anxious to kind of see it puts

511
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Speaker 5: a lot of pressure on the offensive line. I mean,

512
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Speaker 5: this is going to really test those guys to see

513
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Speaker 5: can you create lanes And it's going to be imperative

514
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Speaker 5: on those guys being up to the task. But also,

515
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Speaker 5: you know, Zach Moss and Jonathan Taylor, you know, kind

516
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Speaker 5: of doing something a little different than So it's a

517
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Speaker 5: big task and that is one of the things that

518
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Speaker 5: I like that Shane Steichen in his offensive mind, he's

519
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Speaker 5: a pretty pretty smart guy. I have a feelingator he's

520
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Speaker 5: got a way that he's going to try to tweak

521
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Speaker 5: to make defenses, you know, play a little bit more

522
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Speaker 5: differently than what we saw last week.

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Speaker 2: But it's definitely something we're gonna have to see in progress.

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Speaker 1: All right.

525
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Speaker 3: And two games against the Jaguars this year, the Colts

526
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Speaker 3: averaged fifty four rushing yards per game. Against everybody else

527
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Speaker 3: not wearing a actible uniform, they averaged one hundred and

528
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Speaker 3: forty seven rushing yards per game. So that that front's

529
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Speaker 3: gonna be there. Long story short, that front is gonna

530
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Speaker 3: be there. The Colts have to get creative with Taylor Moss,

531
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Speaker 3: then offensive line to generate runs yep. To open up

532
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Speaker 3: the passing game, to not put so much pressure on

533
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Speaker 3: Gardner Minshew throwing the ball fifty five times a game,

534
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Speaker 3: which is what he did last Sunday. All right, one

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Speaker 3: final more or one more, I should say on who

536
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Speaker 3: said it here?

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Speaker 6: They don't do a whole lot schematically on defense there.

538
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Speaker 6: They have extreme talent and they let that extreme talent work.

539
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Speaker 6: They're gonna they're gonna line up and they're gonna rush

540
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Speaker 6: the passer, and they're gonna play man coverage and they're

541
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Speaker 6: gonna say, all right, well, we don't think you're gonna

542
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Speaker 6: have enough time to throw versus man, or we don't

543
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Speaker 6: think that you can beat us first man. You can't

544
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Speaker 6: get the ball out. And they've they've done a good

545
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Speaker 6: job so far. So they've been really successful. They have

546
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Speaker 6: great pass rushers, linebackers are flying around, they're really good

547
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Speaker 6: on the back end. So there's a solid defense all

548
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Speaker 6: the way around.

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Speaker 1: You got this one that's a little tricky.

550
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Speaker 4: A little tricky, but it's just I think I can

551
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Speaker 4: get that right, all right, But you got the guy

552
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Speaker 4: from Texas, Sam.

553
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Speaker 1: You're hearing voices from last year.

554
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Speaker 4: I like it, Sam, Sam talking about the Browns defense

555
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Speaker 4: and how good they are.

556
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Speaker 1: They are a good Why they're so good?

557
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Speaker 4: Yes, why they just put pressure on it. They come

558
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Speaker 4: after you. They're coming after the quarterback every single time.

559
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Speaker 4: And that's you know, that's coach Schwartz. That's what he does,

560
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 4: their defensive coordinity over in Cleveland. He's going to come

561
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Speaker 4: after you and he's going to say, hey, look, you

562
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Speaker 4: know what, We're going to get to you before you

563
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Speaker 4: can get the ball out of there. And if you do,

564
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Speaker 4: then what you know what? I have faith in the

565
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Speaker 4: guys outside that can play man and man defense and hopefully,

566
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Speaker 4: you know, interrupt the disrupt the passes, not the passes down,

567
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Speaker 4: get some interceptions. But they're a good defense. They're almost

568
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Speaker 4: leading in every category. There's a couple of categories they're

569
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Speaker 4: not leading, but for the most part they are leading

570
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Speaker 4: in almost every category. And then from the defensive standpoint,

571
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Speaker 4: and the.

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Speaker 5: Crazy part of it, the categories they're not leading in

573
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Speaker 5: our takeaways, yes, and that's what shock you know a

574
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Speaker 5: lot of times when you talk about how good of

575
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Speaker 5: a defense is, it's you know, they're getting pressure on

576
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Speaker 5: the quarterback, that's forcing you know, takeaways, and it's just

577
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Speaker 5: they are a team that is forcing teams to punt

578
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Speaker 5: at an incredible rate. Thirty seven punts there, three and

579
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Speaker 5: outs are it's almost almost yeah, forty percent. I mean,

580
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Speaker 5: everything about this defense is how you would draw it

581
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Speaker 5: up your defensive coordinator and you want to look and hey,

582
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Speaker 5: this is what will win our defense. To be through

583
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Speaker 5: five weeks, every bit of it is what the Browns

584
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Speaker 5: are doing except for the takeaways.

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Speaker 1: So which makes it even more impressed, right, Which.

586
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Speaker 2: That's that's what I'm saying exactly.

587
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Speaker 5: That's the most impressive part about all of this is

588
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Speaker 5: they're near the bottom and takeaways, yet their defense is

589
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Speaker 5: still a top of almost every category.

590
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Speaker 3: Another thing that's really impressive about their defense from a

591
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Speaker 3: statistical standpoint is you talked about the lack of turnovers.

592
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Speaker 1: They also have.

593
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Speaker 3: They're giving up fifteen points per game, but their offense

594
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Speaker 3: has turned it over twelve times, which I think is

595
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Speaker 3: thirtieth so half of their points allowed have come off

596
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Speaker 3: of offensive turnovers. So if the offense helps the defense,

597
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Speaker 3: the defense is even better I think historically in terms

598
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Speaker 3: of the point total.

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Speaker 4: Oh definitely, I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: Amazing defense they've got the secondary might be the best

601
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Speaker 3: in the NFL. Toer guys's point, Zadarias Smith is there.

602
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Speaker 3: They got obo Okoronku, who we saw with the Houston

603
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Speaker 3: Texans the last couple of years. So now they've got

604
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Speaker 3: guys up front where teams can't double Miles Garrett on

605
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Speaker 3: a consistent basis, which which makes that pass rush so

606
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 3: difficult to contend with. But we're going to talk about it.

607
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 3: It's a big game for the wide receivers, for the

608
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Speaker 3: Colts to win on the outside, to get that ball

609
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Speaker 3: out fast from Gardner Minshew to close out the podcast. Boys,

610
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Speaker 3: it feels this might be a bad metaphor, but it

611
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Speaker 3: feels like the Colts shoe has come untied a little bit,

612
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Speaker 3: like it was really you know.

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Speaker 1: After that Tennessee game.

614
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Speaker 3: Everything was nice and tight, and you you know, you

615
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 3: could feel like you could do a bunch of agilities.

616
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Speaker 3: You could, you know, run some lines back and forth.

617
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Speaker 3: You know, Bill, you know what I'm talking about. Back

618
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Speaker 3: in the day, you had those shoelaces, those cleats laced

619
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Speaker 3: up pretty good, But it just feels like, right, the

620
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Speaker 3: Jacksonville loss, uh, the Anthony Richardson news, now you've got

621
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Speaker 3: the Grovers news, kind of feels like the shoe has come.

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Speaker 1: Untied a little bit.

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Speaker 3: There's eleven games to go, no need to take that

624
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 3: shoe off, but just let's just relace that bad boy.

625
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: Let's just get that thing back on nice and tight.

626
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Speaker 3: So give me, how would you retie this shoe or

627
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 3: your keys to the game for the Colts to bounce

628
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: back and get a huge win against the Cleveland Browns, who,

629
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Speaker 3: like we talked about, boast a historic defense at least

630
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Speaker 3: through five games here.

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Speaker 4: Well as a team, and first of all, you're gonna

632
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: have to come together because of the things that have

633
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 4: happened with the team thus far this week with Grover

634
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Speaker 4: Stewart and the news about Anthony Richardson. Come together the

635
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 4: team first of all. And then from an actually schematic

636
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 4: standpoint out there on the football field, I woul said,

637
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 4: from an offensive standpoint, they need to make sure they

638
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 4: run the ball.

639
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Speaker 1: We have to run the ball.

640
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Speaker 4: And have to be successful in the red zone, get

641
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Speaker 4: ahead of the Cleveland Browns. As good as they are

642
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Speaker 4: on defense, they're not as good on offense as far

643
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Speaker 4: as scoring points and moving the ball down the field.

644
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Speaker 4: And I said scoring points, so hopefully you get to

645
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Speaker 4: have them, make them play from behind and play catch up,

646
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 4: and from a a defensive standpoint, just hopefully make make

647
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 4: sure that you could get some turnovers, get some turnolds

648
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 4: on Cleveland Browns, get the ball back to the offense

649
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 4: and hopefully the offense I'll give it to you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and hopefully.

651
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 4: Offense can be successful and in the red zone and

652
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 4: score some points.

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Speaker 2: And that's over there.

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Speaker 5: Tie a little bit, but no, I think for me,

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Speaker 5: it starts defensively because I think we've talked about how

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Speaker 5: good the Browns defense is. So offensively they've got they've

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Speaker 5: got a lot on their plate. So I think defensively,

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Speaker 5: this is the game where the defense has to step

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Speaker 5: up and really show their will, show.

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Speaker 2: Who they are.

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Speaker 5: And and that starts with you talk about how three

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Speaker 5: phases win a football game. I think special teams in

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Speaker 5: defense are key. I think making sure that you're not

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Speaker 5: allowing short fields offensively for the for the Browns offense,

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Speaker 5: and defensively making them, you know, keep them behind the chains,

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Speaker 5: force them into those turnovers, tight plays so that you're

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Speaker 5: putting your offense in short fields, I think that's.

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Speaker 3: The go to make them go the long way on

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Speaker 3: the field, make them punts are so.

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Speaker 1: Much better than field position.

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Speaker 5: I think field position in this game is going to

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Speaker 5: be so important. Like we mentioned it last week, how

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Speaker 5: time I said time possession, the Colts win time possession

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Speaker 5: outside of the turnovers, I think they win. The Colts

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Speaker 5: won time possession, it was just they gave the jag

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Speaker 5: so many opportunities with the turnovers. I think if you

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Speaker 5: can limit that field position for me, and this one

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Speaker 5: is so big because we talk about how great the

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Speaker 5: Browns defense is, that offense they haven't quite hit that stride.

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Speaker 7: Ya.

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Speaker 5: They've got some playmakers on their team, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 5: but they are they aren't really connecting on all cylinders.

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Speaker 5: So if you continue to put them in tough spots,

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Speaker 5: I think that's where you're really going to see the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: To be in the game.

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Speaker 1: League.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's really hard to win a football game

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Speaker 3: with two hundred and thirty three yards of offense and

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Speaker 3: seventeen first downs and score thirty seven points. But that's

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Speaker 3: exactly what the Jacksonville Jaguars did last week because of

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Speaker 3: turnovers and short fields, and obviously you had the strip

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Speaker 3: fumbled that was recovered and you know the short field

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Speaker 3: after that. I mean, the Colts did a lot of

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Speaker 3: things well last Sunday that got masked with those four turnovers.

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Speaker 3: So you've got to be good in that regard. But

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Speaker 3: to me, I want to go back to what we

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Speaker 3: talked about earlier. You know, Sam Ellinger, I thought when

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Speaker 3: we talked about it on who said it, I thought

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Speaker 3: he hit the nail right in the head. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they are so good in terms of their rush and

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Speaker 3: their cover, and they are harmonious in that regard. They've

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Speaker 3: got guys now they can compliment Miles Garrett. They've got

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Speaker 3: two elite corners. Their secondary might be the best in

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Speaker 3: the NFL. They've got Wan Thornhill, who comes over from

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Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs in the back end. There are

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Speaker 3: no weak links within this defense. But you've got to

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Speaker 3: win on the outside. You know, they're great at being

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Speaker 3: able to get home before you can get the ball out,

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Speaker 3: and that's where the receiver's got to get open. And

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Speaker 3: with that it's tough to get free release against press Man.

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Speaker 3: So I think the Colts, you know, Rick Venturrey talked

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Speaker 3: about this week on Inside Football. Maybe take a page

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Speaker 3: out of the Rams playbook. Yeah, bunches go in motion

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Speaker 3: kind of scheme up a free release. You can talk

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Speaker 3: about it as a former wide receiver. If you can

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Speaker 3: get off the ball cleanly some way, some form or fashion,

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Speaker 3: whether it's your God given abilities or schematically, that makes

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Speaker 3: all the difference for a quarterback to have just a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a window to get rid of the football.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it definitely does.

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Speaker 4: I mean, once you get off the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 4: you can get into your route. Of course, a lot

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Speaker 4: quicker and a lot faster about someone impeding you getting

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Speaker 4: into your route. So what helps that is to do

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Speaker 4: that is as you said, as Rick said, bunches and

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Speaker 4: stacks because they can't play at the line of scrimmage, right,

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Speaker 4: a bunch of stacks because they might get rubbed. I

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Speaker 4: won't say picked, they will get rubbed.

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Speaker 1: They'll get rubbed, and.

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Speaker 4: It makes a free release for somebody coming wide open.

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Speaker 4: So those are things that you might have to do.

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Speaker 4: But they have to find a way to create some

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Speaker 4: separation and for the coast to be able to throw

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Speaker 4: the ball outside of the numbers and also just get

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Speaker 4: the ball out quick.

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Speaker 1: No doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be an interesting game. Could be a

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Speaker 3: low scoring game. It could be a fast game with

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Speaker 3: two great defenses. You might see a lot of running

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Speaker 3: the football, you might see some punts. But hopefully the

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Speaker 3: Colts can make some more plays on third down in

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Speaker 3: the red zone and take better care of the football

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Speaker 3: this Sunday than they did last Sunday. A big bounce

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Speaker 3: back performance might be in store here for the Colts.

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Speaker 1: First of two.

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Speaker 3: Back to back home games closed out the month of October.

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Speaker 3: You got the Browns on Sunday, than the Saints a

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Speaker 3: week from Sunday to close.

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Speaker 1: It all out, and we're here for it. Boys.

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Speaker 3: You're on the pregame show, Yes, Joe Wrights, Bill Brooks,

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey Gorman, JMV ten to noon on the Colts pre

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Speaker 3: Game Huddle on ninety three to five and one seven five.

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Speaker 3: Case Meister is the host of Countdown to Kickoff beginning

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Speaker 3: at noon on the Bell Tire Radio Network. And then myself,

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Speaker 3: Rick Venturi and Laira Overton. We got all the play

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Speaker 3: by play for you beginning at one. Colts and Browns,

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Speaker 3: let's go eleven games left. I know, the news this

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Speaker 3: week here was kind of up and down, a little choppy,

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Speaker 3: kind of rocky, but eleven games left a lot of football,

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Speaker 3: a lot of football to be played. And we need

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Speaker 3: you locked and loaded every single Thursday, and we will

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Speaker 3: come back next Thursday breaking down Colts and Saints, but

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Speaker 3: Colts and Brown's on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 3: That's the Thursday Crew on the Official Culture Podcast, brought

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Speaker 3: to you by WIN Las Vegas, until next Thursday.

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Speaker 1: So long, everybody,