1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: This podcast is a dramatization of fictionalized events that contains 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: culturally insensitive language and violence. We won't do, we won't. 3 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: We won't go. We won't, we won't go party meeting? Alright? 4 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: What brought you out tonight? Sir? We're gonna keep taking 5 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: a ship. You play our buoy just a two minutes ago? 6 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: Can you share with us? Wasn't an aboot or a seample? Oh? 7 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: You're no tapoo jilty jumpy? Hello, it's a Detective Patterson. 8 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: I am. You're a negotiator. You think you can do 9 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: better than the last guy. You're listening to a recording 10 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: of the fourth throw line call between Gerald and the police. 11 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: This is the first call where Detective Curtis Patterson is 12 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: leading negotiator after taking over for Detective Homer. Look, man, 13 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: I thought if we had a chance to talk sooner, 14 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: maybe we wouldn't still be in this mess. You know, 15 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: others agreed. So what you think about what those cops 16 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: did to my boy? Man? No disrespect, but I've been 17 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: too busy thinking about how to move this situation into 18 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: a better place. Gerald? You still here? Yeah? Man? Is 19 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: it cool that I call you? Gerald? Can call me 20 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: ge all right. Gee, you can call me Detective Pattison, 21 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: or you can call me Curtis if you like. Yeah, 22 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: did you watch the link? Detective? Yeah? Man, I did. 23 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: You got kids? Yeah? I have four? What would you 24 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: have done if you was in my shoes? Detective? You're there, Yeah, 25 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm here. What would you do if you saw some 26 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: grown men killing one of your children, knowing that you've 27 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: got the ability to do something about it? I mean, 28 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: I would do what I have to do in that moment. 29 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: But man, that's not what we are anymore. And it 30 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: just seems like you're making things harder on yourself and 31 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: a bunch of other folks as well. You know, it 32 00:02:55,240 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: don't get any harder than losing a child. Do you 33 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: agree with that? Yes? I do with an ugh pre 34 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 1: Detective that you never have to carry that load you're praying, Man, Gee, 35 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: from toime to tom Yeah, how about you? I mean, 36 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: it's spent a while, but I like to believe it 37 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: there's someone on the other side answer if I really 38 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: need to make a call. You know, yeah, they're gonna 39 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: ask you. Something ain't stopped you yet? What about Jason Martin? 40 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: I mean, are they willing to take this thing all 41 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: the way to the end. Are they just a couple 42 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: of guys that got caught up in the bad situation? 43 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: Of course they caught up. You caught up to We 44 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: all caught up because we're black in America. Man, I know, 45 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: nobody want to hear me complain how we treat it 46 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: out here, because already know how people look at us. 47 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: They think that the Irish came over they started from 48 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: the bottom, made it work. The Jews came over here, 49 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: they started from the bottom, they made it work. The 50 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: Armenians they fledging aside, came to America and look at 51 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: them now and driving. So they think it, what's wrong 52 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: with black people? What's wrong with my people? I can't 53 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: figure this ship out. So you know what, from the 54 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: time that Niles was a little boy, I told him 55 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: myself that you're gonna think different, gonna work hard, you're 56 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: gonna work smart, You're gonna have a plan, and things 57 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: are gonna pan out for you. I guess what I mean. 58 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: Nile's upheld his end of that bargain, every bit of it. 59 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: He was a good kid man, good kid on his 60 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: way to Ivy League school and after that the Scots 61 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: the limit. But you know, what man, This motherfucking America. 62 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: This motherfucker is a monster. This country, it consumes black people, man, 63 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: and they expect us to just sit back and just 64 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: take this ship. Nah nah man, oh, jay, I hear you, man, 65 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: I do. However, you know we can't let you kill 66 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: a man live on the internet. So you're saying, forget 67 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: the driveling, I should just kill him now? No, man, 68 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,559 Speaker 1: did I think you know? That's not what I'm saying? 69 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: Come on, come on, And I really don't think that's 70 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: what you want either. You've got all the answers right now. Brother, 71 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't, No, I don't try to back 72 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: the funk out of it now, Detective, let's hear it. Okay, okay, 73 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: I I think you want to do right by your son. 74 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: But the only way that happens is if you surrender, man, 75 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: and let the fucking murdering pig walk right. And that's 76 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: exactly what would happen if I don't follow through. See, 77 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: at least this way, real justice has a chance. Should 78 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: I mean, every time one of us get killed, you 79 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: know what they say we need to have a conversation 80 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: about race. What the funk is we supposed to talk 81 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: about right. Everyone knows what it is. It's the same 82 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: ship America's been doing since day one, since before day one. 83 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: There's always a law or a fucking loophole that allows 84 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: us to get treated any old motherfucking way out here 85 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: because motherfucker's keep moving to goddamn gold post on us. 86 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: So now it's got to be different. You hear me, 87 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: I'm moving the Golden's tongue. Come on, man, come on, 88 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: there's no one on this call who is naive. Stop it. 89 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: We know the system is not perfect. We've both been 90 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: in it for a long time. Different size maybe, But 91 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: listen to me. I see what you see I do, 92 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: and man, I have to live with that. I have 93 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: to live with it too. But check it. I also 94 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: see that you made your point. Brother, Trust me, America 95 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: hears you loud and clear. And the talking back, Man, 96 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: that's got to be worth something. This ain't about talk 97 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: a little more. And what was that? I don't know. 98 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: He just geez. Terror isn't going the line is an 99 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: open detective, Gee, come on, man, talk to me, Gee, 100 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: talk to me. Listen to this exchange from the kitchen 101 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: surveillance feed. I don't sit them up, keep them away 102 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: your police man. He need a doctor and some blood 103 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: to you. Probably need to get one in here while 104 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: we wait. Gerald requested the doctor for sergeant Place at 105 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: eight fifty two PM, a little over an hour and 106 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: a half after the online trial had begun, and in 107 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: that time span, his post had garnered one million, nine 108 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: hundred eight thousand, one hundred twenty three up votes for 109 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: innocent and two million, two hundred thirty two thousand, five 110 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: hundred thirty five down votes for guilty. And while millions 111 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: of people were having their say online and on the 112 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: news and in the streets about what transpired with Niles 113 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: and the police, Michelle Hayes, Nile's mother, was, by all accounts, 114 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: still playing catch up. Listen to my conversation with news 115 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: reporter Colleen Sanders about this. So Helen, after you pulled 116 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: Michelle from the crowd of protesters and you you cut 117 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: the live interview short, did you guys continue to talk 118 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: off camera? Did you ever answer her questions about Niles 119 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: or get a sense of what she knew? And when? 120 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: I never really got the chance. Within seconds of me 121 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: calling cut, hordes of reporters moved in and they were 122 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: all over her. So I just grabbed her by the 123 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: hand and told her to follow me. What did you 124 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: take her? I took her to the police, to that 125 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: inner parameter where all the shot callers were, and I 126 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: explained who Michelle was and they led her through. But 127 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: then I was given a stern reminder that I wasn't 128 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: welcome in the police's restricted area and told that I 129 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: needed to leave, and on my way back to where 130 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: my team was still posted up, I hid behind an 131 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: outhouse and bawled my eyes out for fifteen minutes, and 132 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: then I redid my makeup and I went back to 133 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: After Colleen changed her son Stiper, we continued where we 134 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: left off. So I know I touched on this before, 135 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: But if I'm being totally honest with myself, had I 136 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:20,239 Speaker 1: not been three months pregnant at the time, I probably 137 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: never would have cut the interview with Michelle short. So 138 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: what did it be? Im pregnant too? I think it 139 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: made me aware that I had that I had a 140 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: moral obligation to look after Michelle in in the little 141 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: way that I could. And the ironic thing about it is, 142 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what's more cruel pulling her emotions out 143 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: on live TV for the sake of ratings or or 144 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: putting her in the care of the same police force 145 00:10:55,320 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: that had just I don't want to say it. The 146 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: reality is the police could tell her more about what 147 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: had happened than I could, and as far as what 148 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: she knew and when she knew it up to that point, 149 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: that's something you're going to have to ask. Michelle. Wait, 150 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: so which part did you say you were confused with? Well, 151 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: Colleen Sanders mentioned that when she pulled you out of 152 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: the crowd, you seem like you kind of knew what 153 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: was going on, but that you also seemed like you 154 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: were looking to verify if what you had heard was 155 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: in fact true. So I guess I'm just trying to 156 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: understand what changed from the time you got out of 157 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: your car, when you didn't know much at all, to 158 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: you linking up with Colleen. While I was walking, I 159 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: started noticing small groups of people with signs, you know, 160 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: and some of them were channing the types of things 161 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: you hear at a protest, but it was still, you know, 162 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't like a mob the way it would be 163 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: when I eventually got near Jas's forty two. And did 164 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: you know that the sporadic protester as you were running 165 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: into were connected to Niles. I don't know exactly how 166 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: to answer that. I think part of me was in 167 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: denial for a bit, almost like as long as I 168 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: don't hear anyone saying that they were there for Niles, 169 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: I could keep my hopes up that everything was still okay. 170 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: But deep down and I think I already knew, and 171 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: when we're you no longer able to deny it. I 172 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: heard a group of kids channing across the street say 173 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: his name, now, it's Haze. So I basically started following them, 174 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: and within minutes we had all fallen into that mad 175 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: way of protests that I talked about as it was 176 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: heading towards Jason's forty two. But it just felt like 177 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: everyone else was moving along a lot faster than I 178 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: could get my body to move, and it was loud 179 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: and confusing. Finally, I just remember yet getting this man 180 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: that I didn't know from Adam put in him by 181 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: his shirt, like really hard, and I said, I now 182 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: as his mother, can you help me? That's when he 183 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: started calling out to people, telling them who I was, 184 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: and then of course calling phone. So when Colleen pulled 185 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: you through the crowd, you really hadn't talked to anybody 186 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: about Nile Chet. You know, did you know about Gerald's trial? 187 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: Not yet. I didn't know about that until Colleen took 188 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: me over to the police. Now what was that like? 189 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: I don't think they knew what to do with me. 190 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: So they put me under this pop up tent that 191 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: looked like a makeshift break room. I can still smell 192 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: the scent of stale coffee from that night. Anyway, I 193 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: was told someone from the department would come talk to me. 194 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: While I waited, I was able to charge my phone, 195 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: and that's when I learned about Gerald's post and everything else. 196 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: Gerald came at doctor was out of the same way 197 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: he came at everyone else walked into the bar that night. 198 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: How's that by putting the gun in his face? Listen 199 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: to this exchange for launch? Where were you at earlier? 200 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: What do you never mind? Get on the floor, Get 201 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: on the floor. So then Gerald makes doctor Rozoti life 202 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: face down on the ground. I was wearing his white 203 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: lab coat, not now, Kate, I say that to say this. 204 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: That floor was filthy, like he was doing construction and 205 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: then everything and so I mean me, President, I thought 206 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: it was unnecessary, But that's him he was he was 207 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: power tripping who Gerald? Oh so you felt like Gerald 208 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: was getting off on the control a thousand percent interesting? Yeah. 209 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: So anyways, Gerald started shuffling through the doctor's bag like 210 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: looking for weapons or whatever, and then he says to him, 211 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: you ain't got no blood in here lactated. What will 212 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: it work? I don't know? And I see the patient. 213 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: What I admired about doctor Zatti's that he was able 214 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: to do two things very quickly. One he never let 215 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: Gerald get him rattled. And two it was like he 216 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: was looking at the situation in the bar from I 217 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: don't know, like a thirty thousand foot view, like when 218 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: Gerald post doctor Zaidi in his side with his gun 219 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: and directs him to go into the kitchen. As soon 220 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: as you walked through, they swing their doors like started 221 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: places like right there in front of them, like kind 222 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: of sort of propped up on the wall. And then 223 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: of course there's Nile's body. It's lying on the table 224 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: about ten tell feet away from them in the kitchen. 225 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: Doctor Rosatti walk straight past sergeant Place and goes directly 226 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: over to Niles and checks his pulse. I'm so glad 227 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: you brought that up. I always just assumed that Gerald 228 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: constructed doctor Zatti to do that. No, you know, the 229 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: doctor did that on his own. And what was the 230 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: significance of that. I think it was a gesture. Uh h. 231 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: It seemed like it just starmed Gerald a bit. I mean, 232 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: not physically, but emotionally maybe, like in a sense I 233 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: guess when doctors at he did that. It's like he 234 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: claimed the moral high ground. So are you saying that 235 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: he checked on Niles. That's a way of saying, as 236 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: a way of saying that I see what happened here 237 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: and I see your son. Yeah, I think that. I 238 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: think that had an impact on Gerald, made him relax 239 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: a bit. Cool. Let's just see I need some things 240 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: out of my bag. Yeah, hello, my name is dr Izzadi. 241 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: Can you tell me your name? Yeah? Yeah, what is it? 242 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take care of you to place, Gonna do 243 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: him all right a bit better. How long have you 244 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: been bleeding like this? I don't I don't know about 245 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: what time did you get shot up? Okay, we're gonna 246 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: elevate this leg and get a turn to get on it. 247 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: Big up. It needs you to lead into sergeant, place 248 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: his chest and don't let him move and you come 249 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: over here. I want you to sit on this google 250 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: but this right, Sergeant Place, take a deep breath for me. Okay, 251 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: there trying out. I don't want to hurt there. We go. 252 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: Don't take good. It should be yeah, I got it 253 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: from here. I gonna be okay, fluids and you should 254 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: start feeling a lot better. But dr has already worked 255 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: on Sergeant Place the kitchen. Gerald can be seen pacing 256 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: compulsively back and forth in the main bar area, but 257 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: unbeknownst to him or anyone else inside the building, the 258 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: next few minutes would determine Gerald's fate. Listen to this 259 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: communication between Captain Flores and his lead sniper, Captain Floridas 260 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: Bursiness one, do you me me that birdness one? Good? 261 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: Nine persons one and on nine over Flores on nine, 262 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: what do you see? H T one is camped out 263 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: in the window. I could save the city a whole 264 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 1: lot over time if you just give me a green light. 265 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: Plan shot negative. But I recommend to kill shot Captain. 266 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: I got this stand by Bersiness one, checking with command 267 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: copy night standing mine well. Captain Flores ran a sniper's 268 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: request for a kill shot up the chain of command 269 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: inside the restaurant, Jason, Martin, and Gerald share a rare 270 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: moment where, just like everyone else, they followed the story 271 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: on TV. I want to thank my pail again for 272 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: coming in on such short notice. My first question is 273 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: for you, since you comforted some of Jay Shaw's past 274 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: run ins with the law, does this fit his emo? 275 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: You know, Jason was the type of athlete who for 276 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: a while there couldn't go into a nightclub and not 277 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: get into a fight, let alone inside a brawl with 278 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: twenty people. Some years later, he's involved in a shootout 279 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: between police and is now holding one of those officers hostage. 280 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 1: But in fairness, this is definitely the most extreme behavior 281 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: we've seen from him. To nothing about this is in fairness, Ryan, 282 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: Can I just say this is completely indicerent. My black 283 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: men in America can't get a fair shake of justice 284 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: in this country. I haven't seen any evidence that Jas 285 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: was involved in a shootout now, based on that video 286 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: that we all just watched together, the only shot you 287 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: fairly didn't work by a cop with poor markmanship. By 288 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: my head, and you know what, your guest is already 289 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: over here calling Jay's a murderer and a kidnap. What 290 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: we've seen absolutely whatever calling a murderer or a kidnapper 291 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: or I'm just at the fact that he's I didn't 292 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: he's a magnet for troub Paralda's character that he's associated with. 293 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: It's a prime example of that. And let me just 294 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: be clear about one other thing, because I think people 295 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: at home need to hear this. Anyone who votes for 296 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: Sergeant Place to be executed is at the very least 297 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: in accessory to your kid. It's the truth. Furthermore, vigilanti justice. 298 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: You might support it, but it has no place in 299 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: our society because it's illegal, inadcurate, and a reckless at best. 300 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: And anyone who can do it's killing a cop like 301 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: this is un American, is committing across and the prosecuted, 302 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: and that includes your other. It's like I said, be 303 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: talking about both of you were personal attacks on each other. 304 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: I really can't tell. Go ahead and respond, of course, 305 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm against vigilanti justice. No, you're not ever speaking speak 306 00:20:54,520 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: continued continue eidemic can harmy black people getting mistreat it, 307 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: beaten or shot ah by the police. Are you on 308 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: my honest opinion? Uh? Yeah, You've been the most honest 309 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: with me, so far, so keep going. James got off 310 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: on the attention. And why do you think that he's 311 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: having his name mentioned on national TV again? Seeing his 312 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: name scroll at the bottom of the screen. You know, 313 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: he loved that, and that's the drug he'd been missing, 314 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: the fame like seeing him light up the way that 315 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: he did, that's his weakness. Okay, and I knew right 316 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: then and there I can take advantage. How is that? Well, 317 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: the first couple of times I tried to draw a 318 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: wedge between Jason Gerald, I came at Jay straight on 319 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: and essentially just challenges manhood. But you know, I should 320 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: have known that wouldn't work. You see, Jason a type 321 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: of personality like mostly lead athletes. If I was going 322 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: to get through to him, I needed to come at 323 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: him sideways first, with flattery. So he goes into the 324 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: dining room by himself, channel surfing, probably checking to see 325 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: what other networks were talking about him. But that's when 326 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: I did my thing, and I crept away and I 327 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: grabbed two glasses and up bottle whiskey. Cheers. Je. Do 328 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: you know the first time I ever saw you played 329 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: what was like like a saltare college me. No, that 330 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: was the first time I met. But the first time 331 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: I saw you played was you junior in high school. 332 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: It was a Southern Sexual championship. Hey, we gotta kill 333 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: that game? Yea. Yeah, yeah, but you had thirty five 334 00:22:53,640 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: tackles in eight sex. God damn Yeah. I said to myself, 335 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: I said, this kid, Ray, he's going, He's going all 336 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: the way. He's the best I've ever seen. I mean, 337 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: God gave you everything man, size, athleticism, speed, quickness. Yo. 338 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: I had halfback then too. Yeah. I think you blocked 339 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: field goal that game. Yeah yeah, and that win no 340 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: bullshit as long snopper kicker either. They both ended up 341 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: going d one. Hey, sure, did I remember? You know 342 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: what my scaluting report. I had the longest list of 343 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: positives for you that I had for any other player 344 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: and that I've ever scalted. But it was just just 345 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: one negative. All right? But I mean, don't sue we Okay, 346 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: what's really need was more of a question. Okay, what 347 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: was that canny escape the hood? Yeah? I wrote that 348 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: down and twenty five years later, James here we are. 349 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: Keep listening to Jase, gotta listen to me. You and 350 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: I are supposed to be in this mess, like this 351 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: is my fight like you have so much going for you, 352 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: like the people love you. Man, you got the tol 353 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: package could looks, charisma and and and this rest of 354 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: one thing that you're trying to do. I really believe 355 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen, Like I'm top seeing a chain of 356 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: them ships the chase and order for that to happened, Man, 357 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: we ever got to get out of here first, do 358 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: you do you hear me? And I'm willing to bet you. 359 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm willing to bet you that if you want to 360 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: pick up that phone right now, and if you were saying, hey, listen, 361 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: this is Jay Shaw and I want one of the 362 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: situation got at least we'd be on record as not 363 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: being part of the kidnapping. I mean, no, no body 364 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: where I see it. There's no way any part of it. 365 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: Like you said, I'm the one who dragged the copy 366 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: in here. Yes I know, but like they this is 367 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: some over the panic and you were cold serve for 368 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: a safety. But now, man, I can't do that that 369 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: and that again he deserves better than that one, Jason. 370 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta help me understand something that, for 371 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: the life of me, I just cannot figure out in 372 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: all my years of representing players that came from nothing 373 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: and ended up going to the league, they always had 374 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: someone they owned and and in ten of times out 375 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: of ten that was just some bullshit mind fun that 376 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: people who didn't have ship put on somebody they knew 377 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: was gonna make it, and the one that didn't break free, man, 378 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: they ended up right back where they started or worse. So, Chase, 379 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is, you don't know anybody anything, and 380 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: nobody owes you, but I don't they expect you to 381 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: understand this ship because you just from will we hey 382 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: like almost second? Backup, back up? What did you mean 383 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 1: about when you said again you said you can't do 384 00:25:52,800 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: that to cheat again? What happened first time? What I'm 385 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: about to tell you, I ain't told me right, So 386 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: the stage between us what I'm saying, of course, not 387 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: fucking word. Not worried man. When me and Gerald was 388 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: kids sixteen and seventeen, right around the Hounds age, I 389 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: was out there. If you thought I was a beast 390 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: on the field, and you should have seen being in 391 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: the streets though fighting the other of drugs. I ain't 392 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: had no pause button at all. So that little thing 393 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: that you wrote about me and your little Scott report. 394 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: Can I escape to the little brother Beal? Question was 395 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: cut to the whold escaped me? Anyway? I pressured you know, 396 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: Gerald to do this smashing Red Roby with me and Andy. 397 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, when I say pressure, it's not like 398 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: she was a quiet or nothing like that. He just 399 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: thought that the ship was a bit risky. But I 400 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: convinced him. So anybody, look, we do a damn thing 401 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: and came up with about ten thousand dollars went the 402 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: merchandise through its go back cop jam. You ever said 403 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: he need to talk, but I refused to say anything 404 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: today until I had my lawyer on the Dame years. 405 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: I ain't got no lawyer, right, But I did have 406 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: a football coach who really wanted me to go to 407 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: his album about it for college. See, they promised him 408 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: a job as defensive head coach if he could bring 409 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: me go to the tickets. So I was his dad. 410 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: So anybody my coach since this high power to turney 411 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 1: down to the police station. The guy works his magic, 412 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: we make a deal, right, My charges could clear all 413 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: I gotta do. It's snitch on the guy who playing 414 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: the robbery. But you can't like with the snitch on yourself, 415 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: so jarals, Yeah, he sitch on genals. There it was 416 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: get my name clear, go to a four year university, 417 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: go professionally, mens and dollars. Hey, Gerald, he gets three 418 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: years judy, one state as an adult. So learn. When 419 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: I say not again, I mean not again, Jesson, I 420 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: hear you. I do. But the past is the past, 421 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: and the fact of the matter is it's probably better 422 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: for general that we take him down as opposed to 423 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: the police. What I need to know from you right 424 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: now is if there's an opportunity for this to end, 425 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: are you with me? As Dr Zati joins Gerald in 426 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: the main bar area from kitchen, we see Jason Martin 427 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: also enter from the dining room. Is he going to live? 428 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how much time, brother, how much Look 429 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: he's sticks. He has to get to the hospital. That's 430 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: what it's about. It's up time. How much time? Four 431 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: hours to give or take more than enough time? Okay, 432 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: you can go now. Joe crosses from where he was 433 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: standing by the window over to the bar. Meanwhile, doctor 434 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: Azotti continues to press his point. Look, look, look, look, 435 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: if you see any signs of him getting dizzy or 436 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: pale or anything like that. You need to call me 437 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: back in here. Okay. As Doctor Azotti urges Gerald Jason 438 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: Martin to keep a watchful eye over sergeant places condition, 439 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: he sort of backs into the same spot in the 440 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: window that Gerald had been camping out in just prior. 441 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: Now here's why that's important. The police sniper still has 442 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: his scope trained on that same spot, only now the 443 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: silhouette he's tracking doesn't belong to Gerald, it's Dr Azotti. 444 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: When Captain Flora has told me that it was a 445 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: kill shot on Gerald, but not a clean shot, I 446 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: decided to go to the sniper's position personally Commander Ammon's 447 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: recounts and with the para binoculars, I was able to 448 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: see with my own two eyes what my sniper was 449 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: seeing and what was your assessment. This is our opportunity 450 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: to take HT one out and end this thing. Listen 451 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: to this radio chatter between Commander Ammon's and the lead 452 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: sniper as they communicate with Captain Flores back in the 453 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: command trailer. Captain Flores as the Commander Ammonds at Burtness one, 454 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: you got me, con commander, and we have confirmed eyes 455 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: on target coming in. When we hear target has moved 456 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: out of site. That's when Gerald steps away from the 457 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: window and crosses to the bar. Now listen to this 458 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: exchange when a silhouette reappears just seconds later, but neither 459 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: the commander nor the sniper realized that it's no longer Gerald, 460 00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: but dr as Audi tarted back Commack Kathy for lock 461 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: 'come person, I want to pay to five you Matter 462 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: com Matter Black Commissioner fire next time on hashtag Matter. 463 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: Hashtag Matter starring Amen Joseph as Gerald Hayes, Jennifer Christopher 464 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: as Kate Bell, Steve Harris as Jason Shaw Hayley, Joel 465 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: Osmond as Sergeant Place, Pooch Hall as Martin Simms, and 466 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg as Big H. 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