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Speaker 1: We're gonna We're gonna break down episode two, season five,
Speaker 1: and uh, who's doing the the The synopsis today always Danielle.
Speaker 1: But I was gonna say that somebody else want to
Speaker 1: do it? But no, I did like to double down
Speaker 1: on my Uh, season five is the best season ever? Like,
Speaker 1: is do we have enough Wait a minute, do we
Speaker 1: have enough data to make that? Well? She just likes
Speaker 1: that logan affairs soon Let's be honest. No, because first
Speaker 1: of all, yes, a but okay, okay, I love this
Speaker 1: episode also, so I'll just pipe down. And as they say,
Speaker 1: it might be too small a sample size, good the data,
Speaker 1: I don't. The data is definitely favorable so far, I'll say,
Speaker 1: But Danielle, why don't you get us into the air?
Speaker 1: Yeah it is, Yeah, it is neck Let's give her.
Speaker 1: That's good. Okay. So this is season five, episode two,
Speaker 1: A messenger nothing more air date September twenty eighth, two
Speaker 1: thousand and four. With Lorala and Rory's relationships still strained
Speaker 1: and unresolved. Lorala takes on everything at the end until
Speaker 1: Suki convinces her to take some time off. At the
Speaker 1: corner of Bark and Cheese, Rory realizes she is wrong
Speaker 1: and writes Dana letter, which she asks her mom to deliver.
Speaker 1: Lane begins to see Zach and the New Light, and
Speaker 1: Lindsay finds Rory's letter. Would he leaves Dean out in
Speaker 1: the cold and without either girl? Who directed this? H
Speaker 1: Daniel Palladino, Well, here's what's weird. I felt like it
Speaker 1: was a very new directing style. Did you guys notice
Speaker 1: that at all? In what way? Camera angles, new parts
Speaker 1: of the town. Just I think being in Europe kind
Speaker 1: of made it feel that way. You mean fake Europe obviously. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well yeah, yeah, hard to do that with you know,
Speaker 1: it's like California sunshine ruins every shot, right, So I
Speaker 1: just thought, even right from the start, yeah oh really, so,
Speaker 1: so you weren't You weren't vibing it? Oh totally vibing,
Speaker 1: were vibing? It just seemed different, just different. I don't
Speaker 1: mind different like the open. She's walking. I think we
Speaker 1: maybe started on her shoes. I like it too. Just
Speaker 1: say I like that opening. It's quick. Did you think
Speaker 1: it was quick because we had such a long previously
Speaker 1: on it was pretty long. Yeah, you're right, so that
Speaker 1: opened was real quick. I think, you know, we got
Speaker 1: a couple of good laughs out of the open. She
Speaker 1: handed off the pamphlet to somebody else and said exactly
Speaker 1: the same thing as the pamphleteer said. And it was funny,
Speaker 1: and the apple fell over, the kid in the apple
Speaker 1: suit fell over. Somehow you a couple of really, but
Speaker 1: you know you got you nailed the town and what
Speaker 1: the town is about, all the goofy, great charming stuff
Speaker 1: happening in the town. And there she is walking along,
Speaker 1: And is that our first time seeing the newspaper stand?
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't all. No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Also that people believe I kind of am in one
Speaker 1: of them that when she says, hey, Al, Hey, Fred,
Speaker 1: that that's Al from Al's Pancake World, Well who else
Speaker 1: would it be? Right? It's another owl? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: But it's right that they never go to Al's Pancake
Speaker 1: world right, like, actually, like, go there, I think its
Speaker 1: just talked about it. It's just take out. Yeah, I think, no,
Speaker 1: you can eat there, No, no, but they usually take it.
Speaker 1: But it was a great opening, punchy to the point, funny,
Speaker 1: breezy everything, stars hollow, everything you love about Stars Hollow,
Speaker 1: great opening, great, great, great opening. And there you are
Speaker 1: with your lead actress looking fantastic acting right, a little
Speaker 1: bit of a new haircut, I thought, maybe just a
Speaker 1: little shorter, loving every second of it. Look good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everything was working everything was it kind of weird to
Speaker 1: anybody that, like, we just jumped seven weeks. It took
Speaker 1: me a second because I was wondering how many weeks
Speaker 1: it was, and I think like later in the episode,
Speaker 1: someone said it's been seven weeks. I was like seven weeks, yeah,
Speaker 1: but how many? How many episodes are you going to
Speaker 1: be able to do in Italy? No? I know, but
Speaker 1: I wasn't mad about it at all. I wasn't mad either,
Speaker 1: but I was like, whoa, that was like jarring from
Speaker 1: episode one to two, just automatically seven weeks later, here
Speaker 1: we are. For me, it was more jarring that Luke
Speaker 1: was away for seven weeks and Rory wasn't more than
Speaker 1: like the timeline of what's happening. Here's why I like
Speaker 1: it though, and I want to hear what Scott says
Speaker 1: because I don't want to rush into them. I like
Speaker 1: that now we've dragged out this seven weeks and clearly
Speaker 1: they're talking on the phone all the time like a
Speaker 1: cute little couple like cording as they say, like because
Speaker 1: they didn't talk on the phone every day like that,
Speaker 1: and clearly now they are right. Yeah, it's a tease
Speaker 1: within a tease within a tease, and it's just like
Speaker 1: it's been four four seasons here we're in the fifth season.
Speaker 1: We're still getting delays, delays within delays, and then you know,
Speaker 1: not to jump ahead, but even that sort of welcome
Speaker 1: back kiss, you know they get, they get that was
Speaker 1: so funny that just a just a piggyback off the
Speaker 1: seven weeks thing. Rory's hair is significantly longer and Dean's
Speaker 1: hair it just go away. So my question, my question
Speaker 1: is do you think they filmed episode one right after
Speaker 1: they filmed the finale and took a break between one
Speaker 1: and two and then you guys picked up with season
Speaker 1: five question because also seasonsode one was so much connected
Speaker 1: to the finale, and they probably didn't want people to
Speaker 1: look different. Scott, like the like would have been like
Speaker 1: a two part finale, and they just decided to push
Speaker 1: it to the I don't know. It could be that
Speaker 1: Jared did a film over the hiatus and he just
Speaker 1: finished up at the end of his hair was shorter
Speaker 1: in the film. Well, but here's my thing. You had
Speaker 1: to have such strict continuity between the end of season
Speaker 1: four and the beginning of season five that it would
Speaker 1: have been really jarring if anyone changed it all. You
Speaker 1: know what, you had a really good point we're talking
Speaker 1: about from episode Okay, so the end of season four
Speaker 1: and the beginning of season five. Oh sorry, yeah, I
Speaker 1: got it right. End of season four, beginning of season
Speaker 1: five is the same night that maybe you shot it
Speaker 1: all back in April or March or Yeah. It is
Speaker 1: interesting because season five, episode one can be a finale,
Speaker 1: you know, like Rory goes to Europe, Like that could
Speaker 1: be a finale. Somebody look this up. When did they
Speaker 1: film Yeah, like, this has got to be on the
Speaker 1: internet somewhere. I think you might be onto something, Daniel.
Speaker 1: I think that they filmed it in spring of what
Speaker 1: year is it two thousand and four? I think they
Speaker 1: filmed season one, Season five, episode one, spring of two thousand.
Speaker 1: Like Jared Petelec, you can very easily cut his hair,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like that, It's not the
Speaker 1: one that kind of gave it away to me. It
Speaker 1: was more Rory's hair was longer. I'm like, she's like,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like she that was definitely
Speaker 1: some time be too. Yeah, I agree. I agree with you.
Speaker 1: We need to get somebody to figure that out. And
Speaker 1: I think Luke lost a little weight, Yes he did. Luke.
Speaker 1: I also think your teeth looked super white and smiley.
Speaker 1: Did anyone notice that? No, it's just because I was
Speaker 1: smiling a lot often. Rather chipper episode, there's this big
Speaker 1: smiley guy. He smiled at his sister. He smiled. Oh,
Speaker 1: he's smiling like a like a just a smiley smile.
Speaker 1: Everywhere he went. There's rainbows and butterflies melting is necklace giver.
Speaker 1: When we go into the diner for the first time
Speaker 1: with Lane, nobody else noticed that was sort of a
Speaker 1: new angle at the table. Yes, yeah, yeah, yes, that
Speaker 1: it was definitely noticeable for sure. But it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: Dan has his very special take on things. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: do you think Luke feels about the free wink Winkers?
Speaker 1: I mean he's not there, it's not there. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just need to know what Lane's like work schedule is
Speaker 1: because it feels so inconsistent to me, Like somebodys that
Speaker 1: the diner someday she's not. So, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: like I just need to figure out, like every Monday,
Speaker 1: Lane is, he's a student, is a student. She works
Speaker 1: at the diner and she's in the band. Where does
Speaker 1: she go to school that that very strict religious member
Speaker 1: for college, I know what it's called. So she's in college.
Speaker 1: She's in a freshman year in college, or finished her
Speaker 1: freshman year in cost So this the summer and she's
Speaker 1: so yeah, she's just she doesn't have a summer schedule
Speaker 1: like band rehearsal. Yeah, she can have a different schedule
Speaker 1: because it's summer. Yeah, because she's full time now that
Speaker 1: Luke's not there. Yash took over. These are in a
Speaker 1: Caesar salad. I can't wait to talk about them. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: so Aris had a big scene there. I think that
Speaker 1: was his biggest scene. He did great. Can anyone do that?
Speaker 1: You know how he did the eyebrows. Can anyone do that?
Speaker 1: You know how instead of wink winkers? Oh whoa, it's
Speaker 1: hard having gotten botox in a minute, you can really
Speaker 1: see it, I know. And then what's his doos He
Speaker 1: brings out the pennies to pay basically paying for his burger.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's like long story counting, like who has
Speaker 1: coins anymore? Not now? Back then they did? I missed.
Speaker 1: I missed. There was no Sean Gunn in this episode.
Speaker 1: I know. Oh my god, you're right, no Sean Gunn
Speaker 1: and many opportunities for him to interject. You know, no way, boy,
Speaker 1: you really notice it when when Sean isn't in the episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: especially in the diner. I feel like he's always hanging
Speaker 1: in the diner. Yeah. I want to get the other
Speaker 1: you know, there's the other regular diner guy, Caesar, and
Speaker 1: then there's the other guy. Oh, there's right. I want
Speaker 1: to find that guy too. We need to find that guy, Robert.
Speaker 1: I'll text him, okay, great, great. But also I did
Speaker 1: notice that the fries are steak fries, which I support.
Speaker 1: Are you anti? Like, do you actually st advocate against?
Speaker 1: Do you march? Do you get together with people and
Speaker 1: like pretty discriminatory with fries. I am because I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't love a Frinklerench fry space. I don't love
Speaker 1: a Yeah, I'm active in the French fried space. Thank you, Scott.
Speaker 1: I don't love a crinkle, except if I had the choice,
Speaker 1: if you were like steak, shoe string, crinkle, curly, I'm
Speaker 1: not going for curly. I don't like. I'll take I'll
Speaker 1: take any any fries. Same shoe string is at the
Speaker 1: bottom of my list. Yeah, we usually do shoe string
Speaker 1: at home, but then every once in a while on
Speaker 1: Burger night we get the fatter fries like a steak fry. Well,
Speaker 1: it's not a steak fry, it's in between a string. Wow. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a space. There's people that are very like experts
Speaker 1: like I am on French. Yes, you own a diner obviously,
Speaker 1: and it's a certain brand that we use it. Boy,
Speaker 1: those burgers tastes all right or no? Right? I agree?
Speaker 1: I agree? Yeah, wait, okay, this is actually sorry to
Speaker 1: go on a side tangent, but I think this is important.
Speaker 1: Who do you think of the like fast foods, McDonald's,
Speaker 1: in and out, like shack, whatever you like has the
Speaker 1: best fries in and out easy. Oh, I was gonna
Speaker 1: say McDonald's, but shake shack if you want cheese fries,
Speaker 1: I don't know. And in and outs animal fries, Trump
Speaker 1: shake shucks cheddar fries. But they're different because animal fries
Speaker 1: is like it's like cheese. Yeah, there is animal I
Speaker 1: don't eat. I don't like anything off fries. It's really
Speaker 1: difficult to beat McDonald's fries. Yeah, kind of like salty,
Speaker 1: like just salty plane fries. Yeah. Like I can only
Speaker 1: eat in and Out when I want the animal fries.
Speaker 1: I can't do it, Plaine, Oh, I can't. I don't
Speaker 1: like animals. I've been seriously in my own eyeland blasphemers.
Speaker 1: I know, take this to the people because literally this
Speaker 1: is a debate that could go on for forever. And
Speaker 1: I love in and out fries. We we do in
Speaker 1: and out Burger once while, so do I. It's really
Speaker 1: the only fast food I do. Like it's like on
Speaker 1: the fries stay hotter longer in the bag. I kind
Speaker 1: of agree with you. There's something about the in and
Speaker 1: out fries that cool off very quickly. I think it's
Speaker 1: the setting because they come in that sort of a
Speaker 1: more of a wider thing where it's nighted around them.
Speaker 1: I am hungry. If you get the animal fries, you
Speaker 1: get the animal fries. I just that's so bross. I
Speaker 1: don't like cheese, Oh my god, no, but it's cheese
Speaker 1: with a special sauce. Dippers, dippers in the catchup or
Speaker 1: do you go plane? Oh no, plane, Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: a condimate guy at all. You know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw another French fry in the mix and then we
Speaker 1: can maybe move from this. Don't say Burger king. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but I'm not Chick fil A's waffle fries. Oh no, no, yes, no, yes,
Speaker 1: with the Chick fil A sauce, with the chick you
Speaker 1: have d you think so? I think let's okay, so
Speaker 1: we'll try that. But the worst wait a minute. Once
Speaker 1: the last time you ordered a large McDonald's fries and
Speaker 1: like two weeks ago, justus, I eat half of that
Speaker 1: before even take burger. Let me tell you the worst.
Speaker 1: I apologize in advance. Who Del Talco. They're not, but
Speaker 1: there are they known for fries, the fact that they
Speaker 1: have fries. It's just you've never been to I've been
Speaker 1: to Del Taco, but I don't know, like years ago,
Speaker 1: I don't go way Days has pretty good Wendy's has
Speaker 1: pretty good fries. I'll give you that. I'm just going
Speaker 1: down the list. I'm thinking of everything on my drive.
Speaker 1: But i'm in and out of McDonald's. I think only
Speaker 1: But then I like, to me, a gourmet is like
Speaker 1: shake shack. That's like a level up. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: little different. Shake shacks a little different. You know, it's
Speaker 1: kind of a moneyed crowd. I see a fried bride test.
Speaker 1: How oh, I will probbibly participate? Sign me up? All right?
Speaker 1: So we head from there to the Renaissance. Fair well done.
Speaker 1: I actually thought that looked way we missed something in
Speaker 1: the first scene the postcards, Paul is Rory writing postcards
Speaker 1: to Luke. That's Lane, Lane hanging them at She's taken
Speaker 1: them from home to the din. She's taking over the
Speaker 1: diner space. It's because she can't be away from from
Speaker 1: Rory's postcards. That was random, but I get the point.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, if Laura I can relate to missus Kim. Ever,
Speaker 1: this is the moment WHOA also through that? Wow? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But Lane takes hangs them up in Luke's dining exactly, Scott,
Speaker 1: she carries them around with her. I was I was thinking, like,
Speaker 1: she knows that Lane were there and sending it to
Speaker 1: the flag on the play. Yeah, why would she get
Speaker 1: him at home, pack him up and take them to
Speaker 1: the No, that's what I'm saying. Maybe she she knows
Speaker 1: that Lane's taking over the diner for the sub sending them,
Speaker 1: and so she's sending it to Luke's That's what I thought.
Speaker 1: All right, Oh you know why, so she doesn't have
Speaker 1: Lane's address, she just knows she's going to be at
Speaker 1: the diner more. Yeah, maybe I don't know. I mean, right,
Speaker 1: it's an overthink because I'm good with the plot point
Speaker 1: being like, Oh, I don't think it's an overthink at all.
Speaker 1: I think we need to figure this out because this
Speaker 1: is she's just sending them to Luke the whole time.
Speaker 1: There are two flags on the play, so we need
Speaker 1: to go thinking through that. I mean I think that
Speaker 1: I think she's Yeah, she's she's making a collage with
Speaker 1: the diner for some reason. She misses her friend. It's
Speaker 1: a little much, right, a little weird. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: I mean back when we used to have desk back
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. You would put stuff on your desk,
Speaker 1: you know, like pictures and then but they aren't. So
Speaker 1: their passions run deep for their friendship, right. I think
Speaker 1: we've dissected bride and postcards. We definitely. Then we go
Speaker 1: to the Renaissance Fair, which uzza I thought was Man,
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Michael, Sorry, that's Michael Day Luis Jesus.
Speaker 1: He's funny. He picks up his drink with the hand,
Speaker 1: the hand, get the drink. Ok. Look, I mean it
Speaker 1: was just like every beat of that guy's performance was
Speaker 1: just outstanding. He really takes you know. Yeah, he's the
Speaker 1: definition of there are no small roles, just small actors.
Speaker 1: He took that role by the throat and owned it,
Speaker 1: and he stole every scene. He was in, every single
Speaker 1: scene with your eye went right to him, and I waited,
Speaker 1: I anticipated what he Who's going to do next? Controversial thought.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would hear about Liz without
Speaker 1: t J. I agree with you. I do agree. TJ
Speaker 1: makes that because he makes that good Well, I agree, No,
Speaker 1: that's a good point, excellent point. So the fair and
Speaker 1: Luke has fully immersed himself in the fair, like he
Speaker 1: knows all the gossip. He knows everything. It's it's good.
Speaker 1: It was good that has Hassa was hysterical. And Third,
Speaker 1: when they cut to the crowd, the lead hassan or
Speaker 1: in the crowd was Daniel Paladina. No, yes, we get
Speaker 1: the video up. I could show you and only Daniel Peladine,
Speaker 1: he dressed up. Where is he? It's Hassassa. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: I think the huzzah comes in the different scene though,
Speaker 1: doesn't it. Let's see. Yeah. I think by the way,
Speaker 1: the final beautiful presentation Liz has for her jewels, the
Speaker 1: tree necklace, I must say I give a good Morrow
Speaker 1: to the tree because it's a well way. It's an
Speaker 1: excellent way. Good detail here, Like, I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: at a Renaissance fair. Yeahs, who raise your hand? Have
Speaker 1: been to a Renaissance fair? We did one in the
Speaker 1: middle school. You guys want to know how why I
Speaker 1: had to go to a Renaissance fair? Why? This is
Speaker 1: probably in the nineties, maybe the early aughts, as they say,
Speaker 1: somehow they convinced Ryan Seacrest to go and do all that,
Speaker 1: and I had to go with him to do the
Speaker 1: Renaissance fair, and he had to get all in the
Speaker 1: outfit and we had to like do the whole deal.
Speaker 1: There is a Renaissance fair in LA Maybe it's Pasadena
Speaker 1: or something like that, but it's like a big deal.
Speaker 1: That was the one we went to. Okay, might say
Speaker 1: it's in Pomona, but I'm not sure. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's right. I think you feel like Easton. If you're listening,
Speaker 1: I know you've been Easton. I've been to the Renaissance Fair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Renaissance Pleasure Fair in Irwindale, California. That's very good.
Speaker 1: Where is that, Scott? I'm surprised you've never been at
Speaker 1: a Renaissance fair. Not my bag, my bag, No, not
Speaker 1: my bag. Never wanted to dress up in chainmail and
Speaker 1: be a I do think they have turkey legs though,
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. Oh yeah, yeah, my bag. Um, but
Speaker 1: it looks like fun. Looks like fun. The line that
Speaker 1: made McDonald's all gone, The line that made me so
Speaker 1: hard when you said, I'm not moving the pewter. I'm
Speaker 1: not moving the pewter because he's like, you need to
Speaker 1: move the pewter from the whatever, good whole thing. Liz
Speaker 1: was listening to her Deepak Chopra. Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 1: Tell you you know a t J dropping his renaissance
Speaker 1: fair knowledge. It's just hysterical, totally really great. Then we
Speaker 1: go go to the fanciest hotel I've ever seen. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: as we be bopped over to Europe. I would love
Speaker 1: to travel with the California Light one hundred percent. I
Speaker 1: want to nap in the middle of the day and
Speaker 1: stay in the nicest hotel rooms. Like, nothing sounds better
Speaker 1: than traveling with Emily Gilmore. That Rose was the last stop, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're in Rome. Yeah, that trip was a fifty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars trip to you easy easy take it back to
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. And all she wanted to do is
Speaker 1: ditch Granny to go solo. Comes I like us. She
Speaker 1: was like the pillars moved, like I know, and Roy
Speaker 1: was like, I'm pretty sure that ancient ruins haven't moved.
Speaker 1: That was funny. I was funny. Oh, she just always
Speaker 1: has to complaint about something. Yeah, yeah, I did. Like
Speaker 1: how in that scene she was like, what was the
Speaker 1: last time we called your mom? Yeah? I really respected
Speaker 1: that because I think that I think that Emily knows
Speaker 1: something's up but just doesn't want to get it involved,
Speaker 1: doesn't want to get into the drawing. Yeah, so she's like,
Speaker 1: let's call your mom. Yeah, I know we're not there yet,
Speaker 1: but boy was I happy when that ended, when that
Speaker 1: tension end, saying but it wasn't in a nice sense
Speaker 1: of relief when they connected on the phone call and
Speaker 1: it's like a totally totally I finally got the Gilmore
Speaker 1: girls back, you know, like we haven't had that in
Speaker 1: a minute. Exactly, yeah, exactly. So then we go from
Speaker 1: your to the end and the escue brochures Michelle's tiding,
Speaker 1: which I thought was a funny bit. Those crumbled kids.
Speaker 1: What did you guys all think? And then we start
Speaker 1: to see that lorelize off the rails. Um. Yeah, definitely
Speaker 1: a good bit with the kids, very funny. Um Michelle
Speaker 1: being wacky and being inappropriate and sort of still being lovable,
Speaker 1: which is a testament to unich. Um. Yeah, we learned
Speaker 1: that Michelle is a prophet participant. I think we knew,
Speaker 1: but oh, yeah, he's a prophet, which means he gets commission.
Speaker 1: Is that what that means? Oh, he's an owner of
Speaker 1: the end. He gets equity in the end. He's got
Speaker 1: he's got enough. They made that's why he was, you know,
Speaker 1: seeking other employment to enhance his negotiating position. Yeah. Remember
Speaker 1: when they got he knew how much he was valued.
Speaker 1: So he said, give me a piece of the action,
Speaker 1: which remember that fake W. It looked like a W.
Speaker 1: And then they get him back, they get they probably
Speaker 1: him a salary. Plus he gets, like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: some percentage of the of the prophet. I seem yeah,
Speaker 1: good for him. Yeah. The gut is, if they're let's
Speaker 1: say they're partners, he's probably got like they probably are
Speaker 1: like forty five forty five ten or you don't think
Speaker 1: he's getting Suki and Laurela are equal partners. Well, aren't
Speaker 1: you a partner too? Actually yes, I do think lore lions.
Speaker 1: I agree, But you've got a piece I did. Did
Speaker 1: I even ask for a piece or just give up
Speaker 1: the money? No, you did not ask. I invested, you
Speaker 1: gave a liney right, I consider an investor, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I probably took fifteen twenty percent. Maybe that's what I think.
Speaker 1: So I think. Okay, So say they're at thirty five
Speaker 1: thirty five, Michelle's at a ten. I think Michelle's got
Speaker 1: to be higher because they got to give him salary
Speaker 1: I think they gotta give Sukie salary too, right, No,
Speaker 1: you don't think take its salary. How I don't think
Speaker 1: Lorelai or Suki are taking a salary. They're just taking
Speaker 1: a piece of the profits. But they can take piece
Speaker 1: of the profits every month. That is salary. No, technically salary,
Speaker 1: it would be like a number. So say the inmates
Speaker 1: a grand salary would be a minimum guarantee. So this
Speaker 1: is after they reinvest. So it's like a dividend, so
Speaker 1: like a monthly day. So say that. So say this
Speaker 1: is how I would run that that in has really
Speaker 1: operated like an ETF. I don't know what an ETF is,
Speaker 1: but it sounds fancy. So I would do it like this.
Speaker 1: At the end of the month, you get So say
Speaker 1: all the money they the gross is one hundred thousand,
Speaker 1: They pay all their bills, they pay all their servers
Speaker 1: and housekeepers and everybody. So then say at the end
Speaker 1: of the month they got maybe that takes half the thing.
Speaker 1: They got fifty thousand, they've paid Michelle, So then they
Speaker 1: give Michelle his piece. No, the margins on that kind
Speaker 1: of a business is not good. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: very good. I think it's probably expenses not a good business.
Speaker 1: It's tough. I think the diner runs. Oh I got
Speaker 1: that place running like a you're making time. I'm just
Speaker 1: stockpiling cash. Yeah, that burger costs you two bucks, you
Speaker 1: sell it for ten. Give me a break, come out.
Speaker 1: But all right, okay, So I do like how I
Speaker 1: continues to talk about the randy men that are flirting
Speaker 1: with her the whole time, trying to make herself feel better.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the call, the awkward call, which which
Speaker 1: spawned the greatest line in the one of the great
Speaker 1: lines in the episode Hot and Sexy? Were you wearing
Speaker 1: that hot and sexy sandwich board? I also like the
Speaker 1: awkward phone call when she's all, oh, what a cowinkyding?
Speaker 1: The awkward call was freking painful. Yeah. Yeah. And as
Speaker 1: much as the Renaissance Fair looked realm, the cafe dead Lapin, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was more fake. I was like, oh, I've been
Speaker 1: there on the waterline. Yeah, did you say did you
Speaker 1: see the fake Italian guy smoking a cigarette right there?
Speaker 1: It's like, man, there's just no, that's not how. And
Speaker 1: then I do love when she's like says something about
Speaker 1: the men flirting with her, and then Rory says, you
Speaker 1: got the gams, Grandma, I loved it. Um yeah, so
Speaker 1: other than the fakeness of Europe, which is impossible to
Speaker 1: capture outdoors, give me you get you know, that is
Speaker 1: such an incredibly difficult lighting project to try to make
Speaker 1: it look like Europe. I mean, hotel looked good with
Speaker 1: an appearance by Anthony A Zizi, who's gone on to
Speaker 1: do so many things. He was the I sort of
Speaker 1: thought he was the hotel manager. So we go back
Speaker 1: and now we've got we're back at Luke's, which apparently
Speaker 1: is like we're laying in the band really hang out now.
Speaker 1: Oh and they're talking about their cover songs. And then
Speaker 1: the girls zax got the Ladies, one of whom was
Speaker 1: Aaron Foster. Oh my gosh, I didn't even didn't even
Speaker 1: see that. Okay, so Scott, we know the girls here.
Speaker 1: We know Aaron Foster because she's the Foster sisters. And
Speaker 1: then they started this clothing line called Favorite Daughter, and
Speaker 1: they're like influencers. But you would know Aaron Foster because
Speaker 1: you know David Foster, the musician does the composer. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's one of his daughters. Oh okay, yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: David she's the one that came in back back into
Speaker 1: the diner and said, sorry, we didn't know. Yes, yes exactly.
Speaker 1: So wow, oh my gosh, you have eagle eyes. Even me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just knew I recognized her. And then I cheated
Speaker 1: it on the internet, but I knew it. I recognized
Speaker 1: her immediately. I was like, I know her. I don't
Speaker 1: know her. She looks different, but I'm like, I know
Speaker 1: that girl. Huh past Yeah. I thought that was a
Speaker 1: good tidbit. We'll see if the crackstaff had that, We'll see.
Speaker 1: So anyway, Lane is starting to get irritated. Well, let's
Speaker 1: talk about set lists for bands, because you know what
Speaker 1: they were doing was decimating their set list to try
Speaker 1: to enhance their originals. Very bad idea, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you've got great covers and you do those covers,
Speaker 1: well you're gonna make money. You work in an original
Speaker 1: here and there. If you're really ballsy, you know you
Speaker 1: have mostly originals and you have a couple of covers
Speaker 1: because you have to have You can't have an all
Speaker 1: original set. It won't work. People stand there and like
Speaker 1: stare at you. Right, even if you're like Elton John,
Speaker 1: you got to work in your hits with your couple
Speaker 1: new songs exactly exactly so, and bands that failed to
Speaker 1: do that and failed to play their hits. Boy, that's
Speaker 1: a long night. That's a long night. Here's our new
Speaker 1: we're a new album and we haven't released it yet,
Speaker 1: but we'd like to play it for you. And you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: nine songs from it come. We have nothing attached to this,
Speaker 1: we have no emotional investment in. Well, that's why I
Speaker 1: always use, in the words of Tricia Yearwood, who I love,
Speaker 1: she said, and I use this quote all the time,
Speaker 1: sing the one that's bring you, Sing the one that
Speaker 1: brung in. Its Like, if you don't sing your big hit,
Speaker 1: even if you're sick of it, you are not You're disappointed.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine a rolling gig without Jimmy Shelter because
Speaker 1: they got sick of playing or jumping Jack Flash? Are
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Right? Kidding me? Yeah, it'd be a riot.
Speaker 1: I agree. So we do see the start of Lane
Speaker 1: being irritated, which we soon find out she loves Zach.
Speaker 1: But what did you think right away when she was irritated?
Speaker 1: I think she didn't even realize, like until I think
Speaker 1: she didn't realize until Aaron Foster came back and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm so sorry I didn't realize. And
Speaker 1: then I think Lane was like, oh, that's what's going on.
Speaker 1: Like I think it took her a second too, because
Speaker 1: I think they started out as friends. And then it
Speaker 1: felt like too much of a stretch for me. Really,
Speaker 1: it was way too much of a stretch. And I
Speaker 1: know that, Yeah I got I pulled a muscle trying
Speaker 1: to get there too. Yeah, Zach, I don't mind me.
Speaker 1: There's sort of cute airheady, but like, yeah, it's sort
Speaker 1: of cute. It's it's more, it's more that it's more
Speaker 1: the storyline for yeah, I got it, you know, trying
Speaker 1: to get there and yeah, I Danielle, how did you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like even if he if she just like prior to
Speaker 1: this moment, there was absolutely no connection, like zero, Like
Speaker 1: it wasn't like she was like, oh, I like your
Speaker 1: shirt and then she would walk you know, like or whatever.
Speaker 1: Like there was no flirting whatsoever. So this felt very random,
Speaker 1: random student, and it felt like, oh, we need to
Speaker 1: give Lane e love interest since Dave Regowski we know's
Speaker 1: not coming back. Adam Brody's a huge star never we'll
Speaker 1: be back on the show again. So zach here you go, right, like,
Speaker 1: they didn't bring someone else and they were like, he's
Speaker 1: already here, let's just give Yeah, it's a sale as
Speaker 1: old as time. Though, guys, fallen in love with your bandmate? Sure,
Speaker 1: but she did that already, you know, like I think
Speaker 1: she fell in love with right right, she did it
Speaker 1: with Dave. She did it with Dave. That was a
Speaker 1: big one for the fans, and it was and that
Speaker 1: one was real, you felt it, and they took the
Speaker 1: time to develop that. So yeah, I see your point.
Speaker 1: It was kind of out of left field. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was yeah, yeah, see, we'll see how that goes. Not
Speaker 1: that I'm saying it wouldn't be an excellent relationship, for sure.
Speaker 1: That one was so good. So then finally we get
Speaker 1: Sukie calling out Lorelai like you've gone nutty, which I agree.
Speaker 1: I literally wrote, Lorelai is nuts And then Suki's like
Speaker 1: you've gone nutty, and I'm like, thank you Suki, right,
Speaker 1: I thoughts exactly, it's been like seven weeks of this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: another great line from Suki. You know, nutsos don't know
Speaker 1: they're being nutsos, Hence the nutty totally. I think about
Speaker 1: that all the time. I'm like, am I crazy? And
Speaker 1: then I'm like, oh, if I think I'm crazy, I'm
Speaker 1: probably not crazy, right exactly. Yeah, crazy doesn't know they're crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think they're saving the world. I think they're Jesus right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So again, more excellence from Melissa McCarthy just playing just
Speaker 1: just Melissa is so good. I love watching her, and
Speaker 1: especially in these heightened excited states where it's just all like,
Speaker 1: you know, when she's when she's taking over the scene,
Speaker 1: when she's driving the scene, it's like, yes, love it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Somebody voted on the Instagram that she still just has
Speaker 1: not won an Academy Award. Academy Award, but I think
Speaker 1: it was just an Emmy just just I'm possibly a globe.
Speaker 1: She's possibly got a Golden bug. It was for Mike
Speaker 1: and Molly, But for as brilliant as she is, you
Speaker 1: would think she would have like ten just in a
Speaker 1: cover sometimes for an Oscar. Was it for that kind
Speaker 1: of weirder movie? It was the the film I thought
Speaker 1: it was bridesm Yes, she was nominated for an Oscar
Speaker 1: for that. I thought she was nominated for this weird
Speaker 1: movie where she was like a author. I think she
Speaker 1: was nominated for that too, I think, and I'm looking
Speaker 1: while we talk about the fact that, Thank goodness, right
Speaker 1: after that scene, we get the phone call is, oh,
Speaker 1: she better not be like, you know, Lifetime Achievement Award honorary. Yeah, wait,
Speaker 1: what is it? Just get them for bats? No, stopped
Speaker 1: for the win there. I mean she was pretty thank you, Amy.
Speaker 1: I studied hard for that, stayed up until about nine.
Speaker 1: Then thankfully we get the mom I screwed up. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry the phone call, Thank god, because I was over them,
Speaker 1: havn't Yeah, yeah, okay, Now the question to relieve They
Speaker 1: tied it up like quickly because yeah, would you deliver
Speaker 1: the letter? No to be complicit in that M kind
Speaker 1: of goes against well, I don't know. I mean, if
Speaker 1: Laurel I feels any kind of guilt that she overreacted,
Speaker 1: then yeah, right, she's gonna she's gonna deliver the letter.
Speaker 1: I just think she shouldn't involve This is between her
Speaker 1: and Dean, and involving a third party is just adding
Speaker 1: to it. And it's an awkward position for Laurla Like
Speaker 1: I know, like she's like, I know that my daughter
Speaker 1: had sex with you and you're married, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to hand you this letter that I have no idea
Speaker 1: what it says inside, but here you go. How great
Speaker 1: was Dean in that scene? Though? Real good, real real
Speaker 1: good and anxiety? Yeah? Oh was he great? And I
Speaker 1: felt so bad for him. I agree with you. It
Speaker 1: was his best scene ever. I think so too. He
Speaker 1: nailed that. I literally wrote good acting, good acting. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize he was this good. Just a kid and
Speaker 1: he's that good, you know. I feel like I might
Speaker 1: disagree with the whole would you like not giving the letter?
Speaker 1: I think if I was Laurel and knowing the tension,
Speaker 1: and I think Laurela has also reflected later being like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that was a big day for my daughter. Horrible circumstances,
Speaker 1: But I think she is trying to get back, you know,
Speaker 1: in Rory's races or whatever. Yeah, and just get that
Speaker 1: mother daughter relationship back, and more importantly, Rory's trust back,
Speaker 1: because I think there's no trust right now. And so like,
Speaker 1: if I was Lorlie, I might have done it, and
Speaker 1: I think I would have done it. I would have
Speaker 1: done it, Yeah, you would, Amy, Yeah, I would have
Speaker 1: done it. I would have done it. I wouldn't have.
Speaker 1: I would have said, you made your bed laying it
Speaker 1: and you make your own best. I think Daniel's right.
Speaker 1: She's trying so hard to sort of make amends with Rory,
Speaker 1: and I like how she's very clear, and I think
Speaker 1: that's where you know we need to different. This is
Speaker 1: where an example where there are no boundaries because that's
Speaker 1: something you ask a friend to do. Isn't it weird
Speaker 1: that A? Yeah, you're right. I agree. I think if
Speaker 1: I were late, I would do it. If I were Lorelai,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I just also think though her daughter is distraught,
Speaker 1: like her daughter's like, I'm sorry, Yeah, I screwed up
Speaker 1: in Rome with her grandmother. I still think I would
Speaker 1: have done it. But I think you're right, Tar, Like,
Speaker 1: why didn't you just ask Lane? It would have been
Speaker 1: I've installed a red emergency button right to doctor Kim's office.
Speaker 1: Let's get her seriously. Yeah, I would. I wouldn't. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have delivered it. But danko dumb dean like a
Speaker 1: fair one, oh one, do not leave the letter right
Speaker 1: like when you do leave it on the counter, just
Speaker 1: open his coat pocket. I guess, Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: what he should have done with a letter disappearing ink,
Speaker 1: read it, tear it up. I don't know, because that
Speaker 1: is tape. This should you decide to accept this mission? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I heard her yesterday self destruct intensive one. I saw
Speaker 1: something on TikTok yesterday that floored me. Gail and Oprah
Speaker 1: you know my queen's Gail and Oprah. I love him
Speaker 1: so much. I'm Oprah is queen. Gail walked in on
Speaker 1: her husband cheating on her. She walked, she got home
Speaker 1: early from wherever she was with the children. This is
Speaker 1: obviously many many years ago, in on her husband cheating
Speaker 1: on her with like one of their friends. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: she told Oprah the whole story. I think maybe when
Speaker 1: Oprah's on tour or something. I was, and I tell
Speaker 1: you those Hollywood people, those Hollywood people, wow, yeah yourself.
Speaker 1: I I mean, it brings an excellent point here, like
Speaker 1: darn barnyard out there. Yeah, which we'll get to the
Speaker 1: public shaming. So we'll get to that, because I don't
Speaker 1: even know where I stand on that. So, oh god,
Speaker 1: there's so much Okay, So because if lie down, somebody's
Speaker 1: gonna jump on you, you know out there, careful, all right?
Speaker 1: So then we get back to the Renaissance Fair and
Speaker 1: we realize, like, oh, Luca and Lorla have been talking
Speaker 1: the whole time. They're so comfortable with each other. Lucas
Speaker 1: using his cell phone, yeah, and the only calls Lorelai.
Speaker 1: It's that's yeah. So, Scott, what did you think of
Speaker 1: this scene where first you've got this great chemistry going
Speaker 1: with Lorelai and then the darling, most darling scene ever
Speaker 1: with Liz where you have that interaction and she's like,
Speaker 1: is it a dark haired girl with I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's just such another side of Luke. Do
Speaker 1: we want to see it like one hundred percent? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't want a million ses. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: up for the audience for me on what they like,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So you you enjoyed that
Speaker 1: seeing that sunny, happy side of him. Yes, they think
Speaker 1: of something and this is not this is like something
Speaker 1: I want to say, But it's a little weird that
Speaker 1: I'm saying it to you, Scott. So you have to
Speaker 1: sort of do your best to be like an impartial judge.
Speaker 1: I'm going to really listen to you this time. You
Speaker 1: have really good chemistry with your scene partners, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like with Lorelei, it's really great chemistry Liz,
Speaker 1: really great brother sister chemistry. And then I think back
Speaker 1: about your you know, so many scenes with Kirk where
Speaker 1: you're the best bud, older brother figure z. Yes, is
Speaker 1: that something that you are good at creating with another
Speaker 1: actor or is it these particular actors? It was so
Speaker 1: sort of there really was great chemistry. I think it's
Speaker 1: one of two things, or it could be a little
Speaker 1: bit of both. I think if as an actor, and
Speaker 1: here's a technical if you really listen to what they
Speaker 1: are saying, which is seems you know, intuitive, right, it
Speaker 1: seems of course you're going to do that, But a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't do that, right You be worried
Speaker 1: about your next line or something. They're thinking of their lines.
Speaker 1: They're not listening to your lines. So I always tried
Speaker 1: to do that. And the only way you can do
Speaker 1: that is being like completely off book and knowing your
Speaker 1: lines cold so you don't have to worry. So really,
Speaker 1: it's just what I'm thinking about. I'm not thinking about anything.
Speaker 1: I'm just listening and trying to react what they're saying
Speaker 1: to me in real time and hitting my cues because
Speaker 1: because the cues are really super important. I mean, it
Speaker 1: really stands out in the scenes once we get you
Speaker 1: back to the diner with Lauren. But the interaction with
Speaker 1: Liz was so cute. Really, I just I just find
Speaker 1: a way to vibe with people and you know, just
Speaker 1: make it as no I just want it to be
Speaker 1: as natural as possible. And and I love that she
Speaker 1: said you're not going to be alone, just like Suki
Speaker 1: said to such an interesting parallel. But I was going
Speaker 1: to say, I do think a lot of it has
Speaker 1: to do a dialogue too, Like they give you these
Speaker 1: words that like mean something and they're meaningful scenes. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're there. There's scenes and dialogue that allows you to
Speaker 1: kind of lay back and listen and just sort of
Speaker 1: be natural. You know. That's where the acting is for me.
Speaker 1: It's it's the listening. It's active listening. Yeah, So you know,
Speaker 1: to any actor out there listening to the podcast, that's
Speaker 1: that's a big part of it. You know. It's it's
Speaker 1: really hearing what your scene partner saying to you, really
Speaker 1: listening to them and not worrying about pace so much,
Speaker 1: but just really listening and playing the truth of how
Speaker 1: you're feeling what's coming up for you in that in
Speaker 1: that moment. So so then we get that fabulous scene
Speaker 1: that we touched on with Dean and lower Lie with
Speaker 1: the letter I'm a messenger nothing more. He's who what? When? Where? Why? How?
Speaker 1: Who she with? What's going on? Why did she do
Speaker 1: a la la la? Right? You just saw how distraught
Speaker 1: he was, so sad totally, and then he loves her
Speaker 1: and it's so he's so torn and this whole thing's
Speaker 1: a mess. And I think he's also like, like, is
Speaker 1: she trying to get away from me? He's like by
Speaker 1: being in Europe, Like, I think he's like thinking he
Speaker 1: did something wrong. Which also the ending scene, oh I
Speaker 1: thought Dean was a bit of a hoopoo head again,
Speaker 1: so we'll get to that. But so then we get
Speaker 1: into the scene with Lane and Caesar and the Caesar salad,
Speaker 1: the Caesar's salad hilarious, And then here we have Aaron's
Speaker 1: Foster sot. So then we have Aaron Foster where she's like,
Speaker 1: you know, they're flirting with Zach and the whole thing,
Speaker 1: and then Lane has that fry meltdown and then Aaron
Speaker 1: Foster comes back. Aaron Foster played Cheryl and she says,
Speaker 1: we didn't know, Yeah, we didn't. Cool girl too, all
Speaker 1: kinds of new angles. I thought, we're really we're married
Speaker 1: to that to new table too there, and then we
Speaker 1: get Lorelei and the coolest blazer I've ever seen, the
Speaker 1: white blazer with the orange orange so good, and holy cow,
Speaker 1: is Lindsay hucking the stuff out the window just watching?
Speaker 1: You know what? Good for her? You throw those clothes
Speaker 1: out the window so bad? Yeah, she was justified, right,
Speaker 1: and the whole Unfortunately she was the whole time. Sukie's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, are you watching this? And Laura I
Speaker 1: just know the better of her head. It was a
Speaker 1: great little scene that preamble before they saw that. We're
Speaker 1: a great little scene between those two. Yeah, totally totally right.
Speaker 1: They can never leave work aside too, but also come
Speaker 1: on invisible think the letters. Yeah, I don't know that.
Speaker 1: That seemed like a little bit of a leap for
Speaker 1: me too, that she was digging through the jacket. Well,
Speaker 1: then he wouldn't be more careful with something like that
Speaker 1: because if obviously, if he's got it in his jacket pocket,
Speaker 1: he wants her to find it. So it's like kind
Speaker 1: of I think, So, you know, give me a break here.
Speaker 1: You know, who's going to be that careless with something exactly,
Speaker 1: you know, even though he you know, it's like, at
Speaker 1: least show some respect for your wife a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't know, don't drag the letter into the house, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: clean up your clean it up? Yeah. Yeah. So the
Speaker 1: mistake is kie. So then this was aggressive. So we
Speaker 1: go back and Rory gets home and she's in the
Speaker 1: kitchen and Emily, and we also find out that the
Speaker 1: the in his book to ninety percent capacity, the restaurants
Speaker 1: turning people away. So everything's going great. Suki's like gossiping
Speaker 1: about Dean to Rory and it's the whole hot mass
Speaker 1: so awkward, goodness, gracious right. I literally was like, su
Speaker 1: please please. The attempted hug that Laurel I tried to
Speaker 1: give her mother, Oh, I kind of missed that one.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen Laurel I try to hug Emily Jackie?
Speaker 1: Can you pull that up? I have to see that
Speaker 1: she was rebuffed. No, I have airplane all over me,
Speaker 1: you know, Oh yeah, I miss I'm so like Emily,
Speaker 1: Like the second I got off a plane. I need
Speaker 1: a shower, a shower. Yeah, but I mean, did you
Speaker 1: Laurels never attempted a hug with her mother. This would
Speaker 1: be the first attempt She hasn't had Luke, Rory or
Speaker 1: anyone for you know too. You can make up, but yeah,
Speaker 1: she's not going to hug her mother, is she? Here
Speaker 1: we go, let's see, let's see Emily comes in. She's
Speaker 1: gonna waltz in. There we go, Here we go. Oh yeah, awkward.
Speaker 1: That was a hard yep. Uh. Maybe it's justified because
Speaker 1: she she was nice enough to take Rory. God. I
Speaker 1: love Kelly Bishop, love the beautiful lady too. She's so pretty.
Speaker 1: What an actress. What a talent, I mean, what a
Speaker 1: glorious talent, So that we do get the moment where
Speaker 1: then like, oh, Suki, you go do your thing or whatever,
Speaker 1: because it's just like getting so awkward with the dean talk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then oh god in the town, this is lazy
Speaker 1: and lindsay that was both barrels that shotgun and then
Speaker 1: she reloaded and fired again. Wow, just kept going. That
Speaker 1: was gnarly. I mean, I thought I thought there was
Speaker 1: going to be a physical confrontation. I thought, daughter take
Speaker 1: the gloves off and start throwing hands man. You know,
Speaker 1: both the daughters were so quiet. Yeah, I like, sort
Speaker 1: of disheveled and yeah, what did you guys think? I
Speaker 1: think that's I think you're right. I think that's where
Speaker 1: the scene should have gone, is between the two daughters
Speaker 1: or at least speak up a little bit, like if
Speaker 1: that was going to get out of that, if that
Speaker 1: could have gotten out of hand, that should have gotten
Speaker 1: out of hand. Yeah, I would have loved to seen
Speaker 1: that the girls talks, like right as you see, why
Speaker 1: is Lindsey shutting up there? You know, she's she's pissed,
Speaker 1: She's she goes after Rory, right. I also think maybe
Speaker 1: a part of her new y she's always known, you know,
Speaker 1: like she's always known that Rory and Dean had a
Speaker 1: thing and Dean really loves her. I think like she
Speaker 1: had that gut feeling in them. Yeah, and we obviously
Speaker 1: know that she knew that there was stuff wrong in
Speaker 1: their relationship. So I think not that it's a relief
Speaker 1: that she knows, but she's like yeah, I know, you know,
Speaker 1: like I think she knew, but doesn't make it better,
Speaker 1: but she you know. I think maybe that's why she
Speaker 1: kind of was just like, you know, arms crossed, like
Speaker 1: looking off to the side type thing, and her mom
Speaker 1: was just like furious, right, I like the Laura says, hey,
Speaker 1: pull back lady, like it was yeah right. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think that Lindsay's mom was also like too involved. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but she always has been and she's presenting that side
Speaker 1: of herself that maybe caused a lot of problems between
Speaker 1: Dean and Lindsay. Totally totally. So there you have it, right,
Speaker 1: you know. So, say you guys are in that same situation,
Speaker 1: would you have I don't know, kept on walking given
Speaker 1: the stink guy like, or would you have had that confrontation?
Speaker 1: What would you have done? Yeah? I would have walked
Speaker 1: by him be and like you suck, just kept walking.
Speaker 1: I would have said nothing, it's not confrontation. Is not
Speaker 1: my not my bag on something like that. Um, it's hard,
Speaker 1: it's tough. I don't really know what I do. I
Speaker 1: just wouldn't want my mom involved standing that seeking for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't like that public display. Yeah, especially in that town. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in a small town, that is a big deal. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, as Patty probably heard as telling
Speaker 1: the whole town by now, I wouldn't have thrown the
Speaker 1: stuff out the window. Either I would have been very
Speaker 1: calm and said, back up, so is Lindsey from Stars
Speaker 1: Hollow or she from else? She isn't because they went
Speaker 1: to they went to school together. Like in the first
Speaker 1: or second Season's Bad, you know that somebody's gonna have
Speaker 1: to move out of town. That's what I think. I
Speaker 1: bet you. Rory is like, can Yale please start getting
Speaker 1: out of it? Yeah. So in another great scene, we
Speaker 1: go to Luke's and the root beers on the house
Speaker 1: and he knows it. He's like, Rory looked pale, but
Speaker 1: he obviously hasn't gotten word of what just went down.
Speaker 1: And then in the Ultimate Parallel Universe, Oh, I have
Speaker 1: to run an errand, Oh I have to run an errand,
Speaker 1: just like Jess and Rory did. So at first, I
Speaker 1: was like, he's just nervous to be around her and
Speaker 1: doesn't like can't can't handle himself. And like after we
Speaker 1: figured out where he went and Lorela I met up
Speaker 1: with him, I'm like, oh, you you're slick. You've planned
Speaker 1: that so good. And while there there we get the
Speaker 1: excitement of Lane saying you know, I'm in love with
Speaker 1: Zach occurring according to the Dirty Troll, up the necklace
Speaker 1: giving was so cute and then the band comes out
Speaker 1: and I I laughed so hardy And the fact that
Speaker 1: she was wearing the ear rings, you know, like the
Speaker 1: matching piece, like she you know, he gave. He's like,
Speaker 1: I got this for you and and you know whatever,
Speaker 1: and then she just shows that she's wearing the earrings too,
Speaker 1: Like you can just tell, you can just tell the
Speaker 1: chemistry and the connection that the two of them have
Speaker 1: and that they're both so excited about it. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: haven't seen Luke like that. Like Luke with an hole,
Speaker 1: he was just like constantly still grouchy, like uh you know,
Speaker 1: and like this he's just like thinking about her and
Speaker 1: wanting to court her and like and every of the
Speaker 1: perfect match, Perfect match, it's always so good. Definitely a
Speaker 1: different side of Luke. Oh so judge whether you like
Speaker 1: that side or not. Been waiting for it for four years. Yeah, adorable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was it weird now in season five to switch
Speaker 1: like that. No, it was. It's nice because I get
Speaker 1: to do both now, so I can't you know, I
Speaker 1: can still be grumpy in the diner, but with her,
Speaker 1: I can I don't have to be grumpy anymore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I know this shit, it's another color to play.
Speaker 1: It's fun. You know. This was a job that was
Speaker 1: a lot of work, long hours. But was it just
Speaker 1: so much fun most of the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: most of the time. It really was a lot of laughs.
Speaker 1: Everybody laughed, you know. Then the one, the only scene
Speaker 1: that I thought didn't really go as I thought it
Speaker 1: would was Rory going over to Dean's. I thought he
Speaker 1: was really caustic and sort of coming at her when
Speaker 1: it was like, dude, bro, you did it. You were
Speaker 1: the married one, and here she is making sure you're
Speaker 1: hey and try to do the right thing by you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He keeps laying his heart out for her, and she
Speaker 1: keeps dropping bombs on the guy, and then she sends
Speaker 1: him a letter that she didn't even deliver. It didn't
Speaker 1: have enough respect for him to sit down and talk
Speaker 1: to him. When she got back, I agree and have
Speaker 1: a heart to heart and treat him like, you know,
Speaker 1: she really loves and respects him. But I gotta I
Speaker 1: gotta pull away from this. I mean, but I think
Speaker 1: that's the cowards way out. The letter said it was
Speaker 1: really special. It meant so much to care. What what's
Speaker 1: the butt though, she said, but I'm removing myself from
Speaker 1: the situation. Yeah. And here's the thing, he said it
Speaker 1: she dumped him before, and I think he finally thought
Speaker 1: maybe he was getting her back, and then another dump
Speaker 1: you know again? Guys, Right, guys, what married? She is
Speaker 1: taking the high road, She's going I love you, she
Speaker 1: basically is saying in the letter, like this was so
Speaker 1: special to me. I have feelings for you, but you're married,
Speaker 1: and I will take myself out of the equation and
Speaker 1: not make this. You did the damage already, Like I
Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you, but you you literally screwed.
Speaker 1: There is no marriage anymore. You screwed it up like
Speaker 1: there wasn't before. But she's saying, she's basically said, you
Speaker 1: work it out. And if I think she's saying, if
Speaker 1: you end up getting separated, divorced, we can talk. I
Speaker 1: need the transcript of the letter. We need a forensic
Speaker 1: investigation on this letter, because I just think a letter.
Speaker 1: I think she did the right thing. It's not appropriate.
Speaker 1: Did she do the right thing by taking herself out, Yes,
Speaker 1: but she should have never put herself in to begin with. Yeah, well, Abby,
Speaker 1: but he's the one that's married. But she helped wreck
Speaker 1: the marriage in person, in bed with him, face to face,
Speaker 1: wrecked the marriage. She could pull away and do it
Speaker 1: face to face. Just don't hit it. He was the
Speaker 1: married guy. He was the one playing video games. He
Speaker 1: was the one who didn't you know it was kind
Speaker 1: of barking at Lindsay all the time. He is the
Speaker 1: one who went and pursued Rory. Guys, I love Dean,
Speaker 1: but this is on Dean. And so for Dean to
Speaker 1: come to the door and be all Rory, he should
Speaker 1: have been like, I'm so sorry. I messed up so
Speaker 1: many things and hurt so many different people. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go straight to the therapist for six months and I
Speaker 1: will call you. Dean. I give what you're saying. I
Speaker 1: do actually totally understand that. I do. There's definitely an
Speaker 1: argument to be mate. Yeah, and I think everyone I
Speaker 1: think everyone's right here though, Like, if I'm being honest,
Speaker 1: like I do think everyone's right. He walked like a penguin.
Speaker 1: It was great, but I don't when I watched it.
Speaker 1: When I watched it, I didn't like it. But like
Speaker 1: after thinking about it, I'm like, all right, I like
Speaker 1: do understand why he's so hurt, like he I feel
Speaker 1: like he's lashing out out of being hurt because he
Speaker 1: did have the cookie cutter marriage that he thought he
Speaker 1: wanted back in the day, and now that's just completely
Speaker 1: squashed and the love of his life is now just
Speaker 1: taking herself out of the equipment. I think, I think maybe,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I don't know if this
Speaker 1: is a conscious choice. It probably is. I have no idea,
Speaker 1: But I mean, you have a main character that's beloved, right,
Speaker 1: and now she's done something and she's getting a lot
Speaker 1: of backlash for this, and she she's like gonna be
Speaker 1: The town is gonna be. Yeah, it loves their rory
Speaker 1: but right, but I mean their limits right to be.
Speaker 1: That's a big deal. Yeah, anytime, but especially in a
Speaker 1: small town, right, you don't want to be that that reverberates,
Speaker 1: that's reputational. That's just she destroyed her reputation in that town. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's a big deal. And she she's getting a
Speaker 1: lot of backlash for a reason. It's because she should
Speaker 1: and now she's getting it. She's getting it from Lindsay,
Speaker 1: she's getting it from Dean all these people. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's uh, but that was a little extra harsh
Speaker 1: of Dean, who's very complicit in this, if not more so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: does anyone have the symbolism of those balloons going by?
Speaker 1: Wasn't that beautiful? Favorite shot? That's the balloons that Rory
Speaker 1: acidentally knocked. I mean, sorry that Laura, Laura I knocked. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all I can thinking about was it the red balloon?
Speaker 1: Me too? Like she's literally in front of the house
Speaker 1: of represent an opportunity that was lost for a kiss,
Speaker 1: and then she bumped in and then she sent the
Speaker 1: balloons to Rory to think about the lost the opportunity.
Speaker 1: We need the people, Yeah, we need the people to
Speaker 1: weigh in. Yeah, what is the symbolism of that? That's interesting?
Speaker 1: It was a beautiful shot. It was my favorite shot
Speaker 1: of the whole thing. You know, the last episode they
Speaker 1: had Richard coming into the door lighting his cigars. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's there's some beautiful, sweeping shots that you
Speaker 1: love that with the cigar to television. That's foreign film,
Speaker 1: high level foreign film stuff. It's just beautiful stuff. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is one hundred percent true,
Speaker 1: but I just found something that said, um, the red
Speaker 1: balloons are simply helping set a timetable for events and
Speaker 1: tie them together. Oh that it's all happening at the
Speaker 1: same time. Kind yeah, so then you sort of think
Speaker 1: that it's over the episode. But you have this other
Speaker 1: scene where we see, like Danielle said, the Gilmore girls
Speaker 1: back together. They've got all their snacks. Oh, so many snacks. Steaks,
Speaker 1: also pizza. The combination plane or snacks makes me gag
Speaker 1: Like branch dressing, for sure, They've always got chips and
Speaker 1: pizza and steak, sauce and Chinese. But it's just like,
Speaker 1: oh god, it's just yeah, I mean it's like, now
Speaker 1: Rory is low in the relationship terms, Laurelize ultra high
Speaker 1: in relationship turns. It's you know, their shoes. On the
Speaker 1: other front, they're going to watch Show Girls and it's
Speaker 1: they're sanctuary but the greatest film of all time. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: these are powerful episodes. I mean just they really are
Speaker 1: wash over you. And they're just such a joy to watch.
Speaker 1: They're so funny, they're so detailed, they're so poignant, they're
Speaker 1: so dramatic. One thing I will say is I'm excited
Speaker 1: for Luke and Lorelei to be the focus because I
Speaker 1: feel like I don't know Dean and Rory and Lindsay
Speaker 1: situation at least for me, has been like clouding everything.
Speaker 1: Like I'm just so fixated on that and I'm excited,
Speaker 1: and we've seen bits of Luke and Lorelie, but I'm
Speaker 1: ready for them to go all in, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, I'm ready for that one they're Danielle, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I for me, it's ten out of ten? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how many? But what what measuring stick are you applied? Oh?
Speaker 1: Ten out of ten, steak, four eyes, nine, nine point
Speaker 1: five out of ten, red balloons, loof balloons or just
Speaker 1: red bullonsinnin loof balloons, char I was gonna use both
Speaker 1: of those. I'm trying a nine out of ten. Necklaces
Speaker 1: his necklaces you just snuck into mine. There weren't that
Speaker 1: many items in this episode. I mean I was gonna
Speaker 1: say the letter, that'd be kind of h That's good. Uh.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna deduct for the you know, the the long
Speaker 1: jump that we were required to do to get to
Speaker 1: the lane love thing. Um, so I'm gonna I'm not
Speaker 1: going to deduct a lot though. I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do a nine point seven five or okay, um uh
Speaker 1: TJ grabbing his drink. Oh yeah, because I just I
Speaker 1: just out of ten tjs and I want that guy
Speaker 1: in every scene every episode. Sorry, Hey, what's next week's called?
Speaker 1: And I think there's a world where TJ and Kirk
Speaker 1: co existed. It could be glorious and I want to
Speaker 1: see it. Yes, all right, everybody, So that's way next week?
Speaker 1: It's next week? Written in the stars, is the greatest
Speaker 1: moment of my life? Do we meet not Zukery next week?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I don't want to know, and
Speaker 1: I don't want you to tell me. But the one
Speaker 1: thing I do I will not tell you. The one
Speaker 1: thing I do want you to know is that I'm
Speaker 1: going to be in Louisville the Louisville Pop Con June
Speaker 1: sixteen through eighteen. So I'll be in Louisville, Kentucky and
Speaker 1: meeting fans and it'll be wonderful. And I have another
Speaker 1: announcement to make, but it's not quite announceable yet. Oh oh,
Speaker 1: that's a tease, tea. Can you give us a hint? Nope? Sorry,
Speaker 1: do I know what it is? No, it's going to
Speaker 1: be like this show tease within a tease within a
Speaker 1: t I know what it is you do, not what No,
Speaker 1: it's incredible, right because you know everything I know, and
Speaker 1: I know things that we haven't announced, right. I want
Speaker 1: you to deal with a little bit of mystery, a
Speaker 1: little bit. That's a good tease, dude, that's a good
Speaker 1: tease because I'm huck. Let's talk about my new show,
Speaker 1: by the way, which is kicking ass in Canada. Well, great,
Speaker 1: thanks Canada. We don't live there. When is it coming
Speaker 1: to like? Hello? We all like Chad Michael Murray too.
Speaker 1: I think we're number one in Canada. That's amazing that
Speaker 1: a lot of people, they're really happy. But here it's
Speaker 1: at all. It's common. I can't say anything, but it's common.
Speaker 1: Don't work. I figured that coming. It's common. All right, Um,
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