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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody.

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Speaker 2: Friday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: kicks off right now, and we got a lot of

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Speaker 2: news to talk about. It's also Friday, so we're just

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Speaker 2: gonna have some fun too. But they made me reminded

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Speaker 2: me it's like Friday, Buck, let's have fun. I say, sir,

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Speaker 2: your wish is my command. It's been a hell of

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Speaker 2: a crazy week, honestly, so let's have some fun headed

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Speaker 2: into the weekend. Clay is el cappy tan of fun,

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Speaker 2: so we know that he likes. The guy likes to

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Speaker 2: have a good time. So we're gonna dive into all

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Speaker 2: this stuff and we're going to take a lot of

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Speaker 2: your calls and your talkbacks everything else. It's another day

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Speaker 2: where we got to do it, my friends, Let's do

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Speaker 2: it right now. Dhs oh boy says Border patrol agent

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Speaker 2: fired a defensive shot after a driver linked to trend

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Speaker 2: Aragua try to run over federal agents. Another vehicle attacking

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Speaker 2: officers situation, this one I believe non fatal in this year,

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Speaker 2: but another another time bullets fired and this one an.

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Speaker 1: Illegal gang member.

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Speaker 2: And guess what in Oregon where this happened specifically, I

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Speaker 2: think it was southeastern Portland, which if you want a

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Speaker 2: sense of the zombie apocalypse, my understanding, Clay is, you

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Speaker 2: can go to downtown Portland day or night and you'll

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Speaker 2: see it.

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Speaker 1: It's down there. That really mentioned this too.

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Speaker 2: By the way, on Portland, we need to get out

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Speaker 2: to Portland at some point. We've got a great affiliate there.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of you feel like you're behind

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Speaker 2: enemy lines.

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 2: On the context of what would an impact of the

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Speaker 2: zombie apocalypse like Portland create, Portland was all set to

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Speaker 2: get a major League Baseball team. Now Salt Lake City

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Speaker 2: is going to get I really believe the major League

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Speaker 2: Baseball expansion team might sound like a small thing, but

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Speaker 2: since COVID and the drug overdose allowance and all of

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Speaker 2: the collapse of downtown Portland, they have effectively we started

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Speaker 2: to lose big symbolic things such as a major League

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Speaker 2: Baseball team, and now Salt Lake City's gonna get it,

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Speaker 2: just because Utah is not as crazy as Oregon. Sorry

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Speaker 2: to cut you off there, but I do think that's

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Speaker 2: sort of a representative sample of how lost the city

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Speaker 2: of Portland has become.

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Speaker 1: So we've got that story to dive into.

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Speaker 2: We've got maniacs and fully Square where I remember fifteen

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Speaker 2: years ago covering the Occupy Wall Street protests for the Blaze,

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Speaker 2: they used to gather and fully Square often some of

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Speaker 2: the offshoots of that protest movement, leftist maniacs play. They

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Speaker 2: were chanting, quote christin Nome will hang end quote. That

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Speaker 2: is a very stupid thing to say, and certainly a

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Speaker 2: stupid thing to be chanting on video, threatening violence against

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Speaker 2: a cabinet official, a federal agent, that is. But it

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Speaker 2: gives you a sense of the kind of people that

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Speaker 2: show up at these protests. We'll discuss that Trump's saying.

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Speaker 2: And I believe this was on a This is A

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Speaker 2: with our friend Shawn last night, right, it was on

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Speaker 2: Hannity Show.

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Speaker 1: I'm just seeing the headline here.

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Speaker 2: Trump's saying that the United States is gonna conduct strikes

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Speaker 2: against cartels in Mexico, not to be confused with New

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Speaker 2: Mexico clay in Mexico, which is that's gonna get spicy

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Speaker 2: if we start doing that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: it's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's gonna get interesting if we start

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Speaker 2: trying to take out serious cartel members. And look, they've

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Speaker 2: been poisoning Americans for decades. We got that Clay, We've

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Speaker 2: got Chuck Schumer throwing ice under the bus. No surprise,

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Speaker 2: they're more on the woman who was shot in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: She was an Ice watch warrior is what they call this.

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Speaker 2: She's an activist and she was trying to obstruct law enforcement.

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Speaker 2: That's become clear. I actually wanted to throw this into

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Speaker 2: the mix though, just as a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: changeup ties into Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Clar Scott Bessant, one of the all stars of this administration,

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Speaker 2: has done a really good job both in the messaging,

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Speaker 2: I believe, and on the policy side. And there's some

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Speaker 2: really there's some reasons to be very bullish about the economy.

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Speaker 2: Listen to the Secretary of the Treasury, who is a

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Speaker 2: very serious, very smart guy who can read a balance sheet,

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Speaker 2: understands macroeconomics, understands finance at the highest level. Listen to

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Speaker 2: what he says is the scale of straight up fraud

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Speaker 2: with taxpayer dollars at stake in this country.

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Speaker 1: Play cut one.

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Speaker 3: I think that this may just be it's cold dale outside,

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Speaker 3: so this could be the tip of the iceberg. Here

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Speaker 3: in Minnesota, but it's probably may not be as prevalent,

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Speaker 3: but the dollars may be bigger and larger in other states.

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Speaker 3: And just to put this in perspective for American taxpayers,

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Speaker 3: for American families, the GAO, the General Accounting Office, believe

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Speaker 3: that there is somewhere between I mean three and six

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Speaker 3: hundred billion of annual fraud, roughly ten percent of government

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Speaker 3: spending that disappears due to fraud. If we can recapture that,

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Speaker 3: that is one to two percent.

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Speaker 4: Of GDP.

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Speaker 2: Clay up to six hundred billion dollars of fraud annually.

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Speaker 2: It's wild, And what he said there is something that

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Speaker 2: I think you need to start to focus on. I

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Speaker 2: think we're gonna get phenomenal fourth quarter GDP numbers. Uh Now,

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Speaker 2: partly the GDP numbers are out of whack in the

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Speaker 2: kind of have to toss out the twenty twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty one numbers because they're a mess. But there are

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Speaker 2: some whisper numbers out there that we're gonna hit five

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Speaker 2: If we could hit five and a half or six

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Speaker 2: because obviously the numbers are looking back in terms of

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Speaker 2: catching up. We're talking about budgets getting balanced in potentially

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Speaker 2: unprecedented the amount of growth that we could potentially be

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Speaker 2: this is a number that I would tell everybody out

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Speaker 2: there you should be paying attention to. I would also

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Speaker 2: say this stock market continues to hit record highs. Stock

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Speaker 2: market tends to look about six months or a year

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Speaker 2: into the future. Wall Street is expecting twenty twenty six

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Speaker 2: to be one of the greatest years economically that we

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Speaker 2: And you mentioned this, and I think it's important to

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Speaker 2: go back in time to February.

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Speaker 2: I would argue February of twenty twenty is the strongest

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Speaker 2: we were headed for unbelievable numbers. I mean, if you

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Speaker 2: I think we are setting up for a incredible Trump

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Speaker 2: positive direction economically for them. And I understand that, and

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Speaker 2: that's particularly the case in the wake of the disastrous

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Speaker 2: economic policies of Joe Biden. But you can seem out

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Speaker 2: feel it yet. It takes a lagging indicator for people

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Speaker 2: to feel how good the economy was. And it actually

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Speaker 2: took to about twenty twenty, twenty nineteen and Trump one

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Speaker 2: point oh buck for everybody out there to suddenly say,

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Speaker 2: wait a minute, this economy is on fire. I really

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Speaker 2: am super optimistic that we are headed for that. As

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Speaker 2: long as we can keep China from dropping a new

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Speaker 1: Let's certainly hope.

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Speaker 2: So, speaking of foreign situations, Iran is heating up right

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Speaker 2: now internally a lot, and there's footage that's circulating of

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Speaker 2: big protests in the streets. Now maybe this goes you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm very generally wait and see about all things Iran

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Speaker 2: the math in my head right now forty years forty basically, yeah,

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Speaker 2: forty years forty years of any day now, any day now,

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Speaker 2: and not really, but there are indicators that the regime

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Speaker 2: is under tremendous pressure. I would also note, Clay, remember

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Speaker 2: when the Obama administration was in power and we were

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Speaker 2: to calm things down with some grand bargain that allows

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Speaker 2: Iran access to international banking, relieve sanctions, lets it continue

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Speaker 2: traditional ballistic missile research and get close, very close but

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Speaker 2: not quite at a nuclear weapon level of nuclear research.

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Speaker 2: Remember all that that was completely insane and wrong.

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Speaker 1: I mean the more importantly it was wrong. I think

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Speaker 1: everyone can see this.

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Speaker 2: We blew up the Iranian welld the Israelis and then

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Speaker 2: US blew up the Iranian nuclear reactors.

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Speaker 1: No World War three broke out.

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Speaker 2: There weren't mass casualty terrorist attacks all over the world.

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Speaker 1: Going to Sunni Arab Muslim allies in the region.

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Speaker 2: Like, yes, I know things have changed a lot since

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Speaker 2: in was actually a smart strategy that being basically clay.

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Speaker 2: Being nice to the Mullahs is an idiotic idea. They

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Speaker 2: There's no concessions we make that make them nice. That

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look I was reading again.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to see what's going on in

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Speaker 2: consecutive protests which seem to be growing there. It's all

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Speaker 2: fueled by economic anger. The rate of inflation has gone

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Speaker 2: and that is a direct result of the pressure that

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Speaker 2: And buck, I think it's even worse than what some

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Speaker 2: people said, this will cause World War three. Thousands of

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Speaker 2: said would happen if we attack their nuclear capacities. It's

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Speaker 2: actually not just that they were wrong about the awful

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Speaker 2: results that might ensue. It's that actually it made us

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Speaker 2: In other words, you had to eliminate that danger from

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Speaker 2: Iran and the theocratic rulers, the Ayatola and company being

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Speaker 2: able to have nuclear weapons in order for there to

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Speaker 2: And remember, remember this is super significant. Pay attention to

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Speaker 2: what people do, not what they say. Most of the

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Speaker 2: countries in the Middle East actually supported Trump's strikes on Iran.

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Speaker 2: The Saudi Arabia, is, the Uaes, the Qatars. They may

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Speaker 2: say publicly, oh, this is unacceptable. Privately they're all saying

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Speaker 2: to the United States and even Israel through back channels. Hey,

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Speaker 2: we support you on these attacks. We're all about this.

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Speaker 2: We will get into more of this and also the

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Speaker 2: latest from the worst. Certainly, I think we could say

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Speaker 2: the worst mayor in the Midwest. Oh no, Brandon Johnson.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Jacob Fray has got fry. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: That's really that's really tough. Yeah, that's mean I got

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Speaker 2: are they just getting going for the weekend because it

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Speaker 2: is cold up there in Minneapolis in the middle of January, so.

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Speaker 6: It's freezing, and it's like yesterday we saw five thousand,

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Speaker 6: six thousand protesters, you know, marching for hours when it's fleeting,

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Speaker 6: and so that's interesting. And then today I have notice

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Speaker 6: it is quieter today, and I think that's because Tim

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Speaker 6: Wall's put out that video which he called for a

444
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Speaker 6: moment of silence for Renee Good at ten am and

445
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Speaker 6: just hoping to get people like time. So I think

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Speaker 6: the protesters are taking into that. There's three main places

447
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Speaker 6: where they're gathering. That's the scene of Renee's death, the

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Speaker 6: Ice Field Office, and then where they organized that protest

449
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Speaker 6: in like this intersection downtown, and all of those scenes

450
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Speaker 6: have been much quieter today. And I keep hearing last

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Speaker 6: night at the visual scene, they were saying on Saturday,

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Speaker 6: we're gonna come out here, and so I think they're

453
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Speaker 6: using this as kind of a day to recoup and

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Speaker 6: then they're coming back stronger than ever on Saturday. And

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Speaker 6: interesting the scene because I talked to people on the

456
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Speaker 6: street and I said, and they were telling me they

457
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Speaker 6: think the violence from George Floyd reflected bad on the

458
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Speaker 6: Black Lives Matter movement, and so they're trying to use

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Speaker 6: extra precaution because they don't want violence from this movement

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Speaker 6: to distract how they feel about Ice, and so that's

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Speaker 6: what they're worried about. And they keep saying they don't

462
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Speaker 6: want Donald Trump to make an example out of Minneapolis.

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Speaker 6: So I think that is the main reason for why

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Speaker 6: so far there hasn't been much destruction.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to brekast Stole of the Daily Wire. You

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Speaker 1: had it.

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Speaker 2: Also, you've done a really good job on the ground.

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Speaker 2: I've seen several of your videos going viral. A McDonald's

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Speaker 2: in the area put up a sign that said they

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Speaker 2: would not allow ice workers to come in and buy sandwiches,

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Speaker 2: get hamburgers, whatnot. Also, we had the hotel that said

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Speaker 2: we're not going to allow people to stay there. I

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Speaker 2: tell us what you found with McDonald's and the hotel

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Speaker 2: and whether you think that might be indicative. We talked

475
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Speaker 2: about this on the show, somewhat of a continued shift

476
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Speaker 2: in the way that big business is responding after the

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Speaker 2: bud light incident. It seems like anytime one of these

478
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Speaker 2: stories go viral, we get an immediate response, but reveal

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Speaker 2: who didn't see what happened with McDonald's. Tell us what

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Speaker 2: you found there.

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Speaker 6: So we were taking a bathroom break from interviewing people on

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Speaker 6: the street and we go into McDonald's and right on

483
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Speaker 6: the door says a sign that says ice is not

484
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Speaker 6: allowed here. And so when we interviewed the security guard

485
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Speaker 6: inside and we're like, how and also interesting that the

486
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Speaker 6: McDonald's had a security guard, he just talked about how

487
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Speaker 6: bad the area is and how McDonald has hired him.

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Speaker 6: He also was about to take our order, so that

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Speaker 6: was already interesting. But the security guard said he wasn't

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Speaker 6: sure how the sign got there, but he said it

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Speaker 6: was private property and that's what the business decided. Now,

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Speaker 6: when you actually think about what probably happened here is

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Speaker 6: you think about McDonald's and they you know, they've just

494
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Speaker 6: let Trump be a fry cook during his campaign for

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Speaker 6: their team, so you know that they did not want

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Speaker 6: they did not want to say ice was not allowed

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Speaker 6: into there. And I can tell by their quickness to

498
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Speaker 6: respond to me for comments when they said this was

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Speaker 6: not authorized by corporate And so what has probably happened

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Speaker 6: here is it's a franchisee owner who maybe wasn't him,

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Speaker 6: probably a manager, could even be a woke employee at

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Speaker 6: the McDonald's who put that sign on the door. And

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Speaker 6: you see McDonald's actively through their comment and their quickness

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Speaker 6: to give it to me saying that this is not

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Speaker 6: okay and obviously I should be allowed in our stores.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the work you're doing, Rereca, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, stay safe and the lending with throw

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Speaker 2: any snowballs at you and talk to you against.

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Speaker 1: It, and stay warm.

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Speaker 2: That sounds miserable to me. The work you're doing is important,

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Speaker 2: but I can't imagine how frigid it is. So stay warm.

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Speaker 2: You're getting good stuff, and stay safe. Thank you guys, great.

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Speaker 6: To be with you today.

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Speaker 2: She's doing really good work. We wanted to find somebody

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's circle back again.

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Speaker 2: Right about the end of the first hour, a video

542
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Speaker 2: of the ice officer's perspective was released by a company

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Speaker 2: called a media site called Alpha News. We talked with

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Speaker 2: the Brekastole on the ground, but I think Buck, maybe

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Speaker 2: we can circle back to this because it is not

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Speaker 2: yet airing anywhere on Fox News, CNN or MSNBC. My

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Speaker 2: guess is they're probably trying to validate it themselves, because

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Speaker 2: this is an exclusive that Alpha News has.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with this.

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Speaker 2: You and I are not experts by any stretch of

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Speaker 2: the imagination and what is fake and what is real.

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Speaker 2: I will say, though this appears to be very valid,

553
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Speaker 2: I don't think this could be AI. I don't think

554
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Speaker 2: they could fake this, right? Would you say we're all

555
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Speaker 2: going to be called upon for many different videos in

556
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Speaker 2: the years ahead. Is this real or is this fake?

557
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Speaker 2: Is probably the number one thing all of us are

558
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Speaker 2: going to have to do when we watch videos that

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Speaker 2: go viral. You and I have watched this video. I

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Speaker 2: would say with almost one hundred percent certainty, this appears

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Speaker 2: to be the real video of the perspective of the

562
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Speaker 2: ice agent that fired these shots. Yeah, the best thing

563
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Speaker 2: you can do these days is try to look for

564
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Speaker 2: some visual tells for it to be AI. And there

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Speaker 2: are some out there, By the way, there might not

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Speaker 2: be for all that much longer. As these videos get

567
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Speaker 2: more and more advanced, then you're really just trying to

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Speaker 2: go on chain of custody, who had this, who posted it?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I have very little doubt that this video

570
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Speaker 1: I have. I'm ninety nine percent sure this video is real.

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Speaker 1: I would say that I would go even higher. I

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Speaker 1: mean it would.

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Speaker 2: You would have to be the greatest AI artist of

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Speaker 2: all time to fake this when you see the different

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Speaker 2: perspectives involved. So let's break it down. Because people can't

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Speaker 2: see it yet, and you can't even you can go

577
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: on social media and you can watch it at Clay

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00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: Travis at buck Sexton. We have shared it at the

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Speaker 2: Clay and Buck Show. So this is one where if

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00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: you want to see for yourself and make your own determination,

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Speaker 2: we encourage you to go look at the video that

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Speaker 2: we have shared on our social media feeds. Now, with

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Speaker 2: that in mind, Buck, you have trained, I'm gonna make

584
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Speaker 2: you the expert here. You have trained. I've done this

585
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Speaker 2: a little bit because from a legal perspective, I've done it.

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Speaker 2: But you have spent a lot of time training on

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00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: simplified good shoot, bad shoot. So if you were charged

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Speaker 2: with analyzing this from a good shoot, bad shoot perspective,

589
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Speaker 2: what should people know about what this video shows? And

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Speaker 2: how would you analyze it? From a good shoot that is,

591
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Speaker 2: it is a legal opportunity to shoot someone, and a

592
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Speaker 2: bad shoot that is, it would be illegal and you

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Speaker 2: could potentially face criminal charges. Right, And I'm glad you

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Speaker 2: clarify that too, because when you say something like clean

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Speaker 2: shoot or good shoot in law enforcement or law terminology,

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Speaker 2: it's not like celebrating and high fiving over it.

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Speaker 1: It just means that it was lawful.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 2: I Mean, it's sad when someone is killed in a

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Speaker 2: whole range of law enforcement situations. You know, if someone's

601
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Speaker 2: having a perfect example, Clay, the woman who came after

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Speaker 2: that officer on the body cam, and I think it

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Speaker 2: was Virginia, came after a basketball player with the butcher knife. Right,

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Speaker 2: he had every right to shoot her. He did nothing wrong,

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Speaker 2: but she clearly was having a mental breakdown and it

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Speaker 2: was a very sad situation. But he had to shoot her. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: good shoot, quote unquote good shoot. That's not Oh wow,

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad that this thing is a horrible thing

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Speaker 2: that happened. But he did nothing wrong, nothing unlawful in

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Speaker 2: the shooting. And in fact, in that case, clearly, I mean,

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Speaker 2: it was beyond any reasonable doubt at all, there's no

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Speaker 2: doubt had to shoot to save his life, which he

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Speaker 2: has every right. Every human being, you have a right

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Speaker 2: to self defense. That is innate. You have a natural

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Speaker 2: law right to self defense. No state, no entity, no

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Speaker 2: government can say sorry now. Democrats pretend otherwise. They sometimes

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Speaker 2: want to make self defense. In fact, they generally want

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Speaker 2: to make self defense illegal. They want to disarm you,

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Speaker 2: they want to prosecute you. Depends, of course, on the situation.

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Speaker 2: You know, who are you defending yourself against. Are you

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Speaker 2: defending yourself against an oppressed person? Then perhaps it's not

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Speaker 2: self defense because we have to look at the historical context.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: First thing, Clay is, you'll look at this and this

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Speaker 2: even goes to just my concealed carry course here in Florida,

626
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Speaker 2: which so many millions of you listening have done in

627
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Speaker 2: different states, where you get into am I in reasonable

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Speaker 2: fear of my safety or the safety of somebody that

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Speaker 2: I am immediately capable of responding to protect. So it's

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Speaker 2: not just I have a firearm. By the way, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna talk about this law enforcement context in a second.

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Speaker 2: I just mean for everyday civilians, you have a legal

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Speaker 2: self defense right and the way it breaks down, Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's different verbiage, and there's duty to retreat, there's castle doctrine,

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Speaker 2: there's all these things in different states that can come

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Speaker 2: into play. But the very basic one is the very

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Speaker 2: basic self defense is do you have a reasonable fear

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Speaker 2: of serious bodily harm and or death for you or

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Speaker 2: somebody that you are intervening to protect in a reasonable way.

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Speaker 2: So if I draw my pistol, some guy pulls a

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Speaker 2: knife out and says, I'm gonna kill you, give me

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Speaker 2: your wallet. Oh, I actually am concealed caring right now,

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Speaker 2: I get to my Smith and Wesson bodyguard, I put

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Speaker 2: too in his chest. That's a lawful you know, he's

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Speaker 2: put a knife up to my throat. He said, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna kill you. Lawful use of force if he does

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Speaker 2: the same thing to my wife or a friend of

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Speaker 2: mine that I'm walking down the street with. Again, lawful

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Speaker 2: use of force for me to draw my weapon, because

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Speaker 2: I can articulate this. This person had a lethal lethal

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Speaker 2: weapon up against me, threaten me with it. They forced

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Speaker 2: the confrontation. Clay that also comes into it. This is important.

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Speaker 1: I know this.

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Speaker 2: In Florida law, you can't I can't get into an

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Speaker 2: argument with somebody. And this is a very good nuance

656
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Speaker 2: in the law. I can't get in an argument. Somebody

657
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: pulls me over, go run into my house, get a gun,

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Speaker 2: go back out to you know, the street or the

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Speaker 2: bar or whatever. You can't bring them into a bar,

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Speaker 2: but you know, go go out and say, oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's go buddy.

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Speaker 1: That can be.

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Speaker 2: Taken into account. Now you're instigating the situation knowing you

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Speaker 2: have a firearm. That's different. Now you could be now

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00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: now you could be looking at a manslaughter situation. Right,

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Speaker 2: So in the case of law enforcement. Are they acting

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00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: within the scope of their of their actual position. And

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Speaker 2: we went through this even in the CIA, because I

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Speaker 2: had weapons in the CIA, and you know, even though

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Speaker 2: we were abroad, you had to be able to articulate

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Speaker 2: if you shot somebody as a CIA officer, they're going

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Speaker 2: to treat it just like your FBI or anybody else

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Speaker 2: right there, to treat it like a law enforcement situation.

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Speaker 2: So you have to be in the in the lawful

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Speaker 2: scope of your duties, and you have to be in

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Speaker 2: a reasonable fear of serious body harm yourself, you know,

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00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: for yourself or somebody immediately with you. Those are the

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00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 2: two big things. This video, to me proves beyond any

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00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 2: reasonable doubt the officer was acting in a lawful capacity,

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00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: dealing with somebody obstructing a lawful operation, and is hit

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00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: by a car that is clearly used as a weapon.

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Speaker 2: If you wanted to get away, if you wanted to

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Speaker 2: hit him, he can't tell the difference. So to me,

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00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: it's a very very clearly a clean shoot play based

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Speaker 2: on what a standard law enforcement use of force would be.

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Speaker 2: Let me hit you with a couple of other details.

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Speaker 2: For those of you who are not able to see

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00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: the video, and I understand we're sharing with you a

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00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: video talking about it on radio. This couple of details.

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00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: The wife, this woman was a lesbian and I don't

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00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: know she was officially married, but she had a partner

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Speaker 2: another woman. The wife is outside of the car. This

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00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: ice agent appears to be walking around the vehicle to

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Speaker 2: get the license plate to be able to have the information.

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00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: They are at parking blocking the road. As he is

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Speaker 2: asking her to get out of the car. One of

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Speaker 2: the ice agents is the wife says, drive baby drive.

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Speaker 2: She yells it, drive baby drive. She wants her partner

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Speaker 2: to flee. This interaction with the ice agent. You then

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00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 2: can see and again there has been a discussion. They've

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Speaker 2: tried to say, well, she just panicked, she didn't know

702
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Speaker 2: what she was doing. She was like her She is

703
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: actually obeying the command of her partner, and she looks

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00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 2: directly at the ice agent in front of her, who

705
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: is firing that shot, who fired the shots that killed her.

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Speaker 2: She is looking directly at him when she accelerates. So

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Speaker 2: some people tried to say, well, she never saw him,

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Speaker 2: like she wasn't aware that he was there.

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Speaker 1: She was no.

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Speaker 2: You can see his video shows her eyes looking directly

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00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: at him, and I just I think this is going

712
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: to end the story. But for everybody out there who

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00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 2: tried to demonize this guy and say that this ICE

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Speaker 2: agent was a murderer, like the mayor did, that the

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Speaker 2: argument that he was defending himself was bs like the

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Speaker 2: mayor did that. This was that he should be charged

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Speaker 2: with crimes like mayor, like Governor Tim Walls did. This

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00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: video completely refutes that. And Buck, you and I were

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Speaker 2: talking about off air.

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Speaker 1: We don't know.

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Speaker 2: This company, this media company, alphin News. Some of you

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Speaker 2: may in Minnesota know more about Alpha News. This is

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Speaker 2: a huge story for them, and it alphnews dot org.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to their website. This is the organization that

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00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: published the UH, that published the story. I don't know

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Speaker 2: anything about their predispositions, political dispositions, anything at all about it.

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Speaker 1: It seems like they.

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Speaker 2: May be a little bit right leaning, but the stories

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Speaker 2: that I'm seeing on the front of their website right now,

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Speaker 2: it appears to be a nonprofit UH. But this is

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Speaker 2: a huge coup for them. So again, you can go

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Speaker 2: watch it. I would encourage you to go watch it.

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Speaker 2: It has not yet I'm a little bit surprised by

734
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 2: this not yet aired on any of the cable news networks.

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Speaker 2: So they are not talking about this yet, but jd

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Speaker 2: Vance just tweeted Buck what the press has done in

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Speaker 2: lying about this innocent law enforcement officer is disgusting.

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Speaker 1: You should all be ashamed of your selves.

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Speaker 2: Can I just also point out that our nick reaction

740
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: to this, based on far less clear video footage is

741
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: nothing but confirmed by additional evidence and information. If that

742
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Speaker 2: were not the case, we would speak to you honestly

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00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: and about that and say, wow, I didn't see that

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00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 2: angle or I didn't realize that aspect of it. Maybe

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00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 2: this is but I would just note everything we find

746
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: out just goes more toward initially what we thought, which

747
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: I think is quite clearly a lawful use of force

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Speaker 2: for this officer. So nothing has gone with more information,

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Speaker 2: that position is strengthened without any change in that chain

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Speaker 2: of events. So I think that's indicative of something going

751
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: on here as well. And you know the other part

752
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: of it is Clay can mess around with people with

753
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: guns who are doing their job as law enforcement officers.

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Speaker 2: It's a really bad idea to do. So this should

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Speaker 2: be a and this is something that clearly they're like

756
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Speaker 2: training people to do this in different places.

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Speaker 1: This is not a game, all right.

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Speaker 2: It's not a game to get in a car in

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00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 2: snowy conditions and get in between cops they're dealing with.

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Speaker 2: Some of the people that these ice officers are arresting,

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Speaker 2: thousands of them, in fact, are not just illegals. There

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Speaker 2: are illegal petos, illegal rapists, illegal gang members, trend to Aragua.

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Speaker 2: They should we mentioned the trend to Aragua. Guy was

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Speaker 2: just involved in a shooting or got shot trying to

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Speaker 2: run his.

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Speaker 1: Car over people.

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Speaker 2: Yes, getting in the middle of this is a dangerous

768
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: and stupid thing to do and also a criminal It

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Speaker 2: is criminal play for a reason, you know, the same

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00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: way that it's illegal to block a highway.

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Speaker 1: It's a dangerous thing to do.

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Speaker 2: It is a stupid and dangerous thing to think that

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00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: you are blocking cops from doing their jobs because you

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00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: don't like federal law, you don't like the policies.

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00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: In effect, it's actually illegal to do that.

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Speaker 2: Also, this whole world that we have created where we

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00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: to incentivize people to walk around with their cell phones

778
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 2: and taunt other people while recording it in an effort

779
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: to try to get a reaction. But what they are

780
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 2: trying to do to ICE is exactly what happened. They

781
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 2: want to accelerate the negativity and in some way try

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00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: to get ICE agents misbehaving. The whole point of having

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00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: their cameras out and filming them and taunting them while

784
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: doing it is to get a viral moment that they

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00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 2: can share to try to make ICE look bad. And

786
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Speaker 2: I'll just say this again, it's something that I've been

787
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 2: advancing as a theory for quite some time. Bodycams basically

788
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: defeated BLM, god bless body camps once again. Body camera

789
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 2: footage shows just the truth of what happened, Clay. If

790
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 2: there was no video of this incident, there would be

791
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: a whole different situation playing out right now. You'd have

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Speaker 2: every Democrat going with the most you know, fanciful and

793
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: defendatory version of events to try to destroy this officer's

794
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: life and try to all because they want to undermine

795
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Speaker 2: efforts to enforce immigration law under the Trump administration. Because

796
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: we have video, it makes it a lot harder. And

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00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: because you have video from the officer's perspective, you know,

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00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: what is that officer supposed to wait until the suv

799
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Speaker 2: is like actually crushing him, like like the tires are

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00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: on his chest and then he's allowed to. I'm just

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00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: wondering what these lunatic libs think is going to be

802
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 2: the policy here going forward. So body cameras, they thought

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00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: Clay the left always thought that body cameras were going

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00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: to show how much police batality. There is no, It

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00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 2: actually shows how much Democrat voters are lunatics and the

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00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: cops are doing an amazing job. That's actually what body

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00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: cameras show over and over again. And then the rare

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00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,839
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00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,279
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Speaker 1: Welcome back in final hour of the week.

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Speaker 2: Let me update you a little bit as we are

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Speaker 2: finishing up fifteen hours, we're entering into the fifteenth hour

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Speaker 2: of the week with all of you. Fox News has

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Speaker 2: now played the video of the ice officer who fired

844
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Speaker 2: the shots killing the individual who was driving a car

845
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Speaker 2: directly at him. That becomes still has not played at

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Speaker 2: MSNBC or CNN, but again Fox News now playing the

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Speaker 2: video that we have been talking about for the last

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Speaker 2: hour or so that has gone viral, the bodycam officer view.

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Speaker 2: It appears that is essentially going to end this story

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Speaker 2: for anyone with a functional brain. Maybe there are still

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Speaker 2: some members of the legacy media who are going to

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Speaker 2: argue that this was somehow not a justified shooting, but

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Speaker 2: it will be collapsing in general. Now, we've talked about

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Speaker 2: this two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the United States,

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Speaker 2: and Brionna Lyman, who we had on right before the

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Speaker 2: end of the year to talk about history related issues,

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Speaker 2: is doing a really cool every day two hundred and

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Speaker 2: our nation's two hundred and fiftieth birthday, And Brianna, you've

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Speaker 2: got a really cool video that is up today for

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Speaker 2: those of us out there, like Bucking Me and you

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Speaker 2: who are big history people. Today is the two hundred

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Speaker 2: and fiftieth anniversary of the release of Common Sense. So

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Speaker 2: for people who might have forgotten some of their history, Brianna,

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Speaker 2: thanks for coming on with us. Thomas Paine's probably the

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Speaker 2: most most famous pamphlet of all time.

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Speaker 1: But what exactly occurred?

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Speaker 2: And how are people going to be able to now

871
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Speaker 2: pass their AP history exams or maybe impress their kids

872
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: who are in AP history like mine? Tell us what

873
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 2: happened two hundred and fifty years ago today and thanks

874
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: for coming on.

875
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 4: One hundred and.

876
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 8: Fifty years ago today. Didn't just change the fate of

877
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 8: eventually changed the world. So Thomas Pain is unlike any

878
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 8: of the other founders, And Thomas Pain is not necessarily founder,

879
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 8: but he's unlike any man of that generation. You have

880
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 8: Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Sam Adams, John Adams.

881
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 4: These are the.

882
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 8: Greatest thinkers of their time, but they don't speak in

883
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 8: a way that is necessary, necessarily palatable to the average

884
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 8: American and that's where Thomas Pain comes in. So Thomas

885
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 8: Pain has a very good prose where he is able

886
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 8: to deliver the ideas of the Revolution of Enlightenment in

887
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 8: a way that the average farmer or shopkeeper can understand.

888
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 8: So it comes out with common Sense today, two hundred

889
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 8: and fifty years ago. It's originally published anonymously, and the

890
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 8: big thing it does is it says to colonists, trust

891
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 8: what you feel. And he says, look, you were made

892
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 8: in God's image. God has made all meant equal. You

893
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 8: are not being treated as equal. You feel angry about that.

894
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 8: Trust those feelings. And at this point in the revolution,

895
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 8: a lot of colonists were still on the fence. They

896
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 8: didn't know if they wanted to be loyalist, if they

897
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 8: wanted to be neutral, or.

898
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 4: If they wanted to join the cause.

899
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 8: This pamphlet helps push so many people over the edge,

900
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 8: and it basically becomes the biggest best seller aside from

901
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 8: the Bible in seventeen seventy six.

902
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: Astonishing stuff.

903
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 2: And especially to do all this and to have such

904
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: impact Rihanna before Twitter and TikTok and Facebook and all

905
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 2: of these things. Although I guess you could say in

906
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: some ways the pamphleteers.

907
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: Of their era.

908
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 2: Was kind of the original viral, the original viral content right,

909
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: and had a tremendous, tremendous effect on those who read it.

910
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 2: Pain went on to get a little over his skis

911
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: in the French Revolution, if I remember.

912
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he actually did. He ended up in jail.

913
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 8: He in fact wrote to Washington basically asking for help.

914
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 8: And Washington, you know, is known as the guy that

915
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,479
Speaker 8: you don't get nasty with Washington, and you certainly don't

916
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 8: do it in public, And so I believe the stories.

917
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 8: When Washington ignored Paine's private letters for help, Pain went

918
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 8: and made those public, and Washington was irate. So Washington

919
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 8: did not set bit in help when Pain became troubled.

920
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 8: And when Paine died a few years later, only six

921
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 8: people attended his funeral because at the time he was

922
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 8: not considered this great enlightened thinker. He was, you know,

923
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 8: a rebel rouser. He caused a lot of problems in

924
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 8: brands and even in the colonies at some points. But now,

925
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 8: of course we look back and say this pamphlet changed

926
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 8: the course of the revolution and brought on colonists who

927
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 8: were on the fence.

928
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Speaker 2: Uh, Brionna for people out there, because I'm reading right now,

929
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,479
Speaker 2: I just finished to take These are big books. Rick

930
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: Atkinson has got a trilogy about the Revolutionary War. Volume

931
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 2: two just came out in the last six months or so,

932
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: and it's fantastic. What would you suggest you're a big

933
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 2: history person America two fifty, what couple of books or

934
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: what would you suggest would be a good way for

935
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: this audience and for people out there who may just

936
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 2: haven't experienced as much of American history as they would like.

937
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: What would you suggest they should seek out what would

938
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 2: be good to read?

939
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 8: Oh?

940
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm obviously common sense.

941
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 8: I think is great, especially because it's you know, time

942
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 8: period accurate and relative to today. John Dickinson his you know,

943
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 8: letters to the Farmer were really important in the years

944
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Speaker 8: prior to the Revolution.

945
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 4: And I think people should avoid.

946
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 8: Ken Burns documentary if that's my thing of what not

947
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 8: to do, just because I think it's a little bit

948
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 8: of a left wing tell of the American Revolution. But

949
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 8: primary documents are extremely important. Reading letters, I think, in

950
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 8: particular from John Adams, Hamilton Hancock, that's going to be

951
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 8: where you're going to feel the spirit of the revolution.

952
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 8: And also coming to my Twitter page and watching Countdown

953
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 8: to Freedom every day two minutes and less to talk

954
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 8: about the American Revolution.

955
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 2: So, so can you tell everybody about this so that

956
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 2: it's a great opportunity for you to pitch this to

957
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: a lot of.

958
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 1: We have we have history.

959
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this, Clay, I think we have one

960
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: of the biggest collections of history nerds in the world

961
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: right now.

962
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: I think that's all with us. We are all, we

963
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: are all.

964
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 2: We get excited about this Clay and I go into

965
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 2: tangents about random history stuff. He's a big Civil War guy.

966
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 2: I like, you know, ancient Greece and Rome and revolution stuff.

967
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 2: Not as big in the Civil War as Clay. But

968
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: people love history. Who are listening to you right now

969
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 2: out what is this two minutes and what are you

970
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 2: bringing together with it?

971
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

972
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 8: So I was inspired to do this because my seventh

973
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 8: grade grandfather served in the third Massachusetts Provincial Congress with

974
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 8: Hancock and Adams. So I feel like it's my obligation

975
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 8: to kind of carry the legacy of seventeen seventy six forward.

976
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 4: But basically, every day, in two minutes.

977
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 8: Or less, I want to walk viewers through what was

978
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 8: happening on this day in seventeen seventy six. Because a

979
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 8: lot of people think the revolution was easy, that it

980
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 8: was easy to convince the colonists to join the fight,

981
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 8: that it was kind of, you know, a one and done.

982
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 8: But it was not that sort of thing. The Enlightenment

983
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 8: ideas that the Founders were bringing to the American people

984
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 8: were not palatable. They were certainly not liked it anywhere

985
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 8: or any place in the entire world except for the colonies, really,

986
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 8: and the Founders did what no other people could do.

987
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 8: And you know, Buck, you mentioned the French Revolution. The

988
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 8: French wanted to replicate what we did and they fell.

989
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 8: They couldn't do it to the degree we did, and

990
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 8: we were the only people who could do it. So

991
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 8: this Countdown to Freedom is supposed to help Americans understand

992
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 8: just how intense the fight was for freedom and that

993
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 8: it was not given to us. It was won by

994
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 8: blood and sacrifice and a lot of.

995
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 4: Turmoil, Rihanna.

996
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 2: One thing that I think gets lost because I am

997
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: reading more and more about the Founding era, Bucks, Right,

998
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: I love the Civil War, but I've been reading more

999
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 2: and more about the Revolutionary era. The degree of intelligence

1000
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 2: and education from a historical perspective that all of our

1001
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 2: founding fathers had. I don't think gets talked about enough

1002
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: because they were trying to learn from all of the

1003
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 2: failures of history as it pertained to government when they

1004
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: were creating this new government, and they all spoke a

1005
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: common language. They understand the history, understood the history of

1006
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 2: Greece and Rome and everything throughout the course of human history.

1007
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: And this may be disappointing. How well do you think

1008
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: our current political leaders understand history and how much does

1009
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: that hamstring them often because they don't have the same

1010
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: depth of knowledge that two hundred and fifty years ago

1011
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: the guys who founded this country, we were fortunate enough

1012
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 2: did have.

1013
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, look, let's be honest. Thomas Pain for example,

1014
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 8: I think he dropped out of school and he was

1015
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 8: like twelve or thirteen years old. So many of the

1016
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 8: founders only got education up until maybe they're mid teens.

1017
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 8: But they were getting a good education, right. They're not

1018
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 8: being saddled with sociology and all this left wing you

1019
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 8: know drama we talk about today, environmentalist issues, racism, all

1020
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 8: that stuff. They were focused on the core things that mattered.

1021
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 8: The other thing that they had that we just do

1022
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 8: not have is they have a robust religious atmosphere. Right,

1023
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 8: Christianity was the impetus for the entire revolution because the

1024
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 8: founders looked and saw that the Bible says in Genesis,

1025
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 8: all men are created equal in God's image. Right, if

1026
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 8: all men are created in God's image, all men must

1027
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 8: be equal. They applied that fundamental Christian teaching to every

1028
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 8: single thing they did. That was the basis for the

1029
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 8: entire revolution. We don't have politicians one that are that religious,

1030
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 8: that understand religion and theology that deeply, and they don't

1031
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 8: really have a to guide them except for whatever is,

1032
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 8: you know, the flavor of the month. And that's the problem.

1033
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 2: What is if you're giving some recos here other than

1034
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 2: your two minutes of history, which I think a lot

1035
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 2: of people are going to be going.

1036
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: To check out.

1037
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 2: What are some either books, series, or movies on the

1038
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: Revolution that you would recommend to an audience of history

1039
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: super nerds.

1040
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 8: Well, I think my first go to place is go

1041
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 8: to Claremont Institute. I just did a fellowship this year.

1042
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 8: They are the premier thinkers of Enlightenment ideology and of

1043
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 8: the Founding and they have a ton of stuff you know,

1044
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 8: Charles Kessler, Glenn Elmurs. These are people that understand the

1045
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 8: founding in the way no one else does. They have videos,

1046
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 8: articles you go watch that. There's a great book called

1047
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 8: The Cause. I'm drawing a blank on the name. I

1048
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 8: think it's by guy with the first name John, but

1049
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 8: I'll tweet that out. I think also it's fun to

1050
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 8: watch movies like The Patriot, like Gettysburg. I know Gettysburg

1051
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 8: is obviously about the Civil War, but it really shows

1052
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 8: you because the Civil War was the last battle of

1053
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 8: the Revolution if we think about the Revolution as being

1054
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 8: all men are created equal. So those are really good

1055
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 8: movies just to kind of put you in that spirit

1056
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 8: and give you a backdrop that you may not necessarily

1057
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 8: get before you go dig into those deep and heavy readings.

1058
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 2: I have the Road to Charleston here, Clay, I'm looking

1059
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 2: at it. It's on the top of my next up stack.

1060
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: I have a stack of I have stacks of books

1061
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 2: that are my that's how I arrange these things. And

1062
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 2: I have the Road to Charleston just off camera, which

1063
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: gets into a whole lot of things, including the British

1064
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: huffiness about officers being shot that you see in the

1065
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: Patriot That was a real thing. They actually thought, Hey,

1066
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 2: how dare you shoot our officers? And the Americans were like, yeah, dude,

1067
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 2: we're shooting your officers. By the way, yeah, book, the

1068
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: cause is what you were referencing, the American Revolution and

1069
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 2: its discontents. I believe by Joseph Ellis, And I know

1070
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 2: we brought you on to talk revolutionary war, but I

1071
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 2: know you also are a civil war person. Did you

1072
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 2: see Tim Walls her to the current situation in Minneapolis

1073
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 2: as the equivalent of the third day of the Battle

1074
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 2: of Gettysburg, Brianna, Oh.

1075
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 4: Believe me. I did.

1076
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 8: And that was the most reckless thing on top of

1077
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 8: calling this murder that Tim Walls and the Democrats could do.

1078
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 8: Because we have watched over the past what two years,

1079
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 8: Democrats made clear they're in an open rebellion against the

1080
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 8: federal government and against federal immigration law. And then he

1081
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 8: doubles down on that and publicly basically says we're in

1082
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 8: like the little quasi civil.

1083
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 4: War at the federal government.

1084
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 8: If that is the case, then President Trump needs to

1085
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 8: respond accordingly. Two states that clearly want to succeed.

1086
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: There, we go, good sashlind Her at the federalist Brianna Lyman,

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Speaker 2: fantastic stuff. We'll have you on again and again two minutes.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you've got kids or grandkids out there that don't

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Speaker 2: have great long term commitment to history. You can share

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Speaker 2: some of these videos with her, including the Thomas Payne

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Speaker 2: information today. Thank you, Brianna, thanks so much. Credit card

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Speaker 2: bills are looking pretty large this month, especially if you

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Speaker 2: ran up a balance last month. Right now, you're looking

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Speaker 2: at you and go, oh, that's no fun Christmas shopping.

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Speaker 1: We'll do that though.

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Speaker 2: We all want to be generous, we all want to

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Speaker 2: play the role of Saint Nick at the end of

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Speaker 2: the year. So if you're looking for ways to soften

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Speaker 2: the cash flow crunch, switching your cell phone service is

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Speaker 2: just an easy way to put more cash on your

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Speaker 2: balance sheet. My friends, how about saving fifty dollars a

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Speaker 2: month by switching your cell phone service to Puretalk this month.

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Speaker 2: That'll save you about six hundred to one thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. That's right, in one year. You're

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Speaker 2: talking about a six hundred to one thousand dollars of savings.

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Speaker 2: And I can tell you Puretalk is my provider. I'm

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Speaker 2: on a Pure Talk Network. They're great at customer service.

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Speaker 2: My calls Crystal Clear. They're on the same five G

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Speaker 2: you can get down to twenty dollars a month for

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Speaker 2: unlimited talk, text and three gigs of high speed data

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Speaker 2: with pure Talk. It just can't beat these prices. Dial

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Speaker 2: pound two five zero Sake and Buck, and Pure Talk's

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Speaker 2: US customer service team will help you switch.

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Speaker 1: In minutes.

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Speaker 2: Dial pound two five zero say Clay and Buck talk

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Speaker 2: text and data for just twenty dollars a month. All

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Speaker 2: you gotta do dial pound two five zero, say Clay

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Speaker 2: and Buck and switch to pure Talk today.

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Speaker 7: Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do

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Speaker 7: a lot of it with the Sunday Hang Join Clay

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Speaker 7: and Buck as

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Speaker 5: They laugh it up in the Clay and Buck podcast

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Speaker 5: feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.