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Speaker 1: Oh yes, it is Hello Texans. Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 1: We are live Mark Vandermer and John Harris as we

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Speaker 1: discussed the Texans fifty three man initial roster, the first

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Speaker 1: version of this which will change. This is a construction

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Speaker 1: site that are always tinkering, always adding, subtracting, doing whatever.

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Speaker 1: We don't have the practice squads yet, but welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. As we dig in. You've been waiting for it.

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Speaker 1: Here it is our thoughts on the roster. Johnny Good evening.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw this at you because this is what

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Speaker 1: you'd like to do to me. What is your gut reaction?

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Speaker 1: What's the first thing that popped out to you when

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Speaker 1: you saw players who were now The way they released

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Speaker 1: is waved and released basically gone from the roster. But

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Speaker 1: waved means you haven't had as much time vested in

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Speaker 1: this league. Released means you're basically a free agent automatically.

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Speaker 1: So you tell me what jumped out to you when

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Speaker 1: you saw the cuts.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how do I say this? The uh?

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Speaker 3: I want to say this in a way that doesn't

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Speaker 3: sound kind of cockier, arrogant. Anyway you you kind of

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Speaker 3: knew this was kind of I would say if there

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Speaker 3: was any sort of surprise at all, I think the

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Speaker 3: fact that they had five running backs. Now, depending on

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Speaker 3: how you classify Bridige Brooks. You know, maybe British is

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Speaker 3: a fullback and there's four running backs in a full back.

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Speaker 2: You don't look at that way.

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Speaker 3: Okay, But we said all along, what were the hardest cuts?

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Speaker 3: You and I talked about this from day one. The

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Speaker 3: receivers were gonna be the hardest cut, and they kept seven. Now,

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Speaker 3: depending on how you classify Steven Simms, and I've said

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Speaker 3: this a few times. I've said this a few times,

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Speaker 3: like Steven Simms is probably more returner than he is

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Speaker 3: anything else, including receiver.

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Speaker 2: Now they'll use him.

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Speaker 3: At receiver for like bubble screens or you know, but

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Speaker 3: for the most part he's a returner. So maybe you

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Speaker 3: call it six receivers in return.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But in all honesty, I don't know there was anything

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Speaker 3: Mark that really was surprising. I think what gets tough

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Speaker 3: when you're trying to do a fifty three is you

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Speaker 3: don't know the injury status of some guys, like, for example, Jeffakuda.

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Speaker 3: You don't know what the injury status is a Jeffakuda

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Speaker 3: he's been out for a while. You don't have to

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Speaker 3: the vulge injuries, so you just don't know what his

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Speaker 3: status is. And the same for Kurt Heiinness. You know,

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Speaker 3: we didn't know what Kurt's status was. Was he injured?

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Speaker 3: You know, we didn't know Tim Settles, same thing. Tim

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Speaker 3: Settle's been out for a while. I don't even think

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Speaker 3: I think he's been He was out for five weeks,

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Speaker 3: like all of training camp. So I think when you're

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Speaker 3: trying to figure out your fifty three, you don't quite

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Speaker 3: know what to do with those guys. And I think

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Speaker 3: that's kind of where I was as far as like, well,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, ir you know what's gonna happen. I

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Speaker 3: think the the most the one that hit me the

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Speaker 3: hardest mark was Case and I, you know, it's one

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Speaker 3: of the things that you know, you end up you

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Speaker 3: end up seeing things.

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Speaker 2: Before they get reported.

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Speaker 3: And I happen to be walking from the cafeteria down

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Speaker 3: back to the office and I saw Case and I

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Speaker 3: just thought about, oh god, you know, like it is

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Speaker 3: you know what happened to him during that game? You know,

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Speaker 3: is he can end up being okay? And I saw

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Speaker 3: I don't want to I don't even want to go

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Speaker 3: just doesn't it doesn't look good. He just doesn't look happy,

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Speaker 3: like Okay, something's up. And then we find out, you know,

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Speaker 3: that his injury is a whole lot worse than just well,

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Speaker 3: you know, he went off the field. He's gonna be

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Speaker 3: out three to four months. And so I think that's

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Speaker 3: the one that hit me Mark, just also from an

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Speaker 3: emotional standpoint too, because you know, his contract with the

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Speaker 3: Texans is up this year. Does he want to continue

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Speaker 3: to play? If he does want to continue to play,

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Speaker 3: does he continue to do it?

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Speaker 2: Huge? God, I would hate it for somewhere else.

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Speaker 3: If he doesn't continue to play, then, holy cow, one

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Speaker 3: of the great quarterback careers of any quarterback in this city.

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Speaker 3: You know, days at University of Houston and then throughout

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Speaker 2: I mean, got last year with the Texans. What he did,

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Speaker 2: you know, to know? Oh my god, that's that's Is

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Speaker 2: it over?

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Speaker 3: Because I remember two thousand and nine, Mark Miseean Pendergast

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Speaker 3: it's like, holy cow, is it over now?

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Speaker 2: We don't know what it's gonna be. We don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, my guess this case will do everything possible

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Speaker 3: to continue to play, because that's just as a competitor

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Speaker 3: he is. But it's just that that sort of finality

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Speaker 3: kind of entered my brain, like, oh God, could that

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Speaker 2: But other than that, I don't know, Mark if there were.

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Speaker 3: Really any surprises at any point throughout kind of like yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: I could see that, Yeah, I see that. I know

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Speaker 3: people were talking about the Noah Brown, but it's like

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Speaker 3: he hasn't been around, he hasn't been available. So you've

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Speaker 3: got a really quality group of wide receivers and you

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Speaker 3: kept seven of them. So he just he wasn't available,

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Speaker 3: and all those guys you could say, outplayed him, I guess,

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Speaker 3: if you want to say it that way.

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Speaker 2: So they all deserve to be on the roster.

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Speaker 3: So I think from that standpoint, that was probably the

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Speaker 3: one that probably had people's antenna up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But other than that, I think everything pretty.

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Speaker 3: Kind of pretty much kind of fell in place once

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Speaker 3: we knew the injury status of guys. Then I felt like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Christian Harris is going on the i R designate to return,

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Speaker 3: so is Kurt Heinisch. I was like, okay, those those

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Speaker 3: gonna do when I saw that that Ali Gay and

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Speaker 3: Solomon Byrd were both waved and I think they'll both

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Speaker 3: continue to work with those guys because they've They've come

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Speaker 3: a long way. That actually made me feel pretty good

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Speaker 3: because I'm like, that means Will Anderson's probably ready. You're

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Speaker 3: not gonna You're not gonna go down to three defensive

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Speaker 2: That means Will Anderson is ready.

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Speaker 3: That means that Jerry and Derek are ready to go

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Speaker 3: alongside the Neil Hunter. So those are the four you'll

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Speaker 3: to me when I heard that news. But overall, I

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Speaker 2: What did you think? What was was anything shocking to

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Speaker 3: I mean, you and I have talked about this forever

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Speaker 3: I know there's nothing shocking to me, but how about you.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we got a lot to get into. So

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Speaker 1: I think Case definitely jumped out at me that it's

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Speaker 1: IR and he's not coming back, right, He's he's done

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Speaker 1: for the year, so you know, good for him, he

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Speaker 1: gets his contract, but you know he'd rather be out

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Speaker 1: there playing, of course, and participating in practice and just

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Speaker 1: being useful to the team that way. So that's really sad.

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Speaker 1: Obviously you're right about that. That did hit me as well.

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Speaker 1: The Noah Brown thing hit me in the way that, Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you keep seven wide receivers and you tell me

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Speaker 1: one of them's not no I'm like, oh really, I

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Speaker 1: figured Noah might be on IR, that they'd hang on

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Speaker 1: to Noah, he'd be on IR and maybe designated to return.

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Speaker 1: But it shows you how highly they think of what

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Speaker 1: Mechi's been able to do, what Xavier Hutchinson's been able

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Speaker 1: this the Robert Woods. I'm not gonna call it a

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Speaker 1: drama of this training camp. I mean, he's not dramatic,

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Speaker 1: that our thoughts about him, because when training camp began,

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Speaker 1: I said, Robert Woods is a lock to make this

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Speaker 1: football team. He's too valuable, he's too reliable. I literally

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Speaker 1: call him reliable Robert on the broadcasts. He's the guy

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Speaker 1: CJ's going to look for him. And I felt like

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Speaker 1: But if one of them are unavailable, who do you

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Speaker 1: really want stepping up here? You know, if you're CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud in the short term, you're thinking, I gotta have

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Speaker 1: match Hudginson whoever else is out there, but he needs

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Speaker 1: Robert Woods. And maybe I say this, look, this is

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Speaker 1: the initial fifty three. By next week, who knows if

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Speaker 1: Robert Woods is on his team or not, but he's

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Speaker 1: on it right now. And I am not surprised about that.

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Speaker 1: he's a return guy. Let's do running backs here, and

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Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on that, but let's

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Speaker 1: do running backs real quick, because you mentioned it. You've

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Speaker 1: got acres mixin Pierce, Dara and British Brooks. So Brooks

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Speaker 1: in the practice squad, I don't know. And maybe if

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Speaker 1: they have a game where they feel like they need

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Speaker 1: they elevate him. I don't know if they're gonna do

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Speaker 1: with cade Stover, even Schultz on occasion, and clearly, now

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Speaker 1: well maybe not so clearly, but apparently now British Brooks

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Speaker 1: can also do that. But Johnny, you got five running

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Speaker 1: backs here. Somebody's not dressing and that's gonna be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see you have seven wide receivers. Somebody's not dressing

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Speaker 1: on game day. I want to see who that is.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be really interesting. This is the next

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Speaker 1: little bit of a dramatic input we have here into

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Speaker 1: the equation. Who are the forty eight gonna be? Because

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Speaker 1: it's forty six plus the emergency third string quarterback? Oh,

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Speaker 1: we got to go there. Who's the emergency third string quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Is Boil back on the practice squad? Because you and

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Speaker 1: I talked about this possibility that it would be really

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Speaker 1: hard to get Case on the practice squad if healthy,

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Speaker 1: but you could probably get Boil on the practice squad.

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Speaker 1: Is it him or is somebody else coming in from

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Speaker 1: somewhere else? So a lot of thoughts that I want

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Speaker 1: to kind of stick to the offense here in the

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Speaker 1: early going on the show.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now, keep in mind the NFLPA. So when we

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Speaker 3: did our show Monday, we.

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Speaker 2: Talked about that, that situation.

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Speaker 3: We talked about roster, could you get a quarterback to

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Speaker 3: get you know, could you get Case to go to

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Speaker 2: Well, then not thirty minutes after our show. We found out.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I don't know that any of it's decided yet,

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Speaker 3: and we know two of them are Dara and Mixing.

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Speaker 2: Who's gonna be that third one?

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's British, you know, maybe Daria ends up, you know,

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Speaker 2: I can probably it's not it's not that way.

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Speaker 3: Like okay, he did it during preseason, But maybe British

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Speaker 3: If Steven Simms ultimately as the seventh wide receiver, whether

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Speaker 3: position flex at guard tackle. You kept Kendrick Green, He's

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Speaker 3: a guard for sure, Shaq, Kenyon Green, Kender Green.

434
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 2: Those are three guards.

435
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 3: You know they're guards, but Broker can be both. So

436
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 3: you've got three legit tackles, three legit guards. You've got

437
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 3: a guard tackle hybrid with Nick Broker, and then you've

438
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 3: got two guys that can play center in Juice and

439
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 3: with Jared Patterson, And that gives you my numbers.

440
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 2: I'm trying. I'm off of my numbers, but but.

441
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 3: That essentially is what you end up with there that

442
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 3: you've got some position flex. You're gonna bring eight to

443
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 3: every game so that you get that extra extra forty

444
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 3: seventh man on the roster on the game day roster.

445
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,160
Speaker 2: So you're gonna have eight.

446
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 3: So you're gonna have Laramie, Titus and Blake, You're gonna

447
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 3: have Kenyon and Shaq, and.

448
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,719
Speaker 2: More than likely Nick Broker.

449
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Speaker 3: I think that's six, and then you're gonna have Juice

450
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,199
Speaker 3: and Jared Patterson is my guest for right now. I

451
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 3: think that's the way they'll go. And then they'll they'll

452
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 3: put a few on the practice squad and look, it's

453
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 3: not you know, you've got a day to figure all

454
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 3: this out whether you want to make a waiver claim

455
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 3: now keep in mind, the Texans are twenty seventh in

456
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 3: the order of a waiver claim, so that means a

457
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 3: player's got to get all the way through. Everybody's got

458
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 3: to pass on the player. The Texans are gonna go

459
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 3: claim on waivers. Now they can go and sign players

460
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 3: that were vested veterans that were released. That's why you

461
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 3: see it on transactions. These guys were released, these guys

462
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 3: were waived. Guys that were.

463
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 2: Released you can sign immediately.

464
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Speaker 3: So we'll see some activity. There's there's always been one.

465
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Speaker 3: Always been one, maybe two in some cases, and some

466
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 3: years there's been three, maybe four, depending on where the

467
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 3: Texans were in the waiver wire.

468
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Speaker 2: So I think there'll be one.

469
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Speaker 3: I don't know if offensive line is where it is

470
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Speaker 3: because I look at that offensive line and think, okay,

471
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Speaker 3: this is it's it's pretty solid right now. Seemingly everybody's healthy.

472
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 3: I guess, so let's let's rock and roll. But I mean,

473
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised. I don't know if there'd be

474
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Speaker 3: i'd be a surprise to me. And anything offensively, like hey,

475
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Speaker 3: they go out and get a third quarterback, you know,

476
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Speaker 3: Bailey's Appy's out there.

477
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Speaker 2: Des Been Ritter Desmon Ritters available, do you go and

478
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 2: find a gut?

479
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: Again, like I said, you're on the twenty seventh on

481
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 3: the waiver list, so that could be kind of tough.

482
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Speaker 3: But like I said initially, Mark, I don't know that

483
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Speaker 3: any of that, any of that surprised me whatsoever, with

484
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 3: who they kept and how they played and what they

485
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 3: did in preseason games. And I mean I watched every

486
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 3: single one on one rep that they had offense against

487
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 3: defense and felt pretty good going in. Okay, I kind

488
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 3: of know how this offensive line thing is gonna go.

489
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Speaker 3: I just don't know what's the number gonna be. Is

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Speaker 3: it gonna end up being ten or nine? And my

491
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 3: tenth was cam Irving and then came to make it,

492
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, they're keeping nine. And that's that's

493
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Speaker 3: what they ended up doing, keeping the nine.

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Speaker 2: All right?

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00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: So next up defense, let's get to it. And some

496
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Speaker 1: injury information that the team released today significant to week

497
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Speaker 1: one and beyond, and some guys who might be healthier

498
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Speaker 1: than we thought. We'll discuss next year on Texans Radio,

499
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: Mark Patrimaher and John Harris with you crunching on the roster.

500
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 1: If you joined us lateh Texans keep seven wide receivers,

501
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: including Steven Simms. Noah Brown no longer with the team.

502
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: For now.

503
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: I say for now, because you never know in this business.

504
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: Running backs they go with five. Nobody is a pure fullback.

505
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: British Brooks makes the roster. Juwar Jordan not with the team.

506
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: Offensive line nine they keep two quarterbacks, Case Keenum on

507
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 1: Ir Damian Pierce. Yes, he's one of those running backs.

508
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,959
Speaker 1: By the way, Case Keenum on Ir and not designated

509
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: to return. So Case's season is over, unfortunately, to say

510
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: the least. Let's get to the defense, though we did

511
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 1: offense in the first segment, Johnny, defense now, and you

512
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: said it at the get go when we're going over

513
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: highlights of this thing. Great to see Will Anderson Junior,

514
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: not obviously you're gonna see him on this roster, but

515
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: not on IR or anything. Will who's missed a bunch

516
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: of practice this camp, looks like he's gonna be healthy enough,

517
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: certainly not be on IR. So let's hope he's healthy

518
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 1: enough for opening day. Practice is open tomorrow. We'll have

519
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: plenty to say tomorrow night about that situation. And as

520
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,239
Speaker 1: we look at the line, I don't think there are

521
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: any real surprises. But oh, here's a guy who might

522
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: be healthier than we thought. Tim Settle, three hundred and

523
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: thirteen pound defensive tackle, former Buffalo Bill. That's good to see. Fully, Fantacasi,

524
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: Khalil Davis. They're the other DT's, by the way, Kurt

525
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: Heinisch and Mario Edwards at defensive tackle. Kurt Heinish designated

526
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: to return, but he's on IR to start the season. Johnny,

527
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: what about that line?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, one of the things I was I

529
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 3: was a little worried about Mark. I've been thinking about

530
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: this for a little while. It was pretty clear the

531
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 3: top three defensive tackles were Fully, Mario and Khalil. It

532
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 3: was pretty obvious.

533
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: And last year.

534
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 3: When you know, the game would start with Malik and

535
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 3: Sheldon and then at some point Kurt and Khalil would

536
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 3: come in and they would create some havoc. They were upfield,

537
00:25:55,040 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 3: they're penetrating, but they were pretty similar to the guys

538
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 3: that were in front of them.

539
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 2: I mean, they were all.

540
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Speaker 3: About three hundred pounds at that time, and you know,

541
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 3: pretty quick can penetrate. I always kind of like defensive tackles,

542
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: I'd like want to be a little heavier and so

543
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 3: I am starting to get a little worried, like, Okay,

544
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: who do you play with Kohlil?

545
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 2: Like who's gonna be that fourth guy with Khalil?

546
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: Because your options at the time were Marcus Harris, who

547
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 3: was an undersized rookie defensive tackle uh McTelvin a game

548
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 3: that made a little bit of sense, but you know,

549
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: he's even not that big. He's like three zero five,

550
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 3: And you really didn't have many options after that. So

551
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: when I saw that Settle was not IRDs, Settle was

552
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 3: not put on any kind of pump or anything.

553
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: I thought, Okay, this is good.

554
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 3: Settle with Kohalil with the second group, and Foley and

555
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: Mario with the first group. Like I like that because

556
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 3: Settles as big as a house. I mean, he's got massive,

557
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 3: broad shoulders. I mean he's just a he's an eighteen wheeler.

558
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 3: So you've got fully three hundred and twenty pounds, big, quick,

559
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: fast to go with Mario, who is probably built a

560
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 3: little lighter kind of the mold of Malik and Sheldon.

561
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: But then you've got Khalil and then you've got Settle.

562
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 3: That's a pretty good kind of one two punch, you know,

563
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 3: you know, first group, second groups sort of thing where

564
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 3: you've got size and quickness, size and quickness in both

565
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: of the groups, and so I just don't know, quite

566
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 3: honestly what Settle is as a player in this defense

567
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: because we haven't seen it. He got hurt so early

568
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: in training camp. I mean, he went five weeks without

569
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: you know, being on the field, so he's got to

570
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 3: go through all that, you know, kind of build your

571
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 3: body up in callous to the physicality during the season,

572
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 3: which can be a little bit daunting. And again I

573
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: go back to we don't know. We still don't even

574
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 3: know if Settle. I mean, he's on the roster, he's

575
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 3: not put an ir so you'd like to think that

576
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 3: he's one hundred percent and ready to go.

577
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 2: He may not be. He may not be.

578
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 3: It maybe one of those situations where he's a week

579
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 3: or two away, but you had to put him on

580
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: the fifty three to make sure the numbers were right

581
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff.

582
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: So you're gonna have to kind of figure.

583
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 3: All that out whether he is ready to go and

584
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: he's gonna be one hundred percent by the time Indianapolis

585
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: rolls around, because if not, then either you're gonna have

586
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,959
Speaker 3: to practice squad Sosa and Marcus and then pick between

587
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 3: one of them or you're gonna have to go hit

588
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: the waiver wire. Make a deal to bring in an

589
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 3: interior guy to add to the group.

590
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: All right, so let's get to linebackers here. We can

591
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: get back to the D line as needed. So Christian

592
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: Harris is on IR designated to return. So that's a

593
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: real bummer. We were just hoping that somehow, someway he

594
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: comes out of a phone booth makes it to week

595
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: one practice plays against the Colts. Not gonna happen, but

596
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: you have as he's Al Schier of course, uh manning

597
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: things on the defense. I mean, never mind the linebacking

598
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: r the entire defense. He's he's just the quarterback of

599
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: that thing. Jake Hanson has done well in this camp,

600
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: Henry Toata, we can get to him. You told me

601
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: he's really improved this year. Good to see Neville Hewitt

602
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: special teams machine and also good linebacker. You can play him.

603
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: Interesting to see that del Sean Phillips and Jamal Hill

604
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: make the initial fifty three. Hill the rookie from Oregon.

605
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: So he's made some plays. Del Sean Phillips number thirteen.

606
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: If you were watching on TV or in the building.

607
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: Another linebacker on the initial fifty three wouldn't surprise me.

608
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: If somebody ended up here from somewhere else. You never know,

609
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: but this is the lot they're going to war with.

610
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: And remember two linebackers on the field most of the time,

611
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: because they're in nickel or dime the majority of the time.

612
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: So you got to remember you're playing two most of

613
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: the time. So we'll see how it works out. Your

614
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: thoughts on this bunch, This bunch didn't.

615
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: Surprise me at all.

616
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: I thought it was gonna be five, and I thought

617
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: they would bring Jamal Hill back on practice squad because

618
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: I think Jamal still got a little bit of a

619
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: ways to go playing linebacker, and I thought that del

620
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: Sean would be the fifth one. But it played out

621
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 3: it's just they get Jamal Hill, like, Okay, that's great.

622
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 3: I think that Jamal might be one of those guys

623
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: that is inactive at least to start his career, and

624
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: that's fine. But I think with his linebacker group, you're

625
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 3: talking about Jake Hanson, del Sean Phillips, and Neville hewittt

626
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: three of your best core four special teamers, and I

627
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 3: don't know who will be the third linebacker when they

628
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: go into their true four to three set. I mean,

629
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Speaker 3: it's been Jake, but the way that Nevill Hewitt stops

630
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: the run, that might be something they try and get

631
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 3: Neville on the field for at some point point. Being

632
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 3: you're gonna, like you said, play two most of the time,

633
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: and that's gonna be a z's in Henry at least

634
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 3: through the first four weeks, you would imagine. But you

635
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 3: got to have the next three guys in Jake Hanson,

636
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 3: Nevill Hewitt, and del Sean Phillips because they are you

637
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: know del Sean when he signed, and my immediate thought was, Okay,

638
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 3: that just makes the number one special teams units in

639
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: the league that much better because he's going to be

640
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: a special teams guy. And I think he's done well linebacker,

641
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: but I think it's special teams. So you get Jake Hanson,

642
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: Neville Hewitt, and del Shaun Phillips on all four of

643
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: your special teams and that's just gonna make you that

644
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 3: much better. So I wasn't really surprised at this group.

645
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: If there was a surprise, it was that they did

646
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: keep Jamal Hill as a sixth linebacker on that group.

647
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 3: I thought they would go with five and then maybe

648
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: try and add an additional lineman to the mix. But again,

649
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: you said this, I've said it. It bears repeating. This

650
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 3: is the initial fifty three man roster. Things can change

651
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 3: over the next twenty four to forty eight hours. You know,

652
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: new guys can be brought in to go to practice squad,

653
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: a new guy or two could be brought into the.

654
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: Actual fifty three man roster.

655
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: So there will still be transactions of plenty over the

656
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: next day or so until they get this thing kind

657
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: of into the weekend and then solidify it at least

658
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: for the time being as they head into the practice

659
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: week against the Colts.

660
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: All Right, when we talk about dbs, prior to this

661
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: era of Texans football, certainly Demiko maybe Lovey too, but

662
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: they were listed as DBS, all of them. But I

663
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 1: find it interesting they have ten defensive backs and Jalen

664
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: Petrie still listed as a safety. We've seen him play

665
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: almost nothing but nickel in this camp, so we'll see.

666
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: We'll watch together. Third year at a Baylor. Of course,

667
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: Petre's out there, and Jimmy Ward and Eric Murray, who's

668
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: getting a ton of first team reps as a safety,

669
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: and Derek Stingley Junior and Kamari Lassiter those are your

670
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: starting five basically, and then we look at what they

671
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: did depth wise here and I know you love this.

672
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: I love it too that Miles Brian has made this

673
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: football team the initial fifty three? Where's number thirty? You

674
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: know he can return punts for you if you need it,

675
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: he can be You think he's the backup nickel right now,

676
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: right the way you look at this setup here because

677
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: Desmond King is no longer a Texan and again he

678
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: was let go before came back, but right now he's

679
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: out of Texan, so you think Brian is certainly the

680
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: second team nickel. What do you think here with Jeff

681
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: Akuda making the team at cornerback the initial fifty three?

682
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: Chris Boyd good to see him because he got a

683
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: little nicked up and I hope he's good to go

684
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: week one. What do you think of this group?

685
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: Well, Chris, Chris Boyd to me was making the team

686
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 3: leading into that game against the Rams, and it was

687
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: when he got that injury. And I showed you I

688
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: had two things. I had my board that I had

689
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: for the game where had all my notes and it

690
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 3: just eight and a half by eleven, not an SI

691
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: sized poster like Andre has, just eight and a half

692
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: by eleven, And I had on both sides. I had

693
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 3: the Texans you know notes that I had, and then

694
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 3: I had a second one where I had when I

695
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: thought the fifty three was gonna be and I had

696
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 3: Chris Boyd in my corner section. And then when he

697
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: gets hurt and he you know, they really they cart

698
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 3: him off.

699
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh gosh, oh man, right now, oh man,

700
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: Let's see what happens. And then at that.

701
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: Point you don't know what Akuda's status is. Henderson's not

702
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 3: dressed out. I just I did not have throughout training

703
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 3: camp a good read on CJ.

704
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: Henderson at all, Like at all, I didn't.

705
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 3: He was hurt for like two and a half weeks,

706
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 3: and he came back and then he would do some things,

707
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 3: and then he just he just seemed like he was

708
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 3: out there. I don't know, it just felt kind of strange.

709
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 3: So I just knew something was kind of up with that.

710
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 3: But I just didn't know what a Kuda's status was

711
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: because he's been out for I think in Ohio is

712
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 3: when he got hurt, I think, and that was what

713
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 3: three years ago, so I think that's when he got hurt,

714
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 3: and so we hadn't seen Akoudas, so we didn't know.

715
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: And it could be the same thing again like we

716
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: talked about with Tim Settle. Might be one hundred percent,

717
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: are close to it, could be ready to go for practice.

718
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: In fact, we'll find out more tomorrow when we had

719
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: the first practice with this group, and we'll see kind

720
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: of what it looks like.

721
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: And I think some of the practice squad guys can go.

722
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. But either way, the guys that have

723
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: made the roster, Tim Settled.

724
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: Jeff Okuda, they will be out there at practice, I

725
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: would think, and so that'll give us a little better

726
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: read on Okay, these guys are ready to go or no,

727
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 3: they just wanted to make sure they were on the

728
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 3: fifty three man roster. But they're not quite ready to

729
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: go uh at tomorrow. Maybe they are next week, who knows.

730
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: But either way, I don't want to say any of

731
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: that surprised me. Chris Boyd I thought deserved and he

732
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 3: again another special teams superstar, so he did some good

733
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 3: things for us on special teams when he was in

734
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:31,479
Speaker 3: the games.

735
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: At the end of last year. So having him back

736
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: not a big surprise.

737
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 3: You know Kamari and you know Derek Stingley, those two

738
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 3: upfront and you're.

739
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: Good to go.

740
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: What I loved. What I loved was that Miles Bryant

741
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: would go in. They would put him with the threes.

742
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 3: You know, Petrio go the first nickel, then Desmond King

743
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 3: would go the second nickel, and then Desmond or then

744
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 3: Miles are going with the third. He would be on

745
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: the field and you're like, man, that's a good play

746
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 3: by Miles. Man, look at that he picked the ball.

747
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 3: Oh man, he had two. He's got two picks today,

748
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: I'm telling you. And Miles brons made some plays. And

749
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: you know me, I was crowing about it for a

750
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 3: long time because I'd watched Miles at University Washington and

751
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 3: I love the dude.

752
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: I absolutely love the dude because he's just he's a

753
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: pure ballplayer.

754
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 3: And when he went to the Patriots, I was like, man, figures,

755
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 3: now that's the kind of guy that Florista's and he did.

756
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 3: He did a really nice job for the Patriots. They

757
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: changed coaching staffs. He then moves on, he comes here

758
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 3: and every single day he just did something that was

759
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 3: just football. It was like, man, these are kind of

760
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: the guys you gotta have on the roster. And look,

761
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 3: he can return punts too. That was something that he's

762
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: done in his career as well. He's always back there

763
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 3: with the punt returners, so he could do that as well.

764
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 3: But I was just glad to see that a guy

765
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: was rewarded, like British Brooks for having a five week

766
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: really strong training camp, like all that, all the talk

767
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: about training camp and iron sharpens iron and you show

768
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: up and you compete every day. Those guys weren't handed

769
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: jobs at all. They went out and got them. And

770
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 3: on a team that is loaded with players loaded, those

771
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 3: two guys British Brooks and Miles Bryant came here and said,

772
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 3: I just work.

773
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: I just do my work.

774
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 3: And whether they're a little bit too small for this positional,

775
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 3: to be big for this position, they don't quite fit here,

776
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: they don't quite fit there. They're ball players and you

777
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 3: just can never have too many of them. And Miles,

778
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: to me, is a lot like Dez Is. He's a

779
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: lot like Desmond King. The things that Dez does in

780
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: a football field, Miles does it too. So I know

781
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: that had to be a really difficult decision. And you know,

782
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: Dez was let go at the end of last year's camp,

783
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: came back and ended up being a factor of the

784
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 3: last seven eight weeks.

785
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 2: Said, you're a big factor for this defense.

786
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: And who's to say that won't happen again. But right

787
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 3: now they've kind of got a little bit younger, a

788
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 3: little bit smaller, but just as productive Dez. And his

789
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 3: name is Miles Bryant, and I he's just glad to

790
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: see that guys that had really good training camps were

791
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 3: rewarded with spots on the fifty three man roster, even

792
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 3: if it is just the initial fifty three man roster.

793
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 3: Those dudes bault out every single day and earned the

794
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: trust of their coaching staff to a point where they

795
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: made the roster.

796
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: I just absolutely love that.

797
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and some of the guys they let go of

798
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: have had injury issues.

799
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: For a bit, right.

800
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean, we like Charlie hecking Off a lot. Charlie

801
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 1: was hurt a lot of last year. He was hurt

802
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: this camp. It's just sad to see. If he stays healthy,

803
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: you got a feeling he's gonna be on this team.

804
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: But he just couldn't do it. Andrew Beck. I don't

805
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: know what the injury is, so that's too bad for him,

806
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: but he's not here right now. You look at Noel Brown.

807
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: I don't know what the injury is, but he's not here.

808
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: And he was backed up last year too from time

809
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: to time and did make some huge plays for this team.

810
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: You got to thank him for that, thank him for

811
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: his service. And again sometimes these guys end up back

812
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: on the roster. Look at Desmond King last year. I

813
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't be totally shocked if injuries would were to occur

814
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 1: in the defensive backfield and somehow des back. But he'll

815
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: be scooped up by somebody. But maybe he's available again

816
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: he was last year. You you don't know. Never this business,

817
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: it's never goodbye. It's you know, goodbye for now and

818
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: see what happens later. All right, coming up, little review

819
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: on this situation as the fifty three man the initial

820
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster comes out with practice tomorrow. What

821
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: else happened around the League of note, we've got some

822
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: notes on that here on Texans All Access.

823
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: All right.

824
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: In addition to and I don't know if they did

825
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: this as a news dump today, Johnny, I don't think

826
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: they did. The NFL adopted the policy of allowing private

827
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: equity ownership in teams. Now it's only gonna be ten percent.

828
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: That's the cap. Ten percent of a team that can

829
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: be available for investors. But it's not like the Green

830
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: Bay Packers kind of thing. It's not like, oh, I

831
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: could pay ten bucks and own stock in the Houston Texans.

832
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: Doesn't work that way. These are big Bucks three percent minimum.

833
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: But get this. Owners can invest in private equity firms

834
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: that have pieces of other teams. So the McNair's could

835
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: own a piece of a Cowboys, for instance, if the

836
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: Cowboys wanted to make ten percent available for investors. So

837
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: there are a lot of different different elements here that

838
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: are kind of interesting and we can get to the

839
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: details of this later. I think it's a good one

840
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,959
Speaker 1: for Nick Cassio. I bet he's all over this because

841
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 1: you know, he watches squawk Box on the Business Channel

842
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, so that might be interesting.

843
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 2: That's his thing, football, squawk Box. He will be all

844
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 2: over that.

845
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, excellent. You know, I would love it. You know,

846
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: I think the Green Bay thing, if you just made

847
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, five percent, And by the way, if

848
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: you invest through one of these private equity firms. You

849
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 1: have no voting rights, so you can't send the letters.

850
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: I think we should fire their coach. You can't do

851
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: any of that stuff. Okay, every team has limited partners.

852
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: They own a nice chunk of the team. It's a

853
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 1: little chunk, but it turns into a big chunk over time.

854
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: It's all relative, but they don't have voting rights. They

855
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: get a lot of information, but they don't get voting

856
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: rights as to what happens with team decisions. Anyway, I

857
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: just thought i'd mentioned that one anything jump.

858
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: Out to you.

859
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: I got Kareem Jackson. He's available again. As the Buffalo

860
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 1: Bills said goodbye to Kareem on cutdown day, I think Kareem,

861
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how well he's running these days. He

862
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: could probably get another job in this league. The Bills

863
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: really tried to fortify the d with all the losses

864
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 1: they had. By the way, Juju Smith Schuster now Kansas

865
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: City chief. That didn't break today, but he could be

866
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: available as early as week one for that team. Unbelievable

867
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: that Juju is still around. I'm curious, you know, speaking

868
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: of guys like that that didn't seem to have that

869
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: much left Ezekiel Elliott and the Cowboys. I think everybody's

870
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: really curious to see how that one works out. But

871
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: anything else jump out to you on cutdown day around

872
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: the NFL.

873
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 3: No, I think actually the biggest thing that happened mark

874
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 3: was right here in Houston, and that was Case. And

875
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 3: just thinking about what, you know, was that the last

876
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: week we've seen of Case Keenum and and I hope,

877
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: I hope it's not. You know, I've always you know,

878
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: talked two guys. I'm like, man, you play footballs for

879
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 3: as long as you can, because when it's over, it's over.

880
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you.

881
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: Don't just go, hey, man, let's go play pick up

882
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: tackle football over at the why you know, now, basketball

883
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: you can do that's soccer, you can definitely do that.

884
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: He plays softball league, you know, all that kind of stuff,

885
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 3: but you just don't do that for football. And it

886
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 3: just made me think about what Case. You know, when

887
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: he got into the you know, he got into the league.

888
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 3: He played forever U of h He gets into the league,

889
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 3: you know, he's on a practice squad.

890
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: He basically sits the whole first year.

891
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: Then at thirteen he gets on a field, but he

892
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: can't win a game or doesn't win a game. But then,

893
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 3: to me, the legend of case Keenum grows when he

894
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: comes out of that that duck blind or deer blind

895
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 3: and beats the Ravens in twenty fourteen and then wins

896
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: the next game, the finale against the Jaguars, and I

897
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 3: just and then of course his legend was cemented last

898
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: year when we go to you know, go to Tennessee

899
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: and he beats the former Houston Oilers wearing those jerseys,

900
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: you know, the King of Houston. I just had all

901
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 3: those thoughts kind of as I saw that news and

902
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: I saw Case in the hallway, and I just, you know,

903
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 3: I hope it's I hope it's not the end of

904
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: his story with this team and around this team in

905
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four But man, that was probably the one

906
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 3: that hit me the most, Mark just just because of that.

907
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: He was one of the first players that that Sean

908
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 3: and I when we were on a different radio station together,

909
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: that we had a chance to talk to on a

910
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 3: you know, on a weekly basis.

911
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: I always thought that was really cool.

912
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 3: So I don't know, that was just one that hit

913
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 3: me kind of kind of rough, Like man, I and

914
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: then I heard it was like three or four months,

915
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: and I was like, man, oh, this is just a

916
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 3: gut punch. But hopefully he can still be around the team.

917
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,479
Speaker 3: Hopefully he travels to games and he's just there because

918
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 3: I think everybody benefits, you know, from a guy like

919
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: that and and that guy particular.

920
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean case. I hope he plays again. Excuse me,

921
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: but you just never know at thirty seven years old,

922
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: which is what it'll be. What about the Browns keeping

923
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: four quarterbacks?

924
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: What the heck? I know they're they're trying to deal one.

925
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: I think it sounds like they're entertaining offers for Jamis,

926
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 3: But I feel like teams are just saying, are daring

927
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: the Browns, Like, go ahead, how happy are you with

928
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: your starting quarterback? Yeah?

929
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: Because keeping four tells us now it might not be.

930
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 3: So I'm really curious to see how this all goes

931
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 3: down with Cleveland. It's the only team that kept four

932
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 3: in all all you know, of course, in the entire NFL,

933
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 3: is the only one to kept four. So mister Shawn

934
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 3: not healthy. I know they tried to move DTR and no, no, no,

935
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 3: we're not moving DTR. We're gonna trade Jamis or whatever.

936
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 3: So it's it's an interesting experiment. I'm glad we don't

937
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 3: play the Browns this year. I just I'm glad we

938
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 3: don't have that to deal with, But I'm gonna be

939
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: an interested watcher with that team in that quarterback situation.

940
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. Well the other thing is this, they're

941
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: a contender if they're fully healthy. I mean, come on,

942
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco brought them where he brought them last year.

943
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: Now they got horizon jobbed by the Houston Texans. I mean,

944
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: they just disappeared on the horizon with all the points

945
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: that Texans were putting up in that game. So that's

946
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: a sailboat racing term, by the way.

947
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's good, it's not bad.

948
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: So I'm always curious about them, and for other reasons

949
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: as well. But we'll see what happens. I mean, didn't

950
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: Watson leave a practice last week with some armed sorenus.

951
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: That's not good for them. I mean, there are a

952
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: couple of weeks away from the opener here, so we'll

953
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: see how it goes. Texan's not playing the Bengals either,

954
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: that's another contender out of that division. Hey, the Steelers

955
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: won ten games. I don't know what they're gonna do

956
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: this year with their quarterback situation. But they won ten

957
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 1: games and Kenny Pickett and Mason Rudolph guided them there

958
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: along with that really opportunistic defense, so you never know.

959
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do a for tonight show, it's

960
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: been a fun one going over this fifty three. This

961
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: is gonna be up on the Odyssey app in moments

962
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: if you missed any of it, as Johnny and I

963
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: went through it the way the crew goes through the

964
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: NCAA tournament bracket on selection Sunday. I mean, we went

965
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: through this thing in great detail. So if you missed it,

966
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: go back and listen to it on the Odyssey app

967
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: and later on Houston Texans dot com. We'll have the

968
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: podcast for you. You know who's coming.

969
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: Up Area forty five.

970
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Speaker 1: Patrick Sean take it away. Thank you Chris for producing.

971
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Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow at six. Have a great night,

972
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: Go Texans.