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Speaker 2: Since where I am am moving day is moving day,
Speaker 2: A lot of things come along with that damn six
Speaker 2: am moving trunk. Excuse to me every time, thoughts and prayers.
Speaker 2: I've been through enough moves. If anyone followed my NFL career,
Speaker 2: they would have seen that. I actually at one point
Speaker 2: thought I shouldn't like create a moving company because I
Speaker 2: feel like I've got this kind of figured out at
Speaker 2: this point.
Speaker 3: So it's a pain of yass. It is a miserable experience.
Speaker 3: It is done it a couple of times, and.
Speaker 2: I hate it. I think the hardest thing about it, too,
Speaker 2: is you gotta get rid of stuff. And for some
Speaker 2: of us out there who are sentimental, especially on the holidays,
Speaker 2: it can be tough. Like there's there's that stuff that
Speaker 2: you want to keep that you're like, oh I remember when,
Speaker 2: or this brings babe back to a good time, or
Speaker 2: even like clothes sometimes you're like, oh no, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: wear that. I'm gonna wear that in a couple months
Speaker 2: when the weather changes a little bit. Just just get it.
Speaker 2: You haven't wonn it, and probably I don't know, six
Speaker 2: months a year you don't word enough, just just get
Speaker 2: rid of it. Well, what's donating to someone who does? So,
Speaker 2: what's the trick? They say, you're closing the closet, you
Speaker 2: turn them, you turn the hangar around the other way.
Speaker 2: And if at the end of the year you didn't
Speaker 2: turn it back, it means you never used it. It means
Speaker 2: you probably don't need it, so you just toss it.
Speaker 2: But some people struggle with that, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll say this though, who says the NFL
Speaker 3: doesn't deliver some great games?
Speaker 2: Huh? Yeah? Football? You know how much? Says that.
Speaker 3: The NFL is slowly wrapping up what has felt like
Speaker 3: the longest week of NFL football that I can recall
Speaker 3: that in a long ass time.
Speaker 2: But before you dive in on that, Yes, back during COVID,
Speaker 2: you and I used to talk about this and this
Speaker 2: past week was essentially a sample of what it would
Speaker 2: be like if we had NFL games throughout the course
Speaker 2: of the week, including on Sunday. And I gotta be
Speaker 2: honest with you, I didn't like it as much as
Speaker 2: I thought I would, But at the same time, I
Speaker 2: liked having the opportunity to watch more teams and standalone
Speaker 2: windows throughout the course of the week. I don't know
Speaker 2: how you felt, but for me, for a lot of
Speaker 2: my buddies too, especially those guys who like to gamble
Speaker 2: a little bit, it became more attractive and more fun
Speaker 2: from that standpoint. But that being said, what became very
Speaker 2: apparent was the lack of parody in the league as
Speaker 2: we had what eight games I think, you know, we
Speaker 2: were decided by more than one score two score games.
Speaker 2: I mean it's old more than that, Like this is
Speaker 2: how bad it is.
Speaker 3: It's easier to count the number of good games, Like
Speaker 3: what were the real good games that we got over
Speaker 3: the past several days. Cincinnati and the only reason Cincinnati
Speaker 3: and Denver was good is because the Bengals clock management
Speaker 3: was so atrocious at the end of that game that
Speaker 3: they thought it was a good idea to score with
Speaker 3: a minute and change left to go and Denver having
Speaker 3: time out.
Speaker 2: Apparently that was I mean last night Washington and Atlanta
Speaker 2: was good. Yeah, that was good. And then I mean,
Speaker 2: here's the thing is like Seattle Chicago was close. I
Speaker 2: don't know, any game. Yeah, that's just awful football. Like
Speaker 2: I'm I'm.
Speaker 3: Watching going look this is what we've as you mentioned,
Speaker 3: we've talked about to where hey, you get games all
Speaker 3: the time. Also to your point on the standalone stuff,
Speaker 3: totally agree because one of the things that I feel
Speaker 3: like the NFL could do a better job of, and
Speaker 3: they do a lot of things great and you know,
Speaker 3: we get you know called out.
Speaker 2: Oh you guys are just all you guys do is
Speaker 2: a fanboy for the league, dude.
Speaker 3: One of the things the NFL could do a better
Speaker 3: job of is spacing out some of the games. Like
Speaker 3: there are times to where you have so many early
Speaker 3: window games on a Sunday and then just a few
Speaker 3: of the later games. And I've always felt like to
Speaker 3: actually get to take in and watch all these teams
Speaker 3: and see these storylines and whatnot.
Speaker 2: You do need to space it out a little bit.
Speaker 2: So that was nice. But I mean as far as
Speaker 2: the quality of games go, good, Christ, there was some
Speaker 2: terrible football games, like terrible, terrible. Look, there is a
Speaker 2: reason why the lighting is a certain way in clubs
Speaker 2: and in bars, right when people go out of the point. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're trying to hide some of those some of those
Speaker 2: things they don't want other people to see it. It's
Speaker 2: kind of like the NFL scheduling. You know, they're like,
Speaker 2: let's let's talk about one o'clock with five of their
Speaker 2: games to make sure no one checks out how how
Speaker 2: Cleveland's doing. Yeah, you know what that is. That is
Speaker 2: a good point.
Speaker 3: If you are a three, blame the electrician, Okay, And
Speaker 3: that's that's your that's the problem, and that's the bone
Speaker 3: you want to pick with somebody, Go ahead and do that.
Speaker 3: But I listen, man, that was a fun one last night.
Speaker 3: I mean still, you know Raheem Morris, you know, the
Speaker 3: timeout and not calling the timeout on that final driver
Speaker 3: regulation not ideal.
Speaker 2: But Jaden Daniels the stud he is, He's the offensive
Speaker 2: rookie of the year. He's provided. I mean, if you
Speaker 2: look at Washington, I mean three years ago, the change
Speaker 2: in ownership, the change in head coach, the changing quarterback,
Speaker 2: and here we are a team that is now clinched
Speaker 2: a playoff birth and I mean, hell, the players are
Speaker 2: proposing to their girlfriends after the game. I mean it's
Speaker 2: like a story book. You can't make this stuff up.
Speaker 2: And which surprises me the most is everyone wants to
Speaker 2: point to like one or two things. It's the combination
Speaker 2: of all of it, I mean, and that's what Washington
Speaker 2: needed an unfortunately to move past Dan Snyder little Danny
Speaker 2: as LeVar calls them, and get to a point where
Speaker 2: you had it a different culture, a different environment, and
Speaker 2: a head coach who saw that too, and a quarterback
Speaker 2: who's able to bring that to life. And that's where
Speaker 2: we're at. So it's fun to watch the Washington Commandos
Speaker 2: the way they're playing, what it looks like too, because
Speaker 2: I think they're one of those teams they think in
Speaker 2: the playoffs play with house money. Man Like, now that
Speaker 2: they're in, they're playing with house money, and you are
Speaker 2: kind of a scary team when you think about some
Speaker 2: of the weapons they have, Jade Daniel's ability to run,
Speaker 2: the defense can step up, you know from time to time.
Speaker 2: That would be a team that I would be shocked
Speaker 2: if they didn't find a way of winning the wildcard round.
Speaker 3: So Dan Quinn, the head coach of the Commanders, spoke
Speaker 3: about his rookie quarterback afterwards.
Speaker 4: What I told Rahiem after the game, I said, man,
Speaker 4: there's some things that five does and you can't put
Speaker 4: on a card. That's the competitor is And I thought
Speaker 4: he was fully able to demonstrate that and express himself tonight.
Speaker 2: With his legs, with his arm. Yeah, he is a
Speaker 2: dangerous player.
Speaker 4: And it's not by design that you know some of
Speaker 4: these runs that took place, But when the time comes
Speaker 4: to go, I thought there was some smart out of
Speaker 4: bounds runs, But there are some times when he's gonna
Speaker 4: go and it's not always. I cringe sometimes, but I
Speaker 4: also know that I know what the competitor is to.
Speaker 3: It did feel like going into this season that it
Speaker 3: was about for Washington. It was like, hey, you know,
Speaker 3: we're like, our goal here is to find out whether
Speaker 3: or not we got a guy at quarterback, Like that's
Speaker 3: the goal and then everything else, you know, you build upon.
Speaker 3: And yet here they are in the postseason, and I
Speaker 3: just I don't know how many people actually thought that
Speaker 3: could have been a possibility before the year.
Speaker 2: I definitely did not was not on that list. I
Speaker 2: think it. I mean, you look at it, you say
Speaker 2: it could be a possibility. I think what stands out
Speaker 2: to me too is not to compare Kitler Williams the
Speaker 2: Jade Daniels, but if we're looking at the track record
Speaker 2: now of guys who have won a Heisman, guys who
Speaker 2: if you're purely going off of the tape and that's
Speaker 2: all we're doing. When we're trying to figure out who's
Speaker 2: going to be the best quarterback of that draft class,
Speaker 2: you would have just said Jade Daniels and being done
Speaker 2: with it. Like you, it didn't really need any further
Speaker 2: evaluation based on his last season at LSU. And you
Speaker 2: can go back to Joe Burrow back when he was
Speaker 2: at OSU. You can go back through kind of the
Speaker 2: years and look at some of the different draft classes
Speaker 2: and go, yeah, let's not ever think this. This guy
Speaker 2: was the best player in college football on a team
Speaker 2: that you know struggled out around him, but yet he
Speaker 2: lifted everyone up. And that's exactly what he's gonna be
Speaker 2: asked to do once he gets to the NFL level.
Speaker 2: And that's what he's done. So as we like spin
Speaker 2: that forward and we've got teams who are trying to
Speaker 2: evaluate different players in this draft, they're gonna be looking
Speaker 2: at their size, their measurables, the interview, all the other
Speaker 2: stuff outside of the actual playing the game itself. And
Speaker 2: it's why and we'll get into the topic, but like
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders for me is number one based on how
Speaker 2: he played this past season. I know the Bowl game
Speaker 2: wasn't great and that was probably tough to watch for
Speaker 2: a lot of CU fans, But you look at his
Speaker 2: entire body of work the past couple of seasons, look
Speaker 2: at the success of Colorado from where they were a
Speaker 2: few years ago to where they are now. He fits
Speaker 2: that bill. Another guy fits that bill, and I think
Speaker 2: he more is gonna be talked about in regards to
Speaker 2: the size, the measurables, some of the concerns and all
Speaker 2: that is. Cam Warden didn't matter fields at Washington State,
Speaker 2: didn't matter of fields at Miami. Go look at the
Speaker 2: way he improved those teams with his level of play.
Speaker 2: And that's one of those things like it seems like
Speaker 2: sometimes teams franchise overthinking. They kind of overthink that process
Speaker 2: of like what are we trying to invite about what
Speaker 2: really matters. It's the tape. That's all that really matters
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, It's playing football. All
Speaker 2: the other stuff you can continue to keep building on
Speaker 2: and working on. But it just it always surprises me
Speaker 2: when people are surprised, when they they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: the guy who uh yeah, the guy who won the
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy his final year, he's coming, He's led his
Speaker 2: team to the playoffs. Now in his rookie year, It's like, well,
Speaker 2: why is that overly surprising? Like is that? I mean,
Speaker 2: it just it comes off as shocking to me that
Speaker 2: people are surprised by it.
Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks always told me that in scouting it was
Speaker 3: pretty simple that, yeah, you go by the tape first
Speaker 3: and then you start to work in some of those
Speaker 3: other things. But if the tape stands out and you
Speaker 3: see him in actual game situations and scenarios, then that
Speaker 3: that makes your decision a lot easier. Yet for some reason,
Speaker 3: teams don't do that. They and look, Caleb Williams was
Speaker 3: identified is going to be the guy for months and
Speaker 3: months and months and was going to be the player there,
Speaker 3: And it just goes to show you the stability that
Speaker 3: they have in Washington and everything surrounding him. Like if
Speaker 3: he has a bad game, it doesn't feel like it's
Speaker 3: the end of the word. And there's been times Jade
Speaker 3: and Daniels hasn't played all that great and certain situations
Speaker 3: in certain games, but if Caleb Williams has a bad game,
Speaker 3: it is bust Sky is falling. It's terrible. They made
Speaker 3: a mistake.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 3: There's a lot going on around him that just feels
Speaker 3: like chaos, like absolute chaos. Coordinators fired, coaches fired, like
Speaker 3: everything that's happened this year is the wrong way to
Speaker 3: try and develop a quarterback, it feels like, and Jade
Speaker 3: Daniels hasn't had to deal with any of that, Like.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll have the Bears ever developed a quarterback?
Speaker 3: Well, no, I mean they listen, they trade it for Cutler.
Speaker 3: You know there was that, and you know Mitch Trubisky
Speaker 3: got him to the postseason twice, so you know there
Speaker 3: is some optimism there. And there was that one time
Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty five that they want a Super Bowl
Speaker 3: they're still hanging on to So there there was that
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, and I guess it goes back to the
Speaker 2: original point the Bears, I guess more recent runner lack
Speaker 2: of success is one in which I don't know that
Speaker 2: anyone's gonna call for Well, I guess fans have called
Speaker 2: Frank mccaskey's to sell the team, but that's not realistic.
Speaker 2: The problem is is how do you go about, you know,
Speaker 2: trying to build and create the culture that they need
Speaker 2: in order to be ultimately successful and replicate what we're
Speaker 2: saying from Washington. And if ownership's not changing, then you're
Speaker 2: looking at Okay, who are you bringing in that's going
Speaker 2: to be able to overcome or or book the trend
Speaker 2: of ownership's decisions and their impact. It's a tough call
Speaker 2: because depending on who's involved in that decision in the
Speaker 2: first place, they're going to have power over that person,
Speaker 2: whether it's Kevin Warren, Ryan Poles, a combination of the two,
Speaker 2: the mccaskey's. I mean, no matter how you cut it,
Speaker 2: that decision is going to be a tough one for
Speaker 2: any potential candidate who's looking at as a head potential
Speaker 2: head coach, because he's got to answer to someone who
Speaker 2: doesn't have a great track record and and you know,
Speaker 2: a year or two from now, he could, once a
Speaker 2: big game, be on the hot seat. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: essentially what you're looking at. Even as good as KaiB
Speaker 2: Williams is, he can't overcome the disfunction. We've talked about
Speaker 2: that on our show We Can week out with some
Speaker 2: of the various organizations that seem to struggle time and
Speaker 2: time again.
Speaker 3: Speaking of the NFC North, it's all going down to
Speaker 3: the final game that'll be the Sunday Night football feature
Speaker 3: between the Vikings and the Packers next week, and man Minnesota,
Speaker 3: like I don't know or excuse me, the Lions and
Speaker 3: the why I want to say the Packers, My apologies
Speaker 3: definitely not the Packers. They're not involved in that conversation.
Speaker 3: They struggle against the NFC North apparently minus the Bears,
Speaker 3: but the Lions and the Vikings. It all comes down
Speaker 3: to next week for the division, for the number one seed.
Speaker 3: Speaking of things that we didn't think were possible before
Speaker 3: the year, the over underwent total from Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Was what six six and a half.
Speaker 3: It has been an incredible run and they feel like
Speaker 3: they're getting better as well too, like they feel like
Speaker 3: they are striding down the stretch. And I don't think
Speaker 3: it's a crazy thought to think that Minnesota beats Detroit
Speaker 3: next week and all of a sudden, the Vikings and
Speaker 3: Sam darn are a host in a playoff game. It's
Speaker 3: wild to think about that. That's where we're at when
Speaker 3: it comes to the Vikings and the conversation around him.
Speaker 2: And you probably can't understate the job that Kevin O'Connell's
Speaker 2: done as far as coach of the Year, I mean,
Speaker 2: it should probably come down to that game. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure who you want to throw into that conversation. Maybe
Speaker 2: you want to Sandy Reid. I don't know that he
Speaker 2: ever gets enough credit because I think we look at
Speaker 2: him with Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelcey and Chris John's,
Speaker 2: all these pieces they have, and we just say, oh, well,
Speaker 2: they should win a bunch of games. First off, that's
Speaker 2: not an easy division. And second, it's hard to continually
Speaker 2: have and maintain that success that they've had. So maybe
Speaker 2: Andy reach should be more talked about for But it
Speaker 2: feels like between Dan Campbell Kevin O'Connell that should be
Speaker 2: on the line at least for this one. Yeah, granted
Speaker 2: I still game to go for the Detroit Lions, but
Speaker 2: you know, before you get there. But am am I
Speaker 2: wrong in that assessment?
Speaker 3: No, it's over, Like I think it's Kevin O'Connell's, like
Speaker 3: I think he's already I mean, he's a you know,
Speaker 3: ten to one on DraftKings right now, you know, So
Speaker 3: it feels like that's a wrap. Dan Campbell is next up,
Speaker 3: and then you get Andy Reid and Dan Quinn. But Yeah,
Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell feels like like that's all. That's all she
Speaker 3: wrote on that. So and then the discussion will get
Speaker 3: louder after the season about what Minnesota should do with
Speaker 3: Sam Donald, how they play their cards when it comes
Speaker 3: to that. I know. Diana Rassini over the weekend reported
Speaker 3: that there's the potential that they could do a short
Speaker 3: term deal but still keep JJ McCarthy in the fold.
Speaker 3: Pete Prisco and I kind of threw out some scenarios,
Speaker 3: you know, Pete's up for throwing out some wild stuff
Speaker 3: that you know, maybe they maybe they call Las Vegas
Speaker 3: and be like, hey, I know there's a Michigan thing
Speaker 3: going on there. JJ McCarthy interested, you know, signed Sam Donald,
Speaker 3: do a longer term deal and then the Raiders get
Speaker 3: their quarterback, the future decision solved for him. So I
Speaker 3: don't know, there's some some stuff out there for Minnesota
Speaker 3: to think about, but awesome job for Kevin O'Connell on them,
Speaker 3: and then Brian Flores is probably gonna get some head
Speaker 3: coach and consideration as well too with that defense.
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Speaker 3: So it is bowl season in college football, and when
Speaker 3: you talk about great discussions, it all centers around the
Speaker 3: pop Tarts Bowl.
Speaker 2: That's right, you know, frosted the way it delivered. Say
Speaker 2: what you want, man, just like those brown sugar cinnamon,
Speaker 2: like those those ones. Those always hit. That was my
Speaker 2: favorite I was little.
Speaker 3: Yeah, frosted, unfrosted, doesn't matter. It's pop tart unfrosted. Well,
Speaker 3: some people are into the unfrosted stuff. That's like a
Speaker 3: toaster shrudle. That's not a pop start. Look the frosting
Speaker 3: on a pop tart. I'm not sure when that was
Speaker 3: made and how it was made. No offense to pop tart, buddy.
Speaker 2: If you eat a pop tart, you're not overly concerned
Speaker 2: with the health or nutrition facts. You're eating a pop tart.
Speaker 3: By the way, toaster or microwave for a pop tart
Speaker 3: toaster it it's not even close.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's a better I feel like it's
Speaker 3: a better cook in a microwave, to be honest.
Speaker 2: With every time I want to, I want to like you,
Speaker 2: you say something like that, and it's just I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't do it.
Speaker 5: Lee, what's your problem? I don't even know where to start.
Speaker 5: When did you ever put one in a microwave? I mean,
Speaker 5: it's a kid, You just throw it in the microwave.
Speaker 5: It's a better cook. Oh my god, Mark? Why are
Speaker 5: you shaking your head? Toaster? Toaster? Still toast it?
Speaker 2: All right? What are you putting? Say it again? I
Speaker 2: say it once a week. You deserve all the backlash
Speaker 2: you get on Twitter, you really do. It's fartakes like
Speaker 2: this that you deserve the backlash that that you received.
Speaker 2: There are different options out there. It's almost changed everything
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 3: I'll screw you, Mark, And I'm just saying there's the
Speaker 3: options out there, a right.
Speaker 2: If the toaster you up, good for you. Mark. By
Speaker 2: the way, I do like mad for the toasted What
Speaker 2: do you do?
Speaker 3: And I also like how pop tarts don't even give
Speaker 3: you the option of having one. You open a bag,
Speaker 3: you're getting two and if you don't eat the other one,
Speaker 3: it's going stale.
Speaker 2: So like, no, not only you're eating bad, you're eating
Speaker 2: bad twice. I just can't believe you said unfrosted, Like
Speaker 2: that's who are in the right mind would get a
Speaker 2: pop start unfrosted.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, some people are into it, you know,
Speaker 3: some people. Listen, some people are into weird stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't have to tell. Okay, it's it's like getting
Speaker 2: a giant sized Snickers barnollying half of it. You're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm worried about the sugar and the calories in it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well it's the the old Rob Parker trick. You you
Speaker 3: eat healthy but still get dessert. It's like he's like, oh,
Speaker 3: I got a I got a burger with no bun,
Speaker 3: but I ordered a chocolate Sunday afterwards. Dude, just get
Speaker 3: the bun. What's the point, Like, you just did more
Speaker 3: damage to yourself.
Speaker 2: So aren't you making our argument right now? Well?
Speaker 3: No, I'm just telling you that there's an option out
Speaker 3: there for people if they don't like the frosting. The
Speaker 3: frost is not that great.
Speaker 2: I have not seen an unfrosted pop tart in forever,
Speaker 2: mostly because anyone who eats an unfrosted pop tart probably
Speaker 2: got shoved at a locker. We've never seen them. Sense.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, what's with the violence.
Speaker 3: It's just it's a it's a strudle, Like, what's the
Speaker 3: violence here over a breakfast snack that's not good for you?
Speaker 2: And pop tarts are way better than toaster strudle. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's a reason why toaster struddle hasn't sponsored a bowl game?
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, I would agree. Yeah, were they even
Speaker 2: in the in the contention for the bowl game? But
Speaker 2: apparently you know, if they do partake in sponsoring a
Speaker 2: bowl game, they'll be there for the entire game. Not
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: Damn cam Ward? How dare he not return for the
Speaker 3: second half? He had to be ashamed of himself. All right,
Speaker 3: do it for your team?
Speaker 2: Are we believing in the fake outrage that there was
Speaker 2: around cam Ward? Who? And this is the explanation that
Speaker 2: I guess was given because Mario Cristobal, the head coach
Speaker 2: at the University of Miami, didn't really elaborate on what
Speaker 2: that conversation was with cam Woard behind the scene simply
Speaker 2: said that we had an individual conversation with a lot
Speaker 2: of players who were deciding whether they wanted to play
Speaker 2: or sit out the game. And he's gonna leave it
Speaker 2: at that, which was which is a smart way of
Speaker 2: handling it, because every player situation, circumstance is different. Could
Speaker 2: cam Ward have set out of that game altogether? Of course,
Speaker 2: in all seriousness, three weeks ago, the Miami Hurricanes were
Speaker 2: potentially playing for an ACC championship and a spot in
Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff and then come to find out
Speaker 2: a few weeks later, now they're losing in the Pop
Speaker 2: Tarts Bowl. Like that is a dramatic fall from grace
Speaker 2: from where Miami fans thought their team was three four
Speaker 2: weeks ago. So here we are. You've got a player
Speaker 2: who's choosing to at least participate in a portion of
Speaker 2: the game now, even if it's about his own selfish reasons,
Speaker 2: which cam Ward was able to break the NCAA career
Speaker 2: record for touchdown passes, beating out Case Keenum during his
Speaker 2: time there at Houston. So he did in the first
Speaker 2: half through three touchdown passes, got the record, and then
Speaker 2: sat out the second half obviously watched his team lose
Speaker 2: in the final minutes. Now that being said, I don't
Speaker 2: really understand the outrage from this standpoint, Like do people
Speaker 2: really think NFL teams are gonna care He actually put
Speaker 2: himself out there to play in an era where a
Speaker 2: lot of players have not only opted out of games,
Speaker 2: Jamal Chase opted out of an entire season. Do we
Speaker 2: tend to forget that back when he was at LSU?
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that Jeremiah Smith would ever do
Speaker 2: this at Ohio State, but based on his freshman season,
Speaker 2: they're obviously still playing for national championship. Based on what
Speaker 2: I think he'll do next year as a sophomore, he
Speaker 2: would probably have every right to do so if he
Speaker 2: wanted to. I mean, that young man is NFL ready now,
Speaker 2: and so to have to put himself out there and
Speaker 2: harms a way for another year. Yeah, he'll get an
Speaker 2: insurance policy, he'll get paid a lot of nil, but
Speaker 2: it won't be anywhere close to what he's going to
Speaker 2: receive when he's taken somewhere, probably in the top three
Speaker 2: picks once he's draft eligible. What in twenty twenty is
Speaker 2: that it twenty twenty seven If my math is off,
Speaker 2: but I think you're getting My point is like we're
Speaker 2: gonna all of a sudden question the motivation for a
Speaker 2: young man who's trying to protect his ability to move
Speaker 2: on to the next level make money, which at that level,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of players right now who are playing
Speaker 2: not to go to the playoffs, but for incentives for
Speaker 2: themselves for their contract, to make sure they prolong their
Speaker 2: career in the NFL, because they can't necessarily opt out
Speaker 2: at least now without making it look kind of shady.
Speaker 2: I just I don't get the outrage with any of this.
Speaker 3: I think there's do you have a place that you
Speaker 3: go to eat with the family where it's like, if
Speaker 3: you go to that place, you have to eat that
Speaker 3: one specific item because they just like that's what you're
Speaker 3: used to whenever you go there. It's like, Hey, I'm
Speaker 3: going here, I gotta get this, you know, I gotta
Speaker 3: get a like like whatever it is with college football.
Speaker 3: I think people are just so accustomed to bitching that
Speaker 3: they can't help themselves. It's a Pop Tarts bowl, like
Speaker 3: you've got to You've got a weirdo dressed to as
Speaker 3: a breakfast strudle jumping out of a fake toaster. At
Speaker 3: the end of the game, cam Ward goes out there.
Speaker 3: He plays the first half, he breaks a record. That's it.
Speaker 3: It's overdone. There doesn't need to be a conversation afterwards.
Speaker 3: He did what he did. Good for him. He assumed
Speaker 3: the risk. He went out there. He put it on
Speaker 3: the line for the first half. You could get hurt
Speaker 3: it in any half of a game. Like you remember Jalen
Speaker 3: Smith who got hurt playing like people criticized him afterwards, saying, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's nice that he went out and played, but you
Speaker 3: got to think about your draft stock. That guy was
Speaker 3: a top five pick, but in the bag top five
Speaker 3: pickback and I think.
Speaker 2: What twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so when Christian McCaffrey sat out a bowl game,
Speaker 3: he got criticized for it. When Leonard Fournett sat out
Speaker 3: of a bowl game, he got criticized for it.
Speaker 2: All they're being selfish, And so.
Speaker 3: Here cam Ward actually plays the first half, goes out,
Speaker 3: breaks a record, and then sits out the second half. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: You've got to commit to the entire game. What God
Speaker 3: does his work like you can't help it, bitch. People
Speaker 3: just want to complain, And when they talk about college football,
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what the discussion is. We've got other
Speaker 3: conversations coming up. People just want to complain about college
Speaker 3: football because they're just so accustomed to doing it.
Speaker 2: I'm convinced, Yeah, I don't know. Maybe they just wanted
Speaker 2: to see cam Woard. Get a piece of that gigantic
Speaker 2: pop tart there at the end, Yeah, Matt Campbell and
Speaker 2: rock O Beck, or dive it into all that icy
Speaker 2: you hate so much. I mean, if you really want
Speaker 2: to be upset about something, we should be upset about
Speaker 2: the fact that the NCAA is allowing a career record
Speaker 2: for touchdown passes to count for cam Ward. Like if
Speaker 2: you really want me to get on my soapbox and
Speaker 2: take like one of those hot takes. Okay, here it
Speaker 2: is all right. Cam Woard played five years. Okay he
Speaker 2: did so, two of which where some of these stats
Speaker 2: were amounted and Incarnate Word, which is an FCS school.
Speaker 2: So is it really comparable to compare case Keenum, who
Speaker 2: at least played at the FBS level for four years
Speaker 2: and in three games in a year he got a
Speaker 2: medical red shirt when he tore his ACL to accumulate
Speaker 2: those career stats or five years of playing because that
Speaker 2: first year at in Carnal Word was a COVID year,
Speaker 2: they get the additional year of eligibility. So all those
Speaker 2: stats count, all those touchdown passes count towards this record,
Speaker 2: and so not only should there be I don't know,
Speaker 2: I want want to say an asterisk, but we're counting
Speaker 2: a five year career versus a four and three games
Speaker 2: for a medical red shirt, and we're counting it two
Speaker 2: of those years at a lower level where he absolutely dominated,
Speaker 2: then went to Washington State, then went to Miami. So
Speaker 2: kudos to cam Ward for the success that he's had.
Speaker 2: But I would go a step further and say this, like,
Speaker 2: what's starting to bother me a lot about everything that's
Speaker 2: happening in the college football space is we talk about
Speaker 2: the history, we talk about the tradition. You know what,
Speaker 2: we do an awful job of protecting that history and
Speaker 2: that tradition, the legacy of guys like Barry Sanders, for example,
Speaker 2: who rushed for over two thousand yards what was the
Speaker 2: You could look up the exact number during his time
Speaker 2: at Oklahoma State, but he didn't been like eleven and
Speaker 2: Ashton genty look great player at Boise State, obviously a
Speaker 2: Heisman finalist, Doak Walker winner, he's incredible. Let's not compare
Speaker 2: him though, to Barry Sanders, Like as much as we
Speaker 2: want to talk about how well this is a part
Speaker 2: of Ashton Gent's legacy, or this is a part of
Speaker 2: Camboard's legacy, that's true, But what are we doing to
Speaker 2: protect the legacy of the guys who came before them? Like,
Speaker 2: it's just it's not even comparable what Barry Sanders did
Speaker 2: in a eleven games rushing versus what Ashton Genty has done.
Speaker 2: At this point, where are still you know, still counting
Speaker 2: the stats isn't fair. It's not fair to the past
Speaker 2: players who only had four years of eligibility to do it,
Speaker 2: and you now have guys who have stats that are
Speaker 2: counting for five years, six years because of COVID, because
Speaker 2: of red shirt years, medical red shirts that they're counting. Like,
Speaker 2: if you really want to dig into, like what the
Speaker 2: issue should be with this conversation is the fact that
Speaker 2: he was playing in the first half at all to
Speaker 2: go try to break this career touchdown record. Is part
Speaker 2: of the issue at the enda is we like try
Speaker 2: to make up ways that guys can break records when
Speaker 2: they're eligibility. Now that we've got Diego Pava who's eligible
Speaker 2: again next year, the quarterback at Vanderbilt because his JUCO
Speaker 2: years didn't count, So we keep changing and moving the
Speaker 2: goalposts with what these records are. That's the most ridiculous
Speaker 2: part of all of this that no one's talking about.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, it's awesome that Cam Woard is able
Speaker 2: to throw for that many touchdown passes, but in reality,
Speaker 2: like he didn't do it on a per game base
Speaker 2: the way Case Keenum did. He didn't do it consistently
Speaker 2: at that high level or at a higher level like
Speaker 2: Houston during the time case Keenum did. So you can
Speaker 2: give cam Ward the record. I think there'd be an
Speaker 2: asterisk next.
Speaker 3: Next to it two six and twenty eight yards for
Speaker 3: Barry Sanders in nineteen eighty eight, which is in eleven games, right,
Speaker 3: mind yes, mind boggling.
Speaker 2: And yet we're still like comparing players now who are
Speaker 2: playing into you know, Bowl games and conference championships and
Speaker 2: into the playoff now, which has been extended, and yet
Speaker 2: we're counting all of that. It's like, oh, he broke
Speaker 2: the record. It's like, imagine if Barry played fourteen games,
Speaker 2: do the math on that, he would have won over
Speaker 2: three thousand yards.
Speaker 3: I mean, at this point, isn't Cam McCormick like on
Speaker 3: the verge of breaking the all time receiving record.
Speaker 2: I mean he should be. He's been there thirty seven years.
Speaker 2: Maybe not not that record. I don't know what he's
Speaker 2: got calling in Miami, but there's some other.
Speaker 3: Records, you know, if you're gonna if yourena stick around,
Speaker 3: like how many Cam McCormick just turned fifty three, by
Speaker 3: the way, so he's he's still like they got another
Speaker 3: year of eligibility. Cam Rising might come back for another year.
Speaker 3: There's all that you're seven year eight something discount at
Speaker 3: this point. And here's I'm not going to bash the
Speaker 3: young men for coming back and taking their opportunity to play,
Speaker 3: but I think again we're moving the goalpost in regards
Speaker 3: to how we want to talk about what our career
Speaker 3: records and all these stats and all these ways that
Speaker 3: were acknowledging accomplishments for players. It was like, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: of course we'd throw for that many yards if you
Speaker 3: could play five six years and all as years counted.
Speaker 3: So again that's more of my biggest gripe with all this,
Speaker 3: like it's really surprising that as many people, especially in
Speaker 3: this day and age, and again, as I've said before,
Speaker 3: where players have opted out of an entire season, that
Speaker 3: we see players off out of bowl games all the time,
Speaker 3: especially ones that are insignificant, and yet yeah, that's where
Speaker 3: the outrage is because he only played half the game.
Speaker 3: I mean he did spot his team three points at half.
Speaker 3: I mean they were up three points in Iowa State.
Speaker 3: So it was better than if he didn't play at
Speaker 3: all and they started zero zero. He did his job.
Speaker 3: Blame the bullpen, you know, it's not his fault. They
Speaker 3: blew the game for him. By the way, would you
Speaker 3: have done anything different in the new landscape on your
Speaker 3: decision to come out because you had another year of eligibility?
Speaker 2: Correct? No, I came back. So again, back during those
Speaker 2: years you have you know, once that clock starts, unless
Speaker 2: I would have had a medical retro, I guess I
Speaker 2: could have sat out a year in between or something.
Speaker 2: But you know, once it starts, you're playing. And the
Speaker 2: decision would have been to come out after my junior year.
Speaker 2: And for me personally, it just it felt like between
Speaker 2: the class of guys that I was with wanting to graduate.
Speaker 2: Then I talked to some older guys who had given
Speaker 2: me the advice that's just said it's really really hard
Speaker 2: to come back and finish your degree. They're like life
Speaker 2: just kind of hits you at a time where you know,
Speaker 2: Drove bettis I think in a couple of years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 2: finally came back and got his degree, which is awesome
Speaker 2: and it was incredible. It's fun to watch. He's one
Speaker 2: of the most charismatic people you ever meet. But imagine
Speaker 2: that like having kids and his son's now committed to
Speaker 2: come to Notre Dame soon. I mean, imagine sitting in
Speaker 2: class with your son. You know, you're trying to finish
Speaker 2: up years your underground and he's starting right. Like granted,
Speaker 2: eve being different classes, different levels, but it would be
Speaker 2: to an degree. But then you're like, all, who's doing
Speaker 2: the homework? Dad, so doing the homework. But the general
Speaker 2: point is I wanted to come back. I wanted to
Speaker 2: get my degree. I wanted another shot at trying to
Speaker 2: win a national championship. I wanted to be there with
Speaker 2: the guys I came in with. We had a really
Speaker 2: close class of guys. I wanted to be there for
Speaker 2: another year with them and try to obtain all those things.
Speaker 2: So it ended up not working out, but I wouldn't change,
Speaker 2: you know, that final year for anything, Like it was
Speaker 2: a great ride. I love Notre Dame. I love my
Speaker 2: alma mater, and like I said, I just I wish
Speaker 2: if anything there's times where I wonder, back if I
Speaker 2: could have expressed more of an interest of wanting to
Speaker 2: red shirt and that way my true freshman year, I
Speaker 2: would have maybe gone through a lot of the lumps
Speaker 2: that I went through and trying to learn and trying
Speaker 2: to improve as a player, and it would have been
Speaker 2: more mature, more prepared, especially within that offense, because it's
Speaker 2: not like we could enroll early like back then. I
Speaker 2: came up early in the summer for workouts and things,
Speaker 2: but that was the extent, you know, they we weren't
Speaker 2: allowed to enroll like and genuinely like to do now
Speaker 2: and then and practice through spring practice. Hell, some of
Speaker 2: these guys are actually practicing to prepare for the bowl games.
Speaker 2: You know Juju Lewis I believe is his last name,
Speaker 2: the quarterback who's committed to Colorado to come in behind
Speaker 2: Shad Or Sanders as their starter. He's been practicing throughout
Speaker 2: you know, the bull practice before the alimible. So that
Speaker 2: experience would be incredible.
Speaker 3: I think LeVar said, man Man, his son is already
Speaker 3: in state college and if they were to win a
Speaker 3: national title that he would he would be eligible for
Speaker 3: a ring.
Speaker 2: Right, which is crazy. I mean again, different strokes for
Speaker 2: different folks. I'm not sure I would accept something if
Speaker 2: it wasn't there the entire year, But the general point
Speaker 2: is it's very different now, and it wasn't that way
Speaker 2: Notre Dame back then. It is now you have the
Speaker 2: capability of doing that. So that's one of the things
Speaker 2: that I wish I could have done, either enrolled earlier
Speaker 2: at the halfway point of my senior in high school
Speaker 2: and got up to school earlier to then prepare more
Speaker 2: for that spring, or if Red shirted. I mean, those
Speaker 2: are the things I more think about.
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Speaker 3: What's interesting is that the Monday night game later on tonight,
Speaker 3: the Lions and the forty nine Ers, it doesn't really
Speaker 3: mean anything to Detroit because next week's game against Minnesota
Speaker 3: is going to determine the one seed and the division.
Speaker 3: So if the Lions wanted to, I don't know if
Speaker 3: this is in their DNA, they could just sort of
Speaker 3: be like, eh, whatever, well, we'll play it safe here tonight,
Speaker 3: and then you just focus on next week?
Speaker 2: Is that accurate though? Yeah? I was so sure too. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 2: because the only reason I ask is, and again I'm
Speaker 2: just double checking this, the Lions are what thirteen and
Speaker 2: two right now? Yes? I mean so could they afford
Speaker 2: to lose this weekend? Next No, they can't lose next week.
Speaker 2: Next week's so must win regardless. But whatever they do
Speaker 2: to the tiebreaker over the Vikings if they had the
Speaker 2: same record, right, so whatever they do tonight doesn't matter. Yeah, gotcha?
Speaker 3: Which would be like if you think about the Lions,
Speaker 3: what a great story all year, Like they could end
Speaker 3: up being a wild card team going on the road
Speaker 3: the tech after they ran rough shot over the NFC all.
Speaker 2: The bigger question is, if you're Dan Campbell, do you
Speaker 2: sit anyone? If this is a meaningless game, why play anyone? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Why not? Why not use this because you're because you're
Speaker 2: again you're putting it all on the line to try
Speaker 2: to get a bye then that first that wildcard round. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so why would you play in this case? Jared Goff?
Speaker 2: While you risk that, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it personally, and based on the luck
Speaker 3: they've had an injury this year, like I wouldn't, like
Speaker 3: I would just assume the worst. But it's Dan Campbell,
Speaker 3: I mean, like he's a wild man, like he'll he
Speaker 3: does weird stuff, like he'll he'll go for it when
Speaker 3: he maybe shouldn't go for it, you know, like he
Speaker 3: did in the NFC title game at San Francisco last year.
Speaker 3: So I don't I mean that that would be my guess,
Speaker 3: like why even take the chance? But who knows, Maybe
Speaker 3: he looks at it and says, no, We're going to
Speaker 3: play how we play regardless of the situation. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but I'm not taking that chance. I would gear up
Speaker 3: for next week against Minnesota and uh and try and
Speaker 3: get it done there. Which is what's kind of crazy
Speaker 3: about it is that it was just a couple of
Speaker 3: years ago that the Lions were featured in the final
Speaker 3: regular season game of the year, and it was against
Speaker 3: Green Bay and what turned out to be Rogers' last
Speaker 3: game at lambeau Field as a Packer, and that wasn't
Speaker 3: the Lions weren't getting into the playoffs like Seattle had
Speaker 3: already clinched earlier, but they wanted to go out there
Speaker 3: and play hard in that game. And then two years later,
Speaker 3: they're playing final regular season game on Sunday night, and
Speaker 3: they're doing it for a shot to be the one
Speaker 3: seed in the NFC with home field. Like kind of
Speaker 3: a crazy turnaround for that organization and just the matter
Speaker 3: of a couple of years. So we'll see what Dan
Speaker 3: Campbell decides to do. Now, there's a lot of people
Speaker 3: out there that want to swim in the negative side
Speaker 3: of the pool, not us. All Right, We're not going
Speaker 3: to sit here and just pile on and be like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, these teams are bad. So we decided, why
Speaker 3: don't we at least give an award out? Why don't
Speaker 3: we at least attach an award to this so at
Speaker 3: least people can feel good about things. And this is
Speaker 3: like the Antonio Brown Awards that went on this weekend
Speaker 3: where he was handing out you know, Cracker the Year
Speaker 3: awards to various Did you watch that I did. I
Speaker 3: watched to win one so bad.
Speaker 2: I wanted to win so bad that you would be
Speaker 2: on his radar for being the Cracker of the Year.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I felt like it fit the description,
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, at least one portion of it. Now,
Speaker 3: you got to actually do something important to get that award.
Speaker 3: Apparently I did not, but congratulations to everybody who did
Speaker 3: that did win that award over the Over the Weekend
Speaker 3: by Antonio Brown. Uh, just the wild man X is
Speaker 3: a wild place to be man, A lot going on there.
Speaker 3: That said, we decided, you know what, enough with this.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of bad teams in the NFL, but
Speaker 3: there are interesting at least. Well, who's the least least
Speaker 3: interesting of them all? Like, if you've got to be bad,
Speaker 3: how bad are you gonna be? Because we want you
Speaker 3: to also be uninteresting? So, Brady Quinn, do you want
Speaker 3: to go first? Because I have my least interesting team
Speaker 3: in the NFL Award already to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got mine ready to go too. But I
Speaker 2: want to throw out a question to you. If I
Speaker 2: asked you, all right, you have to pick one division
Speaker 2: in each conference? Okay, which is the least entertaining or
Speaker 2: the one that you would like to watch the least
Speaker 2: which both sides?
Speaker 3: Oh yeaheah, yeah, listen, this is no longer just a
Speaker 3: well it's just the AFC.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3: The NFC South has done their part like they have
Speaker 3: done their part to provide mediocre football and a team
Speaker 3: that's most likely a one and done in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Although I you know, I do like Baker Mayfield in
Speaker 3: the Bucks.
Speaker 2: You know, that's a fun team to watch, but yeah,
Speaker 2: fun to watch, but everything out around them is very
Speaker 2: lax entertainment, not great, not great at all. So who's
Speaker 2: your least interesting team in the NFL? My least interesting
Speaker 2: team in the NFL. And maybe this is in part
Speaker 2: due to recent history. And I'm sure this fan base,
Speaker 2: which is one of the best fan bases I'm giving
Speaker 2: you a compliment, will definitely take issue with this. But
Speaker 2: it's the New Orleans Saints. And look, historically, if you
Speaker 2: look at this franchise outside of the really Sean Payton
Speaker 2: Drew Brees era and really even that was kind of
Speaker 2: hit and miss, like they'd go on their runs of
Speaker 2: successful season playoff seasons. Obviously, we're all going to go
Speaker 2: back and remember the loss and the conference championship, and
Speaker 2: I'm right there with you. It got stolen from you.
Speaker 2: The Rams had no business winning that game. That was
Speaker 2: one of the worst calls in the history, maybe the worst,
Speaker 2: maybe the worst outside of the tuck rule play, which
Speaker 2: has changed since then. And I think a lot of
Speaker 2: Raiders fans would agree, but even a lot of the
Speaker 2: haters of the Patriots would agree like that changed a
Speaker 2: lot of history. Still, that play in New Orleans, for
Speaker 2: Drew Brees's legacy, for Sean Payton, that was one of
Speaker 2: the worst no calls in the history of the NFL,
Speaker 2: so much so they even created past interference as a
Speaker 2: challengeable play the following year. But it would be the
Speaker 2: Saints for me. Coming into the season, there was zero buzz,
Speaker 2: zero hype about this team and what this team could be.
Speaker 2: I've actually looked at this roster and always felt like
Speaker 2: it's been a ross that could should probably achieve at
Speaker 2: a higher rate than it has, at least in recent years,
Speaker 2: And this is a year where it's just kind of like, look,
Speaker 2: I know Derek Carr has been out and rather has
Speaker 2: been in, but I just I look at the team
Speaker 2: and it's they're probably one of the least interesting teams
Speaker 2: to watch. And it's not even because they're so bad.
Speaker 2: It's almost like they live in this purgatory of like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they'll be competitive, but then they've kind of gone on
Speaker 2: a streak of losing in the end, and it's just
Speaker 2: kind of is what it is, and it's just it's
Speaker 2: just not good. I mean, they've lost what four of
Speaker 2: the last five since the buy and they're probably gonna
Speaker 2: lose next week to Tampa, who's got to win in
Speaker 2: order to win the end. So it would be the
Speaker 2: Saints for me, A dog would be the sense. They
Speaker 2: were two and zero at one point. You know, I
Speaker 2: don't know if anybody here, Yeah, and then they dropped
Speaker 2: what is it, seventh straight? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Then was it uh Derek Carr that did the Michael
Speaker 3: Jackson after they scored against Dallas and everyone's like, oh man,
Speaker 3: this you know, the Saints, that's the team to watch.
Speaker 3: They're playing like the team from last year.
Speaker 2: And then and by the way, drumming opponents. I mean, one,
Speaker 2: we didn't know how bad Carolina was going to be
Speaker 2: this year. Now we're looking back on the most going,
Speaker 2: yeah that was. I mean, if you compared Carolina and
Speaker 2: the Saints now and granted, look, I mean the Panthers
Speaker 2: beat him, but if you compared the two right now,
Speaker 2: you'd say Carolina is playing probably better football. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I would say.
Speaker 3: And also like the reason because there may be some
Speaker 3: people that go, well, how are the Panthers, not your
Speaker 3: least interesting team. Man, Bryce Shung's playing so much better,
Speaker 3: like he's improved so much, And it does feel like
Speaker 3: there's at least some optimism there, which is surprising because
Speaker 3: I don't know that anybody thought that was possible with
Speaker 3: David Tepper as the owner.
Speaker 2: Like, so yeah, I could.
Speaker 3: I could definitely see New Orleans being your pick, my
Speaker 3: pick for least interesting team in the NFL. And obviously
Speaker 3: we're gonna stick with the South. It's the Tennessee Titans. Okay,
Speaker 3: I don't get it. I just I don't get any
Speaker 3: of it at all. I don't I don't Not only
Speaker 3: do I not get the team. I don't get the uniforms.
Speaker 3: I don't get the color scheme. I don't get I
Speaker 3: swear to christ, I don't get any of it at all,
Speaker 3: and I never have. Like you've got to just just
Speaker 3: take the oilers, jerseys, I do whatever, like go back
Speaker 3: to the like whatever you want to do.
Speaker 2: Just like that.
Speaker 3: That was gold and man up and vanish like a
Speaker 3: fart in the wind for all of whatever you're rolling
Speaker 3: out nowadays. On top of that, the face of the
Speaker 3: franchise is Derrick Henry. You let him walk, and all
Speaker 3: he's done is solidify his Hall of Fame career in Baltimore.
Speaker 3: The other face of the franchise is Mike Rabel. You
Speaker 3: let him walk and moved on from him, and now
Speaker 3: he's the hottest coaching candidate there is. Quarterback feels like
Speaker 3: a mess. Will Levis doesn't seem like he's the answer.
Speaker 3: They've got an opportunity to have the number one pick,
Speaker 3: and so at least there's some hope there. But as
Speaker 3: it stands right now, I don't get it, Like I
Speaker 3: don't understand how if you're a Titans fan, you're watching
Speaker 3: that team going, oh, this is this is a feel
Speaker 3: good moment for us, Like, yeah, we feel great about
Speaker 3: this franchise, this organization. It just feels like they are
Speaker 3: in to your word in purgatory and looking around for answers.
Speaker 3: And on top of that, when you think about where
Speaker 3: they were and the decision to move on from Vrabel,
Speaker 3: this report comes out from Tom Pelasero this weekend that
Speaker 3: says the Titans are expected to retain Brian Callahan.
Speaker 2: Well they should.
Speaker 3: He gave him the highlight of the year, which was
Speaker 3: that speech when he told everybody to stick it when
Speaker 3: they talk about his team not playing hard a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks ago. Other than that, what do they got, like, seriously,
Speaker 3: what do they have?
Speaker 2: And I think they stuck him with a quarterback that
Speaker 2: wasn't his draft pick. He knew taking the job that
Speaker 2: he would go through this year and evaluating him. And
Speaker 2: now they put themselves in a position where if they
Speaker 2: want to go with a quarterback, they can go do that.
Speaker 2: But at least they have a better idea of what
Speaker 2: Will Levis is what he isn't despite whatever Pete Prisco thinks.
Speaker 2: That's part of it. I think the other thing when
Speaker 2: you look at their record so far this year, what's
Speaker 2: interesting is that they're three wins. Two of those wins
Speaker 2: could have come against playoff teams. I mean, the Dolphins
Speaker 2: still have a shot of making in the playoffs, which
Speaker 2: they were able to beat them in what Week four?
Speaker 2: I believe that was the game Will loves Scott Hurt,
Speaker 2: Mason Ruoff came in, yeah, maybe bench at that point
Speaker 2: I can't quite recalling, and then Tua was out at
Speaker 2: that point, so full disclosure, it wasn't like the best
Speaker 2: version of Miami, but still they got to win. And
Speaker 2: then the Texans, they'd be we twelve. So it's it's
Speaker 2: kind of hard when you look at this team too,
Speaker 2: because there's times when you look and say, okay, they
Speaker 2: can be competitive and you see the foundation they're trying
Speaker 2: to build in Tennessee, but they're just not there yet
Speaker 2: and that seems rather obvious. But I'm with you, like
Speaker 2: I'm not sure about the uniforms shot that you took
Speaker 2: at them. I mean, what we want to go back
Speaker 2: to the oilers? Yes, okay, yeah, I mean those were
Speaker 2: pretty dope uniforms back in the day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. I mean, it's not too much to ask.
Speaker 3: It's not like we're asking to reinvent everything. We're just
Speaker 3: telling you, like, hey, you did it better before, like
Speaker 3: just go back to that. It's like these places that
Speaker 3: change their recipes for no reason, like why'd you do it?
Speaker 2: Like like stick with the goods. They very well could
Speaker 2: get their fourth winn of the season because Houston is
Speaker 2: already locked into a playoff spot and winning the division.
Speaker 2: That's who they're going to play in Week eighteen. So
Speaker 2: there's a good chance that I would imagine they're sitting
Speaker 2: out their players waiting to in resting and trying to
Speaker 2: get them healthy for the wild card game. That would
Speaker 2: be my.
Speaker 3: Assumption if you could let me ask you this, would
Speaker 3: you if you could swap out the Houston Texans for
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals as a playoffs one percent would too, Yes.
Speaker 2: Which again we're not there yet in the season. But
Speaker 2: if we really want to be honest with ourselves, and
Speaker 2: this is more of a conversation that's kind of born
Speaker 2: out of the issues with the college football playoff, is
Speaker 2: you would look at reseting once you get in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: like that's only fair when you look at a team
Speaker 2: that's kind of dragging along, and I think we look
Speaker 2: at both NFCAFC South winners it's kind of dragging along.
Speaker 2: We've seen teams in the past have a losing record,
Speaker 2: will win their division so they get the host a
Speaker 2: home playoff game. Like there's elements of that that you're saying, like,
Speaker 2: I get it. Obviously, you've got to figure this out
Speaker 2: in some way, and that's how the NFL is chosen
Speaker 2: to do it, and they put a priority in winning
Speaker 2: your division, But it doesn't really make a ton of
Speaker 2: sense then for the games outside of that, if they
Speaker 2: don't matter quite as much in the grand scheme of things. God,
Speaker 2: I'd love to see Cincinnati in the playoffs. I mean
Speaker 2: they put themselves in position, man, I mean the Colts
Speaker 2: knock themselves out with their loss to the Giants, and
Speaker 2: what it's between Miami and Cincinnati at this point, and
Speaker 2: Denver and Denver, Denver's gotta win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Denver and Kansas City's already gonna arrest their starters,
Speaker 3: so Denver's gonna have an advantage there. So yeah, most likely.
Speaker 3: And bro again, which that that's still a good story and.
Speaker 2: It's a great story.
Speaker 3: Bonix has been fun to watch. And that defense, you know,
Speaker 3: it's an interesting one again, not one like we just
Speaker 3: talked about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not at all.