WEBVTT - Esalen Spirits Guide

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of iHeartRadio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the

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<v Speaker 2>Other Side.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with

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<v Speaker 1>everything on the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,

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<v Speaker 2>or to some the invisible world, life is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be more fun and much more serene.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh heck, yes it can, because, let's be honest, br in,

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<v Speaker 1>earth school is hard. In fact, you taught me.

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<v Speaker 2>That let's crush Earth School together.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hello, my witchy, Oh boo, you have been traveling?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh boo. I don't know. I don't know. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have anything to rhyme with that. But you've been on

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<v Speaker 1>the road again, like William Whalen.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know who that is?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Willie Nelson and Waylon Jennings on the

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<v Speaker 1>road again. Okay, I can't. This episode's now over.

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<v Speaker 2>Well with the last names, I know who they are.

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<v Speaker 2>That I did live in Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's true. You did. How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good. I'm actually in the middle of five weeks

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<v Speaker 2>of travel. Yeah, it's a little Cuckoo right now, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>for real.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a cocoa uff ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is Cuckoo. I will tell you that it's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot for a witch. Yes, it is for home

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<v Speaker 2>a home body witch.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. I I can't lie. I actually think

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<v Speaker 1>for me that COVID was a reminder that I like,

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<v Speaker 1>it tapped into my my half of my introvert side

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm still holding onto.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nobody's recovered from COVID. Let's real. Yeah, and you,

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<v Speaker 2>my alf well, i've been off and about. What are

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<v Speaker 2>you up to?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've been out and about. But we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that next week because I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>you this week. But right now, to talk about me.

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<v Speaker 1>I has say that I was so inspired, slash obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with our episode about aliens that I started watching this

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<v Speaker 1>show on Netflix. I know that's what I do. You'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, I've picked up a book. No no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I just hit play. There's a show on Netflix. It's

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<v Speaker 1>actually a Sci Fi Network original called Resident Alien. And

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<v Speaker 1>but here's the thing. They got some stuff right they did, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they go through a whole I don't remember where. Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it on airplane. But I did watch it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's with blurry eyes. But it was They went

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<v Speaker 1>through kind of like the different types of aliens, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was funny because they hate somebody's like, oh and

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<v Speaker 1>there's gray aliens and some but I think you called

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<v Speaker 1>them like, yeah, they're the last holes or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but they went they are the last holes. It was

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<v Speaker 1>very funny. So somebody who actually knew what they were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody knew, did they talk about the praying mantis? Come on?

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<v Speaker 1>They sort of but they didn't call it that, but

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<v Speaker 1>they But the main character is actually an alien who

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<v Speaker 1>could like slither into a human body suit. Because we

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<v Speaker 1>all know aliens amongst us and how they're so foreign

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<v Speaker 1>to things and anyway, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Just really they don't laugh at our jokes.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's no. I mean, for real, you you might

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<v Speaker 1>it might be worth you downloading it on an iPad

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<v Speaker 1>and watching it's on Netflix. I don't know. I can

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<v Speaker 1>show you how to download shows later if you need

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<v Speaker 1>me to for when you travel, because you know, well,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know I'll walk you through it because because

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<v Speaker 1>for real, like the way they had the main character

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<v Speaker 1>laughing was like like he had no idea how to laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no sense of humor. He was very literal

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<v Speaker 1>for real. Somebody knew something about aliens or was one

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<v Speaker 1>who decided to do was exactly right. But that is

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<v Speaker 1>not why we're here today. But you did ask how

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing, and I was obsessed over our other old,

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<v Speaker 1>older show, like the one we just ran. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was great. Okay, So you were in Estlin. I love

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<v Speaker 1>New Goo to Estlin because we get to do recaps.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know it's a journey a for you to

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<v Speaker 1>get there. I also know something always happens, like always,

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<v Speaker 1>you never not have a story.

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<v Speaker 2>The land of magic and chaos all woven together.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I have questions. First, so did you happen

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<v Speaker 1>to see the natives in the water? Were they in

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<v Speaker 1>the water before? Is that where they were?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? And no? I mean, first of all, they're everywhere, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because I remember I saw them before I went there.

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<v Speaker 2>The first time, I couldn't forgere what was on the

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<v Speaker 2>edge of my meditation. I'm like, what is that? What

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<v Speaker 2>is it? It's like it's like almost like a dark

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<v Speaker 2>cloud on the edge of the edge of my meditation.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, that's that's beyond my normal scope, So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to worry about it. It's out of

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<v Speaker 2>my sphere. I'm not going to worry about it. But

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<v Speaker 2>it kept getting closer and closer before I went to

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<v Speaker 2>Eslin for the first time, and then and then, and

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<v Speaker 2>then when I got there, I realized it was the

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<v Speaker 2>Esselin tribe right that that literally came from the mist,

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<v Speaker 2>close close, close, once I was actually there, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was like they just wanted to check me out, make

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<v Speaker 2>sure I was legit and I was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>worthy and that was going to be this and they

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<v Speaker 2>would test me, they would test me, and they would

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<v Speaker 2>they would mess with me. So now I know before

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<v Speaker 2>I go to Eslin, I have got to get my

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<v Speaker 2>act together and I have to pay homage to them

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<v Speaker 2>and tune into them and share my curriculum with them

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<v Speaker 2>and get it all sanctioned so that they can help

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<v Speaker 2>bring in the students like literally as there was. Actually

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<v Speaker 2>it was really interesting because there was a break in

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<v Speaker 2>my social support the weeks really like two months before

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<v Speaker 2>I went to Eslain, and the class filled like that,

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<v Speaker 2>even though I had no social and I swear it

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<v Speaker 2>was the tribe. I had no one working my social

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<v Speaker 2>not me, not anyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're gonna be the Surgeon General's getting ready

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<v Speaker 1>to put any warning on social media. So it makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense that the tribe was like, you know what, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't need you to be on the social warning stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's that magical, right, because I think we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about them a lot last time after I performed

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<v Speaker 1>my high school boyfriend John his son's wedding, because I

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<v Speaker 1>saw the it was the O Sage tribe, right right,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen multiple I mean, it's it's pretty special.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's pretty special. Yeah, so I started engaged.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure we're all on the same page, and so we

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<v Speaker 2>can we can do the magical.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. So did you meet anybody like you

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<v Speaker 1>always meet? Because all students are fabulous, but sometimes there

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<v Speaker 1>are some that surprised you. Did you have a surprise student?

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<v Speaker 2>This school around, we had so many surprises. We had

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of students join us. Halfway through there was

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<v Speaker 2>one other class going on and up until like Tuesday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>they can switch classes, and so we had two students

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<v Speaker 2>join our class because of what the other students were

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<v Speaker 2>telling them about the class. There's just like I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like because they like stalking me outside the classroom, like,

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<v Speaker 2>are you the teacher who wants to know? Like I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know what there was about, So yeah, that was fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>come on it. They said the class was full. Well

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<v Speaker 2>technically it is, but i'd love to have you in class.

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<v Speaker 2>Just come. We're going about to do our first meditation.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's your thing, let us know, well we'll enroll you.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's not, then you can go back to other class, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, whatever, what about you know? I don't, don't

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<v Speaker 2>you know. It's just sweet. But there was one particular

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<v Speaker 2>student who was very quiet and a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of an elder sort of statesman sort of vibe,

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<v Speaker 2>and he he didn't like, I don't think he's spoke

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<v Speaker 2>in class until maybe the afternoon of the second day,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe even the third day and whenever, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a large space, we make sure people have

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<v Speaker 2>microphones every time they speak so people can hear them easily.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he would say at first, he's like, frenda,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe this has happened, but I wrote down

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<v Speaker 2>a specific phrase and then you said it, and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>this has been happening all week, like when I write

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<v Speaker 2>something down that I'm inspired to write down, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just like, I want to go back to and unpack it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's what I'm feeling, And within thirty seconds it's

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<v Speaker 2>coming out of your mouth, like, how are you doing that?

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<v Speaker 2>How is this even happening? You know? It's so sweet,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was such a great example. So I could

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<v Speaker 2>tell the students like, y'all, I'm up here talking, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not teaching this class by myself. Right, I've got

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<v Speaker 2>I've got my guides, I've got your guys, I've got

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<v Speaker 2>the Esslin tribe. Like it's all happening, right, It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is how what working with your guides actually looks like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So it was really it was really sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>And even by the by the third and fourth day,

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<v Speaker 2>he's still saying, like, I just wrote down giant heart

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<v Speaker 2>and I barely get done writing it, and you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about your beloved who has this giant heart, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. He's just like, I don't I know

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<v Speaker 2>you told me, but I just can't believe it's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>So wait a second. When you talk about giant hearts,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't talk about your co host elf.

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck, I do use.

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<v Speaker 1>You used to use uh what was that? Shut up? Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>shut the fuck up your little fuckers or what I

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<v Speaker 1>used to say you fuckers? Yeah, you fuckers. I think

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of my claim to fame.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, that's for class and the wild Child car.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that guy and I love that he because

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<v Speaker 1>here the thing that I that what I love the

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<v Speaker 1>most about it is of course, the event that happened

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<v Speaker 1>is like just makes my heart go pity pat. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But the part that's so cool is that he said

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<v Speaker 1>it out loud, and when you actually say something out

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<v Speaker 1>loud in that environment, you're gonna learn so much more.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and everyone is inspired by what he said, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they start thinking about it. I can do that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought about that, and like they get everyone

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<v Speaker 2>gets their experience of firms in some way.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that so much. That's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>So why don't we take a quickie break because you

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<v Speaker 1>have more stories and I'm so excited to listen to them,

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<v Speaker 1>So everybody will be back in just a quickie and

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<v Speaker 1>hold on all right, y'all, we are back with the

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<v Speaker 1>Wichy Poo and her stories from Essalyn And Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>just have to say, Yeah, I got to confess I

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<v Speaker 1>know these stories, so I'm going to do my best

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<v Speaker 1>to prompt my WITCHI poo because they're amazing. And this

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<v Speaker 1>story and it's actually when you arrived, right, like, so

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<v Speaker 1>what do you tell us about? So you arrived on Sunday?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which you know it's traveling to Eslin is it's

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of a test itself. So traveling from Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm up at five and catch early morning

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<v Speaker 2>flight and then get there around six or seven by

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<v Speaker 2>this Pacific time. Right, So that's and then I start

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<v Speaker 2>unpacking and this and that, and then I realized at

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<v Speaker 2>some point this room is going to be tough for

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<v Speaker 2>me to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, wait it takes you. That's I just did a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of math. Is that fifteen hours?

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a fifteen hour community Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>When I lived in La I could get to Hong

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<v Speaker 1>Kong and that amount of time. Okay, continue, you are sack,

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<v Speaker 1>You're tired as hell.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, sorry, yeah, yeah, fairly fairly vertical, right, And I

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<v Speaker 2>have to teach at seven thirty the next morning, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm like, oh, and anyhow I ended up justin

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<v Speaker 2>who's one of my assistants was not with me, but

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<v Speaker 2>managed to arrange for me to change rooms because the

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<v Speaker 2>room I had just wasn't going to work for me,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I changed rooms. So I'm in on Estland

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<v Speaker 2>on the campus. It's called the Murphy House, which is

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<v Speaker 2>where they recently have put staff, so the staff can

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<v Speaker 2>stay together and they can talk to each other, which

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<v Speaker 2>is nice because we never got to do that before.

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<v Speaker 2>We were sort of in these separate kind of houses,

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<v Speaker 2>individual houses, and so the staff all stays in the

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<v Speaker 2>Murphy family House because it was the grounds, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>were they own the land. And so.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're like a cruise ship, you know, like when

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<v Speaker 1>you work on a crusehip. State of bon.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not know that you do, but no, it

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<v Speaker 2>is not like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just visual. I just want a visual for everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lovely home. And so anyhow, I ended up

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<v Speaker 2>going upstairs to what would be considered the main bedroom

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<v Speaker 2>of the family house, and that's where they put me

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday night. And so now it's about midnight a

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<v Speaker 2>Pacific time. So I've been up a while and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>dead duck tired, but I'm settled in I'm ready for bed,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I'm getting ready to teach at some

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<v Speaker 2>thirty in the morning to do a staff session, not

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<v Speaker 2>for the class, but for a staff session. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I close my eyes and I see. All I want

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<v Speaker 2>to do is see nothing, right because I'm so dead,

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<v Speaker 2>deck tired, And I see these beautiful faces radiating love,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do not recognize them. They are not part

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<v Speaker 2>of my inner tribe, my outer circle. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>these faces at all, but they are so welcoming. I

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<v Speaker 2>can only imagine that they are part of the Murphy

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<v Speaker 2>family somehow, in some way. So I acknowledge to them.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, thank you. I can't talk to you now.

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<v Speaker 2>I will check in with you later. Got to sleep,

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<v Speaker 2>got to sleep, like thank you, right to shut it down,

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<v Speaker 2>so like, you know, set my boundaries and fall asleep.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, anyway, wait, I got a question.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we look up? Would you recognize the faces if

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<v Speaker 1>we saw Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely would recognize the face. Okay, maybe they'll look

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<v Speaker 2>them up. Yeah, And you know I would, I say that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would have to look at them because it

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<v Speaker 2>was more of the feeling like it was just such

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<v Speaker 2>a radiance. It was such a radiance, I can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it was really sweet. And of course the

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<v Speaker 2>next morning I get up and I'm teaching holding this

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<v Speaker 2>really sweet staff session. So sweet people are people are

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<v Speaker 2>so kind, like just you know, curious and kind, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like that's why, that's why it's worth the hassle

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<v Speaker 2>to get to Estlam because the people are extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 1>Well wait, I want to roll back a second, because

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<v Speaker 1>I never like to miss a good lesson. I've learned

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<v Speaker 1>so many that I want to make sure I can

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<v Speaker 1>see them now that and I think it's I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's really important because so many of our listeners have

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<v Speaker 1>shared with us how you know, they are at different

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<v Speaker 1>parts of their journey, of their spiritual journey. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know for a fact that we have some of our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners that have a hard time shutting things down. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's very natural to you to have the wisdom to

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<v Speaker 1>know like, oh, this is what I need to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, thank you so much, you're very lovely, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to get some sleep because otherwise, well, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's that balancing right of the spiritual realm and what

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<v Speaker 1>we have to do on the earth realm right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, and really such a good point my life.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was a strong lesson that ran throughout class.

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<v Speaker 2>Interestingly enough, right because the guy's literally the spirits are

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<v Speaker 2>literally taking care of me, like, hey, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure you know. This lesson really of close and

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<v Speaker 2>personal to be able to hold those boundaries because I

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<v Speaker 2>was physically not in a strong place to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to engage with, you know, spirits I'm not familiar with.

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<v Speaker 2>On the other side, now my guides I can work with.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it doesn't matter how tired I am, because

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<v Speaker 2>I know the frequency. I know we have an agreement,

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<v Speaker 2>we know how we work together, and you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no there's no threat there, right, But the spirits I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, can come in, you know, in all kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of shapes and forms and change like that, even radiate

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<v Speaker 2>love and then not be so much. But this this

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<v Speaker 2>family was clearly clearly very attached to this space.

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<v Speaker 1>But isn't it funny though, that that was a theme

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<v Speaker 1>that went through the It was interesting. I think it's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really interesting because it was something that just

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<v Speaker 2>kept popping up. It just kept popping up, and we

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<v Speaker 2>hit really hard on the last day and ended up

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<v Speaker 2>to be this huge conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>It was did you happen to share with them that

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<v Speaker 1>this event that happened to you that no, you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know the next day okay, well hopefully it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I I also like to leave space for their question,

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<v Speaker 2>right because they're you know, because that's that's the thing,

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<v Speaker 2>come to share. So anyhow, so yeah, so the next

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<v Speaker 2>day is Monday, and I'm out and after I finished

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning session, I'm out and about and I

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<v Speaker 2>should actually tell it just a little break back up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should actually take a quick break. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>can we do that? We're going to take a quick

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<v Speaker 1>break and because listen, the whole thing is, we could

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<v Speaker 1>actually you and I talked about this for hours and

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<v Speaker 1>not even take a breath, much less a break. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to take a quick break so everybody can

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<v Speaker 1>follow along with us. So we'll be right back, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>So hold on, all right, y'all, We are back. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to I just want to say this

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<v Speaker 1>up front, because you actually told me about this prior

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<v Speaker 1>to leaving, that you actually had you had an astrology

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<v Speaker 1>reading right before you left, and so do you mind

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<v Speaker 1>sharing with everybody because this is all related? This is

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<v Speaker 1>just crazy shit. And by the way, people who are

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<v Speaker 1>readers also get readings. I just want to say that

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<v Speaker 1>out loud. Oh gosh yah, not for me, but from professionals,

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<v Speaker 1>so not so I want, so, anyway, do you mind

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<v Speaker 1>do you mind sharing that I'm kind of putting you

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<v Speaker 1>on the spot about what it was?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, of course, of course. So so this reader told

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<v Speaker 2>me a lot of a lot of things. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a very great session. And she said, you know this

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<v Speaker 2>and this and this opening up blah blah blah blah. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>there's one thing, a thing I want you to watch

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<v Speaker 2>out for this one day. This one day is like

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<v Speaker 2>just be really careful. And I'm like okay, okay, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking notes okay, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And then

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<v Speaker 2>like ten minutes later, I'm like, wait a minute, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>atin that day. Shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never had anybody tell me to look for a

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<v Speaker 1>certain day. By the way, so that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's that's astrology, right, that astrology will do that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like and and and I said, so like, like

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<v Speaker 2>how bad is this day? Like do I have to

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<v Speaker 2>cancel teaching? Like how bad is this? Because right the

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<v Speaker 2>roads were collapsing around Esselon and there was down to

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<v Speaker 2>one lane, and like, I'm like, how bad is this?

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<v Speaker 2>Like a that's one going to fall in the ocean on.

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<v Speaker 1>That by the way, all fair, all fair, are fair?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's it's so real. Plus it's June and

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<v Speaker 2>that's when you get the most train and like roads

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<v Speaker 2>can wash out and I can't you know, and help,

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah. So I'm like, how bad? How bad is this?

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<v Speaker 2>She goes, well, you know, a couple of for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple days after, like just just really pay attention to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it looks like you might fall or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, fall, that's not really something I do. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was in my head. I'm thinking, I don't not

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<v Speaker 2>really someone who like trips and falls, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>get pushed around sometimes, but you know a lot. But

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<v Speaker 2>other than that, Yeah, that's actually I do do. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that you don't fall, yeah, rarely, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is after I bang my head.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're a head banker, y'all didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, that's right. So so anyhow, so it's my day

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<v Speaker 2>afternoon and you know, talking, and I turn and the

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<v Speaker 2>ground goes out from underneath me, literally grows underneath me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had my phone in my hand. I just

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<v Speaker 2>threw it to catch myself, and I caught myself like

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<v Speaker 2>hands down, clawing the dirt as my feet are dangling

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<v Speaker 2>behind me. The gravel is literally falling down the cliff.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what the house is going on? And

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<v Speaker 2>I just like stop and froze. And I was so

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<v Speaker 2>glad I caught myself, and I was lucky that my

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<v Speaker 2>phone was still, you know, on the side of the

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<v Speaker 2>cliff with me. And I was just like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if that was it okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And not for nothing. The language you just used you

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<v Speaker 1>have used for years that I've known you, and you've

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<v Speaker 1>used them, and to row when you talk about when

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<v Speaker 1>you what card is it? But you know where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going When you say either the ground will fall beneath you,

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<v Speaker 1>when you will learn to fly the food, it's the fool, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is the right. And so it's interesting that

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<v Speaker 1>the language you use was that of your fool in

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<v Speaker 1>some ways maybe I mean, maybe you were down in

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<v Speaker 1>a different past. But it's interesting that you telling the

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<v Speaker 1>story you used actually your language for that. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just had to stop, sorry about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. It was not aware of that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyhow, so that was that was just.

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<v Speaker 1>And you wore genes, which you never wear, and thank

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<v Speaker 1>god you did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was time of my health. I really it's

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<v Speaker 2>not my garment of choice, but I did have them on,

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<v Speaker 2>and thank god because they were.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen you. I've never seen you were genes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've do you for a very long time, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they were totally.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we used to wear those going out, like

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<v Speaker 1>to all the gay bars in Dallas because we did

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<v Speaker 1>fall a lot, and we went falling for very different reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>And we knew were wise enough to wear gene because

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<v Speaker 1>we would muck up our legs. Yeah right, like never

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<v Speaker 1>wear paint and like never wear like tights or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that because you're just gonna screw it all up.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, we wore jeans. That's why dinnim exists. So

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<v Speaker 1>at least you had the wisdom to wear denim. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think the cool part though, of your store, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's interesting that the astrologer was so bright. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you told her. Okay, well you need to tell her.

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<v Speaker 1>She just mouthed she didn't, And I have to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you it's so important to tell those magical creatures in

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<v Speaker 1>our life that when they get something right, to let

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<v Speaker 1>them know so they have a confirmation. Whatever, you can

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<v Speaker 1>send her a text, but I'll shame you more later.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the end of the day is fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>So from there, so then I go ahead and teach

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<v Speaker 2>the afternoon session in the evening and it's just so

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<v Speaker 2>much fun and everyone's just landed and it's really sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>Head back to my room, make some adjustments for tomorrow's class,

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<v Speaker 2>and because we're all in the Murphy House and we

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<v Speaker 2>will be really respectful of each other. I haven't air pods.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to a podcast, and you know how sometimes a

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<v Speaker 2>podcast ends and it rolls into the next episode, and

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it jumps podcasts and all of a sudden, you're

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<v Speaker 2>listening to a podcast you haven't heard of in a

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<v Speaker 2>really long time. Well, it's that kind of situation that

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<v Speaker 2>I was really whatever I was doing, I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't feel like going and changing the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I just let it play while I was wrapping up

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get to bed, and the podcast was about

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<v Speaker 2>this guy who used to work for the government. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was the FBI, and then he and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they had a long intro and then they had this

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<v Speaker 2>then he gets hired to fund and got funding to

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<v Speaker 2>develop research on remote viewing. And now I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Got an episode of him. Actually I'm not mistaken.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think there were a couple of ones, because

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<v Speaker 2>this is one week had different Oh yeah, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a little different than than the one that they

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<v Speaker 2>made the movie about, but it was like the same

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<v Speaker 2>topic but a different sort of slice of government. And

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<v Speaker 2>so anyhow, I was like, oh, well, this is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of interesting. I'm a little more interested now. And so

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<v Speaker 2>they're talking and the interviewer asked this man who I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know his name is. He says, well, how

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<v Speaker 2>did you get to how did you get to have

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<v Speaker 2>that funding? And he says, well, Michael Murphy from Esslyn.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I stand up straight, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on? What's happening at the fun of all

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<v Speaker 2>the podcasts in the whole world that I could.

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<v Speaker 1>Be learn there are millions of them now.

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<v Speaker 2>Billions, And I'm on I'm in the Michael Murphy room bedroom,

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<v Speaker 2>like the main bedroom of Murphy House, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>start giggling because you cannot make this up. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you to the Murphy family. I get it. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for bringing back back around so I could

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<v Speaker 2>close the loop on this, and thank you for helping

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<v Speaker 2>me with class like it was. It was so sweet. God,

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing. The messages are you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>of yours that you got there are so incredible, and

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<v Speaker 1>even messages you got before that actually happened. I mean, again,

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<v Speaker 1>you're prepared by at least we're in jeans because there's

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<v Speaker 1>some things we can't avoid, Let's be honest. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're careful enough. But I think that the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast one is fascinating because I'm sure I brought this up.

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<v Speaker 1>Is you know, when when Mona had jumped, she was

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<v Speaker 1>in my car, she was in my iPod at the

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<v Speaker 1>time or whatever the hell it was her iPhone. She

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<v Speaker 1>was in my computer and she kept going in and

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<v Speaker 1>playing the Psychedelic Furs song Ghost in You. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>so when I hear your story, it reminds me and

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<v Speaker 1>I have like this warmth about Mona just messing with

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<v Speaker 1>all my electronics and it's like and it's just such

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<v Speaker 1>a I'd love that and so I encourage people pay attention.

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<v Speaker 2>Pay attention, you know. And if I had been been

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<v Speaker 2>all antsy, like oh, I don't feel like listening to

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast now, I would have missed the blessing exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>You would have absolutely missed the blass. Yeah yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>so I love that. I just I love it. I

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<v Speaker 1>love your trips to Esslyn. I love your stories from Essla.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry you fell.

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<v Speaker 2>I completely forgot about it, literally until I got home,

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<v Speaker 2>because the class was so.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich and you but you packed jeans, which was weird,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was just like, I mean, when your guides

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of lead you over to the closet and

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<v Speaker 1>grab pair of jeans and throw them in there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's I think that's that's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know these I love. I love when we

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<v Speaker 1>have story time because I think storytime is when every

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<v Speaker 1>gives everybody a chance to kind of reflect on their

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<v Speaker 1>own lives and reflect on these types of moments, because

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:44.159
<v Speaker 1>the moments that you experience, let's be honest, they're no

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<v Speaker 1>different in terms of the other types of moments everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else can to the blessings, right, those moments that like

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, can bring a smile or a look

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<v Speaker 1>of terror I guess on your face, or just the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, acknowledgment of you know, the divine at work.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, whether it was the young man that you

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<v Speaker 1>talked about in the beginning where he would write something

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<v Speaker 1>down and you would say those words within minutes of

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<v Speaker 1>when he wrote them down. It's like, oh, no, we're

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<v Speaker 1>all in this together, so we're all connected. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just love this so incredibly much, and thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for sharing your stories. One of these days I'll eventually.

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<v Speaker 2>Go, I know, and you will love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh are you kidding? I'd probably like go hide

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere so nobody would like find me and to kick

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<v Speaker 1>me out and tell me to go home.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna tell that they're gonna party. They're gonna say, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I seriously want to go, and I will. But I

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<v Speaker 1>loved it. So thank you for sharing yourself and thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for teaching. You know, it's like if we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the witchy Poos of the world, a lot of

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:53.400
<v Speaker 1>us would still be spinning in Sherman Oaks then opening

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<v Speaker 1>a portal. So thank you for still no thank you

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm and I mean that with all with every

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<v Speaker 1>cell in my body that that's so important, So I

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<v Speaker 1>will speak for all of us listeners, Clash your host

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<v Speaker 1>that it is crucial. So thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, it's my joy and honor. So thanks for listening everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>and remember our school is.

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