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Speaker 1: Hey, Kiki, why were you thinking about bullies a TikTok? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw a TikTok where a woman was talking

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Speaker 2: it reminded me like the kind of crazy advice my

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Speaker 3: It was not helpful at all.

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Speaker 2: So it's like your kid comes home and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm being bullied and my parents just like go kick

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Speaker 2: And so it just made me think of like did

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Speaker 2: everyone get that kind of like crazy advice from their

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Speaker 2: parents to deal with bullies? And then also, how did

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Speaker 2: you overcome your first bully?

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Speaker 3: Because like me and my first bully were cool?

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Speaker 1: Now shee, because I've got I got a few questions

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Speaker 1: eight five, five three five, uh context the same number. One,

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Speaker 1: Do you know what became of your bully or bullies?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Two? Did any of them actually surpass you? Because like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that anyone who bullied me actually did

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Speaker 1: any better than I did in life? Nope. In fact,

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Speaker 1: the things I got bullied for were being a kid

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Speaker 1: and being obsessed with radio. And here we are doing

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Speaker 1: this and I Actually, it's funny you bring this up

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Speaker 1: because last week there were I don't know if you.

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Speaker 1: If you my school was so small. I mean I

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Speaker 1: was like what happened to him? And he was like

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Speaker 1: and the girl was like, well, he's doing really well

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Speaker 1: on the radio. And this guy was like and I

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Speaker 1: always knew that he would, but he never said that

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Speaker 1: to me back then. And the kids that were bullying me,

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Speaker 1: like he was the middleman between the kids who were saying,

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Speaker 1: you'll never do anything with that. And it was just

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Speaker 1: funny to me that you bring this up and that

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Speaker 1: that was the comment last week, because I wonder then

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Speaker 1: what happened to them? Did any of them actually do

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Speaker 1: anything good? Or they bigger losers than you ever could

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Speaker 3: Yep, everybody who bullied me are they're still there? Losers?

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Speaker 1: I like, what happened to your bullies?

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Speaker 2: We were cool, but like they're we're cool.

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Speaker 1: My fast food when I go to the.

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Speaker 2: Drive through no shame like and it wasn't. It was

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Speaker 2: in like great like elementary school. So they were just

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Speaker 2: you know, bullies at that point. But I what the

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Speaker 2: best way in any kid that is being bullied right

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Speaker 2: now that can hear this, The best way to overcome

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Speaker 2: a bully is to stand up to them. They're really

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Speaker 2: not who they act like to like who they act

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Speaker 2: like they are. Because all my bullies, like at the

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Speaker 2: moment I stood up to them, it was not that

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Speaker 2: they were not keeping that same energy and from that

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Speaker 2: point on they are not doing the best in life.

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Speaker 2: And I do wish them whatever they deserve, but it

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Speaker 2: was like bullies are. I just want kids to know,

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Speaker 2: like you can overcome a bully, just stand up to them.

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Speaker 1: That's funny though, because my parents used to give me

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Speaker 1: the advice to like and this is what your parents

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Speaker 1: used to be like ignore them or tell them that,

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Speaker 1: they're just be like okay, you know, like because you're

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Speaker 1: not feeding them. By standing up to them those kind

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Speaker 1: then they get like more ammunition. And of course my

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Speaker 1: parents used to say like, well, you'll prevail someday, and

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Speaker 1: they happen to be right. But that's bs advice because

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Speaker 1: let's face it, if every parent tells every kid they're

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Speaker 1: gonna prevail, not everyone gets to prevail. Sorry, it sucks,

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Speaker 1: but it's life. So but that's I remember, that's what

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Speaker 1: my parents used to say, like, well, someday, you know,

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Speaker 1: someday that guy will be nothing and you'll be something.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what parents are supposed to say. What are

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Speaker 1: they supposed to say, like, no, there's a real good

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Speaker 1: chance he's right and you're a loser. No, no one's

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Speaker 1: gonna say that. But I don't know if I surpassed.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Like there was one kid he was

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Speaker 1: Ye and I wonder if you still are, And I

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Speaker 1: or if the person who bullied you. Kiki saw you

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Speaker 1: and realize that you did exactly what you said you

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Speaker 1: were going to do. Oh, you did exactly the thing

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Speaker 1: that you were bullied because you couldn't get it done.

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Speaker 1: You were going to be a well known personality, you

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Speaker 1: were going to be a fixed ure, you were gonna

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Speaker 1: and you did it. So now what say something to me?

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Speaker 3: Oh, no, they they're gonna congratulate you when they see you.

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Speaker 1: Tickets good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna do that.

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Speaker 2: But any of you guys ever been a bully Because

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Speaker 2: I went through.

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Speaker 4: A faith bull I I was a jerk in grades,

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't know, like in middle school for sure,

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Speaker 1: I was a jerk. Where do you think? Where did

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Speaker 1: And that was just the way you know I was.

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Speaker 4: It was like I get, I don't know, it was

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Speaker 4: picked on you it was you know, that's how it

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Speaker 4: is like you. I mean, that's it really is how

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Speaker 4: it is in school, Like the the I don't know,

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Speaker 4: like we just picked on certain kids, like just talk

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Speaker 1: We didn't like beat them up or anything.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't like beating kids up, but like we were

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Speaker 4: just we would poke fun on kids on the bus,

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Speaker 1: I will say this, and this is probably gonna be

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Speaker 1: it's for almost everybody in the room. It happened at

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Speaker 1: I do think that we have to at some point

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Speaker 5: Hi, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: How are you good morning? So you had a middle

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Speaker 5: She tortured me for years to the point, like my

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Speaker 5: So one day she came up to my house and

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Speaker 1: A whole nut. Well, now, did you did you handle it? Like?

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Speaker 5: She actually went home and had her mom call the cops,

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Speaker 1: See well, well, Ashley, Well I'm glad and everything worked

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm about to get married in a month,

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Speaker 5: and I'm a teacher and I'm living my best life really, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Love you guys, love you. I love you too. To

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Speaker 1: handle him, I think my parents' rule was always just

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Speaker 1: but it was it was always if they hit you first,

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Speaker 1: I hit him and it's lucky.

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Speaker 4: He literally put on the Roget game song, can't punching

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 6: No, I punched that little preschooler so it didn't hit

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Speaker 1: Somebody asked, Rufio, did you ever go back and apologize

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Speaker 1: to anyone that you believed? No? I did not like

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Speaker 1: should let's do it on air? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know these kids anymore, like I'm not friends

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Go ahead. Oh, I was just gonna say.

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Speaker 6: You said that we didn't have online bullying, but for

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't go away, unfortunately, Like grown ups still

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Speaker 3: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 2: Came home, it was like, somebody's bullying me, Like I

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Speaker 1: Yeah at that point, same.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like, you know, so we got to

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Speaker 7: I know.

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Speaker 2: But it's just like kids stand up to that bully

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Speaker 2: and bullies if you if you're bullying somebody, like your

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Speaker 1: I'll look at this. This is how it works. Paulina,

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Speaker 1: Hi? Hi? How are you guys? Or is it Paulina

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Speaker 1: So what happened to your bully?

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Speaker 8: Well, I had a group of kids bullying me in

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Speaker 8: They said I was ugly and because I was like

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Speaker 3: Same and have like a bunch of kids.

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Speaker 8: And I'm just like, oh, look at that. And then

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Pauline, good for you. Have a good day

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Speaker 1: here as well. Yeah, Victor, how you doing, Victor? Good morning?

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Speaker 1: What happened to your bully?

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Speaker 9: So with my bully, he used to pick on me

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Speaker 9: Up being just completely awkward, having no friends, you know,

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Speaker 1: Good for you, man. Okay, here's my advice about being

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Speaker 1: Wait to bully until after puberty. Okay, Because here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I had a major come up between seventh and eighth grade.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna bully, at least wait till everyone has

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Speaker 7: Try to I mean, the thing is, if I'm being honest,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. People go through an awkward stage. They

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Speaker 1: and now you're the ugly one. You gotta wait. Thank you. Victor,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no one just wanted to say I love you guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm number five, just so you know. Okay, good we

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Speaker 1: got number five right there. Thank you, Victor, have a

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Speaker 1: good day. Don't bully anyone. I don't really mean that.

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Speaker 1: But if you're going to wait till they go through puberty,