Speaker 1: Hellotle, my gorgeous humans. It's your friend, Lala Kent. What
Speaker 1: is good Jessica Walter?
Speaker 2: Hi, Lala Kent.
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 2: How are you feeling?
Speaker 1: I'm feeling happy today.
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 2: How is your weekend?
Speaker 1: My weekend was awesome. Okay. I went to my friend
Speaker 1: Janet's engagement party. That was fabulous. I took Ocean with me.
Speaker 1: I'm that girl who was like, you have a baby
Speaker 1: in a bar? You have a baby?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 2: What is that from?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I took her and she loved it. She loved every minute,
Speaker 1: she loved the music. She was a vibe. She was
Speaker 1: the most popular one there besides the bride to be Okay,
Speaker 1: and then thank you mom my. Mom brought in a
Speaker 1: sweatshirt for me, closed the motherfucking door out. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: I love you. And then last night I had a
Speaker 1: really fun time. I went and had girl time. Okay,
Speaker 1: I want to talk to everyone about what my girl
Speaker 1: time consisted of. But before we get super into that,
Speaker 1: I want to remind everybody that I'm going on tour.
Speaker 1: You're welcome. I'm going on tour. We're gonna start in Irvine, California.
Speaker 1: Then we are hitting Fort Lauderdale, Clearwater, Orlando, Atlanta, Nashville,
Speaker 1: New Orleans, Houston, Austin, and Dallas. I'm so excited. The
Speaker 1: tour is going to be amazing. It's the Give Them
Speaker 1: La La brand new tour, very interactive. We just had
Speaker 1: a meeting with the tour management and talked about everything
Speaker 1: that this tour will consist of, and I'm so excited
Speaker 1: for the segments.
Speaker 4: Hey guys, Lalla is bringing it on this tour. If
Speaker 4: you don't have your tickets, buy them now. Because I
Speaker 4: was like I was sitting in on the meeting freaking
Speaker 4: out of.
Speaker 1: Everything she was saying she was gonna do.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We it was like I had it in my head
Speaker 1: and then we put it down on paper and we
Speaker 1: were like sitting there having these really good salads, and
Speaker 1: I was just like, Bam, this is what we're doing
Speaker 1: this segment. And I literally had chills. Everyone else had chills.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm a fucking genius and everyone coming
Speaker 1: to the show is going to have such a fun
Speaker 1: time and I'm going to have such a fun time
Speaker 1: with everybody. Yes, So if you do not have your
Speaker 1: tickets yet, go to give them live dot com and
Speaker 1: if you purchase tickets that were for the old tour.
Speaker 1: Those tickets are still valid and I can't wait to
Speaker 1: see all of you because I love you so much.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about my girl time last night. Let's hear it.
Speaker 1: It was all about sex, love it all about it. Okay,
Speaker 1: So there were five of us. Katie is obviously married,
Speaker 1: so and then the other girl just got into a relationship.
Speaker 1: So the three of us were newly single, like newly single,
Speaker 1: and you know, it gets weird. It gets weird when
Speaker 1: you've been in a relationship for a long time and
Speaker 1: that's the sexual partner that you know, unless you're a
Speaker 1: fuck wad and you creep around, which I do not
Speaker 1: unless you haven't asked. Like Ariannas, I'm tapping that ship.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. But I'm on a roll today. We
Speaker 1: have a listed Gorgon on the podcast today. I have.
Speaker 1: I'm like on a roll you are. So I'm sitting
Speaker 1: here talking to these fine ladies about being single and
Speaker 1: like what sex is going to be like, and we're
Speaker 1: very open about it all. You know. It's like I
Speaker 1: felt bad for the waiter, not so bad for him
Speaker 1: there at a restaurant and the first thing that comes
Speaker 1: up is Oh my god, you guys, I have not
Speaker 1: had sober sex with a new partner probably since I
Speaker 1: was seven. I was sober when I lost my virginity,
Speaker 1: but after that, yeah, I'm a drinker girl, Like I'm
Speaker 1: a bag of fun. Okay, but I've been sober for
Speaker 1: over three years and I had the same partner for
Speaker 1: almost six of those.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then before that, you're saying most of your
Speaker 4: sex was when you were drunk or a couple drinks
Speaker 4: in like what is no.
Speaker 1: Like meet the guy, look at him, the eye contact. Yeah,
Speaker 1: few drinks, and it is on. It is on what
Speaker 1: you want to do? Tell me? Yeah, throw me into
Speaker 1: a glass window. Awesome, Awesome, We're ready. You really don't
Speaker 1: do that. But I was like, whatever, I'm down.
Speaker 4: Because and you feel like that alcohol. You don't feel
Speaker 4: like you would have been like that if you were sober.
Speaker 1: Well I know for a fact, I wouldn't be like
Speaker 1: that because I've had sex sober, oh, which I couldn't
Speaker 1: wait for it to be over most of the time.
Speaker 1: So maybe that could be it. Okay, all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: it probably was it. Yeah. So not only is it that,
Speaker 1: like I'm going into new territory where it's like I'm
Speaker 1: going to be banging it out without an ounce of
Speaker 1: alcohol in my system. Yeah. However, I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be fun because I've been like talking to a few people, okay,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I fucking got it. Yeah, you still
Speaker 1: got it? I still got it.
Speaker 2: You think it'll be fun? What do you think the
Speaker 2: difference will be?
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I love nipple play, okay, And
Speaker 1: I'm a little concerned because do I warn the dude, like, hey,
Speaker 1: I lack tape. You could be into that if you
Speaker 1: are go to town put it in your mouth?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Or do I tell like, do I tell them that
Speaker 1: that happens so that they can say, fun, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try it out, or like avoid that area reight my mouth?
Speaker 1: Maybe they just want to do a little Hong Kong.
Speaker 4: I definitely say I would say something because here's the
Speaker 4: two things. I feel like, it's a win win. Number one,
Speaker 4: you're telling a guy what you want sexually. Always a win,
Speaker 4: always a win right. Number two, they might love it
Speaker 4: and they might it might turn them on. And number
Speaker 4: number three, if you tell them and they're not into it,
Speaker 4: then there you go. No one's shocked, No one's accidentally
Speaker 4: getting milk squirted in their face.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, no, I know, and I get suited. Like,
Speaker 1: to me, that's a turn on, Like when I think
Speaker 1: about like a dude there, Yeah, that happening. I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's hot. And it tastes like almond milk. It's really good.
Speaker 1: It's so good.
Speaker 2: Does it squirt?
Speaker 4: Because I had no idea, Like I think you mentioned
Speaker 4: it and I was like, wait, you see you're still
Speaker 4: lac taba.
Speaker 1: Oh if you got a grown man's mouth on there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he gave a good pull. Oh it's gonna get's shoot it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's right. It's like a little tiny it's almost like
Speaker 1: you a pinhole in a balloon. Yeah that time, yes,
Speaker 1: where it's like yes, yeah, that's what it's like.
Speaker 4: It might be honestly a turn on more than you think,
Speaker 4: Like Kyle, he can't wait until I'm pregnant because like
Speaker 4: he's like, I am going to town.
Speaker 1: And it free.
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, that's so strange. I don't want to
Speaker 4: watch you do that. But you're saying like that's something
Speaker 4: you want to watch.
Speaker 1: I definitely want to watch that. See.
Speaker 2: I think it's Valley more of a turn on than
Speaker 2: you think.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm into that. Yeah, but the other thing is Jess,
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be so vulnerable right now. I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm ready to like the texting game is
Speaker 1: where it's at, and like I'm not a weirdo, Like
Speaker 1: I don't sext, right, I don't sext I'm thirty fucking one, right,
Speaker 1: I'm a grown ass woman. Yes, we're not sexting. If
Speaker 1: I want to sext, you just come.
Speaker 4: Over right, you might touch it, right, I'm not gonna pretend,
Speaker 4: so I.
Speaker 1: Don't do this sexting thing. I can flirt and I
Speaker 1: can give like the cute little like that's the direction
Speaker 1: I would like to go with you in my bed,
Speaker 1: right sexting though it ain't happening. Of better things to do?
Speaker 1: Where was I going with this thought.
Speaker 4: We were talking about talking about you said, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: be very vulnerable.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I don't think I'm like I'm still in
Speaker 1: this zone of like I can text dudes or whatever,
Speaker 1: but like I don't feel right about leaving my kid
Speaker 1: behind to go on a date yet, Like I'm just
Speaker 1: not there And there could be people that say there's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that, like you deserve to go and
Speaker 1: do that. I just don't want to do that. I'll
Speaker 1: take time away from ocean to go with my girlfriends
Speaker 1: and like blow off some steam and have girl time.
Speaker 1: That I will do. I feel like that's good for
Speaker 1: my soul and my heart. A dude, I don't know
Speaker 1: about all that right now. Yeah, but I have a
Speaker 1: consultation about getting these tig old biddies done, okay, right, okay, right,
Speaker 1: and I'm excited for that. Once I get some new
Speaker 1: fun bag twins, I may be ready to roll out,
Speaker 1: right right.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yes, suh, I'm interested in that. Okay, I'm
Speaker 4: interested in that. Would you say you're getting your boobs
Speaker 4: done for yourself or men?
Speaker 1: By the by the sound of it, it sounds like
Speaker 1: I'm getting my boobs done for men. But it's getting
Speaker 1: my boobs done for me because then I you know
Speaker 1: when they say kids suck the life out of your
Speaker 1: boobs if you choose to breastfeed or if you're even
Speaker 1: able to, they literally suck the life out of them.
Speaker 1: Like I got some I got some cute little boobies,
Speaker 1: right yeah, but it looks they they're they're small now,
Speaker 1: they're they're not the boobies that I had before Ocean,
Speaker 1: and they for damn tarn't the boobies I had when
Speaker 1: I was pregnant or breastfeating Ocean read two hours. They
Speaker 1: were massive, massive, and I loved them.
Speaker 4: Okay, so you're getting them done, well, I mean it
Speaker 4: makes sense here.
Speaker 1: Myself, and then I'm gonna be generous enough to share them.
Speaker 1: To share them fine ass men?
Speaker 2: So do you think that's the only thing holding you back?
Speaker 4: Like, you know, well, I'm not comfortable going on dates
Speaker 4: now because I think I'd get horny and want to
Speaker 4: have sex and like, my boobs aren't done yet. Do
Speaker 4: you think once you get your boobs done, it's like
Speaker 4: go time or do you think it's just it's it's
Speaker 4: too much?
Speaker 1: No, I think you would think that by what I'm saying. Definitely,
Speaker 1: I'm all over the place today. No, but it's good.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I'm going to break it down because I like like
Speaker 1: making funny jokes, right, but for real, mentally, I'm not there. Okay,
Speaker 1: once I get my boobs done, I probably still won't
Speaker 1: be there, but I'm excited for that.
Speaker 2: For me, I love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the bounce back. It's like, ooh, there's
Speaker 1: nothing hotter than like a hot mom. It's like, right,
Speaker 1: she's fine. Oh, and she's like a human being, right,
Speaker 1: Like she popped a baby out of that cookie, right,
Speaker 1: bad ass?
Speaker 4: I know, and there's more hot moms. Maybe it's just
Speaker 4: like I don't know, I feel like there's more hot
Speaker 4: moms today than there has ever been, and.
Speaker 1: I don't want it. We don't even have to pop
Speaker 1: that out of your own cookie. It's just like when
Speaker 1: someone becomes the mom, it's like you are suddenly the
Speaker 1: hottest human I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Right, right, And I think that's great. Confidence is the
Speaker 2: hottest thing.
Speaker 1: I just want boobies. You just want boobies.
Speaker 4: She's saying that to someone who's like has like ten
Speaker 4: times smaller boobs than her.
Speaker 1: I've seen your boy. You have a great ass. And
Speaker 1: I asked my gusbands. I said, how long do I
Speaker 1: work on my ass before I say fuck it? I'm
Speaker 1: injecting it right? What did? What did? They say? They're like,
Speaker 1: give it three months? Three months? That seems kind of low.
Speaker 4: I love that they like that answer, because I would
Speaker 4: have been like, oh my, it's getting it's looking great.
Speaker 4: But the gusbands are like ninety days and then go
Speaker 4: get it in if it's not looking at the way
Speaker 4: I want.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean, who knows. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at all these Mommy makeover things right the ass though
Speaker 1: I want it as its own planet. But I don't
Speaker 1: know that I have that build. But when I see
Speaker 1: those girls with those huge butts, I get so jealous.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's so hot.
Speaker 2: Well, your butt has grown.
Speaker 4: I feel like in the past two week, like there's
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, You're leggings and I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 4: what is going on back there?
Speaker 1: Well, because it used to be flat as bored, so
Speaker 1: I had the I had such a bomb booty when
Speaker 1: I was working out, and then at twenty weeks I
Speaker 1: was placed on bed rest with ocean. I couldn't maintain
Speaker 1: working out anymore. And then you have the kid and
Speaker 1: we go straight into film me and it's like I'm tired.
Speaker 1: Like the last thing I want to go and do
Speaker 1: is work out right now, right, So I'm just starting.
Speaker 1: I think it's been like two weeks that I got
Speaker 1: in that I've been in the gym.
Speaker 2: But it shows, but it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to keep my flat stomach and grow
Speaker 1: a fat ass.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So if any of you guys know how to do that,
Speaker 1: can you please call me at one eight sixty six
Speaker 1: D or if you know a good doctor who can
Speaker 1: inject this flatty, I will take that route if necessary.
Speaker 1: I will do anything for some tigle bennies and a
Speaker 1: big booby.
Speaker 4: Updated on that in ninety days exactly three months.
Speaker 1: After three months, if I don't see Kim k results,
Speaker 1: we are into the doctor perfect. I love it. So
Speaker 1: I have a really dope guest today, Melissa Gorga. I
Speaker 1: have a crush on her, I do. She's so beautiful.
Speaker 1: She's beautiful, yes, and I love her husband Joe. I
Speaker 1: love their dynamic. I love her as to see her
Speaker 1: as a mama and just like their family is.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know you have hot moms. How many kids
Speaker 2: does she have?
Speaker 1: Oh, she is a hot mom. She just three and
Speaker 1: they're like grown. Ye're grown. So I'm excited to talk
Speaker 1: to her. I want to, you know, dig into the
Speaker 1: new season of Real house Sives of New Jersey because
Speaker 1: I'm a huge never met a housewives franchise that I
Speaker 1: didn't like. I watched every single one of them, so perfect.
Speaker 1: I'm a fangirl. Before we have Melissa Gorga the foinest
Speaker 1: on the podcast. Part one of the Vanner Pump Rules
Speaker 1: Reunion aired last night. Part two will air tonight. It's
Speaker 1: definitely juicy. I've seen both of them. There are things
Speaker 1: that I want to address because obviously, you know, we
Speaker 1: filmed for a really long time. You gotta chop everything
Speaker 1: up and make things not really make sense. But what
Speaker 1: is the the most entertaining of everything we filmed? So
Speaker 1: some of the shit doesn't really like add up. Right,
Speaker 1: It's like things were said and I'm gonna spill the
Speaker 1: tea on why they were said. I said what I said. Oh,
Speaker 1: so there's that. Next week, I'm going all out on
Speaker 1: segment one of the podcast. Oh, no one is safe, Jessica,
Speaker 1: No one's safe.
Speaker 4: So next week you're going to talk about reunion part
Speaker 4: one and part two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. That's just a little teaser. Just
Speaker 1: a little teaser. And you know what, don't come for
Speaker 1: me unless I send for you, all right, she said it.
Speaker 1: These hoes want to go toes and then when I react,
Speaker 1: they don't like it too much. Yeah, well, we'll see
Speaker 1: how much they like the tam about to spill next week.
Speaker 1: With that being said, we will be right back. I'm
Speaker 1: on a fucking what is happening? I'll be back to
Speaker 1: normal soon. I promise We'll be right back with Melissa Gorga.
Speaker 1: We are back. We have Melissa Gorga. Hello, gorgeous, Hi pretty,
Speaker 1: how are you? We're so good. I'm so excited to
Speaker 1: have you. We've been trying to get this on the
Speaker 1: books for a minute, and here you are.
Speaker 3: I'm here live from New Jersey. What's going on? I know,
Speaker 3: I feel like I spoke to you not that long ago.
Speaker 1: You have.
Speaker 3: I just want to tell you that every time I
Speaker 3: jump on Instagram, all I see is your face. I'm like,
Speaker 3: are you like losing it right now? Because you are
Speaker 3: like on everything E News, this that like, there's so
Speaker 3: much talk about you right now.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I don't know if that's a good
Speaker 1: thing or a bad thing, but you know, we'll we'll
Speaker 1: just take it and move on. I try not to look.
Speaker 1: Every time I see my face on the Explore page,
Speaker 1: I refresh immediately.
Speaker 3: Okay, well I'm not saying say much bad about you.
Speaker 3: I'll just say that, but well then that's good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the new season, you're you're feeling excited?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't believe we're in season twelve. I always say,
Speaker 3: it's crazy. I've been doing this show literally since my
Speaker 3: daughter is four and she's sixteen, so it's just crazy.
Speaker 3: You're actually going to see her sweet sixteen this year.
Speaker 3: So to believe, like just to even know that I
Speaker 3: have a sixteen year old daughter for me is like crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy for us to because I feel like that's
Speaker 1: why we all feel like we know you. I'm a
Speaker 1: fan of your show obviously, even though I'm on Bravo,
Speaker 1: I'm also a huge Bravo fan. And to see your
Speaker 1: Instagram and your kids that we've been watching since they
Speaker 1: were children, I mean, that's gotta be so weird and
Speaker 1: kind of make you sad.
Speaker 3: It is. It's crazy when I see like, you know,
Speaker 3: you know the Bravo fans. I mean, I know I'm
Speaker 3: talking to you here, so you know the Bravo fans.
Speaker 3: They are intense. They are in there. So they will
Speaker 3: send me dms and videos of you know, the little
Speaker 3: memes and gifts of like my children from when they
Speaker 3: were little, and I literally want to like cry. They'll
Speaker 3: put little videos together like oh remember this from season
Speaker 3: three or season four, and I look at my kids
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my god, they were babies, and
Speaker 3: it's like I feel like that is the good part.
Speaker 3: I guess it being on reality TV with the kids,
Speaker 3: it's like I have a lot of those memories documented
Speaker 3: and like, you know, it's not like we my father
Speaker 3: used to walk around with that VHS recorder thing, you know,
Speaker 3: that big old like big that, but like I have Bravo,
Speaker 3: Like I can turn on any season and get like
Speaker 3: a funny little scene of my kids like running through
Speaker 3: my house or screaming or something. So it's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're just like I can't believe how long this season
Speaker 3: has been. And this season, let me just tell you,
Speaker 3: is like drama season for real. Like I know, I'm
Speaker 3: not here to be like, oh my god, it's the
Speaker 3: best season ever, because I hate when people do that
Speaker 3: every season, but this one really is like it brings
Speaker 3: back like the old school. Like I'm like I saw
Speaker 3: the trailer and I'm like, this is giving me like
Speaker 3: mom wives vibes. What's happening here? They were everybody's like
Speaker 3: it's high that the tensions are high, and it's because
Speaker 3: it's about a lot about relationships and when people what
Speaker 3: makes you more mad than when someone talks about like
Speaker 3: your husband, your boyfriend and your family. Like so that's
Speaker 3: a lot of what this season is about relationships. So
Speaker 3: everyone's like losing their shit.
Speaker 1: I noticed that in the trailer. And nothing will make
Speaker 1: you comfort someone harder than when they come for you know,
Speaker 1: your man or the person that you're with. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've been there before. And do you ever get anxiety
Speaker 1: before a new season airs, because you know you're if
Speaker 1: I don't know if they do it the same for you.
Speaker 1: I mean we don't get to see the episodes like
Speaker 1: way before the rest of everybody else. I mean you
Speaker 1: see the episode maybe a couple of days before it airs,
Speaker 1: and you don't have much time to process it, and
Speaker 1: we don't know what it's gonna look like, like the
Speaker 1: editing process. So do you do you get a little
Speaker 1: bit of anxiety or are you so used to it
Speaker 1: at this point.
Speaker 3: I only get anxiety when it's about the family drama.
Speaker 3: That is the only thing I get anxiety about. So
Speaker 3: this very first episode, like the first couple episodes, there's
Speaker 3: family drama between Joe and like Teresa and Gia, and
Speaker 3: just like a little bit of the family drama drops
Speaker 3: in there the first couple, So that gives me anxiety
Speaker 3: because I never want people to take it the wrong way.
Speaker 3: It's like, the reason people love Jersey is because we
Speaker 3: do put it all out there with our family and
Speaker 3: it's raw, it's real. But you know, it's hard because
Speaker 3: we're all going to you know, I'm gonna see Teresa Sunday.
Speaker 3: We're all gonna have we're all going to go to
Speaker 3: her house for dinner to eat, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's like if we're watching something on TV and we
Speaker 3: say things in these interviews, right, and then you go
Speaker 3: and have dinner. It's awkward, it's weird. It's like you
Speaker 3: have to really differentiate sometimes the show from like Okay,
Speaker 3: well that's what we were going through six months ago,
Speaker 3: but today we're going to have dinner because we remember,
Speaker 3: we made up. We're good today, like we got through
Speaker 3: that situation. But it's hard while it's airing because that's
Speaker 3: always the tough part because you're watching what you already
Speaker 3: got through six months ago, you know, and when your
Speaker 3: family now, you guys like you can be like screw
Speaker 3: you see you when you film, see when I film,
Speaker 3: But like, we can't do that. We go to Christmases together,
Speaker 3: we have birthdays. It's Gia just turned twenty one. I'm
Speaker 3: going to her house to have dinner. Like it's like,
Speaker 3: this is what we do. So the show is hard
Speaker 3: with the family dynamic. It's definitely hard.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and you know you also watch it back because yes,
Speaker 1: we live it. But then you get to see what
Speaker 1: everyone said in their little confessionals and you're like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, that's stupid, bitch, and like it brings up
Speaker 1: a whole new, you know, can of emotions because you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: like I got that. We were, you know, at each
Speaker 1: other's throats. But then you're in your confessional and then
Speaker 1: you're saying this to whoever, and it is you have
Speaker 1: to relive everything. And for you, I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: you've dealt with family drama in past seasons and it's
Speaker 1: always giving you anxiety. I mean it would give anyone anxiety,
Speaker 1: but like you've dropped to your knees begging for that
Speaker 1: to stop. So like, what is your outlet? Like how
Speaker 1: I know you say you have to differentiate the difference
Speaker 1: between like real life and real life, you know, the
Speaker 1: one on camera and the one that is not on camera,
Speaker 1: like how do you do that? Does Joe help you
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 3: No, I feel like we're pros at it at this point.
Speaker 3: I feel like we've learned and even you know, within
Speaker 3: our own family dynamic. I mean really like I feel
Speaker 3: like the Gorgas and the judea Ice is really you know,
Speaker 3: we've held that show for so long because we've given
Speaker 3: our real family drama to it. So we've also learned
Speaker 3: how to separate the two. And it's not that it's
Speaker 3: real life and fake life. That's not really what's going
Speaker 3: on because all the situations are real. But what's going
Speaker 3: on is it's the life that happened probably six months ago.
Speaker 3: So you're trying to like come back, like you're trying
Speaker 3: not to go back to that spot when you're eating
Speaker 3: Sunday dinner. That's always like the challenge because no matter
Speaker 3: what you want to be, like, oh, like on that
Speaker 3: interview when you said, you know, it's always the confessional
Speaker 3: I Shall kill you. Reality TV, we get like Ballsy
Speaker 3: and our confessionals because it's your time to just go
Speaker 3: and it's venting and you're not really saying it to
Speaker 3: someone's face. So I feel like everyone gets there, like
Speaker 3: it's a little ballsy, and the confessionals.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm the I totally agree in my confessionals. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm with a therapist who's always team wai
Speaker 1: la yes, and I just rant, just like.
Speaker 3: Go tell us you have every right to feel that way.
Speaker 1: They do. They encourage it, and then they look at
Speaker 1: you and you see this big grin on their face,
Speaker 1: you know, the person that's sitting there talking to you,
Speaker 1: and you just are like, and.
Speaker 3: They're so happy or delivering, and it's.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, you feel like I did great today, And
Speaker 1: then you watch it and you're like, why did I
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 3: It's so funny. There's such a big difference between like
Speaker 3: sitting in that room with your makeup done all ready
Speaker 3: to go, with the lights on, so like when you're
Speaker 3: on the couch watch and you're like, oh shit, I said.
Speaker 1: That, Like I know, like, how can one person into
Speaker 1: such a savage in a room by herself with a
Speaker 1: camera onner It happened.
Speaker 3: It happens. They think we're by ourselves, little do they
Speaker 3: know there's cameramenal lights and there's per asking us questions
Speaker 3: and you know, you think you're by yourself, but it's
Speaker 3: just it's a vibe and it's also it really is
Speaker 3: truly like a venting situation. It's like you've been dying
Speaker 3: to vent and there's someone in front of you with
Speaker 3: a psychiatrist or a therapist that's just like vent, tell
Speaker 3: me everything, and you just I just go.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I don't know. I just oh, I've been
Speaker 1: on a roll some of those times. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: and you know, they don't care if you want things
Speaker 1: cut out. They're like, you said it, if we like it,
Speaker 1: it's being used.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's that's for sure. I have over the years.
Speaker 3: I'll never forget. Like the first couple of seasons I
Speaker 3: was on the show, I would call and be like,
Speaker 3: oh no, like this is totally taken out of context,
Speaker 3: Like that is not how that went down. Like I
Speaker 3: didn't like the way that came off. And they were like, yeah,
Speaker 3: well if you say it and you do it, Like
Speaker 3: there is absolutely nothing like any one of the things
Speaker 3: we have editing over like we have no editing at all,
Speaker 3: no editing rights, Like we have to accept whatever comes
Speaker 3: at right and that is it. Like we can't all
Speaker 3: and complain and they'll change it. That doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I do know. I wish that I had
Speaker 1: that power because I would edit a lot of things.
Speaker 3: Don't we all. I want my next reality TV show,
Speaker 3: I'm going to produce it also, that's what I've decided.
Speaker 1: That's the money move, be a producer on the actual
Speaker 1: show that you're on. I feel like when the way
Speaker 1: that I like compartmentalize real life versus my real life,
Speaker 1: that's the only way I know how to put it,
Speaker 1: because like you said, it is real life is I
Speaker 1: have to remember whatever is edited for the actual show,
Speaker 1: even though that is my behavior. If I go insane
Speaker 1: or I say something messed up, it's like, okay, but
Speaker 1: we made a damn good show. Like that's the only
Speaker 1: way I can get through it, Melissa. For me to
Speaker 1: not be mortified during certain moments, I have to just
Speaker 1: sit there and be like it was entertaining.
Speaker 3: So it and you almost owe that to like, you know,
Speaker 3: there is a piece of this where yes, it's your
Speaker 3: real life and it's it's your real thoughts and feelings
Speaker 3: and opinions, but like, at the same time, we are
Speaker 3: making television trucks, you know, So there is a part
Speaker 3: where you're like, okay, like I make nobody wants to
Speaker 3: watch anybody like sew us a blanket, you know what,
Speaker 3: Like nobody wants to see that, you know. So there
Speaker 3: is an aspect of it where it's like we're on
Speaker 3: reality TV and you know, we know it. So there
Speaker 3: is a certain part that you do have to give
Speaker 3: up that vulnerable side and get a little crazy sometimes
Speaker 3: and oh shit, what did I do or say? But
Speaker 3: it's like you're on reality television, so you almost owe
Speaker 3: it to the fans, you know, to show them what
Speaker 3: you really feel and how it's really going down.
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. Did you ever I'm a
Speaker 1: huge fan of yours, like I fan Girl Out all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Did you ever feel worried about putting your your kids
Speaker 1: on TV at such a young age and were you
Speaker 1: worried about like what the trolls would say or did
Speaker 1: you even go there when you signed up for the show.
Speaker 1: Did it just seem like we're a family, like this
Speaker 1: could be a fun opportunity or did you think, like
Speaker 1: my kids are really young, I don't know that I
Speaker 1: want them out there like that.
Speaker 3: I did worry about the kids at in the beginning,
Speaker 3: but my kids were so young Joey was two months old,
Speaker 3: so it was like I was they weren't teenagers, I
Speaker 3: think I would worry more because at the time, it's like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: what's my four year old going to do wrong? And
Speaker 3: Gina was two, so you're thinking, oh, they're going to
Speaker 3: show them just so cute and they're cute outfits and
Speaker 3: like playing. That's where my brain went, like how big
Speaker 3: of a bow can I put on our head? And yeah,
Speaker 3: like there's too Like I'm like, they're going to be
Speaker 3: playing on the floor. I worry about it more now
Speaker 3: that I have a cour Yes, definitely more as a teenager,
Speaker 3: because their friends actually watched the show. Know, in preschool,
Speaker 3: nobody's watching The Real Housewives and U Jerity. Now their
Speaker 3: friends watch it. We go to the we go to
Speaker 3: the football games, and their friends are like like you know,
Speaker 3: their friends are like, holy where you know, I could
Speaker 3: have gone anywhere with them in the beginning seasons and
Speaker 3: they don't know what's going on the kids. But now
Speaker 3: you know, the teenagers are fans. They watch the show
Speaker 3: and so you know, Antonia, I'll be driving with Antonio,
Speaker 3: She'll put it on FaceTime like so and so I
Speaker 3: want to say hi, mom, Like, hey, Like, it's like
Speaker 3: that I worry about you don't have to worry about
Speaker 3: it while your your beautiful little daughter is dis little.
Speaker 3: It's it's when they turn into like you know, I
Speaker 3: would say eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, like these eight. This
Speaker 3: is where it gets a little difficult because they're old
Speaker 3: enough to understand what the show is. They've seen it
Speaker 3: on TV. Their parents are watching it and they sit
Speaker 3: down they're like, oh, that's my friend's mom, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, that's where so you have some
Speaker 3: time before you have to stress about about, you know,
Speaker 3: your child being on TV. But it's definitely harder for
Speaker 3: me now, definitely because I worry sometimes what she's going
Speaker 3: to say. Like a lot of the times they love
Speaker 3: my kids in the scene and they love my kids
Speaker 3: to film, so I worry. I'm like, Oh, I don't
Speaker 3: want her to say anything as a sixteen year old
Speaker 3: girl that she's ever going to regret because I can't
Speaker 3: guarantee I can get it taken out totally.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: That's stressful Now, it's stressful. Back then, it was not stressful.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you just gave me all the anxiety
Speaker 1: in the world.
Speaker 3: I worry about that, to be honest, now, you know,
Speaker 3: because now I have the podcast and I'm doing that
Speaker 3: all the time. I worry about just what Joe and
Speaker 3: I say on my podcast, to be honest, Like just
Speaker 3: because we talk so personal about relationship and our marriage,
Speaker 3: and like sometimes I worry just what she's going to
Speaker 3: hear on the podcast. Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: Because I feel like the podcast is on edit, it's
Speaker 3: even a little a little more raunchy than definitely more
Speaker 3: raunchy than the show is, like from what Joe and
Speaker 3: I will say to each other. So I'm like, God,
Speaker 3: and she's listening. I'm now I'm always thinking about her listening.
Speaker 1: So she she listens to your podcast.
Speaker 3: Well, she's very active on Instagram. You know, I'm posting, Yes,
Speaker 3: I'm posting the clips, Like I posted a clip yesterday
Speaker 3: just about like Joe, like that they try to get
Speaker 3: in the room while we're you know, while Joe's there's
Speaker 3: no lock on it, right, So he comes home He's like,
Speaker 3: you know, she heard that. Now she's gonna think every time.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I know. Like, so it's a thing when
Speaker 3: your kids get this age because they understand everything. Like
Speaker 3: just that clip loaned to her, She's probably like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, my parents are trying to like have sex
Speaker 3: in the room and I'm I'm bart I'm ruining it
Speaker 3: for them all the time.
Speaker 1: Oh my, that's what I go.
Speaker 3: You know, yes, So if I'm saying this, that's why
Speaker 3: I'm like, there's just so much to be part of
Speaker 3: this world. When you have children that kind of like,
Speaker 3: it does get a little scary, and it also it
Speaker 3: also makes them very mature because you they end up
Speaker 3: hearing it all, knowing it all, and like, I am
Speaker 3: blessed I have like great kids. They really are great.
Speaker 3: They're very mature. They're not they're like above the frey.
Speaker 3: They don't care that they're like that everyone knows their name,
Speaker 3: or that they're on TV or how it goes.
Speaker 1: Used to it.
Speaker 3: You think they're used to it, but it's not something
Speaker 3: they thrive off of, which I love. It's not My
Speaker 3: kids are athletes. They're like athletes. They play football, they wrestle.
Speaker 3: My daughters and a gymnast and a cheerleader. So they
Speaker 3: thrive off that, which I love because you never know,
Speaker 3: growing up in this world, they could have turned into
Speaker 3: some little monsters like thinking who not shit and like
Speaker 3: who they are? You know, but they thank god it's
Speaker 3: been good.
Speaker 1: Well that makes me happy because you're right. They could
Speaker 1: have turned into like little baby terrorists. You don't know.
Speaker 3: You don't know when you sign up for this stuff,
Speaker 3: like what's going to happen to your life? I didn't know.
Speaker 3: I mean my life changed drastically from just you know,
Speaker 3: so drastically, like you know, I'm so in business now
Speaker 3: and I'm so busy all the time, where before I
Speaker 3: was like where am I going shopping today? And who
Speaker 3: am I going to have lunch with? And like now
Speaker 3: I'm like I'm busy. I can't get off my phone
Speaker 3: or leave my desk for four hours.
Speaker 1: To see where you were at the very beginning and
Speaker 1: where you are now is so amazing. And you have
Speaker 1: been so open about your life, which you know, just
Speaker 1: because you're on reality TV. There's a lot of reality
Speaker 1: TV people who don't open up their lives, you know,
Speaker 1: the way I feel you do or Teresa does. And
Speaker 1: I remember this scene of you. I believe you were
Speaker 1: on the couch with Joan. It was when you were
Speaker 1: you were wanting to go and like be a business woman,
Speaker 1: and you had kind of felt like, you know, being
Speaker 1: the housewife and the mom was just not fulfilling enough anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it's I don't want to say not fulfilling,
Speaker 3: because you'll see, it's always fulfilling. It's fulfilling to raise
Speaker 3: a family and have children, and that's it.
Speaker 1: So walk me through that. Walk me through that, because
Speaker 1: because for me, I don't know that I would be
Speaker 1: fulfilled by just being a mom. So walk me through
Speaker 1: you saying that it is fulfilling but what you were
Speaker 1: in search of.
Speaker 3: Right, So, and that makes total sense what you just said,
Speaker 3: because you're right, it's it's fulfilling, but it's not one
Speaker 3: hundred percent about you or your dreams or your goals.
Speaker 3: So what you're doing is you're fulfilling the needs of
Speaker 3: everyone else all day and it makes you fulfilled because
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, I did the right thing today. I
Speaker 3: did the right thing today for my daughter, or I
Speaker 3: made this, I did this, I made dinner. My husband's happy,
Speaker 3: everybody's happy, but I want more, you know. And that's
Speaker 3: where I always tell even new moms like yourself, and
Speaker 3: like you know, girls who are just getting married and
Speaker 3: they're younger and and you know right from the start
Speaker 3: you can do both, and it does seems it's like
Speaker 3: it's weird. There's always like this thing where it's like, well,
Speaker 3: the woman is supposed to take care of the kids
Speaker 3: all day, and who's then we have to pay for
Speaker 3: the babysitter and then this and then that. But it's like, no,
Speaker 3: it's both of your problems. And that's what I learned
Speaker 3: later in life that it's not it's not just all
Speaker 3: on the mom. It's on both of you, you know,
Speaker 3: to figure it out. And I used to just take
Speaker 3: all the heat and be like, this is on me,
Speaker 3: it's my kid. Let me figure out how I'm going
Speaker 3: to like open up envy because I opened up that
Speaker 3: whole business and I did all of this, and I
Speaker 3: literally would still run to the bus stop to pick
Speaker 3: my kids up from school halfway through day until I
Speaker 3: got it functioning enough where I was able to like,
Speaker 3: wait a second, pull babysitters in and pull nanny's in
Speaker 3: and get the extra help that I needed. But I
Speaker 3: feel like you, even though we're having families and we're
Speaker 3: creating families, and you still need to have your inner
Speaker 3: happiness of what your dreams are what your goals are.
Speaker 3: If you want to open a little shop, open a shop.
Speaker 3: If your dream is to create a cosmetic line, because
Speaker 3: that's what you want to do, well, then that's what
Speaker 3: you need to do. We can't let things like motherhood.
Speaker 3: You can't just say, oh, well, you know, that's not right,
Speaker 3: and a lot of times that guilt sets in of
Speaker 3: like I'm going to work too much and then what
Speaker 3: am I doing to my child? There is a way
Speaker 3: to kind of to make it all happen. It's not
Speaker 3: always easy, but it's a barrier that I broke through.
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people kind of like
Speaker 3: to watch me go through that process because they watched
Speaker 3: me as a thirty year old girl, because that's what
Speaker 3: I was at the time when I started all this
Speaker 3: on the TV, and they watched me kind of break
Speaker 3: through and work my way up and braz these kids
Speaker 3: and go into my Now I turned forty, you know,
Speaker 3: so for the last ten years they've been watching me
Speaker 3: go from like just a mom at home all this
Speaker 3: time into a businesswoman where I did open envy and
Speaker 3: I broke through that and now I'm opening a second envy,
Speaker 3: a second envy double the size is about to open
Speaker 3: next month. So that's that's huge for me, you know,
Speaker 3: I just always yes, I'm.
Speaker 1: Very excited, so excited for you. Yes, And where's the
Speaker 1: second location.
Speaker 3: The second location is in Bridgewood, New Jersey, which is
Speaker 3: like a great town over here. I mean my online
Speaker 3: my online store is like phenomenal. That's where. I mean
Speaker 3: everyone from California, Florida, Dallas, everywhere.
Speaker 1: It's like the online is accessible to everybody. Yes, but
Speaker 1: my brick and waters do so well too. So I'm
Speaker 1: opening one double the size now and super super excited.
Speaker 3: But that's when I'm Solissa.
Speaker 1: That is freaking huge. A second store. I'm like beyond
Speaker 1: happy for you, thank you, thank you. Well everyone else
Speaker 1: is shutting down. You're expanding.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm either crazy or we'll see. But now
Speaker 3: I like a challenge. I'm a work I've always been
Speaker 3: a worker, that is me. Like before I even met Joe,
Speaker 3: I had three jobs, like whether be I worked at
Speaker 3: a tanic salon, a title company. I answered the phones
Speaker 3: over here. I bartended on like a Thursday or Friday night.
Speaker 3: Like I was just always someone who's like I'm not
Speaker 3: going to sit down. I don't I don't. I obviously
Speaker 3: love that Joe is successful and that he can take
Speaker 3: care of himself. But trust me, ladies, is ever listening
Speaker 3: out there? It is. There's something about making your own money,
Speaker 3: even if you don't need to. It's there's something about that.
Speaker 3: It's it's freeing. It's that thing if something unexpected, expected,
Speaker 3: as you would know, comes out of life right and
Speaker 3: you get hit with the left, You're like, I'm good.
Speaker 3: Like you can walk when you need to walk, you
Speaker 3: can buy something when you need to buy it. There's
Speaker 3: something very freeing about about having your own business or
Speaker 3: working and having doing what you love. You know, So
Speaker 3: I always.
Speaker 1: Promote that I love that you said that, and I
Speaker 1: actually want to come back to it. After we cut
Speaker 1: to a short break, we will be right back with
Speaker 1: Melissa Gorga. We are back with my most favorite housewife.
Speaker 1: Do feel uncomfortable every time I'm asked about my favorite
Speaker 1: housewife and I'm like, I'm gonna snag her from Joe?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm joking, right, not that that would ever happen,
Speaker 1: But I never want to make anyone feel uncomfortable. But
Speaker 1: I think it's fun to set Joe and he loves you.
Speaker 3: He always Joe loves you, by the way too. He's
Speaker 3: always like, she's so cute. I'm like, when we go out,
Speaker 3: when we're in LA, We're gonna go have like a
Speaker 3: drink with her?
Speaker 1: Please do? I would love that. Give me a call.
Speaker 1: I would love to hang out with you and Joe.
Speaker 1: Going back to what we were talking about before, when
Speaker 1: did you realize that it was important for you to
Speaker 1: be making your own money? Was it because you're in
Speaker 1: a great marriage, you have a beautiful family, like you
Speaker 1: were probably one of those people who will never need
Speaker 1: a plan to be ever.
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I always say never say never, but
Speaker 3: I from your mouth to God's ears, right, like that's
Speaker 3: always how I how I You know, I would love
Speaker 3: things to go in life, just like we all would.
Speaker 3: But I think I just I don't know. I've watched
Speaker 3: Joe be so successful because he's a developer in New Jersey.
Speaker 3: So he'll take old warehouses and he'll buy them and
Speaker 3: convert them into like apartment buildings and condos. And this
Speaker 3: is what he loves to do, right, this is what
Speaker 3: gives him and it was successful for our family. But
Speaker 3: I would watch him, you know, kind of doing all
Speaker 3: these things and feel proud and you know, break the
Speaker 3: wall down at another building. And I said to myself, like,
Speaker 3: I'm happy for him, but but I want something that's mine,
Speaker 3: and I feel like that's when you know, you know,
Speaker 3: you start to say what am I good at?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: What? What do I love to do? What gives me
Speaker 3: a high? Like what gets me excited? Yes, your kids
Speaker 3: are going to give you a high. Yes, there's nothing
Speaker 3: like a child in.
Speaker 1: The world, but they grow up.
Speaker 3: You're never gonna have complete happiness unless you have your
Speaker 3: own happiness, something inside that's you. And I love clothes.
Speaker 3: I've always loved fashion. Fashion is fun for me. I've
Speaker 3: always been good. I'm always the one that everyone used
Speaker 3: to call my girlfriend's like they don't know what to wear.
Speaker 3: I'll like put an outfit for them together. So that's
Speaker 3: what I loved. And you know what I you know
Speaker 3: how I really got started with envy. Everyone when I
Speaker 3: was on the Real House Size of New Jersey would
Speaker 3: say to me, these these boutiques would give me clothes,
Speaker 3: which I'm sure you know, all the time I'd get clothes,
Speaker 3: they'd send me clothes. This brand would send me this salve.
Speaker 3: You'd wear them and then everyone's like, where'd you get
Speaker 3: your outfit? Where'd you get your outfit? And I would
Speaker 3: send them to that boutique. I would send them over there.
Speaker 3: I would send them over there, and I'm like, what
Speaker 3: the hell am I doing? Like why am I sending
Speaker 3: them to everyone else? Let me open my own boutique.
Speaker 3: And when everyone asked me what I'm wearing, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: say here, click this link Envy by MG dot com,
Speaker 3: like you know, And that's how Envy by Melissa Gorga
Speaker 3: came because I was like, why do I keep sending
Speaker 3: everyone everywhere else? Like it's it's let me send them
Speaker 3: to Envy by melissic Rga. And that's what I started doing.
Speaker 1: So crazy because it's so simple yet so hard to accomplish.
Speaker 1: The thought of it, The thought of it is like,
Speaker 1: let's open something. We'll send them to my boutique instead
Speaker 1: or my store. But the fact that you actually did it,
Speaker 1: and that's that's no easy feat because you had to
Speaker 1: go and find the clothing that you're going to fill
Speaker 1: your store with. You gotta be making enough money to
Speaker 1: keep new inventory in Like did anybody walk you through this?
Speaker 1: Did you have like a business partner or a mentor,
Speaker 1: because I wouldn't have even known where to start.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think I had met a lady at the
Speaker 3: time that was asking me to do like some photo
Speaker 3: shoots and stuff for her stores, all of her boutiques
Speaker 3: and all of this, and I was like I after
Speaker 3: a while, just like I said, I'm like, I gotta
Speaker 3: do this for my own boutique, Like this doesn't make
Speaker 3: sense for me anymore. So I did originally go into
Speaker 3: it with a partner, asking her like, you know, like
Speaker 3: do you want to do this together. I don't want
Speaker 3: to promote your boutique. I want it to be my
Speaker 3: own boutique, And we went in together. But within within
Speaker 3: six months I bought her out because she was just
Speaker 3: not it was not a good fit for me. So
Speaker 3: within six months I bought her out, and Envy just
Speaker 3: celebrated five years. We just had our five year anniversary,
Speaker 3: so congratulations going strong. But I always my advice to
Speaker 3: everyone is really really like if it's in your heart,
Speaker 3: if you keep thinking about it, if it keeps popping
Speaker 3: up and you're like, damn, I would really love to
Speaker 3: be like, like, I have a girlfriend that's like I
Speaker 3: just want she finds everyone everything, she wants to do
Speaker 3: the find Like, if you need to find something, this
Speaker 3: is where you need to go. You need to call
Speaker 3: her because she can find it for you. Like something
Speaker 3: as simple as that. If you know that that is
Speaker 3: what you're good at, make some start researching. Figure out
Speaker 3: how you could start small on a smaller platform, just
Speaker 3: like I did. I started with a smaller store, and
Speaker 3: then you as the years go on, it got bigger.
Speaker 3: My on my website. When I first started, we're nothing
Speaker 3: like they are now. I groupled them. It takes time,
Speaker 3: it takes.
Speaker 1: Patience, but little little bit at a time, but it
Speaker 1: becomes your baby and you you start to see its
Speaker 1: potential and its growth, and you become addicted.
Speaker 3: Addicted, Oh my god, addicted. I have a little app
Speaker 3: on my phone which this is so funny. It makes
Speaker 3: like a chit chin every time there's a sale, whether
Speaker 3: on the website or in store, it does like a
Speaker 3: little chichin. When it first started going off all the time,
Speaker 3: when I'd be like sitting on the couch with Joe
Speaker 3: and I'd be like, chit chang chang. It's like frigging
Speaker 3: at the casino. I'm like, oh my god, and Joe
Speaker 3: would just like look at me from across the couch like, ash, wow,
Speaker 3: a lot of people are shopping today. I'm like, yeah, bitch,
Speaker 3: I'm making money. What are you doing?
Speaker 1: What are you doing it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? It was like funny, like I would choose him
Speaker 3: because I always used to ask Joe. I was a
Speaker 3: girl out of college, Like as soon as I met Joe,
Speaker 3: I gradual way to college kind of at the same time.
Speaker 3: So I used to have to like say to him
Speaker 3: like I just was going to be I'm I have
Speaker 3: a BA in teaching, Okay, So I went to college
Speaker 3: to be a teacher. I was supposed to go be
Speaker 3: a elementary school teacher, and I ended up on reality
Speaker 3: TV within you know, a couple of years after being married.
Speaker 3: But it's just funny. I used to have to ask
Speaker 3: you for a hundred dollars bill. I'd be like, oh,
Speaker 3: you're going to work, okay, Like can I get like
Speaker 3: a hundred I don't know where I'm going to go todayay,
Speaker 3: or like whatever, I would need cash. And now I'm
Speaker 3: just like it's just funny. That's why we It's like
Speaker 3: a funny joke in our house because like when the
Speaker 3: chichain goes off I'm like, oh, yeah, don't need you what.
Speaker 1: Like, No, I love it because there's I feel like
Speaker 1: there's so many women who who do that and and
Speaker 1: they're as you know, I'm passionate about the topic of
Speaker 1: women having their own funds, and even if that means
Speaker 1: you work something out with your husband, if you're a
Speaker 1: stay at home mom and he gives you X amount
Speaker 1: of dollars every month. I just want women to have
Speaker 1: some sort of you know, safety net if God forbid,
Speaker 1: anything happened. And you know that could even mean for me.
Speaker 1: It was when the recession hit for my family and
Speaker 1: my dad went from you know, completely being okay and
Speaker 1: supporting us financially to what are we going to do?
Speaker 1: And it was my mom who stepped up to the
Speaker 1: plate because she had worked her entire life, never stopped
Speaker 1: even though she could have with my dad. And I
Speaker 1: saw that it doesn't even have to be like your
Speaker 1: relationship goes south, one partner could be put out of
Speaker 1: business tomorrow, and it feels nice the other one picks up.
Speaker 1: So I think that is great that you are also
Speaker 1: preaching that to chicks. I want to talk about your
Speaker 1: relationship with Joe, because I think it's something that a
Speaker 1: lot of people look at and they're like, I want that.
Speaker 1: It's so cute, it's so sweet. We know you have
Speaker 1: a great sex life, which is good for you.
Speaker 4: Girl.
Speaker 3: How could you not know?
Speaker 1: It makes me happy? Okay? I love you guys, and
Speaker 1: I love the way you display your love and affection
Speaker 1: for each other. And he is meant for reality TV,
Speaker 1: by the way, I know he is.
Speaker 3: He's such a ham. He's such a ham. And he's
Speaker 3: also just like he doesn't overthink it, which is sometimes
Speaker 3: a problem, which is also making amazing reality television because
Speaker 3: he doesn't think it at all. If he's thinking it,
Speaker 3: he's saying it right, that's Joe.
Speaker 1: And he doesn't care if you want to crawl under
Speaker 1: a table.
Speaker 3: He does not care. Do you know how many times
Speaker 3: I kicked Joe under the like we're filming, there's cameramen
Speaker 3: and I'm like, ah, I'm literally kicking his shins and
Speaker 3: he notices that, stop kicking.
Speaker 1: Oh he's that guy.
Speaker 3: Yes, he's like that guy. So I just give up
Speaker 3: on him. In the beginning, I was more anal. I
Speaker 3: would be like trying to control it all and be like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, like stop talking about all of this
Speaker 3: and like what are you doing? And like now I'm
Speaker 3: just like just roll with it. Joe, Like he's that guy,
Speaker 3: no matter what he says, no matter what he does,
Speaker 3: no matter how he acts, everybody loves him. It's it's
Speaker 3: just jump.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's very It's well, you're both very
Speaker 1: easy to love. I have to ask, what what is
Speaker 1: your fighting style? When you get into an argument? What
Speaker 1: is Joe's fighting style and what is yours? Do you disengage?
Speaker 1: Are you a let's raise my voice a little bit,
Speaker 1: do the hands get to move in? Like? What's your
Speaker 1: fighting style?
Speaker 3: So I think our fighting style, Joe and I that
Speaker 3: might be the problem with us. We have two totally
Speaker 3: different types of fighting style. So I am super impulsive,
Speaker 3: like I'm hot headed from the beginning, like very quickly,
Speaker 3: I freak like I don't even think straight. I just
Speaker 3: freak so like before I even have all the facts.
Speaker 3: And this is to a fault, I scream, I yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm like what, Like I freak like a savage. But
Speaker 3: I'm literally over it. Like once I get that all
Speaker 3: out and I hear all the answers, like I will
Speaker 3: drop it and go to dinner with you. Within the
Speaker 3: next hour or two, like I'm good, I just need
Speaker 3: to rage for like a second totally, and I'm impulsive.
Speaker 3: I'm impulsive. Jump Oh doesn't rage. He kind of sits back,
Speaker 3: he doesn't say much. Things will bother him, things will
Speaker 3: bother him. Then he'll explode like out of nowhere, and
Speaker 3: he'll hold the grudge. He won't talk to you for
Speaker 3: probably three to four days. So it's a problem because
Speaker 3: I want to rage on you. I want to go crazy,
Speaker 3: I want to like get it all out. And then
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, let's go to dinner like I'm good,
Speaker 3: and he won't speak to you for three days. So
Speaker 3: it's like we just have totally different styles of argument.
Speaker 3: We argue totally different.
Speaker 1: I think I'm more like you. I'm more like you,
Speaker 1: and I explode on people and then I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: feel better and I'm like why is everyone so destroyed?
Speaker 1: And they're like are you kidding? Like what you just said?
Speaker 1: And did.
Speaker 3: So I get it and I say nasty, I like
Speaker 3: get like impulsively crazy, and I'm like, I think we're
Speaker 3: just on our producers to be honest, like if they've
Speaker 3: called me to say something that I don't like but
Speaker 3: what like how and then they'll like call me to
Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, I was like aggressive before, Like I'm good,
Speaker 3: Like I understand why you're saying that to me. I
Speaker 3: just like I don't know. I I'm very impulsive. But
Speaker 3: then I chill. But then yeah, but that's an awesome thing.
Speaker 3: I'm a forgiver. I move on like I'm not a
Speaker 3: grudge holder. And I always say, like it's better to
Speaker 3: be that way because there's a reason, like you must.
Speaker 3: I feel like the happier person can let things go
Speaker 3: because it's like you don't want to ruin the night right.
Speaker 3: You don't want to when you fight with your boyfriend
Speaker 3: or you fight with your husband or your significant other.
Speaker 3: You don't want to ruin the whole weekend. Like let's
Speaker 3: just like get it out and move on. I don't
Speaker 3: like when you ruin the dinners that are coming up
Speaker 3: or like totally go to the movies later. I'm not
Speaker 3: going to hate each other for that, Like let's drop it.
Speaker 3: But Joe will ruin the whole weekend, Like the whole weekend.
Speaker 3: Weekend is fucked if this happens. So so that's how
Speaker 3: that goes.
Speaker 1: So you guys have been married. You said you were
Speaker 1: married for two years when you started the show.
Speaker 3: Five five years? Oh no, how could that be? Yes,
Speaker 3: five years? We were married for five years?
Speaker 1: Wow, and Antonio was no.
Speaker 3: It can't be because Antonio was four. So I think
Speaker 3: it was like we had her. We had her. I
Speaker 3: got pregnant two months after I got married, so we Yes.
Speaker 3: I want to say I was only married for like
Speaker 3: three and a half years.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I don't know why how long have you
Speaker 1: guys been together because I'm bad at math.
Speaker 3: Seventeen years?
Speaker 1: Oh my good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just hit seventeen years, so crazy, absolutely crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Antonia sixteen. We were in the fast lane though, like
Speaker 3: I met him at twenty four, was married by twenty five,
Speaker 3: had Antonia at twenty six.
Speaker 1: Oh damn, and then was.
Speaker 3: On reality TV. I was thirty or thirty one, so
Speaker 3: so yeah, I was only married for like four and
Speaker 3: a half years.
Speaker 1: Wow. Can I tell you if you were to tell
Speaker 1: that story but you were based in LA you guys
Speaker 1: would be divorced already.
Speaker 3: I listen, not for nothing, but start doing your homework.
Speaker 3: We are one of the longest standing reality couples on
Speaker 3: Bravo and in the universe.
Speaker 1: In the universe.
Speaker 3: We're one of them. Yes we are, we are. We've
Speaker 3: been Yes, we're going strong for seventy years. It is
Speaker 3: not easy to be married on reality TV, especially housewives,
Speaker 3: because they draw in so much into your marriage, your
Speaker 3: home life. It's not like I'm on a show about
Speaker 3: decorating where I leave my house every day and I go.
Speaker 3: You watch me decorate a window. You're watching me in
Speaker 3: my house with my kids, my children, my husband, my
Speaker 3: home arguments. So the hardest thing in the world is
Speaker 3: to be married on reality television. So I gotta say,
Speaker 3: Joe and I are doing a pretty good job.
Speaker 1: You're doing a damn good job.
Speaker 3: Thank you. We've had bumps in the road, don't let
Speaker 3: me get you wrong. Like through the pandemic, I feel
Speaker 3: like I got a little I was getting definitely busy,
Speaker 3: very I was always busy, but it went up to
Speaker 3: a different level. I would say maybe the year before
Speaker 3: that twenty twenty pandemic hit, and so I was out
Speaker 3: of the house a lot. The whole year of like
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, I would say, and I was super busy.
Speaker 3: And then as soon as the pandemic pandemic hit, which
Speaker 3: was really March of twenty twenty, right, and we all
Speaker 3: just like shut down in every state. Joe and I
Speaker 3: work so much that we're not used to you know,
Speaker 3: we don't talk. So I think he was getting a
Speaker 3: little annoyed with like all of my work. He felt
Speaker 3: like I was starting to be out of the house
Speaker 3: too much. I was starting to put work before him.
Speaker 3: I was, you know, becoming this mongol that didn't care
Speaker 3: about anything but like money and work and getting bigger fame.
Speaker 3: That was in his head, which is not true, but
Speaker 3: that was where his head was at at the time.
Speaker 3: So when the pandemic hit in twenty twenty and we
Speaker 3: had so much time to sit on a couch and
Speaker 3: actually look at each other because you couldn't leave the house, right,
Speaker 3: I think that's when things really came to head and
Speaker 3: we started to argue. And they also started the camera
Speaker 3: up within a month or two later. So there was
Speaker 3: that one season two seasons ago where you really saw
Speaker 3: us like at each other's throats, and it was it
Speaker 3: was real. It was because that was what was really
Speaker 3: going down in our house, and and that was it.
Speaker 3: I feel like we went through that bump and we were,
Speaker 3: you know, we come out of it, but it's not easy.
Speaker 3: It's not easy, really television. And it's for a guy
Speaker 3: who marries someone who wasn't in this world.
Speaker 1: Originally, I was just gonna say this right, And now.
Speaker 3: It's like, I didn't marry some woman who has to
Speaker 3: be in New York City every night and at events
Speaker 3: and on red carpets and business meetings and publicists, and
Speaker 3: he's like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's probably also one of those things where
Speaker 1: he marries this beautiful woman and you know, you guys
Speaker 1: go out in New Jersey or you travel, and it's
Speaker 1: just who's in that room that gets to sit and
Speaker 1: look and you know, at you guys as a couple,
Speaker 1: and how beautiful you are. And then all of the sudden,
Speaker 1: you know, you're getting all of this attention from people
Speaker 1: all over the world. Really, and I'm sure for any
Speaker 1: man that is like what is this, Like this is
Speaker 1: my beautiful wife? Who are all of these people coming
Speaker 1: in and acting like they know her?
Speaker 3: That would mess with me one percent. And especially a
Speaker 3: guy like Joe, who is that guy like this is mine?
Speaker 3: Like he's a claimer, you know what I mean, He's
Speaker 3: he has a little of that old school like Italian boy,
Speaker 3: like that's my wife type vibe. You know. So it
Speaker 3: might hit someone else different. For Joe, it hits hard,
Speaker 3: you know. So it took a minute, but I think
Speaker 3: we got there. I think we got there. He got that.
Speaker 3: Look at him now, he's running around on stages doing
Speaker 3: his comedy and he's loving that. So you know, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: he yelled at me, forgot he put it. He made
Speaker 3: himself a tour. He's all over the place. He's all
Speaker 3: over the place, like you know. So I'm like, all right,
Speaker 3: here we go.
Speaker 1: Like I love that he's doing that.
Speaker 3: At the core of though we have, there's like there's
Speaker 3: love there, do you know what I mean? So I
Speaker 3: always tell everyone who's looking to get married, who if
Speaker 3: you're looking for anyone new, whatever it is, make sure
Speaker 3: there's true love there. Because money does not carry you through.
Speaker 3: Looks will not carry you through either. There needs to
Speaker 3: be love and attraction, not necessarily looks, but something needs
Speaker 3: to be So you need to be so attracted and
Speaker 3: hang on their every word and miss them when you're
Speaker 3: not with them or else. Trust me, everyone out there,
Speaker 3: it just gets harder, it gets harder.
Speaker 1: I'm going to find all of that. I'm good so
Speaker 1: glad that I had you on the podcast, that you
Speaker 1: finally had time in your busy schedule. Where can people
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Speaker 1: can they find you? Look and find?
Speaker 3: So you can go to Envy buy mg dot com
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Speaker 3: on too. Thank you for having on with so much fun.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Melissa. We'll talk to you soon, babe.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right bye