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There is a federal 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: appeals court hearing that began at noon in San Francisco. 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: This is the Trump administration appeal of that Federal District 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: Court judge's decision to give the National Guard to Gavin 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: Newsom and said Trump had no right to send the 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: National Guard into Los Angeles. That's under the control of 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: the governor. The appeals court put a stay on that 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: and is three judge panel is hearing. The case started 14 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: at noon. I don't know if it's still going on, 15 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: but we have Royal Oaks coming on from ABC News 16 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: legal analysts. They're royal what's happening? 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 3: Hey, John, what's happening is very good news for Donald Trump. 18 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: The hearing did start pretty promptly at noon. The justices 19 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: announced it would run for about an hour, and it's running. 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 3: It's almost over now. It's running a little over time. 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 3: It's kind of a shocker, John, because I talked to you, 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: I think the other day about the fact that two 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: of the three judges picked totally random among the twenty 24 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 3: nine nine circuit judges were Trump appointees who came out 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: of the Federal Society, which is, you know, the theater 26 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: group that provides the conservative judges to Republican presidents. And 27 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 3: then one of the judges was a total enemy of Kavanaugh, 28 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 3: saying if you nominate Cavin, I'm put him on the court. 29 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 3: People are going to die. She's a service employees union organizer. 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: All three of them seem like they're going to go 31 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: for Trump here. Absolutely, I'm predicting the two Trump appointees, 32 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: and the key is that they all seem to be 33 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: in agreement the judges that you don't second guess the 34 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: president's discretion, judgment, an opinion when it comes to public 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: safety stuff. The newsom position is, well, now, wait a minute, 36 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: you know, it really wasn't that bad. These weren't really riots. 37 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: They were just protests and they got a little out 38 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: of hand. But Dougthy, the president didn't look into whether 39 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: the local cops or the federal cops of the Marines 40 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: could do it. He shouldn't have federalized the National Guard. 41 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 3: That was the essence of Newsom's position, and the two 42 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 3: Republican appointees, these federalist society guys, absolutely weren't buying it. 43 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: And even the liberal judge, he's only asked so far 44 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: like three questions, and the first two absolutely seemed to 45 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: support Trump's position, and the third one was sort of 46 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: a mixed bag. So I think the bottom line is 47 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: they're also John not worried about this businesses or you 48 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: didn't ask the governor, you needed the governor's help. There's 49 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: this weird vague clause in the statute that says the 50 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: president may take over the National Guard if he goes 51 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 3: through the governor. What does that mean? Does that mean 52 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: that governor has vito power you just have to send 53 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 3: him a telegram at Candy Graham. It's not clear. And 54 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: the judge made it even worse. The trial judge, who 55 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 3: was Charles Bryer Clinton a point to you who slammed 56 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 3: Trump last Thursday. He made it worse, but by giving 57 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 3: some vague comments about you know what this through language means. 58 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: So that's just a long winded way of saying that 59 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: it looks very much like Donald Trump's going to have 60 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: a victory. He may not hear about it today. It'll 61 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 3: probably take a day or two for them to kick 62 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: a written order out the door. But I think he's 63 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 3: going to win. 64 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: And we've talked about this a few times over the 65 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: course of riot week, and I wonder how much seeing 66 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: the riots last, you know, at least through Saturday, right, 67 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: and there was even some activity Sunday, but Saturday got 68 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: crazy for a while, and curfew they were forcing hundreds 69 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: thousands of people off the streets. It just seeing it 70 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: every day for seven days, the judges realized, like, man, 71 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: this this kind of situation could go very bad, very quickly, 72 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: and it's a good idea to have the National Guard 73 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: as a backup there just in case. I have to 74 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: think that without seeing that for seven nights would have 75 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: an effect on a reasonable judge. 76 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, You're you're raising a really good, real world point 77 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: that in a way is surprising him, because you know, judges, 78 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 3: theoretically you're supposed to kind of have blinders on it 79 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: and not be you know, reading the newspapers or listen 80 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 3: to talk radio. They're supposed to listen to the facts 81 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 3: and look at the law. The giant stack of law 82 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: books and apply the facts to the law and come 83 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: up with a decision. Then if it's unpopular, too bad. 84 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 3: But you know you're not supposed to be, you know, 85 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: having one eye of public opinion. But I think in 86 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: this case, how can you not because you know, judges 87 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 3: don't want to be responsible for being people dying in 88 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: the streets because you know that they stop the president 89 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 3: from sending in the National Guard at the end of 90 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 3: the day. I mean, if there was absolutely no legal 91 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: basis for Trump doing something, I think they would slam him. 92 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 3: But here, you know, as I said, even the liberal 93 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: judge on the nine Circuit courd of Appeal seems to 94 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 3: agree with the two conservatives that you don't really second 95 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: get the president. The law gives the president, if not unlimited, 96 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 3: really broad discretion to make public safety decisions. And couple 97 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: it with your point, there's rocks and bottles and fires, 98 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 3: and you know, the ice agents or you know, I 99 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: haven't broke bones broken when they're trying to go out 100 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: and do their job, So you need the federal troops 101 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: to protect them. It's looking like an easy call. Now 102 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: I'm not saying this is the end of the deal. Because, 103 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: as we've discussed, once the three judge panel rules, let's 104 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: say they rule tomorrow, Newsom has the right to say, hey, 105 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: I want the entire Ninth Circuit to weigh in on this, 106 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: and if a majority of the twenty nine Ninth Circuit 107 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 3: judges go along with that, then eleven will be selected 108 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: at random, one including the chief judge, not at random, 109 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 3: and that panel may then overrule this three judge panel. 110 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: And that panel of eleven is probably going to be 111 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: mostly Democrat president appointees. But if there are anything like 112 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 3: the one Democrat appointee today, they're going to be on 113 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: Trump's side. 114 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 2: So if she votes a side with Trump, that could 115 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: have a big effect on the rest of the panel. 116 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, because I have to feel that, you know, 117 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: judges talk about these cases. There's doesn't wrong with them, 118 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: you know, kibetzing, you know, in the court room, in 119 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 3: the courthouse. I have a feeling that her skepticism about 120 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 3: Newsom's position is probably a reflection of her informal consultations 121 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: with her fellow judges on the Ninth Circuit. And you know, 122 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 3: she's probably friendly with a bunch of the Republican appointees 123 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: as well as the Democrats. But you know, to the extent, 124 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: there's always a political component, and statistically a lot of 125 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 3: studies have shown that in high profile cases, politically motivated cases, 126 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: you can pretty much predict how people are going to 127 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: vote based on whether a Democrat or Republican president appointed them. 128 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: This is kind of one of the exceptions. I think, yeah, 129 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 3: this may signal if she goes along with the two Conservatives, 130 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 3: this may signal that it would be feudle for Newsom 131 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 3: to keep going. It's not that hard to keep going. 132 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: You file a piece of paper, and you know, you see, 133 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 3: if you get a hearing and Throwhill Mary pass. Then ultimately, 134 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: let's say the Ninth Circuit does revert to form and 135 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: rules against Trump. In spite of all this stuff, Trump's 136 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: free to go to the US Supreme Court, and based 137 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: on the strong arguments expressed by the judges and the 138 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: hearing today, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if the 139 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: US Supreme Court, even though they don't want to look 140 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 3: like Donald Trump's handmaid, and wouldn't be surprised if they 141 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: might step in and get involved and say, yeah, we're 142 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: re asserting the principle that the president is super broad 143 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: discretion when it comes to protecting public health and safety. 144 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: I wonder if the Trump team made a better case 145 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: this time around, because I remember you saying that they 146 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: were late with some of the paperwork with some of 147 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: their ammunition. They didn't file it in time. And I 148 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: wonder if they got their act together a little better today. 149 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: They absolutely did, and and you know, the papers being 150 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: a little bit late, you know, stuff happens. Listening to 151 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: the lawyer for Trump today, he was very sharp, and 152 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: of course he was reflecting the arguments that he's made 153 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 3: and all sorts of extensive briefs. The lawyer for Newsom 154 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: wasn't bad, but it was like he was given a 155 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: bad hand of cards and you can only make so 156 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: much of it. Is just not going to win the 157 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: pok or hand, no matter how BLib you are. So yeah, 158 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: I think at the end of the day, it was 159 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: sort of a doomed mission in retrospect that Newsom was 160 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: trying to second guess and say, oh, you know, you 161 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: didn't consult me, didn't have to. 162 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 2: I just always thought, this is just layman thinking right 163 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: that the National Guard was part of the federal government. 164 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: It was, you know, a little branch of the military right, 165 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: and that the states had control of it to deal 166 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: very quickly with crazy situations. But the idea that a president, 167 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: not just Trump, but any president wouldn't have some say 168 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 2: if necessary, it just never occurred to me. I thought, 169 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: ultimately it would all go back to the president, and 170 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 2: they're like blowing out to the States, you know, to 171 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: do whatever you have to do. 172 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean the National Guard. It's not like, 173 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: you know, the exact responsibility and source is something that 174 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: everybody gets taught in the civics in high school or college. 175 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 3: So it's it's sort of inside baseball, but you know, 176 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: it's funny. Newsom's argument kind of boils down to the 177 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 3: idea that, well, Trump, he went to deaf Con one 178 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: too fast. I always thought deaf Con five was bad, 179 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 3: but I'm told now deaf Con one is the worst. 180 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 3: And he said, you should have tried other means. You know, 181 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: you can have a few marines, but the local cops 182 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 3: are pretty good. The idea of trying to second guess 183 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: and getting a federal court to say, oh no, mister President, 184 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: you have no right to to federalize and take control 185 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 3: of the National Guard, even though you know rocks and 186 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: bottles are flying, people are getting injured and so on. 187 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: It just doesn't make a lot of sense. 188 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, go ahead. 189 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 3: I was just going to say, it's new some wanting 190 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: to be president and he loves the fact that he's 191 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 3: seen as the warrior over the last week or so. 192 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: So it's great for Newsom for his base to you know, 193 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: beat Gretchen Whitmer or Kamala Harris. But it wasn't very 194 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: good legally. 195 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I just don't understand waiting till a 196 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: riot has gone on for three days or five days, 197 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: then you send in the National Guard. We know, we 198 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: through seen in LA a number of times. It's like, yes, 199 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: send the National Guard in early. So the writers know 200 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: what they're potentially up against. That has to have some 201 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: kind of effect on the crazy people knowing that they, 202 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: you know, the real soldiers are around the corner. 203 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. Psychologically, you know, when you get a new sheriff 204 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: in town like Da Nathan Hockman, like President Trump, I 205 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: think they're going to do great pains to get the 206 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: message across that. You probably saw one of the Nathan 207 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: Hackman press conferences a few weeks ago. You know, don't 208 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: don't be confused, folks, if you break the law, you know, 209 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: if you steal, if you shoplift, we are going to 210 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: prosecute you. You're going to go to prison. And that's 211 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 3: so different from the message the politicians, you know, the 212 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 3: George Kascons and others have given the same. With Trump, 213 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 3: you know, he's send this message, you know, he goes 214 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: overboard and he says, you know, you know, you show 215 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 3: up at a riot, we'll shoot you. But he's sending 216 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 3: a message that this is a different administration, a different approach. 217 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: All right, very good, Royal Oaks, and we'll await the decision. 218 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: Thank you, all right from ABC News Legal analyst, Royal Oaks. 219 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: And we'll see if the decision comes this afternoon. But 220 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: Royal thought that at least two of the three and 221 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: maybe all three judges on the appeals court panel seemed 222 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: to be on Trump's side of the legal argument when 223 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 2: it came to Trump controlling the National Guard for the 224 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: LA riots. 225 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: When we come. 226 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: Back, there's a pull out on what the public thinks 227 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: on Trump sending the National Guard to Los Angeles. 228 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 229 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 4: six forty. 230 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 2: We've got the Moistline for Friday eight seven seven Moist 231 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: eighty six eight seven seven Moist eighty six or usually 232 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: talkback feature on the ie Heart radio app. And if 233 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: the three judge panel Court of Appeals is going to 234 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: issue a ruling today on whether Trump or Newsom can 235 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 2: have control of the National Guard right now in the 236 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: face of the la riots, we will. We will give 237 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: you that news immediately, Deborah feel free burst in no 238 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: matter what's going on here, I will. Because they just 239 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: had the hearing as of a few minutes ago, it 240 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: was nearing its final stage. Royal Oaks, the ABCS need 241 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: ABC News legal analyst. He watched the whole hearing. It 242 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: was it was online. I wasn't able to see it. 243 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: But in his opinion, the two Trump appointed judges on 244 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 2: the three judge panel seemed in their comments and questions 245 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 2: to be definitely on the Trump side, and he thought 246 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 2: even the Democratic appointed judge was quite sympathetic to the 247 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 2: Trumps sides argument. So we'll find out for sure, well 248 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: hopefully today at the moment, Trump still has control of 249 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 2: the National Guard, and what he says goes now. Harvard 250 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: Harris has a poll out and it looks like majority 251 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: support for Trump sending in the National Guard into Los 252 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 2: Angeles by a fifty six to forty four margin. Fifty 253 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 2: six forty four. This is a national poll, and it 254 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: seems that in general, the big majority of the public 255 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: likes what Trump is doing regarding immigration. Here's a straight 256 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: ahead question, do you support or oppose the administration's actions 257 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 2: to close the southern border? Sixty three percent of the 258 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: country says yes, we support him closing the border, and 259 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: fifty fifty six percent support the National Guard coming in. So, 260 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 2: despite what you see on television, because of all the 261 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: progressive reporters and news directors, producers, editors that spin just 262 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: about everything against Trump, I mean, Connoy and I were 263 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: talking about this the other day off the air. You 264 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: watch the news, local news here, got these local news stations. 265 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: Some of them are just abominable. 266 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: It's just one tier jerker report after another after another 267 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: after another, totally one sided, totally biased, totally slanted, all 268 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: emotional manipulation about feeling sorry for people who are getting 269 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: deported or people whose family members got deported. 270 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: And I mean it was just incredible. 271 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: These people never covered very much when illegal aliens committed 272 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: violent crimes, and we had victims of violent crimes. But 273 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: what gets the full skin that La times is like 274 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: this too. I mean, I don't know, are people really 275 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: saw incoherently after hearing and reading all these sob stories, 276 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: most of the public says, yeah, this is what should 277 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: be going on, that's the law. Nearly I mean, most 278 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: of the support comes from well, I mean only even 279 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: forty percent of Democrats, even forty percent of Democrats support 280 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: what Trump is doing at the border. Eighty seven percent 281 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: of the Republicans, sixty two percent of Independence. So you're 282 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: you're talking about a group of people who so progressive 283 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: they've lost their minds and they don't care if criminal 284 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: aliens are coming over the border. 285 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: Or you've got. 286 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: People who oppose something just because Trump supports It's there's 287 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: a lot. 288 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: Of that these days. 289 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: I would say it's probably less than ten percent of 290 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: the country wants illegal alien criminals coming over the border. 291 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: Is it even five percent? The rest of it is 292 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: because I'd like to I'd like to talk to these 293 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: people and say, well, why is it good to have 294 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: wide open borders with criminals running amok? Are you really 295 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: supporting that? Are you really in favor of that? Or 296 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: it's just your your limited brain power, your your brain 297 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 2: reflects that if if if Trump suggests it, then you're 298 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: against it. Uh, I mean it's I don't understand the thinking. 299 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: And nobody ever write everybody writes about how Trump is 300 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: is a king, is a dictator? Is this is that 301 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: nobody makes the case for a wide open border with 302 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: criminal aliens coming across. I've never seen anybody put that 303 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: into words in a coherent argument. You look at the 304 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: policies they support, but the policies are always about criticizing Trump, 305 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: the policies that the writing is not about supporting. 306 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: The progressive's policies here, because how would you write that, 307 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: How would you write that column? 308 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: How would you write that story to let in gang 309 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 2: members from MS thirteen or trendy Iagua to rape and 310 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: kill young girls. What I hear is is like, well, 311 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 2: it's not that many. That's Terry picking stories. It's like no, no, no, 312 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: don't change the subject. Don't tell me not that many. 313 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the actual actions. If you could do 314 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 2: something to stop even one young girl from getting raped 315 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 2: and murdered by an illegal alien criminal, would you do it? 316 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: Who's going to say no? 317 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: And the best way to limit that kind of carnage 318 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: is to shut the border down entirely. Right, Is there 319 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: a better way than that? No, not that I'm aware of, 320 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 2: But if you have one, please tell us. And that's 321 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: where you know. It's just the reflex Trump suggests it. 322 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: Therefore I'm against it, no matter how rational that is. 323 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: And you just give the polster your silly answer and 324 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 2: you don't suffer any any penalty for that. Eighty eighty 325 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: percent of the public support a plan to deport illegal 326 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: aliens who have committed crimes. Eighty percent. Now, who's the 327 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 2: twenty percent against it? The families, the relatives of the criminals. 328 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: There's a lot of there's a lot of polling that 329 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: Harvard Harris did. We're going to talk at two o'clock 330 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 2: with the guy who actually he wrote that. He wrote 331 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 2: the story for Center, the Center for Immigration Studies on 332 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 2: the poll and he also had a separate story that 333 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,479 Speaker 2: got published yesterday about the seven hundred and fifty thousand 334 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 2: to one million illegal immigrants who have self deported under Trump. 335 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 2: And his name is Art Arthur, Center for Immigration Studies, 336 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: and he's going to come on with us at two 337 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: o'clock when we come back that dopey clown, the sitting 338 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 2: Senator of California, although he was laying face down after 339 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 2: Christy Noolman's security got through with him, Alex Padea, he 340 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: went on the floor of the Senate. Usually, when you 341 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 2: do an embarrassing flop like Padilla did, you pretend it 342 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: never happened and you never raised the issue again. Instead, 343 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: he went to the Senate floor and gave a long 344 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 2: emotional speech about how he suffered. 345 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: This is all he's ever gonna be known for. 346 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 347 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 4: six forty. 348 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: We're on every day from one until four o'clock. 349 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: After four o'clock, John Cobelt's show on demand on the 350 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 2: iHeart app. 351 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: That's when you listen to what you miss. 352 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: We're gonna play you some clips of Alex Padilla, the 353 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: buffoon who got thrown to the ground by Christy noms 354 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 2: security after he barged in on Nomes' press conference question 355 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: and answer and started shouting. Didn't identify himself, wasn't even 356 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: dressed properly. You know, if you're sitting, if you're a 357 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 2: sitting senator, you at least ought to have a jacket 358 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 2: and tie on. But before I get there, I had 359 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: mentioned at the end of the last segment that there's 360 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: a new poll out by Harvard Harris which had support 361 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: for Trump closing the border sixty three percent and also 362 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: supported Trump sending the National Guard to LA fifty six 363 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 2: to forty four. 364 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: And then I noticed that they. 365 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: Did a national poll of favorability for various big names, 366 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: and they put Gavin Newsoman in the poll. Do you 367 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: know what his national favorability rating is twenty nine percent. 368 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 2: That's higher than I thought. His unfavorable rating is thirty 369 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: six and thirty five percent of the public either has 370 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: no opinion or never heard of them. Yeah, there's a 371 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: lot of fascinating stuff here. Karen Bass's national approval rating 372 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: is seventeen percent. So the rest of the country looks 373 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: at these two as being failures idiots. They also had 374 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: a pull. And then this is why I always got 375 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 2: to stress this. When you see protesters, they represent a 376 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 2: tiny slice of the public. The public is not rebelling. 377 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: The public is sitting home largely. They're eating and drinking 378 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: with their families on a Sunday. They're watching sports on television. 379 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 2: They are not standing in the heat for eight hours 380 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 2: chanting stupid rhymes. That is not the public. Harvard Harris 381 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 2: did a favorability rating. You know what number one is 382 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 2: in this country? The military seventy six percent, police sixty 383 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: four percent. So who do you think the public can 384 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: aside with when there's a riot in Los Angeles? It's 385 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: going to be the police and the National Guard. That's 386 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: who they're going to side with. So military seventy six, 387 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: police sixty four. Gavin Newsom twenty nine, Karen Bass seventeen. 388 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: That is not a launching pad to run for national office, 389 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: to come out against the police and the National Guard. 390 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 2: Now what protest movement? The first you know, for the 391 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: last year and a half has overwhelmed most other protest movements. 392 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: It's been the Palestinians right supporting Hamas. Do you know 393 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: what the favorability rating for Hamas is in this country? 394 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: Nine percent. That's what's showing up in the streets. That's 395 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: what's showing up at the universe of these It's not 396 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 2: normal people, it's this crazy progressive fringe nine percent. You know, 397 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: Bass only has six more points approval rating than Vladimir Putin. 398 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: Let me get to Padilla here, Alex Padilla if you 399 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 2: haven't heard, he's the idiot who stormed the Homeland Security 400 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 2: Secretary's press conference, Christy Noome here in Los Angeles. He 401 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: storms in while she's speaking doing a question and answer 402 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 2: with reporters, and he starts shouting and he was grabbed. 403 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: He pushed back, then he got dragged out and thrown 404 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: to the ground and handcuffed. Didn't identify himself until after 405 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 2: he was shouting, and then he was not wearing his 406 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 2: Senate pin or any other id He wasn't dressed like 407 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: a senator. He looked like a guy who jumped off 408 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: the ups truck and maybe he was gonna blow. 409 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: The room up. 410 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 2: That's the way he was acting, and that's how he 411 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 2: was treated. So he goes on the Senate floor and 412 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 2: instead of pretending this never happened or apologizing, we're gonna 413 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: play you. Let's start with cut three, because he gets 414 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: really emotional about his experience getting taken down by the 415 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: federal agents. 416 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: You've seen the video. 417 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 5: I was pushed and pulled, struggled to. 418 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: Maintain my balance. 419 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 5: I was forced to the ground, first on my knees. 420 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: And then flat on my chest. This is good and 421 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: it's I was handcuffed. 422 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 5: And marched down a hallway, repeatedly asking why am I 423 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 5: being detained? Not once did they tell me why? 424 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: You didn't know? I pray you never have a moment likeness. 425 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: That's right, he had said he wasn't. But I will 426 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: tell you. 427 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 5: In that moment, a lot of questions came to my mind. 428 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: First of all, where are they taking me? Because I 429 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not just being escorted out of the building. Well, 430 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: he's like, DON'TO isn't he? Am I being arrested? 431 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 5: Here? 432 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: Am I? 433 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 5: And what will a city already on edge from being 434 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 5: militarized think when they see their United States senator being 435 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 5: handcuffed just for trying to ask a question? 436 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: What did he go bag? Their senator? I don't know 437 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: what will our boys think? Wait, way, back that up? 438 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 1: Back that up? They And what will my wife think? 439 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: I know what will our boys think? I know that too. 440 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 5: And I also remember asking myself, if this aggressive escalation 441 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 5: is the result of someone speaking up against the abuses 442 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 5: and overreach of the Trump administration, was it really worth it? 443 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 5: The colleagues, how many Americans in our nation's history have marched, 444 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 5: how protested, oh have shed blood? Even lost their lives 445 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 5: to protect our rights. How many Americans have served in 446 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 5: wars overseas to protect our freedoms? 447 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: Here, that's you shedding blood and fighting. 448 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 5: And how many Americans in the year twenty twenty five 449 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 5: see a vindictive president on a tour of retribution, unrestrained 450 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 5: by the majority of this separate and coequal branch of government, 451 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 5: and wonder if it's worth it to stand up or 452 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 5: to speak out A the United States Center becomes too 453 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 5: afraid to speak up, how can we expect any other 454 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 5: American to do the same, Colleagues, you know me. I 455 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 5: can't think of a person who would describe. 456 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: Me as a flamethrower. 457 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 5: I try to be considerate to every member of this body, 458 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 5: regardless of our political differences. 459 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: My God, what a drama. 460 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 2: Queen, good lord, twenty minutes of that, twenty minutes of that, 461 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: you listen to that whole thing? 462 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: I did? Oh, bless you, thank you. 463 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 2: Well you picked the three good minutes there we got, 464 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: we got some more stuff. What was he like auditioning 465 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 2: for an opera or something? I mean, what, God? 466 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: And he has no idea why it happened? Really, he 467 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: has no idea. 468 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: I ask you imagine that you go over to an 469 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: FBI building and the director of Homeland Security, a woman 470 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: is inside the building. There's riding that's been going on 471 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: for days in LA. She's talking to the press. You 472 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: go in there and start shouting, and then you start 473 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: pushing and shoving with security. What do you think is 474 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: going to happen to you? What should happen to you? 475 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 6: John, I'm telling you so many people, so many people 476 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 6: thought that what did that? 477 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: He's a hero now? 478 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 6: And people thought that secret service that they were out 479 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 6: of control. And there are so many people that so 480 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 6: many people in Los Angeles Y support Padilla? 481 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: Is that right? Yes? 482 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 2: So they don't see he's a clown. No, because he was, 483 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 2: Because he was he defies Trump. Therefore he's a hero. 484 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: That he spoke out, he spoke out. What was his question? 485 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: By the way, we never got to the to the 486 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: big question that was worth being dragged out into the 487 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: hallway over. 488 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI Am sixty. 489 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,479 Speaker 2: We are on every day from one until four o'clock 490 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: and you can follow us on social media. John Cobelt Radio. 491 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: I had to John Cobelt Radios. We had towards thirty 492 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: thousand followers coming up after Debor's news at two o'clock. 493 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: Almost a million illegal aliens have self deported since Trump 494 00:29:59,240 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: took over. 495 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: A little reported. 496 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: Major achievement is a lot of people packing up and 497 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 2: leaving on their own. And we're going to talk with 498 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,719 Speaker 2: Art Arthur from the Center Firm Immigration Studies about how 499 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 2: even how do you even figure that out? How do 500 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: you figure out that a million people? I mean it's 501 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: an estimate, but how do you even know that you're 502 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: near an accurate number? 503 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: That app that CBP APP Well, that would be a 504 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: good start. 505 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, if people are doing it formally, well, yeah, because 506 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: they get the thousand dollars for Yeah, So we'll talk 507 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 2: to Art Arthur and we'll talk to him about that. 508 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: That poll, and you haven't heard Gavin Newsom has a 509 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: twenty nine percent national approval rating. Twenty nine percent. That 510 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: is a launching pad for the US presidency if Ivor 511 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: saw one. All right, Well, continue now with Alex Padia. 512 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: In the last segment, we played Padilla crying. He actually 513 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: went on the Senate for Floord started crying, recounting how 514 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: he got thrown the floor by Christy Noms security agents. 515 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: He was that kid, right. 516 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: He had he never gotten beaten up on the playground. Well, 517 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: by the way, has he been in the military. I 518 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: don't know his background at all. He is such an 519 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: anonymous figure as I don't think the soldiers are coming 520 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 2: back from more going. Oh, they shout at be you're 521 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 2: the one who busted in. Yeah, they threw it to 522 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: the floor. What a baby, What an embarrassment. That's your judgment. 523 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: H in California. Huh, he's the senator gets roughed up 524 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 2: a little after he burst in on Christy Nome and 525 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 2: now he's sobbing. 526 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: Good lord. 527 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 2: Here's another cut of his speech about Trump testing his power. 528 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: Touch six. 529 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 5: Donald Trump is continuing to test the boundaries of his power, 530 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 5: and he's surrounded himself with yes men and underqualified attack dogs, 531 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 5: from the DHS secretary to the FBI director to the 532 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 5: Secretary of Defense, who will rubber staff every anti democratic 533 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 5: step he takes. This administration's officials is what and maybe 534 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 5: not all, but many Republicans in Congress may choose not 535 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 5: to do their job, but they cannot stop me from 536 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 5: doing mine. 537 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: And I refuse to let. 538 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 5: Immigrants be political poems. On his path towards fascism, fatchism, 539 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 5: enforcing a democratic law. 540 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: This is fascinating. Padia is clearly insane. He knows a 541 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 2: kind of weak sounding Uh. If you have a law 542 00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: passed by the majority of the Senate and the House, 543 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: and you have a majority elect a specific president, and 544 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: that says the president has complete authority over who gets deported. 545 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: So it was a democratically decided issue. We selected the 546 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 2: House members, we selected the Senate members, we selected the president. 547 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 2: And this goes back many decades. We've had these laws, 548 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: and I believe in the Constitution it gives Trump this authority. 549 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: Biden had the authority too, so did Obama. 550 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: Obama used his authority to deport millions of illegal immigrants. 551 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 2: Biden used his authority to let in millions of illegal immigrants. 552 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: Trump is more aligned with Obama. 553 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: In fact, Trump has a long way to go to 554 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 2: reach Obama's numbers. So I don't see how any of 555 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: this is fascism. We've had several I mean, Bush was 556 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: a disaster on immigration. He's the one who started his 557 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: latest way with his amnesty idea, going back to I 558 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: think two thousand and four, he was offering amnesty to 559 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 2: all the illegal aliens and that led to a huge surge. 560 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 2: We played you clips of Bill Clinton, who was strongly 561 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: against illegal immigration, strongly for deportation, Hillary Clinton when she 562 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 2: ran as far back as two thousand and eight, and 563 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 2: then Obama, they were very definitive. So Trump actually follows 564 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 2: through on what Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and Obama talked about, 565 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: and Trump's a fascist over it. He actually does something 566 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 2: similar to what Obama did in terms of deportation numbers. 567 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: Padilla is a stooge. It just is a stooge. There's 568 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 2: nothing you can do. Tell me, do you think that's 569 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 2: even ninety IQ points inside that head? Be honest, you 570 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 2: think that even hits ninety IQ points? When we come 571 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 2: back Art Arthur from the Center for Immigration Studies, he 572 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 2: had a story that was in the New York Post. 573 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: Estimate is close to a million people may have already 574 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 2: self deported. Deborah Mark live in the CAFI twenty four 575 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 2: our newsroom. 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