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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily.

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Speaker 2: We're the best slate of the NFL season, delivered in

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Speaker 2: Week fourteen. I'm here in the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio.

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Speaker 2: My name is Greg Rosenthal, and I'm with my caffeinated

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Speaker 2: friend Patrick Claybond in my other I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you're caffeinated.

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Speaker 1: Or not, friend, Jordan rod Rieg. It happened.

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Speaker 2: We came into this week on the schedule. Five monster

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Speaker 2: games on the slate for Division lead, playoff lead, another

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Speaker 2: game that was Joe Burrow and Josh Allen, and we're

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Speaker 2: gonna hit all those games in this very recap and

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Speaker 2: it's gonna lead to a great.

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Speaker 3: Money I am caffeinated also, and we're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna We're just gonna get right to it today. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to know it. I honestly don't want to

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Speaker 1: mess around.

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Speaker 2: We'll be wrapping up the show with the big Sunday

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Speaker 2: night game Texans Chiefs. But I think there's only one

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Speaker 2: place we can start today, and that is at lambeau Field.

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Speaker 4: They get motioned to the tight end of the right

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Speaker 4: take the switch, but you left Williams looking to floats

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Speaker 4: the end on the tenor secon sceptception. Ala and in

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Speaker 4: oception by Kashawan Nexon Panzer, is your dagger been a

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Speaker 4: Lambeau leaf to the south end zone? Stands twenty two

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Speaker 4: seconds ago? Then the Packers hung on.

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Speaker 2: Oh they wanted it, and they got it. A late

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Speaker 2: takeaway by Keishawn Nixon. So many big defensive plays this year.

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Speaker 2: By that very cornerback stopped a Bears drive. Packers hold

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Speaker 2: on twenty eight to twenty one. Caleb Williams has a

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Speaker 2: play call which they ran very similar to the Bears

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Speaker 2: game just a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: They hit that for a touchdown. He's late on the throw.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't work out in this game, and the Packers

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Speaker 2: defense holds on and takes over first place of the

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Speaker 5: And it's Keishaw Nixon who was benched for like a

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Speaker 5: the brunt end of a Matt lafleur rage burst because

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Speaker 5: of an unnecessary roughness penalty. This game was nuts because

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Speaker 5: the Bears had a chance to come down the field

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Speaker 5: and at least you're thinking about tying it, but it's

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Speaker 5: Ben Johnson and he had already gone for a couple

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Speaker 5: of like sort of fu plays earlier in the game,

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Speaker 5: including the most demoralizing third and long screen you'll ever see,

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Speaker 5: and you had to think Ben Johnson's going for two

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Speaker 5: if they score here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the strategy at the end of the game, we

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Speaker 2: can start there was interesting because Ben Johnson essentially chose

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Speaker 2: to run the clock on himself before that play, and

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Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur was okay with it. And I think it

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Speaker 2: could have cost the Bears because if they had gotten

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Speaker 2: first down on that play, then they wouldn't have had

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Speaker 2: as many plays to try to go win the game.

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Speaker 2: But maybe he knew they were going for the win

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Speaker 2: that whole time. Everything is setting up for that play call.

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Speaker 2: That's dangerous. Then again, I think he made a great

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you can throw the ball quicker. And also it's

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Speaker 6: a tough play, but we've seen Caleb make these types

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Speaker 6: everybody crashed in on Caleb, where he could flip that

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Speaker 6: get the first down. But you need the touchdown at

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Speaker 6: that point because you're thinking, and I'm sure because we

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Speaker 6: were having a discussion in the newsroom. Do you get

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Speaker 6: the touchdown late, try to get the two point conversion,

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Speaker 6: But all that goes away when you start the play

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Speaker 6: sequence with a minute and thirty one seconds and then

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Speaker 6: a gotta have it situation on fourth down with under

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Speaker 7: It was so different just a few minutes before that.

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Speaker 2: It's too bad because I think Caleb Williams played a

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Speaker 2: really good second half. Obviously, their offense was running the

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Speaker 2: getting down inside the red zone at the end. But

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Speaker 2: And that's the push and poll with Caleb Williams, who

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Speaker 2: I think is playing well. He has a lot of

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Speaker 2: holy hell, that's amazing plays, But you look at his

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Speaker 2: that was maybe the difference between him and Jordan Love.

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Speaker 1: On a day where Jordan Love looked like a veteran.

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Speaker 5: Jordan Love looked awesome, and he's got a number one receiver. Guys,

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Speaker 5: Christian Watson had two touchdowns in this game. I want

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Speaker 5: us to listen to the first one because it just

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Speaker 5: was a great moment, just the daintiest of placement. Snowflake

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Speaker 5: as lightly as a snowflake falling.

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Speaker 8: Here's here's the snap blitz on they pick it up,

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Speaker 4: Watson touchdown, praying by Packers. Christian Watson took it away,

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Speaker 4: say Keevin byrd. Come up, Packers strike first twenty three

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Speaker 5: I love that play so much, not only because it

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Speaker 5: gave Packers fans the Lambeau Leap that they just jonesing

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Speaker 3: And what a cool environment too.

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Speaker 5: It didn't quite snow flurry it did in the morning earlier,

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Speaker 5: of the game according to the broadcast. And that's Christian Watson.

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Speaker 5: That was his fourth touchdown in four games. He went

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Speaker 5: on to score a fifth touchdown in the same game

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Speaker 5: off a really pretty little man beater that Matt Lafleur

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Speaker 5: we like were used to him playing at his very

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Speaker 5: pressuring him. And first of all, don't don't blitz Jordan Love.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna do great things. He's got great pressure readers,

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Speaker 5: blitz him. And the Bears backed off on that second.

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Speaker 3: Across across the stack and across the field.

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Speaker 5: And then the Packers adjusted again to get Christian Watson

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Speaker 5: these opportunities, and you know, it was a really really

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Speaker 5: well called game from both sides. But I give Matt

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Speaker 5: Lafleur the edge in this one because they went run

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Speaker 6: And so Dennis Allen, whose defense has looked really good

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, now, leave ten alone.

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Speaker 2: It comes down to players, though, and the Bears just

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Speaker 2: don't have a pass rush. They are hurt either way,

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Speaker 2: like on the second touchdown, which to me is just

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Speaker 2: the perfect Jordan Love throw because no one can throw

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Speaker 2: tries to make up for it. Once again, I think

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady's getting a little better. He was pointing that out,

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Speaker 2: and I just love how these two teams are so different,

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Speaker 2: and we saw in tough conditions that this style of

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Speaker 2: you got Jordan Love throwing twelve point one yards average

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Speaker 2: a Bears team, which has a sixty percent success rate

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Speaker 2: which runs the ball down. The Packers throat really took

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Speaker 5: Loved it, and I wonder if it almost flips the

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Speaker 3: The Bears often of line. I don't think we have

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Speaker 5: Flowers for the way that they can just choose to

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Speaker 5: got a little mean streak in you. What are you

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Speaker 5: most mean spirited bullying screen that just it and it

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Speaker 5: your throats. He cuts on a like blade of grass,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was just these teams.

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Speaker 2: I love this game. I know you can't tell you

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Speaker 2: mentioned the physicality. You know, if if you're watching us

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Speaker 2: There's a play where Manung guy and Edger and Cooper collide.

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Speaker 2: Just a massive hit from Cooper in the second quarter

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Speaker 2: Manung guys like like a people to help. It is

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Speaker 2: and hitten. This is some real menly men football. And

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Speaker 2: we ended with yea, we ended with like a very

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Speaker 2: a perfect combination. Matt Lefflair would just run rain.

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Speaker 3: It was the range of society, you know it was.

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Speaker 2: It was Matt Lafleair just doing a drive by on

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Speaker 2: that handshake. I love it because we we should have

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Speaker 2: set it up during the week.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson had those quotes that he can't wait to

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Speaker 2: he's really enjoyed over the years beating Matt Leaflair. Choice, Well,

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Speaker 2: he's not gonna beat him twice this year, Patrick and

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Speaker 2: they tried harder.

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Speaker 6: Mat Lafleur remembered and that's why he ran fifty seven

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Speaker 6: yards across the field to give a quick handshake that

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Speaker 6: he would love talking about after the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to say what Laflair said. He said,

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Speaker 2: he said it was a quick handshake and we'll see

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Speaker 2: them again in two weeks. I think there are no

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Speaker 2: good losses and we do got to move on. But

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Speaker 2: I think the Bears coming back in this game, their

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Speaker 2: these two teams look pretty even to me, it's not

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Speaker 2: a good loss, but they keep passing tests and to me,

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Speaker 2: I don't think any differently. About the Bears, even though

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Speaker 2: they fell from the one seed to the seventh seed.

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Speaker 7: Of course criticize Caleb on that final play.

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Speaker 6: The Packers were all over that play call because it

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he should have thrown it fast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we learned a few things just about you know,

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Speaker 2: to see. Four catches thirty one yards. Bo Melton played

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Speaker 1: The person to nel usage.

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Speaker 2: And yes, only one of these teams has Michael Parsons

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Speaker 3: Monster holes against him.

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Speaker 5: By the way, HST fans, don't freak out, geez that

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, my goodness, guys, what are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Take it down.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we got.

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Speaker 6: We got to go back a few weeks to week

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Speaker 1: Of They got three over twenty in this game.

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Speaker 6: That's just well right there, defense that struggled to make

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Speaker 6: They're in twelve personnel. Lamar's holding the ball. Nobody's at

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Speaker 6: But it's difficult to look away from the game because clearly,

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Speaker 7: But there are a couple of key ones in this

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Speaker 2: So there was an unnecessary roughness call on a Steelers

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Speaker 2: that was just a curious call it happened. Also, there's

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Speaker 2: offense did a good jock similar to how the end

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Speaker 1: Mistakes are going to happen. I do not understand them

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it looks too close to make an actual decision

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Speaker 1: I guess. Oh wow, she did it.

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Speaker 7: She loved it.

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Speaker 2: She said it in the news German.

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Speaker 7: She said it again because it's a great line.

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Speaker 1: I think that was the right call.

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Speaker 7: Give you a possion of the ends on the place.

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Speaker 1: I think that was the right call.

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Speaker 2: A lot is going on here, and yet I don't

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Speaker 2: But it was twenty seven points on only six drives.

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Speaker 6: Touch Yeah, so you adding things like that, the nasty

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Speaker 6: But there's aspects of this that we're also a donation.

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Speaker 2: And that's where I think about that miss touchdown call

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Speaker 2: special and he didn't. Particularly, I think he's looked much

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Speaker 2: better in terms of his legs the last couple of games.

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Speaker 2: For what it's worth you, he runs for forty three

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Speaker 2: yards in this game, including a touchdown. He looks healthier,

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Speaker 2: but like, I don't know, you can't run the ball

445
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Speaker 2: and you're letting Aaron Rodgers make plays all over you.

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Speaker 1: Like, I don't feel that bad.

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Speaker 5: This was the ultimate greg and Patrick game because not

448
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Speaker 5: only did Aaron Rodgers play probably one of the best,

449
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Speaker 5: if not his best game of the entire season, but

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Speaker 5: also Jalen Warren got in the end zone. So everybody loses.

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Speaker 1: I lost. I mean, I was rooting for the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: I'm not lying about it.

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Speaker 6: And I get the Jalen Warren thing is a joke

454
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Speaker 6: or another Gregor whur. I enjoy Aaron Rodgers discount double

455
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Speaker 6: checking and celebrating and being all salty in the.

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Speaker 1: Post But I do, yeah, I have to, like, I

457
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Speaker 1: have to give I have to give credit where it's due.

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Speaker 7: Indeed, which he.

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Speaker 3: Did have some postgame salt, I think, right, Aaron Rodgers did.

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Speaker 1: Like in terms of his hair color or what are

461
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Speaker 1: you talking about?

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Speaker 5: In terms of his attitude? I thought, didn't he don't?

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Speaker 5: We have some sound of him talking talking a little

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Speaker 5: smack in the post game.

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Speaker 7: I'm sure, I'm sure it's it's out there.

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Speaker 1: We got my Tomlin sound. Let's listen to that.

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Speaker 11: You know, we knew what was on the line today,

468
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Speaker 11: and that's why you go do business with a guy

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Speaker 11: like Aaron for thick days like today. He's been there,

470
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Speaker 11: done that guy. But beyond the experienced component of it,

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Speaker 11: he relishes it. You can just tell.

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Speaker 5: And that's the benefit of having a guy like ar

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Speaker 5: You know, Chris Pabona is doing a great job filling

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Speaker 5: in for the great Eric Roberts behind the glass.

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Speaker 3: That one's on me. I take on that one. I

476
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Speaker 3: read the rundown wrong. Also, I'm I'm also having a.

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Speaker 2: Thing he sometimes sometimes Chip Kelly calls the wrong play

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Speaker 2: in the huddle.

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Speaker 1: You got to be able to figure it out on

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Speaker 1: the field.

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Speaker 2: That's what matters. That's what Chris Babona did right there.

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Speaker 2: And I was talking about giving credit, by the way,

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Speaker 2: in terms of red zone that's Dan Pezuda, who's a

484
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Speaker 2: great follow on on Blue Sky, by the way, who

485
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Speaker 2: works for their FTN, gave me that stat in terms

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Speaker 2: of zero percent success right in the red zones. I

487
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Speaker 2: wanted to give him credit, and I wanted to give

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Speaker 2: credit to everything that happened in Buffalo. I think we

489
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Speaker 2: got the game of the day Bills and Bengals, so

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Speaker 2: good that we got to bring Nick Chuck into this

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Speaker 2: show early. But first let's hear from Chris Brown and

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Speaker 2: Eric Wood on w R.

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Speaker 12: Brown alone setback receiver to each side and it's intercepted.

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Speaker 4: Jumping over the air is Bedford gets away from Burrel

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Speaker 4: thirty twenty ten five dr AFC Defensive Player.

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Speaker 1: Of the Week test.

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Speaker 13: Jutted again Christian Bedford with a go ahead touchdown.

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Speaker 2: A great call there by Chris Brown put that in

499
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Speaker 2: the play cause of the year, giving you more work.

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Speaker 2: But bona somewhere someone in the office of the Players

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Speaker 2: of the Week office.

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Speaker 1: Is like, yes, big pop in a big spot. Someone

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Speaker 1: finally cares about our awards.

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Speaker 7: We got a dedicated room for it.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's just one guy's I sat really near him.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe that's a full time.

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Speaker 2: Gig, especially in today's day and age, Like you get

508
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Speaker 2: a pension as a scud missile.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. Thirty ninth to thirty four shook.

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised we led with a defensive play, because man,

511
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Speaker 2: this was a lot of great quarterback play, a lot

512
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Speaker 2: of great offense.

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Speaker 1: What stood out to you most in this courageous Bills victory.

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Speaker 12: Well, yeah, we started with a defensive play because that

515
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Speaker 12: was the moment when I realized, and I think everybody

516
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Speaker 12: in Himark Stadium realized, oh my god, the Bills actually

517
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Speaker 12: can win this game. Because for a good portion of

518
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Speaker 12: this contest, Joe Burrow and the Bengals had a step

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Speaker 12: and a half on the Bills. They had a twenty

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Speaker 12: eight to eighteen lead in the fourth quarter, They had

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Speaker 12: three straight touchdown drives to start this game. They could

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Speaker 12: not be stopped, and it was snowing pretty heavily for

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Speaker 12: most of this game didn't affect him at all. Josh

524
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Speaker 12: Allen also having a pretty good game. It was a

525
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Speaker 12: great example of two quarterbacks overcoming inclement weather to find success.

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Speaker 14: But the Bengals, they were better until that moment.

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Speaker 12: Until that moment and the moment right before it, when

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Speaker 12: Josh Allen faces a zero blitz, finds a running lane

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Speaker 12: and takes off through one of the widest spaces of

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Speaker 12: open field you're going to find in an NFL field

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Speaker 12: for a forty yard touchdown.

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Speaker 14: Just rapid fashion.

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Speaker 12: The Bills went from being like, oh god, there's like

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Speaker 12: eight minutes left in the fourth quarter, we're really going

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Speaker 12: to lose this game to the Bengals. The Bengals who

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Speaker 12: are so desperate they need every win possible to keep

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Speaker 12: their dwindling playoff hopes alive. That we thought weren't even

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Speaker 12: going to be a possibility before Joe Burrow came back

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Speaker 12: and instead, in a quick, just transition of a couple

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Speaker 12: of plays, the Bills are on top and they ride

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Speaker 12: that wave all the way to victory. It was one

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Speaker 12: of those games that felt like a playoff game between

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Speaker 12: a team that was eight and four versus a team

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Speaker 12: that was four and eight.

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Speaker 14: It was that much fun.

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Speaker 2: Well, it looked like a playoff game, the playoff game

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Speaker 2: they played a couple of years ago when the Bengals

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Speaker 2: went in there and ran all over them that they've

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Speaker 2: been playing that game on NFL Network all weekend long.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the Josh Allen rushing touchdown. Let's hear it.

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Speaker 1: Here's the staff back to pass blitz going.

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Speaker 8: Up the market, thirty down.

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Speaker 1: To the twenty.

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Speaker 8: Allan looking for the zone and he's.

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Speaker 14: In for a forty yard touchdown.

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Speaker 8: Rip the piece has been released. My goodness, what a

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Speaker 8: touchdown run by Allen.

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Speaker 2: Oh Man back to being one of the most successful

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Speaker 2: plays in football, the Josh Allen run. And I just

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Speaker 2: think considering where they were at with the injuries that

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Speaker 2: their defense had down a couple scores in this game,

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Speaker 2: to respond the way they did and set up such

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Speaker 2: a big game next week in New England is just

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Speaker 2: It's a big in terms of the story of this

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Speaker 2: season and the story of the AFC. It also all

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Speaker 2: but eliminates the Bengals from having a little hope.

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Speaker 5: I think it's good when you see a defense like

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Speaker 5: this that's been through what they've been through, and certainly

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Speaker 5: I have not been shy of criticizing them on that

570
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Speaker 5: and today absolutely porous on third down and that was

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Speaker 5: a huge reason why the Bengals were able to stay

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Speaker 5: in the game and to make the Bills play from

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Speaker 5: behind through much of this game. But when your defense

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Speaker 5: responds to something insane that your quarterback does but not

575
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Speaker 5: just doesn't just do that once, but does it time

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Speaker 5: and time again, makes a couple of pivotal takeaway plays

577
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Speaker 5: splash plays at the end of the game when it matters,

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Speaker 5: After Josh Allen, after the button has been pushed right,

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Speaker 5: you guys are always talking about when when does Joe

580
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Speaker 5: Brady up in the box, just press press the release,

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Speaker 5: press yes, and then the defense showed up in a

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Speaker 5: big spot and return the fever. That's better complimentary football

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Speaker 5: than we've seen from the.

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Speaker 3: Bills in a while.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the biggest button moment here was it was fourteen

586
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Speaker 6: to three and the Bills had a goal to go.

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Speaker 6: Situation gets to fourth down and they run. Of course,

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Speaker 6: it's Joe Brady. It's a mesh alteration and there's nobody

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Speaker 6: open at the top of the drop and it's classic

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Speaker 6: Josh Allen. He's buying time, he fakes a defender back,

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Speaker 6: he's rolling to his right and he throws a seeing

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Speaker 6: eye touchdown to Khalil Shakir.

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Speaker 7: That saves the game, like it saves the game.

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Speaker 6: And there's I'll say, like Lamar's hurt Mahomes that's it

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Speaker 6: in terms of making this like fade away throw, roll

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Speaker 6: into your right like on fourth down where that's it.

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Speaker 6: And there was also a Dalton kin k touchdown later

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Speaker 6: in the game that happens within structure and Josh didn't

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Speaker 6: have to do all this. I feel like that's been

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Speaker 6: the first one in weeks where it's been like that

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Speaker 6: for the Buffalo Bills. Where it's I mean it's seventeen

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Speaker 6: and as long as seventeen as they got a chance

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Speaker 6: to do.

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Speaker 12: Even the touchdown that they scored to essicially put this

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Speaker 12: game away was out of structure. It was Allen suddenly

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Speaker 12: has all day to throw its fourth and goal and

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Speaker 12: he finds Jackson Hawes for a three yard touchdown to

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Speaker 12: give them an eleven point lead an eleven point lead

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Speaker 12: that seemed impossible just a few minutes earlier. The sequence

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Speaker 12: that followed that basically preceded the Benford play. Take this

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Speaker 12: for example, James Cook having a great year. They're riding

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Speaker 12: him on the ground. Everything's cool, They're deep in in

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Speaker 12: Bengals territory. He fumbles the ball into the end zone.

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Speaker 12: Bengals recover. Boom, there's their chance to score gone. Bengals

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Speaker 12: respond with a touchdown drive Mike Koseiki puts them up

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Speaker 12: to one to eighteen, and then all hell breaks loose.

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Speaker 12: The Allen touchdown, the Benford picks six. Then aj At

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Speaker 12: Panessa catches a deflected pass, they go down and score.

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Speaker 12: That's the Hawes touchdown to give them suddenly a thirty

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Speaker 12: nine to twenty eight lead. It just happened in such

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Speaker 12: rapids pocession, and I felt like it was an illustration

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Speaker 12: of the difference between a team that has found success

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Speaker 12: for the majority of the season, has overcome adversity, and

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Speaker 12: has positioned themselves now at nine to four to be

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Speaker 12: in a great spot, versus a team that has tried

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Speaker 12: to overcome adversity, has been held back so many times

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Speaker 12: and is ultimately not going to reach the postseason.

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Speaker 14: And it's unfortunate for the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Like, what a way for this Bengals season to essentially

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Speaker 2: end that you have a twenty eight to eighteen point lead.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you pointed out the time element of this.

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Speaker 2: With eight minutes left in this game, and you end

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Speaker 2: up giving up thirty nine points and I know set

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Speaker 2: seven of those is on Joe Burrow and the offense,

635
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Speaker 2: but it's it's just like another kick in the teeth

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Speaker 2: and you wanted at least to watch took that second

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Speaker 2: T Higgins touchdown. And while we do that, like, I

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Speaker 2: want to let you whax on what this Bengals offense

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Speaker 2: did today, because you could argue this one handed catchwa

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Speaker 2: while T. Higgins is getting dragged down, is not even

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Speaker 2: the best Te Higgins touchdown of the game, his first

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Speaker 2: quarter touchdown was absolutely ridiculous. This is an awesome game,

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Speaker 2: But what did you see out of the Bengals offense

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Speaker 2: in the Bills defense today?

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Speaker 12: An offense that was really fortunate to get Te Higgins back,

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Speaker 12: An offense that almost lost to Higgins again when he

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Speaker 12: crashed down to the turf and had to be examined

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Speaker 12: check for a concussion after his head hit the turf

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Speaker 12: and he was frozen there obviously, and they were just

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Speaker 12: really fortunate to have him in there. But another example

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Speaker 12: of how Joe Burrow elevates this team like exponentially. This

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Speaker 12: is an offense that could put up points with Joe

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Speaker 12: Flacco for certain stretches earlier in the season, but we

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Speaker 12: saw over the last two or three starts that he

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Speaker 12: had they had struggled. Now, they didn't have Jamar Chase

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Speaker 12: in one game and they Higgins was in and out.

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Speaker 14: Whatever it might be.

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Speaker 12: Burrow, at one point I thought like, could he be

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Speaker 12: if he were able to lead them to the playoffs

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Speaker 12: with performances like this and this was a super impressive

661
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Speaker 12: one until it all fell apart. Could he potentially be

662
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Speaker 12: in the running for MVP? Because that's how valuable he

663
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Speaker 12: is to this.

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Speaker 1: Team, right, I'm not putting him in the conversation.

665
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Speaker 14: But the game doesn't matter.

666
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Speaker 1: Do we have anything?

667
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: Well, they lost, but I'm saying if they had won

668
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: this game in an alternate universe, I was allowing for

669
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Speaker 2: the fact that the Steelers and Ravens are looking shaky

670
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: enough that I was allowing for the fact Bengals could

671
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Speaker 2: get back in it.

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Speaker 6: But now I'm not feeling the points structure. Isn't that

673
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Speaker 6: possible for Joe the conversation.

674
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Speaker 2: Okay, so we've been mentioning, but Bona killing it behind

675
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: the glass the whole crew. That means Eric Roberts is

676
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Speaker 2: in Buffalo and we have a special message from Eric.

677
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: I have not heard this yet. I'm looking forward to it.

678
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 9: Daily.

679
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: We're out here, they're flowing the field. It's snowing on us.

680
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 7: Wear that.

681
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: Hopefully this is sprinkled on top of a Bill's win recap.

682
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: If not, I'm gonna sit here.

683
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 8: I'm freeze to my seats.

684
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 14: And contemplate life because.

685
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: I flew all the way out here for Joe Burrow

686
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: to ruin my felling vacation. You're probably running late, Greg,

687
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: take a break.

688
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 15: Chris Bona, get him to break now, gold Bill's baby.

689
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: That is a real producer right there.

690
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 7: Eric, keep him warm by.

691
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: That looks like an amazing scene. He knows that we're

692
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: over time. He's telling me just get to your break

693
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: and stop honking. But before I do that, I will say,

694
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: just just check out Eric on Instagram because he had

695
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: some great shots, great seats. Good job by the Roberts family.

696
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: Whoever got those tickets. If it was Eric himself, way

697
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: to go. And he he saw some of the best

698
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: plays of the game from up close. I was happy

699
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: for him, and I'm happy it sets up an awesome

700
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: game in the AFC East next week. Let's take a

701
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: break on the flip side. We're gonna talk about a

702
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: game that could help decide the AFC South. So many

703
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: big ones today, Chris, get him.

704
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: To break, dropping again, looking again, fires in the right

705
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: side of the endo pot, touchdown.

706
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 8: Jacoby Myers caught it in.

707
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 4: The right side of the hands out, fourteen yard scoring strike.

708
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: What a throll, What a throw? What a day for

709
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence h thirty six to nineteen. The Jaguars roll

710
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: over the Indianapolis Colts takeover first place in the AFC

711
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: South feels like a long time ago. The Colts were

712
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: seven and one and on top of the conference that

713
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: was Frank Frazi. By the way, on wj x L,

714
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: some people are saying Jacoby Myers the best trade deadline

715
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: pickup of the year, and in many years that's some

716
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: people where it was Patrick Claybonn in the break leading

717
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: up to it. Unfortunately, Jordan like as great as a

718
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: Jaguars performances is, and we'll get to it. It did

719
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: feel like the biggest news of this day was what

720
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: happened with the Colts.

721
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so at that time that put the Jaguars up

722
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 5: fourteen to seven. It was still a beautiful time when

723
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 5: both teams were relatively healthy. They were going to compete

724
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 5: and this is going to be a ballgame. Blows are

725
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 5: being traded back and forth. But in the biggest game

726
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 5: of the Colt season to date, they lose their quarterback,

727
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Speaker 5: Daniel Jones do an achilles injury that Shane Siken postgame

728
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 5: did not have an official update on, but said does

729
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 5: not look good. A non contact injury on a throw

730
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 5: in the first quarter and he knew it immediately and

731
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 5: he slams his helmet down and by halftime he's on

732
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 5: a boot in a boot on the sideline for the

733
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Speaker 5: rest of the game, and it is an uphill climb

734
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 5: for Riley Leonard at that point.

735
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this Jaguars defense has been playing better yet great,

736
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: you had your eyes, you know, on Riley Leonard the

737
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: rest of the day. But to remind the listeners, Anthony

738
00:34:54,320 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 2: Richardson suffers that freak injury with the exercise band that

739
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: it breaks his eye socket. We have no word on

740
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: when or if he's going to be available again, so

741
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: we'll just have to wait and see. Riley Leonard is

742
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: a late round pick, Nate Tyson's guy out of Notre Dame.

743
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 2: But it's just hard to see this Colts team competing now.

744
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 2: You remember, of course, they gave up their first round

745
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: pick to the Jets to get Sas Gardner. He's currently

746
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: out with a calf injury. And suddenly some of these teams,

747
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: like the Bills, for instance, we just talked about like

748
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: you can almost cross off the Colts. I have a

749
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: feeling because they have such a brutal schedule down the

750
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: stretch too. For Riley Leonard and this team to play

751
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: a team that was already kind of showing signs of decline.

752
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it started with the run game with them.

753
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 5: It was the biggest crack until you know, Daniel Jones

754
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 5: broke his leg and was trying to play through that

755
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 5: entering the game. Was their run game that was really struggling,

756
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 5: and all of their losses this season, teams have held

757
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor for eighty six yards or less and this

758
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 5: game was no different. Now, the Jaguars defense, I want

759
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 5: to say, it wasn't just that they were playing lesser

760
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 5: quarterback competition.

761
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 3: They played really, really well.

762
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Speaker 5: It started with Devin Lloyd who picked off Daniel Jones

763
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 5: on Daniel Jones' very first pass from scrimmage, which you

764
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 5: know you say omens and signs all the time, Greg,

765
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 5: this was a big one and it got they They

766
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 5: swarmed to the ball and they covered really well and

767
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 5: they just were relentless. They ended up taking the ball

768
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 5: away three times, including forcing a fumble on a Jonathan

769
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 5: Taylor carrey, and like I said, bottled up the run

770
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 5: game really really effectively. And that's where I think this

771
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 5: Jaguars defense has improved. But Riley Leonard did not play

772
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Speaker 5: back play poorly in my opinion. The statistic I think

773
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 5: he played better than what his statistics showed, and they

774
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 5: show that he was eighteen of twenty nine with no

775
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 5: passing touchdowns, rushing touchdowns, and of course the interception.

776
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: But he made a couple of really tough throws.

777
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 5: He showed that he wants to push the ball, that

778
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 5: he understands how to run the offense, that he can

779
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 5: push the ball and he can create out of structure,

780
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 5: which he did a couple of times. He made a

781
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 5: couple of really tough throws, including a possible pivotal throw,

782
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 5: which really was one of two moments that could have

783
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 5: helped get the Colts back in this game. That was

784
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 5: a touchdown that was called back to a very suspicious

785
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 5: penalty and there were.

786
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 3: Calls on both sides.

787
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Speaker 5: Guys before I get it in my mentions, but that

788
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 5: was a tough That was a tough one because you

789
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 5: could see the Colts defense really kind of turned to

790
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 5: Riley Leonard after he made that would be touchdown pass

791
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 5: and they were like, all right, we got a chance,

792
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 5: and they ended up forcing a stop on the other

793
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 5: side against Trevor Lawrence and the Jags offense that played

794
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 5: had a really really good game today.

795
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the design success rate for the Colts thirty four

796
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: twenty percent, and it's been it's been falling in recent weeks.

797
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: And that's that's I think what's gonna maybe get forgotten

798
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: in this Colt season that like, unfortunately the seven and

799
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 2: one fall was happening before these injuries. Now, I mean,

800
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: it's crazy to think about what are they They're eight

801
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: and five, so they've won, you know, one game since

802
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: that great star and uh, let's give the Jaguars some love.

803
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would love to, because tem trev it's a

804
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 5: good day for team trev I'm so hard.

805
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: On Trevor Lawrence.

806
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 5: I own that and I recognize that, and I am

807
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 5: always lamenting the roller coaster that is the Trevor Lawrence experience.

808
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 5: But he took care of the ball so well today

809
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 5: Patrick and in a downpour it looked miserable in Jacksonville.

810
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 5: It rained buckets the entire time, but he took care

811
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 5: of the ball. He didn't turn it over. He ran

812
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 5: a couple of times, including a sneak. It was really

813
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 5: important for the for the Jaguars, and he made a

814
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 5: couple of really incredible throws, including this video that I

815
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 5: would like to present. Oh, both I know, and it's

816
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 5: me doing it as a possible Throw of the Year candidate,

817
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 5: because this is a pouring rain throw right here to

818
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 5: Tim Patrick down the sideline and you see the water

819
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 5: dripping off the camera Lene. So it's Trevor rolling out

820
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 5: throwing on the move down the sideline, doing so on

821
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 5: the move as his body's floating away.

822
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: In the pouring rate. Now, I don't know if it

823
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: wins Throw of the Year, but it's not.

824
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: It's not gonna win, no.

825
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: Of course, but it's Trevor.

826
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: It's nice to be nominated.

827
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 5: It's Trevor Lawrence, who I feel like I owed a

828
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 5: nomination to at least one time during the seaton.

829
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 3: I've been pretty hard on him.

830
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: He's playing his best football the last couple of weeks,

831
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: and like.

832
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 6: That a throw where Trevor Lawrence can make it look

833
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 6: routine by making the right decision at the right time,

834
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 6: getting the ball to come down in the right spot

835
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 6: to Tim Patrick where it When he makes it look easy,

836
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 6: it's like, oh, okay, well, yeah, anybody could have done it.

837
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 7: When Trevor does that, that's when everything is working great.

838
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, And we saw like the fully implemented design for

839
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 6: BTJ as well, who's catching deep balls on the side

840
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 6: likee doing what Brian Thomas Junior is supposed to do

841
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 6: out on the edge. And you know, it's fully as

842
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 6: symbol to this point where ETN and the run game,

843
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 6: especially taking advantage of those early Colts turnovers, the one

844
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 6: from Jonathan Taylor, which was backbreaking in hindsight, because Dimes

845
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 6: just goes down and I'm sure Jonathan Taylor thinks, yeah,

846
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 6: I got a grind out every single yard and he's

847
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 6: trying to reach for an extra when the ball gets

848
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 6: poked out. You can credit the Jacks defense from that.

849
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 6: And Devin Lloyd has continued his you know, dpoy cannibacy.

850
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 6: After missing a few games, he comes back. He gets

851
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 6: Dimes again with the play he's got almost every quarterback

852
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 6: they've played this season, lining up right at the line

853
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 6: of scrimmage, dropping out, hotting but behind the line, and

854
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 6: popping up for another pick.

855
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 7: He does it all.

856
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: What a ride this Jaguars team has been on.

857
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 2: Like they started out hot and then they were they

858
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: don't look great before the bye, and suddenly it just

859
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: felt like it went from MESSI fun to just messy.

860
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: And now they're at nine and four everyone's contributed to

861
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: ETN with a long touchdown run you mentioned. I know

862
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: it's slowed down a little bit later in this game.

863
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: And yeah, we've kind of wanted to see Trevor click

864
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: with Liam Cohen. That's been the one thing we haven't seen.

865
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: I thought he had his best game of the season

866
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: last year. You can play well even if it's the Titans,

867
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: and I think what he showed on tape was good

868
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: last week. You could see how fired up Liam Cohen

869
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 2: was on the sideline and he was a little fired

870
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: up after the game too. Team that feeds on disrespect,

871
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 2: how do you does that continue to go when maybe

872
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: the respect starts to come, which might be where you

873
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 2: are ever.

874
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 8: Really get it.

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00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: So that's the beauty of it.

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00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 8: I ain't coming.

877
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: You know that it's not so And that's the beauty

878
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 3: of it.

879
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 14: And that's totally fine.

880
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: All right. He's putting that chip money for Massachusetts. Uh,

881
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: maybe I didn't.

882
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 7: We get no respect.

883
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: The chip is on the shoulder.

884
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: The Jaguars are nine and four currently the three seed,

885
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: and talk about no respect. They haven't allowed the Indianapolis

886
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: Colts to win a football game in Jacksonville since twenty fourteen.

887
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: That's four thy, one hundred and two days. According to

888
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: our friend John Shipley, that includes some pretty garbage Jaguars

889
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 2: teams over over the years.

890
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 7: Who rusher in that game for the Colts Trent Richardson.

891
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 3: Also Liam Cohen.

892
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 5: Hello, we named the Jacksonville Jaguars the messy fun team

893
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 5: of the NFL Daily Podcast, which I know you organization

894
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 5: is aware of.

895
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: So blow.

896
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: The disrespect is not in the building over here.

897
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: That's kind of like backhanded compliments. But I'll if I'm them,

898
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: I would take it as respect at least we're talking

899
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: about Wait, we had a blast with that episode.

900
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 6: Absolutely, unlike somebody else that's sitting at the stable. I

901
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 6: picked the Jacks to win this game, So okay, I

902
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 6: now the respect is is all.

903
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 5: It was a direct comment toward Greg Rosell. I understand everything.

904
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,959
Speaker 2: I'll take that out because I think they were winning

905
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: this game, whether Dana Jones finished it or not. After

906
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 2: watching that, Okay, So that that's who's atop the AFC South.

907
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 2: Let's see if we found any separation in the Great

908
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 2: NFC West.

909
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,959
Speaker 15: To Possession and plus Terrible tour short set a ball fake,

910
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 15: he wheels, he deals jumping at the.

911
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 4: Five book.

912
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 15: One play, a thirty one yard strike, puss up Lukula

913
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 15: with a new career high in touchdowns.

914
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: Wow, thanks for playing m J. D.

915
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: Yes, I'll see for it. I'll see you in the

916
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: film room in like an hour or so. Watch that

917
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: Sunday night football game. Yeah, that was the Pukainakua drive.

918
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: One catch drive, nice and efficient. It was the Pukainakua game.

919
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: Seven catches, one hundred and sixty seven yards and two touchdowns,

920
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: much of those in the first half. Almost felt like

921
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: Patrick he was trying to top himself, like, Oh, you

922
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 2: thought that catch was good, how about this catch? The

923
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 2: Rams win forty five to seventeen in a game where

924
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: Stafford got to just chill for a lot of the

925
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 2: fourth quarter.

926
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 7: And I'm glad that he did. It's always it's always

927
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 7: a couple drives longer.

928
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 6: Or I started to complain about it early because this

929
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 6: one was out of the question to the point where

930
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 6: I'm I'm arguing with next gen stats because there was

931
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 6: a couple of Stafford throwaways targeted that get credited as

932
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 6: a target towards Pokunakua. Or I don't think they should

933
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 6: count because he caught everything as he has for the

934
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 6: past few weeks. He was spectacular. To get a chance

935
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 6: to watch this game and you're worried about the score,

936
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 6: it's worth it just to see how Pooka was playing

937
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 6: the start of the fourth quarter. Was Jimmy g in

938
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 6: the game because the offense for the Rams was averaging

939
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 6: almost nine yards of play. Stafford does retake the lead

940
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 6: in the conversation as the Patriots were a bye, so

941
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 6: I'll get a full score update coming out probably on

942
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 6: Monday night. But the Rams defense is what made this

943
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 6: one laughable. They pressured, were set on forty eight percent

944
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 6: of his dropbacks. He completed less than half of his

945
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 6: attempts when he was under pressure. The offense looked disjointed

946
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 6: and clunky for the vast majority of the afternoon. He

947
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 6: was a negative six in terms of completion percentage over expected,

948
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 6: so he was under expected in terms of that stat

949
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 6: on the completion percentage. Michael Wilson in that one role

950
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 6: where he can play because there was no Marvin Harrison

951
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 6: Junior there.

952
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 7: But it's scarcely difficult to call this one a football game.

953
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 6: And late Lake Korm had a long touchdown where I

954
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 6: wondered if that was the beginning of the end of

955
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 6: the Jonathan Gannon Eric I.

956
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 5: Think that was the longest Rams touchdown of the season. Actually,

957
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 5: they hadn't had They don't do a lot of explosive

958
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 5: running Blake Rum really I mean into blocking on that.

959
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we keep hearing again in safe and Monty

960
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: Austin for It's safe. They're showing Monty Austin Ford in

961
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: the owners you know booth, you know, sitting next to

962
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: it's a good place to bed. Well it is, So

963
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,479
Speaker 2: that makes me think he's more likely to stay.

964
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: But I've just seen this enough.

965
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: We've seen this over and over in the years, where

966
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: insiders say these guys are safe or they're trending.

967
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: Oh, they're not going to be in trouble at all.

968
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: And that's early December, and then they get their teeth

969
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 2: kicked in, and then there's another week and they get

970
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: their teeth kicked in again, and then there's another week

971
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: and it's like this month, it's a long way to go.

972
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: It feels like the Cardinal season is over. But they

973
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: got to play four more of these games and they

974
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: keep getting embarrassed. I just it's hard for them to

975
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: make a case if it continues to go like this,

976
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: especially in this division where he's had a chance now

977
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 2: year three to kind of show, Okay, what can I

978
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: do defensively against these teams and everyone's putting up a

979
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: forty burger on them. The forty nine ers are that

980
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 2: the Seahawks are and now the Rams are. But yeah,

981
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: you mentioned the run game, Patrick, they go for two

982
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: hundred and forty nine yards on the ground. I don't

983
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: think it's like a secret weapon, but I think if

984
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: the Rams win the Super Bowl, and I think they

985
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: have as good a chance as any team in the

986
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 2: league to do it, their running game is gonna be

987
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: one of, if not the biggest reasons why it looked

988
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: great today.

989
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 6: And again you know the Cardinals caveat Although in defense

990
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 6: of Jonathan Gannon and the Cardinals.

991
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 7: The close losses did pile up the course of the season.

992
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 7: It hasn't been like this. It has gotten there late.

993
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 6: But it was whether it was Williams, whether it's Corn,

994
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 6: whether it was Ronnie Rivers late in the fourth shot

995
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 6: out to Ronnie Rivers, who had a lot of garbage

996
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 6: done it today because there was a.

997
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 7: Lot of it available. Well partly kind of my games today,

998
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 7: by the.

999
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 1: Way, Yeah, that's unfortunate.

1000
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking that your game's early ye had

1001
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: some blowouts too, but then you got the good win

1002
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: lat the great one.

1003
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 5: This was back to the thirteen personnel way that we've

1004
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,959
Speaker 5: seen from Sean mcfay, which is fascinating. I've been talking

1005
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 5: to some people around the league about this over the

1006
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 5: last couple of weeks, and there's this theory that's being

1007
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 5: played out, and I think we're just gonna need a lot,

1008
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 5: like just more data from the entire season to just

1009
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 5: see kind of what matches what. But that it's so

1010
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 5: easy for him to skip right over twelve personnel and

1011
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 5: go directly to thirteen, not just because he has the

1012
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 5: tight ends to do it and the skill level of

1013
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 5: the tight end position to do it even without you know,

1014
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 5: guys banged up, But it's a lot of the same

1015
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 5: eleven personnel concepts and route patterns that is just being

1016
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 5: run out of a heavier personnel and when they go

1017
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 5: against the defense that is a little bit more of

1018
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 5: a matchup based deef. So Jonathan Gannon scheming a matchup

1019
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 5: week by week, which we know he tends to do.

1020
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 5: This is their version of just loading up and what

1021
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 5: other teams say We'll load up and run the ball

1022
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 5: down your throat. This is their version of it, except

1023
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 5: they keep their passing game open as well because of

1024
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 5: what they're their tight ends can do and what Pukakua

1025
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 5: can do.

1026
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw Tarah Barsap with the ESPN said they

1027
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: had more yeah, thirteen personnel, three tight ends on the

1028
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: field in the first half of this game than any

1029
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 2: game all season. So they they loaded up, they pushed

1030
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: them around. It was nice to see their pass rush

1031
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: get after it again. They had nine quick pressures in

1032
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 2: this game, a million pressures in general. As Patrick mentioned,

1033
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 2: they've been a little quiet at points lately, and Nate

1034
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 2: Landman did his thing again with a crazy, awesome interception

1035
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: in the second half.

1036
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: I'm now gonna put Bobona on.

1037
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: The mic for the first time in his show, and

1038
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 2: this is a legacy game for Bobona, and I'm gonna

1039
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: give you the decision. As we just talked all about

1040
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: these tight ends, do you want the Colby Parkinson touchdown

1041
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: in the show or do you think we should make

1042
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: up some time and move along?

1043
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 7: Now you're you're gonna play it because I cut it.

1044
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 8: What third and goal helmet high snap looking left pros medal.

1045
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 8: It's a touchdown.

1046
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 15: Larkishon. How about the Sean McVay flu game. The head

1047
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 15: coach and play callers sick on the road in Arizona.

1048
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 15: Five drives, five scores, Stafford surgical in la is blowing

1049
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 15: out Arizona.

1050
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: That is awesome. You know, it's a blot when we

1051
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: spent the second half wondering like what what was his sickness?

1052
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: Maybe it was the flu. JB. Long knows all. And

1053
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: I like how spicy Chris gott.

1054
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 7: I just want to add, yes, Sean McVay is not

1055
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 7: the only one who had a flu game. I spent

1056
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 7: the last forty eight hours in bed.

1057
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: There we go, came here, there we go.

1058
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 7: I delivered. Yeah, I've been kind of Sickleye.

1059
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: We haven't reached half a Yeah, Chris, so you know,

1060
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: don't a lot of game.

1061
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 7: He's pointing out the score game McVay. Yeah.

1062
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 2: I also, I also shouldn't be too surprised because Chris

1063
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: is a RAMS fan.

1064
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 3: Of course I know he's dead that of course we

1065
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 3: played the highlight. He's got his cap and his jacket on.

1066
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: Well, not everything was in Rams fandom today because they

1067
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 2: had to watch the Seahawks put it on the Atlanta

1068
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: Tawk shhed.

1069
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 14: The deeper of the two back on the goal line

1070
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 14: and here comes to kick end over end.

1071
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 9: Shaheed from the goal line near right side, numbers up

1072
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 9: the field ten twenty looking for a gap.

1073
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 8: He's got one.

1074
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 7: He's off to the racers.

1075
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 8: Lookout.

1076
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: This could be at fifty forty thirty.

1077
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 8: They're not gonna touch him.

1078
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:23,479
Speaker 1: Ten five.

1079
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 8: He looks back, touch down Sheeahawks. What a way to

1080
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 8: start the second half.

1081
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 4: Kick the ball to Rashi shed and take no baby

1082
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 4: for a hundred yards.

1083
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 8: And he does so.

1084
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: The score was tied at that point, six to sixth Yeah, halftime.

1085
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 2: The final score was thirty seven to nine. We can

1086
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: go in a lot of directions here. I appreciate the

1087
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 2: great call by Steve Rabel here on KIRO, but how

1088
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 2: about we start this way.

1089
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 7: Let's do it.

1090
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 2: Raheem Morris got those three points by kicking a field

1091
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 2: goal when twenty three to nine inside the ten yard

1092
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: line on a fourth and two. That's the most gutless

1093
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 2: field goal I've seen all year, and the most pointless.

1094
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: What are you doing, Raheem? Let's give the love? Actually, yeah,

1095
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: it was just it was a very very sad field goal,

1096
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: and it's saddest. That was the saddest. It was the

1097
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: twenty three to six.

1098
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 5: That's the clack like, what is it the claxon horn

1099
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 5: of field goal?

1100
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 6: Wow, we will we will give that the twenty twenty

1101
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 6: five sad field goal Award, Thank you for the Falcons.

1102
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 6: Where As a tail of two halves, that's the start

1103
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 6: of the third quarter where the Falcons have somehow managed

1104
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 6: to have this a six to six ball game. Rashijied

1105
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 6: has that touchdown. By the way, the average length of

1106
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 6: Rashik si Heat's touchdowns in his career in the NFL

1107
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 6: is over fifty yards. This one hundred yard kick return

1108
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 6: definitely helps that, but consistently because we're years into this,

1109
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 6: uh and he's still doing it. So after the game,

1110
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 6: Raheem Morris said that that was a backbreaker. It costs

1111
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 6: the team the momentum. Kirk Cousins was asked about that

1112
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 6: and said, quote, who cares. We have to find our

1113
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 6: way back. You have to play your way back from that.

1114
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 6: So in honor of Kirk Cousins, Falcons are officially eliminated.

1115
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 6: Other than my linkage to Terry Fontea after putting him

1116
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 6: up there in the GM rankings. There's no reason to

1117
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 6: discuss Kirk Cousins and the Falcons anymore. So we'll honor

1118
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 6: Kirk's request and thank this Seahawks essentially on the way.

1119
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 6: Although Jean Robinson crossed the thousand yards and Kyle Pitts

1120
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 6: had ninety plus through the air, let's talk Seahawks because

1121
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 6: against man Blitzes, against the defense that was the top

1122
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 6: pass defense in the NFL at one point, Sam Donald

1123
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 6: had an interception in the first half, a rough first half,

1124
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 6: but this late season, Sam kind of went away in

1125
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 6: the second half. He had three touchdowns against Van Blitzz.

1126
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 6: There were two JSN touchdowns where he won that one

1127
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 6: on one battle with Ajterrell and they got one quick

1128
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 6: pressure did the Falcons on Donald? The passer rating win

1129
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 6: pressure today was one hundred and twenty seven. So the

1130
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 6: folks that were watching this Donald decline, it definitely went away.

1131
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 6: I understand as Kirk Cousins says, who cares a much

1132
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 6: better game from Sam? Slinging Sammy today? In a dominant

1133
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 6: Seahawks performance when they go on a thirty four to

1134
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 6: three run to close it out.

1135
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: Like that is how the Seahawks play football, though they

1136
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: have now four This was a graphic during the show,

1137
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: four thirty point halves this year, and I'm like, that

1138
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: can't happen too often. They've done it four times. The

1139
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 2: rest of the NFL combined has done it six times.

1140
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: So they explode whether it's special teams, defense or offense.

1141
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 2: But I do think on a day where they didn't

1142
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: run the ball too well, we kind of know their

1143
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 2: special teams and their defense is gonna be good.

1144
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: That's not a surprise to me.

1145
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 2: I think they got to feel good to have such

1146
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: a positive Sam Darnold performance where he did get Shahat

1147
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: involved too as a receiver. Cooper Cup gets a touchdown

1148
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: and JSN gets back on the MBP track.

1149
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's not gonna happen.

1150
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 6: JSN does get the points from this game with the

1151
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 6: two scores on the road, and so yeah, it's back

1152
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 6: in the positive in the conversation.

1153
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 7: But you know the vibes in general and their offense

1154
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 7: all the way up.

1155
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he beats aj Terrell like on an inside move

1156
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 2: and then dust him on a catch and run early.

1157
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: That was their second touch down of the second half.

1158
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was incredible.

1159
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 5: He had five passes on seven targets when matched up

1160
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,479
Speaker 5: against Ajterrell for eighty one yards down according to next

1161
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 5: jen Stats, this is maybe the best.

1162
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 3: Team in football. Uh one through three? Pick one and

1163
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 3: put him there, right, And you mentioned that.

1164
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: Who is three Packers?

1165
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 3: Okay, put the Packers there.

1166
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: It's cool.

1167
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 3: It's all NFC teams in my book.

1168
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: Anyway, I feel like because a body of work I

1169
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 2: put the Rams in Seahawks about But you're right, I

1170
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: think Packers gets.

1171
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: In the age today.

1172
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that what that defense did today. I think, first

1173
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 5: of all, great for Sam Darnold. This is exactly when

1174
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 5: you want your quarterback playing some of his best football,

1175
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 5: especially problem solving against some of the pressure. Look, you

1176
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 5: know that Jeff Ulbrich did not make it easy on

1177
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 5: him with some of the blitzing that that Atlanta likes

1178
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 5: to do. And also you mentioned Greg that the Rams

1179
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 5: were probably really sad watching the Seahawks cruise, but they

1180
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 5: got a draft pick that good. Watching a little bit

1181
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 5: closer than that, I think Atlanta is giving them a

1182
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 5: pretty high high value first round pick.

1183
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 2: Atlanta right now has is projected according to tankathon, for

1184
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 2: the number nine pick. That trade looking better and better

1185
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: since I didn't watch this game really almost at all.

1186
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: Patrick ok, I do want you to tell me something

1187
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: you found interesting about the seahawks defensive performance against your

1188
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: guy Kirk oh other than the fact that it was

1189
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 2: they were covering a man named Dylan Drummond who had

1190
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 2: four or five catches.

1191
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, and David Sills also getting back in the game

1192
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 6: of this high line Falcons offense where they had Nicki

1193
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 6: men Wury matched up, and I know col Pits had

1194
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 6: a great game, but really allowing nick Eman Worriy to

1195
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 6: to get involved in man coverage against Kyle Pits like use,

1196
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 6: It's two incredibly large, fast gifted athletes and Pitt's got

1197
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 6: the better of them on honestly, Kirk Cousins best throw

1198
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 6: of the game. But to have that amount of faith

1199
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 6: in the rookie because it was still a game at

1200
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 6: that point before the second half offensive explosion, where it's

1201
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 6: I know that there's the rookie wall theorizers out there,

1202
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 6: but you get Nicky Man Worriy in these situations where

1203
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 6: they're able to provide pressure from so many different places.

1204
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 6: It was that the vintage Seahawks were we haven't been

1205
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 6: concerned with the defense but just in the deployment of

1206
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 6: the talent that they have available.

1207
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 7: It's a really good spot.

1208
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: Three more quick pressures from DeMarcus Lawrence, who's turning this

1209
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 2: from like a great story to just like is he

1210
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 2: an All Pro this year? Like he is getting into

1211
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 2: that with just one of my favorite players of the

1212
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 2: last decade. And I loved hearing Jackson Smith and Jigba

1213
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: after the games saying, yeah, nick Emon, worry was that

1214
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: guy in practice that he's been picking on all year

1215
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 2: because he thinks he can be special, but that he's

1216
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: kind of put an X on his back. I'm going

1217
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: to make you better by trying to embarrass you in practice.

1218
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: And now he's out there just balling as a rookie.

1219
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 2: So the Seahawks take care of business. Would another division

1220
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,439
Speaker 2: leader who is play in today, the NFD South leading

1221
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, do the same.

1222
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 7: I've got the new right tackle is Sherman Shuck.

1223
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: Oh. Here they come up to the middle.

1224
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 8: We got away from one, he got away from Baya.

1225
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 8: Here he goes touchdown his second touchdown run today. Shot

1226
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 8: from thirteen Kevin how that was amazing.

1227
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 7: Yes, it was the best of the game.

1228
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: I do not know, I do not know.

1229
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 2: Great job there by Kevin Harlan and uh Trent Green

1230
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 2: with an excellently timed question, and oh wow, that boy

1231
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: can move Tyler Shuck. What's the difference in this game

1232
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 2: on the ground and not making many mistakes through there?

1233
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 2: There was that one interception seven runs for fifty five

1234
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 2: yards to touch downs from Chuck on a day that

1235
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 2: was played in a driving rainstorm for much of the game.

1236
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 2: Jordan's given me a curious look. Why are you giving

1237
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 2: me such a curious look?

1238
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 5: You know, Greg, It's just because I'm just I'm just

1239
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 5: so confused, you know, because all I heard from you, uh,

1240
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 5: leading up to the draft and then after Saints drafted

1241
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 5: Tyler Schuck was that he runs from pressure. He spazzes

1242
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 5: out against pressure. He fritz it so on that play

1243
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 5: it looked like like he navigated pressure and then like

1244
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 5: didn't run backwards right or get moved backwards like I'm

1245
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 5: just making sure I'm seeing it.

1246
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: He's he has done a great job using his feet.

1247
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: This game might not be the best spot for that

1248
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 2: negative twenty percent completion percentage over expected when under pressure

1249
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 2: so much better holding onto the balls, taking sacks. But

1250
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 2: I don't want to rain on that parade. It was

1251
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 2: raining so hard that hurt the passing game in general.

1252
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 2: And you said it like these like they basically were

1253
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: given him. The Taysom Hill plays, there's a design run

1254
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 2: in the first half for a touchdown, and his ability

1255
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 2: to play well late in the fourth quarter and his

1256
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 2: ability to run has been a total game changer for

1257
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: this offense.

1258
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: And he's looked better each and every week.

1259
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 6: And it makes me kind of look back to that

1260
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 6: last season at Louisville where he breaks his leg in

1261
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 6: twenty twenty three. He's coming back, he's trying to play.

1262
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 6: He's already a little bit older through this process, and

1263
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 6: I'm wondering if our evaluation of Tyler Shuck was based

1264
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 6: on early coming back from that broken leg and playing

1265
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 6: on it, trying to get a chance in the NFL

1266
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 6: where you start with Spencer Ratler for the first few

1267
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 6: weeks of the season, and now this is the fully

1268
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 6: formed and fully healthy Tyler Shuck playing in a mud

1269
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 6: slop field where, yeah, the passing numbers weren't great, they

1270
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 6: were better than Baker Mayfield.

1271
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and he had you know, a few like

1272
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 2: just zone passes over the middle to Juwan Johnson or

1273
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 2: Foster Moreau. He had a few dump offs where he

1274
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 2: got through his read that were good. He avoided, you know,

1275
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 2: mostly big mistakes. But the plays that impressed me the

1276
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 2: most in this game were his two throws to Devon

1277
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 2: Vley late in the game where they are trying to

1278
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 2: kill clock and Kellen Moore does show a little bit

1279
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 2: of faith in his young quarterback, you know, calling four

1280
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 2: passes late while they're trying to kill clock, and he

1281
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: hits Veley for thirteen yards on the sideline. Really nice throw,

1282
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 2: and he keeps doing that on a third and five,

1283
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: and that was a few plays after he did a

1284
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 2: very similar third down completion to Velea, and it's like

1285
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 2: he's making those plays late in the game, whereas Baker

1286
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 2: Mayfield gets the ball back with all the time in

1287
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 2: the world and they go four and out and one

1288
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 2: of those four should have been an interception but just

1289
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,439
Speaker 2: was dropped by Jonah Sanker, and the Bucks go three

1290
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 2: of thirteen on third down and two of seven on

1291
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: fourth down, many of which were runs. But it was

1292
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 2: another day where Baker was just not great under pressure,

1293
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 2: not great in terms of intermediate throws, just just not great.

1294
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's really struggling, and you're starting to see some

1295
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 5: of the They've had a very few games where their

1296
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 5: entire line has actually been completely healthy and complete. And

1297
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 5: obviously Tristan Worth's not being a part of this one

1298
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 5: as well is a factor. But yeah, he has not

1299
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 5: played good football for weeks now, and yes, part of it.

1300
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 5: You know, you have to wonder how bad is the

1301
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 5: shoulder hurting him And obviously that's not the I don't

1302
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 5: think that's the throwing arm of still the pain of it,

1303
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 5: and all of.

1304
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 2: That year he ran really well. Today that was probably

1305
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 2: the best thing he did. Yeah, that was good to see.

1306
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 5: And he has to you if you can't. He's been

1307
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 5: such an inconsistent thrower. It's almost like he's trying to

1308
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 5: force plays. And in the early weeks of this when

1309
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 5: he I guess in a way he was still forcing

1310
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 5: plays and pushing the ball.

1311
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 3: It's just they were working.

1312
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 5: And so that was our particularly preferred brand of Baker

1313
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 5: Ball chaos, and in this case it's just not working.

1314
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 5: And I know, I'm I was, you know, being all

1315
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 5: tongue in cheek about the Tyler Sheck thing, but I

1316
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 5: think it's a It's a cool testament, Greg, And we've

1317
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,439
Speaker 5: talked about this of like how a quarterback can change

1318
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 5: and grow up over the course of a season, and

1319
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 5: how a lot of times it's happening on a really

1320
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 5: bad football team and not a lot of people are

1321
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 5: actually watching it happen.

1322
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 3: But I know that you've been watching his.

1323
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 5: Tape really closely and understanding a little bit more about

1324
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 5: like how he is starting to actually handle what's coming

1325
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 5: at him pressure wise and seeing a lot of different

1326
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 5: types of it week over week two, because other teams

1327
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 5: are coming at him with that consideration of what they

1328
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 5: saw on college.

1329
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a different test And the Buccaneers chose

1330
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 2: to not blitz almost at all in this game, and

1331
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 2: it made sense because they still got a lot of pressure.

1332
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 2: But like like we said, he handled it pretty well

1333
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 2: for the most part. I do feel bad because early

1334
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 2: in the day I just send notes as we're doing it,

1335
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 2: and I did have a with toating Nominefrostuck, which was interception,

1336
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 2: so but this was it.

1337
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: Was more of a it was more of a miscommunication.

1338
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: It's just.

1339
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 2: His receivers stopped on the route and Alave read it differently,

1340
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 2: and I don't know who was that fault there, But

1341
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 2: it's always just funny when he just just throw the

1342
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 2: ball and there's no one else, you know in the area.

1343
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: I do he played great.

1344
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, we've seen both Lamar and Mahomes have bumbles this

1345
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 6: year where they try to get the check swing and

1346
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 6: the ball comes out. That's the one where you see

1347
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 6: why it happens because Shuck, he sees the receiver stop,

1348
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 6: but he's already in his throwing motion.

1349
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 2: Lay this thing out here and look, I know the

1350
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 2: Saints might have messed up their drafts, you know, standing

1351
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 2: for a little bit right now.

1352
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: But the big takeaway here is obviously that the Bucks

1353
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: lose this game.

1354
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 2: They're still in first at seven and six, now tied

1355
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 2: with the Panthers, two games left against the Panthers.

1356
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 6: And the Panthers sitting at home and watching, and a

1357
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 6: guy who's got a chance to be the offensive rookie

1358
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 6: of the year in Tedoral McMillan watching a fourth quarter

1359
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 6: a Mecca Buca out and up where Baker actually does

1360
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 6: get on the ball and he stonehands it right there

1361
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 6: in the end zone down the stretch for a Buka.

1362
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:09,439
Speaker 6: It's tough.

1363
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 2: It's been one big drop a week enough where I

1364
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 2: think it's impacted his Rookie of the Year chances for sure.

1365
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they're over.

1366
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 2: But that ball was maybe like a little high and

1367
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 2: like a little hot, So it wasn't It wasn't quite

1368
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 2: as easy as it looked when they when they did

1369
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 2: show the replay, and I do have to repeat, most

1370
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 2: of this game was played in the most disgusting conditions.

1371
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: It was all mud.

1372
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 2: Everyone's uniforms were insane. There's giant divots in the ground.

1373
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 2: The reason why the Bucks like went two for seven

1374
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 2: and fourth down is like they kept going for these

1375
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 2: fourth and shorts in spots where it made sense, and

1376
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 2: like you just couldn't get any push, like the traction.

1377
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: It was disgusting. There is in a great way.

1378
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 5: There was no baking and as we head into a

1379
01:04:55,520 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 5: break a teaser also very little cooking sunday.

1380
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, it is not a yet not a lot

1381
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: of baking. Let's take a quick break, as Jordan teezed,

1382
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: and yes we'll come back on the other side. Jets don't.

1383
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 7: First and ten at the twelve yard line. Bitch pay

1384
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 7: hm left side trying to get a wrong.

1385
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 8: Of courts back in ten pints style, Dolphins.

1386
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 4: Patience, and then the great burst once the blocks were

1387
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 4: set up to take off and get in the in zone.

1388
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:36,479
Speaker 7: Man, the Dolphins are having fun.

1389
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 1: Sounds like it. Dolphins win in the Meadowlands thirty four

1390
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: to ten.

1391
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 2: That was Jimmy Cefalo, Joe Rose maybe in the mix

1392
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:51,919
Speaker 2: on WBGG. Devon h Chan been one of the best

1393
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 2: players at his position in the entire NFL.

1394
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: Unfortunately got hurt in this game. Before the break.

1395
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 2: You made a great punt, That's what Jordan does, referring

1396
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 2: to a man named Brady Cook, And it went over

1397
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 2: my head in the moment.

1398
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 5: I was thinking of those goofy passes.

1399
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brady Cook comes in for an injured Tyrod Taylor,

1400
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 2: and that was kind of all. She wrote in a

1401
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 2: game that the Miami Dolphins were dominated on offense even

1402
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 2: before that.

1403
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, well before Tyrod Taylor left the game with a

1404
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 5: groin injury. Two consecutive early scoring drives spearheaded by Devon

1405
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 5: a change who had an incredible start to this game,

1406
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 5: left with a ribs injury, and then Mike McDaniel said

1407
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 5: postgame that they held him out for the rest of

1408
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 5: the game, mostly at a precaution. He could have returned

1409
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 5: if it was a crucial game. He was already at

1410
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 5: ninety three yard including a touchdown, and just looked magical.

1411
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 5: And this game was so out of hand that when

1412
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 5: Tyrel Dodson made a great play on a Tyrod Taylor

1413
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 5: throw a little Tyrell on Tyrod violence there he corralled

1414
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 5: the ball between his knees to come down with an interception,

1415
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 5: and then the Dolphins scored on the other side of that.

1416
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 5: So it was twenty one zero in the first quarter

1417
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 5: and the Dolphins had one hundred and seventy eight yards

1418
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 5: to the Jets eighteen yards. And then Brady Cook came

1419
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 5: in a little bit later. Overall, the Jets scored ten

1420
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 5: total points and all of them were on specialty.

1421
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, Isaiah Williams getting it done for this,

1422
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: that Jets second.

1423
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 7: Part return touchdown on the season.

1424
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was nice too. He was earned it.

1425
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 2: We weren't familiar with Brady Cook's work before this. Patrick,

1426
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 2: did you go to school? Did you earn anything?

1427
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 6: Well, we were actually on that drive of the highlight

1428
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 6: on Game Day Live, and so Rod goes into the

1429
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 6: locker room and there's a player running out on the

1430
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 6: field wearing number four, And I'm telling Steve, I'm absolutely

1431
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 6: not googling who Brady Cook is right now because I

1432
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 6: was behind on my sec you know, down the down

1433
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 6: the standings Missouri quarterback.

1434
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 7: I was not aware of Brady Cook. If I was,

1435
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 7: I had forgotten he existed prior to today.

1436
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: It was part of a trend.

1437
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 2: This was the first week since Week eight of twenty three,

1438
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 2: which is, you know, October of twenty twenty three, when

1439
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 2: there was more than four non first round quarterbacks playing

1440
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 2: much less at the same time, much less all in

1441
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 2: the early window.

1442
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: But I don't want to take away what's happening in Miami.

1443
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 2: They have gotten a little lucky, frankly, not just that

1444
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 2: the schedule has been easy, but they had close wins

1445
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 2: against the Saints in Washington. And if I'm going to

1446
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 2: knock them for needing kind of a lucky play here

1447
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 2: there to win each of those games, we should give

1448
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 2: them some credit for just destroying the Jets sweeping the series.

1449
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: What did you like watching the Dolphins today?

1450
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 3: I liked everything about their offense. I'm not kidding like that.

1451
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 5: I know what their season is, but I have to say,

1452
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 5: like since the start to the season, Mike McDaniel, I

1453
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 5: think is coaching like one of the best coaches in

1454
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 5: the NFL right now, and so is Anthony Weaver. And

1455
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 5: the tandem really really works. And I know people could

1456
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 5: hear that and grown, but go watch the games because

1457
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 5: this scheme, he is doing things that are free or

1458
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 5: in a sense that this is what you thought he

1459
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 5: was gonna do when he took over the job. And

1460
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 5: I think a lot of times coaches start coaching into

1461
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 5: the ecosystem, and you heard a lot of stories about

1462
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 5: players getting kind of doing whatever they wanted, and there

1463
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 5: was some maybe some some voices in the room that

1464
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 5: were encouraging those types of things that aren't there at

1465
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 5: this moment.

1466
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 3: And so it's it's one of those things where it's clear.

1467
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: It is so clear, Tyreek, Hi, just say my name.

1468
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,759
Speaker 5: Well, you know they and they moved on from Jalen Ramsey,

1469
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 5: who you know that I am a huge fan of

1470
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 5: as a person and a player.

1471
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 3: But also like it.

1472
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 5: Gets tough sometimes, especially when you're losing. And so Mike McDaniel,

1473
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 5: even despite the fact that they've had some real stinkers

1474
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 5: of quarterback games, you can see that this scheme and

1475
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 5: the way that they have these guys playing together and

1476
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 5: and fun and trying things. He's got these two tight

1477
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 5: ends working in a way where they're like they're working

1478
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 5: every angle of the field, including.

1479
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 3: Like retirement home Darren Waller.

1480
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 5: They're working every leverage point and angle in the passing

1481
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 5: and the running game on the field. They've got someone

1482
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 5: really really special in Ollie Gordon who can come in

1483
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 5: and spell and needed to today at running back. Mike

1484
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 5: McDaniel is having so much fun that he's got his

1485
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 5: drawstrings around his hoodie tied like a bolo tie, Like

1486
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 5: this is the guy that we remember years ago coming

1487
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 5: in and putting up massive scoring games against some of

1488
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 5: these defenses.

1489
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 3: And I think they're doing a hell of a job.

1490
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 5: And I want to give them props because I feel

1491
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 5: like a lot of the season and rightfully so, we're

1492
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 5: thinking this guy's out the door. I don't think it's

1493
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 5: I don't think it's crazy to talk about him possibly

1494
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 5: keeping this job at this point.

1495
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 2: No, we got to find out who the GM is.

1496
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 2: We got to see how it ends too. They have

1497
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 2: the Steelers, Bengals, Bucks, and Patriots, so they'll be able

1498
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 2: to write their story.

1499
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:49,719
Speaker 1: They did get to that point.

1500
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 2: I've been talking about for a month that you can

1501
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 2: see a scenario where they get to six and seven.

1502
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 2: They're playing a meaningful game. It's a Monday night game

1503
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 2: against Pittsburgh. The problem is in the AFC, there's still

1504
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 2: two losses behind, so they still need to run the table. Look,

1505
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 2: they're they're testing the bounds of how little production they

1506
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 2: can get out of to a tongue of ailoa and

1507
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 2: still win a game. He goes twelve for twenty three

1508
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 2: for one hundred and fifty seven yards. I think that

1509
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 2: was last week. This time it's three hundred, you know,

1510
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 2: thirteen for twenty one for one hundred and twenty seven yard.

1511
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 2: They win the game, and they haven't top two hundred

1512
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 2: yards passing in a month, but they get to win

1513
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 2: and they're feeling good. It's always going to feel better

1514
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 2: when you're on a four game winning streak. Let's go

1515
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 2: to Minnesota, where there's a team that needs to feel

1516
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 2: a little better, and they were.

1517
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,759
Speaker 15: After Sunday, fourth and goal from the two, Hawkinson emotion

1518
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 15: to the right, McCarthy back to pass, basketball right hot.

1519
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 8: DJ bounces off touch down Jay Hawkinson.

1520
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 3: What a tough guy.

1521
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 8: Touchdown A thirty zero.

1522
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: Tough guy.

1523
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 2: Touchdown by Paul Allen on Kfan. Well, you see like

1524
01:11:55,280 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 2: the injured Commanders defender just trying to recover from what t. J.

1525
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 1: Hockinson was thrown at him.

1526
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 2: I love that O'Connor went for it there on fourth down,

1527
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 2: let his quarterback try to get his third touchdown of

1528
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 2: the day, and he did it. The Minnesota Vikings got

1529
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 2: shut out last week and they win with a shutout

1530
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 2: today thirty one to nothing.

1531
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 6: They get revenge against the Bagel. Welcome back to JJ McCarthy,

1532
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 6: who really stepped in to all three of these touchdown throws,

1533
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 6: two of them to Josh Oliver. The first one comes

1534
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 6: up the seam against the Commanders defense that we had

1535
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 6: seen some improvement WITHDQ calling plays and they were in

1536
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 6: games they were not in this one.

1537
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 7: They get Jayden Daniels back.

1538
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 6: He goes nine of twenty at a bit of a

1539
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 6: theme where he leaves the game with an injury to

1540
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,879
Speaker 6: the same elbow he just comes back from because he gets.

1541
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 7: A huge hit on a play where.

1542
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 6: Andrew Van Ginkle does Andrew van Ginkle and it's the

1543
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 6: Brian Flores defense suddenly materializes and these are the plays

1544
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 6: that we're used to seeing them make where aveg looks

1545
01:12:58,160 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 6: like he's gonna have another pick six.

1546
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 7: This problem is she's not as fast as Terry McLaurin.

1547
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 6: He was looking around to see how he was gonna

1548
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 6: get caught, and scary Terry comes back and gets him.

1549
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 6: But then Marcus Maroota comes in the game. He's trying

1550
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 6: to force the ball to zach Ertz, he gets high

1551
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 6: loaded and he leaves the game with a knee injury.

1552
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 6: You saw the injury on the touchdown to t J.

1553
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 6: Hockinson where it just goes bad to worse for the

1554
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 6: Washington Commanders. They get eliminated officially. Now mathematically, Greg you

1555
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,879
Speaker 6: don't have to worry about them being on any graphics.

1556
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 6: Not sure that was going to be a concern after

1557
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 6: this one either, But the Vikings, the Vikings do still

1558
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 6: have an outside mathematical chance.

1559
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 2: They have not been eliminated. The Falcons Commanders they were.

1560
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 2: And it's a bummer to see Daniels leave with an injury.

1561
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 2: After the game, dan Quinn indicated that Daniels could have

1562
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 2: come back in and we'll see about next week.

1563
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 1: Zach Ertz.

1564
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, it sounds like he tore his acl They said

1565
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 2: it doesn't look good. It wasn't confirmed, so you hate

1566
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 2: to see that for anyone, much less a veteran like

1567
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 2: zach Ertz. And yeah, Mariota comes in and throws an

1568
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 2: interception on his very first throw. JJ got more help

1569
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 2: today now he you know, he obviously was more under control.

1570
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 2: I don't know what you saw, but he also gets

1571
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 2: a running game fifty percent success rate. They rack up

1572
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,560
Speaker 2: yards on the ground, and the defense plays like the

1573
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 2: Vikings can play defense.

1574
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 1: What did you see out of J Well?

1575
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 6: A player again, a very young quarterback, still you know,

1576
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 6: still learning things. The overstriding critique does remain. You get

1577
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 6: those big steps, but when you have space in the

1578
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 6: pocket and he's making those throws on time, where a

1579
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 6: couple of weeks ago, you know, prior to the concussion

1580
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 6: where it's it was late, he had guys open and

1581
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:39,759
Speaker 6: he wasn't hitting those throws.

1582
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 7: He had him this time.

1583
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,600
Speaker 6: And that's the up and down experience we're going to have,

1584
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 6: I think with a young quarterback where the we've seen

1585
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:51,679
Speaker 6: this really intense long term viability conversation about this twenty

1586
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 6: three year old quarterback up and down all season long,

1587
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 6: and I think we're gonna hear it probably for the

1588
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:57,839
Speaker 6: next couple of seasons.

1589
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: But it's he saw the growth to there, well he could,

1590
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: he could quiet it down, and I.

1591
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 6: Think Max Brozmer's performance definitely helped set people's there that

1592
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 6: did too.

1593
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 2: And then there was this week where like every question

1594
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 2: every press conference is about how simplified the offense is

1595
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 2: going to be and they're dumbing it down or what.

1596
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what they did, but if they can

1597
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 2: have a good month, that will be great for everyone involved.

1598
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 2: And I'd like to see Jayden Daniels, Like you don't

1599
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 2: want to see him get hurt. I'd love to see

1600
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 2: him either I don't know, not play or play well

1601
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 2: because it has been a little bit of a story

1602
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 2: here when he's played this season, it hasn't gone how

1603
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 2: how they would like and it dan Quinn said they

1604
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 2: weren't lost anymore, they're lost again.

1605
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I.

1606
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 5: Think multiple things can be true here, which is they

1607
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 5: maximize to the to such an admirable length Jade and

1608
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 5: Daniels stellar rookie season, and then they waited too long

1609
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 5: and assumed that they could just return all of this

1610
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 5: and it would still continue to be this way.

1611
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 3: But football, as Patrick likes to say, it's a spheroid.

1612
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 5: And it bounces all different ways in terms of your

1613
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 5: injury luck, and especially has this year for the Commanders.

1614
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 5: And they got older along the way, and they got

1615
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 5: they got worse along the way, and they got more

1616
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 5: banged up along the way. And so it's kind of

1617
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 5: one of those this age old adages right in football,

1618
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 5: where do you wait until it's unquestionable that you need

1619
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 5: to rebuild lots of parts of this roster or do

1620
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 5: you do it before you get to that point and

1621
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 5: then hurt some feelings along the way. I think they

1622
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 5: chose the former, obviously, and now they're going to.

1623
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 3: Have to do some cleanup.

1624
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 2: And unfortunately they're going to be part of our lives

1625
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 2: because they're on a Saturday, big game for the Eagles.

1626
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,839
Speaker 2: There's two games against the Eagles remaining. They're on Christmas

1627
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 2: against the Cowboys. So we will be watching this Commander's team.

1628
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 2: We will be tracking them, and we will be saying

1629
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 2: thank you to the tag team of Claybonn and Jordan

1630
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 2: Rodrey jumping off the top rope and uh winning a

1631
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 2: WWE title. I don't know, thanks guys, No problem, Greg,

1632
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 2: Let's go to Las Vegas. Cookie's gonna be join us.

1633
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 7: Elbo Kelly's coverage.

1634
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 6: Shack for the Broncos five and a half SATs Now

1635
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:18,640
Speaker 6: for John Franklin Myers.

1636
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 4: Driving kick Mims on a gallop from the forty eight,

1637
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 4: Marvin in trouble, steps out of a tackle, and here

1638
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 4: we go. Marvin's zones play Straw Raider down the sideline,

1639
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 4: twenty fifteen.

1640
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 8: Ten five touchdown Marvin Mims.

1641
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 1: That was Dave Logan on KOA.

1642
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 2: When the offense isn't quite getting it done, there's a

1643
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:45,759
Speaker 2: whole third element of football, shook it counts, and Marvin

1644
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 2: Mims made a count with a big punt return touchdown

1645
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 2: that gave the Broncos a fourteen to seven lead against

1646
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 2: the Raiders. They win twenty four to seventeen in a

1647
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 2: game that didn't feel that close. It was twenty four

1648
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 2: to seven with just a couple of minutes left before

1649
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 2: the Raiders tacked on some points. Take it Care of

1650
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 2: business game by the Broncos. What did you find most

1651
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 2: interesting from the Broncos point of view in this one?

1652
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 12: I mean, Bononix is slowly but surely becoming more consistent.

1653
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 12: And we saw, you know, when they played Sunday night

1654
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 12: against the Commanders last week. It was an inverse bow

1655
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 12: next game where he was good early and didn't have

1656
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 12: a good fourth quarter. Well, he had pretty much a

1657
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 12: good game all throughout. They converted a number of third

1658
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 12: downs in this game. I mean they went on three

1659
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 12: different drives. This is crazy. Fourteen plays eighty one yards,

1660
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 12: six minutes and six or eight minutes and fifty four seconds.

1661
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 12: That's their first drive, touchdown drive. Then they go on

1662
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 12: a touchdown drive in the second half where it's fourteen

1663
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 12: plays eighty six yards and they take up nine minutes

1664
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 12: and thirteen seconds.

1665
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,440
Speaker 14: The last scoring drive took out ten minutes.

1666
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 12: And seventeen seconds, and it's because they were able to

1667
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 12: stay on the field by converting third downs.

1668
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 14: So I mean he was consistent throughout the game.

1669
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 12: He made a lot of good throws, sharp throws, a

1670
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 12: little bit you know, under pressure or needs to get

1671
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 12: it out, made a no look throw. Seemed like every situation.

1672
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 12: This is very typical of Raider games. But it felt

1673
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 12: good to watch the Broncos do this against them because

1674
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 12: you have so much you know, worry about how whether

1675
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 12: Knicks could be consistent or not. It's just every third down,

1676
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 12: every every situation, which you felt like they had him

1677
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 12: behind schedule. They might get a stop here, they didn't,

1678
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 12: and a lot of that was because Bo was finding

1679
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 12: guys open, giving them opportunities to catch and run and

1680
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 12: continue to drive.

1681
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 2: The Raiders are one of the most doa teams. Oh yeah,

1682
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 2: I've seen in a long time. And we'll get to

1683
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 2: the end of this game because it was hilarious. But

1684
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 2: to close the Broncos side of things, look, they have

1685
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 2: a sixty three percent success rate. I know it's against

1686
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 2: the Raiders, but that's what you got to do. Build confidence.

1687
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: RJ.

1688
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 2: Harvey had a crazy stat in this game that he

1689
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 2: had more successful runs or ten plays runs I believe,

1690
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 2: according to next Gen stats against an eight man box

1691
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 2: than anyone in the NFL since Dereck Henry years ago.

1692
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 2: And so you're seeing Derek, you know, RJ. Harvey getting

1693
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 2: it done on the ground and then you got your

1694
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 2: full back like Sean Payton style at Apprentice is getting

1695
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 2: off for a couple of plays and McLaughlin like those

1696
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,759
Speaker 2: are just things that you like to see because Harvey

1697
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 2: is going to be a really important piece for them.

1698
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 2: They have a really difficult final month this season where yeah,

1699
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,560
Speaker 2: you're the number one seed. Now you're really going to

1700
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 2: be tested down the stretch. You're going to need that

1701
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 2: running game.

1702
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 12: Yeah, this is your last tune up game, because it's

1703
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 12: good that you went out and took care of business.

1704
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 12: But the next four games in your schedule are all

1705
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 12: against playoff teams or teams that are in playoff contention.

1706
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 12: It's going to get real difficult, real quick, and you're

1707
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 12: gona have to be able to prove yourself. I do

1708
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 12: like the trajectory that the Broncos have been on as

1709
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 12: a team, including Bonnicks, just that they've been a little

1710
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 12: bit more consistent, a little bit not predictable, but more

1711
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 12: reliable than they've been for much of this season. I

1712
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 12: hope that it's a precursor of good things to come.

1713
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 12: We're going to find out very quickly. And again, the

1714
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 12: Raiders are not a measuring stick by any means, but

1715
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 12: some teams like the Broncos, who like to play with

1716
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 12: their foods, who once beat the Jets, what thirteen to eleven, over.

1717
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 1: Let's beat the Raiders ten to seven or whatever that.

1718
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 12: Horror FESTI because this was not a twenty four to

1719
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 12: seventeen game. This was a twenty four at best fourteen game.

1720
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 2: Okay, so Gino gets hurt late in the third quarter,

1721
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 2: I believe maybe like the last play, just about the

1722
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 2: third quarter, Kenny Pickett comes in and the Broncos, who

1723
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 2: only had six drives in this game. That's crazy. By

1724
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 2: the way, I've never seen a lower number, because I'm

1725
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 2: not counting the nil down at the end of the

1726
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 2: first half with three seconds left, they only finished with

1727
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 2: six drives.

1728
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

1729
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 2: They turn it over on downs and that whole time.

1730
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll is calling timeouts late in the game, after

1731
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett, you know, leads them to a touchdown drive

1732
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 2: with about two minutes and fifteen seconds left, He's calling

1733
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 2: timeouts to save time even though they're down two scores.

1734
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: They have no chance.

1735
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 2: I guess in theory they could have scored like immediately

1736
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 2: and then kicked an on side kick. But then they

1737
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 2: get the ball back. At this point, it's fifty eight

1738
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 2: seconds left. They're still trying to save as much time

1739
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 2: as possible, and they get a delay of game penalty

1740
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 2: on a throw from Picket which stops the clock with

1741
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 2: about five seconds left, And what does Pete Carroll do,

1742
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 2: Nick Chuck.

1743
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 14: He sends out the field goal team with four seconds left. Now,

1744
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 14: there's logic to this.

1745
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 12: You'd think, all right, you try the field goal now

1746
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 12: and try to get the on side kick. Except four

1747
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 12: seconds is the amount of time that it takes to

1748
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 12: kick a field goal. So as the ball goes through

1749
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 12: the uprights, Daniel Carlson starts to celebrate and then he

1750
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 12: sees that there's no time left in the clock and

1751
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 12: he does one of these half hearted like points to

1752
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 12: this guy like, ah, well, I guess we did just

1753
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 12: score on the last second of the game in a

1754
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 12: game that didn't matter.

1755
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: Sure, that is the all time back door cover.

1756
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,839
Speaker 2: If you were watching this game, to get a penalty

1757
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 2: where Pickett throws it down the field which stops the

1758
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 2: clock makes it easier, they could have maybe had time

1759
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 2: to spike it, maybe not to set up that field goal.

1760
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 2: But also just Pete Carroll just just trying to make

1761
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 2: his team look like they're competing and look better and

1762
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 2: have anything positive to say. That's why, my friends, it

1763
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 2: is dangerous to gamble, and why I'm glad, Nick Cook

1764
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 2: we are not allowed to do so. But I will

1765
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 2: remember this because I'm trying to win for the tenth

1766
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 2: straight week on my pick Show with Cynthia Freelan and

1767
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 2: I had the Broncos minus seven and a half, So

1768
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 2: that did hurt me.

1769
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 12: Oh bang in a big spot. You know, you can

1770
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 12: blame Brandon Jones for laying on the receiver and giving

1771
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 12: them that opportunity.

1772
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: What a stupid UH team. This Raiders team is just

1773
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 1: just wasting our time. Let's go to UH.

1774
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 2: A game that was not a waste of time despite

1775
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 2: it including two teams that will be picking high UH

1776
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 2: in April's draft.

1777
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,959
Speaker 15: Shudkins with white Heart in the backfield, two point conversion

1778
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 15: to tie back to Quinn shot, He's.

1779
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,640
Speaker 8: Gonna fake the reverse. He's got it and now he

1780
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 8: may throw.

1781
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 14: No, he reverses field.

1782
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 15: Now he throws it back all the other way to

1783
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,440
Speaker 15: the other side and it's incomplete.

1784
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 8: Oh my, what was that?

1785
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 5: No.

1786
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 2: I love Andrew Ciciliano. He's great when they win. He's

1787
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,719
Speaker 2: great even if they fall short on a wild play.

1788
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 2: But Bona insisted he wanted Ceciliano's call was the better call.

1789
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 1: That's what we do. W k RK. The Titans survive

1790
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 1: against the Browns.

1791
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 2: Everyone's got to get on Kevin Stefanski for that play call,

1792
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 2: but it would have worked right shook.

1793
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 1: I just think Judkins just didn't flip the ball.

1794
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 14: He just forgot.

1795
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 12: I think Judkins took that handoff. Well, it wasn't hand

1796
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 12: off as a snap to him because's in the wildcat. Yeah,

1797
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 12: and I had been doing They've been doing wildcat near

1798
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 12: the goal line a lot, especially in the last few weeks.

1799
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 14: They did earlier in this game, to limited success. I

1800
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 14: think it was actually lost him in the first time

1801
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:36,680
Speaker 14: they ran it.

1802
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 12: But I think he got the snap and took off

1803
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 12: to the right and just adrenaline took over and he

1804
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 12: completely forgot that he's supposed to pitch the ball in

1805
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 12: the reverse because he realizes that after the fact yep,

1806
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 12: and it's open on the back side. Doesn't work out.

1807
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 12: Of course, your rights, the fancy's gonna come under fire.

1808
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 12: It's those who are going to cherry pick criticism are

1809
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 12: going to look at judors stat line, which was solid

1810
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 12: twenty three or forty two, three hundred and sixty four yards,

1811
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 12: three touchdowns, and they're going to say.

1812
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 14: Why'd you take him off the field and then situation,

1813
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 14: I understand the call. It would have worked. It's not

1814
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:04,879
Speaker 14: about taking Chador off the field.

1815
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 2: There, How did Chador look in this game because you know,

1816
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 2: I see a you know, a screen pass pops for

1817
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 2: a big play in the game, but also, you know

1818
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 2: a nice throw that ends up being a sixty yarder

1819
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 2: to Jerry Judy.

1820
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:20,560
Speaker 1: Harold Fannin gets in.

1821
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 2: I thought the touchdown to in Djoku right early in

1822
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 2: the game, there was a one yard throw, but a

1823
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 2: nice toss and a really nice catch by in Joku

1824
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 2: was a sign of a quarterback making some plays.

1825
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 1: What do you think of Shadar and a losing effort.

1826
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, there were a handful of highlight throws.

1827
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 12: The one to Djoku was definitely one of them. Is

1828
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:42,640
Speaker 12: a difficult throw. He was kind of off balance and

1829
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 12: he put it in a perfect spot essentially between two defenders,

1830
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:46,719
Speaker 12: and the Joko makes a great diving catch.

1831
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 14: That's a positive.

1832
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 12: Another positive is the touchdown pass to Jerry Judy, not

1833
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 12: because he just threw a touchdown pass, but because he

1834
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 12: looked to his right and then came off of that

1835
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 12: point in his progression, moved to the next side, saw

1836
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 12: Judy coming open, and put it right on him where

1837
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 12: he could catch and run through the rest of the

1838
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 12: defense for a touchdown. It's a big boom for them

1839
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 12: because last week Judy and Shador were seen arguing on

1840
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 12: the sideline. So everything's all fine and dandy now because

1841
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 12: they hooked up for a sixty yard touchdown. Those were

1842
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 12: both two very good throws. The touchdown of fan and

1843
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 12: kind of came in a weird set of circumstances near

1844
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 12: the end of the game, so he had his moments.

1845
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 12: He also ran for a touchdown out of desperation, but

1846
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:21,560
Speaker 12: he also did the things that Shador has done in

1847
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 12: his start so far, which is hold onto the ball

1848
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 12: too long, take it unnecessarious, sack, throw a prayer of

1849
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 12: a pass into traffic over the middle when you're under

1850
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 12: pressure and you're already holding on to it too long.

1851
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 12: That ends up getting picked off and kind of swings

1852
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 12: the game in the Titans favor. So you take the

1853
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 12: good with the bad, and it's another very small step

1854
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 12: forward for him, I think.

1855
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 2: So the Browns lose this game in part because they

1856
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 2: just could not stop Tony Pollard on the ground. He

1857
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 2: finishes with a season best one hundred and sixty four yards,

1858
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:50,759
Speaker 2: and I feel bad We've had so few Titan highlights

1859
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 2: on this show that weren't just crazy. Cam Ward plays

1860
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 2: in a losing effort. They actually won this game. And

1861
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 2: I've put a big asterisk this whole season over that

1862
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 2: Cardinals win. If any win in the NFL does not

1863
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 2: count as a win, you know, they say a win

1864
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 2: is a win. I don't know if that Titans win

1865
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 2: over the Cardinals counts as a win. This counts as

1866
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 2: a win. So let's listen to a positive Titans highlight.

1867
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 10: A Conklow goes in motion, Pollard inside handle, twenty five,

1868
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 10: twenty good sorry, goodbye, good bye.

1869
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 8: That is a Titans touchdown, thirty.

1870
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 15: Two more yards for Tony Pollard, and the Titans had

1871
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 15: the lad back.

1872
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:30,640
Speaker 1: Back and forth they go, I mean this was a

1873
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 1: score fest. Thirty one to twenty one.

1874
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 2: Now was Taylor Zarzer and Dave McGinnis on wg f X,

1875
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 2: And it shakes up the top of the draft a

1876
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 2: little bit. Right now, the Titans fall out at the

1877
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 2: top spot and they are down to three. The Browns

1878
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 2: are at four. I think any chance to Fanski had

1879
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 2: to save his job. I don't think he has any

1880
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 2: chance to save his job anyways. I think he's I

1881
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 2: think he's out. But this is not gonna help give

1882
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 2: me something on the Titans that you like to see.

1883
01:27:57,479 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 14: I mean, I love the I.

1884
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 12: Love that Tony Pollard got going because I'm a big

1885
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 12: Tony Pollard guy, and I feel like he's been in

1886
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 12: a rough spot with them and they're inconsistent offensive line.

1887
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 12: He's making seven and a quarter a year, a million dollars,

1888
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 12: and I just feel like he hasn't gotten the opportunity

1889
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,600
Speaker 12: to really prove that he's worth that money. So it

1890
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 12: was great to see him pop off some big runs today,

1891
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 12: especially against a Browns defense that seemingly lost contained second level.

1892
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 12: Was a rough job for them, and so it's good

1893
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 12: for him to thrive. It was also a snowy day

1894
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 12: in Cleveland. Cam Ward only completed fifty percent of his passes.

1895
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,600
Speaker 12: He led a very impressive opening scoring drive where he

1896
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 12: hit Iomanna for a touchdown from fourteen yards out to

1897
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 12: give them an early lead.

1898
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 14: He handled the pressure of the job, I think pretty well.

1899
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 12: Ultimately, the Browns defense did cost some issues for him,

1900
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 12: so it was nice for Pollard to be that balance.

1901
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 12: But more than anything, I'm just glad the Titans played

1902
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 12: a complete game as a team. This is probably one

1903
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 12: of the best performances they've had this year, not just

1904
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 12: because it was only their second win. They just looked

1905
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 12: like a competent team, which is what I haven't been

1906
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 12: able to say that about them in a number of

1907
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 12: different games. And I feel good for guys like cam

1908
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 12: Ward who has too often been sent to the podium

1909
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 12: after a loss and had to explain why his team

1910
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:56,759
Speaker 12: is terrible.

1911
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 14: Today, you were not terrible. Congratulations Titans on the Yeah,

1912
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 14: it's been a brutal year.

1913
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:06,640
Speaker 2: Shout out to Jeffrey Simmons, who had eleven pressures in

1914
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 2: this game, one and a half sacks, actually two sacks.

1915
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 2: I don't count half sacks in my book. That is

1916
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 2: two sacks three quarterback hits. So he was the best

1917
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 2: defensive lineman in a game that included Miles Garrett, who,

1918
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 2: by the way, had the lowest pass rush win rate

1919
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 2: according to PFF of his entire career, no second lowest.

1920
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,719
Speaker 2: He only had one pressure, but it was a sack,

1921
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 2: so he moved forward in the race to break that

1922
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 2: sack record. He is three and a half away. It's

1923
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 2: gonna be tight, but he did get that one. Simmons,

1924
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 2: by the way, a couple run stuff too. He has

1925
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 2: been awesome, probably an All Pro this year, which is

1926
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 2: crazy considering he's on the Titans.

1927
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 1: Let's take one break. But Shook, you're staying with me.

1928
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 1: We're going to wrap up.

1929
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 2: I said at the top of the show, we had

1930
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 2: six massive games that would really shape these playoff races.

1931
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:53,600
Speaker 1: We got one more to go. It's Texans Chiefs.

1932
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 7: Ten for the Chiefs eighte. It's punch Mahomes to throw

1933
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 7: four man rush.

1934
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 13: Mahomes unloads downfield and chipped and intercepted this.

1935
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 8: He's al Shire has it up to deflection. Another pick

1936
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 8: for the game for Houston.

1937
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 13: Wow, Kelsea could not hang on as he's got it

1938
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 13: hot potato pick and the Texans have the ball in

1939
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:28,759
Speaker 13: Chiefs territory again.

1940
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 2: In that time, the Texans would take advantage with the

1941
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 2: game ceiling Kaimi Fairbairn field goal.

1942
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 1: The Texans win twenty to ten.

1943
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 2: That was Mark Vandermere on k I l t in

1944
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 2: what we might have seen tonight, Chuckie was the end

1945
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 2: of the Chief's dominance over this conference, at least for

1946
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 2: this season. But I wanted to start with that play

1947
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 2: because it's about a Texans defense performance to really top

1948
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 2: all of them that they've had this year. In the

1949
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,599
Speaker 2: fourth quarter of this game. The Chiefs had the ball

1950
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:11,519
Speaker 2: five times. They had one first down and that was

1951
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 2: in on the garbage time drive before they just spiked it.

1952
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:18,560
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes picked off three times. The balls just a

1953
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 2: little inside there, but Kelsey could have made the catch.

1954
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:23,719
Speaker 2: But he doesn't make the catch, and it's the Texans

1955
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:27,679
Speaker 2: who are Johnny on the spot. What a fourth quarter?

1956
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 2: It was the last fourth quarter I expected shook because

1957
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 2: at that point in the game, the Chiefs seem like

1958
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 2: they were rolling. And I guess this is just how

1959
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 2: it ends for great teams. And yes, the Texans maybe

1960
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 2: they could be a great team too. We know they

1961
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 2: have a great defense.

1962
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 12: Kind of reminds me of the way the Patriots lost

1963
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 12: their last playoff game that Tom Brady era right twenty

1964
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:52,600
Speaker 12: nineteen against Tennessee. I remember that being a similar I

1965
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:53,640
Speaker 12: don't know, I'll go out with a bit of a

1966
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 12: whimper instead of a shout or an actual fight.

1967
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:57,599
Speaker 14: Oh look, you're right.

1968
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,639
Speaker 12: The Chiefs were dominating the Texans offense in the third quarter.

1969
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 12: I mean, Nick Hayley seemed to have no answer for

1970
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 12: what Steve Spagnola was dialing up to the point where

1971
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 12: I'm watching it laughing like just chuckling out loud because

1972
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,679
Speaker 12: I'm thinking, how can you not anticipate these many blitzer

1973
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 12: that Steve Spagnola was going to send against your offense?

1974
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:12,639
Speaker 14: Adjust?

1975
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 12: Guess what they didn't need to adjust because their defense

1976
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:19,440
Speaker 12: took care of business, forcing Andy Reid into uncomfortable situations.

1977
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 12: Fourth down decisions they gotta go. They're deep in their

1978
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 12: own territory. Guess who doesn't get the first down? The

1979
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 12: Chiefs wide because they ran into the Texans fantastic defense,

1980
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 12: gives their offense to shortfield.

1981
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 14: They capitalize, and then they steal the deal. This is

1982
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 14: Texans football in twenty twenty five.

1983
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:37,520
Speaker 2: Baby, I'm glad you mentioned that Andy Reid made decisions

1984
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 2: that Andy Reid would not normally make. Yes, you could

1985
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 2: tell that they felt that they needed this, they needed

1986
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 2: to do something different, and the sequence you're talking about

1987
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 2: was so telling. They get a fourth and one situation

1988
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 2: was more like one and a half after Mahomes just

1989
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:58,759
Speaker 2: runs over a disase.

1990
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: I'll say here, if if I had.

1991
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 2: Just tackled Mahomes in the right spot they're punting there,

1992
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 2: I don't know how this game goes.

1993
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 1: But instead Mahomes kind of runs him over.

1994
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 2: He gets about a yard short, and they decide to

1995
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 2: go for it on their own thirty one yard line,

1996
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 2: but there's pretty quick pressure. The guys are ready on

1997
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 2: the interior, ready to stop Mahomes from possibly scrambling forward.

1998
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:25,799
Speaker 2: He steps up in the pocket, it's an incomplete pass

1999
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 2: and the Texans takeover. And I do want to point

2000
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:31,639
Speaker 2: out that sequence because you know what happened right after

2001
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 2: that is the Texans actually took advantage.

2002
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 1: CJ.

2003
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 2: Stroud pulled off a great third down conversion and then

2004
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 2: they ran the ball right down the Chiefs throats to

2005
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:45,640
Speaker 2: get the touchdown to go up seventeen to ten. So

2006
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:48,439
Speaker 2: as bad as the Texans offense looked for parts of

2007
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 2: this game, and you're right, they had negative yardage in

2008
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 2: the third quarter.

2009
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 1: It was one hundred and twenty eight yards to negative two.

2010
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:57,720
Speaker 2: They have had these little moments in the last six

2011
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 2: weeks where they look normal and they don't look fully normal.

2012
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 2: But in the first half of this game they put

2013
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 2: up two hundred yards that's pretty normal. And then in

2014
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter they at least had that one drive

2015
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 2: and they did get a couple first downs before the

2016
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 2: game ceiling field goal. Where they're just good enough and

2017
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 2: then they let their defense carry them the rest of

2018
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:14,720
Speaker 2: the way.

2019
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 14: Exactly.

2020
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:17,480
Speaker 12: Their offense is not going to be the most adaptable,

2021
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 12: the most versatile that you're going to see among teams

2022
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 12: that are fighting for a playoff spot this year. But

2023
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 12: that is fine because when you pair that, when you

2024
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 12: couple that with an elite defense like the Texans have

2025
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 12: this year, it doesn't matter. All you have to do

2026
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:29,679
Speaker 12: is buy them more opportunities and give them the short

2027
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 12: fields that they gave them tonight, and they're gonna be

2028
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 12: an ever game. Which is why I have a lot

2029
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 12: of confidence in the Texans. Why I think that this

2030
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 12: five game winning streak that they've put together is not

2031
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 12: a fluke. It is just indicative of a team that can,

2032
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 12: that has a defense that travels and can play with anybody,

2033
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 12: and it can shut down anybody. I mean, look, I

2034
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 12: know the Chiefs have been going through it this year, right,

2035
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 12: this has been a struggle field season for them. That's

2036
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:50,640
Speaker 12: how you end up at six and seven at this

2037
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:52,839
Speaker 12: point in the year. But I haven't seen their offense

2038
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 12: this flummixed. Travis Kelce, this just speechless, mystified, has no

2039
01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:00,560
Speaker 12: answer for what's going on. Patrick Mahomes looking this respondent

2040
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 12: and dare I say dejected by the end of this game.

2041
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 14: Maybe? Ever, that's what an elite defense can do to

2042
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:07,719
Speaker 14: a team like that in a big spot.

2043
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:11,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk a little bit about Jalen Petrie here.

2044
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 2: So in the first half of this game, the Texans

2045
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 2: play fantastic. They go into halftime leading ten to nothing.

2046
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 2: It was the first time Patrick Mahomes had been shut

2047
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 2: out since the AFC Championship Game three years ago, now

2048
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 2: first time in the regular season since twenty twenty one,

2049
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 2: and part of that was Jalen Petrie and one of

2050
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 2: the plays on defense of the season.

2051
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 13: Second and nine for the Chiefs from their thirty six

2052
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 13: But Checko in motion to the left as Mahomes takes

2053
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 13: the snap, looking firing over the middle.

2054
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 7: Tip down.

2055
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:51,599
Speaker 13: Petrie with the pick, a diving effort at the forty

2056
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:52,719
Speaker 13: five yard line.

2057
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:54,640
Speaker 8: Chips and overthrows.

2058
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 1: We gotta get those, and the Texans get it.

2059
01:35:58,439 --> 01:35:59,719
Speaker 8: The deflected interception.

2060
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 1: Great call.

2061
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 2: But when I think tips and overthrows, I think almost

2062
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 2: like a lucky tip over the middle. That was a

2063
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 2: great pass defense by Petrie to get it up in

2064
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 2: the air and then to track the ball and actually

2065
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 2: intercept it himself, diving like like a baseball player.

2066
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 1: There was incredible.

2067
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 2: And you think about that play, and then you think

2068
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 2: about the hit that he had on Rashid Rice in

2069
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 2: the second half. I know you were loving that. It

2070
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 2: looked like Rice might have caught that ball. It's a

2071
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:31,719
Speaker 2: first down to start the drive late in the third quarter,

2072
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 2: and he absolutely truck sticks.

2073
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:35,759
Speaker 1: Him so many good plays.

2074
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 2: I know you were loving this play, Schook, and I

2075
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 2: know you gotta be loving Petrie, who, to me, I

2076
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 2: think cemented an all pro slot position tonight with the

2077
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:45,880
Speaker 2: performance that he had.

2078
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 12: Absolutely nobody embodies this Houston defense, and there's swarm mentality

2079
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 12: more than Jalen Petrie.

2080
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 14: It's because of hits like that.

2081
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:54,640
Speaker 12: That is a clean throwback football hit made by a

2082
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 12: defender who's out to let you know that you're not

2083
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:00,679
Speaker 12: getting any three yards. I'm breaking up your pass attempt.

2084
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:02,880
Speaker 12: I'm gonna put you flat on the ground. You might

2085
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:05,720
Speaker 12: ragdall down to the ground like Rashee Rice did there.

2086
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 12: That's classic old school football. We don't see it nearly

2087
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:09,679
Speaker 12: as much as we used to, for better and for worse,

2088
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:12,600
Speaker 12: But tonight Petri set the tone with a hit like that,

2089
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 12: and I think you know, if anything, on the national stage,

2090
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:16,559
Speaker 12: Texans have been there a few times this year. They've

2091
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 12: been good in some spots, they've been bad in others. Tonight,

2092
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,599
Speaker 12: that hit alone sends the message that everybody's gonna remember

2093
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:23,680
Speaker 12: when they think of these Texans defense now, which is, oh,

2094
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:25,759
Speaker 12: we got to take them seriously. They must be respected

2095
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 12: because they can flatten us like that.

2096
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:29,640
Speaker 2: Well, you know who might have remembered it, You never know.

2097
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 2: Fourth down later in the fourth quarter, Mahomes knows the

2098
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 2: play is kind of collapsing and he finds Rashee Rice

2099
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 2: throws it a little early. It's a great throw, and

2100
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 2: Rashi Rice, like he's done a lot during this stretch run,

2101
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:47,720
Speaker 2: just drops it.

2102
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that the Jalen Petrie hit made him.

2103
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:53,599
Speaker 2: Drop it, but he dropped it, and I mean, yeah,

2104
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 2: like it just the culmination of having to play this

2105
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 2: Texans defense who's banged up at safety. But you think

2106
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 2: about the plays from the secondary. Kamari Lassiter with a

2107
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 2: great interception on what was kind of an arm punt

2108
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 2: by Mahomes in the second half to start that fourth quarter,

2109
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 2: Kamari Lassiter tracking down Taekwon Thornton on a deep shot

2110
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 2: where it looked like he was beat but great makeup speed.

2111
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 2: They just got playmakers up front, and so on a

2112
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 2: night where the Chiefs were short three offensive linemen, like

2113
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 2: obviously that played into Patrick Mahomes finishing fourteen for thirty three.

2114
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 1: It's I can't believe I'm looking at that number.

2115
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 2: That played into Patrick Mahomes going ten straight passes with

2116
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 2: an incompletion or an interception in the fourth quarter, like

2117
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 2: that was part of it. But man, uh Like, I

2118
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 2: just think the Texans defense puts so much pressure on

2119
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:49,080
Speaker 2: you just because of their talent, not because of their

2120
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 2: play calling necessarily, but because of their talent, and the

2121
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 2: Chiefs ultimately buckled.

2122
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 12: Yeah, and I can give credit on both sides here

2123
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 12: because I think that the offensive line absences, while they

2124
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:59,679
Speaker 12: were a problem, it didn't look that much different than

2125
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 12: what we seen from the Chiefs for good portions of

2126
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 12: this season.

2127
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 1: Play.

2128
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 12: The replacement at left packle I thought, did a really

2129
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:06,640
Speaker 12: good job for most of the night, much better than

2130
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 12: I anticipated that he would.

2131
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:10,599
Speaker 14: But you know, we've given the Texans all the credit

2132
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 14: in the world.

2133
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 12: Well, I'm also going to take a little bit of

2134
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 12: credit away, not intentionally, but just because this is one

2135
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:16,599
Speaker 12: of those games of the Chiefs, but they just didn't

2136
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:18,560
Speaker 12: make the plays they needed to make. This is the

2137
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 12: game where they didn't do the things that they've done

2138
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 12: so often over the last decade that has led them

2139
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 12: to success, that has led them to three Super Bowl tribes,

2140
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 12: to all these appearances in AFC title games, in winning

2141
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 12: the AFC West for a decade straight. They dropped passes

2142
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:35,839
Speaker 12: on fourth down, A lot of passes out of mahomes

2143
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 12: hand looked strange, a lot of nose diving out of

2144
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:40,680
Speaker 12: his hand tonight, which I think handered their ability to

2145
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:43,280
Speaker 12: complete some of those passes in key spots. He was

2146
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 12: a little bit inaccurate at times, didn't seem like he

2147
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 12: was entirely on the same page as some of this guys.

2148
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 12: You mentioned the interception off of Kelsey's hands that was

2149
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 12: a bit behind him, just uncharacteristic of him. So that

2150
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 12: explains that stat line. I'm not surprised to see that

2151
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:56,679
Speaker 12: stat line. But for those who have watched Patrick Mahomes

2152
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 12: over the course of his entire career, you'll look at

2153
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 12: Tonight's performing, You'll look at those numbers and go, God,

2154
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 12: what did they replace him with?

2155
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:04,200
Speaker 14: A body double? That's not who he is, and that's

2156
01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:05,600
Speaker 14: what the Texans defense can do to you.

2157
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:07,120
Speaker 1: And he was their leading rusher.

2158
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 2: They decided not to hand the ball off to Kareem

2159
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 2: Hunt in that key fourth down situation. Ultimately, the two

2160
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 2: Chiefs running backs both finished with under three and a

2161
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 2: half yards per carry Hunt and Pacheco, and that the

2162
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 2: defense and Chris Jones was up for the challenge to

2163
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 2: start the third quarter.

2164
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:24,639
Speaker 1: But I do go back to that CJ.

2165
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 2: Stroud throw to Jayden Higgins on third down where Chris

2166
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 2: Jones looks like he's gonna pull c J.

2167
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:34,439
Speaker 1: Stroud down, but c J. Stroud evades it gets the

2168
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 1: first down. Great throw.

2169
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 2: I thought just avoiding the sack would have been huge

2170
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 2: because they're trying to kick a field goal there, and

2171
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:41,600
Speaker 2: instead he gets the first down, they end up with

2172
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Speaker 2: a touch That's a big time play. And look, he

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Speaker 2: had eight straight incompletions at one point two. The conditions

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Speaker 2: were not good for throwing. It's freezing there, but he

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Speaker 2: had a good first half and he made enough plays

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Speaker 2: down the stretch to win it.

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Speaker 1: What a moment here in this season.

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Speaker 2: They are six and seven the Kansas City Chiefs, and

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Speaker 2: they are gonna need to win out, they're gonna need

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Speaker 2: to beat both teams in the AFC West, the Chargers

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Speaker 2: and the Broncos, to have any chance to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna need to get to ten and seven, and

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Speaker 2: they're gonna need to get help. There's not a lot

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Speaker 2: of reason to think they're gonna do all of that. Then,

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Speaker 2: I really felt like when you're watching Patrick Mahomes with

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Speaker 2: his hands on his head after one of those fourth

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Speaker 2: down fails, like a moment in time, in part because

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Speaker 2: the AFC is so deep this year, and I don't

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Speaker 2: know if teams like the Texans are gonna lose enough

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Speaker 2: for the Chiefs to catch up.

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Speaker 12: It's all about catching fire at the right time, and

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Speaker 12: the Chiefs they hit their stride for a brief period, but.

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Speaker 14: That feels like ages ago.

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Speaker 12: And I know it's shocking for us to consider a

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Speaker 12: reality in which we'd go into a postseason that doesn't

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Speaker 12: include the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 14: But everything changes eventually.

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Speaker 12: Nothing is forever in this league or in life, and

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Speaker 12: I think the Chiefs are realizing that right now with

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Speaker 12: everything that's happened. I'm not gonna count them out yet,

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Speaker 12: I'm not gonna bury it.

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Speaker 2: I know it's annoying. It is a little annoying, like

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Speaker 2: this felt final, and yet you look at it. They

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Speaker 2: are two losses behind the Texans, but now they're down

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Speaker 2: the tiebreaker. They're gonna really have to just win those

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Speaker 2: division games, win out. It seems unlikely, but they'll be

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Speaker 2: rooting Monday night while we're watching and doing our show.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna be live on YouTube this week, but

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Speaker 2: they'll be rooting against the Chargers because they need the

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Speaker 2: Chargers to lose some games here down the stretch. And

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Speaker 2: the Texans now at eight and five for now are

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Speaker 2: in the AFC playoffs, and they're looking at the other

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Speaker 2: team that's eight and five out of the wild card,

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Speaker 2: like the Colts, and they're thinking, hmm, that next Colts

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Speaker 2: game looking a little easier right now because of what

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Speaker 2: happened on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: The season is a long one. We thought this Texans

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Speaker 2: team was in deep trouble. They are full of badasses.

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Speaker 1: I'm so who can they.

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Speaker 14: Think, Greg, Who can they thank for getting back here?

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Speaker 14: Who started at all? Tell me right now, Davis Mills,

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Speaker 14: respect neck.

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Speaker 2: I know you were gonna say, Jordan rod reeg for

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Speaker 2: picking them to make the Super Bowl before the season.

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Speaker 2: It's still alive in this AFC. Every thing is still

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Speaker 2: alive before we go. You also want to know who's

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Speaker 2: a bunch of badasses. Eric Roberts deserve to go to

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Speaker 2: Buffalo and see his team win a big time game.

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Speaker 2: And so it really says a lot about Eric Roberts

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Speaker 2: that he left the show in the hands of a

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Speaker 2: very worthy group of men. It's not only Chris Babona

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Speaker 2: who is doing it tonight. It's it's Abu Kamara, It's

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Speaker 2: Devin Harris, like the whole group back there making it

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Speaker 2: run seamlessly. Maybe too seamlessly for Eric's hopes, you know,

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Speaker 2: but it shows that he's building a coaching tree here

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Speaker 2: and they can run a top shelf game, or at

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Speaker 2: least recap anytime he's gone.

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Speaker 14: Can a producer get wally pipped?

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Speaker 1: No, No, I don't like where this is gone. I

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Speaker 1: did it. I'm sorry. Hit the music. We're so overdue

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Speaker 1: to hit the music.

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Speaker 2: But yes, thanks to Devin and Aboo and Chris Babona

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Speaker 2: and of course Jordan Rodrigue and Patrick Clayban and my

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Speaker 2: man Shook. Like I said, we're gonna be recapping a

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Speaker 2: really fun Chargers Eagles matchup.

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Speaker 1: On Monday night. We're not going on YouTube this time around,

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Speaker 1: so check that out in the feed. Can't wait for it.

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Speaker 1: See that