Speaker 1: From my high school team. We have five guys make
Speaker 1: the NBA. We head the county Rocket gets some mecca
Speaker 1: of basketball. Here are those who come before us, upon
Speaker 1: whose shoulders we stand. It's nothing that you can do
Speaker 1: to stop the competitive and that's just in the water.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to a special quarantine edition. We got a
Speaker 1: real special guys. What's up with your Brodie with the
Speaker 1: virtual handshake? I'm gonna tell yall something that I never
Speaker 1: told no about it. I want to all the smoke.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to a special quarantine edition of All the Smoke.
Speaker 1: Jack's good, bro my brother? How you doing our the main? Man,
Speaker 1: I can't call it. It's ugly out here, raining, nasty,
Speaker 1: stuck in the house. What y'all gotta going to well mover?
Speaker 1: It's sunny out here. We just can't go in the
Speaker 1: where when yesterday fed the ducks and walked, took a
Speaker 1: little walk. I go get some bikes and something, take
Speaker 1: a ride around the neighborhood. But yeah, man, you best
Speaker 1: you can get. That's still. I just need a little
Speaker 1: bit of fresh air. What's up? What's your quarantine hair? Gray?
Speaker 1: Looking like you're looking like a slave. Nice like this?
Speaker 1: I was Eddie, Kay, let me see take take your
Speaker 1: hat off real quick. Oh oh yeah, you look like
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle when he played the comedian and nutty professor. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's time to ask I should struggle it too, if
Speaker 1: I should look like I should just be lame there.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I thought you was on happy days
Speaker 1: when you took that thing first off. Man, You see
Speaker 1: when it's just slip, but that that was kind of clean. Man.
Speaker 1: You gotta do the bones look sometimes and you see
Speaker 1: how click that should be bouncing back to life though.
Speaker 1: Yeah you got that. Yeah you got that ship down
Speaker 1: that you you anyway? Man, we got a special guest.
Speaker 1: So when I I've really enjoyed watching play playing against
Speaker 1: uh to me one of the best point guards in
Speaker 1: the game. Welcome John Wall. Go what's good? What's wrong
Speaker 1: with you? Man? Chilling man board watching all these NBA games, classics,
Speaker 1: watching movies, TV shows, ship like that. How's the family?
Speaker 1: How's the family holding up? They're good? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. You got a little one in the house,
Speaker 1: so he like want to get outside every day right
Speaker 1: around his little bike and run around. But other day
Speaker 1: he's just straight chilling. Talk to me about that because
Speaker 1: we got something of the same age. I got three
Speaker 1: of them. You got your first talk to me about
Speaker 1: having a son and how that just changed your life,
Speaker 1: man um dis perspective, and everything I do now that's
Speaker 1: for him, you know what I mean. Everything I see
Speaker 1: before is for myself and my my mom and them,
Speaker 1: But now everything I do it for him. Like I
Speaker 1: don't even hang out no more like that, Mike, pick
Speaker 1: one or two days out of every two weeks to
Speaker 1: hang with the guys. But I'm just I just had
Speaker 1: the opportunity to be injuried, so I got to watch
Speaker 1: him grow every day, you know what I mean, instead
Speaker 1: of being on the road and traveling. I wish I
Speaker 1: was playing, but just to watch him girl every day.
Speaker 1: And now he's fifteen months so he's telling me no,
Speaker 1: he telling me yes, he telling me thank you, He
Speaker 1: going downstairs to pick up the basketball. So that's all
Speaker 1: been a great blessing discouse with me. No, I know,
Speaker 1: that's amazing. Man. Like I said, I got the same
Speaker 1: I got a fifteen month old two he running running
Speaker 1: the house. I know you're loving that. You also told
Speaker 1: us before that you got another one on the way. Man. Congratulations. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, another little another little boy. Yes,
Speaker 1: he there you go. You're done. You're gonna, you're gonna
Speaker 1: try to get that girl. You're done straight. I ain't dripping,
Speaker 1: and I ain't trying. I keep trying to. I keep trying,
Speaker 1: smart man, smart man. If I keep trying shoot for
Speaker 1: that and I might be six seven in, I ain't
Speaker 1: trying to. You don't want to do this? How much
Speaker 1: you don't want to do that? Yeah, Jess with Jackson
Speaker 1: when you are jack I got seven five five girls,
Speaker 1: two boys, okay, three more? You got ahold two teams
Speaker 1: you play. I ain't gonna. I've been operations shut down.
Speaker 1: I've been operation that's been done. So with us men,
Speaker 1: Matt Win this media space now. And you know, when
Speaker 1: we were playing, the media used to twist our wards allow,
Speaker 1: used to make us seem like, you know, we were
Speaker 1: bad people and never really understood our passion for the
Speaker 1: game and just never really understood us. And I know
Speaker 1: you're dealing with your own side of that, with the
Speaker 1: media trying to twist it, make it seem like you
Speaker 1: and build don't get together, don't get along. I've been there.
Speaker 1: I've got love from both of y'a. At the same time,
Speaker 1: I've seen the brotherhood when I can, when you brought
Speaker 1: me out there for the games. I appreciate that again.
Speaker 1: But but talk about talk about that and how the
Speaker 1: media can try to twist your words or try to
Speaker 1: make you out to be something you not. Oh, I
Speaker 1: think you got too talented young guys man like one
Speaker 1: guy that's been there before, the other one that's like
Speaker 1: the franchise guy, another guy that come into just his talent,
Speaker 1: which its younger. We kind of already mentioned like we wanted.
Speaker 1: We both want to be started. People want to take
Speaker 1: the game when the shots. We both want to be
Speaker 1: talked about in the meet. We both want to be
Speaker 1: all this and all that. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, they always say, well they don't like each other.
Speaker 1: They did they downgrading each other, Like I ain't know
Speaker 1: John wall without Bradley Bill. Ain't no Bradley Bill without
Speaker 1: John Waller. We make each other better, like we accompandiate
Speaker 1: yours so well on the court that it works easy
Speaker 1: for us. So like when I see the media try
Speaker 1: to say or they don't like each other, where he
Speaker 1: playing better without him? The ball the team's eating everybody
Speaker 1: moving the balls moving all this well in the day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna play better when another star players not out
Speaker 1: there because you get more shots. Everybody's gonna give you
Speaker 1: the ball more like everything is predicated around you, and
Speaker 1: we don't. We wasn't winning games, so it wasn't good
Speaker 1: for us. Like Brad was like, yeah, I'm getting my numbers,
Speaker 1: I'm doing this, I'm doing that, but we're not winning games.
Speaker 1: Or when Brad is out for four or five games, Yeah,
Speaker 1: John Walt might take ten more shots and two or
Speaker 1: more shots and his numbers might go from twenty two
Speaker 1: a game and thirty two or thirty fourth to that stretch.
Speaker 1: But then my winning games or am I getting to
Speaker 1: the next level opportunity to get a chance win the
Speaker 1: championship one day? No, I can never succeed that unless
Speaker 1: I'm playing with my brother made Bradley Bill. So that
Speaker 1: didn't really bother me when people are saying that, I said,
Speaker 1: that's good because you know, because as players, we know
Speaker 1: the relationships we have with our brothers. And then sometimes
Speaker 1: that's one reason why we're glad we got this show
Speaker 1: because we we didn't have that platform we were playing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying when when When I when
Speaker 1: I got to that brawl, everybody talked about me going
Speaker 1: in the stands and punching their fan, but nobody never
Speaker 1: rewinded to tape and see me first getting the stands.
Speaker 1: I grabbed her on our test and another beer was
Speaker 1: thrown in his face, So it was only right I
Speaker 1: would act that way. But now we have the platform
Speaker 1: to highlight these things, and I'm glad you spoke on
Speaker 1: that because we have us as players. We know y'all
Speaker 1: relationship type, we know y'all brothers, and we know y'all
Speaker 1: want to rock with each other. Yeah, and that's what
Speaker 1: I try to tap anywhere, just to look back at,
Speaker 1: like y'all are I love that area? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Because I feel like that's what the league
Speaker 1: was really about. Like it weren't all about getting in
Speaker 1: the standard fight, but you were taking your brother. Somebody
Speaker 1: knowing something, your brother not gonna stand there and not
Speaker 1: help him out. And now days in this new league,
Speaker 1: you've got so many guys that the way they called things,
Speaker 1: you can't be fel cool, you can't touch everything. The
Speaker 1: flagging foul. Now if somebody say something to your brother,
Speaker 1: bump your brother. You try to stand up for him,
Speaker 1: you might be suspending three or four games, like and
Speaker 1: you're like, you're like, you're like, man day, but I
Speaker 1: was gonna get spent through four games. I'm outa threw
Speaker 1: a punch or something like. You tell so like when
Speaker 1: I so when I tell people all the time, I said,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, these young guys and all these
Speaker 1: people in his leading now is talent, don't get wrong.
Speaker 1: But I came in into the until you can still
Speaker 1: get clothes line, get bumped coming across that lane. If
Speaker 1: you breathe on somebody the wrong way, now you might
Speaker 1: be suspending on game. Like you take away from the
Speaker 1: physicality of the game, and it makes it so it's
Speaker 1: so hard for y'all guys that want to be physical
Speaker 1: definnis to be able to guard these guys. Yeah that
Speaker 1: you can't do it no more, you can't do it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny that you kind of caught the end,
Speaker 1: but we can't. Even when we came in and the
Speaker 1: jack jack you came in late nineties, I came in
Speaker 1: early two thousand's. It was more physical than that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. If they've steadily decreased the physicality
Speaker 1: of the game, and to me, almost the competitiveness of
Speaker 1: the game because you have to walk the egg shows
Speaker 1: you have to worry about Damn if I put just
Speaker 1: push someone, am I gonna get kicked out the game
Speaker 1: and jeopardize my team? You know? So it's it's it's
Speaker 1: a different it's just a different time now, and I
Speaker 1: think we kind of have to to understand the direction
Speaker 1: they're going. We talked about this with someone else as
Speaker 1: another guest, but you know, now it's all about scoring
Speaker 1: and all about offensive. It really favors the offensive players.
Speaker 1: They want to see three pointers, they want to see dunks,
Speaker 1: they don't want to see no good defense, they don't
Speaker 1: want to see those close ball games. They want to
Speaker 1: see highlights. And I think it's really taken away from
Speaker 1: the essence of the game. Yeah, for sure. Like my
Speaker 1: even when I first got into playoffs, so I think
Speaker 1: like four team fitting in my first year and we're
Speaker 1: playing the Bulls first round and play Indiana like it
Speaker 1: was the first team at eight points won the game.
Speaker 1: Right now, it's like teams got eighty a half, like
Speaker 1: I was in one game we played Scramento this year,
Speaker 1: they had eighty seven and a half. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: this is this is if you got eighty seven, you're
Speaker 1: about to win the games. You have to make a
Speaker 1: couple of free throws at the end, right. So, like
Speaker 1: you said, you just got to adapt to what the
Speaker 1: new NBA wanted, what the world wants. We want to
Speaker 1: back up a little bit. Um, you guys played Utah
Speaker 1: uh February and uh probably a week after that, almost
Speaker 1: ten days after that, the league was shut down because
Speaker 1: of uh, you know, Rudy Gobert contracting the virus. Do
Speaker 1: what was the energy and the vibe? Like once you
Speaker 1: guys kind of heard that and realized you guys you're
Speaker 1: as a team hadn't played him that long ago. Well,
Speaker 1: when you get that and you start realizing how serious
Speaker 1: the virus was, you kind of thought like, oh man,
Speaker 1: everybody has to get tested, Like even me. I wasn't playing.
Speaker 1: I was on a beach. But like you know, when
Speaker 1: you interact with players dapping the month throughout the game
Speaker 1: or sad it up after the game. So you're all like, okay,
Speaker 1: take that focus of where have you been recently? Who
Speaker 1: have you been around? And me not having a young son,
Speaker 1: I'm like, well you definitely have to get tested and
Speaker 1: make sure you don't have it, and make sure you're
Speaker 1: not passing long because at the time they were saying
Speaker 1: if you were elderly, older, or your immune system was
Speaker 1: up to bar strong enough, or you got a little baby,
Speaker 1: they got it. It's very ready and can fight it.
Speaker 1: So that's all I'm thinking about now in that aspect
Speaker 1: of making sure my family was straight, and then where
Speaker 1: about myself after words? Because I feel like me is
Speaker 1: a healthy athlete and young I can fight it more
Speaker 1: than what a baby could. Talk to me a little
Speaker 1: bit about your work in DC in the community. I
Speaker 1: think it's something that goes unsung, but you really do
Speaker 1: a lot for that community. You're an advocate for the
Speaker 1: other teams, the baseball team, you you cheer on the
Speaker 1: w NBA team, you're at the games, but you really
Speaker 1: give back a lot. And I don't think we hear
Speaker 1: enough about that. Could talk to us a little bit
Speaker 1: about what you're doing in the community. UM, I just
Speaker 1: have a have a place that I adopted called Bright Beginning.
Speaker 1: It's just like a place for like single moms that
Speaker 1: like don't have jobs and their kids and have opportunity
Speaker 1: to go to school, so we get them somewhere where
Speaker 1: they can live or they can they parts near the
Speaker 1: opportunity to go get a job, get some money putting
Speaker 1: their pocket and their kids and go get a degree.
Speaker 1: I work towards the education. So that's big something I
Speaker 1: looked at because I like, I never had that as
Speaker 1: a platform going up. And I see so many homeless
Speaker 1: people out here, and sometimes these kids never actually be
Speaker 1: in a situation, but that's just what they're born and
Speaker 1: they can't control, so why not try to help them?
Speaker 1: But one thing I always instill to myself and my
Speaker 1: mom help as a young kid, like if you ever
Speaker 1: want to be something like that, like let people remember
Speaker 1: you of what kind of person you are, just not
Speaker 1: as a basketball player. So like a lot of people
Speaker 1: like have these camps and do these charity events and
Speaker 1: get back, but they never present and I'm like, what's
Speaker 1: the point, Like let these people feel like the you're
Speaker 1: normal just like them. So I like to be there
Speaker 1: through if I got event from seven hours, I'm different
Speaker 1: seven hours and interact and showing I'm normal like you.
Speaker 1: Anybody can throw any money or put their name on
Speaker 1: any little event or charity being like well, y'all did donate, well, okay,
Speaker 1: you donated, but sometimes these kids and these parents might
Speaker 1: not never get to see NBA player or a superstar
Speaker 1: in a city. And that's what I probably myself off of, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the money is cool to get in there, but that's
Speaker 1: not what I'm doing it for. I'm doing it for
Speaker 1: to show these people that I'm normal just like them.
Speaker 1: And if you come from a Section eight or in
Speaker 1: a struggle situation, you can make it. You just gotta
Speaker 1: believe in yourself. I love that. Man, that's beautiful. We
Speaker 1: appreciate that. And like I said, it's it's always you
Speaker 1: know what the bada rather tell that story? Would they
Speaker 1: rather tell the story that you're beef or they're they're
Speaker 1: making fake beef up about you and your team? Make
Speaker 1: So that's why I like Jack touched on it earlier. Man,
Speaker 1: we need platforms like this, having social media on our
Speaker 1: own to not so much because you don't do it
Speaker 1: for the recognition, but just to know that there we
Speaker 1: are doing good things out there. And when you know,
Speaker 1: the majority of time the media just wants to point
Speaker 1: the bad ship out. Oh yeah, in fact, they're definitely
Speaker 1: gonna pick the bad stuff out of everything. So like
Speaker 1: I always tep home where they're like, well, you don't
Speaker 1: be doing this. You know that I said, I don't
Speaker 1: do stuff for the I don't need it for the cameras.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of stuff I did in the community,
Speaker 1: I never did it for the camera. Like good thing
Speaker 1: is like my team and my team have around me
Speaker 1: and my Wizards organization. They wanted to put me out
Speaker 1: there on that platform and let people see what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: But for me, I was doing it for years, backpack
Speaker 1: giveaway for years and never was really talked about. But
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if the camera show but not because
Speaker 1: these kids getting supplied, they getting booked bads to go
Speaker 1: to school and they get to hang out with John
Speaker 1: wal for a couple hours. So that was straight for
Speaker 1: me and to touch on what we're going next. You
Speaker 1: remind me kind of that guy that I'm about to
Speaker 1: ask you about. You know what I'm saying you, They
Speaker 1: twitsched you. They don't know all the all the love
Speaker 1: you get in the neighborhoods and and the love you
Speaker 1: give back to the community. But Ai, you know you
Speaker 1: you talked about how you looked up to him. You
Speaker 1: got in the a our stories that you can give us.
Speaker 1: Man him, Yeah, man, my favorite story of all time,
Speaker 1: like is when I was coming out, you feel me
Speaker 1: like everybody loved George. Everybody love all this when you
Speaker 1: come out of getting shoe deals and then want pick
Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, Reebok off of your deal.
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, cool wearing reboxes. I but you
Speaker 1: know me at this time and I air with social
Speaker 1: media it is I want to be in George and Nikes.
Speaker 1: And then I remember I was in Reebok. I went
Speaker 1: to take my visit there like to talk to him,
Speaker 1: and he y'all showed up, came out of nowhere talking
Speaker 1: to me for like talking to me for like two hours.
Speaker 1: He was like, let's here, man, I know what you're
Speaker 1: going through. I know what you decide. And because I
Speaker 1: was the same person in them shoes coming out of
Speaker 1: Georgetown where my George doing all this. But he was like,
Speaker 1: why do I change the coachure? Like why not be
Speaker 1: yourself and start something in your own way? So once
Speaker 1: he said that, like I didn't even have he didn't
Speaker 1: even have to walk me upstair. You can bring the
Speaker 1: paper down here, I'm signing like my like like my
Speaker 1: my Ida just came and talk to me and told
Speaker 1: me a reason why I can go this way and
Speaker 1: start them on rever Do, and they wanted me to, like,
Speaker 1: you know, rebot wasn't the same, and they just wanted
Speaker 1: to start open and see if they can build it
Speaker 1: back up, which is tough the way they business. But
Speaker 1: outside that, I was the reason why I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sign these papers forget what anybody else talking about.
Speaker 1: So that was so that was like my dopest story
Speaker 1: for me, you know what I mean, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: every time you see ay now he grabbed your back
Speaker 1: in head and love you, You're like, nobody want to say,
Speaker 1: come on, you're doing too but like I'm grown man,
Speaker 1: like you gotta keep grabbing. He still do that to me.
Speaker 1: He still doing but he like still yeah so and
Speaker 1: and I seem to do to everybody. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, you can't. Who can you say? Like you
Speaker 1: know you got older vests and you he doing this too.
Speaker 1: But that was just a dupe story for me. That
Speaker 1: made me be like, you know what I got respected
Speaker 1: from from my item, you know what I mean? That
Speaker 1: that's all I really cared about the time being. That's
Speaker 1: what's something. Man. So you came up in a in
Speaker 1: a single parent household, your mom worked multiple jobs to
Speaker 1: to support you and your siblings. Uh, and you went
Speaker 1: through something that I went through, man, which was the
Speaker 1: toughest thing I personally ever had to go through. I
Speaker 1: lost my mom to cancer in in in two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven. And really that was that was when you know,
Speaker 1: I would say, that's when Jack and I really we're
Speaker 1: already teammates. We fund with each other off the rip.
Speaker 1: But this dude was here from me every single day. Man,
Speaker 1: come to my house, check on me, called me, come
Speaker 1: smoke with me, bring me weed, bring me food. He
Speaker 1: was just there for me, man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So obviously condolences and rest in peace to your mom.
Speaker 1: Talked to us a little bit about that and and
Speaker 1: and how that affected you. It affected life as a whole,
Speaker 1: because to me, the pain never goes away. You just
Speaker 1: learned how to deal with it a little better each day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: talk to us about that. Well, that was like the
Speaker 1: toughest for me anyway, you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 1: my best friend, Like I always talked to three four
Speaker 1: seven times a day, and all that so like when
Speaker 1: she was going through the whole process, it was just
Speaker 1: like damn, man, like you know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: hoping she can beat this because I lost my dad
Speaker 1: from cancer when I was nine, so I kind of
Speaker 1: already knew how that route goes. And then it's like
Speaker 1: after my twenty twenty nine birthday, man, and she just
Speaker 1: started to get real more and more sick, like couldn't
Speaker 1: move and I had to stand there. My mom is
Speaker 1: one of those moms that, like, you know, get up
Speaker 1: five am, six am doing everything, everything is already done
Speaker 1: for you, go to school, what she go to work.
Speaker 1: So when I started sitting again week and week, I
Speaker 1: try to spend as much time as I could with
Speaker 1: it every day or every time she came in town
Speaker 1: for a keymo or anything like that, just understanding that
Speaker 1: there's getting more serious now that she might not make it.
Speaker 1: And I remember she came to my birthday party and
Speaker 1: we had a blast and all that, and it was
Speaker 1: like the last time you see my mom smiling, and
Speaker 1: I posted my pictures, So I did that. I started
Speaker 1: to get tougher and tough and I'm like still trying
Speaker 1: to go through my rehalf, but also make sure I
Speaker 1: spend much time with my mom because I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is it or not. And I remember I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna come down there right after this
Speaker 1: and we play. We're about to play Charlotte, and it
Speaker 1: was like I think a Monday, we're gonna play Charlotte.
Speaker 1: And I was like, yo, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: come down and play Charlotte. After the game, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stay to night drive the I'm gonna see my mom
Speaker 1: for like seven eight days. We get out the plane,
Speaker 1: I land, I get back to I get to my
Speaker 1: hotel and I get a call like she had um.
Speaker 1: She had passed earlier that day but came back to
Speaker 1: life like they they pumped her back to life. And
Speaker 1: then she's on like a bent leke machine and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh no, this crazy is over. Like I asked one
Speaker 1: of my homeboy they lived in Charlotte, and he drove
Speaker 1: me straight like straight. Riley's like a three hour drive.
Speaker 1: I strove straight down and like just to see my
Speaker 1: mom on the on the bed. It's just it was
Speaker 1: definite thing. So like I passed out of fainting and
Speaker 1: then I'm like, yo, this really might be the last
Speaker 1: the last couple of days, I get to pee my mom.
Speaker 1: So literally every day from that day before, I never
Speaker 1: left the hospital, took showers in there, and spent the
Speaker 1: night in there, and it was just tough to see her.
Speaker 1: But she kept fighting and fighting and fighting and fighting.
Speaker 1: Like and this is why I tell you what, Like
Speaker 1: people say they don't know our relationship between me and
Speaker 1: Brad because everybody was like, well, y'all don't get along,
Speaker 1: y'all don't like bro. When I got the phone called,
Speaker 1: the first person that came out of my hotel room
Speaker 1: the hang out with me was Brad like, come to
Speaker 1: hold me, like like, yo, you're my brother, Like what
Speaker 1: you're going through, I'm going through. And after they played
Speaker 1: that game again, and after they played the game against
Speaker 1: Charlotte they lost, Brad didn't even get on the team playing.
Speaker 1: He drove down to be with me in North Carolina
Speaker 1: for the next two or through. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So like I told to me that, like y'all think
Speaker 1: y'all know our situation, But he ain't had to do
Speaker 1: none of this had just been a teammate, it's bigger
Speaker 1: than who it could have been a teammate, and brother
Speaker 1: and be like you know what, man, he are, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call on them leading now. He came to check
Speaker 1: on me, see my mom and like that this basketball
Speaker 1: stuff in tomorrow. We never fled again. Like that's gonna
Speaker 1: be somebody I called my brother because he was there
Speaker 1: in the time when I was there. So yeah, like
Speaker 1: that was that was like the most difficult and still is.
Speaker 1: And like one thing that helped me is we got
Speaker 1: a guy to do chapel for his name passed the
Speaker 1: battle and I want to talk to him. My mom
Speaker 1: was real sick before she passed, and I was like, um,
Speaker 1: how do you get through it? Like how do you
Speaker 1: get any comfort? Like you know, you don't really feel comfort,
Speaker 1: You're always gonna feel that pain, but like you at
Speaker 1: peace with her leaving. And when he talked to me
Speaker 1: like that and I want to talk to my mom
Speaker 1: one on one before she passing, did all that I
Speaker 1: knew she fought as much she becauld she was happy
Speaker 1: and she was like I'm at peace, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1: That made it more easy for me to set my
Speaker 1: mom going even though you still had those pains and
Speaker 1: every day about it. Man, that's the that's the exact
Speaker 1: same situation because my mom was diagnosed November one and
Speaker 1: died November twenty seven, so within twenty six days. So
Speaker 1: I was in Golden State with Jack and the rest
Speaker 1: of the squad, and I was back and forth constantly
Speaker 1: sacramented to the bay. And I remember the last day, Um,
Speaker 1: we were playing the Phoenix Suns and I I had
Speaker 1: been I had missed practice, and you know, she kind
Speaker 1: of saw I was aunty, but I was still spending
Speaker 1: time with her, talking to her and everything. She's like,
Speaker 1: you know, baby, go play your game. Your team need you, um,
Speaker 1: and then just come back after. So I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, So man, I drove straight to the game, like,
Speaker 1: didn't have shoot around, didn't do whatever. Everyone already knew
Speaker 1: the deal. Played played well. I think we beat Phoenix
Speaker 1: in either a single overtime or double overtime. Had a
Speaker 1: really good game. I hit it when I got done,
Speaker 1: like a mouth that you know, you did a good job. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, get some rest, come see me in the morning.
Speaker 1: And she died like four am that morning before I
Speaker 1: got a chance to get back over there and see her.
Speaker 1: But you know, to know that, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I got to have my nights with her and talk
Speaker 1: to her, and she was at peace. You know, she said, baby,
Speaker 1: I'm tired, you know what I mean, she had been fighting.
Speaker 1: She gave me the advice to you know, look over
Speaker 1: my brother and my sister, my dad. She she gave
Speaker 1: me all the game and then she know, I just
Speaker 1: knew she was once she you know, she can kind
Speaker 1: of let go. She was going to be in a
Speaker 1: better place because she was so tired. She was in
Speaker 1: so much pain and she just been handled it no more.
Speaker 1: So it's funny that you said that because I had
Speaker 1: to come with to come to peace with her being
Speaker 1: at peace about it, which is like damn, Like she's
Speaker 1: at peace with letting go. So I had I had
Speaker 1: to be strong and do that. So it's a tough
Speaker 1: thing to go through. Man. Yeah, that and that's the crazy,
Speaker 1: like you don't think like those little talks to that
Speaker 1: one on one and I mean so much, but for
Speaker 1: there to be like you, I'm tired, I'm at peace,
Speaker 1: It's like why why would I want her to suffer
Speaker 1: and keep fighting? I mean, I'm not the one that
Speaker 1: got to be in that body. So you kind of
Speaker 1: accept it, but you're still like godly like my best
Speaker 1: friend my mom gone. So for me, like I had
Speaker 1: my dad for nine years in my life and most
Speaker 1: of the time he was in jail most of my
Speaker 1: life and my mom for twenty nine so it's like
Speaker 1: I know what it like not to be on both
Speaker 1: ends and I have either one. So like, that's my
Speaker 1: main goal is seeting that aspect. I think quick things
Speaker 1: to be taking away. So that's why I tried to
Speaker 1: change as much moment as I can with my son. Right,
Speaker 1: So absolutely it changed your focus. Then you got a
Speaker 1: dear Mama tattoo on your back foot to honor her, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got dear Mama tat my back. And then it's crazy,
Speaker 1: I got like your Mama's boy on my chest, like
Speaker 1: one of my first tattoos I got because I'm always
Speaker 1: everybody always calling me a mom's boy. So then when
Speaker 1: she was going through the cancer and I'm just seeing
Speaker 1: her fighting and I'm like, yo, like I just like,
Speaker 1: dear Mama was just so dope to me, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: my mom would always had my back and always be
Speaker 1: watching over me. So that's why I put on the
Speaker 1: back of my neck. That's what it's dope. That's dope.
Speaker 1: In eighteen, you started pursuing your bachelor's degree. Uh, talk
Speaker 1: about that. You're still doing it. You still taking classes
Speaker 1: while you quarantine, you know why you're rehabbing. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was a promise you made your mom right there. She
Speaker 1: was gonna go back and get get your degree. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's crazy because, like before I got on a
Speaker 1: call with you all to day, I was just talking
Speaker 1: to my administrator from my school, like picking my my
Speaker 1: classes and my fall classes. So that's just crazy that
Speaker 1: y'all even bring it up. But like I was supposed
Speaker 1: to do exam when my mom was going through, she
Speaker 1: went through it was about to pass. I was like, yea,
Speaker 1: take it like a like a month off and didn't
Speaker 1: find my ZAM. So I finally got through that is
Speaker 1: ZAM for my last semester and passed that. So now
Speaker 1: I'm going to get my classes for summer school. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna do that. And like my my ultimate
Speaker 1: goals even pushed even further to try to take as
Speaker 1: many classes more than I came to get it quicker,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like when I got my
Speaker 1: when I went into the Hall of Fame, it was dope.
Speaker 1: Because my mom was there and like when of the
Speaker 1: last time, she was very like I got to go
Speaker 1: back to Kentucky and see me, so like, do you
Speaker 1: know I got put into all the family. You'll probably
Speaker 1: see my speech where I broke down and talked about it,
Speaker 1: like all that all that was dope to me because
Speaker 1: she got to witness that. So like to see my
Speaker 1: first son born, to see me going to Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: and see me play eight to nine years in the league.
Speaker 1: Like and the only thing that really irks me to
Speaker 1: this day is you know you probably pul the same man.
Speaker 1: It's like did I do enough? Like did I make
Speaker 1: my mom happy? Like that's the only thing that'd be like, Yo,
Speaker 1: did I have enough fun with my mom? Did I
Speaker 1: do enough? And I have a dope assistance and always
Speaker 1: be like, yo, you ever, don't ever question and stuff
Speaker 1: and think about that because just go back and watch
Speaker 1: the pictures and seeing your mom smile and see that,
Speaker 1: Like I got to take my mom so that that
Speaker 1: kind of clears my mind a little bit. And then
Speaker 1: like I got I put a picture uh me and
Speaker 1: my mom at the White House corresponded then like she
Speaker 1: got to meet Michelle and Brock, so like to take
Speaker 1: my mom and there that lets me know I did
Speaker 1: something special. So like, but yeah, I'm definitely going back
Speaker 1: to get that degree, though I'm pushing very hard for that.
Speaker 1: I love that, I was telling the crew before we
Speaker 1: got on the air today. I went back and watched
Speaker 1: games six of the We Believe season when we beat
Speaker 1: Dallas in the clinching game and this mother fucking Jack
Speaker 1: is on fire and I hit him with one of
Speaker 1: his I think I hit him with like his assistant.
Speaker 1: He hit his six three pointer. Dallas called the time
Speaker 1: out and somehow that the camera I had, Like I said,
Speaker 1: I had never seen the game. I was watching the
Speaker 1: T n T feed that can't pinned right to my
Speaker 1: mom and the crowd, and she was up jumping around screaming,
Speaker 1: hands above her head, and I'm like that she gave
Speaker 1: me instant hills, like just what are the chances at
Speaker 1: a twenty thousand people in the arena? Jack was the
Speaker 1: motherfucker to hit the shot. I don't even hit the shot.
Speaker 1: They just happened to pay on my mom and dad
Speaker 1: and go past them. And I'm like, damn, that ship
Speaker 1: is crazy. Like I was. I was his Bradley Bill.
Speaker 1: I was I was his dog for real. You know,
Speaker 1: Jack and I became brothers, man, Like he was there
Speaker 1: every single day talking, doing whatever you need and you
Speaker 1: need that. That's why you know when it when it happened,
Speaker 1: I hit you, I hit you like bro, but you
Speaker 1: know whatever you need, you want to talk because I
Speaker 1: kind of found that, like you talking about it helped.
Speaker 1: At first, I was closed off to the world, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I tried to play a day
Speaker 1: after I was closed off quiet, But then when I
Speaker 1: started opening up and talking, I really felt like I
Speaker 1: kind of started to heal a little bit and share
Speaker 1: the good memories and the fun times. And that's what
Speaker 1: Jack was there for. Man. We would just chop it up,
Speaker 1: and it really helped me have a different outlook. All
Speaker 1: look still hurt. It just gave me a different perspective
Speaker 1: on ship. Yeah, definitely gonna be always to be hurt.
Speaker 1: But like you said, they're being able to talk about
Speaker 1: it has somebody can talk to and you can tell
Speaker 1: it like kind of buying y'all have you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Even just by the show, but I'm seeing
Speaker 1: y'all before this, how y'all bond like you could tell
Speaker 1: that blond ain't fake, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: that's one thing like we're saying Jack, when when you
Speaker 1: was fixing your scream. Man, is like certain things to
Speaker 1: be so fake these days, man, Like people want to
Speaker 1: be cool with people for a certain reasons. To be
Speaker 1: talked about the cloud chasing, like you could tell when
Speaker 1: it's genuine loved there and that's when that's when it
Speaker 1: all matters to me. It's cool to keep it moving,
Speaker 1: But when it's genuine love, you're gonna know. Man, You're
Speaker 1: gonna know what something you don't know, you're gonna know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we all everybody in his life, we all normal. We
Speaker 1: all gonna go through tough times, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And tough times don't last last is long. May make
Speaker 1: you strong as you're gonna be so, I mean, like
Speaker 1: you said, having some people you can talk to, somebody
Speaker 1: around and makes it so much better. That's what's up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's jump back to college, man, because you had the
Speaker 1: motherfucking legendary career, legendary teammates, legendary coach. Tell me what
Speaker 1: that experience is. Because Jack went straight to the league,
Speaker 1: but I went to U C. L A and it
Speaker 1: was the best time in my d You want to
Speaker 1: dumb as you but you never get really which I
Speaker 1: can panther themn tess, Bro, you ain't telling me nothing.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know a lot of people that
Speaker 1: go over seas, but that ain't right. But that one
Speaker 1: thing I would say, though, Jackie, if you ever had
Speaker 1: the opportunity, Bro, that would have been your best time ever.
Speaker 1: Man Like for me, I knew I was going for
Speaker 1: eight months, you know what I mean. But like I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm here to win the championship. I don't win it cool,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna have this most fun never and being
Speaker 1: able to go to class and get up and grind
Speaker 1: every day. Man like we had. Bro. When I tell
Speaker 1: you coach college, when the crazy coach act, like two weeks,
Speaker 1: I see you. I think I picked the one school
Speaker 1: I want to transfer. She was like, she was like, boy,
Speaker 1: you stay like this. Every morning we had to be
Speaker 1: on the suicide line. We had twenty suicide and twenty
Speaker 1: minutes at six am. Every day was summer school. So
Speaker 1: like our first ten suicide is like the basic one
Speaker 1: free throw line. Then the last ten was baseline baseline
Speaker 1: other free throw line like, and I'm like, yo, did
Speaker 1: I like this is not basketball? And then want yeah
Speaker 1: type thing. So I'll tell you when the funny stories is.
Speaker 1: We run the suicide. We got like four left and
Speaker 1: like the guards had to finish, like Biggs had to finish,
Speaker 1: like thirty the markets feet caught on fire, like he said,
Speaker 1: he stopped running like he really he made suicide. He
Speaker 1: made suicide. He runs to the sideline to my quick,
Speaker 1: man quick, like my feet burn, and I ain't doing
Speaker 1: it the more because would be he would want to
Speaker 1: be all billy. So he was like, you know what
Speaker 1: if he would have finished the suicide, I didn't give
Speaker 1: you all the morrow off. No, he wasn't gonna give
Speaker 1: us more of just trying to use. So we got
Speaker 1: suicide to this morning man the market sitting at a
Speaker 1: half court. He ain't got a runk. You know the
Speaker 1: reason why we gotta run to there. He's sitting in
Speaker 1: at half court, no running. We all look at him like, yo,
Speaker 1: we gotta jump him after this because there's no way
Speaker 1: we got run suicide and he ain't got a run.
Speaker 1: But we don't want to beating the markets up back then.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like Jack that that school man, it was
Speaker 1: the most fun ever, man, just being able to prepare
Speaker 1: every week, having maybe two or three games, and the
Speaker 1: most fun with me was going on the road, Like
Speaker 1: you don't get you don't get that atmosphere and that
Speaker 1: that coach they brought were talking trash and it's just
Speaker 1: you and your your fourteen guy and you're going out
Speaker 1: there to go to battle and go to war and
Speaker 1: it's like, you gotta win a survive out here. Ain't
Speaker 1: nobody on your side, and you know, Kentucky fans travel,
Speaker 1: but it feels like, yeah, it still didn't feel like
Speaker 1: a home game because the way they were treating but
Speaker 1: it was dope. Man. You couldn't ask for nothing better.
Speaker 1: And like everyone, for me being then one pick, I
Speaker 1: wanted to go back to school just to win the
Speaker 1: national championship, just to get that atmosphere and that like
Speaker 1: fun and high sight and it was tell me about
Speaker 1: what that team was like because you played with a
Speaker 1: lot of NBA players in college, Like your team was
Speaker 1: rock star status, you know. I mean that's when social
Speaker 1: media just started hitting, like y'all was the ship you
Speaker 1: bled bogie? Like what was that? Like? It was man,
Speaker 1: Like we stayed in the Wildcat Lodge, and like we
Speaker 1: walked outside our building where we stayed in the practice.
Speaker 1: That's why I can't live. It's like where the players stayed,
Speaker 1: but we we gotta let like teen regular students stay,
Speaker 1: so the like you get extra benefits. It's like where
Speaker 1: we stay, like having an apartment, so we had like
Speaker 1: a game room and all that in there. But like
Speaker 1: from here to like ten steps, it's like what we
Speaker 1: practiced that, but it would be like sixty seventy cars
Speaker 1: and people wave autographs every day and we couldn't get
Speaker 1: away from them. So we're like, yo, we can't even
Speaker 1: want the class. But I so like we started like
Speaker 1: using the golf car to go to class. Football team
Speaker 1: got mad, they told we couldn't use it no more,
Speaker 1: so we had to walk. It's like so cold walking
Speaker 1: back towards the class. But what was so fun about
Speaker 1: that year was, you know, nobody like the returning players
Speaker 1: that came, like Patrick Pattison and Ramone Harris and Dere's Miller.
Speaker 1: None of these guys never played for Cows. So like
Speaker 1: the freshmans in the in the upper classmen, it's all
Speaker 1: some new for all of us. So like they didn't
Speaker 1: know what coach Kyle was looking for. We didn't know
Speaker 1: what coach Kyle was looking for, so we all had
Speaker 1: to bond and come together. But we did everything together. Bro,
Speaker 1: we weren't bowling together to eat together like we treated
Speaker 1: like you do as a league team. That's great commodity
Speaker 1: and one of those good teams because they hang out together.
Speaker 1: Team just you know, like we had all the other
Speaker 1: guys that kind of like, you know, like if you
Speaker 1: got like me, Pat the Mark, he bled like, we
Speaker 1: know we're about to go, but all the other guys like, man,
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna hang with us. They don't really rock
Speaker 1: with us. But we're like, no, bro, we're all a brother.
Speaker 1: Were all things like we're going to war to fight
Speaker 1: every night I get hurt. The fifteen guy gonna hang
Speaker 1: with it. So they half like the guys they didn't
Speaker 1: think they were the part of our crew all to
Speaker 1: get together. That's why our team was so funny, having
Speaker 1: so much then. We were just doing whatever, man, we could.
Speaker 1: Nothing was wrong for us to do in college at
Speaker 1: the time. We walked in the corner stories like oh man,
Speaker 1: that go them guys again, we're here. That's us. College.
Speaker 1: College was the outside of having children and being blessed
Speaker 1: to play in the league like Collins, was the funnest
Speaker 1: time of my life. Man, you in l A S
Speaker 1: so I know you was having a blast. Yeah, but see,
Speaker 1: I think I think different because l A is l
Speaker 1: A and it's so big and there's so much other
Speaker 1: ship to do, you know what I mean. So it's
Speaker 1: not you went to where. Motherfucker, that's religion. I remember
Speaker 1: the best part. Obviously going there was dope. But my
Speaker 1: freshman year and nine was the NBA lockout, so we
Speaker 1: had everybody at our game. So I'm tripping coming from
Speaker 1: like Sacramento, Like, motherfucker. We got Shock and Kobe at
Speaker 1: our game. We got movie stars like, we got Snoop
Speaker 1: coming to our game, and I'm like, damn, this is
Speaker 1: what U C. L A Is about. Like the ship
Speaker 1: was a trip, but it was because it was the
Speaker 1: NBA lockouts. We had Hella NBA players at our game
Speaker 1: front and center, and I'm just like, Yeo, this ship
Speaker 1: can't be real. Like it was just like that real
Speaker 1: La la la in type ship And that's what I
Speaker 1: just fell in love with. This ship, bro, ship was
Speaker 1: a blast. That was my plan to go to college.
Speaker 1: Three months I had. We had the number of recruiting
Speaker 1: class that year at Arizona, Me, Mike Bibi, and Eugene Atkinson.
Speaker 1: We had a number. Okay, yeah, y'all. I was loaded. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that class, and we already had with Michael Dickinson,
Speaker 1: Miles Simon. We had all them guys already. So we
Speaker 1: was gonna and they end up winning the national championship.
Speaker 1: So it worked out how I was supposed to work out.
Speaker 1: My start. I couldn't stay at the club. Test was
Speaker 1: at eight. I'm leaving the club at five thirty. That
Speaker 1: that wasn't gonna work. I ain't gonna lie man. First
Speaker 1: time I took that test, man, I fell asleep him.
Speaker 1: I don't needed to dance. All right, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you one thing. You're gonna be figuring something else outs
Speaker 1: that I I got locked it out from me and
Speaker 1: snack this second time. First time. I ain't bray, no snack,
Speaker 1: no calculu. I got this. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: spelling names, wrong, doing all that. You better get this
Speaker 1: right or you're gonna be hurt. Exactly I talk to
Speaker 1: us about So you know, Kentucky, Uh, you're project the
Speaker 1: number one pick you end up being the number one
Speaker 1: pick to the Washington Wizards. UH in two thousand and ten.
Speaker 1: Tell me what you remember most about that uh situation,
Speaker 1: like going into the draft or like after I declare
Speaker 1: just just the whole, just the process of like I
Speaker 1: got a chance to be the number one pick in
Speaker 1: the NBA Draft. It was crazy because like it's so
Speaker 1: crazy because my senior year, there's like, well you're gonna
Speaker 1: be in there one people. I'm like, yeah, y'all whatever,
Speaker 1: y'all just talking. And then you know, like you got
Speaker 1: a lot of guys from back home like, well he's
Speaker 1: gonna be in school three four years. He ain't gonna
Speaker 1: do what he's supposed to do whatever. So for me
Speaker 1: to go there, like first couple of games, like my
Speaker 1: first game game winner, I mean at missed two games
Speaker 1: game winner. Um. Then we get to play Carolina at Kentucky.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm excited for that game because not mean
Speaker 1: being from North Carolina, like my dream school, not getting
Speaker 1: a scholarship offered because I don't want to commit on
Speaker 1: the spot. So like, yea, we get to play Carolina.
Speaker 1: Boy Williams, they had Dexion Strickland and l drew the guy.
Speaker 1: They're like they had picked over me to go there,
Speaker 1: so I felt even a certain way to play. Even
Speaker 1: talk to us about that Carolina situation. That's crazy. So
Speaker 1: you wanted to go to North Carolina and they wanted
Speaker 1: to commit on the spot and you couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: So Carolina is my dreams school. Like you know, I
Speaker 1: mean either Carolina, Duke NC stay really your main schools.
Speaker 1: You've been home, and um, I love, always loved Carolina.
Speaker 1: You know, ty Lawson was there the time. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: ty Lawson killing. I love watching don't play. But then
Speaker 1: I also got to see dear Rodes play at Memphis.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, i gotta play with coach cow But
Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all gotta stay home at the time being.
Speaker 1: And then I went on to visit. I went on
Speaker 1: the visit in Tyler Hansburg that they went to a
Speaker 1: football game and they're like, well, we'll give you off
Speaker 1: if you commit on the spot. I'm I'm not committing
Speaker 1: on the spot. I still want to go watch. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm from where I'm from. I want to see all
Speaker 1: these other schools and get to see these other states
Speaker 1: take visits. So I'm not committing on the spot. They're like, well,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna off you, Like you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: never going to Carolina. I'm never going to Carolina. There
Speaker 1: then I got to play Larry Drew, not the backtrack.
Speaker 1: I gotta play Larry Drew. I think committed to Carolina
Speaker 1: at the Blacks of Smith tournament, which is owned by
Speaker 1: me now my John Water tournament. So I got to
Speaker 1: play him in front of Roy and all them. We
Speaker 1: won that game, so we get to play them in college.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, we gotta kill them. And I'm telling
Speaker 1: my team like, we gotta kill him. It's a big
Speaker 1: game for me. And we beat Carolina. Did not get
Speaker 1: to play ukon with Kimball and Jerome Dison and Stanley
Speaker 1: Robinson in the garden, and I think that was my
Speaker 1: solidified party of being then one pick because I had
Speaker 1: like fifteen of our last seventeen the last five minutes
Speaker 1: in the game winner. So now my whole aspect is
Speaker 1: like so my whole aspect and there like I'm on
Speaker 1: the Great Wall of Sports Illustrated. So I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm about to go to the league. But like I'm
Speaker 1: trying to tell everybody, like just let me focus on
Speaker 1: this college moment because I know it's you can go
Speaker 1: by like this if you lose early in the n
Speaker 1: C Double A tournament. So I told my team, like, uh,
Speaker 1: coach Ky always get like his top point guard, top pick.
Speaker 1: Did you ever know they gotta Slam cover with all
Speaker 1: on them up there like that Coach Kyle and Derek
Speaker 1: and Coach Cole and Tarik is supposed to be in
Speaker 1: Coach cow And I'm like, yo, na, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: put me on the cover again, I'm tired of being
Speaker 1: on cover by myself. Put the markets E Blair and
Speaker 1: Patrick Pattison on this couple with me. So if you
Speaker 1: ever seen the Slam magazine before the tournament, they got
Speaker 1: all four of us that they were Coach Kyle and like,
Speaker 1: my teammates couldn't believe that I put him on there. Women,
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's the type of bond we have, Like
Speaker 1: this is a commodity and love my god, y'all is
Speaker 1: my brothers. So a lot of people don't even know
Speaker 1: that story. So in the article, it's like the cover
Speaker 1: of the bowl letters me and yellow. But I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: my letters bowl. But you see my other three brothers
Speaker 1: up there with me and when I first got in
Speaker 1: and not the back trap. When I first got to school, though,
Speaker 1: Coach Y like, yeah, I know you're gonna leave. We
Speaker 1: all know you're gonna leave, but take four or five
Speaker 1: guys with you. And I'm like, Coach, I can't do that, Like,
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't know if these guys got that dog,
Speaker 1: are gonna want to go to the league at the
Speaker 1: one year and we end up having five guys in
Speaker 1: the first round. That's never been done before. So talk
Speaker 1: to us that you uh injury, the hell injury that
Speaker 1: ended uh that you need to have surgery and ended
Speaker 1: your season. You're rehabing that. And then at the house
Speaker 1: do you slip fall tell your achilles? Yeah, like that's
Speaker 1: back to back crazy similar to crazy luck that the
Speaker 1: Marcus have talked to us with what your mind state
Speaker 1: was like after that? It was so crazy, was because
Speaker 1: when I when I can tell you about before that,
Speaker 1: I had a boon spare in my knee, Like so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell the story about all this was like
Speaker 1: when all this is over, but I had a boon
Speaker 1: spare on my knee like this long like a tooth
Speaker 1: like two three inches in my knee, so I couldn't
Speaker 1: been my knee. So when I was walking around it
Speaker 1: doubt it was like you should have been unbroke your
Speaker 1: knee cap, you should never been an All Star. All this,
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I guess I got a high pain tolerance.
Speaker 1: So I played through that. I got that fixed. That's
Speaker 1: gonna have my best year. Sixteen seventeen, we go to
Speaker 1: Game seven against Boston. Then I come back like the
Speaker 1: next two years and like certain games my heel would hurt,
Speaker 1: Like I'm telling about walking on my tippy toes where
Speaker 1: I couldn't even go to the bathroom at night. They're
Speaker 1: like somebody would just stab me with a knife in
Speaker 1: the back of my head and just keep twisting it,
Speaker 1: you know me. Like I feel like I have that mindset.
Speaker 1: If it ain't bro you can play well. At the
Speaker 1: same time, like I'm I'm really giving my all when
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be right now because I'm I can mess
Speaker 1: my career up. So going into like eighteen nineteen, yeah,
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen, I'm playing and I was like I having
Speaker 1: games where like I'm talking about Jack and Matt, like, well,
Speaker 1: I couldn't even like run down the court like anybody
Speaker 1: could have got by me and we're playing Cleveland at
Speaker 1: the worst game of my life one point and then right,
Speaker 1: I should have set myself out at the beginning, but
Speaker 1: I'm like, y, I can get through this. I can fight.
Speaker 1: It's gonna warm up. It never warmed up, and man,
Speaker 1: after that, I was like, ya, I gotta shut it down,
Speaker 1: like I gotta, I gotta have surgery to get this
Speaker 1: out there. And they're like, well, you might not come
Speaker 1: the same, but people don't really know with me slipping
Speaker 1: ever really and even the reason why I told my
Speaker 1: achilles because I had a bons furt underneath my heel,
Speaker 1: so I had to lift my achilles up already to
Speaker 1: take the bones for out. So when I did that,
Speaker 1: you know what, I made my achilles of a week
Speaker 1: and I was in a walking book and stuff. So
Speaker 1: it just so it just finally gave. But then when
Speaker 1: they put my achilles back down, my bones first out.
Speaker 1: But I'm like walking like this, so like they finally
Speaker 1: just gave. But the doctors like, it's best you did
Speaker 1: it like that because you would have came back and
Speaker 1: rehabbing worked out. It would have just talked completely, like
Speaker 1: like Caden and so mine fully rushed. You have like
Speaker 1: a partial tear in minds, so I was rather bet
Speaker 1: off doing that, so you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: let me tell you all the third box and then
Speaker 1: I get through that. But I've been through four or
Speaker 1: five surgery with that because I kept getting infections m like,
Speaker 1: so like now I'm thinking, like, man, y'all might have
Speaker 1: to cut my whole leg off. Y'all can't clear the
Speaker 1: infection out there because it's deep down in my foot.
Speaker 1: So now my mind said this, man, forget the killers
Speaker 1: and getting that fixed right now, just please clear this
Speaker 1: infection so I can be healthy, like being able to
Speaker 1: walk and have my foot still, right. That's all I
Speaker 1: was really worried about. So people didn't even know that
Speaker 1: side of the stories. I'm like, you, just please get
Speaker 1: the infection out. And I kept tired of getting like
Speaker 1: open it up, cutting, closing and open and closing, and
Speaker 1: so I was like, man, forget even playing basketball. Just
Speaker 1: let me have my legs so I can walk and
Speaker 1: be normal and play with my kids when there or whatever.
Speaker 1: And then I finally got past it, and I finally
Speaker 1: got past that stage where now I'm like, I can't
Speaker 1: wait to prove everybody and show everybody what I got.
Speaker 1: Everybody think I'm done. That's tough. Now, you were on
Speaker 1: assignment with the G League and I heard you was
Speaker 1: getting back to your ship. How are you? How are you?
Speaker 1: How are you feeling and during that? And where do
Speaker 1: you feel like you're at right now? And so you
Speaker 1: took somebody face off in practice or something. I seen
Speaker 1: y'all some private videos. But when I tell you, like
Speaker 1: when I tell y'all, when I tell you, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, like you're playing. So let me tell you
Speaker 1: all know my mom sat so when I'm playing, I'm
Speaker 1: not when I'm not playing on watching these guys play,
Speaker 1: you know, like the young guys and they all like
Speaker 1: they're killing our team and they're looking at our bench
Speaker 1: and stuff. I just know I got those right down
Speaker 1: in my notes when I come back when they started
Speaker 1: next season, because I'm like, I can't wait to show
Speaker 1: them what I got, what I'm about, But I'm I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be better than what I was before. And that's
Speaker 1: the scary part about it because then in my whole year, damn,
Speaker 1: they're the whole Like my five years I was an
Speaker 1: all start, I played with two bones, pers in my knee,
Speaker 1: in my hell. And people don't know that. M So
Speaker 1: y'all guard. They ain't even get the best to John
Speaker 1: Wall yet, so like they just got a clip of
Speaker 1: him already already. Know you gotta love a lot, a
Speaker 1: lot left for the tanking all this time you missed.
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna come back and kill. But speaking
Speaker 1: of guards, if you're talking about the guards, you got,
Speaker 1: what's who's your top five pgs of all time, all time,
Speaker 1: all the time? Man? Magic up there? For sure? It's
Speaker 1: just step up there for Sean. I know people like
Speaker 1: that's too early, but step definitely up there. Uh see.
Speaker 1: I like see like people like down grazy Pino, like
Speaker 1: CP because the way you do stuff. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: you see, y'all played against him like people might not
Speaker 1: like CP, but what he pray into the game like
Speaker 1: as a leader, as an i Q guy dog and
Speaker 1: don't back down for nobody. I could put him in
Speaker 1: my top five because of that, because he don't give
Speaker 1: them who it is. He's trying to rip your head
Speaker 1: off and it's a love. That's what I love about
Speaker 1: CP man because like I like, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I played to me, you know, second sales. I coach
Speaker 1: for a little bit anyone and coach the Clippers, So
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm about the bust CPS. I don't get
Speaker 1: then what you say, like gonna bust show as I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: we just got to go because you coach both of us,
Speaker 1: and that's what I love. The CP. Don't give damn
Speaker 1: who you with, and that's the mindset you gotta have. Man,
Speaker 1: you gotta have that. You gotta have that. I got him,
Speaker 1: I got CP, I got magic. I gotta put John
Speaker 1: steinning because he all time since leading, I mean, just
Speaker 1: not even that. And then I go out of the times.
Speaker 1: I love o Ziah Thomas. Zeke. Yeah, yeah, Zeke. How
Speaker 1: can you not love Zeke? Speaking of us? Speaking of CP,
Speaker 1: you have a you have a signature motherfucking move that
Speaker 1: you caught me with and it's still getting shown a
Speaker 1: lot more, lady, because there ain't no motherfucking basketball when
Speaker 1: you did that motherfucking three sixty spin layer, and I've
Speaker 1: seen your eyes getting big, and I know you wasn't
Speaker 1: crazy enough to try to dunk on me, because you know,
Speaker 1: I found the ship out of you, but you was
Speaker 1: up like like yo, this motherfucker's eyes are getting real big.
Speaker 1: He about to pull some ship. The next thing I know,
Speaker 1: this motherfucker jumps, spins around and makes me. I knew,
Speaker 1: like I just saw it kind of coming. I just
Speaker 1: turned the opposite way and looked like this motherfucker didoth
Speaker 1: three sixty lay up on me. Ever, i'mna be realistic, man,
Speaker 1: I was about a ducking. But when you started to spin,
Speaker 1: like when you move, you moved to the right where
Speaker 1: like when I lean it with my lips, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can't do this. I'm a fault. And I know
Speaker 1: he ain't grabbing me. He thought me straight to the ground.
Speaker 1: So in my mind set, in my mind said, I'm like, yeo,
Speaker 1: I gotta spin. You know that's my goal to Like,
Speaker 1: I just all playoff instincts. So once I've seen him like,
Speaker 1: I'm a spin and I did not know that was
Speaker 1: on that Yeah, that was. But the reason why I
Speaker 1: was in that mindset wasn't Matt. You probably remember man,
Speaker 1: CP was already going there like arguing the whole day.
Speaker 1: It was a battle battle, a battle like going after
Speaker 1: and then like CPS on the bench and he had
Speaker 1: said something a couple of plays before that, and you
Speaker 1: gotta think we're that like eight team something like fun
Speaker 1: that I gotta start putting on the show. And the
Speaker 1: night before I just chewed the legacy. I started putting
Speaker 1: on the show. We come back and make it a game.
Speaker 1: They Seepe come back in and winning for him. But
Speaker 1: like that stretch was like we went on like in
Speaker 1: twelve oh one, and that's when Doc brought the Woods
Speaker 1: back in. That ship was tough. I remember because I
Speaker 1: was I was. I thought for a second, you're gonna jump,
Speaker 1: So I start coming towards you, kind of clearing the
Speaker 1: way like I'm gonna try to get you before you
Speaker 1: even take off. And the next thing I know that
Speaker 1: boy just yeah, that ship was code. That was dope.
Speaker 1: So obviously the goal in in Washington has been to
Speaker 1: win the championship. You and Bill being two of the
Speaker 1: best guards um in the league. What do you think
Speaker 1: are free agency draft? How do you feel like you
Speaker 1: guys And this is no knock on the current team,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean this is just real talking and
Speaker 1: your goal obviously is to get to the playoffs and
Speaker 1: win the championship. What do you kind of feel like
Speaker 1: you guys need to have happened for that to have
Speaker 1: them well, for one, like you said that you started
Speaker 1: right there. I like, I feel like for a couple
Speaker 1: of years in the past, we just kept trying to
Speaker 1: rebuild through the draft like you do a lot of
Speaker 1: other sports. But in the league, your window is kind
Speaker 1: of short. You don't have time for that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I feel like me and Brad
Speaker 1: is a great cornerstone. We have Ruey's a rookie that's
Speaker 1: in there. But I feel like we need We're gonna
Speaker 1: We're definitely gonna need us a three that's a dog,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's the knockdown shots and compete,
Speaker 1: compete and create for us. And then we also got
Speaker 1: to build a bit, you know, I mean, just being realistic, Like,
Speaker 1: I love the team we have never we have some
Speaker 1: great pieces and a lot of young guys that just
Speaker 1: getting an opportunity to play where they probably would have
Speaker 1: never gotten on other teams. But like I feel like,
Speaker 1: if you want to be one of those teams, you
Speaker 1: gotta have vettering guys around that's willing to understand they roll.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what we dealt with in the
Speaker 1: years past with our teams. Is nobody really understood their
Speaker 1: role and trying to get guys to understand that role.
Speaker 1: We never accepted it. And you know how hard that is,
Speaker 1: Jack and Matt when you got got seven to eight
Speaker 1: guys on one year deals every year, like everybody's trying
Speaker 1: to fight for the contracts. So they mindset ain't like
Speaker 1: thinking about, well, we're gonna be here for a while,
Speaker 1: we can build this for you to get to what
Speaker 1: you want to They're like, no, I'm not with it.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get paid right now. And I feel
Speaker 1: like if we get if we add some pieces where
Speaker 1: guy's gonna buy into what's going on, then we'll be fine.
Speaker 1: But if guys ain't willing to buy into that, and
Speaker 1: then we can't bring those guys a part of our
Speaker 1: team because we know men Brad is the main piece
Speaker 1: of the team that just back find all these pieces
Speaker 1: that fit us, and you never know what the future
Speaker 1: gis hold. Two things, we're heading down the whole stretch.
Speaker 1: Who's your favorite guy to battle? When you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: we're playing solo so tonight, like this is when I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be on my ship my guys, Kyrie Man. For
Speaker 1: some reason, like because what makes me, because what makes
Speaker 1: me so frustrated is we felt like those two years
Speaker 1: we posed have been in the the East, coming to find
Speaker 1: that when we lost to Boston and then yeah, I
Speaker 1: broke my hand against Atlanta and Jack remember that series,
Speaker 1: so Up said about that. So I feel like that's
Speaker 1: the matchup. Everybody want to see me and Kyrie to
Speaker 1: go at it for seven games and four gain I
Speaker 1: havev long and I never got the opportunity. So every
Speaker 1: time we played them, and it felt like even in
Speaker 1: the rec and felt like we was in playoff more
Speaker 1: like even when Brian was trying to simulate that, yeah
Speaker 1: that crazy when Brian hit that crazy favor without the glass,
Speaker 1: Like I felt like every time he played him, it's like, man, Kyrie,
Speaker 1: just know this is what it is. Like it's a battle,
Speaker 1: and it was at the time, it was like, who's
Speaker 1: the best point guard in the East between us, who's
Speaker 1: even the second best player in the East behind Lebron,
Speaker 1: And that's what my mindset wasn't has always been like
Speaker 1: that with him. That was a four court pass to
Speaker 1: Bron Carter in the corner, turned and shot it off
Speaker 1: the jointing his slot in front of the three point
Speaker 1: line and once he told it was the foul him,
Speaker 1: we let him take a dripple back behind the three
Speaker 1: for a line phase, so he running past me. I
Speaker 1: make I'm like, you know that was look he said, no,
Speaker 1: you don't feel I do this all the time. He
Speaker 1: always he always making shots like this. So like, I
Speaker 1: ain't got ship. I can say he got championships, so well,
Speaker 1: what can I say to bron But that was the
Speaker 1: same game where he got away. He got away with
Speaker 1: the Traveler. Yeah, bro, each travel was so bad. I
Speaker 1: knew what movie was doing. I know what Brian want.
Speaker 1: We all know if people want to do you can't
Speaker 1: stop him. He traveled so bad and he missed his
Speaker 1: time not and missed it. I really threw the game,
Speaker 1: like yeah, and it's currently because I'm like, yo, Kevin
Speaker 1: Love outlets this past so perfect, Like you couldn't have
Speaker 1: nobody else better to throw that past than Kevin Love. Right,
Speaker 1: what's a former player you wish you could get a
Speaker 1: chance to go to battle against? Well, I didn't even
Speaker 1: gonna say go to battle. We know one player I
Speaker 1: wish that I could steal battle when I wish you
Speaker 1: never had those injuries because he was the toughest player
Speaker 1: I ever played in my life with dead road boy
Speaker 1: because coming in my rookie year of the year he
Speaker 1: won't VP man, when I tell you it was nothing
Speaker 1: you could do, Like I don't care bash you was
Speaker 1: how quick he was because he wasn't those guys that
Speaker 1: we never seen a guy to be that fast and
Speaker 1: the athletic, but had one of the best floaters we
Speaker 1: ever seen, like his floating bro he never missed it
Speaker 1: off two feet going right, So it was like which
Speaker 1: way I'm gonna force some left where he gonna dunk
Speaker 1: in my center and going right. It wasn't like he
Speaker 1: got to the room all the time. He had LAIDs,
Speaker 1: but he had a tough float that was tough to guard.
Speaker 1: So he would be that guy. But the guy said,
Speaker 1: I wish I would have like with a that would
Speaker 1: be my guy. M h ho would have been up
Speaker 1: because you bigger just as fast. That's that's scary. You
Speaker 1: got a need Kobe stories and you remember when Kobe stories. Yes, man,
Speaker 1: my favorite Kobe story with my rookie year, we're going
Speaker 1: to play him in l A. You know, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know you're still like I can't be I'm about
Speaker 1: to play the bean like there's nowhere I'm about to
Speaker 1: play Kobe and I got Gill on my team gear.
Speaker 1: Come out there, winban and no shoes, strange straps. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like, so, I'm gonna play Kobe with a guy
Speaker 1: like Year that don't care about nothing Like so I
Speaker 1: get I get Kobe and the post he guarding me.
Speaker 1: I'm guard him in the post he spends. I blocked
Speaker 1: his shot that of course, you know, not chase after
Speaker 1: of it. I think I'm about to get the loose
Speaker 1: ball and they kick it to him and I run
Speaker 1: back over. They shooting three, and it was like that
Speaker 1: was a good block to play. Continues. I should have
Speaker 1: never said nothing, because he ended up like scoring like
Speaker 1: twenties straight on us. And I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna mind my business and not say nothing.
Speaker 1: No more, don't wake him up. Sometimes you can't wake
Speaker 1: him up. Yeah, And then my last the when I
Speaker 1: had with Kobe was one of the best ever. Like
Speaker 1: we're battling me in Kobe, like I'm really going at it,
Speaker 1: like Kobe scoring, I'm scoring. This fourth quarter is like
Speaker 1: the last seven minutes of the game. We're going back
Speaker 1: and forth. I'm guarding me, guarding me. They didn't not winning,
Speaker 1: But it was like the Kobe like last trip before,
Speaker 1: like he tore a killing and stuff, and that was
Speaker 1: dope for me to be Like I can tell my
Speaker 1: son to show my son at how on YouTube of
Speaker 1: going to a battle on war with Kobe to win
Speaker 1: the clutch game. Yeah, you touched on the real quick
Speaker 1: before we we got a couple more questions. But what
Speaker 1: was it like to have Gilbert Arenas as a teammate?
Speaker 1: How about it was? It was wild for me because
Speaker 1: like he was teaching me the roads, like he wasn't
Speaker 1: trying to put me under wrap the same thing, but
Speaker 1: just to see him but like he always grouping around
Speaker 1: having fun, but like he still had that work as
Speaker 1: even though he know he wasn't here. Like I would
Speaker 1: go in there some nice to getting shots. He'd be
Speaker 1: already in there shooting one hand three from half court.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, I see why you did. I can
Speaker 1: see why you did these game winners from back in
Speaker 1: the day and turn around. But like gil was still
Speaker 1: like a guy that love the game. But he was
Speaker 1: funny as hell. Man. He was one of the coolest
Speaker 1: guys to be around, and he was layal, like I
Speaker 1: remember my first time, like my second, third time walk
Speaker 1: in the locker room, and we wore the same size
Speaker 1: and like, you know, they had those easy that Louis
Speaker 1: Vitty had made with a rail one and the gray
Speaker 1: ones in the cream ones, and like he just dropped
Speaker 1: the whole box and shoes off in the shoe bag,
Speaker 1: like seventy pair of shoes like this for you, young fellow.
Speaker 1: And it's when I was a Rebox you know, I
Speaker 1: was wearing the signer sneakers of Rebox. Won't too much
Speaker 1: I can wear. I was like, man, it's the coolest
Speaker 1: bet ever. Man, gotta go by the Louis no nothing.
Speaker 1: I got everything I need. So he was always doing
Speaker 1: to me and him still kicking and the like if
Speaker 1: I need basketball advice, I called him and ask him
Speaker 1: and we just chop it up. That's for a lot
Speaker 1: of people to understand his basketball mind and how hard
Speaker 1: he works. He's a psycho when it comes to work ethic.
Speaker 1: And it was funny because I talked to heard him
Speaker 1: telling the story about Kobe told had a conversation with
Speaker 1: Gil about he needs to start giving back to the
Speaker 1: game more and take stuff more serious because he's got
Speaker 1: such an amazing basketball mind and obviously you got you
Speaker 1: got a chance to touch on that. Yeah, he's starting
Speaker 1: to do that, and now he talked about it once
Speaker 1: Kobe facts like your Kobe, you want to be doing it,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start doing it. But like you said, Ja,
Speaker 1: y'all both y'all said before the show started, is I
Speaker 1: wish y'all had this platform back then because people portraye
Speaker 1: y'all who y'all are because of your image and your
Speaker 1: mind saying the dog and home y'all half for the
Speaker 1: love of the game, that people would trade you in
Speaker 1: a different way. And now like people look at Gil
Speaker 1: and be like, no, Gil ain't like that. Here Kobe
Speaker 1: talk about getting that way. People want expect that. They
Speaker 1: think gillis, Oh he's always goofing, always not taking the
Speaker 1: game serious, but he puts that work in. But and
Speaker 1: then they're like, I try to tell people is and
Speaker 1: the day everybody got twenty four that day we're not
Speaker 1: gonna be in the gym for twenty four hours. So
Speaker 1: we're still gonna live out regular lives and do other things.
Speaker 1: But you can never knock nobody work at it. You
Speaker 1: don't know when they're putting that work in because everybody
Speaker 1: and film everything, like everything is not supposed to be filmed.
Speaker 1: My work is my work under underground. All right, we
Speaker 1: got these quarantine quick hitters. Last couple of questions where
Speaker 1: we get you out of your jack, go ahead and
Speaker 1: start him up. Who you think should be a guest
Speaker 1: on a little smoke? Who you think should be our
Speaker 1: next guests? I feel like guests are all smoke. Should
Speaker 1: be Bradley gild my teammates. You go, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: at the time when you say something, you know the
Speaker 1: word is born. Appreciate that. Uh, cur What are you
Speaker 1: currently binge watching? Like watching on TV? Yeah, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: watching anything on TV? Any shows anything? Yeah, I'm watching
Speaker 1: I'll be watching Chicago p D Jack Ryan, and then
Speaker 1: I'm on Ozark. I just started Ozark. Okay, see your
Speaker 1: in season one of Ozark. Yeah yeah, hey, you start
Speaker 1: a little slow, but trust me, when he gets going,
Speaker 1: brush it get going. Yeah yeah, my assistant put me
Speaker 1: on that one. But yeah, already that going. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna finish that up. That's dope. What's your quarantine snack?
Speaker 1: Gold fish? You you and your son fight over those up.
Speaker 1: I had to bottom the ones I had abody old fish.
Speaker 1: They got like they shaped like Mickey Mouse. So because
Speaker 1: he like Mickey Mickey Mouse said, you've been thinking them
Speaker 1: joints is real, so him cutting minds, not giving the
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse wars. I figured it out. They got the
Speaker 1: tropical color. They got the tropical color through the box
Speaker 1: the fish. They got the tropical colors. I ain't trying.
Speaker 1: I ain't been in those you put me on the phone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that tropical boy. Hey, so tell me this, what's your
Speaker 1: favorite retro Jersey? Favorite retro Jersey, man, I ain't gonna lie. Man,
Speaker 1: that Memphis Grizzy war shrieper do with the grizzly on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, man, Like I'll be wearing that joy every summer,
Speaker 1: like I were at least want someone every something like
Speaker 1: I might go outside. I just love the way that
Speaker 1: color hit. You're the second person that color is crazy.
Speaker 1: That's what's up. Artists or songs that's don't repeat right now,
Speaker 1: who you're working with right now. I'm like, I'm on
Speaker 1: NBA young boy right now, slimming, yes, sir, right now.
Speaker 1: My favorite song about him is Lonely Child. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love that lonely child. Yeah, I like that, But you
Speaker 1: know nothing one that that that you that you don't
Speaker 1: take off. Repeat this, Roddy rich Ward, Baby, I don't
Speaker 1: take that. I'll repeat neither. Yeah. Yeah, Jack down to
Speaker 1: the begging segment, brought to you by Bang Bang Stephen
Speaker 1: Jackson's what do you want to what do you want
Speaker 1: to do? The drums played Bang. I came begging for
Speaker 1: nothing the last couple of years when he had playoff games,
Speaker 1: he flew me down, gave me flooring seats, He took
Speaker 1: cash Bro more than five times. I have nothing to
Speaker 1: ask for my little bro. He always been a great
Speaker 1: little bro to me. So I just want to give
Speaker 1: me this problem to say thank you for always holding
Speaker 1: me down when our call little Bro. You know I
Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna call away when you need me.
Speaker 1: It's nothing I gonna ask you because you've always been
Speaker 1: trilled with me. Doc for Shure. I love me Bro,
Speaker 1: Killer killer Man. That's some wrap. We want to thank
Speaker 1: our special guests, John Wall. Continue blessing to you and
Speaker 1: your family and your journey back to the court. We
Speaker 1: can't wait to see what you say. Is is the
Speaker 1: best job Wall yet? So we're excited about that. Sure.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you all for having me. Man, love and blessing
Speaker 1: back to your family. Also, that's a wrap. You can
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