1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: From my high school team. We have five guys make 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: the NBA. We head the county Rocket gets some mecca 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: of basketball. Here are those who come before us, upon 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: whose shoulders we stand. It's nothing that you can do 5 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: to stop the competitive and that's just in the water. 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: Welcome back to a special quarantine edition. We got a 7 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: real special guys. What's up with your Brodie with the 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: virtual handshake? I'm gonna tell yall something that I never 9 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: told no about it. I want to all the smoke. 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back to a special quarantine edition of All the Smoke. 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: Jack's good, bro my brother? How you doing our the main? Man, 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: I can't call it. It's ugly out here, raining, nasty, 13 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: stuck in the house. What y'all gotta going to well mover? 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: It's sunny out here. We just can't go in the 15 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: where when yesterday fed the ducks and walked, took a 16 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: little walk. I go get some bikes and something, take 17 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: a ride around the neighborhood. But yeah, man, you best 18 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: you can get. That's still. I just need a little 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: bit of fresh air. What's up? What's your quarantine hair? Gray? 20 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: Looking like you're looking like a slave. Nice like this? 21 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: I was Eddie, Kay, let me see take take your 22 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: hat off real quick. Oh oh yeah, you look like 23 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle when he played the comedian and nutty professor. Yeah, yeah, 24 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: it's time to ask I should struggle it too, if 25 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: I should look like I should just be lame there. 26 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I thought you was on happy days 27 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: when you took that thing first off. Man, You see 28 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: when it's just slip, but that that was kind of clean. Man. 29 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: You gotta do the bones look sometimes and you see 30 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 1: how click that should be bouncing back to life though. 31 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: Yeah you got that. Yeah you got that ship down 32 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: that you you anyway? Man, we got a special guest. 33 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: So when I I've really enjoyed watching play playing against 34 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: uh to me one of the best point guards in 35 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: the game. Welcome John Wall. Go what's good? What's wrong 36 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: with you? Man? Chilling man board watching all these NBA games, classics, 37 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: watching movies, TV shows, ship like that. How's the family? 38 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: How's the family holding up? They're good? You know what 39 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: I mean. You got a little one in the house, 40 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: so he like want to get outside every day right 41 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: around his little bike and run around. But other day 42 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: he's just straight chilling. Talk to me about that because 43 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: we got something of the same age. I got three 44 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: of them. You got your first talk to me about 45 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: having a son and how that just changed your life, 46 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: man um dis perspective, and everything I do now that's 47 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 1: for him, you know what I mean. Everything I see 48 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 1: before is for myself and my my mom and them, 49 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: But now everything I do it for him. Like I 50 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: don't even hang out no more like that, Mike, pick 51 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: one or two days out of every two weeks to 52 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: hang with the guys. But I'm just I just had 53 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 1: the opportunity to be injuried, so I got to watch 54 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: him grow every day, you know what I mean, instead 55 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: of being on the road and traveling. I wish I 56 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: was playing, but just to watch him girl every day. 57 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: And now he's fifteen months so he's telling me no, 58 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: he telling me yes, he telling me thank you, He 59 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: going downstairs to pick up the basketball. So that's all 60 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: been a great blessing discouse with me. No, I know, 61 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: that's amazing. Man. Like I said, I got the same 62 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: I got a fifteen month old two he running running 63 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: the house. I know you're loving that. You also told 64 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: us before that you got another one on the way. Man. Congratulations. Yeah, yeah, 65 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, another little another little boy. Yes, 66 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: he there you go. You're done. You're gonna, you're gonna 67 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: try to get that girl. You're done straight. I ain't dripping, 68 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: and I ain't trying. I keep trying to. I keep trying, 69 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: smart man, smart man. If I keep trying shoot for 70 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: that and I might be six seven in, I ain't 71 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: trying to. You don't want to do this? How much 72 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: you don't want to do that? Yeah, Jess with Jackson 73 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: when you are jack I got seven five five girls, 74 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: two boys, okay, three more? You got ahold two teams 75 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: you play. I ain't gonna. I've been operations shut down. 76 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: I've been operation that's been done. So with us men, 77 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: Matt Win this media space now. And you know, when 78 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: we were playing, the media used to twist our wards allow, 79 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: used to make us seem like, you know, we were 80 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: bad people and never really understood our passion for the 81 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: game and just never really understood us. And I know 82 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: you're dealing with your own side of that, with the 83 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: media trying to twist it, make it seem like you 84 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: and build don't get together, don't get along. I've been there. 85 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: I've got love from both of y'a. At the same time, 86 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: I've seen the brotherhood when I can, when you brought 87 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: me out there for the games. I appreciate that again. 88 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: But but talk about talk about that and how the 89 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: media can try to twist your words or try to 90 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: make you out to be something you not. Oh, I 91 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: think you got too talented young guys man like one 92 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: guy that's been there before, the other one that's like 93 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,119 Speaker 1: the franchise guy, another guy that come into just his talent, 94 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: which its younger. We kind of already mentioned like we wanted. 95 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: We both want to be started. People want to take 96 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: the game when the shots. We both want to be 97 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: talked about in the meet. We both want to be 98 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: all this and all that. But at the end of 99 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: the day, they always say, well they don't like each other. 100 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: They did they downgrading each other, Like I ain't know 101 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: John wall without Bradley Bill. Ain't no Bradley Bill without 102 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: John Waller. We make each other better, like we accompandiate 103 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: yours so well on the court that it works easy 104 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: for us. So like when I see the media try 105 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: to say or they don't like each other, where he 106 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: playing better without him? The ball the team's eating everybody 107 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: moving the balls moving all this well in the day. Yeah, 108 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna play better when another star players not out 109 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: there because you get more shots. Everybody's gonna give you 110 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: the ball more like everything is predicated around you, and 111 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: we don't. We wasn't winning games, so it wasn't good 112 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: for us. Like Brad was like, yeah, I'm getting my numbers, 113 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm doing this, I'm doing that, but we're not winning games. 114 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: Or when Brad is out for four or five games, Yeah, 115 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: John Walt might take ten more shots and two or 116 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: more shots and his numbers might go from twenty two 117 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: a game and thirty two or thirty fourth to that stretch. 118 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: But then my winning games or am I getting to 119 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: the next level opportunity to get a chance win the 120 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: championship one day? No, I can never succeed that unless 121 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm playing with my brother made Bradley Bill. So that 122 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: didn't really bother me when people are saying that, I said, 123 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: that's good because you know, because as players, we know 124 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: the relationships we have with our brothers. And then sometimes 125 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: that's one reason why we're glad we got this show 126 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: because we we didn't have that platform we were playing. 127 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying when when When I when 128 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: I got to that brawl, everybody talked about me going 129 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: in the stands and punching their fan, but nobody never 130 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: rewinded to tape and see me first getting the stands. 131 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: I grabbed her on our test and another beer was 132 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: thrown in his face, So it was only right I 133 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: would act that way. But now we have the platform 134 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: to highlight these things, and I'm glad you spoke on 135 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: that because we have us as players. We know y'all 136 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: relationship type, we know y'all brothers, and we know y'all 137 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: want to rock with each other. Yeah, and that's what 138 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: I try to tap anywhere, just to look back at, 139 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: like y'all are I love that area? You know what 140 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: I mean? Because I feel like that's what the league 141 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: was really about. Like it weren't all about getting in 142 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: the standard fight, but you were taking your brother. Somebody 143 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: knowing something, your brother not gonna stand there and not 144 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: help him out. And now days in this new league, 145 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: you've got so many guys that the way they called things, 146 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: you can't be fel cool, you can't touch everything. The 147 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: flagging foul. Now if somebody say something to your brother, 148 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: bump your brother. You try to stand up for him, 149 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: you might be suspending three or four games, like and 150 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: you're like, you're like, you're like, man day, but I 151 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: was gonna get spent through four games. I'm outa threw 152 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: a punch or something like. You tell so like when 153 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: I so when I tell people all the time, I said, 154 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, these young guys and all these 155 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: people in his leading now is talent, don't get wrong. 156 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: But I came in into the until you can still 157 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: get clothes line, get bumped coming across that lane. If 158 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: you breathe on somebody the wrong way, now you might 159 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: be suspending on game. Like you take away from the 160 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: physicality of the game, and it makes it so it's 161 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: so hard for y'all guys that want to be physical 162 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: definnis to be able to guard these guys. Yeah that 163 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: you can't do it no more, you can't do it. 164 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny that you kind of caught the end, 165 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: but we can't. Even when we came in and the 166 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: jack jack you came in late nineties, I came in 167 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: early two thousand's. It was more physical than that, you 168 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean. If they've steadily decreased the physicality 169 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: of the game, and to me, almost the competitiveness of 170 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: the game because you have to walk the egg shows 171 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: you have to worry about Damn if I put just 172 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: push someone, am I gonna get kicked out the game 173 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: and jeopardize my team? You know? So it's it's it's 174 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: a different it's just a different time now, and I 175 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: think we kind of have to to understand the direction 176 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: they're going. We talked about this with someone else as 177 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: another guest, but you know, now it's all about scoring 178 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: and all about offensive. It really favors the offensive players. 179 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: They want to see three pointers, they want to see dunks, 180 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: they don't want to see no good defense, they don't 181 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: want to see those close ball games. They want to 182 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: see highlights. And I think it's really taken away from 183 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: the essence of the game. Yeah, for sure. Like my 184 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: even when I first got into playoffs, so I think 185 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: like four team fitting in my first year and we're 186 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: playing the Bulls first round and play Indiana like it 187 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: was the first team at eight points won the game. 188 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: Right now, it's like teams got eighty a half, like 189 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: I was in one game we played Scramento this year, 190 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: they had eighty seven and a half. I'm like, yo, 191 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: this is this is if you got eighty seven, you're 192 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: about to win the games. You have to make a 193 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: couple of free throws at the end, right. So, like 194 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: you said, you just got to adapt to what the 195 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: new NBA wanted, what the world wants. We want to 196 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: back up a little bit. Um, you guys played Utah 197 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: uh February and uh probably a week after that, almost 198 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: ten days after that, the league was shut down because 199 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: of uh, you know, Rudy Gobert contracting the virus. Do 200 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: what was the energy and the vibe? Like once you 201 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: guys kind of heard that and realized you guys you're 202 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: as a team hadn't played him that long ago. Well, 203 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: when you get that and you start realizing how serious 204 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: the virus was, you kind of thought like, oh man, 205 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: everybody has to get tested, Like even me. I wasn't playing. 206 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: I was on a beach. But like you know, when 207 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: you interact with players dapping the month throughout the game 208 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: or sad it up after the game. So you're all like, okay, 209 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: take that focus of where have you been recently? Who 210 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: have you been around? And me not having a young son, 211 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: I'm like, well you definitely have to get tested and 212 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: make sure you don't have it, and make sure you're 213 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: not passing long because at the time they were saying 214 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: if you were elderly, older, or your immune system was 215 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: up to bar strong enough, or you got a little baby, 216 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: they got it. It's very ready and can fight it. 217 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: So that's all I'm thinking about now in that aspect 218 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: of making sure my family was straight, and then where 219 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: about myself after words? Because I feel like me is 220 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: a healthy athlete and young I can fight it more 221 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: than what a baby could. Talk to me a little 222 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: bit about your work in DC in the community. I 223 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: think it's something that goes unsung, but you really do 224 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: a lot for that community. You're an advocate for the 225 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: other teams, the baseball team, you you cheer on the 226 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: w NBA team, you're at the games, but you really 227 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: give back a lot. And I don't think we hear 228 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: enough about that. Could talk to us a little bit 229 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: about what you're doing in the community. UM, I just 230 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: have a have a place that I adopted called Bright Beginning. 231 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: It's just like a place for like single moms that 232 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: like don't have jobs and their kids and have opportunity 233 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: to go to school, so we get them somewhere where 234 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: they can live or they can they parts near the 235 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: opportunity to go get a job, get some money putting 236 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: their pocket and their kids and go get a degree. 237 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: I work towards the education. So that's big something I 238 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: looked at because I like, I never had that as 239 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: a platform going up. And I see so many homeless 240 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: people out here, and sometimes these kids never actually be 241 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: in a situation, but that's just what they're born and 242 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: they can't control, so why not try to help them? 243 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: But one thing I always instill to myself and my 244 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: mom help as a young kid, like if you ever 245 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: want to be something like that, like let people remember 246 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: you of what kind of person you are, just not 247 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: as a basketball player. So like a lot of people 248 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: like have these camps and do these charity events and 249 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: get back, but they never present and I'm like, what's 250 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: the point, Like let these people feel like the you're 251 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: normal just like them. So I like to be there 252 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: through if I got event from seven hours, I'm different 253 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: seven hours and interact and showing I'm normal like you. 254 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: Anybody can throw any money or put their name on 255 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: any little event or charity being like well, y'all did donate, well, okay, 256 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: you donated, but sometimes these kids and these parents might 257 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: not never get to see NBA player or a superstar 258 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: in a city. And that's what I probably myself off of, Like, yeah, 259 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: the money is cool to get in there, but that's 260 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: not what I'm doing it for. I'm doing it for 261 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: to show these people that I'm normal just like them. 262 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: And if you come from a Section eight or in 263 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: a struggle situation, you can make it. You just gotta 264 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: believe in yourself. I love that. Man, that's beautiful. We 265 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: appreciate that. And like I said, it's it's always you 266 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: know what the bada rather tell that story? Would they 267 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: rather tell the story that you're beef or they're they're 268 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: making fake beef up about you and your team? Make 269 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: So that's why I like Jack touched on it earlier. Man, 270 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: we need platforms like this, having social media on our 271 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: own to not so much because you don't do it 272 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: for the recognition, but just to know that there we 273 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: are doing good things out there. And when you know, 274 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: the majority of time the media just wants to point 275 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: the bad ship out. Oh yeah, in fact, they're definitely 276 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: gonna pick the bad stuff out of everything. So like 277 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: I always tep home where they're like, well, you don't 278 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: be doing this. You know that I said, I don't 279 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: do stuff for the I don't need it for the cameras. 280 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: Like a lot of stuff I did in the community, 281 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: I never did it for the camera. Like good thing 282 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: is like my team and my team have around me 283 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: and my Wizards organization. They wanted to put me out 284 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: there on that platform and let people see what I'm doing. 285 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: But for me, I was doing it for years, backpack 286 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: giveaway for years and never was really talked about. But 287 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if the camera show but not because 288 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: these kids getting supplied, they getting booked bads to go 289 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: to school and they get to hang out with John 290 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: wal for a couple hours. So that was straight for 291 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: me and to touch on what we're going next. You 292 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: remind me kind of that guy that I'm about to 293 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: ask you about. You know what I'm saying you, They 294 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: twitsched you. They don't know all the all the love 295 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: you get in the neighborhoods and and the love you 296 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: give back to the community. But Ai, you know you 297 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: you talked about how you looked up to him. You 298 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: got in the a our stories that you can give us. 299 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: Man him, Yeah, man, my favorite story of all time, 300 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: like is when I was coming out, you feel me 301 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,599 Speaker 1: like everybody loved George. Everybody love all this when you 302 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: come out of getting shoe deals and then want pick 303 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, Reebok off of your deal. 304 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, cool wearing reboxes. I but you 305 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: know me at this time and I air with social 306 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: media it is I want to be in George and Nikes. 307 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: And then I remember I was in Reebok. I went 308 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 1: to take my visit there like to talk to him, 309 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: and he y'all showed up, came out of nowhere talking 310 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: to me for like talking to me for like two hours. 311 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: He was like, let's here, man, I know what you're 312 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: going through. I know what you decide. And because I 313 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: was the same person in them shoes coming out of 314 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: Georgetown where my George doing all this. But he was like, 315 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: why do I change the coachure? Like why not be 316 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: yourself and start something in your own way? So once 317 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: he said that, like I didn't even have he didn't 318 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: even have to walk me upstair. You can bring the 319 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: paper down here, I'm signing like my like like my 320 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: my Ida just came and talk to me and told 321 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: me a reason why I can go this way and 322 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: start them on rever Do, and they wanted me to, like, 323 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, rebot wasn't the same, and they just wanted 324 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: to start open and see if they can build it 325 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: back up, which is tough the way they business. But 326 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: outside that, I was the reason why I was like, man, 327 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sign these papers forget what anybody else talking about. 328 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: So that was so that was like my dopest story 329 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: for me, you know what I mean, Like, you know, 330 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: every time you see ay now he grabbed your back 331 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: in head and love you, You're like, nobody want to say, 332 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: come on, you're doing too but like I'm grown man, 333 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: like you gotta keep grabbing. He still do that to me. 334 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: He still doing but he like still yeah so and 335 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: and I seem to do to everybody. So I'm like, 336 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, you can't. Who can you say? Like you 337 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: know you got older vests and you he doing this too. 338 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: But that was just a dupe story for me. That 339 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: made me be like, you know what I got respected 340 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: from from my item, you know what I mean? That 341 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: that's all I really cared about the time being. That's 342 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: what's something. Man. So you came up in a in 343 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: a single parent household, your mom worked multiple jobs to 344 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: to support you and your siblings. Uh, and you went 345 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: through something that I went through, man, which was the 346 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: toughest thing I personally ever had to go through. I 347 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: lost my mom to cancer in in in two thousand 348 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: and seven. And really that was that was when you know, 349 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: I would say, that's when Jack and I really we're 350 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: already teammates. We fund with each other off the rip. 351 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: But this dude was here from me every single day. Man, 352 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: come to my house, check on me, called me, come 353 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: smoke with me, bring me weed, bring me food. He 354 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: was just there for me, man, you know what I mean. 355 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: So obviously condolences and rest in peace to your mom. 356 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: Talked to us a little bit about that and and 357 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: and how that affected you. It affected life as a whole, 358 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: because to me, the pain never goes away. You just 359 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: learned how to deal with it a little better each day. Yeah, 360 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: talk to us about that. Well, that was like the 361 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: toughest for me anyway, you know what I mean. That's 362 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: my best friend, Like I always talked to three four 363 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: seven times a day, and all that so like when 364 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: she was going through the whole process, it was just 365 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: like damn, man, like you know what I mean, like 366 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: hoping she can beat this because I lost my dad 367 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: from cancer when I was nine, so I kind of 368 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: already knew how that route goes. And then it's like 369 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: after my twenty twenty nine birthday, man, and she just 370 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: started to get real more and more sick, like couldn't 371 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: move and I had to stand there. My mom is 372 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: one of those moms that, like, you know, get up 373 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: five am, six am doing everything, everything is already done 374 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: for you, go to school, what she go to work. 375 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: So when I started sitting again week and week, I 376 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: try to spend as much time as I could with 377 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: it every day or every time she came in town 378 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: for a keymo or anything like that, just understanding that 379 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: there's getting more serious now that she might not make it. 380 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: And I remember she came to my birthday party and 381 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: we had a blast and all that, and it was 382 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: like the last time you see my mom smiling, and 383 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: I posted my pictures, So I did that. I started 384 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: to get tougher and tough and I'm like still trying 385 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: to go through my rehalf, but also make sure I 386 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: spend much time with my mom because I don't know 387 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: if this is it or not. And I remember I 388 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna come down there right after this 389 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: and we play. We're about to play Charlotte, and it 390 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: was like I think a Monday, we're gonna play Charlotte. 391 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: And I was like, yo, you know what, I'm gonna 392 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: come down and play Charlotte. After the game, I'm gonna 393 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: stay to night drive the I'm gonna see my mom 394 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: for like seven eight days. We get out the plane, 395 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: I land, I get back to I get to my 396 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: hotel and I get a call like she had um. 397 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: She had passed earlier that day but came back to 398 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: life like they they pumped her back to life. And 399 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: then she's on like a bent leke machine and I'm like, 400 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: oh no, this crazy is over. Like I asked one 401 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: of my homeboy they lived in Charlotte, and he drove 402 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: me straight like straight. Riley's like a three hour drive. 403 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: I strove straight down and like just to see my 404 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: mom on the on the bed. It's just it was 405 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: definite thing. So like I passed out of fainting and 406 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: then I'm like, yo, this really might be the last 407 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: the last couple of days, I get to pee my mom. 408 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: So literally every day from that day before, I never 409 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: left the hospital, took showers in there, and spent the 410 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: night in there, and it was just tough to see her. 411 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: But she kept fighting and fighting and fighting and fighting. 412 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: Like and this is why I tell you what, Like 413 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: people say they don't know our relationship between me and 414 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: Brad because everybody was like, well, y'all don't get along, 415 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: y'all don't like bro. When I got the phone called, 416 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: the first person that came out of my hotel room 417 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: the hang out with me was Brad like, come to 418 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: hold me, like like, yo, you're my brother, Like what 419 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: you're going through, I'm going through. And after they played 420 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: that game again, and after they played the game against 421 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: Charlotte they lost, Brad didn't even get on the team playing. 422 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: He drove down to be with me in North Carolina 423 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: for the next two or through. You know what I'm saying. 424 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: So like I told to me that, like y'all think 425 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: y'all know our situation, But he ain't had to do 426 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: none of this had just been a teammate, it's bigger 427 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: than who it could have been a teammate, and brother 428 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: and be like you know what, man, he are, I'm 429 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: gonna call on them leading now. He came to check 430 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: on me, see my mom and like that this basketball 431 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: stuff in tomorrow. We never fled again. Like that's gonna 432 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: be somebody I called my brother because he was there 433 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: in the time when I was there. So yeah, like 434 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: that was that was like the most difficult and still is. 435 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: And like one thing that helped me is we got 436 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: a guy to do chapel for his name passed the 437 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: battle and I want to talk to him. My mom 438 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: was real sick before she passed, and I was like, um, 439 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: how do you get through it? Like how do you 440 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: get any comfort? Like you know, you don't really feel comfort, 441 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: You're always gonna feel that pain, but like you at 442 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: peace with her leaving. And when he talked to me 443 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: like that and I want to talk to my mom 444 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: one on one before she passing, did all that I 445 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: knew she fought as much she becauld she was happy 446 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: and she was like I'm at peace, I'm ready to go. 447 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: That made it more easy for me to set my 448 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: mom going even though you still had those pains and 449 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: every day about it. Man, that's the that's the exact 450 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: same situation because my mom was diagnosed November one and 451 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: died November twenty seven, so within twenty six days. So 452 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: I was in Golden State with Jack and the rest 453 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: of the squad, and I was back and forth constantly 454 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: sacramented to the bay. And I remember the last day, Um, 455 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: we were playing the Phoenix Suns and I I had 456 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: been I had missed practice, and you know, she kind 457 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: of saw I was aunty, but I was still spending 458 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: time with her, talking to her and everything. She's like, 459 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: you know, baby, go play your game. Your team need you, um, 460 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: and then just come back after. So I was like, 461 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: all right, So man, I drove straight to the game, like, 462 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: didn't have shoot around, didn't do whatever. Everyone already knew 463 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: the deal. Played played well. I think we beat Phoenix 464 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: in either a single overtime or double overtime. Had a 465 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: really good game. I hit it when I got done, 466 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: like a mouth that you know, you did a good job. Um, 467 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: you know, get some rest, come see me in the morning. 468 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: And she died like four am that morning before I 469 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: got a chance to get back over there and see her. 470 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: But you know, to know that, you know, I mean, 471 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: I got to have my nights with her and talk 472 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: to her, and she was at peace. You know, she said, baby, 473 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: I'm tired, you know what I mean, she had been fighting. 474 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: She gave me the advice to you know, look over 475 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: my brother and my sister, my dad. She she gave 476 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: me all the game and then she know, I just 477 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: knew she was once she you know, she can kind 478 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: of let go. She was going to be in a 479 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: better place because she was so tired. She was in 480 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: so much pain and she just been handled it no more. 481 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: So it's funny that you said that because I had 482 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: to come with to come to peace with her being 483 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: at peace about it, which is like damn, Like she's 484 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: at peace with letting go. So I had I had 485 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: to be strong and do that. So it's a tough 486 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: thing to go through. Man. Yeah, that and that's the crazy, 487 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: like you don't think like those little talks to that 488 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: one on one and I mean so much, but for 489 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: there to be like you, I'm tired, I'm at peace, 490 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: It's like why why would I want her to suffer 491 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: and keep fighting? I mean, I'm not the one that 492 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: got to be in that body. So you kind of 493 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: accept it, but you're still like godly like my best 494 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: friend my mom gone. So for me, like I had 495 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: my dad for nine years in my life and most 496 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: of the time he was in jail most of my 497 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: life and my mom for twenty nine so it's like 498 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: I know what it like not to be on both 499 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: ends and I have either one. So like, that's my 500 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: main goal is seeting that aspect. I think quick things 501 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: to be taking away. So that's why I tried to 502 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: change as much moment as I can with my son. Right, 503 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: So absolutely it changed your focus. Then you got a 504 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: dear Mama tattoo on your back foot to honor her, right, Yeah, yeah, 505 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: I got dear Mama tat my back. And then it's crazy, 506 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: I got like your Mama's boy on my chest, like 507 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: one of my first tattoos I got because I'm always 508 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: everybody always calling me a mom's boy. So then when 509 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: she was going through the cancer and I'm just seeing 510 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: her fighting and I'm like, yo, like I just like, 511 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: dear Mama was just so dope to me, and I'm like, 512 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: my mom would always had my back and always be 513 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: watching over me. So that's why I put on the 514 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: back of my neck. That's what it's dope. That's dope. 515 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: In eighteen, you started pursuing your bachelor's degree. Uh, talk 516 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: about that. You're still doing it. You still taking classes 517 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: while you quarantine, you know why you're rehabbing. Yeah, that 518 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: was a promise you made your mom right there. She 519 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: was gonna go back and get get your degree. Yeah, 520 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: And that's crazy because, like before I got on a 521 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: call with you all to day, I was just talking 522 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: to my administrator from my school, like picking my my 523 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: classes and my fall classes. So that's just crazy that 524 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: y'all even bring it up. But like I was supposed 525 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: to do exam when my mom was going through, she 526 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: went through it was about to pass. I was like, yea, 527 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: take it like a like a month off and didn't 528 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: find my ZAM. So I finally got through that is 529 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,239 Speaker 1: ZAM for my last semester and passed that. So now 530 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to get my classes for summer school. So yeah, 531 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna do that. And like my my ultimate 532 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: goals even pushed even further to try to take as 533 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: many classes more than I came to get it quicker, 534 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like when I got my 535 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: when I went into the Hall of Fame, it was dope. 536 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: Because my mom was there and like when of the 537 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: last time, she was very like I got to go 538 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: back to Kentucky and see me, so like, do you 539 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: know I got put into all the family. You'll probably 540 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: see my speech where I broke down and talked about it, 541 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: like all that all that was dope to me because 542 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: she got to witness that. So like to see my 543 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: first son born, to see me going to Hall of Fame, 544 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: and see me play eight to nine years in the league. 545 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: Like and the only thing that really irks me to 546 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: this day is you know you probably pul the same man. 547 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: It's like did I do enough? Like did I make 548 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 1: my mom happy? Like that's the only thing that'd be like, Yo, 549 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 1: did I have enough fun with my mom? Did I 550 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: do enough? And I have a dope assistance and always 551 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: be like, yo, you ever, don't ever question and stuff 552 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: and think about that because just go back and watch 553 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: the pictures and seeing your mom smile and see that, 554 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: Like I got to take my mom so that that 555 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: kind of clears my mind a little bit. And then 556 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: like I got I put a picture uh me and 557 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: my mom at the White House corresponded then like she 558 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: got to meet Michelle and Brock, so like to take 559 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: my mom and there that lets me know I did 560 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: something special. So like, but yeah, I'm definitely going back 561 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: to get that degree, though I'm pushing very hard for that. 562 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: I love that, I was telling the crew before we 563 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: got on the air today. I went back and watched 564 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: games six of the We Believe season when we beat 565 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: Dallas in the clinching game and this mother fucking Jack 566 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: is on fire and I hit him with one of 567 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: his I think I hit him with like his assistant. 568 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: He hit his six three pointer. Dallas called the time 569 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: out and somehow that the camera I had, Like I said, 570 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: I had never seen the game. I was watching the 571 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: T n T feed that can't pinned right to my 572 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: mom and the crowd, and she was up jumping around screaming, 573 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: hands above her head, and I'm like that she gave 574 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: me instant hills, like just what are the chances at 575 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: a twenty thousand people in the arena? Jack was the 576 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: motherfucker to hit the shot. I don't even hit the shot. 577 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: They just happened to pay on my mom and dad 578 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: and go past them. And I'm like, damn, that ship 579 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: is crazy. Like I was. I was his Bradley Bill. 580 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: I was I was his dog for real. You know, 581 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: Jack and I became brothers, man, Like he was there 582 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: every single day talking, doing whatever you need and you 583 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: need that. That's why you know when it when it happened, 584 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: I hit you, I hit you like bro, but you 585 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: know whatever you need, you want to talk because I 586 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: kind of found that, like you talking about it helped. 587 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: At first, I was closed off to the world, you 588 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I tried to play a day 589 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: after I was closed off quiet, But then when I 590 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: started opening up and talking, I really felt like I 591 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: kind of started to heal a little bit and share 592 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: the good memories and the fun times. And that's what 593 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: Jack was there for. Man. We would just chop it up, 594 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 1: and it really helped me have a different outlook. All 595 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: look still hurt. It just gave me a different perspective 596 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: on ship. Yeah, definitely gonna be always to be hurt. 597 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: But like you said, they're being able to talk about 598 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: it has somebody can talk to and you can tell 599 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: it like kind of buying y'all have you know what 600 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: I mean? Even just by the show, but I'm seeing 601 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: y'all before this, how y'all bond like you could tell 602 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: that blond ain't fake, you know what I mean. And 603 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: that's one thing like we're saying Jack, when when you 604 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: was fixing your scream. Man, is like certain things to 605 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: be so fake these days, man, Like people want to 606 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: be cool with people for a certain reasons. To be 607 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: talked about the cloud chasing, like you could tell when 608 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: it's genuine loved there and that's when that's when it 609 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: all matters to me. It's cool to keep it moving, 610 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: But when it's genuine love, you're gonna know. Man, You're 611 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: gonna know what something you don't know, you're gonna know. Yeah, 612 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: we all everybody in his life, we all normal. We 613 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: all gonna go through tough times, you know what I mean. 614 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,479 Speaker 1: And tough times don't last last is long. May make 615 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: you strong as you're gonna be so, I mean, like 616 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: you said, having some people you can talk to, somebody 617 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: around and makes it so much better. That's what's up. Yeah, 618 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: let's jump back to college, man, because you had the 619 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: motherfucking legendary career, legendary teammates, legendary coach. Tell me what 620 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: that experience is. Because Jack went straight to the league, 621 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: but I went to U C. L A and it 622 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: was the best time in my d You want to 623 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: dumb as you but you never get really which I 624 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: can panther themn tess, Bro, you ain't telling me nothing. 625 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I know a lot of people that 626 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: go over seas, but that ain't right. But that one 627 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: thing I would say, though, Jackie, if you ever had 628 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: the opportunity, Bro, that would have been your best time ever. 629 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: Man Like for me, I knew I was going for 630 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: eight months, you know what I mean. But like I'm like, yeah, 631 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm here to win the championship. I don't win it cool, 632 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna have this most fun never and being 633 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: able to go to class and get up and grind 634 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: every day. Man like we had. Bro. When I tell 635 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: you coach college, when the crazy coach act, like two weeks, 636 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: I see you. I think I picked the one school 637 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: I want to transfer. She was like, she was like, boy, 638 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: you stay like this. Every morning we had to be 639 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: on the suicide line. We had twenty suicide and twenty 640 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: minutes at six am. Every day was summer school. So 641 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: like our first ten suicide is like the basic one 642 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: free throw line. Then the last ten was baseline baseline 643 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: other free throw line like, and I'm like, yo, did 644 00:26:55,280 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: I like this is not basketball? And then want yeah 645 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: type thing. So I'll tell you when the funny stories is. 646 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: We run the suicide. We got like four left and 647 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: like the guards had to finish, like Biggs had to finish, 648 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: like thirty the markets feet caught on fire, like he said, 649 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: he stopped running like he really he made suicide. He 650 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: made suicide. He runs to the sideline to my quick, 651 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: man quick, like my feet burn, and I ain't doing 652 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: it the more because would be he would want to 653 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: be all billy. So he was like, you know what 654 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: if he would have finished the suicide, I didn't give 655 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: you all the morrow off. No, he wasn't gonna give 656 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: us more of just trying to use. So we got 657 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: suicide to this morning man the market sitting at a 658 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: half court. He ain't got a runk. You know the 659 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: reason why we gotta run to there. He's sitting in 660 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: at half court, no running. We all look at him like, yo, 661 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: we gotta jump him after this because there's no way 662 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: we got run suicide and he ain't got a run. 663 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: But we don't want to beating the markets up back then. 664 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, like Jack that that school man, it was 665 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: the most fun ever, man, just being able to prepare 666 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: every week, having maybe two or three games, and the 667 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: most fun with me was going on the road, Like 668 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: you don't get you don't get that atmosphere and that 669 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: that coach they brought were talking trash and it's just 670 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: you and your your fourteen guy and you're going out 671 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: there to go to battle and go to war and 672 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: it's like, you gotta win a survive out here. Ain't 673 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: nobody on your side, and you know, Kentucky fans travel, 674 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: but it feels like, yeah, it still didn't feel like 675 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: a home game because the way they were treating but 676 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: it was dope. Man. You couldn't ask for nothing better. 677 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: And like everyone, for me being then one pick, I 678 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: wanted to go back to school just to win the 679 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: national championship, just to get that atmosphere and that like 680 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: fun and high sight and it was tell me about 681 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: what that team was like because you played with a 682 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: lot of NBA players in college, Like your team was 683 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: rock star status, you know. I mean that's when social 684 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: media just started hitting, like y'all was the ship you 685 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: bled bogie? Like what was that? Like? It was man, 686 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: Like we stayed in the Wildcat Lodge, and like we 687 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: walked outside our building where we stayed in the practice. 688 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: That's why I can't live. It's like where the players stayed, 689 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: but we we gotta let like teen regular students stay, 690 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: so the like you get extra benefits. It's like where 691 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: we stay, like having an apartment, so we had like 692 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: a game room and all that in there. But like 693 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: from here to like ten steps, it's like what we 694 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: practiced that, but it would be like sixty seventy cars 695 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: and people wave autographs every day and we couldn't get 696 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: away from them. So we're like, yo, we can't even 697 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: want the class. But I so like we started like 698 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: using the golf car to go to class. Football team 699 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: got mad, they told we couldn't use it no more, 700 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: so we had to walk. It's like so cold walking 701 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: back towards the class. But what was so fun about 702 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: that year was, you know, nobody like the returning players 703 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: that came, like Patrick Pattison and Ramone Harris and Dere's Miller. 704 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: None of these guys never played for Cows. So like 705 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: the freshmans in the in the upper classmen, it's all 706 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: some new for all of us. So like they didn't 707 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: know what coach Kyle was looking for. We didn't know 708 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: what coach Kyle was looking for, so we all had 709 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: to bond and come together. But we did everything together. Bro, 710 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: we weren't bowling together to eat together like we treated 711 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: like you do as a league team. That's great commodity 712 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: and one of those good teams because they hang out together. 713 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: Team just you know, like we had all the other 714 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: guys that kind of like, you know, like if you 715 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: got like me, Pat the Mark, he bled like, we 716 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,239 Speaker 1: know we're about to go, but all the other guys like, man, 717 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: they ain't gonna hang with us. They don't really rock 718 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: with us. But we're like, no, bro, we're all a brother. 719 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: Were all things like we're going to war to fight 720 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: every night I get hurt. The fifteen guy gonna hang 721 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: with it. So they half like the guys they didn't 722 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: think they were the part of our crew all to 723 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: get together. That's why our team was so funny, having 724 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: so much then. We were just doing whatever, man, we could. 725 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: Nothing was wrong for us to do in college at 726 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: the time. We walked in the corner stories like oh man, 727 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 1: that go them guys again, we're here. That's us. College. 728 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: College was the outside of having children and being blessed 729 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: to play in the league like Collins, was the funnest 730 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: time of my life. Man, you in l A S 731 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: so I know you was having a blast. Yeah, but see, 732 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: I think I think different because l A is l 733 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: A and it's so big and there's so much other 734 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: ship to do, you know what I mean. So it's 735 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: not you went to where. Motherfucker, that's religion. I remember 736 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: the best part. Obviously going there was dope. But my 737 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: freshman year and nine was the NBA lockout, so we 738 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: had everybody at our game. So I'm tripping coming from 739 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: like Sacramento, Like, motherfucker. We got Shock and Kobe at 740 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: our game. We got movie stars like, we got Snoop 741 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: coming to our game, and I'm like, damn, this is 742 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: what U C. L A Is about. Like the ship 743 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: was a trip, but it was because it was the 744 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: NBA lockouts. We had Hella NBA players at our game 745 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: front and center, and I'm just like, Yeo, this ship 746 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: can't be real. Like it was just like that real 747 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: La la la in type ship And that's what I 748 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: just fell in love with. This ship, bro, ship was 749 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: a blast. That was my plan to go to college. 750 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: Three months I had. We had the number of recruiting 751 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: class that year at Arizona, Me, Mike Bibi, and Eugene Atkinson. 752 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: We had a number. Okay, yeah, y'all. I was loaded. Yeah, 753 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: I remember that class, and we already had with Michael Dickinson, 754 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: Miles Simon. We had all them guys already. So we 755 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: was gonna and they end up winning the national championship. 756 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: So it worked out how I was supposed to work out. 757 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: My start. I couldn't stay at the club. Test was 758 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: at eight. I'm leaving the club at five thirty. That 759 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: that wasn't gonna work. I ain't gonna lie man. First 760 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: time I took that test, man, I fell asleep him. 761 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: I don't needed to dance. All right, I'm gonna tell 762 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: you one thing. You're gonna be figuring something else outs 763 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: that I I got locked it out from me and 764 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: snack this second time. First time. I ain't bray, no snack, 765 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: no calculu. I got this. You know what I mean, 766 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: spelling names, wrong, doing all that. You better get this 767 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: right or you're gonna be hurt. Exactly I talk to 768 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: us about So you know, Kentucky, Uh, you're project the 769 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: number one pick you end up being the number one 770 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: pick to the Washington Wizards. UH in two thousand and ten. 771 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: Tell me what you remember most about that uh situation, 772 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: like going into the draft or like after I declare 773 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: just just the whole, just the process of like I 774 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: got a chance to be the number one pick in 775 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: the NBA Draft. It was crazy because like it's so 776 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: crazy because my senior year, there's like, well you're gonna 777 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: be in there one people. I'm like, yeah, y'all whatever, 778 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: y'all just talking. And then you know, like you got 779 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: a lot of guys from back home like, well he's 780 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: gonna be in school three four years. He ain't gonna 781 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: do what he's supposed to do whatever. So for me 782 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: to go there, like first couple of games, like my 783 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: first game game winner, I mean at missed two games 784 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: game winner. Um. Then we get to play Carolina at Kentucky. 785 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm excited for that game because not mean 786 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: being from North Carolina, like my dream school, not getting 787 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: a scholarship offered because I don't want to commit on 788 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: the spot. So like, yea, we get to play Carolina. 789 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: Boy Williams, they had Dexion Strickland and l drew the guy. 790 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: They're like they had picked over me to go there, 791 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: so I felt even a certain way to play. Even 792 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: talk to us about that Carolina situation. That's crazy. So 793 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: you wanted to go to North Carolina and they wanted 794 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: to commit on the spot and you couldn't do it. 795 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: So Carolina is my dreams school. Like you know, I 796 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: mean either Carolina, Duke NC stay really your main schools. 797 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: You've been home, and um, I love, always loved Carolina. 798 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: You know, ty Lawson was there the time. I'm like, yo, 799 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: ty Lawson killing. I love watching don't play. But then 800 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: I also got to see dear Rodes play at Memphis. 801 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, i gotta play with coach cow But 802 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all gotta stay home at the time being. 803 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: And then I went on to visit. I went on 804 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: the visit in Tyler Hansburg that they went to a 805 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: football game and they're like, well, we'll give you off 806 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: if you commit on the spot. I'm I'm not committing 807 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: on the spot. I still want to go watch. I mean, 808 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: I'm from where I'm from. I want to see all 809 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: these other schools and get to see these other states 810 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: take visits. So I'm not committing on the spot. They're like, well, 811 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: we're not gonna off you, Like you know what, I'm 812 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,959 Speaker 1: never going to Carolina. I'm never going to Carolina. There 813 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: then I got to play Larry Drew, not the backtrack. 814 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 1: I gotta play Larry Drew. I think committed to Carolina 815 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: at the Blacks of Smith tournament, which is owned by 816 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: me now my John Water tournament. So I got to 817 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: play him in front of Roy and all them. We 818 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 1: won that game, so we get to play them in college. 819 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, we gotta kill them. And I'm telling 820 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: my team like, we gotta kill him. It's a big 821 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: game for me. And we beat Carolina. Did not get 822 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 1: to play ukon with Kimball and Jerome Dison and Stanley 823 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: Robinson in the garden, and I think that was my 824 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: solidified party of being then one pick because I had 825 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: like fifteen of our last seventeen the last five minutes 826 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: in the game winner. So now my whole aspect is 827 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: like so my whole aspect and there like I'm on 828 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: the Great Wall of Sports Illustrated. So I'm like, yeah, 829 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm about to go to the league. But like I'm 830 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: trying to tell everybody, like just let me focus on 831 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: this college moment because I know it's you can go 832 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: by like this if you lose early in the n 833 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: C Double A tournament. So I told my team, like, uh, 834 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: coach Ky always get like his top point guard, top pick. 835 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: Did you ever know they gotta Slam cover with all 836 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: on them up there like that Coach Kyle and Derek 837 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: and Coach Cole and Tarik is supposed to be in 838 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: Coach cow And I'm like, yo, na, if you're gonna 839 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: put me on the cover again, I'm tired of being 840 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: on cover by myself. Put the markets E Blair and 841 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: Patrick Pattison on this couple with me. So if you 842 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: ever seen the Slam magazine before the tournament, they got 843 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: all four of us that they were Coach Kyle and like, 844 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: my teammates couldn't believe that I put him on there. Women, 845 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's the type of bond we have, Like 846 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: this is a commodity and love my god, y'all is 847 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: my brothers. So a lot of people don't even know 848 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: that story. So in the article, it's like the cover 849 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: of the bowl letters me and yellow. But I said, yeah, 850 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: my letters bowl. But you see my other three brothers 851 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: up there with me and when I first got in 852 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: and not the back trap. When I first got to school, though, 853 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: Coach Y like, yeah, I know you're gonna leave. We 854 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 1: all know you're gonna leave, but take four or five 855 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: guys with you. And I'm like, Coach, I can't do that, Like, 856 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: I can't. I don't know if these guys got that dog, 857 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: are gonna want to go to the league at the 858 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: one year and we end up having five guys in 859 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: the first round. That's never been done before. So talk 860 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: to us that you uh injury, the hell injury that 861 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: ended uh that you need to have surgery and ended 862 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: your season. You're rehabing that. And then at the house 863 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: do you slip fall tell your achilles? Yeah, like that's 864 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: back to back crazy similar to crazy luck that the 865 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 1: Marcus have talked to us with what your mind state 866 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 1: was like after that? It was so crazy, was because 867 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: when I when I can tell you about before that, 868 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 1: I had a boon spare in my knee, Like so 869 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell the story about all this was like 870 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: when all this is over, but I had a boon 871 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: spare on my knee like this long like a tooth 872 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: like two three inches in my knee, so I couldn't 873 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: been my knee. So when I was walking around it 874 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: doubt it was like you should have been unbroke your 875 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: knee cap, you should never been an All Star. All this, 876 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I guess I got a high pain tolerance. 877 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: So I played through that. I got that fixed. That's 878 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: gonna have my best year. Sixteen seventeen, we go to 879 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: Game seven against Boston. Then I come back like the 880 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 1: next two years and like certain games my heel would hurt, 881 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: Like I'm telling about walking on my tippy toes where 882 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: I couldn't even go to the bathroom at night. They're 883 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: like somebody would just stab me with a knife in 884 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: the back of my head and just keep twisting it, 885 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: you know me. Like I feel like I have that mindset. 886 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: If it ain't bro you can play well. At the 887 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: same time, like I'm I'm really giving my all when 888 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: I shouldn't be right now because I'm I can mess 889 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: my career up. So going into like eighteen nineteen, yeah, 890 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen, I'm playing and I was like I having 891 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: games where like I'm talking about Jack and Matt, like, well, 892 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: I couldn't even like run down the court like anybody 893 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: could have got by me and we're playing Cleveland at 894 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: the worst game of my life one point and then right, 895 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: I should have set myself out at the beginning, but 896 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: I'm like, y, I can get through this. I can fight. 897 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: It's gonna warm up. It never warmed up, and man, 898 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: after that, I was like, ya, I gotta shut it down, 899 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: like I gotta, I gotta have surgery to get this 900 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: out there. And they're like, well, you might not come 901 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: the same, but people don't really know with me slipping 902 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: ever really and even the reason why I told my 903 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: achilles because I had a bons furt underneath my heel, 904 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: so I had to lift my achilles up already to 905 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 1: take the bones for out. So when I did that, 906 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: you know what, I made my achilles of a week 907 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: and I was in a walking book and stuff. So 908 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: it just so it just finally gave. But then when 909 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: they put my achilles back down, my bones first out. 910 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: But I'm like walking like this, so like they finally 911 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: just gave. But the doctors like, it's best you did 912 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: it like that because you would have came back and 913 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: rehabbing worked out. It would have just talked completely, like 914 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: like Caden and so mine fully rushed. You have like 915 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 1: a partial tear in minds, so I was rather bet 916 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: off doing that, so you know what I mean. So 917 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: let me tell you all the third box and then 918 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: I get through that. But I've been through four or 919 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: five surgery with that because I kept getting infections m like, 920 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: so like now I'm thinking, like, man, y'all might have 921 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: to cut my whole leg off. Y'all can't clear the 922 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: infection out there because it's deep down in my foot. 923 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: So now my mind said this, man, forget the killers 924 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: and getting that fixed right now, just please clear this 925 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: infection so I can be healthy, like being able to 926 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: walk and have my foot still, right. That's all I 927 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: was really worried about. So people didn't even know that 928 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: side of the stories. I'm like, you, just please get 929 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: the infection out. And I kept tired of getting like 930 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: open it up, cutting, closing and open and closing, and 931 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: so I was like, man, forget even playing basketball. Just 932 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: let me have my legs so I can walk and 933 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: be normal and play with my kids when there or whatever. 934 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: And then I finally got past it, and I finally 935 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: got past that stage where now I'm like, I can't 936 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: wait to prove everybody and show everybody what I got. 937 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: Everybody think I'm done. That's tough. Now, you were on 938 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: assignment with the G League and I heard you was 939 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: getting back to your ship. How are you? How are you? 940 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: How are you feeling and during that? And where do 941 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: you feel like you're at right now? And so you 942 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: took somebody face off in practice or something. I seen 943 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 1: y'all some private videos. But when I tell you, like 944 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: when I tell y'all, when I tell you, I'm like, 945 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: you know, like you're playing. So let me tell you 946 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: all know my mom sat so when I'm playing, I'm 947 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 1: not when I'm not playing on watching these guys play, 948 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: you know, like the young guys and they all like 949 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 1: they're killing our team and they're looking at our bench 950 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: and stuff. I just know I got those right down 951 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: in my notes when I come back when they started 952 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: next season, because I'm like, I can't wait to show 953 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: them what I got, what I'm about, But I'm I'm 954 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: gonna be better than what I was before. And that's 955 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: the scary part about it because then in my whole year, damn, 956 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: they're the whole Like my five years I was an 957 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: all start, I played with two bones, pers in my knee, 958 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: in my hell. And people don't know that. M So 959 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: y'all guard. They ain't even get the best to John 960 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: Wall yet, so like they just got a clip of 961 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: him already already. Know you gotta love a lot, a 962 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: lot left for the tanking all this time you missed. 963 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: I know you're gonna come back and kill. But speaking 964 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: of guards, if you're talking about the guards, you got, 965 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: what's who's your top five pgs of all time, all time, 966 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: all the time? Man? Magic up there? For sure? It's 967 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: just step up there for Sean. I know people like 968 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: that's too early, but step definitely up there. Uh see. 969 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: I like see like people like down grazy Pino, like 970 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: CP because the way you do stuff. I'm not saying 971 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: you see, y'all played against him like people might not 972 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: like CP, but what he pray into the game like 973 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: as a leader, as an i Q guy dog and 974 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: don't back down for nobody. I could put him in 975 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: my top five because of that, because he don't give 976 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 1: them who it is. He's trying to rip your head 977 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,919 Speaker 1: off and it's a love. That's what I love about 978 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 1: CP man because like I like, you know what I mean, 979 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: I played to me, you know, second sales. I coach 980 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: for a little bit anyone and coach the Clippers, So 981 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm about the bust CPS. I don't get 982 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 1: then what you say, like gonna bust show as I'm like, well, 983 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: we just got to go because you coach both of us, 984 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: and that's what I love. The CP. Don't give damn 985 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: who you with, and that's the mindset you gotta have. Man, 986 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,439 Speaker 1: you gotta have that. You gotta have that. I got him, 987 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,959 Speaker 1: I got CP, I got magic. I gotta put John 988 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: steinning because he all time since leading, I mean, just 989 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: not even that. And then I go out of the times. 990 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: I love o Ziah Thomas. Zeke. Yeah, yeah, Zeke. How 991 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: can you not love Zeke? Speaking of us? Speaking of CP, 992 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: you have a you have a signature motherfucking move that 993 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: you caught me with and it's still getting shown a 994 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: lot more, lady, because there ain't no motherfucking basketball when 995 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 1: you did that motherfucking three sixty spin layer, and I've 996 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: seen your eyes getting big, and I know you wasn't 997 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,800 Speaker 1: crazy enough to try to dunk on me, because you know, 998 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: I found the ship out of you, but you was 999 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 1: up like like yo, this motherfucker's eyes are getting real big. 1000 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: He about to pull some ship. The next thing I know, 1001 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: this motherfucker jumps, spins around and makes me. I knew, 1002 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: like I just saw it kind of coming. I just 1003 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: turned the opposite way and looked like this motherfucker didoth 1004 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 1: three sixty lay up on me. Ever, i'mna be realistic, man, 1005 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: I was about a ducking. But when you started to spin, 1006 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: like when you move, you moved to the right where 1007 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: like when I lean it with my lips, I'm like, 1008 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: I can't do this. I'm a fault. And I know 1009 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,720 Speaker 1: he ain't grabbing me. He thought me straight to the ground. 1010 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: So in my mind set, in my mind said, I'm like, yeo, 1011 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: I gotta spin. You know that's my goal to Like, 1012 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: I just all playoff instincts. So once I've seen him like, 1013 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: I'm a spin and I did not know that was 1014 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: on that Yeah, that was. But the reason why I 1015 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: was in that mindset wasn't Matt. You probably remember man, 1016 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: CP was already going there like arguing the whole day. 1017 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: It was a battle battle, a battle like going after 1018 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: and then like CPS on the bench and he had 1019 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: said something a couple of plays before that, and you 1020 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: gotta think we're that like eight team something like fun 1021 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: that I gotta start putting on the show. And the 1022 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 1: night before I just chewed the legacy. I started putting 1023 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: on the show. We come back and make it a game. 1024 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: They Seepe come back in and winning for him. But 1025 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 1: like that stretch was like we went on like in 1026 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: twelve oh one, and that's when Doc brought the Woods 1027 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: back in. That ship was tough. I remember because I 1028 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 1: was I was. I thought for a second, you're gonna jump, 1029 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: So I start coming towards you, kind of clearing the 1030 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: way like I'm gonna try to get you before you 1031 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: even take off. And the next thing I know that 1032 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 1: boy just yeah, that ship was code. That was dope. 1033 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: So obviously the goal in in Washington has been to 1034 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: win the championship. You and Bill being two of the 1035 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 1: best guards um in the league. What do you think 1036 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: are free agency draft? How do you feel like you 1037 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,399 Speaker 1: guys And this is no knock on the current team, 1038 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, I mean this is just real talking and 1039 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: your goal obviously is to get to the playoffs and 1040 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: win the championship. What do you kind of feel like 1041 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: you guys need to have happened for that to have 1042 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: them well, for one, like you said that you started 1043 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: right there. I like, I feel like for a couple 1044 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: of years in the past, we just kept trying to 1045 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 1: rebuild through the draft like you do a lot of 1046 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: other sports. But in the league, your window is kind 1047 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 1: of short. You don't have time for that, you know 1048 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 1: what I mean. And I feel like me and Brad 1049 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: is a great cornerstone. We have Ruey's a rookie that's 1050 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,439 Speaker 1: in there. But I feel like we need We're gonna 1051 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: We're definitely gonna need us a three that's a dog, 1052 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's the knockdown shots and compete, 1053 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: compete and create for us. And then we also got 1054 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: to build a bit, you know, I mean, just being realistic, Like, 1055 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 1: I love the team we have never we have some 1056 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: great pieces and a lot of young guys that just 1057 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: getting an opportunity to play where they probably would have 1058 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: never gotten on other teams. But like I feel like, 1059 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 1: if you want to be one of those teams, you 1060 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: gotta have vettering guys around that's willing to understand they roll. 1061 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: And that's kind of what we dealt with in the 1062 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: years past with our teams. Is nobody really understood their 1063 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: role and trying to get guys to understand that role. 1064 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: We never accepted it. And you know how hard that is, 1065 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: Jack and Matt when you got got seven to eight 1066 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: guys on one year deals every year, like everybody's trying 1067 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: to fight for the contracts. So they mindset ain't like 1068 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 1: thinking about, well, we're gonna be here for a while, 1069 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 1: we can build this for you to get to what 1070 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: you want to They're like, no, I'm not with it. 1071 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get paid right now. And I feel 1072 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,439 Speaker 1: like if we get if we add some pieces where 1073 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,800 Speaker 1: guy's gonna buy into what's going on, then we'll be fine. 1074 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: But if guys ain't willing to buy into that, and 1075 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: then we can't bring those guys a part of our 1076 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: team because we know men Brad is the main piece 1077 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: of the team that just back find all these pieces 1078 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: that fit us, and you never know what the future 1079 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: gis hold. Two things, we're heading down the whole stretch. 1080 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: Who's your favorite guy to battle? When you're like, okay, 1081 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: we're playing solo so tonight, like this is when I'm 1082 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 1: gonna be on my ship my guys, Kyrie Man. For 1083 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: some reason, like because what makes me, because what makes 1084 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: me so frustrated is we felt like those two years 1085 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:43,839 Speaker 1: we posed have been in the the East, coming to find 1086 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: that when we lost to Boston and then yeah, I 1087 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: broke my hand against Atlanta and Jack remember that series, 1088 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: so Up said about that. So I feel like that's 1089 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 1: the matchup. Everybody want to see me and Kyrie to 1090 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 1: go at it for seven games and four gain I 1091 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: havev long and I never got the opportunity. So every 1092 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,040 Speaker 1: time we played them, and it felt like even in 1093 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: the rec and felt like we was in playoff more 1094 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: like even when Brian was trying to simulate that, yeah 1095 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,760 Speaker 1: that crazy when Brian hit that crazy favor without the glass, 1096 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: Like I felt like every time he played him, it's like, man, Kyrie, 1097 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 1: just know this is what it is. Like it's a battle, 1098 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,439 Speaker 1: and it was at the time, it was like, who's 1099 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 1: the best point guard in the East between us, who's 1100 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,720 Speaker 1: even the second best player in the East behind Lebron, 1101 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 1: And that's what my mindset wasn't has always been like 1102 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: that with him. That was a four court pass to 1103 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: Bron Carter in the corner, turned and shot it off 1104 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: the jointing his slot in front of the three point 1105 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 1: line and once he told it was the foul him, 1106 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 1: we let him take a dripple back behind the three 1107 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: for a line phase, so he running past me. I 1108 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 1: make I'm like, you know that was look he said, no, 1109 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: you don't feel I do this all the time. He 1110 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 1: always he always making shots like this. So like, I 1111 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: ain't got ship. I can say he got championships, so well, 1112 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 1: what can I say to bron But that was the 1113 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: same game where he got away. He got away with 1114 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 1: the Traveler. Yeah, bro, each travel was so bad. I 1115 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: knew what movie was doing. I know what Brian want. 1116 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 1: We all know if people want to do you can't 1117 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: stop him. He traveled so bad and he missed his 1118 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,839 Speaker 1: time not and missed it. I really threw the game, 1119 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: like yeah, and it's currently because I'm like, yo, Kevin 1120 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: Love outlets this past so perfect, Like you couldn't have 1121 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: nobody else better to throw that past than Kevin Love. Right, 1122 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 1: what's a former player you wish you could get a 1123 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,359 Speaker 1: chance to go to battle against? Well, I didn't even 1124 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 1: gonna say go to battle. We know one player I 1125 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: wish that I could steal battle when I wish you 1126 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: never had those injuries because he was the toughest player 1127 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 1: I ever played in my life with dead road boy 1128 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: because coming in my rookie year of the year he 1129 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: won't VP man, when I tell you it was nothing 1130 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 1: you could do, Like I don't care bash you was 1131 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 1: how quick he was because he wasn't those guys that 1132 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: we never seen a guy to be that fast and 1133 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 1: the athletic, but had one of the best floaters we 1134 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: ever seen, like his floating bro he never missed it 1135 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: off two feet going right, So it was like which 1136 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: way I'm gonna force some left where he gonna dunk 1137 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: in my center and going right. It wasn't like he 1138 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: got to the room all the time. He had LAIDs, 1139 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: but he had a tough float that was tough to guard. 1140 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,399 Speaker 1: So he would be that guy. But the guy said, 1141 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: I wish I would have like with a that would 1142 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 1: be my guy. M h ho would have been up 1143 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 1: because you bigger just as fast. That's that's scary. You 1144 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 1: got a need Kobe stories and you remember when Kobe stories. Yes, man, 1145 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: my favorite Kobe story with my rookie year, we're going 1146 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 1: to play him in l A. You know, I mean, 1147 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 1: you know you're still like I can't be I'm about 1148 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 1: to play the bean like there's nowhere I'm about to 1149 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: play Kobe and I got Gill on my team gear. 1150 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: Come out there, winban and no shoes, strange straps. Yeah, 1151 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, so, I'm gonna play Kobe with a guy 1152 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 1: like Year that don't care about nothing Like so I 1153 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 1: get I get Kobe and the post he guarding me. 1154 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 1: I'm guard him in the post he spends. I blocked 1155 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 1: his shot that of course, you know, not chase after 1156 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,359 Speaker 1: of it. I think I'm about to get the loose 1157 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: ball and they kick it to him and I run 1158 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 1: back over. They shooting three, and it was like that 1159 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: was a good block to play. Continues. I should have 1160 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 1: never said nothing, because he ended up like scoring like 1161 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: twenties straight on us. And I was like, you know what, 1162 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna mind my business and not say nothing. 1163 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 1: No more, don't wake him up. Sometimes you can't wake 1164 00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 1: him up. Yeah, And then my last the when I 1165 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: had with Kobe was one of the best ever. Like 1166 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 1: we're battling me in Kobe, like I'm really going at it, 1167 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 1: like Kobe scoring, I'm scoring. This fourth quarter is like 1168 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 1: the last seven minutes of the game. We're going back 1169 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: and forth. I'm guarding me, guarding me. They didn't not winning, 1170 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: But it was like the Kobe like last trip before, 1171 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 1: like he tore a killing and stuff, and that was 1172 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 1: dope for me to be Like I can tell my 1173 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,359 Speaker 1: son to show my son at how on YouTube of 1174 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: going to a battle on war with Kobe to win 1175 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,799 Speaker 1: the clutch game. Yeah, you touched on the real quick 1176 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: before we we got a couple more questions. But what 1177 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: was it like to have Gilbert Arenas as a teammate? 1178 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: How about it was? It was wild for me because 1179 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 1: like he was teaching me the roads, like he wasn't 1180 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 1: trying to put me under wrap the same thing, but 1181 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,360 Speaker 1: just to see him but like he always grouping around 1182 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: having fun, but like he still had that work as 1183 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,320 Speaker 1: even though he know he wasn't here. Like I would 1184 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:49,840 Speaker 1: go in there some nice to getting shots. He'd be 1185 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 1: already in there shooting one hand three from half court. 1186 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, what, I see why you did. I can 1187 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 1: see why you did these game winners from back in 1188 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,919 Speaker 1: the day and turn around. But like gil was still 1189 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 1: like a guy that love the game. But he was 1190 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,240 Speaker 1: funny as hell. Man. He was one of the coolest 1191 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: guys to be around, and he was layal, like I 1192 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 1: remember my first time, like my second, third time walk 1193 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: in the locker room, and we wore the same size 1194 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,399 Speaker 1: and like, you know, they had those easy that Louis 1195 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 1: Vitty had made with a rail one and the gray 1196 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,240 Speaker 1: ones in the cream ones, and like he just dropped 1197 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: the whole box and shoes off in the shoe bag, 1198 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,760 Speaker 1: like seventy pair of shoes like this for you, young fellow. 1199 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 1: And it's when I was a Rebox you know, I 1200 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 1: was wearing the signer sneakers of Rebox. Won't too much 1201 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: I can wear. I was like, man, it's the coolest 1202 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 1: bet ever. Man, gotta go by the Louis no nothing. 1203 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 1: I got everything I need. So he was always doing 1204 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 1: to me and him still kicking and the like if 1205 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 1: I need basketball advice, I called him and ask him 1206 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 1: and we just chop it up. That's for a lot 1207 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,319 Speaker 1: of people to understand his basketball mind and how hard 1208 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: he works. He's a psycho when it comes to work ethic. 1209 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 1: And it was funny because I talked to heard him 1210 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: telling the story about Kobe told had a conversation with 1211 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 1: Gil about he needs to start giving back to the 1212 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,799 Speaker 1: game more and take stuff more serious because he's got 1213 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 1: such an amazing basketball mind and obviously you got you 1214 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,320 Speaker 1: got a chance to touch on that. Yeah, he's starting 1215 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 1: to do that, and now he talked about it once 1216 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 1: Kobe facts like your Kobe, you want to be doing it, 1217 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start doing it. But like you said, Ja, 1218 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 1: y'all both y'all said before the show started, is I 1219 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 1: wish y'all had this platform back then because people portraye 1220 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: y'all who y'all are because of your image and your 1221 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,320 Speaker 1: mind saying the dog and home y'all half for the 1222 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: love of the game, that people would trade you in 1223 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,879 Speaker 1: a different way. And now like people look at Gil 1224 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: and be like, no, Gil ain't like that. Here Kobe 1225 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: talk about getting that way. People want expect that. They 1226 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,320 Speaker 1: think gillis, Oh he's always goofing, always not taking the 1227 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 1: game serious, but he puts that work in. But and 1228 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 1: then they're like, I try to tell people is and 1229 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: the day everybody got twenty four that day we're not 1230 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,320 Speaker 1: gonna be in the gym for twenty four hours. So 1231 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 1: we're still gonna live out regular lives and do other things. 1232 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 1: But you can never knock nobody work at it. You 1233 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 1: don't know when they're putting that work in because everybody 1234 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,320 Speaker 1: and film everything, like everything is not supposed to be filmed. 1235 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 1: My work is my work under underground. All right, we 1236 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 1: got these quarantine quick hitters. Last couple of questions where 1237 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 1: we get you out of your jack, go ahead and 1238 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 1: start him up. Who you think should be a guest 1239 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 1: on a little smoke? Who you think should be our 1240 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:06,760 Speaker 1: next guests? I feel like guests are all smoke. Should 1241 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 1: be Bradley gild my teammates. You go, and you're gonna 1242 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 1: at the time when you say something, you know the 1243 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 1: word is born. Appreciate that. Uh, cur What are you 1244 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 1: currently binge watching? Like watching on TV? Yeah, yeah, you're 1245 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 1: watching anything on TV? Any shows anything? Yeah, I'm watching 1246 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,319 Speaker 1: I'll be watching Chicago p D Jack Ryan, and then 1247 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,839 Speaker 1: I'm on Ozark. I just started Ozark. Okay, see your 1248 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 1: in season one of Ozark. Yeah yeah, hey, you start 1249 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: a little slow, but trust me, when he gets going, 1250 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 1: brush it get going. Yeah yeah, my assistant put me 1251 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 1: on that one. But yeah, already that going. So I'm 1252 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: gonna finish that up. That's dope. What's your quarantine snack? 1253 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,279 Speaker 1: Gold fish? You you and your son fight over those up. 1254 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,399 Speaker 1: I had to bottom the ones I had abody old fish. 1255 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 1: They got like they shaped like Mickey Mouse. So because 1256 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,359 Speaker 1: he like Mickey Mickey Mouse said, you've been thinking them 1257 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 1: joints is real, so him cutting minds, not giving the 1258 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:12,400 Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse wars. I figured it out. They got the 1259 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,760 Speaker 1: tropical color. They got the tropical color through the box 1260 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 1: the fish. They got the tropical colors. I ain't trying. 1261 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 1: I ain't been in those you put me on the phone. Yeah, 1262 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: that tropical boy. Hey, so tell me this, what's your 1263 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:34,319 Speaker 1: favorite retro Jersey? Favorite retro Jersey, man, I ain't gonna lie. Man, 1264 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 1: that Memphis Grizzy war shrieper do with the grizzly on it. 1265 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, man, Like I'll be wearing that joy every summer, 1266 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 1: like I were at least want someone every something like 1267 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 1: I might go outside. I just love the way that 1268 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,720 Speaker 1: color hit. You're the second person that color is crazy. 1269 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,319 Speaker 1: That's what's up. Artists or songs that's don't repeat right now, 1270 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,840 Speaker 1: who you're working with right now. I'm like, I'm on 1271 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 1: NBA young boy right now, slimming, yes, sir, right now. 1272 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 1: My favorite song about him is Lonely Child. Yeah, I 1273 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,920 Speaker 1: love that lonely child. Yeah, I like that, But you 1274 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 1: know nothing one that that that you that you don't 1275 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,919 Speaker 1: take off. Repeat this, Roddy rich Ward, Baby, I don't 1276 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 1: take that. I'll repeat neither. Yeah. Yeah, Jack down to 1277 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:27,760 Speaker 1: the begging segment, brought to you by Bang Bang Stephen 1278 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 1: Jackson's what do you want to what do you want 1279 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 1: to do? The drums played Bang. I came begging for 1280 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,720 Speaker 1: nothing the last couple of years when he had playoff games, 1281 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 1: he flew me down, gave me flooring seats, He took 1282 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 1: cash Bro more than five times. I have nothing to 1283 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,640 Speaker 1: ask for my little bro. He always been a great 1284 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 1: little bro to me. So I just want to give 1285 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 1: me this problem to say thank you for always holding 1286 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 1: me down when our call little Bro. You know I 1287 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:52,759 Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna call away when you need me. 1288 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 1: It's nothing I gonna ask you because you've always been 1289 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 1: trilled with me. Doc for Shure. I love me Bro, 1290 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 1: Killer killer Man. That's some wrap. We want to thank 1291 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 1: our special guests, John Wall. Continue blessing to you and 1292 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: your family and your journey back to the court. We 1293 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 1: can't wait to see what you say. Is is the 1294 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 1: best job Wall yet? So we're excited about that. Sure. 1295 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,800 Speaker 1: Appreciate you all for having me. Man, love and blessing 1296 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 1: back to your family. Also, that's a wrap. You can 1297 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 1: find this on Showtime Basketball, YouTube or all platforms, streaming podcasts, 1298 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: all of them. Good job, my boy. It's something about 1299 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 1: how this place forms a different kind of person. On 1300 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: my high school team. We have five guys make the NBA. 1301 00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 1: We had the County Rock. You mentioned friend Shorty's County peop. 1302 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,439 Speaker 1: We know it's about. It's the Metha of basketball. There 1303 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 1: are those who have come before us, upon whose shoulders 1304 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 1: we stand here for this area, you have to have 1305 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:14,160 Speaker 1: tough scar Then Jim became the sanctuary. E g County 1306 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 1: guys provide buckets for America's press. Georgia acts a lot 1307 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:27,360 Speaker 1: of power, a lot of character. It's nothing that you 1308 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 1: can do to stop the competitive and we're pushing the 1309 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:35,799 Speaker 1: community and the culture forward. There's just in the water. 1310 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 1: H This life was all I ever wanted. I'm not leaving, 1311 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,839 Speaker 1: not yet. I was hoping you'd say that we gotta 1312 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 1: hit the streets, make some money. People like us. Let's 1313 00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:06,760 Speaker 1: destroyed people like him to come up. Get Showtime free 1314 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 1: at Showtime dot com.