1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from seven 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: pm to ten pm Eastern four to seven Pacific on 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for the Odd 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Couple at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 3: Let's get there. Let's get to your Detroit Lions. 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna sit here and make a big 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: stink about it. 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 3: But I told you, did you tell me? I told you? 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: And we have a Jordan's bet, And I know that 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: they're not officially eliminated. 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 3: I know that. Are they gonna make the black what say? Yeah, 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: I got no chice? 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 4: Yeah no, they're not going to affect the player. Yeah, 17 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 4: you can on it and I gotta ride it out. 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 4: And we've seen crazy things happen. No, we have how 19 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 4: I really my brains? 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: You Oh but okay, I mean anyway, they're not in 21 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: it because if you look at that deep did. 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 3: You sort of run defense? Yesterday? 23 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: They gave up two hundred and thirty yards on the 24 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: ground to the Steelers who can't run the ball, No TJ. 25 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 3: Watt. I mean just you could go look up and 26 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: down and needed calls at the end. 27 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: Oh, I can't believe passing, the offensive passing appearance or 28 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: whatever it was it was. 29 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 3: You know you're saying the last one was the last 30 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: one for sure. 31 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: Also and also the Steelers had an offensive passing appearance 32 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: as well, they had one earlier in the game, so 33 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: they had a touchdown taking off the board. 34 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: I'm talking about the last one. 35 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: There's no doubt in my mind. But I'm not surprised 36 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: here that the Lions took a step back this season. 37 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: And the reason that I said that they would not 38 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: make the playoffs has nothing to do with my hate 39 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: for Detroit. Hey for the Lions, Hey for Dan Gambles 40 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: called NFL analysis. Why I bring up that I've covered 41 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: the league since nineteen eighty seven. I really take a 42 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: look at this stuff, and you can't lose two coordinators 43 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: and have it not affect anything. And that's the part 44 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: that was the reason why I said it. And I 45 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: even told you that they can win nine or ten 46 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: games and not make the playoffs, which they might if 47 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: they split the last two, they'll have ten wins and 48 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: not make the playoffs. And that is exactly what I 49 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: was talking about about that division, about that team, about 50 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: Dank Campbell, Dan Gamble again, early in the game, there 51 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: was a field goal to be had. 52 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: You take that field goal early on. 53 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: Guess what you're setting up for a game winning field goal, 54 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: keep your season alive and well where you still would 55 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: even have a chance at the division. So this comes 56 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: as no surprise to me at all. It ain't based 57 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: on hate. It's it's facts, not feelings. And I've seen 58 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: other teams lose both of their coordinators and take a 59 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: step back. 60 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: I told you the division was better, right, Packers, Bears 61 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: way better. And even the. 62 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: Vikings, who gave you the death blow, the Minnesota Vikings 63 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: right on. 64 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: Your home field, lose that one. 65 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: That's the game that killed them. 66 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 3: I'm not surprised. 67 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: I told you the Lions window was closed, and I'm 68 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: more confident today that they let the Steelers come into 69 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: their building with the season on the line, and they 70 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: got roughed over. They got worked over like a burger 71 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: and fries on both lines, offensive and defensive line. 72 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 4: Well, I think you've give a little too much to 73 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 4: the Steelers, But I have a whole lot of issues. Specifically, 74 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 4: I'm gonna start with Dan Campbell and his gambles, and 75 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 4: I've been sitting here on the air, off the air 76 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 4: telling you the same thing. I don't like those and 77 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 4: in the same phrase I keep using, it's as if 78 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 4: he didn't know this, and he should because he played football, 79 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: he was an assistant coach of years and he's obviously 80 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 4: been a head coach for years. It's called situational awareness 81 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 4: and the idea that you would just walk into something 82 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 4: going well, this is just what we do, this is 83 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 4: just who we are. 84 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 85 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: And that's also called the definition and sanity doing the 86 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 4: same thing over expecting different results. And to me, Dan 87 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 4: Campbell put his team in multiple situations, multiple games this 88 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 4: year where they were in these games and had a 89 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 4: chance to win it to lose. If you go back 90 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 4: to what he was doing against the Packers, going forward 91 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: on his own side of the ball for no reason, 92 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 4: not putting, not taking field goals. 93 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: Same thing with the Eagles. 94 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 4: You remember how close both of those games were right there, 95 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 4: You're right there in the game, you got a chance 96 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 4: to win it. And it's specifically this past one you 97 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 4: just mentioned it steals go down and get a three. 98 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 4: All right, they get a field go, no big deal, 99 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 4: you go march down, you kick a field goal, fourth 100 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: and four whatever it was fourth and for the goal 101 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 4: of the fourth, what are you doing? You tie it up? 102 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: This is called December football, Rob. You have to make 103 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 4: wise decisions to get into the postseason. 104 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 3: The whole goal is to get in there. And then 105 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: you say, well, you know what, we're here. 106 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 4: You never know and he he's putting himself in his 107 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 4: positions where you know your team is training, you have 108 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 4: a million guys hurt, you know, you're fighting for your life. 109 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 4: They need to lean on you sometimes and you say, guys, 110 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 4: we're taking the three. I know, coach with m we're 111 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 4: taking the points because you're disrespecting the game, dispecting the 112 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 4: Steelers in this case, the Eagles another time, and the 113 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 4: Packers another time, and you're disrespecting your team. You work 114 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 4: hard for every yard, especially in December. This is when 115 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 4: teams are locking in, they're getting focused for the postseason 116 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 4: or trying to make a postseason run. So that was 117 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 4: the first thing that I had issues with. Secondly, what 118 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 4: the heck we talked about this before. I don't know 119 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: what's going on with their personal training staff. But them 120 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 4: in the forty nine ers, they got some they got 121 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 4: some real issues with guys. Regularly, it's football, everybody's gonna 122 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 4: get hurt. They are regularly having big time guys when 123 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 4: small guys, middling guys get hurt. To the tune of 124 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 4: what what's going on is that how they're practicing. Are 125 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 4: they practicing too hard? You know, pads all the time, 126 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 4: not taking some days off. There's something going on where 127 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 4: they always are out, They're always entered. 128 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: The middle was seven and a half point favorites at 129 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: home game even with the injuries. 130 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: But the Steelers were missing some some players. But you 131 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 4: can't keep leaning on that. And they should have beaten this. 132 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 4: They should have beaten the Steelers. That you should have went, 133 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 4: whether it be the field, go out there to win 134 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 4: one or should be touched out. Where we will disagree 135 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 4: is I do think that was a touchdown because we 136 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 4: see that play all the time in the NFL. I 137 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 4: mean teams, some teams make literal habits of that play. 138 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 4: Both of them play the first one, the first one. 139 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 4: I have to me, that's the one I have a 140 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 4: big issue with. It happens all the time, like and 141 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 4: not to mention if you watch it and if they 142 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 4: show it again, he literally pushed the defender, pushed the 143 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 4: receiver Tesla into the defender. 144 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: You're the only one on this bad wagon. You'll get you. 145 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 4: I be guarantee if Rob g he would say the 146 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 4: same thing. I just I just think I'm not even 147 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 4: that wasn't even where I led the show, So I'm 148 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 4: not acting like I didn't say that was the sole reason. 149 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: Anybody to watch that you give up to you give 150 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: up three explosive plays five yards of more. 151 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: He expects to win that game. In the NFL. 152 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 4: It happens all the time the game, you know, it 153 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 4: happens all the time. You go get yours, but they 154 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 4: got they. You can't let the Steelers who don't. 155 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: Yards on you. 156 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 4: You cannot get the ball right on you like that. 157 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 4: And so that's it. That's a big game that you 158 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 4: cannot afford those and order. 159 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: The Lions had three plays for negative two yards and 160 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: of course the safety there. 161 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was they played. They played poorly and still 162 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 4: had a chance to win it. And I go back 163 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 4: to you kick the field goal, you were winning by one. 164 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 4: You wipe the sweat off your forehead and you go 165 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 4: we walked away. 166 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: The Super Bowl era, only seven teams have gone from 167 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: the number one overall seed to not making the playoffs 168 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: the next year. 169 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 3: The Lions have a chance. 170 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 4: They have a big chance to do that. And I'm 171 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: highly disappointed. 172 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: The number one seed last year obviously, and it's right 173 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: there too. Give me the Lions best win this year. 174 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: We have to pull up everything. Have it off the 175 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: top of my head because because this is another one 176 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: when you take a look at the Lions season and 177 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: be honest with yourself, because they haven't beaten anybody. 178 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: The one team they beat wasn't the team that they 179 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: are now. 180 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: That's the only game that they've won against the good 181 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:10,559 Speaker 1: like a good team. 182 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 4: The Cowboys are a good team. The only teams are 183 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 4: under five hundred. What I'm saying, we can't with my 184 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 4: point is you can't do that like they're good or 185 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 4: great at the time, because. 186 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: You get to see what a team is and it's 187 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: at the end. 188 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 5: Of the year. 189 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 4: What I'm saying, when they two seconds ago, we were 190 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 4: saying that that Jerry Jones got it right, we alle 191 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 4: him an apology. 192 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 3: Then they go off and lose and and. 193 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: But no, that's not that I'm just saying when they 194 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: do versus five hundred teams, just your final record. It's 195 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: not your record when the season starts and you will 196 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: one and oh or two and oh. But they should 197 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: have win. The Bucks are bad. 198 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 4: I'm just saying that was a good win at the time, 199 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 4: and I'm saying they should have right there with the Eagles. 200 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: They should have won. 201 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: The Ravens are under five hundred. The Bucks are under 202 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: five hundred. The only the only win that they got 203 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: over a good team now is the best. 204 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 4: And they were bad, and they didn't close out against 205 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 4: a handful of good teams they had to chack, for instance, 206 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 4: the Steelers, the Rams, the Packers. I mean, they didn't 207 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 4: close out. Absolutely wouldn't, right, That's what I'm saying. They 208 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 4: didn't close out against these teams that are good, neither 209 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 4: good or great teams that they had a chance to, all. 210 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 3: Right, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. 211 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 4: Now, they got a hope, they own a hope and 212 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 4: wishes they got to do their part win the last 213 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 4: two and then hope that you know they faught. 214 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: Away that niney you'll get you on the sub I mean, okay, 215 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 3: don't act like we ain't never seen it before. 216 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 217 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: the nation. 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Don't listen to the show so it 225 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: can get Camps. 226 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 3: What the heck get him, Polly fool. 227 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 5: Listen to the Pa Toy Foothsco Show on the iHeartRadio 228 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 5: app or wherever you get your podcast. 229 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: He's still moving. Big hullabaloo up there in the Bay. 230 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 5: Last night, in a game that should have been a 231 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 5: positive because for the first time in a hot second, 232 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 5: the Golden State Warriors got a good win. Stephen Curry 233 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 5: got went nuclear in the third quarter. They end up 234 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 5: don't be good team. They beat a playoff Orlando Magic 235 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 5: team by about twenty points going away. 236 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: You took that right, you say, we'll talk about later. 237 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 5: But the big headline to come out of this game 238 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 5: early in the second half. During a timeout, they were scuffling. 239 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 5: At that point, Steve Kerr and Draymond Green have a 240 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 5: little spat on the sideline. It culminates with Draymond Green 241 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 5: getting up and going to the locker room. He missed 242 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 5: about nine minutes of game action, so he was in 243 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 5: the back for about fifteen or fifteen twenty minutes or so. 244 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 5: Eventually comes back just before the start of the fourth quarter, 245 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 5: never takes off his warm ups, never gets back into 246 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 5: the game. Take a listen to both Steve Kerr and 247 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 5: Draymond after the game trying to explain. 248 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 3: Away what happened. 249 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 6: We got into it obviously, and you know, I took 250 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 6: the time out just because I thought we lost our 251 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 6: focus there a little bit, and we had it out 252 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 6: a little bit, and you know, he made his decision 253 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 6: to go back to the locker room to cool off. 254 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 7: And that's all I'm going to say about it. It's everything. 255 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 6: Everything is private, and yeah, I got I got nothing 256 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 6: further down. 257 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 8: He didn't play the last twenty minutes. Would you have 258 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 8: gone back to. 259 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 7: No, No, he wasn't. He wasn't going back yet. 260 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 8: And was that a decision by him. 261 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 7: Well he left, he went back to the locker room. 262 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 7: Tram On, what happened and why did you leave the bench? 263 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 3: Timper spilled over, and. 264 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 9: I just thought it was best. 265 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 8: I got it. 266 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 9: I don't think there was a situation where it was 267 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 9: going to get better, So that was just the best 268 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 9: to remove myself. 269 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 7: You know, that's it. 270 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 9: What cause the Argumentsketball that's what we do. We play basketball. 271 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 9: It's emotional game. You know, people lose their emotions sometimes 272 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 9: it happens. It is what it is. You know, we've 273 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 9: been at this now for a long time. You know, 274 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 9: sometimes you wait people for a long time. There's a 275 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 9: level of comfort and happens. We move forward. 276 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 8: I mean, do you feel like this all linger at all? Now? 277 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 3: We move forward? 278 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: You know what what, I'm glad he walked out on 279 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr, and Steve Kerr deserves all of it, all 280 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: the smoke. He has created this monster in Draymond Green 281 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: and to have him walk out on his teammates and 282 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: for it to be okay, and for I would have 283 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: told that dude, you better not come back out here. 284 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 3: Even if you're in the game, you better stay there. 285 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: If you're going to walk away, from your teammates when 286 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: you're trying to win a damn game. How dare Steve Kerr? 287 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: Why does he continue to come to this guy? Steve 288 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: curdle milk is what you should be called, because your 289 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: methods of coaching is ridiculous. He allowed him to suck 290 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of guy, never even gave him a suspension. 291 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: Let Draymond talk about he walked away from the team 292 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: and there was no discipline, and then they didn't want 293 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: to suspend him because they wanted to make sure he 294 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: was there for the ring ceremony so that he could 295 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: get daw would and said, you got suspended for ten games, 296 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: and we're giving out the wings on opening night and 297 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: you won't get George that night. I don't understand it. 298 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: How do the other players allow that you're another player 299 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: on the team. You're gonna let this guy walk out? 300 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: Everybody has disagreement. You can't walk out on your teammates. 301 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: What kind of coach had Steve Kerr turned into to 302 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: allow this guy to do whatever he wants and then 303 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: come back out Kelvin, Seriously, you play basketball, come back 304 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: out for one. You walked out on us. We're a team, 305 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: went together lose together. We can argue you can't walk out. 306 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. I don't understand Steve Kerr, but I'm glad 307 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: Dre mom he's giving you a ton of rope. Use 308 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: it make him look like the fool, because that's what. 309 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 3: It looks like. 310 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: Really, Steve Kerr has no control over the team. You 311 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: can walk out, don't come back here. You don't come 312 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: back and do you apologize to everybody on this bench 313 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: and this team and tell him it'll never happen again. 314 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: Come back at Oh, he wouldn't go back in the game. 315 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: And you know what tells you how week Steve Kerr? 316 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: Is you? 317 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 4: What the reporter said, What the reporter asked him was that, 318 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 4: d yours? What I was when I heard that? I 319 00:14:54,120 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 4: was like, what hold on? What ask him? That told 320 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 4: you that? That shows the leeway and the articulum, the 321 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 4: excuses that have been built all right, a couple things, 322 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: so you you touched on a lot of that. And 323 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 4: we disagree and argued all day yesterday we starting off 324 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 4: the show here mostly agreeing on this. This has been 325 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 4: something that's been built up with this team for now 326 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 4: ten fifteen, ten, twelve years. They've allowed things with Draymond 327 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 4: that have not been allowed with any other teammate. And 328 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 4: you just mentioned something, you said, well, why would somebody 329 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 4: else on the team should have been like, hey man, 330 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 4: you can't be doing that. That's the issue is that 331 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 4: their best player, Steph is not that kind of guy. 332 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 4: So Draymond would have Draymond. You get what I'm saying. 333 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 4: If there was another Draymond, Draymond would have Draymond greened 334 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 4: it right then. But there's nobody else who's built like that. 335 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 4: And so Steve Kerr has built and created where Draymond 336 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 4: gets away with stuff that nobody else could get with. 337 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 4: Because if Draymond tried to get away with the stuff 338 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 4: Draymond does, he would have let him know. 339 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: He would have checked out. 340 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: I do on, dont for one second, if Michael Jordan 341 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: was on that bench you to grab him and said. 342 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 3: Where the heck where you're going? 343 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 4: You go on opposite if you left, when you come back, No, 344 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 4: we're good, we good on you get back. Oh, we 345 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 4: don't need you. You didn't want to be a part 346 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 4: of this comeback just win whatever. We don't need you 347 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 4: right now. So let me elaborate on a couple other things. 348 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 4: I think Steve Kerr is so much indoctrinated with Phil 349 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 4: Jackson's ideology and the way Phil Jackson coach. 350 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: Phil Jackson was so unique. 351 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 4: He was telling Dennis Rodman, Hey, go blow steam off 352 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 4: in Vegas, and I think Steve Kerr adopted too much 353 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 4: of that, where I know I got different personalities. I 354 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: gotta allow this guy to do that. I gotta let 355 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 4: this guy do that. I'm gonna give him leeway, I'm 356 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 4: gonna be hard on him, and I think he's trying 357 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 4: to do that too much. Draymond has been allowed to 358 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 4: do too much. From a league standpoint, and from a 359 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: warrior standpoint, you can't stop people in the chest, punch 360 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 4: your own teammates, punch other people head like Rudy Gobert, 361 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 4: cuss people out, cuss Kevin Durant out that so much 362 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 4: so that he leads a team like how much more 363 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 4: can the man get away with? And that's the thing 364 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 4: that blows me away. And Steve Kerr has to have 365 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 4: a point where he puts his foot down or that 366 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 4: team who checks Draymond. Nobody does anybody in the organization 367 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 4: check Draymond. 368 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: Does the bully ever get bullied? 369 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 4: And it reminds me of a scene in one of 370 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 4: my favorite movies, Road to Perdition. Don't anybody ever see 371 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 4: Rode to Perdition. There's a scene where basically the head 372 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 4: boss man his son is just a terrible and competent gangster. 373 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 4: Tom Hanks is really the one who should be a son, 374 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 4: but he's not his biological son, the bad dude. The 375 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 4: bad son goes off dustin wild stuff and even hurts 376 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 4: Tom Hanks's kids, shoot kills his family and everything. And 377 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 4: then basically Tom finally gets to him and he says, well, 378 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 4: why you let him do that? And he said, well, 379 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 4: asked my son, what do you want me to do? 380 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 4: And that's what Steve Curzy created where they look at 381 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 4: Draymond and go, well, I mean that's our guy. 382 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 3: What do you want us to do? 383 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 4: No, somebody check him, because then he gets all philosophical 384 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 4: at the press conferences. 385 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 3: Oh man, well, just you know you're too old, Raymond. 386 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 4: You've been doing this for too long, and at some 387 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 4: point you expect somebody from top down the Warriors to 388 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 4: check him, and it never. 389 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 3: I just can't believe. 390 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 4: I can't believe that somebody's supposed to have been punched the bully. 391 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 4: I'm talking in the NBA as a whole, we've said 392 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 4: that all somebody was supposed to have been Chin checked him. 393 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 4: Somebody gets away with so much throughout this league from 394 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 4: a league standpoint to the team organizationally within his own 395 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 4: locker room, checking his coach. And again, guys get into 396 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 4: a coach and get into a place he's saying that 397 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 4: you can have it. 398 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: You just walk away because remember what he said, Draymond 399 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 3: said this. We didn't air this part. 400 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 4: He said, I walked away so that it wouldn't get 401 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: worse like what you're gonna punch. 402 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 3: Steve Right. 403 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,479 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 404 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington week days at seven 405 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: pm Eastern, four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and 406 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. 407 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 4: Now, Steve just mentioned there Rob G Kyle Whittingham with 408 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 4: the Utah Use for twenty one seasons now is the 409 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 4: Michigan Wolverrenes head football coach and uh and it comes 410 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 4: with agaves a lot of us success out there in Utah. 411 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, it's kind of surprising that happened the way 412 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 5: it did. Consider about a month and a half ago. 413 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 5: Kyle Winningham was trying to be forced into early retirement 414 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 5: by the people in Utah. They decided they'd had enough 415 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 5: of him. They wanted him to go out and kind 416 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 5: of leave them alone. And he said, I'm not retiring, 417 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 5: I'm kind of entering the transfer portal. All it took 418 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 5: was a Sharon Moore misstep to now he's the new 419 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 5: headman at Michigan. He's got a five year deal and 420 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 5: at sixty six years old, brighter days, they're ahead in 421 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 5: ann Arboro. I'm sorry, I'm not buying this. All these 422 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 5: young guys out here, these young coaches. A sixty six 423 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 5: year old guy, you give him a five year contract? 424 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 5: Thumbs down on this. This is Pete Carroll two point 425 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 5: zero and winning him. 426 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: No, it is a pork chop and a Deli sandwich 427 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: and ann Arborough away from from uh, I'm not here. 428 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 4: See how many ribs is? How many ribs is? Rob 429 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 4: Parker away? 430 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm Chris Rock and I'm gonna get 431 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: you sucker right? One rib? How much for one rig? 432 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: You? 433 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 3: How are you gonna be ages? You're dad near the 434 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 3: same age. We're not even close to the same, are 435 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: you at? 436 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 5: Mean? 437 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 3: Your birthday is next month. How old will you be? 438 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: Bah blah blah. I'm talking about I'm not gonna put 439 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: you out there because but. 440 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 4: No. Seven of them saying sixty two, sixty three in January, No. 441 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 3: Sixty two in January. He's a man of the six. 442 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 3: He's been after like this, eighty six. 443 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: He's been in Utah for twenty one years? Are you 444 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: nothing good has ever come out of Utah? Can you 445 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: give me something the good that's come out of Utah 446 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: twenty one years? 447 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 3: That's the best Michigan can do. Johnny Utah from point right, 448 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 3: because that's the best Michigan can do. 449 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: A sixty six year old guy as their head coach 450 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: and give that guy a five year contract taking him 451 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: into his seventies. 452 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 3: That's a bad liar. 453 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 4: That's Here's here's why I think it'll work for exactly 454 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 4: that duration of the contract, three to five years. 455 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: Here's why do I think this is? 456 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 4: Obviously you're got your your You're twenty years ago, Nick Saban, 457 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 4: give her take. No, But what I think you do 458 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 4: have is a guy who all of a sudden can 459 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 4: get this thing right because he has been very successful 460 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 4: in Utah. 461 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 3: I mean undefeated, seasons ten to two seasons. 462 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 4: Beating USC, beaten all the Pac twelve teams he had 463 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 4: to beat. 464 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: That's why I asked him, that's why he entered the 465 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: Trent because they didn't just think why they didn't want 466 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: to make I'm gonna. 467 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 4: Tell you, man, that's perfectly fine, because things run their course. 468 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 4: We talk about this all the time. Mike Tomlin hasn't 469 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 4: had a bad season, but it might be time to 470 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 4: go away. You talk about John Harpo who hasn't really 471 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 4: had a bad season, but it might be time to 472 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 4: go away. 473 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 3: It happens. 474 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 4: Twenty one season with anyone is a long time. So 475 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 4: I think the given what he has been able to 476 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 4: do for so many years in Utah, make them a 477 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 4: very relevant team, always in the top twenty, always the 478 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 4: top fifteen for that times. And then you have it 479 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 4: now with Michigan's and dominate resources with Michigan's ability to 480 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 4: get some commitments. 481 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just say you just got a text from 482 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: Charles Barkley. He said two good things did come out 483 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: of Utah. You ready, John starked in and called him alone. 484 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: All right, Charles, you might have that right. 485 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: That's the best. That's the best that came out of 486 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 3: Utah right there. That's about it, Charles, I'm sorry. Nothing else. 487 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 3: You can't even get a drink at a bar in Utah. 488 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 3: You know that Songilake City. 489 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 4: You ain't lying about that, listens, And that might be 490 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 4: why he didn't want to call it quits. He might 491 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 4: still have some party in them and some going on 492 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 4: the drinking them. Come on out to somewhere else. Can't 493 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 4: do that in Utah. But I think this is absolutely 494 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 4: a stopgap. 495 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 3: Rob. 496 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 4: I don't think they found their guy of the future. 497 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 4: They didn't find their twenty year stretch guy. They're still 498 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 4: looking for that. But this is a guy who could 499 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 4: come in. He's known for discipline, he's known for physicality, 500 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 4: which are two things that will go well in that harbor. 501 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 4: And if he can do what he did in Utah 502 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 4: with the resources and in the commitments and recruits, he 503 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 4: should be able to get. With that big blue Michigan 504 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 4: behind him, he should do very well. 505 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just a national title before he leaves. 506 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: Is he gonna win one? 507 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: If you would have give, if you would, if you 508 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: would have say to me, he's gonna He's gonna win 509 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: the national championship. I can't buy it. Ohio State's there. 510 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: They're not going anywhere. They still have a young. 511 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 3: Vibe win this year Indiana about the. 512 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: B K, Yeah, okay, but they have a young, vibrant coach. 513 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: They don't have some old man who's sixty six years old. 514 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: Oregon's rolland where where they were champions going. 515 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 3: Outould hear this age ism from you? 516 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 4: I'll give you the seventy the seventy threes, Bill Belichick, 517 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: the seventy fours and the and the Pete Carroll's and 518 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 4: all that. I'll give you that. What is the we're 519 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 4: in the same high school together. No, we were not, 520 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 4: you know, we were not. 521 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 3: It was a senior. You don't know. If he got 522 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 3: held back one time, he might. 523 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: Be a super What is the average retirement age in 524 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: the United States? 525 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 3: Do you know what it is? Yes, seventy two? Now 526 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 3: it's sixty five. It ain't sixty five? Who is? 527 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: It's fine, he's already sixty six. And they gave him 528 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: a five year retirement package. 529 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 4: And listen what they gave him, and Nick saving that 530 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 4: I'm coming back to Alabama. They would kick the boar 531 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 4: out of there so fast and tell him come on 532 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 4: back and he's seventy some years old. 533 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 3: I'm with you on the Pete Carrolls and the movies 534 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: like that. Sixty six. For a three to five year runway, 535 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 3: it can work.