1 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: Everyone watches poor No and if they say they don't, 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: their motherfucking liars. 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: Kid Rock. I do porno because that's what makes me happy. 4 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 2: I fuck all day, I get money. I love what 5 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: I'm doing. There is something wrong with that, Faco sa 6 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: Frede performer. 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 3: People often say that the world would be so much 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 3: better if it were run by women, But women have 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 3: as many faults as men. Their faults are just different. 10 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: So the truth is that the world would not be better 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 3: if it were run by a woman. It would be 12 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 3: better if it were run by the right woman. Jenna Jamison, 13 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 3: Welcome to Jeno World. 14 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god, this so good. 15 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: What does pornography reveal about the American sexual psyche? Critics 16 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 4: say that porn degrades and disposes of its workers, So 17 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 4: what's the difference between that and any other job? And 18 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 4: what are we to make of performers who transcended their 19 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 4: alleged disposability and created profitable brands around their screen personas, 20 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 4: like the porn star Jenna Jamison did in the nineties 21 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 4: and two thousands when she made herself into a brand 22 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 4: and became queen of all media. But also, why should 23 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 4: anyone have to become a brand? Just to survive in America? 24 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 4: Why would anyone want to be famous? And then why 25 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 4: would everyone want to be famous? How did a parasocial 26 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: connection with a voyeuristic audience become mandatory for everyone with 27 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 4: the advent of social media? How do we maintain autonomy 28 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 4: in the attention economy? And why is the right wing 29 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 4: actively trying to make pornography illegal again? How can I 30 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 4: nut ethically? Welcome to Jena World Jenna Jamison Vivid Video 31 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 4: in the Valley. I'm your host, Molly Lambert. You may 32 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: remember me from Heidi World, the Heidi Flyfe Story and 33 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 4: the Secret History of LA. This time, I'll be your 34 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 4: tour guide for Genal World, a narrative nonfiction podcast about 35 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 4: the history of the adult film industry, telling the story 36 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 4: of porn superstar Jenna Jamison and a cavalcade of the 37 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 4: people who make up the colorful world of X rated films. 38 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 4: It's the crazy saga of the rise, fall, and rebirth 39 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 4: of the adult film industry. It has sex, drugs, art, 40 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 4: lots and lots of money, rock and roll, filmmaking, TV, 41 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 4: Howard Stern, the Internet, family, and even. 42 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 5: Love, love, sex love, sex, love, sex, love, sex, love, 43 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 5: sex love sex. 44 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 4: In the nineteen seventies, eighties, and early nineties, mainstream media 45 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 4: used the tragic stories of several adult film stars to 46 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 4: paint the porn industry as an inherently bad workplace that 47 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 4: degrades women and leads its performers into addiction and an 48 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 4: early grave. In the nineties, adult actress Jenna Jamison crossed 49 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 4: over into mainstream pop culture and helped to normalize making 50 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: porn as just another occupation. During her two thousands media peak, 51 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 4: Jenna helped popularize the radical idea that sex work is 52 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 4: a real job, requiring safe work conditions and fair wages. 53 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 4: The idea that women are sexual beings who aren't degraded 54 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 4: by sex on or off camera remains controversial. After being 55 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 4: legalized in the nineteen seventies, porn is now under attack 56 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 4: on multiple fronts. There are the conservatives who want to 57 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 4: ban porn entirely with Project twenty twenty five and began 58 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 4: a new era of sexual repression. There's also the nightmarish 59 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 4: rise of AI porn, which aims to cut out adult 60 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 4: performers entirely while simultaneously exploiting their images to train visual 61 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 4: models and promote deeply unethical stuff like face swapping filters. 62 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 4: And there's the puritanical way online platforms like TikTok and 63 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 4: Instagram use sexually suggestive content to lure in viewers while 64 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 4: punishing and banning actual sex workers from selling and promoting 65 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 4: their content online. Whatever you think about porn, its continued 66 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 4: legal existence is vital to American freedom of speech. It 67 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 4: is imperative that sexual content remains protected under the law. 68 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 6: Sex isn't something men do to you. It isn't something 69 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 6: men get out of you. Sex is something you can 70 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 6: dive into with Gusto and like it every bit as 71 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 6: much as he does. Nina Hartley. 72 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 4: Performer Jenna Jamison combined her talent at performing on screen, 73 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 4: skill for marketing herself, an ability to speak up smartly 74 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 4: for sex workers during what would turn out to be 75 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 4: porn's last financial golden era. If she managed to make 76 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 4: both art and money from an industry that is deeply 77 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 4: corrupt and set up to exploit artists, well, that just 78 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 4: makes her a woman in film. 79 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: I'm a powerful woman. I think that's intimidating to a 80 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: man on every level. That's why I always go out 81 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: of my way to be ultra nice and ultra sweet 82 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: and COI because it makes people feel comfortable, and I 83 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 3: want people to feel comfortable around me before I put 84 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 3: them in a headlock. 85 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 4: This is a story about the American dream at the 86 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 4: end of the twentieth century and the collapse of the 87 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 4: American Empire at the turn of the twenty first. It's 88 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 4: about one woman's self directed rise to power in an 89 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 4: industry that was unknowingly experiencing its final rise to one 90 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 4: last big climax of profit. It's about the people who 91 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 4: make adult films and the place they once made them, 92 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 4: LA's San Fernando Valley Suburbs. This is an American fable 93 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 4: about money, love, sex, and familia. People seem to forget 94 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 4: that adult performers are actors playing roles, and because there's 95 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 4: now so little depiction of sex and mainstream American media, 96 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 4: Horn takes on the load, so to speak, of representing 97 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 4: all sex and intimacy, which it was never meant to do. 98 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: Porn depicts sexual fantasies about power and control, and what 99 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 4: people like to watch doesn't necessarily correlate to what they 100 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 4: like in real life. Oh my god, honey, there's a 101 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 4: lot of fear mongering that easy access to porn sexually 102 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 4: dead ends its viewers, but nobody gives viewers credit for 103 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 4: being able to differentiate media from real life. Consuming sexual 104 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 4: images cannot be compared to, nor will it ever replace, 105 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 4: the human experience of touching a real person's body. Is 106 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 4: porn really the reason idealized images of beauty are becoming 107 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 4: ever more unreachable? Or is porn just an easy target 108 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 4: to deflect away from larger issues of how the human 109 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 4: image can be visually idealized into an imaginary fantasy, a 110 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 4: tradition that goes all through art history. I'm just asking questions, 111 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 4: much like Joe Rogan, who will show up here later on. 112 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: We get paid more than the men we call the shots. 113 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 3: We say who we want to work with. In what 114 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: way is that degrading? That's us taking hold of our 115 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 3: life life. 116 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 4: The history of porn is also about shifting media format. 117 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 4: As a medium, porn is always changing to fit new 118 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 4: technology and always slightly ahead of mainstream media. Paul Thomas 119 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 4: Anderson's Boogie Nights covered the eighties shift from film to video, 120 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 4: when porn moved from theaters into homes with VHS players. 121 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 4: Porn had its own studio system, which began in the 122 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 4: seventies peaked with DVDs in the early two thousands and 123 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 4: collapsed as streaming online content to hold just ahead of 124 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 4: the mainstream Hollywood studio system collapsing into streaming. Jenna Jamison 125 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 4: bridged the gap between the old age of print magazines, videotapes, 126 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 4: and DVDs and the new era of websites, social media, 127 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 4: and streams. During her reign as the of porn she 128 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 4: epitomized the perks and pitfalls of selling your personality and 129 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 4: physical image for profit. Where being camera ready was once 130 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 4: reserved for professional performers, now everybody knows how to perform 131 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 4: when a camera is on, and a camera is almost 132 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 4: always on. Your porn has always reflected American culture back 133 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 4: to itself. It's possible to consume media and not agree 134 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 4: with its politics or take them on. I call this 135 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 4: the top Gun theory. Watching Top Gun doesn't mean you 136 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 4: suddenly endorse the US military or that you believe Tom 137 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 4: Cruise is an ace military pilot in real life. For 138 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 4: some reason, we seem to know that movies like Top 139 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 4: Gun are just movies, that they're fantasies. But when it 140 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 4: comes to porn, there's some kind of slipperiness. The nineties 141 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 4: also saw the popularization of third wave feminism, which embraced 142 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 4: an idea that women could use sexual allure as part 143 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 4: of their self concept of power. I did not anticipate 144 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 4: that the feminists rise to power in the bedroom and 145 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 4: boardroom by postmodern girl boss media stars like Madonna and 146 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 4: Jenna Jamison would be followed by decades of sexist backlash. 147 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 4: In real life, desire and beauty are deeply subjective and individualized. 148 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: If everybody was only attracted to one media ideal of beauty, 149 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 4: it would be eugenics. I don't think we're going to 150 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 4: completely eradicate unreachable beauty ideals, which span from the Venus 151 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 4: of Willendorf to big titty hentai Ai. But I do 152 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 4: think we've lost the plot when it comes to media 153 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 4: literacy and knowing that the images on screen are false fantasies. 154 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 4: We need to move past the seductive perfection of idealized 155 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 4: images into the messiness of real attraction, intimacy, and the 156 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 4: soft fallibility of human bodies. Making horny movies like any 157 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 4: job can be done fairly or in a way that 158 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 4: explodes it's its workers. Growing up in the Valley, I've 159 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 4: always been interested in porn as a low budget secondary 160 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: film industry that went from a legal too autorist cranking 161 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 4: out films that briefly made more money than Hollywood's despite 162 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 4: most people being too embarrassed to admit they watch. 163 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 3: The best sex takes place in the mind first. 164 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 4: For a young, beautiful woman, the possibilities seem endless. You 165 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 4: can try cashing in on your youth and beauty, but 166 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 4: you will run out of collateral and need other skills 167 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 4: to fall back on. Eventually, you might make a lot 168 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 4: of money if you're smart, lucky, and cash out at 169 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 4: the right time, but there's also a high chance you'll 170 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 4: lose it all to the house, which almost always wins. 171 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 4: If you're not careful. You might also get caught up 172 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 4: in the high rollers' lifestyle, addicted to spending money and 173 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 4: gambling with your life in an endless party that leaves 174 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 4: you feeling empty inside. You could even start to lose 175 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 4: your own sense of self to the perfect image up 176 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 4: on the screen. 177 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: In this business, you get to see all the double 178 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: standards that women are held to in society, and it 179 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: is important to keep from perpetuating them. One way is 180 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: by refusing to allow anyone to disrespect you. 181 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 4: So what do you do if you're a young woman 182 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 4: who exactly fits the beauty standards of your era as 183 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 4: a skinny, white blonde with big boobs, and you want 184 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 4: to become independent from your family and escape medical debt 185 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 4: induced poverty. Working against you is the limited timeline afforded 186 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 4: women who become valued as sex symbols by heterosexual men, 187 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 4: as well as possibilities. You might burn out from overwork, 188 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 4: only climb up halfway, or fall off entirely. If you're 189 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 4: Jenna Jamison, you spin the Roulette wheel of faith. 190 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 7: I remember Jenna. You know she was so beautiful. I 191 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 7: was pretty overwhelmed. I knew that Jenna was going to 192 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 7: be a heartbreaker right away. Larry Mizzoli, Jenna's father. 193 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 3: I miss my mother more than I can express. 194 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: Jenna Marie Mizzoli is born on April ninth, nineteen seventy four, 195 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 4: in Las Vegas, Nevada, and Aires. Her mother is a 196 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 4: showgirl and her daddy is a cop. This is how 197 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 4: Jenna's parents met and fell in love. Lawrence Larry Mizzoli 198 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 4: is born in San Joaquin County, California, in nineteen thirty nine. 199 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 4: His mother, Wanna Lee Dilbeck, Missoli is an Oklahoman whose family, 200 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: the Dilbecks, goes back to the British colonists. His father, 201 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 4: Henry Lawrence Massoli, is the son of Italians who immigrated 202 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: to San Francisco's Little Italy. The Missoli's claim of family 203 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 4: connection to Italian American nineteen fifties baseball star Joe DiMaggio, 204 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 4: allegedly Jenna's grandfather's second cousin, Jolton. Joe DiMaggio gained his 205 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 4: fame as a New York Yankee, but he was born 206 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 4: Giuseppe Paolo DiMaggio in Martinez, California, to Sicilian immigrants delivered 207 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 4: into a family dynasty of fishermen. I couldn't verify the 208 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 4: Massoli DiMaggio connection, but I do believe all the Italians 209 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 4: living in northern California at that time made a nice 210 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 4: sacchi a pio. After high school, Larry Massoli joins the military, 211 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 4: gets sent to Vietnam, and becomes a cold blooded mass murderer. 212 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 4: The United States government then asks him to go to 213 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 4: the Congo as part of a CIA program to trade 214 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 4: counter insurgents during the Simba Rebellion. 215 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 7: It's interesting because when you first go over there, you know, 216 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 7: you try to be so righteous. And I grew up 217 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 7: with Roy Rogers and Gene Autry, and they never shot 218 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 7: anyone in the back, you know, his white hats against 219 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 7: the black hats, and yet to do everything fair. While 220 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 7: I found out and war the best way to come 221 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 7: home alive is to sneak up on people and shoot them. 222 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 4: Larry Mossoli briefly tries to retain his humanity under the 223 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 4: conditions of warfare, but quickly descends into killing everybody in sight, 224 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 4: including innocent civilians. The United States government gives him its 225 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 4: most violent toys for the massacre. 226 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 7: I'll come up to a village and instead of going 227 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 7: house to house, I would level the whole place. Now, 228 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,359 Speaker 7: I'll call in the P fifty one mustangs. We used napalm. 229 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 7: I had a contingent of Howitz's and we went from 230 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 7: village to village, killing them all. We just didn't care. 231 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 7: We didn't care. 232 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 4: Rather than war turning him to pacifism, Larry Mizzoli becomes 233 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 4: a steward of American violence back home too, first for 234 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 4: the Italian mafia and then as a cop. He funnels 235 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 4: his post traumatic stress into more violence because he's too 236 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 4: fucked up to function normally in society. 237 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 7: I couldn't cope in the world, you know, I couldn't 238 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 7: carry on a conversation. 239 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 4: When jenal World returns, we'll find out how Jenna's parents 240 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 4: met and fell in love. Oh yeah, welcome back to 241 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 4: jenal World. Jenna's mother, Judy, is born Judith Brook Hunt 242 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 4: in Wichita, Kansas, on April twenty second, nineteen forty one. 243 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 4: A Taurus. Her parents are Doane Casper Hunt and Audrey E. 244 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 4: Smith Hunt. The Hunt side of the family consists of 245 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 4: German immigrants to the Midwest and more British colonists. 246 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 7: There was no one else in the world for me 247 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 7: but Judy, the only woman I ever loved. Twelve years 248 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 7: that we were together, I didn't even look at another woman, 249 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 7: and finding her was like a fairy tale. You read 250 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 7: about these perfect love stories, but you never think they're 251 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 7: going to happen to you. 252 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 4: Larry miss Oli ends up in the biggest little city, Reno, Nevada, 253 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 4: working a dubious job in partying. Larry's crew in Reno 254 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 4: includes Johnny Anastasia, nephew of Umberto albert Anastasia. Albert Anastasia 255 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 4: was a mob guy nicknamed the executioner who was instrumental 256 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 4: in murder incorporated the mafia's contract killing branch. Larry miss 257 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 4: Oli is also good friends with another NEPO baby of 258 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: a famous man connected to the mob, Frank Sinatra Junior. 259 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 8: The guy was drunk. He said, you're a singer. You're 260 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 8: a Sinatra. Ain'tia? I said, if I'm standing in a 261 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 8: garage doesn't mean I'm a car. I couldn't stand it. 262 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 8: Here my own voice, Frank Sinai Junior. 263 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 4: Frank Sinatra Junior has a long standing engagement at the 264 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 4: Harris Casino in Reno. Living in the shadow of his 265 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 4: ultra successful father provides him the publicity benefits of the 266 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: Sinatra name, but with it comes the downside of having 267 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 4: a famous workaholic father who is almost never around in 268 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 4: an era when fathers weren't expected to do much hands 269 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 4: on parenting anyway. 270 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 8: At home, he was dad. He was terribly, terribly human. 271 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 8: This is what the penalty is when you have someone 272 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,959 Speaker 8: that has been famous for so long, the legend starts 273 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 8: to eclipse. 274 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 7: The man. 275 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 4: Nevada holds special meeting for Frank Sinatra Junior at nineteen, 276 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 4: while trying to launch his own singing career, he was 277 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 4: kidnapped for ransom. This finally got his dad's attention, and 278 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 4: Frank Junior was safely handed back to Frank Senior in Reno. 279 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 4: The media spectacle of Frank Sinatra's sons kidnapping and safe 280 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 4: return was drowned out by a much bigger media spectacle 281 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 4: a few days earlier, the killing of President John F. 282 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 4: Kennedy during a motorcade in Dallas. Larry Is also budds 283 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 4: with William F. Harra, son of rich politician and lawyer 284 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 4: John Harra. Gambling was illegal in the state of California, 285 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 4: so Bill Harra developed a workaround for bingo called the 286 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 4: Reno Game. The authorities repeatedly shut Bill Harra down, but 287 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 4: his dad would bail him out. In nineteen thirty seven, 288 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 4: Bill Harra took his Reno Game to Reno itself, where 289 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 4: gambling had been legalized in nineteen thirty one, along with 290 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 4: fast divorces, in an effort to create tourism there. Bill 291 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 4: Harra became a guiding force in Nevada's casino development and 292 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 4: gambling regulation laws. He was married six times, including a 293 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 4: four month long marriage to country singer Bobby Gentry in 294 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 4: nineteen sixty nine that inspired her to write Fancy, a 295 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 4: story song about a poor teenage girl who becomes an 296 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 4: escort to sugar daddies and remains proud of her life choices. 297 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 4: Fancy is a huge hit for Gentry and a breakthrough 298 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 4: women's lib song for the Old boys Club of mainstream country. 299 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 4: Larry miss Oli, Frank Sinatra Junior, and the executioner's nephew 300 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 4: spend their nights carousing in Reno. They often end up 301 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 4: at Bill Harra's house, where Bill invites old stars like 302 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 4: Mickey Rooney to hang out. They bring party girls over 303 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 4: to Bill's place in limos chartered from the local clubs. 304 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 4: They have their own reserved tables at every joint in town, 305 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 4: including one called the Golden Hotel. There's always a warm 306 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 4: seat ready for Larry. At the Golden Hotel's showgirl review 307 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 4: the Golden Girls. One night. Among the lineup of gorgeous 308 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 4: goals and sequins and feathers, Larry spots a new show 309 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 4: girl with blue eyes, a deep tan, dark coal cat eyeliner, 310 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 4: and nude frosted lips. She's a natural blonde under the 311 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 4: black Cleopatra wig she wears for the show. 312 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 7: From the moment I laid eyes on Judy, I knew 313 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 7: she was the one. I mean, even though she was 314 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 7: one of identically costume women on stage, she just radiated 315 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 7: in comparison to everyone else. I mean, to this day, 316 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 7: I still can't explain it. 317 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: Now. 318 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 7: I certainly wasn't expecting it. It's like what my mother 319 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 7: used to say about being struck by lightning. Now I 320 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 7: looked at her, she looked at me, and I went, WHOA, 321 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 7: that was it. It was amazing. I mean, that had 322 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 7: never happened to me in my life. 323 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 4: Larry already has a girlfriend named Barbara, who works as 324 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 4: a Marilyn Monroe impersonator, but he sidelines her to pursue 325 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 4: Judy while the other show girls come out to the 326 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 4: lobby to shoot their shot with the high rollers each 327 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 4: night after the show. Judy is shy and always stays backstage. 328 00:21:55,040 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 4: This only strengthens Larry's resolved to meet her. Judy already 329 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 4: has a boyfriend too, a local bartender, but one night 330 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 4: Larry convinces Judy to join him and his friend's roving 331 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 4: after party. Larry tells Judy he works at a grocery store, 332 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: but he sure knows a lot of celebrity's sons and 333 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 4: other well connected people in Reno for a bag boy. 334 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 4: Larry and his friends have a security detail of football 335 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 4: players from the University of Nevada, and Frank Sinatra Junior 336 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 4: has his own bodyguard on account of the kidnapping his quarterback. 337 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: Bodyguard scare off Judy's boyfriend and bring back in tell 338 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 4: that Judy is a twenty year old virgin. Judy lets 339 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 4: Larry buy her one ice cold coke and he takes 340 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 4: her to see his good friend Frank Sinatra Junior performing 341 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 4: at the Reno Haas. Judy decides he is worthy of 342 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 4: devirginizing her if he makes her an honest woman. Larry 343 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 4: doesn't want to settle down and commit to one woman 344 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 4: for the rest of his life quite yet, but he 345 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 4: knows this is his one shot with Judy and he 346 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 4: doesn't want to fuck it up up. After they consummate things, 347 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 4: he starts weeping because he feels so close to her. 348 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 4: He proposes shortly after, and she accepts. Now engaged, he 349 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 4: comes clean about his real profession, hijacking trucks carrying fur 350 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 4: coats and stereos for organized crime. She accepts this about 351 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 4: him too. 352 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 7: Judy was an extremely intelligent girl from which Tuk Kansas, 353 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 7: you know, not jaded, not very worldly, but very genuine, 354 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 7: you know, very sweet. Judy's whole thrust in life was 355 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 7: to be a wife and mother. 356 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 3: In the few pictures I have of my mom, she 357 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 3: looks so beautiful, fragile and sophisticated, like a swinging London model. 358 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 4: Showgirls are sexual fantasies made it to commerce. Semi nude 359 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 4: erotic dancers originate in Paris at clubs like the original 360 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 4: Follies Burgeire and the Moulin Rouge, while burlesque dancers have 361 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 4: been taking their clothes off in the US for years. 362 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 4: The showgirl review concept comes to America in nineteen oh 363 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 4: seven via Broadway impresario Florenz Zigfield Junior, who make stage 364 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 4: stars out of his Zigfield Girls. In nineteen eighteen, Follies 365 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 4: Burgeire introduces the first nude showgirls in Paris. Showgirls make 366 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 4: their Las Vegas debut in nineteen forty one at the 367 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 4: l Rancho Hotel Casino during breaks between musical acts. In 368 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 4: nineteen fifty two, the Sans Casino introduces showgirls wearing the flashy, 369 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 4: spangled peacocky costumes that become their signature Las Vegas look. 370 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 4: During the fifties, there are publicity wars between the showgirl 371 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 4: reviews and the flourishing casino ecosystem. The battle to have 372 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 4: the most glamorous showgirls advances at rappac mainstays like the 373 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 4: Desert Inn and the Sands. As showgirls take center stage 374 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 4: with their own shows. The idea of beautiful semi clad 375 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 4: women as diversion between acts, turns into boxing match ring girls. 376 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 4: In nineteen fifty seven, Harold Minsky, the adopted son whose 377 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 4: heir to the New York burlesque dynasty. Minskis brings topless 378 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 4: dancing to Las Vegas, escalating the casino arms race to 379 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 4: produce the most spectacular live show. The Tropicana, known as 380 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 4: the Trop is the luxurious crown jewel of the Vegas strip. 381 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 4: The Parisian Follies Bergeire franchises itself there in December of 382 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 4: nineteen fifty nine, advertising its shows as the cultural intersection 383 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 4: of Broadway and Hollywood in the Desert. Like all Vegas 384 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 4: stunts and frills, showgirls are bait to draw tourists into 385 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 4: the casinos to gamble. The trop crowd wears evening gowns 386 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 4: and suits to the Follies Burgeire show at the Fountain Theatre, 387 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 4: which is known as the Pink Room for its flamingo 388 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 4: pink furniture and curtains. The Trop has a net over 389 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 4: the orchestra pit because of how often the showgirls and 390 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 4: heavy headpieces topple off the stage. 391 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 7: I quit my job, I sold everything I had. I 392 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 7: got in my car and I drove to Vegas and 393 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 7: we got married. And if she lived, I would still 394 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 7: be married to her to this day. You know I 395 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 7: would never have left her. Let me tell you. It 396 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 7: was the best twelve years of my life, even if 397 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 7: I had the worst life in the world. Afterward, I 398 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 7: knew I'd always have that. I mean, who gets so lucky? 399 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 4: Judy gets hired at the Trop for the Follies burge Aire. 400 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 4: The newlywed Missolis immediately start trying to get pregnant, but 401 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 4: have no luck, so they turned to the professionals, scientologists. 402 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 4: Larry's brother in law has spent time in Scientology's private navy, 403 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 4: known as the Sea Organization or Sea ORG, having sailed 404 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 4: on Sea Org's flagship, the Apollo, with Commodore Lafayette. L 405 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 4: Ronald Hubbard He turns them on to dianetics. They take 406 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 4: courses they find pricey but useful. Judy gets pregnant. They 407 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 4: have a son they name Anthony Lawrence. When Larry is 408 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 4: thirty four and Judy is thirty two, they have a 409 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 4: daughter they named Jenna Marie. 410 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 7: She came out of the womb with a smile on 411 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 7: her face. 412 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, there was another little entity, and 413 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: I had to share that universe. Tony Mussuli, Jenna's brother. 414 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 4: Larry's brother in law, helps him get a steady job too, 415 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 4: working at KSNV, an NBC Network affiliate TV station in Vegas. 416 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 4: Sometimes Larry lets little Jenna come into the studio, sit 417 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 4: behind the news desk between broadcasts, and read off the 418 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 4: teleprompter into the camera. 419 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 3: I was really in it and really good at it. 420 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 4: In nineteen seventy five, Judy Massoli gets a mole on 421 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 4: her shoulder checked out and is informed it's malignant. She 422 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 4: is diagnosed with melanoma, which quickly escalates. The Masoli clan 423 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 4: has to watch helplessly as skin cancer ravages Judy, who 424 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 4: becomes too weak from her chemotherapy treatment to take care 425 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 4: of her children or herself. The family is drained emotionally 426 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 4: and financially from the medical bills for her treatments. Even 427 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 4: though Larry's making six figures working at the TV channel, 428 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 4: He's losing it all, trying anything, in everything to save 429 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 4: Judy's life. 430 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 7: She became very ill. 431 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 3: She couldn't bathe herself, she couldn't get up out of bed, 432 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 3: she lost all her hair. I can remember so vividly 433 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 3: her screaming at night from the pain. 434 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 4: Larry sleeps by her bedside with morphine. Judy doesn't want 435 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 4: the kids to see her because she looks so sick. 436 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 4: Larry convinces himself she'll make a miraculous recovery, but she doesn't. 437 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 4: Judith Brooke Hunt miss Oli dies on February twentieth, nineteen 438 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,719 Speaker 4: seventy six, when Jenna is almost two. Larry calls an 439 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 4: ambulance and puts the kids in a room so they 440 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 4: won't have to see their mom's lifeless body. 441 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 7: They've given her about six months to live and she 442 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 7: only lived about ninety days. 443 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 4: Larry, miss Oli just wants to man up and move forward. 444 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 4: But trauma doesn't desensitize you to new trauma. It just 445 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 4: keeps stacking up already too emotionally fucked up from war 446 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 4: to deal with processing his own feelings. He's now also 447 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 4: too fucked up emotionally to deal with the aftermath of 448 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 4: his wife's death. Jenna turns too, and starts having trouble 449 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 4: sleeping at night. Now five hundred thousand dollars in debt 450 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 4: for his wife's palliative care, the bank comes for Larry's assets, 451 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 4: his vehicles, a boat, and an apartment building he landlords. 452 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 4: Even after that, he's still left with a mound of debt, 453 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 4: so the family moves out of their suburban house into 454 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 4: a trailer park. Larry develops nervous exhaustion and ticks from 455 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 4: the stress. He takes the kids to their mother's grave 456 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 4: regularly at first, and then stops thinking about The loss 457 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 4: is too much for any of them. 458 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 7: People don't want to be around death and grief. It's 459 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 7: one of those things a person has to go through 460 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 7: on their own. 461 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 4: From that moment on, Jenna's father is haunted by his 462 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 4: love for Judy, left with only memories and photos of 463 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 4: his beautiful, vibrant wife and their two children together as 464 00:30:59,240 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 4: living souvenir. 465 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 3: I just remember being so incredibly confused, you know, I 466 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 3: wasn't diapers. I was just a little kid, and to 467 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 3: have your mother ripped away from you that way devastated 468 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 3: me and changed the whole course of my life. 469 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 7: That woman was my life. There was nobody else in 470 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 7: the world for me, and I have never been able 471 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 7: to recover from that loss. Never you spend the rest 472 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 7: of your life just searching. 473 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 4: A few years later, five year old Jenna and seven 474 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 4: year old Tony looked like the children of the Corn, 475 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 4: with matching shaggy blonde mops of hair. Tony wears a 476 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 4: Superman logo T shirt and Jenna wears little ski jackets, 477 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 4: primary color shirts and pinafore dresses. She's a naturally rambunctious kid, 478 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 4: a fearless tomboy who likes to test her own limits 479 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 4: by doing cannonballs into the local pool. 480 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: I remember the pool incident. This was a turning point 481 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 3: in my life. I would just go so far to 482 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 3: get everyone's attention. I would do anything it took. 483 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: Jenna always threw caution to the wind. 484 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 485 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 7: I would just go out in the middle of the 486 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 7: pool and try to coax my son into diving into 487 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 7: the pool, and Jenna would be standing next to him 488 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 7: in her diapers just watching me, and instead of my 489 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 7: son diving in courageously, Jenna would. 490 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 4: There's a picture of five year old Jenna in midair. 491 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 4: She vaults into the pool, looking equal parts terrified and excited. 492 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 4: This sets the pattern for the rest of her life. 493 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 4: If Jenna wants to do something, she's gonna do it, 494 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 4: especially if it scares her and makes other people stare. 495 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: I used to sit on my bed and gaze out 496 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 3: the window at the stars and think someday I'm going 497 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 3: to be a star. 498 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 4: When Jenna World returns, Jenna finds her first true love dance. 499 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 4: Oh my God, Welcome back to Jena World. In nineteen 500 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,719 Speaker 4: seventy nine, Jenna starts taking dance classes at fern Adare 501 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,719 Speaker 4: Conservatory of the Arts in Las Vegas. Knowing that her 502 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 4: mom was a showgirl, Jenna wants to start dancing too. 503 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 4: Dance classes offer a euphoric escape from her grief. She 504 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 4: can dance for hours and hours without getting tired. Larry 505 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 4: decides to pursue his own dream too, becomes a cop, 506 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 4: which makes him feel like he's in charge in a 507 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 4: world that has robbed him of control. Going on the 508 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 4: beat also gives him a convenient reason not to be 509 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 4: around his kids, who look like his deceased wife. 510 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 7: I quit a lucrative career for the NBC station to 511 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,439 Speaker 7: become a policeman. I went to Night County, Nevada, which 512 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 7: is just north of Las Vegas, and got a job 513 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 7: as the graveyard deputy. 514 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 4: Larry's old employers in the Italian mafia don't look too 515 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 4: kindly on the cops and definitely don't approve of Larry 516 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 4: switching teams to the other side of the law. As 517 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 4: a graveyard shift cop, Larry busts local whorehouses, stepping into 518 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 4: ongoing wars between rival wardellos run by the mob. The 519 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 4: mobsters start sending him messages to stay far the fuck 520 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 4: away from their businesses. 521 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: One of the mob guys picked up Jenna after school 522 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: in a yellow school bus. 523 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 7: He let all the. 524 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: Other kids off and kept Jenna on the bus. He 525 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: drove just with her for miles and miles. The deputies 526 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: in the Sheriff's department chased him, and finally the bus 527 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: pulled over and got Jenna. 528 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 4: Gangsters in a nice car pull up on Tony at 529 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 4: school pickup, saying his dad said to get in. Tony 530 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 4: bolts off into the desert and hides there until dark. 531 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 4: The kids start going to school with a police escort. 532 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 4: They're paranoid at home too, where the phones are likely 533 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 4: being tapped. Their father is both their protector and the 534 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 4: one who put them in this danger. He tells Jenna 535 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 4: not to look out the windows, afraid she might get sniped, 536 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 4: but Dad's mostly not around to comfort them because he's 537 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 4: out patrolling. Instead, they get a revolving door of dubiously 538 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 4: qualified babysitters. Larry decides what he needs is a maternally 539 00:35:54,400 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 4: inclined new wife to cook, clean and raise these goddamn kids. Instead, 540 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 4: he gets Marjorie, an old coworker from the TV station 541 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 4: who's always had a thing for him. She's a former 542 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 4: model whose looks favor Marlena Dietrich. He takes her out 543 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 4: on a few dates and then proposes while he marries 544 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 4: her for the free child care. Marjorie is worse than 545 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 4: the bad babysitters. She backhands the kids for backtalk. She 546 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 4: doesn't feed them, but buys luxurious treats for herself, like 547 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 4: yo play yogurt. The kids subsists on a diet of 548 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 4: cheese sandwiches made by their dad and Jenna's attempts to 549 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 4: cook pasta in a microwave. 550 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 3: Marjorie was awful. It was like the evil stepmom. She 551 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,959 Speaker 3: was always angry with us, maybe because we were left 552 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 3: over from Dad's other life before her. 553 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 4: Marjorie throws a pot of hot coffee at the kids, 554 00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 4: but when confronted, plays dumb to their dad. Frustrate and malnourished, 555 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 4: the kids call up Grandma and tell her they're starving 556 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 4: at home. Grandma is not much better at taking care 557 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 4: of young kids herself. She's an alcoholic who drinks a 558 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 4: big glass of bourbon each night and passes out. She 559 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 4: doesn't cook either, but her kitchen is stocked with microwave 560 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 4: meals and pudding cups. The kids tell dad they're at 561 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 4: grandma's now. They eat her reserves of Hostess cherry pies 562 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 4: and wear her satin nightgowns to bed. Larry takes a 563 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 4: job offer in Florida. He wants to get himself and 564 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 4: his kids the fuck out of Vegas stat They load 565 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 4: up in his brown Pontiac Firebird and speed down to 566 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 4: Panama City. They enroll in a new school fenced off 567 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 4: with barbed wire. Larry gets a forty thousand dollars a 568 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 4: year job as a Florida cop, and Marjorie works as 569 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 4: a dispatcher. They're both hardly around because they work so much, 570 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 4: leaving the children with no supervision and lots of freedom 571 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 4: to get into lots of trouble. At their new apartment complex, 572 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 4: Tony and Jenna are lash key kids. An upstairs neighbor 573 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,760 Speaker 4: who calls himself Charlie Daniels and wears a cowboy hat 574 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 4: makes Jenna mayonnaise sandwiches. While this could be creepy, it 575 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 4: is thankfully an innocent kindness from a man who sees 576 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 4: that the kids downstairs are neglected. Jenna also has a 577 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 4: protector in Tony, who beats up kids at school that 578 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 4: bullier try to touch her until he gets expelled for 579 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 4: punching out a teacher. When Marjorie is at home, she 580 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 4: mainly screams and slams doors. She slaps Jenna and spanks 581 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 4: her for perceived disrespect. She also mocks Tony for having asthma. 582 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 4: Most of the time, she just ignores the kids to 583 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 4: lay out back and sunbathe naked. She's awful to them 584 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 4: when their father isn't around, which is most of the time. 585 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 4: Jenna craves real motherly love and care. The Masoli family's 586 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 4: increasing sense of paranoia has followed them all the way 587 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,439 Speaker 4: down to Florida. Tony keeps a gun his dad gave 588 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 4: him under his pillow and gives Jenna a butterfly knife. 589 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 4: Like any older sibling, Tony is both Jenna's bodyguard and 590 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 4: sometimes her bully. He puts her on a bike and 591 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 4: shoves it down a steep hill. They sneak into other 592 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 4: apartments in a game they call Ninja, running around wreaking 593 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 4: havoc with throwing stars and samurai swords. One time, Tony 594 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 4: flings a throwing star at Jenna and it gets stuck 595 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 4: in her head. Not very deeply, but it's in there. 596 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 4: Jenna covers for him and tells their dad she bumped 597 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 4: her head. The kids have a sibling pact of shared silence. 598 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 4: Tony gets into an altercation where a kid starts choking 599 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 4: him out. Jenna knows he has asthma and runs over 600 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 4: to save him. Like any good short kid, she jumps 601 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 4: on his attacker like a spider monkey and starts hammering 602 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 4: him in the spine with the handle end of her 603 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 4: butterfly knife. At home, Jenna cries all the time because 604 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 4: she's so miserable, but her stepmom never comes in to 605 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 4: comfort her. Tony and Jenna tell their father he has 606 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:34,760 Speaker 4: to choose a side, Marjorie or them. He picks the kids. 607 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 4: Larry lays down the lod dinner that night. Marjorie doesn't 608 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 4: take it well and stomps around destroying stuff. 609 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 3: For all his problems, it was reassuring to know that 610 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 3: he was, in his own strange way in our corner 611 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 3: if we ever really needed him. 612 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 4: His second marriage had been a ploy for instant stability, 613 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 4: but Marjorie only caused more chaos. Even though she hates Marjorie, 614 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 4: Jenna still feels guilty and wishes it all played out 615 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 4: differently somehow. When Jenna is ten and Tony is thirteen, 616 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 4: the kids are sent back to Nevada for another stin 617 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 4: at Grandma's house until Larry can move back. Then the 618 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 4: Mizsoli family moves again to Boulder City, Nevada. Larry is 619 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 4: chasing police work, but also making it so the kids 620 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 4: can never settle in or build friendships. They're forced to 621 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 4: give away the family dogs because the new building won't 622 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 4: allow pets in her mainly unstable life. Jenna's ballet and 623 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 4: dance classes provide one reliable source of happiness, so Jenna 624 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 4: puts all her energy there. She becomes fixated on obtaining 625 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 4: toe shoes so that she can learn to dance on point. 626 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 4: She scavenges a used pair that aren't ballerina pink but 627 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 4: jet black. The point shoes provide a template. When Jenna 628 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 4: wants something, she'll figure out a way to make it hers. 629 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 3: I went into this very gowky stage. I was very thin, 630 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 3: my head was really big, my teeth were really messed up. 631 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 3: I wore glasses, I had races. I remember in school 632 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 3: gym class looking at all the other girls who were 633 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 3: already shapely, and I looked like I was in third grade. 634 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 4: Jenna starts seventh grade in Boulder City with glasses, a 635 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 4: prince valiant haircut, and hand me downs. She wants to 636 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 4: fit in and be popular, but can't afford new clothes 637 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 4: or other trendy stuff. In a classic Dolly Parton's Coat 638 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 4: of Many Colors situation, she tries to convert her grandmother's 639 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 4: old clothes into something cooler looking with a sewing machine, 640 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 4: but it doesn't work. At school poo, She's shy and introverted. 641 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 4: Being very short and small doesn't help her feel or 642 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 4: look any less young. She finally makes friends in a 643 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 4: cheerleading class, but they don't like that she's way better 644 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,240 Speaker 4: at cheerleading than they are, so they start icing her out. 645 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 3: I had experience with dance and gymnastics, so I was 646 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 3: super good and they weren't. So they pretty much ganged 647 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 3: up on me and decided they weren't going to be 648 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 3: my friends anymore. They wouldn't talk to me and would 649 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 3: go out of their way to make me feel foolish. 650 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 3: I went through about three months of being completely alone 651 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 3: at school. I had to eat lunch by myself. A 652 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 3: lot of the time. I would skip lunch and leave 653 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:44,760 Speaker 3: school grounds to read a book. 654 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 4: She ends up quitting cheerleading to win her friends back. 655 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 4: Classic junior high situation, kill or be killed. Jenna and 656 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 4: Tony get another new stepmom, Vivian, one of their father's 657 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 4: student at the Carson City Police Academy. Vivian is better 658 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 4: than Marjorie. She actually feeds them too, making them sandwiches 659 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 4: for school lunches, but Jenna is so stressed out at 660 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 4: school she stops eating, hiding her uneaten lunches in her 661 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 4: locker until it smells so rank she gets in trouble. 662 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 4: Vivian even listens to Jenna and defends her to Larry 663 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 4: when Jenna wants to start shaving her legs to fit 664 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 4: in with the mature teenage girls all around her. But 665 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 4: Jenna's guard is still up and Tony is against new 666 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 4: stepmoms on principle. It's probably for the best, because Vivian 667 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 4: and Larry start getting into screaming fights, and stepmom number 668 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 4: two is out the door fast, putting Jenna back on 669 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 4: her quest for a maternal figure to mentor her into 670 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:55,800 Speaker 4: her burgeoning womanhood. As teen hood approaches, Jenna still looks 671 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 4: like a kid. She grows her hair out and starts 672 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 4: bleaching it. Flat chested, but starts wearing a bra. She 673 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 4: gets her first crush on a guy named Sesar. After 674 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,720 Speaker 4: four months of playground love, Seyesar comes over to her place. 675 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 4: Jenna has no idea how to behave around a guy 676 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,439 Speaker 4: who's interested in her. She clams up while they sit 677 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 4: on some steps, nervous her dad will come out, and 678 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 4: nervous he won't. Seesar slides his arm around her and 679 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 4: starts frenching her Jenna is disgusted by his tongue in 680 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 4: her mouth. Maybe she's not ready, or maybe she's just 681 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 4: not that into him. Her grandmother interrupts and Jenna pleads 682 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,240 Speaker 4: with her not to tell Larry. She never sees Cesar 683 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 4: again because her road dog family pick up and move 684 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 4: for dad's new girlfriend, who lives in Elko, Nevada. In Elko, 685 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 4: Jenna picks cheerleading back up and thrives. 686 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 3: That's how I started to get a little bit popular 687 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 3: for the first time in my life. Then I started 688 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 3: doing pad because one of the popular girls did them. 689 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 3: I was like, I can shred these people. 690 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,879 Speaker 4: Jenna's love of being on stage and competitive streak makes 691 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 4: her un natural for beauty pageants, but there's something else 692 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 4: motivating her, a huge chip on her shoulder about being 693 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 4: lower class and where that places her in the femininity sweepstakes. 694 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 4: Other pageant girls have momagers who support them emotionally and financially, 695 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,320 Speaker 4: and live out their own dreams through their daughters. Jenna's 696 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 4: dad has neither time nor the inclination to be a 697 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 4: pageant dad. But if Jenna wants something, she's going to 698 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 4: get it. So to raise money, she has a bake 699 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 4: sale and her brother and dad sell off some guns. 700 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,959 Speaker 4: She makes two K, which only covers the pageant entry fee. 701 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 4: Other girls have dance coaches, but Jenna does it all herself. 702 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,760 Speaker 4: She choreographs an original tap routine to the Village People's 703 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 4: hit song about maritime life in the Navy. 704 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 3: I was always trying to outdo myself. I felt like 705 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 3: I had to prove myself constantly because I felt alone, lonely, 706 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,319 Speaker 3: and I wanted everyone to love me. 707 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 4: Jenna loves winning. She'll enter any competition, especially if there's 708 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 4: prize money at stake. While she's still shy at heart, 709 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,280 Speaker 4: whenever she gets on stage, she transforms into a confident performer. 710 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 4: She has a chin length blonde, flip red lipstick, a 711 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 4: red satin young mismodeling sash, and a matching red sweatshirt. 712 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 4: She wins the Elko pageant's overall title and advances to 713 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,840 Speaker 4: a state pageant, where she competes against two hundred girls 714 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 4: and wins Best Interview and most Photogenic. She gets accepted 715 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 4: to nationals in Arkansas and has to raise more money 716 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,880 Speaker 4: for the entry fee. She washes cars and convinces a 717 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 4: local luxury car dealership to give her one hundred and 718 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:02,360 Speaker 4: fifty dollars. 719 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 3: I would strap my banner to myself, put my crown on, 720 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 3: and I would walk the streets of Las Vegas asking 721 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 3: for sponsorship. I would go into the car dealerships begging, 722 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 3: please just sponsor me. 723 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 4: Hustling people out of their money comes easily to her. 724 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 4: All her nervousness and insecurity dissipates when it's showtime. It's 725 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 4: like she's playing a character who's self assured. The more 726 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 4: often she switches over into performance mode, the more fearless 727 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 4: she becomes. She's finding a way to integrate the version 728 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 4: of herself who can involve dauntlessly into swimming pools as 729 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 4: a child with the girl who feels invisible to others 730 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 4: and can barely speak up at school. Jenna gets over 731 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,320 Speaker 4: her beauty pageant bug quickly as soon as she realizes 732 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 4: it's a scam, depart her from money that she could 733 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:58,360 Speaker 4: be rustling up for other purposes. Larry uproots his family 734 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,879 Speaker 4: yet again and moves them all back to Las Vegas. 735 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 4: Jenna decides she wants to be popular at school this 736 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 4: time around, while her social anxiety is still so bad 737 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 4: that she throws up in the bathroom every day. Something 738 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 4: else happens in nineteen eighty nine, when Jenna Masoli turns fifteen, all. 739 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 3: Of a sudden, boom, my boobs got huge. I mean, 740 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 3: I can't even tell you. I weighed ninety pounds and 741 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 3: I had like a C D cup, which is very 742 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 3: strange for a little girl. So I remember walking into 743 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 3: my first day of class my sophomore year, and I 744 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 3: wore a tight shirt, no bra, just because I wanted 745 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 3: to like throw it in everybody's face. And I remember 746 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 3: everyone looking at me going, Oh my god, what happened 747 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 3: to Jenna? Next Time? 748 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 4: On episode two of Jena World, learning from Las Vegas Showgirls, 749 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 4: Jenna tries to become a showgirl like her mother, gets 750 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 4: a job at a strip club and works her way 751 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,319 Speaker 4: up to top earner. This will get her drafted into 752 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 4: pornography and take her on a journey from Las Vegas 753 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 4: to Los Angeles. All this and more next time on 754 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 4: Jenna World. Jenna World is an iHeartRadio production executive produced 755 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:36,320 Speaker 4: by Anna Hosnier and Becca Ramos, supervising, produced by Bei Wang, 756 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 4: produced by Victor Wright, script editing by Jonathan Mills, engineered 757 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 4: by Graham Gibson, and edited by Rory Gagan. Today's episode 758 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 4: of Jenna World featured Laurence ser Video as Jenna Jamison, 759 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 4: Miles Gray as Kid Rock, Max Silvestri as Roco Safreddi 760 00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 4: Correina Longworth as Mina Hartley, Paul Sheer as Larry, Joe 761 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 4: Mandy as Frank Sinatra Junior, and Wyatt Faar as Tony Massly. 762 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Honey, h