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Speaker 1: This is the Players Lounge broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church,

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Speaker 1: Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison, and New He scruggs.

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Speaker 2: Players Lounge Thursday. Let's ripen.

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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, Danny McCrae, heckm Harrison, Barry Church, I am

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Speaker 3: New He scrugs.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys Eagles is going down. They are.

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Speaker 3: It's open locker room right now. Ceedee Lamb is talking

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Speaker 3: at passed. Dak Prescott coming down here to the podcast studio.

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Speaker 3: He will talk to Dave Brian Schottenheimer says he has

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Speaker 3: spoken to Mike mc arthy, spoke to him yesterday, also

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Speaker 3: spoke to him today.

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Speaker 2: So he says it's all full go all right.

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Speaker 3: Expects Mike to be on the sideline call and play,

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Speaker 3: so says everything's ready to go. Dak Prescott said yesterday

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Speaker 3: they had already basically put the game playing in.

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Speaker 2: So they're ready rock, They're ready to roll.

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Speaker 4: So that's the best dudes all day. I mean, because

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Speaker 4: you know this offensive is rolling. But a lot of

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Speaker 4: it has to do when you know, Big MIC's on

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Speaker 4: the sidelines, you know, dealing them out out there. So

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Speaker 4: with him back on the sidelines hopefully on Sunday, has

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Speaker 4: got to be huge news.

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Speaker 2: Are you super clean? I appreciate that. Testify again earlier,

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Speaker 2: you know something earlier. You know, I got that Toledo

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Speaker 2: Blue midnight.

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Speaker 5: Without ripping, ripping, you know, outside the university. But when

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Speaker 5: it comes to a pocket ripper here, good recognized. I

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Speaker 5: appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, shout out the big Mic. You look good,

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Speaker 2: you look good. So thank so.

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Speaker 3: Carthy is healing from the surgery just fine, and uh hekma.

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Speaker 3: They expect him to be okay, a little discomfort. You

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Speaker 3: spoke about having the surgery.

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Speaker 5: But he'd ready to go, man, I would expect for

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Speaker 5: Mike to be ready to go.

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Speaker 2: I mean, everybody know what time it is. Why would

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Speaker 2: you miss this?

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Speaker 5: If anything, the only thing I'm worried about is is

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Speaker 5: Mike gonna be upstairs? That he's gonna be downstairs. That's

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Speaker 5: the only things that I'm worried about. What and what

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Speaker 5: vantage point is he gonna be watching the game from

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Speaker 5: He will be.

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Speaker 3: On the sidelines, He'll be at work, tomorrow. He's going

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Speaker 3: to be here at the start tomorrow, is doing zoom

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Speaker 3: meetings talking to people, so he will be on the

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Speaker 3: sidelines tomorrow. It's just as you went through discomfort. That's

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Speaker 3: all it's really gonna be.

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Speaker 4: Is it risky because like when you did George, like

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Speaker 4: because somebody runs off the sideline, like.

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Speaker 5: We see this issue because it is stitches. Well, I

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Speaker 5: don't know how what he did.

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Speaker 2: Mine was I.

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Speaker 5: Did have stitches, so they did tell me to lay

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Speaker 5: it down for a few days, make sure I didn't

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Speaker 5: do any string you what's activity stuff like that? This

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Speaker 5: is the NFL, and they got a lot of different

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Speaker 5: stuff than the doctor that I went to. Is I

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Speaker 5: wasn't with the Cowboys at the time. I don't know

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Speaker 5: what type of special treatment Big Mike got. I see

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers out here. We're doing what he doing. So

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Speaker 5: Mike doinges Mike ready security in front of me on

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Speaker 5: the sidelight.

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Speaker 2: They all over here taking all the hits. Cable gonna

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Speaker 2: week and now we got Dohn versus Cable at halftime.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mayor Ford, I got my money. Okay, you push

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Speaker 2: anybody push Jaylen hurt for what heck wants him in

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Speaker 2: the game again the hotel. So that's the biggest.

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Speaker 3: The biggest news today is that the head coaches is

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Speaker 3: progressing just fine and expect him to be there when

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Speaker 3: they take on the Philadelphia Eagles Sunday night, and this

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Speaker 3: is a game they have to get see. Lamb spoke

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Speaker 3: about the guys on the team while you know, Mike,

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Speaker 3: it's been a way just to keep on doing what

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Speaker 3: you're doing. I did ask Brian Schottenheimer, who filled in

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Speaker 3: ESPN asked a question I was going to ask him,

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Speaker 2: It was about Terren Steele.

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Speaker 3: They still got worked over the man, and Shottenheimer said,

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Speaker 3: And he says, obviously there could be times when linemen

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Speaker 5: Listen, and this is what this happens all the time

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Speaker 5: get the proof the time and consistency. Right, that's what

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Speaker 5: Terrence Still gave us, right, and that's why he ended

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Speaker 5: or you were slipping all right, but it's the time

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Speaker 5: proof of consistency would tell us that nine times out

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Speaker 5: bad season when Nolan in them was here. So I

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Speaker 5: time and consistency says, hey, this is a pattern of

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Speaker 5: every time we get against a certain caliber of defensive lineman,

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Speaker 5: this same performance comes out. And I don't think that's

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Speaker 5: been the case so far. With Terran Steel. Nobody forgot. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: nobody forgot. It's just you don't care. You see a

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Speaker 2: It was getting beat like a drum, and.

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Speaker 5: You were sitting there going all right at this some point,

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Speaker 5: help him, yo, Chip, do something. But Sweats, I mean,

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Speaker 5: here is this guy is doing that to everybody. His

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Speaker 5: That slowed all of that down. Now guys are now

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Speaker 5: it takes all the mystery out of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all about adjustment.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's what we saw last game when that

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Speaker 4: like Terren Steel to go ahead and get beat out there.

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Speaker 4: But what I want to know from y'all is if

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Speaker 4: when you add another guy in for chipping, tight ends,

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Speaker 4: running backs, whatever the case may be, will that slow

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Speaker 4: at it, this team loves to get when they're in

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Speaker 4: the eleven personnel, they love to get everybody out, all three

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Speaker 4: Poler coming out here and there. Will that slow down

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Speaker 4: the production? Will that you know, force Dak to kind

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Speaker 4: Bergs holding the middle. These guys are hitting you know,

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Speaker 5: The answer, the answer to that question for me is

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Speaker 5: get your guy Brandon Cooks involved in the game, right,

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Speaker 5: because it's harder for you for the defense to stop

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Speaker 5: you from getting those explosive plays when you have more

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Speaker 5: play game, right, Ceedee Lamb at that in the last

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Speaker 5: you exposive plays out you know, in terms of vide receivers.

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Speaker 5: If you get a guy like Brandon Cooks involved, whoever

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Speaker 5: it is right, Like I know, the Brandon Cooks thing

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Speaker 5: you have an opportunity to bring a guy in and say, Okay,

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Speaker 5: We gotta put Fergie to work. We gotta put Ferguson

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Speaker 5: like I'm comparing Shannahan at his offensive play call into

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Speaker 5: I'm saying my tight end being able to at least

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Speaker 5: you know, to catch passes. So what do y'all think

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Speaker 6: Though?

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Speaker 5: As we're talking right, because I know we keep bringing

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Speaker 5: up like, man, you gotta be able to run the

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Speaker 5: Y and Z. Do you think that this is the

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Speaker 5: game where we play against the defense where they're.

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Speaker 2: Good at stopping to run.

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Speaker 5: All right, But we go in there with our offensive

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Speaker 5: this is the game when you get ten million dollars

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Speaker 5: and we did the franchise tam let go to Zeke.

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Speaker 5: This is the type of game where you get it

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Speaker 5: and you say, we expect you to have the ninety

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Speaker 4: I think when you go with this offense and you

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Speaker 5: I remember we had. We had a conversation about CD

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Speaker 4: want for all the band's pictures.

438
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 5: Santa come in, Santa not come rowdy be there they do.

439
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,440
Speaker 5: They do Santa at the start. You did the read

440
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,440
Speaker 5: for that too, Okay, they over there s that Santa

441
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 5: at the start.

442
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Speaker 2: We had a t T stadium.

443
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 3: You know what I told you, manbout five Santa's makes

444
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 3: a whole lot of money on the met Santas up there.

445
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 3: Their kids won't know playing louds brought to Tisch.

446
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 2: Working out, working out. They do it them all. They

447
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 2: do it the mall, come on, man, Tony Pollard.

448
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,439
Speaker 3: Looking here at just the numbers right now on NFL

449
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Speaker 3: dot com, Tony Pollard ranks ninth in rushing with seven

450
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,919
Speaker 3: nd than thirty seven yards. He's got an average of

451
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 3: four point one, and he has scored five touchdowns. Your

452
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 3: leader in rushing is Christian McCaffrey one thousand and thirty

453
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 3: two yards, followed by Derreck Henry of Tennessee, Brihi Moster's third,

454
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift the Philadelphia's fourth, Isaiah Pacheco of the Chiefs

455
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 3: is fifth, Josh Jacobs to the Raiders is sixth, Travis

456
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 3: at M is tied for six, B John Robinson is

457
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 3: tied its eighth, and then Tony Pollard is nine right there.

458
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 3: So then after that is James Cook, Zach Box, Zach Moss,

459
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 3: David Montgomery, Saquon Barkley, Joe Mixon at fourteen, and Kyron

460
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 3: Williams over at fifteen.

461
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 2: That's your your top fifteen rushers in the nflright now.

462
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 5: Feels so bad for man, he feels bad grace on

463
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 5: my fantasy take, But.

464
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Speaker 2: How would you take it? Why would you take that improved?

465
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Speaker 5: I think they'd be running read option a lot you know,

466
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 5: take go ahead, a good year lesson.

467
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 2: I got that tape. Everybody look at tall, Okay, what

468
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 2: they doing now?

469
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,919
Speaker 3: And then of course then there's this thing called expectations

470
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 3: on your boy, and I saw him, I was like

471
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 3: passing in not buying that.

472
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Speaker 5: Well for Tony Pollard, Uh no, No, for Tony Poller

473
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 5: coming into the season, I mean I was expecting Tony

474
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Speaker 5: Pollard to have at least eleven eleven hundred yards rushing.

475
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 5: Then I expected him to be a lot more involved

476
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 5: in the past game, to give him an additional three

477
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 5: three fifty, all right. So so where he's at now,

478
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 5: it's not where I expected to be, especially with how

479
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 5: heavy of a run team we were at the beginning

480
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 5: of the season. But I do think there's an opportunity

481
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 5: for that to be turned around, right because I think

482
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 5: when you go into the season that's saying he's coming

483
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 5: off injury. Want to make sure he's healthy and the

484
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 5: most important part of the season. So hopefully as you

485
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 5: move further into these this this tough stretch that we're

486
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 5: about to play in, Tony Poller becomes more very focal point,

487
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 5: not oversed, but he becomes a part of the game

488
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 5: to where you know, okay, listen, and we have to

489
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 5: go on the road to play a playoff game. Our

490
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 5: running game is going to be serviceable at least to

491
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 5: keep us from having to throw the ball fifty times

492
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 5: if we in bad weather or something like that. So hopefully,

493
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 5: you know, Tony Poup does end up with about twelve

494
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 5: twelve hundred yards rush purpose twelve Yeah.

495
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: Can you get another five? Have to go great?

496
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, eleven hundred. You know, I just want to

497
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 5: I just want to see a little bit more. I

498
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 5: want to see it because we expected it, because that's

499
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 5: what we saw from Tony, Like this is an explosive guy.

500
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 5: Zeke holding him back a little bit is what people

501
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 5: were saying, while we give it a little and you know,

502
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 5: we just haven't seen it. So hopefully he's fresh going

503
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 5: into the end of the season and we start to

504
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 5: see that that that different type of speed that we

505
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 5: saw last season.

506
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 3: So he's got nine hundred totally at like nine eighty

507
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 3: five combined right now. But I think you have to

508
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 3: go back into the cost ten million dollars and this

509
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 3: is what you get. This is not ten million dollars,

510
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 3: and that's that's let's just be honest, Okay, for ten

511
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 3: million dollars, you're expecting a better production and you're looking

512
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 3: for a guy to have another Pro Bowl season. That

513
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 3: didn't happen, And in some ways there's a gift in the.

514
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: Curse for the Cowboys.

515
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 3: This clearly opens the door for you to bring it back.

516
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 3: You can bring Tony Plar back, and you can bring

517
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 3: it back at a price that it's much lower because

518
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 3: nobody's going to pay Tony part ten million dollars in

519
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 3: the NFL. No, nobody's going to do that. But clearly

520
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 3: he has a role here. They like him here, He's

521
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 3: been here for a while. So in some ways, this

522
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 3: is the gift in the curse. Hey, the gift the

523
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 3: player could still be available to you.

524
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 2: You're going to have a double digit win season.

525
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 3: He's comfortable here, so there could be the ability to

526
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 3: get a long term deal done with Tony Poler at

527
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 3: your price.

528
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: Oh you go high let on killn Look, well he

529
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 2: gonna do.

530
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 5: But you do know he's gonna be somewhere because that's

531
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 5: how it works. Look my thing with him right now

532
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 5: at this point the season space actually with the emergence

533
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 5: of CD Lamb and Brandon Cooks, in this offense and

534
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 5: the lack of production from Michael Gallup, you needed their

535
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 5: third piece, and Ferguson has kind of given you that.

536
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 5: He's been in the bright spot. But also, man, the

537
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 5: way that we use TP you guys have talked about it,

538
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 5: at give him some of those outside runs. Quit trying

539
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 5: to get in between tacks and get his head buss.

540
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 5: Let this guy do what he does. Right, It's we're

541
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 5: at the point where it's like, all right, the scheme

542
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 5: that we're using him in is very important. He's a

543
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 5: better receiver then a lot of people give him credit for.

544
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 5: So look if the numbers as a rusher doesn't add

545
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 5: up at the end of the year, so let's say

546
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 5: he does as a thousand, but over these next five

547
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 5: and let's say in the playoffs he's given you that

548
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 5: forty yards a game. On that fifty sixty yards a game. Dude,

549
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 5: that is valuable to this offense. Uh, you said it

550
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 5: is valuable game If he could do that, If that's

551
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 5: his production in the receiving, Oh, I'm talking about that. Okay, No, no, no, no, no, no,

552
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 5: I'm talking about no, no, no, no, I'm saying as receiver

553
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 5: he could give you that that's valuable.

554
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 3: Looking forward because at some point, you know, you got

555
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 3: to look for they got scout tear on the road,

556
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 3: and you're getting closer and closer to that scouting season.

557
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 3: Would you be more comfortable using a draft pick on

558
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 3: a running back and I'm not talking at first, Yeah,

559
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 3: and did that last year and allowing Tony to uh to.

560
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 4: Walk, especially if you're gonna use them like how they've

561
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 4: been been using them where it's basically a running back

562
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: by committee deal with him, en Rico And to me,

563
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 4: if you put that price tag on them, because we

564
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 4: all understand when you put a price tag on the player,

565
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 4: expectations come with that. To me, he could be three

566
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 4: players in one. He could be Tony, he could be

567
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 4: what's my guy?

568
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: Number nine? Was his name? Turping, and he could be.

569
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 4: A dude for all in one, Like why aren't they

570
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 4: get like that's what That's what's confusing to me. He

571
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 4: could be getting those Jets sweeps, he should be getting

572
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 4: those screens, those outside pitch plays, all of that, because

573
00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 4: he can be that type of player.

574
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: We've seen it in the past, So why divvy it

575
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: up that way?

576
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 4: I don't to me that that's just perplexing, Like why

577
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 4: divv it up between all those guys when you have

578
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 4: all that and one and Tony poll and you're paying them,

579
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 4: but you want to use them, you know as a bulltozer.

580
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 2: He's confusing to me. Ten million dollars, it's not what

581
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: he's going to get. I look at Eckler.

582
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 3: It was about six six and a half and he's

583
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 3: not had the season you thought he would. In fact,

584
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: they're talking about playing joshuac Kelly someone down there with

585
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: the charger.

586
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: So prices are falling for running bag killing missed up.

587
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's when.

588
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 4: Man, the man that fumbled multiple times out there, he's

589
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 4: out there consta Hey, it's all right, Kelly, he just ain't.

590
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna talk about I'm gonna talk about that the

591
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 4: same way that I talked about Brandon Cooks. But Brandon

592
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 4: Cooks has been a guy who.

593
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 5: Has been a thousand years receiver consistently all of a sudden,

594
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, ain't got it.

595
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 2: Kenn Allen Balling, you know the ball everybody can't eat.

596
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: He's going six point.

597
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm telling you, hey, I'll be I'm calling somebody here.

598
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 5: If I'm Zeke, I'm calling killer and if I'm if

599
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 5: I'm I'm calling killer, say see what you did, I'm just.

600
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: Saying you got CD here was balling coach. He wanted ce.

601
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 2: He wasn't playing like this when Keller was it, he

602
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: was balling. He went over that. I'm saying, I'm just

603
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 2: saying that you a.

604
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 5: Cold in here for he Let me tell you something

605
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 5: I watched eling for many years.

606
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: Be a big time running back. Then it was a touchdown.

607
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 5: Magine, they don't been talking about this might not be

608
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 5: starting no more.

609
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 2: Use somebody. Somebody's taking his carriage.

610
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: Yes, they're going They're going to find a roll to

611
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 3: get Joshua Kelly more cars.

612
00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 5: Slow down. I'm playing on team and damn I'm gonna

613
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 5: running back. And they tell me that they just kill him.

614
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 5: I'm telling that's that's what I'm doing.

615
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: I'm calling the movie to guys, moving company whatever. There

616
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: is a man.

617
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 5: I'm not signing there with with with this guy because

618
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 5: I paid off TP got paid off off the Keller

619
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 5: don't call him you want to and he got shipped

620
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 5: out of here. Last play as a Dallas cowboy allowed

621
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 5: in the production of Years Man. He says, he just

622
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,959
Speaker 5: told you Eler. Now you're gonna blame the production.

623
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: Who's the opposite?

624
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 5: Who's offensive coordinator was when he production start going down?

625
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 5: I don't know who's the killer? Yeah, hold on, Kelling,

626
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 5: so you know Polo balled out with him?

627
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: He did? Okay, Will McClay still need to come in.

628
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: Church turned here talking food. Don't hire Church and your

629
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: personnel department when you asked.

630
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 3: Kelly, who lives the thing is?

631
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

632
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 5: We need Tony Poula to be to me, we need

633
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 5: him to be a little bit productive and we need

634
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 5: to use him better, uh, in the ring game, in

635
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 5: the past game, in order for us to be what

636
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 5: we want to be, especially if we have to go

637
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 5: on the road and we're not playing at home throughout

638
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 5: the playoffs.

639
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: Excellent point. All right, let's let's let's take let's get

640
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: a little came at the right time the right time.

641
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: Come ahead, tell us what you catching burying foolish?

642
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: Okay, catching burying straight foolish?

643
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: Oh ah yeah, yeah, yeah, this is what's a fun

644
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: show to do.

645
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 3: Totos getting their money's worth here from Danny McCrae, Heck

646
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Speaker 2: So Stefan Gilmour does he travel this week? Yes, sir, No, gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: big question, that's a big time question. If it's up

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Speaker 2: to me, ain't no time to play games?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 4: You know from what I saw last week, man, from

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Speaker 4: what I saw last week from Gilmour and the matchup

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Speaker 4: you had with DK Metcalf in the second half, I

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Speaker 4: think he did a great job on on Metcalf. AJ

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Speaker 4: Brown and Metcalf very similar receiver. I'm talking about size, speed, agility,

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Speaker 4: running all that. They're basically the same carbon copy, the

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Speaker 4: same person. And I just don't think that's a good

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Speaker 4: matchup for twenty six dron Blad. I don't see that

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Speaker 4: Reed or something like that. He wasn't a good matchup

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Speaker 4: for me. Like I'll tell you right now, that guy

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Speaker 4: was gonna, he was gonna, he was gonna get off.

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Speaker 4: It was versus me. So to me, I just don't see.

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Speaker 2: I just don't like I was, Hey, that was real

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Speaker 2: and we're playing, we're gonna play, We're gonna play something.

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Speaker 2: He's one of those ones.

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Speaker 5: Where you you're supposed to go win me like, switch

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Speaker 5: ain't doing it.

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Speaker 4: I just knew it, you know what I mean. That's

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Speaker 4: how it was. But to me, I don't see that

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Speaker 4: that's a good matchup for him. So it's not time

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Speaker 4: to you know, play games or you know, be on

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Speaker 4: somebody's pride or whatever. Go with the best matchup, and

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Speaker 4: to me, that that's Gilmore. To me, that's Gilmore is

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Speaker 4: a savvy vet out there going against a Jay Brown.

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Speaker 4: And then you put you know, Bland over there on

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Speaker 4: the Slim Reaper, which is still a tough one, tough

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Speaker 4: match up. It's a tough matchup. But to me, I

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Speaker 4: liver died with that.

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Speaker 2: One for sure.

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Speaker 5: Starting So starting the game off, I'm starting, Yeah, man,

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Speaker 5: I don't I don't know. I can't start the game

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Speaker 5: off that way, you know, because as I said last week,

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Speaker 5: I'm talking.

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Speaker 2: It up to you know, I can see and I

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Speaker 2: can do it.

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Speaker 7: I can do it.

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Speaker 2: For the Cowboy.

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Speaker 5: They played a lot of games in a few days, okay,

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Speaker 5: Durron player, second year guys, trying to get it figured

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Speaker 5: out three two straight weeks. So they went to go

747
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Speaker 5: look for number twenty six. So we'll know early, right,

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Speaker 5: we know very early what they're trying to do on

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Speaker 5: offensively as far as how it is targeting Darron Bland.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna give it a series or two, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying see you.

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Speaker 5: Know he got got the right right stuff right, because

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Speaker 5: I know they went back to the lab with all

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Speaker 5: of them right.

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Speaker 2: They woulding to.

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Speaker 5: Gilly talk to them a little bit and you could

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Speaker 5: be a little better right here. So hopefully that translates

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Speaker 5: to the field. So I'm start them off right side

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Speaker 5: for darn blaind left side for Gilly, and then see

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Speaker 5: how it goes. Because what you like, just like you said,

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Speaker 5: that's a tough match up anyway, you're gonna have to

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Speaker 5: cover somebody, and no matter where you lined up at,

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Speaker 5: they throwing it to number what number twenty six cents,

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Speaker 5: So it don't matter. They're gonna try to find a

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Speaker 5: way to make sure when they can that you can't

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Speaker 5: match up, and they're gonna try to figure out the

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Speaker 5: way to exploit that anyway. So give them a shot

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Speaker 5: to get out there and get his confidence back, and

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Speaker 5: if it don't work, moving back over that new hopium

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Speaker 2: Hey, that new batch is real good. Like I'm anna

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Speaker 2: had some of that left over standing on what I

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Speaker 2: said last time.

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Speaker 5: Man, Look, I completely like I believe what you're saying

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Speaker 5: is accurate, that that al heres. They went back they

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Speaker 5: got in the lab, but I'm also on the other

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Speaker 5: side with you when it's like, man, take out a

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Speaker 5: pride and ego out of here, because you saw last week.

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Speaker 5: You know maybe dan Quinn was on that that Bland

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Speaker 5: train as well. Like the man over there, he's gonna

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Speaker 5: get it with another what she did once they made

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Speaker 5: the switch, and I'm like, man, it's the rising tide

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Speaker 5: raises all boats for me. With Stephan Gilmore, y'all said

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Speaker 5: that when they first signed him, that that veteran presidence

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Speaker 5: is what he was gonna do for this locker room.

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Speaker 5: And you see it his ability to go over and

787
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Speaker 5: take away that primary receiver. I think Aj Brown is

788
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Speaker 5: somebody that you gotta stop. You got to shut him down.

789
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Speaker 5: And if Davante Smith is on the other side, you

790
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Speaker 5: can't allow Davonte Smith. You can't allow here's the thing.

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Speaker 5: You can't allow Aj Brown to get a hundred and

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Speaker 5: Davonte Smith to get a hundred as well. You gotta

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's got to be feast of famine on

794
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Speaker 5: one of those, all right. So I'm saying put the

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Speaker 5: run Bland on the slim reeper, allow him because you

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Speaker 5: know Jaylor Hurt's gonna try and oh he's gonna try

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Speaker 5: and and those fifty to fifty passes that he does throw,

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Speaker 5: he's gonna get in one of those, and he's gonna

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Speaker 5: get him another interception. So I think, defensively, if I

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Speaker 5: can start off the game saying steph On, get over there,

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Speaker 5: on AJ Brown, I would rely on that more as

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Speaker 5: a defense than just saying all right, I don't care

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Speaker 5: which way you guys are listen. I wish I could

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Speaker 5: just go back now in my brain and look at

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Speaker 5: what dan Quinn did when he was in Seattle, because

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Speaker 5: I just know that there were games where Richard Sherman

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Speaker 5: may have been getting toasted, or Brown or whoever else

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Speaker 5: they had it on the opposite side was getting toasted.

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Speaker 2: And what they did the following game, I don't think

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Speaker 2: they didn't say on the same side.

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Speaker 5: But I think he's seen enough to say, all right,

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Speaker 5: it's either this is really bad and this ain't gonna change,

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Speaker 5: or from my experience, all right, we can get this fix.

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Speaker 2: So if he goes out there on that side again.

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Speaker 5: Then I'm assuming dan Quinn was like, all right, hey,

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Speaker 5: well we seen what we saw what we saw, and

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Speaker 5: I believe that we can get this fix. It was

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Speaker 5: just some technique type stuff or if you switched, you know,

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Speaker 5: you know what he thought did right, because they didn't

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Speaker 5: switch in Seattle, So if they come out switched this time,

821
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Speaker 5: that just lets you know how he feels about the

822
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Speaker 5: matchup and then where d run bland maybe and where

823
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Speaker 5: he needs to get better at.

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Speaker 3: These were the numbers for Philadelphia receiving in the last game.

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Speaker 3: Total seventeen passes called as a team. Aj Brown seven

826
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Speaker 3: catches sixty six yards, had to touchdown as long as

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Speaker 3: nine point He averaged nine point four yards to catch.

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Speaker 3: Devonte Smith only had three targets, but he had three

829
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Speaker 3: catches for fifty.

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Speaker 2: One yards a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: His average seventeen in that game. Four targets for Dallas

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Speaker 3: got her three catches fifty yards.

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Speaker 2: He average sixteen points us. Yes, I think last yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, last game that twenty twenty three Philly win.

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Speaker 3: So that was kind of the And then DeAndre Swift

836
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Speaker 3: got in the pass game a little bit, two catches

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Speaker 3: for thirty one yards, so and he averaged fifteen point

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Speaker 3: five there.

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Speaker 2: So those are their their top top pass catchers in

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Speaker 2: that in that game.

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Speaker 3: So look, it's gonna be fun to watch man he's

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Speaker 3: got her back this week.

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Speaker 4: Yes, playing you're gonna have that bionical joint all heeded.

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Speaker 5: Playing with Beau, we kind of looked out the last game,

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Speaker 5: you know, when him get injured in that game, because

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Speaker 5: that took away, that took away a weapon. Come back

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Speaker 5: is also a little a little added, a little added,

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Speaker 5: a little worry for us because you know, I don't

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Speaker 5: I don't know how well we cover the tight ends

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Speaker 5: as a team, but we'll.

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Speaker 2: See, all right.

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Speaker 3: Tonight is Patriots Pittsburgh the TV.

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Speaker 3: Church what you got?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going with Pittsburgh as well. Hope Z does

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Speaker 2: his thing, but you know, I gotta go Pittsburgh. Give

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Speaker 2: me a.

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Speaker 5: Seventeen ten a picket not playing either. There you guys

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Speaker 5: Whiskey out there, mister whisky in the building. Man, I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna go with the Steelers at home. Sixteen I'm sixteen

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Speaker 5: fourteen wow.

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Speaker 2: Two touchdowns okay they scored last.

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Speaker 5: Week sixteen fourteen even Yeah, Okay, I agree because I'm

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Speaker 5: going to nineteen seventeen Steelers. I see some defensive turnovers

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Speaker 5: and takeaways about maybe a special teams touch like I

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Speaker 5: see that it be a Truisky's playing. Who's the type

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Speaker 5: of the quarterback for the still I mean for the Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, when you go out there, you got

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Speaker 5: these these two types of defenses who are known for

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Speaker 5: being able to full quarterback. I can see a lot

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Speaker 5: of interceptions happening tonight. I can see just just just

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00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 5: turnover after turnover, after I see uh, Trubisky gets snatched

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00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 5: out the game and then put baking in and Zach

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00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 5: gets there. I can see all that stuff happening tonight.

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Speaker 5: I can see it.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be TJ gonna get his numbers. He's gonna

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Speaker 2: definitely his number something. I mean it was last week

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00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: was good though. Yeah. But other than that, Man, has

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Speaker 2: there been many in the past two years? Has there been?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 2: Man, it's just a bad look of the drama, man,

884
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: is what it is.

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Speaker 3: These other networks they asked for the big games, so

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00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: they cater Sunday night football, they cater to NBC. NBC

887
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 3: gives them a little like, hey, we want this, and

888
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 3: then Fox everbody says this is what we want. So

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00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 3: you Thursday night, Yeah you sitting up here. Oh you

890
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: at the back end, that's what you're getting. I mean

891
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 3: lista make you sit up here. And old Jags Titans

892
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 3: games we got every year.

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Speaker 2: It was nice. We never got an NBC.

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean you're looking at me, you're looking

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Speaker 3: at that. You know the falcons on that mean that's

896
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 3: in Thursday night games. Man, they are not. But till

897
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 3: they try. What they try to do is now like

898
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: put everybody on a Thursday game. You got to get

899
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Speaker 3: a taste like the Cowboys had to play. But still

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Speaker 3: it is infiltrated with these matchups that you don't want

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Speaker 3: you to see them.

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Speaker 2: And they're not flexing them either.

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Speaker 5: No, man, you bring up something big man with God

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00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 5: or being back, And that is an interesting question because

905
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 5: you think about how the Philadelphia's offense has struggled without

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00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 5: having a bona fide tight end, and that may have

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00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 5: been some of their problems that they've been having over

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Speaker 5: the last couple of weeks with just timing and having

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Speaker 5: that option. This is one of those games and I

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00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 5: don't know which one of our safeties we get a

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00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 5: responsibility to, whether it be Number one the six twenty eight,

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Speaker 5: whoever it is, I just know that Donovan Wilson in

913
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Speaker 5: some way has to put his imprint on this game.

914
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Speaker 5: Whether he's spying, whether we go spy with a linebacker,

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Speaker 5: whatever we have to do. One of our safeties has

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Speaker 5: to come up big, and they have to come up big,

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Speaker 5: either spying or on the tight end. I about saying, yeah,

918
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Speaker 5: it's gonna be tough to spy if the tight end

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Speaker 5: slim reaper and man, that's it just makes it a

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Speaker 5: little bit more Yeah, difficult for sure that having a

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Speaker 5: tight because Ferguson for us is a huge piece of

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Speaker 5: the offense and got it for them was a huge.

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Speaker 2: Piece of the offense.

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Speaker 5: And to have a guy like that missing as equivalent

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Speaker 5: to Mark Andrews missing or Baltimore, yet having him come

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Speaker 5: back at a game like this, I'm telling the stakes

927
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Speaker 5: are just hot. This is one of those games where

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Speaker 5: you just you just hope that you're gonna get one

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Speaker 5: of these at the beginning of the season because it's

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Speaker 5: gonna be a clash of two Titans.

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Speaker 2: Too. Who you picking I'm gonna pick tomorrow? Is that alright?

932
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Speaker 5: Cause I know you he just got a little bit

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Speaker 5: of my more nerve. I mentioned got her, he was

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Speaker 5: a hold on. Let's come back to that got her. Hey,

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Speaker 5: you said got her, got her?

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Speaker 2: Got her?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it may not matter because Derek car said Jayleen

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Speaker 3: Hurst can't read defense.

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Speaker 2: Are on time? Can't read defenses? Gentlemen, listen, Tomorrow's sure tomorrow, Danny, Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's live. Long pause. What's your name? That's better the yes, sir,

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Speaker 2: I knew he scrub you. Dont forget your own name?

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Speaker 2: You don't.

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Speaker 3: I got the media mash coming up top of the

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Speaker 3: hour right here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 2: Ready, we'll talk to you tomorrow.

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