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Speaker 1: We had a small get together at our apartment, but

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Speaker 1: storytime subreddit, so submit your stories there well. Two days later,

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Speaker 1: my parents' gift arrived. My parents are on the wealthy

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Speaker 1: my parents sent a text wondering if she had opened

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Speaker 1: I was also really excited to see her open this gift.

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Speaker 1: Girlfriend came to me and asked if I could tell

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Speaker 1: how long is too long to not open a gift?

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Speaker 1: Like a couple minutes? Aren't you curious to what is

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Speaker 2: Not I don't understand myself.

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Speaker 3: I could see how someone would be uncomfortable, maybe if

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Speaker 3: But after and he's like, hey, this is something I

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Speaker 1: Also, honestly, red flag if you're getting If you feel

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Speaker 2: I'll stand with you on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that is too judgmental, but then again, that

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Speaker 1: My parents weren't there, and all it would require is

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Speaker 1: To me, it was the exact same as our friends

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Speaker 1: uncomfortable it makes me. Symphasis, do you like if you

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Speaker 1: any of them? But like Jeff, you just don't understand.

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Speaker 3: I think also the main thing here in all seriousness,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there's something going.

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Speaker 1: She did say thank you when she received the package

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Speaker 2: Then I think it's like just lie and just say

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Speaker 1: Yeah, actually no, I don't think you should lie. But

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Speaker 1: about a week after the gift arrived, my parents texted

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Speaker 2: Anthony? I mean, like, where does that come from? Like

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Speaker 2: deep security? Is that? Yeah? Like you're only making it

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Speaker 3: So it feels like, yeah, there's something big that like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think therapy therapy. I told them she still

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw a very quick absolute hail Mary conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 3: Oh please do she is sleeping with his bother, and

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Speaker 2: I said it, We'll see if it happens.

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Speaker 1: It's a hail Mary, a thick, juicy update, so there

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Speaker 1: I really thought I was doing her a favor and

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Speaker 1: so am I the A hole? We have some relevant

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Speaker 1: comments with some responses from OPU, and we have an update.

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Speaker 1: But what do we think is op the A hole?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm just gonna happen right here.

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Speaker 4: She thinks her feeling uncomfortable is more important than him

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's I why why is she uncomfortable? Does

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Speaker 1: That we do know that there's one thing we know

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Speaker 1: so Commoner says, not the a hole. If my girlfriend

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Speaker 1: Seems like a red flag kind of human OPI responds, dude,

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Speaker 1: way too much. She's not ungrateful, and she's not a brat.

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Speaker 1: And then Commander says, I put money down that your

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Speaker 3: Look, maybe I think it is possible it's not a

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Speaker 3: I want to understand to know how to protect you

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Speaker 2: In the future.

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Speaker 1: But I think the idea that there like isn't anything

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Speaker 4: She doesn't want to feel pressure to react a certain

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Speaker 3: It seems like it was me possibly a little sprinkling

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, but at least they got to a place

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Speaker 2: That would be good. True. The commitment, the commitment, that's

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Speaker 1: Like opening a bag, dude, imagine we're both opening a

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Speaker 1: She talked about Lana del Rey so much that she

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Speaker 1: WHOA, that is a pretty deep analysis of it, and

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Speaker 1: which means it's part of it is true.

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00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 3: I never thought that ron Adel Bay fan groups could

444
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 3: ever have gotten this deep, but here we are.

445
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 2: This is okay story tom ladies and gentlemen.

446
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 3: So now he's never said that explicitly that he doesn't

447
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 3: see value in it, but that's how he makes me feel.

448
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 3: An example, I had been clearing the dishes and listening

449
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 3: to her music when he came into the kitchen and

450
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 3: started singing along in the most high pitched, off key

451
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 3: falsetto voice I have ever heard before busting up and

452
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 3: turning it off and saying something like, I don't see

453
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 3: why you listen to this crap.

454
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: I think he might really not like the interest. That's

455
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: a lot a lot. That would be like John. That

456
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 1: would be like me listening to Kendrick and just being like, like,

457
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: my name is Kendrick. Yeah, how do you feel angry?

458
00:22:53,400 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: I would say, who's Kendrick? Get them just kidding? I

459
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 2: will spare you today.

460
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 3: So now this was one of the times that I

461
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 3: told him he had hurt my feelings. He apologized, explained

462
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 3: that he had only meant it as a lighthearted joke

463
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 3: and that he didn't care what kind of music I

464
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 3: listened to. I don't really get mad over this. It

465
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 3: more just hurts my feelings. I have thoughts on this

466
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 3: that are coming up soon. They too contact out of

467
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 3: the way. We were out at dinner with his friends

468
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 3: and their girlfriends, and I had left to go to

469
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 3: the bathroom and come back to him showing them a

470
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 3: video on his phone, and the audio was familiar right away.

471
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 3: It was a performance from over a decade ago that

472
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 3: was panned pretty universally. That was panned pretty universally banned. Yeah,

473
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 3: I'm guessing that's like kind of hated universally.

474
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

475
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 3: They were all laughing, and he made a lot of

476
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 3: jokes until he noticed that I had gone quiet. I

477
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 3: actually think I know what they're talking about. There was

478
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 3: an SNL performance. I think of Lena Delray like years ago,

479
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 3: where her singing was like completely off key or something.

480
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 3: Oh really, I think so, I think I'm remembering that.

481
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 3: I'm a big Bondle Deel Bay fan over here. So

482
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 3: till he noticed I had gone quiet and said to

483
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 3: lighten up. I tried to smile, but he wouldn't drop

484
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 3: it and said, I don't like your music either, but

485
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,959
Speaker 3: I would never make fun of you for it.

486
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: You know that.

487
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 3: It was a very quiet meal and ride home and

488
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 3: he is now barely talking to me. Two of the

489
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 3: girlfriends there said I made everything awkward, and then I

490
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 3: was being unfair because we always made jokes with each other.

491
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 3: Am I the a hole? There's relevant comments. There is

492
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 3: a fat, juicy update two months later. Two months later,

493
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 3: but we have to stop here real quick. First off,

494
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 3: is OPI the a hole.

495
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: For saying that, Yes, it seems like she reached a

496
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: little bit of a breaking point. Maybe yeah, but generally

497
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it is. And I understand she reached

498
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: a breaking point, but generally the best way to communicate

499
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: is not in like a public setting out of like

500
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 1: a case of anger. I think if you feel transgressed,

501
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:12,959
Speaker 1: the ideal situation is to talk about it privately. Yeah,

502
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: there's a there's this quote that I heard recently from

503
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: I think it was from the show that we went

504
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 1: to the red carpet That wasn't a red carpet, but

505
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: he was like, he was like, praise in public discipline

506
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: in private, And I kind I kind of mess with that.

507
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 2: Kind of a bar, kind of a bar kind of

508
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: a bar.

509
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that everyone's a little bit the a

510
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 3: hole here because of him constantly ragging her and then

511
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 3: her kind of like snapping back that hard, which again

512
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 3: I think she reached a breaking point. But it's like, okay,

513
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 3: better down in private. I have a question for you two.

514
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 3: I feel like, and there's got to be some sort

515
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 3: of golden rule or something with this. I feel like

516
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 3: in every relationship, if it's you know, you get deep enough,

517
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: you have years years in the game of a relationship,

518
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: each side will have some thing where they don't fully understand,

519
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 3: like they're like, Okay, maybe I don't think it's that

520
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 3: big of a deal, but because I love you and

521
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 3: I respect you, and I want you to feel valued

522
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: and have your feelings validated, I am absolutely one thousand

523
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 3: percent on board with you know in this case, you know,

524
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 3: not making fun of Lona del Rey. You know, maybe

525
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 3: maybe I don't fully get it, and maybe Opie doesn't

526
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 3: fully get it, but like he should still respect his

527
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: girlfriend's feelings.

528
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: And also like she is such a big fan. Yeah,

529
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: like it's it's kind of identity. Yeah, exactly. I was

530
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: about to say that it's like a core part of

531
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: her identity, and I think because it's a core part

532
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: of her identity, it hurts a lot more when he

533
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: makes fun of it. And I don't know if he

534
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: is realizing how much that artist means to her, And

535
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: I think that that might be a blind spot on

536
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: his part.

537
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he's behaving necessarily. Well, I don't

538
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 4: think you should make fun of anything that your partner

539
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 4: likes in a group setting. Yeah, like at the expense

540
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 4: of your partner. It's not like, huh, this it's so

541
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 4: funny that she has this obsession with bonileel Day, Like,

542
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 4: isn't that so funny?

543
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

544
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 4: But it's not that it's like she's like she's dumb

545
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 4: for thinking that way.

546
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of, because imagine if any of.

547
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: Our partners just like crapping on our biggest musical influences,

548
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: that would.

549
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 2: That would rub me the wrong.

550
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 1: Way, Yeah, a lot, especially because I feel like music

551
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: often is so much more than just like, oh I

552
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: like this song. It's like this artist helped me get

553
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: through a time of my life, or this artist inspired

554
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: me to in some ways become who I am today.

555
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: I think there's like a lot of people that that

556
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: feel like that I'm sure you feel like that about

557
00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: some of your artists, and I feel like I just

558
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: don't think the boyfriend understands that, and definitely a little

559
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 1: bit the A hole. I don't think OP is the

560
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: A hole, but I do think maybe she handled it

561
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 1: in a way that wasn't the most elegant solution, So

562
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: like tinge of a hole, but like I think justified

563
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: a whole.

564
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 4: I justified in that, like he's apparently done this before,

565
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,239
Speaker 4: and maybe in her mind the only way to get

566
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 4: him to stop is to sort of expose it at

567
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 4: the source when it's happening, to sort of make him

568
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: feel that sort of oh, you have to drop it

569
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 4: because they mentioned that, Like, yeah, I tell him, and

570
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 4: then two months later he does it again. Yeah, And

571
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 4: so if that just keeps happening, then we have seen

572
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 4: that before.

573
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's some relevant comments that might have some

574
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: relevant context. Virtual Equivalent twenty seven says, not the a hole.

575
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: Isn't it interesting how someone says or does something hurtful

576
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: and once the other person reacts badly, they start going

577
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 3: on about how it was just a joke and you're

578
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 3: a bore for not getting it.

579
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: Jokes are supposed to be funny.

580
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: You told him several Yeah, so if you're gonna if

581
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 3: you're gonna torture someone, and at least make it witty.

582
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: You told him several times you are not comfortable with

583
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: him poking at your favorite artist, which is understandable. He

584
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: promises he won't do it anymore, and then he breaks

585
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: his promise time and time again. He knows how it

586
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: bothers you, and he just doesn't care. And the fact

587
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 3: that you have fan accounts and tattoos inspired by your

588
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 3: favorite artist doesn't justify him disrespecting your wishes and Boeing

589
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: three sixty seven eighty says, I read these and do

590
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 3: not understand why the OP is with their partner. It's

591
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: so obviously grossly disrespectful. I wonder how bad her self

592
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: esteem must be to put up with this for even

593
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 3: a second. Going straight for the jugular, there's a bystander.

594
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: This guy's an ass. Do yourself a favor and move

595
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: on super quick before we get into this juicy update.

596
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 3: Two months later h two months later, number one OP,

597
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 3: he was.

598
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: Judge, not the Ahle.

599
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: Number two. Do we think there's gonna be a breakup?

600
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 3: Anthony Sam?

601
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: I feel like if she recognizes her self worth then potentially,

602
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: but it also it's like, you know, we don't understand

603
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: the whole context of relationship. Maybe everything is great outside

604
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: of this one thing, but if this is the embodiment,

605
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: it's of their relationship. And like she says, they have

606
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: a culture of in the relationship of making fun of

607
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: each other, it might just be that it's a little

608
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: toxic too.

609
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: And so if it's a little toxic and.

610
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: They're just kind of not uh, there's a culture of

611
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: basically putting each other down for the things that they're

612
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: genuinely interested in. That is not a relationship that you

613
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: should be in unless there's serious work done.

614
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: Anthony.

615
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 4: You know, I want to know if these people are

616
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: actually funny, you know, because they're saying they're joking around,

617
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 4: but like a good joke almost never like hurts any

618
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 4: specific person's like feelings. It's like, like that's not a

619
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 4: joke that it's just like you being insecure, you know,

620
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 4: like a joke can lift people up but also sort

621
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 4: of nag somebody because if it's.

622
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: Done, the presumption is if it's done the right way,

623
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 3: everyone's laughing.

624
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: Together, yeah, everybody.

625
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 4: If everybody's not laughing and then it's not a good

626
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 4: joke unless you're trying to be a controversial on a

627
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 4: like stand up comedy stage, you know, a better com

628
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 4: I just don't think the jokeiness justifies the hurt feelings.

629
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: I think I agree, But two months later, a lot

630
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: of people private messaged me and helped me work through

631
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 3: everything regarding mine now x oh boom, good done, good

632
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: neat though, including being a shoulder to cry, and when

633
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: I realized it wasn't going to work out, and I

634
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 3: guess I felt I owed them an update if they

635
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: were interested. Not to mention the great advice I received

636
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: in the comments on the original post, I am deeply

637
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: thankful for so many of them. A few in particular

638
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: who disagreed with my take also helped me to see

639
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: where he may have been coming from and helped me

640
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 3: to figure out how I was going to talk to

641
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 3: him about everything. So I did apologize for bringing it

642
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: up publicly. I know that many people disagreed with me

643
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 3: that I should, but personally, I've always been the type

644
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: to want to handle any grievances I may have with

645
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: a loved one privately, literally exactly what Sam was saying earlier,

646
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: rather than publicly, and I didn't like the fact that

647
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: I allowed myself to break that rule around his friends.

648
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: Less.

649
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: He thanked me for that, but didn't really want to

650
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: dig into why he felt the need to make a

651
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 3: joke out of it. I asked if it was because

652
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 3: I had been bringing up her slash for music more

653
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: than usual due to her being more active in the

654
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: media currently, but he denied this. Still, I continue to press,

655
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: explaining that we needed to move past this one way

656
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: or another, because if he continued to mock Slash ridicule

657
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: my interests, it was going to make me slowly resent him,

658
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: something I really didn't want but couldn't deny what happen

659
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: if he continued to act like a bully.

660
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 2: That's some direct communication.

661
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're getting to the roof a boundairy boundairees well,

662
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: let's squeeze the teat of truth here from these boundaries. Eventually,

663
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 3: after a lot of pressure, the teat of truth was squeezztraw.

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00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: He explained that.

665
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: This had all started because he had complained to his

666
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: friends privately about me last year during the lead up

667
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 3: to her new album release.

668
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: And they didn't like.

669
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: The fact that I was a fan of this artist

670
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 3: and made some political assumptions about her based on her

671
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: lyrical content from over ten years ago.

672
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: This is the plot is thickening.

673
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan, but I'm gonna analyze all of

674
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: her songs in the last ten years and see what

675
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: her political affiliations might be.

676
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: They're putting together the Lana del Rey exposed video, but

677
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: just for the friend group. They are not even for clicks.

678
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: I feel like they're they're kind of fans in a way.

679
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: They're they're they're haters, but they're they're they're a fan

680
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 3: of hating.

681
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: Jealousy is just love and hate at the same time. Whoah,

682
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 2: don't quote me on that. Well too late, guys. I'm

683
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: it's not like a summer but it's a bar okay, John,

684
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: It's not is that it is.

685
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 3: It is being taken from currently the most alleged surface

686
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 3: level a rapper currently in the game, but Drake. So

687
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 3: they were talking about all of this based on her

688
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 3: lyrical content from over ten years ago, teasing the boyfriend

689
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: for having a wanna be trad wife girlfriend, which I

690
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: have also heard about Wanda what she has made some

691
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: I think like even outside of the music, some like

692
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: more like conservative, like traditional woman values or something something

693
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 3: along those lines like like what like uh like in

694
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: the veins of like, oh, the woman should stay at

695
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: home and like do that not like her songs, not

696
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: literally that, but kind of people thought she had that kind.

697
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: Of vibe about her. But the people thought, I don't

698
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 2: even know what it was about. But I have heard

699
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: that sentiment about.

700
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 4: Her women should stay at home while I make a

701
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 4: million dollars during the country, yes, and performing as an

702
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 4: independent woman.

703
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 2: And people didn't like that.

704
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: That doesn't make sense to kind of have mean no,

705
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 4: but I don't know if that's actually how she feels.

706
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I literally don't even know what it

707
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 3: was they said that caused the sentiment. I only have

708
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: heard that sentiment.

709
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: It could be that she's like wandering.

710
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: It could be like, you know how like country singers

711
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: were like, bom, I'm in the back of mount truck

712
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: and like and like trying to pander to uh, like

713
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: like a certain demographic that they are not a part of.

714
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 2: While they're driving a lamb. Yeah, while they're driving a lamba.

715
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: It could be that could be just like totally pandering

716
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: to Gardner's specific audience.

717
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 3: That's true because I would say her general audience is

718
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 3: not that, or at least it's a it's missignment with

719
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 3: I digress. They were teasing my boyfriend for having a

720
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: want to be tried wife, girlfriend, and other things that

721
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 3: he was resentful of, including but not limited to, asking

722
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 3: if I had daddy issues or if I had a

723
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 3: history of sleeping with older men. I am heavily sanitizing

724
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 3: the language used because some of it what was said

725
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 3: was disgusting. Honestly, I'm like, cut out the friends. That

726
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 3: is a crazy assumption to make.

727
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: They're friends, right? Or another his friends right? Yes? Yeah? Yeah?

728
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: Are they her friends too? Not sure?

729
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 3: So basically it boiled down to him trying to shame

730
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 3: me into not liking the artist anymore so he wouldn't

731
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 3: have to deal with his friends anymore, rather than just

732
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: shutting them down. Now I feel like I finally arrived

733
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: at the truth, which is whack whack. But I couldn't

734
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 3: be in a relationship like that. I just couldn't. The

735
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 3: fact that every time I had felt awful about myself

736
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 3: and my interest for the past year and just thought

737
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: I was being oversensitive to a joke, it was actually

738
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: the point to make me feel bad. It destroyed any

739
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: hope I had for the relationship.

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00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: I won't lie. I've been pretty heartbroken.

741
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 3: The breakup was shortly after the first post, and I've

742
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 3: just gotten around to updating. So yeah, no big blowout

743
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 3: with dramatics, no secret affair or anything. Just a man

744
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 3: trying to make me feel small because he didn't know

745
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 3: how to tell his friends the piss off. Boring but

746
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 3: depressing a f.

747
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Op, that sucks, but also good good for

748
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: you because you need to leave this good for you.

749
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think that was the move.

750
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 3: That's true, that the truth was exposed, and good on

751
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: Op for continuing to drive down communication lane.

752
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, which she arrived at her destiny.

753
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: Like again, probably in writing this out she realized how

754
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: bad it was, like, I I love that that that's

755
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: kind of like what it takes to recognize you're in

756
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: a bad situation.

757
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And then that the people's comments spurred her

758
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 3: to have the conversation and that's what finally

759
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: Truth