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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where you should never pick against

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: I'm here in the Chris Westleying podcast studio with my

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Speaker 1: friend Patrick Claybrond, joined by my other friend Nick Shook.

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Speaker 1: They're actually my only two friends in life, because I'm

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Speaker 1: only friends with whoever is on NFL Daily with me

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Speaker 1: at that very moment a moment, and that's these two guys.

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Speaker 2: Tonight. What a weekend this has been.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't seen you in a while, Shook,

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Speaker 1: How you doing fantastic?

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Speaker 3: What a week of football we had? I mean, Yesterday

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Speaker 3: was fantastic, Today was great. Even Sunday nights was entertaining enough.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know, the Patriots and the Chargers didn't really

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Speaker 1: live up to what this wild Card weekend has been.

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Speaker 1: It's funny, you know, right when they yank away the

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Speaker 1: Super from Super Wildcard Weekend, we get an insane collection

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Speaker 1: of games. I thought it'd be tough the top Saturday,

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Speaker 1: but now that we're five games in, there has been

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Speaker 1: twelve fourth quarter lead changes in this wild Card weekend.

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Speaker 2: Patrick all in the first four games.

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Speaker 1: That is double the amount of any fourth quarter lead

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Speaker 1: changes in any entire playoffs in any season in NFL history.

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Speaker 1: That's how many times like we have been in jeopardy

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Speaker 1: of who is going to win this game and who's

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Speaker 1: going to advance. But we know now nine teams are

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Speaker 1: only left with a Monday Night or togace.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and the teams that lost, despite them being in

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Speaker 4: close circumstances with small margins, they're all bad. They have

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Speaker 4: to get rid of them. Their seasons were all worthless.

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Speaker 4: And that's the idea now that that people are going

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Speaker 4: to have and it's all vapid. Not here though, like

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Speaker 4: not on this program. We can be smarter than that.

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Speaker 4: Except for the Greg Roman and the Chargers offense. Actually

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Speaker 4: that was all bad. So yes, the Divisional Round is set.

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Speaker 1: We don't know the exact times of the Divisional round games,

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Speaker 1: but we do know the days. The forty nine Ers,

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Speaker 1: despite Kyle Shanahan pleading to play on Sunday because it

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Speaker 1: would be unfair to make them go on a short

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Speaker 1: week for the third time in four weeks, they put

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Speaker 1: them on Saturday. And we will get that forty nine

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Speaker 1: Ers Seahawks rematch on Saturday, as well as the Broncos Bills.

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Speaker 1: We will have the Patriots on Sunday going up against

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Speaker 1: the winner of Houston and Pittsburgh. And how about the

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Speaker 1: Rams and the Bears. Not a common matchup in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: It's been over thirty years since the Rams and the

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Speaker 1: divisional round weekend. Really excited for that. But first, I'm

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Speaker 1: all these great games this weekend, I will plant my

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Speaker 1: flag that the best was the Bills and the Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Jacksonville.

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Speaker 5: Empty set, Lawrence back to pass looking on an inbreaker, broke.

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Speaker 3: Buffalo's gonna win the wildcard game here at jackson Bill.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Josh Allen played great, three touchdowns, just about

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Speaker 1: a perfect game. But this might have been the trenevious

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Speaker 1: four lead changes, touchdowns throughout the fourth quarter. But it

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Speaker 1: is the Bills and Josh Allen and a resourceful, banged

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Speaker 1: up defense that gets to win twenty seven to twenty four.

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Speaker 1: They advance and they are heading to Denver. What stuck

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Speaker 1: out to you most Patrick in this game?

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Speaker 4: I it was the missed opportunities for when Jacksonville Jaguars,

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Speaker 4: of course the play that we'll have a chance to

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Speaker 4: Inburt Ooh and letting Brandon Cooks run free for thirty

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Speaker 1: You're tough on, Greg Newsom, I am okay, he did

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Speaker 1: and I just thought Josh Allen really had this game calibrated.

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Speaker 1: I say you're tough on Newsome because some of the

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Speaker 1: Nick and getting this thing done.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad that he exercised the whole Josh Allen

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Speaker 3: can't win a playoff game on the road, demon, that's

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Speaker 7: But they're just gonna have another one that doesn't make

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Speaker 3: I know it won the Super Bowl, well, Lamar still

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Speaker 3: I was surprised that he was able to do it,

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Speaker 3: He's got this foot issue. He was dealing with other

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Speaker 3: And that's all because of Allen's ability to distribute fine

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Speaker 3: could not be a more fitting moment then the Bills,

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Speaker 3: the Toush push, turning to the Toush push to score

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Speaker 1: Yes, So they line up on a key fourth down

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Speaker 1: I think the defensive tackles have sometimes been that weakness.

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Speaker 1: in your running game, you have all your timeouts. You're

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Speaker 4: to score it too much, Tiff, yeah, you can also

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Speaker 4: not score at all. And I think that that is

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Speaker 7: Six now, it's crazy. Yeah, we're playing numbers. This all

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Speaker 2: It's not about the numbers. It's about just trying to

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Speaker 4: And I think scoring the touchdown worked out for them.

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Speaker 4: somebody's gonna have, well, my model says no, my model's

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Speaker 1: Nick because I think it was really instructive. When Josh

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Speaker 1: And watching this game, I think he really felt that,

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Speaker 3: It also makes up for a running game that wasn't

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Speaker 3: absolutely right. It shows up in the numbers. The way

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and also you know, limiting the number of opportunities

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Speaker 1: Here, what are you saying taking shots? Well, it took

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, we lose together.

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Speaker 4: As to the Jacksonville Jaguars, because not just a herculean

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Speaker 7: But where Trevor Lawrence just didn't necessarily make those plays.

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Speaker 4: This game you want to see, like I understand during

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Speaker 4: At some point Trey, Trey White and Brandon Cooks got

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Speaker 1: So the Jaguars got nine passes defense and that includes

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Speaker 1: hands on Trevor Lawrence's passes nine times. The Jaguars didn't

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Speaker 1: And if you look at their outside cornerbacks Jerry and

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Speaker 2: That was a big difference.

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Speaker 1: And you know you mentioned Trevor Lawrence, like, yeah, he

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Speaker 1: but it's Shaq Thompson making an interception. It's Tredavious White

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Speaker 1: Let's actually listen to Sean McDermott, not talking about the defense,

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Speaker 8: Well, it trickles down from him in terms of the

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Speaker 1: The thing is, like I thought, Heinz Allen and Trayvon

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Speaker 1: If we're talking you know, if his defense shows up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and emphatic touchdown drives that made me think, Okay,

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Speaker 3: And like you said, you know you're right about the front,

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Speaker 3: it really bums you bet about the Jacksonville defense. I

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Speaker 6: I'm like God, touchdown taking the US off Parker Washington,

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Speaker 1: What a freaking season by Parker Washington catches seven passes

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Speaker 4: Well, in some of those some of those big rushing

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Speaker 1: game and I thought, these are two teams, and I

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Speaker 1: know this is true for most of the teams that

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Speaker 1: played this week, but I really believe with you, these

438
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Speaker 1: are two teams that can win the Super Bowl, and

439
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Speaker 1: they're playing like super Bowl level play on both sides.

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Speaker 1: Both coaches are getting it done. I think goes a

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Speaker 1: great game plan for Sean McDermott to limit as much

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Speaker 1: as he could on his defense. He is still a

443
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Speaker 1: very good defensive coach. Considering the personnel they have. This

444
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Speaker 1: was a good plan and it was a complimentary game

445
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Speaker 1: by his offense, and and the Jaguars were up for

446
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Speaker 1: the challenge too. Liam Cohen, it's his first time in

447
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. He was not afraid. I mean he's calling

448
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Speaker 1: you know, direct snaps to Travis Etn On the final drive,

449
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Speaker 1: he called a you know, a run to Parker Washington

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Speaker 1: in the red zone on the last drive. It finishes

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Speaker 1: with a touch down. If it didn't work, everyone would

452
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Speaker 1: have been like, oh, you got too cute. But really

453
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Speaker 1: the one criticism for Cohen after the game was, you know,

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Speaker 1: do you regret going for it on fourth down early

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Speaker 1: in the game.

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Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say, regret.

457
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Speaker 3: Not taking the points of field going on?

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Speaker 2: Not at all, not at all, not even a close decision.

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Speaker 8: It was all go for it on all the metrics,

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Speaker 8: and you know.

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Speaker 2: With where you're at down there that low, you gotta

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Speaker 2: go for it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know you're sick of the models that

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Speaker 1: you believe don't even do anything.

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Speaker 2: They just say go your thoughts, Patrick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just a big folder with a green construction

467
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Speaker 4: paper that says, go on it. I think Liam Cohen,

468
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Speaker 4: who's calling the plays, who's looking at the play that

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Speaker 4: he wants to call, and he's the person who makes

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Speaker 4: the decision. Yeah, Like, I'm good with that decision that

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Speaker 4: it's really a patch of turf. Oh, that ultimately determines

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Speaker 4: whether Trevor Lawrence ultimately gets that first down, as well

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Speaker 4: as the rule about the quarterback going head first being

474
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Speaker 4: giving yourself up, so he doesn't even need to be

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Speaker 4: down by contact in that situation.

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Speaker 7: No, I don't mind that.

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Speaker 10: Go.

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Speaker 4: I think the Jacks. You know, they lost a turnover battle,

479
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Speaker 4: but they had a higher success rate. They almost doubled

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Speaker 4: them up rushing the ball. They outgained them. The success

481
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Speaker 4: rate was fifty one point nine. It was a good

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Speaker 4: offense performance by the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's the nature of

483
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Speaker 4: the game and the circumstances produced a loss.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there were there were seven trips to the red

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Speaker 1: zone and that was the only one that didn't result

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Speaker 1: in a touchdown. Every time these two teams got down there,

487
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Speaker 1: they capitalized.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I mean.

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Speaker 1: There was great defense on other sides of the field

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Speaker 1: and they were hitting. I mean, this was I love

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Speaker 1: this game. To me, This was one of the best

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Speaker 1: games of the entire season. Like it just high level

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Speaker 1: stuff from both sides and they were hitting. I know

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Speaker 1: that makes Nick Schuk happy watching this game.

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Speaker 3: Oh of course, I love them. When football players get

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Speaker 3: to the playoffs and just turn up to eleven, it's

497
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Speaker 3: like it's almost like in the NBA when they're like, oh,

498
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Speaker 3: suddenly we play defense, except in football you have to

499
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Speaker 3: play defensive, play hard. It's just it seems like it's

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Speaker 3: a higher intensity in the playoffs. But I also agree

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Speaker 3: with you. Patrick has nothing to do with the models.

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Speaker 3: For me, you go for it down there because it's

503
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Speaker 3: an extra it's a bonus possession that you earned because

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Speaker 3: of a turnover on a kick return. So that's already

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Speaker 3: in your pocket, right, Like, oh, well, we weren't supposed

506
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Speaker 3: to be here anyway, so why not try to maximize it.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing is, when you get to the playoffs,

508
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Speaker 3: why would you ever go away from your identity? You

509
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Speaker 3: do what got you there. It was a good call

510
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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence career high rushing touchdowns this year. Good call,

511
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Speaker 3: slipped up a little bit short of the line to gain.

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Speaker 3: If he converts that, maybe they score. Maybe we're talking

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Speaker 3: about something different. We're not rehashing this at all. I'm

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Speaker 3: totally fine with it. Stick with what got you there,

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Speaker 3: and if you lose the game because of it, so be.

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Speaker 1: It and again that was Shaq Thompson just kind of

517
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Speaker 1: touching Lawrence there. I don't know if that made the

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Speaker 1: difference of it, but it is crazy, like we'll get

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Speaker 1: into the Bills all week, certainly, like if this is

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Speaker 1: the team that gets them to the super Bowl, it

521
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Speaker 1: would be remarkable because you know, they got I don't know, who's.

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Speaker 2: That guy Handcock back there. I like, yeah, some players.

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Speaker 3: Show some respect in Ohio State's Jordan Hancock.

524
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Speaker 1: Jordan Hancock, they're just sticking it together. They got Brandon Cooks,

525
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Speaker 1: who who he heard Sean McDermott loving up Jacoby Myers

526
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Speaker 1: during the week and who turned out to be the

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Speaker 1: free agent pickup, or rather the end season pickup that

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Speaker 1: made the difference in this game.

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Speaker 2: It was our guy, justified.

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Speaker 1: It was our guy, Brandon cook Before we move on

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Speaker 1: from this game, just a couple other little notes the

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Speaker 1: Bills in the last two years this means something to me.

533
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Speaker 1: I think have ended the Jaguars eight game winning streak,

534
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs nine game winning streak a year ago, the

535
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Speaker 1: Lions ten game winning streak a year ago, and the

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Speaker 1: Patriots eleven game winning streak this season.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: What that means, but just they're streak stoppers and that

539
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Speaker 1: that it means something. I feel for Jaguars fans, I

540
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Speaker 1: do think for these teams that haven't been to the

541
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, you know, it's it's interesting in the AFC.

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Speaker 2: Maybe this is just the fan side of me.

543
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Speaker 1: There's something about how wide open this AFC is that

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Speaker 1: I really feel five or six teams have such a

545
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Speaker 1: good chance to actually make it that normally you just

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Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, this is a building season. It was

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Speaker 1: a great moment for the Jaguars, certainly, but I do

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Speaker 1: think it was a missed opportunity too, because if the

549
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Speaker 1: ball just bounces a little different today, or they make

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Speaker 1: one or two more plays, there's absolutely a world where

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Speaker 1: we're seeing Trevor Lawrence out there on Super Bowl Opening

552
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Speaker 1: Night taking questions or winning the Super Bowl. I really

553
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Speaker 1: think they were that good of a team this year,

554
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Speaker 1: which is why, you know, I just think it's a painful,

555
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Speaker 1: even you know, loss, even if they played pretty well

556
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Speaker 1: today's show.

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Speaker 3: It's also like Dan Campbell said when they lost the

558
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Speaker 3: NFC Championship game to the forty nine ers a few

559
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Speaker 3: years ago, it's hard to get back here. And I

560
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Speaker 3: know it's only wild Card weekend, and I do think

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Speaker 3: that they will be back and this is the first

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Speaker 3: step in Liam Cohen's first year. But it's really hard

563
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Speaker 3: to get back there, even to wildcard weekend, because you

564
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Speaker 3: gotta stay healthy. You got to hit your stride at

565
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Speaker 3: the right time, and they were hitting their stride at

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Speaker 3: the right time. This was the team in the AFC

567
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Speaker 3: that I felt the most confident in because of the

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Speaker 3: way that they looked over the last month and half.

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Speaker 3: So it's disheartening as a just a ball enjoyer, a

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Speaker 3: football enjoyer to see the Jaguars end like this. But

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Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of moral victories, but Jaguar fans

572
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Speaker 3: can feel so much better about where their team is

573
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Speaker 3: now than where they were even just a year ago.

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Speaker 3: The future remains bright.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know history in the way that we look

576
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Speaker 4: at the playoffs and the postseason, you know they will

577
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Speaker 4: be told that the Miles jack not being down team,

578
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Speaker 4: the Saxonville team because they made it farther, was better

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Speaker 4: than this team. I think this was the better Jacksonville

580
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Speaker 4: Jaguars team. Is the circumstances led to a loss, and yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna get the player you traded up for in

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Speaker 4: the top five back. I believe he will primarily play

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Speaker 4: corner next year because I believe he's the best cornerback

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Speaker 4: on the team and that's what they needed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great call. They could have used him today.

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Speaker 2: I was surprised.

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Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated by Patrick's emotions because he's an intellectual guy.

588
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Speaker 1: He doesn't carry his his emotions on his sleeves.

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Speaker 2: What and you said that this one hurt you more

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Speaker 2: than you expected.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because a good team and they've been feel good

592
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Speaker 4: and I know that the way that we talk about

593
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Speaker 4: football teams and all this stuff, and that's why I

594
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Speaker 4: kind of lamented at the top of the show, everybody

595
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Speaker 4: lost is bad. Yeah, you don't deserve to have any

596
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Speaker 4: good memories from the team. This was a good football

597
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 4: team and it's it's rough for the folks and Jacksonville.

598
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Speaker 4: You know, they steal home games from them every single year.

599
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Speaker 4: That they deserve this team to be better.

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Speaker 1: They're not even going to play home games in a

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Speaker 1: couple of years. They go to Orlando for a year,

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Speaker 1: don't you Don't you have affection though, for our great

603
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Speaker 1: producer Eric Roberts. Yeah, and all the Bills fans out there. Congrats, Eric,

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Speaker 1: how was your experience? Thank you for watching this.

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Speaker 2: It was great.

606
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Speaker 11: Had the family over, It got a nice time slot

607
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Speaker 11: for me. So living room full of Roberts, enjoyed the

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Speaker 11: day and came into work happy and onto the next one.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was Josh Allen in the locker room too.

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Speaker 1: After He's like, this one means, Like all it means

611
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Speaker 1: is we got the right to play another one that

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Speaker 1: was fired up, and I was so they don't.

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Speaker 4: They don't even enjoy it, folks, and Jacksonville feel pretty

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Speaker 4: great if they got to win.

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Speaker 9: I know.

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Speaker 1: And I was looking at that locker room and I

617
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Speaker 1: was like, yeah, they do need a new stadium, because

618
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Speaker 1: it was like you couldn't even have like half the

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Speaker 1: team in one area of the locker room, like everyone's

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Speaker 1: just in like a hallway.

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Speaker 3: Basically, be surprised. You'd be surprised the state of some

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Speaker 3: of the visiting locks.

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Speaker 2: Sums in thee some of the old ones.

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Speaker 1: Sure, So you know, Patrick, I liked the sentiment there,

625
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: and that generosity of spirit was actually shared by a

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Speaker 1: member of the media in Jacksonville today.

627
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Speaker 2: Let's let's wrap this game.

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Speaker 1: Just listening uh to a comment slash question to Liam Cohen, how.

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Speaker 12: You doing today, Lynn Jones, Jacksonville Free Press News. I

630
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Speaker 12: just want to tell you congratulations on your success, young man.

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Speaker 12: You hold your head up, all right. You guys have

632
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Speaker 12: had a most magnificent season. He did a great job

633
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Speaker 12: out there today. Would you just hold your head up?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

635
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Speaker 12: And ladies and gentlemen, duvall you don't one all right

636
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Speaker 12: when we got another season, okay, take care of much

637
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 12: continued success to you and the entire team.

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Speaker 1: I love how Liam Cohen meets her in the eyes

639
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Speaker 1: and he's emotional and he appreciates that in the moment,

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Speaker 1: and I saw that right away and I was like,

641
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen that before. That that was that was different,

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Speaker 1: and it's like a nice way to go out on

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Speaker 1: the game. And then, because it's twenty twenty six, it became,

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Speaker 1: surprisingly enough to me, like one of the biggest stories

645
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: on social media throughout the day, which is a reminder like,

646
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Speaker 1: don't stay on social media because it's like every super strident,

647
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Speaker 1: serious journalist who said that was an abomination to everything

648
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Speaker 1: that the press room should be about.

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Speaker 2: It's like, let's calm down here.

650
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Speaker 1: But also, you know, you know, maybe the other side

651
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Speaker 1: of things saying like this was such a beautiful just

652
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Speaker 1: just let the moments happen. We don't have to comment

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Speaker 1: on everything.

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Speaker 7: I will say on Blue Sky.

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Speaker 4: I did not see any of that criticism that may

656
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Speaker 4: have been on the site that's currently distributing nonconsensual revenge.

657
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Speaker 7: You know, I hear you. We made skew towards people who.

658
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 4: Might not necessarily like that particular attitude from the front

659
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Speaker 4: that personally asked the question.

660
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Speaker 1: That might not argue in good faith. Look, when he

661
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: has a fair point, you got to recognize it. Let's

662
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: let's take a break from this game, one of the

663
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Speaker 1: games of the year. Let's come back with one of

664
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Speaker 1: the games that wasn't one of the games of the year.

665
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: It was a Patriots victory. You will hear Bob Sochy

666
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: on the other side of this.

667
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 8: Break.

668
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: To fourth and nine for LA two minutes to go.

669
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: Herbert drops back. He's president, Milton Williams.

670
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Speaker 9: You go to sack back of the forty five long

671
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 9: up the sixth sack by New England and the guy

672
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 9: who'll get to the quarterback was one of the stars

673
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 9: of last year's Super Bowl. Men for Philadelphia, A big

674
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 9: ticket free agent and poyus Milton Williams delivered for the

675
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 9: Pats this season.

676
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: A fitting final offensive play for this Los Angeles Chargers

677
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: that was one of eleven quarterback hits on du Justin

678
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: Herber as you heard they from Sochi and Scott Zolec

679
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: on WBZ, one of six sacks by the Patriots. New

680
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: England wins a game sixteen three that was reminiscent of

681
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: their last playoff victory as a franchise in the Super

682
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: Bowl thirteen three over the Rams. By the time Mike

683
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: Rabel got bloodied up at the end of the game

684
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: because Milton Williams headbutted him on the sidelines, Like I

685
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: was kind of thinking, Mike Rabel loves this more than anything.

686
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: Shook.

687
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: It was a game that a season really where Drake

688
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: May and the offense has carried this team and I

689
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: think in terms of building up where they're going to

690
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: go just this season and maybe in the future, I

691
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: think he'd loved seeing his defense come out and just

692
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: have a dominating performance like that.

693
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: Let the record reflect that. On this day, January eleventh,

694
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, Mike Rabel was officially canonized as the

695
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 3: Patron Saint of football guys for that moment right there,

696
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 3: getting bloodied by his own guy and just dive completely

697
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: and then wearing the bloody lip all the way to

698
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: midfield to shake Jim Harbaugh's hand at the end of

699
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: a triumphant and dominant defensive performance. For all the love

700
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: that we give the New England Patriots and Drake May

701
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 3: the favorite win MVP, which he did make a couple

702
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 3: of plays more than a couple of players that were

703
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: deserving of that recognition. Tonight today, this game in primetime

704
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: was all about Rabel's defense and the Patriots doing what

705
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: they used to do with Bill Belichick back when I

706
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: was in middle school, dominating a game on the defensive

707
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 3: side of the battle school.

708
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Speaker 4: And Mike Rabel contains multitudes because while he's the same, yes,

709
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 4: I'm bleeding my own blood and the postgame quote was,

710
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 4: we talked about being willing to spill blood out there,

711
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 4: and Milton took that to heart and so like that.

712
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 7: That's Mike Brabel, consummate football guy.

713
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 4: But he's also cerebral clock management Mike Vrabel. Where the

714
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 4: Chargers wanted to, you know, get the ball up and

715
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 4: down the field, but they kept wanting to substitute, so

716
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 4: he's sitting in full line change clock so much as

717
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 4: he possibly.

718
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: He was literally telling the guys to slow down as

719
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: they were running off the field, and.

720
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 4: So like, get you a coach who can do both,

721
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 4: and Mike Rabel clearly like the game plan was spectacular.

722
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 4: On the other side, the Greg Roman situation has reached

723
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 4: the point, the same point that we've been at for years,

724
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 4: and perhaps Jim Harball will recognize that Greg.

725
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: I think it could be the end of watching Greg

726
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: Roman in major games. It just feels like he's been

727
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: such a massive part of our lives as football fans

728
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: for a while because those Harbaugh teams with Kaepernick and

729
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: Alex Smith were so exciting, and then the Lamar Jackson

730
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: teams obviously now Herbert. He's just been associated with these

731
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: teams that are right in the center of the NFL.

732
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: And when I've gotten a Chargers games like that, Eagles

733
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: one stands out In this game too, there's nobody open,

734
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: there's no formational diversity when you know the man coverage

735
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: is come and shook, and the blitz was insane. The

736
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: Patriots are not a heavy blitz team in general, but

737
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 1: they were not getting home with four early in this game,

738
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: and they sent the house. They had eight blitzes of

739
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: six or more in this game. They had you know,

740
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: they had another zero blitz like was seven in They

741
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: blitzed almost half the snaps, which was not really their

742
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: style this year, but they basically realized early, oh, like

743
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: we can blitz, They're not gonna communicate well to protect

744
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: Herbert and they're not gonna get anyone open because they're

745
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: not running any man beaters. It was great performance by

746
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: the defense, but also like you want to see some

747
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: adjustments by the Chargers in their coaches.

748
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, what the timing of those blitzes, which were

749
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: just repeated in the fourth quarter of this game. It

750
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 3: kind of signaled two things. Does the immense respect for

751
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert in the fact that they didn't do it

752
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 3: early because they were worried about him capitalizing on having

753
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 3: less men in coverage, and also the immense lack of

754
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: respect for the Chargers' ability to adjust and the ability

755
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: to pick up any stunts. I have not seen an

756
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 3: offensive line get beaten that badly by stunts and by

757
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 3: free rushers in a playoff game in a long time.

758
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: And we shouldn't be surprised. This is a Chargers line

759
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: that has had a billion different combinations. They don't have

760
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 3: their starting tackles. We can acknowledge all of that. It's

761
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 3: not an excuse, but it is reality. It was surprising

762
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 3: to me that it took the Patriots that long to

763
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 3: then capitalize on it. But I think at that point

764
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 3: they realized, oh, you know what, they're not going to

765
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: make us pay. Look at what they're doing here going

766
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: to a huddle. They're taking four yard games. There's less

767
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: than four minutes left in the game. This is as

768
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 3: fast as they can go, and we're also successfully slowing

769
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: them down by substituting guys. So it was just a

770
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: clear advantage I think on the part of the Patriots

771
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: coaching staff that they knew they had the Chargers exactly

772
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 3: where they wanted them. And again speaking about Greg Roman,

773
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 3: it's so it would be so perfect if this was

774
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 3: his last moment in a big game that his quarterback

775
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: finishes as his leading rusher ten carries for fifty seven

776
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: yards for Justin Herbert. Because there is nothing doing on

777
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 3: the ground game for the Chargers of Marion, Hampton only

778
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: has a couple of snaps before his ankle injuries clearly

779
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 3: holding him back. Kamani Vidald does the best he can,

780
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 3: but we see a limited Chargers offense, the same Chargers

781
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 3: offense that was limited throughout most of this season, and

782
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 3: they had to turn games into rock fights. This was

783
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: a rock fight. They just forgot to bring rocks to

784
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: the fight.

785
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, their defense, I think played an excellent game, and

786
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: we'll get to that. But you mentioned the running game. Yeah,

787
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: they have thirty rushing yards outside of Herbert. They only

788
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: had one hundred and twenty net passing yards in under

789
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: three and a half yards per play throwing the ball,

790
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: and I think Herbert missed some throws.

791
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 2: There was a couple we were.

792
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: Watching the game together times in the game where I

793
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: thought Herbert maybe had a checkdown on like a couple

794
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: third downs where he didn't necessarily take it and he

795
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: went for bigger play.

796
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: So that's on him.

797
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: And then I don't know if it's him not protecting

798
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: himself or him just needed to make a play, or

799
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: the offensive lines playing terribly or all of the above.

800
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: But man, he took some hits, including a strip sack

801
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: in the early portions of the fourth quarter that really

802
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: felt kind of like when this game ended Herbert again

803
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: from the.

804
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: Shot field trips to the whiteside. What he dropped back,

805
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: he stands an, he's pressure, he's.

806
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 7: Hit, he stays out of his faint running's on.

807
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: How many goes down trips recovery just un holy crap.

808
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: That yeah, we should have led with that's a banker.

809
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: That's unreal.

810
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 4: But the the circumstances on that sack, you go back

811
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 4: and look, they they come up in trips eventually when

812
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 4: Herbert hits the top of his drop. I'm not being

813
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 4: hyperbolic here. Between Keenan Allen and Lad McConkie, they are

814
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 4: two yards away from each other. They are immediately next

815
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 4: to each other. One defender is occupying two Chargers receivers.

816
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 4: So Herbo comes off of that. By the time he

817
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 4: comes off of that, there's there's no there's nothing for

818
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 4: him to do, like to try to escape and make

819
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 4: the play. And it's this constant balance where you talk

820
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 4: about him taking the four yard games. The four yard

821
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 4: games were the only option on some of these plays

822
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,959
Speaker 4: down the stretch where it's just you would like to

823
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 4: give the quarterback some options, you would like to protect him.

824
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 4: The Chargers were incapable of doing any of that. And

825
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 4: I know ver Shawn Slater and Joel are great players.

826
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 4: I don't know that having them on the field tonight

827
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 4: would have necessarily changed so much of the circumstances for Justin.

828
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 7: Herbert clearly would have helped.

829
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 4: But considering that this is the product for the Chargers,

830
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 4: I don't know what they could have.

831
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: Done in two playoff games. They've scored a total of

832
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: one touchdown on twenty two offensive possessions, been outscored. You know,

833
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: if you're combining those two games forty eight to fifteen,

834
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: and you know it just was tough to watch. You

835
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: sent out the dots of the final fourth down play too,

836
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: where it's just like every Chargers receiver is somehow double

837
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: covered even though there's two or three guys coming three

838
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: through the through the offensive line. It's crazy. But also

839
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: give credit to the Patriots. I thought Christian Gonzalez his

840
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: best game of the season. Five targets his way, zero catches.

841
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: I don't think he's been at his very very best

842
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: this year. He was awesome in this game. Carlton Davis

843
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: with some big sacks, Christian Ellis at linebacker was the

844
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 1: spy all game, and I thought played really well, Marcus Jones.

845
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: You know, they are one of the best tackling teams,

846
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 1: if not the best tackling teams in the NFL. And

847
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: I've been down on the Patriots defense all season. That's

848
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: one thing that they do really well. They don't allow yack.

849
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: They don't allow you know, run after contact either. They

850
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: have the fewest miss tackles in the league. And you

851
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: really saw that they were swarming tonight. Let's talk a

852
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: little bit about the Patriots on offense, because look, the

853
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: numbers will say that they moved the ball all game,

854
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: like they did. They get over four hundred yards, No,

855
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: not quite, not a ton of possessions, but you know,

856
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: they get close to four hundred yards. They moved the

857
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: ball all game, but they couldn't capitalize.

858
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: Nick.

859
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: What did you see out of Drake may in his

860
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: first playoff game?

861
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 3: A mix. There were moments where he took off for

862
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 3: positive games with his legs, which is what we've seen

863
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: him do. In the second half, I thought he got

864
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 3: more comfortable with pocket navigation and making plays. He obviously

865
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 3: had the biggest player of the game to give them

866
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 3: the only touchdown of the game, but early on it

867
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 3: felt like the pressure of the moment was maybe a

868
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: little too big for him, a little bit of like

869
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts to him, where he was almost trying to

870
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: make the perfect play and you could just see like this,

871
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 3: not the speed, but just like the gravity of the moment.

872
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 3: He had to settle in. But he did settle in,

873
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: and he was able to keep them going. The run

874
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: right before halftime was obviously just like vintage him. I

875
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 3: can't can he say vintage about a guy in his

876
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 3: second year because I'm going to do classic Drake May

877
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: where he's just running down the middle of the field

878
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 3: untouched to get them into field goal range. So overall

879
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 3: we give him a good grade, and he finished very strong.

880
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 3: He looked good in the second half. Just not one

881
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: of his best games. But that's perfectly fine. You're in

882
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 3: a playoff game and which your defense is playing fantastically.

883
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 3: You don't really have to do that much. And when

884
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: the time came for him to do the most important things,

885
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 3: he did.

886
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he ends up running for sixty six yards. Remandre

887
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: was very efficient with fifty three yards on the ground.

888
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: They ran it pretty well.

889
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: They didn't run it that often in the game, which

890
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: surprised me. I think if May has above this year,

891
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: it's it's the sack fumbles. Sometimes he's a lot of

892
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: times he's recovered them, but in this game, you know,

893
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: he has one in the fourth quarter where he gets

894
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: absolutely blasted. There's another one where Will Campbell, Uh, let's

895
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: your guy dafe Oway beat him, and that one I

896
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: don't really put on May too much. He holds on

897
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: the ball a little long, but like you know, Campbell

898
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: also gets beat behind him, and so you know, three

899
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: turnovers is not ideal. The first one is on a

900
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 1: tip interception. All of them you can kind of find,

901
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: you know, context for, but otherwise there were a lot

902
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: of a lot of dots in this game. And you

903
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: give the Chargers defense credit, like I think Jesse Minner

904
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 1: had a game.

905
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: Winning plan and a game winning performance.

906
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, you know, there's other aspects to the game and

907
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: they're they're they're great defense This year was it was

908
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: kind of for.

909
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 4: Not yeah, and you really didn't have to Uh, clearly,

910
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 4: the Patriots could have protected the ball a little bit better,

911
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 4: but they didn't necessarily need all the punching power considering

912
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 4: that the performance the defense was putting up there and

913
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 4: in Drake May it's it's gonna take some sack, like, yeah,

914
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 4: there a guy that takes you know, shots down the

915
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 4: field like that is going to give up some opportunities

916
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 4: for the defense. But in terms of the way that

917
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 4: he played, I think in the way that the Chargers

918
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 4: approached this game a solid a solid game by Drake

919
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 4: May where you know, the doubters are going to lean

920
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 4: in and be like, oh, look we told you something

921
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 4: like come on.

922
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: And the doubters by that you mean MJD coming back.

923
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 2: Oh my god. You know, he goes by me in

924
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 2: the news. This is your MVP. This is your MVP.

925
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, three turnovers, sure, but did average over

926
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: nine yards per attempt and was the game's leading rusher

927
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: and in a lot of like moments that I thought,

928
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, didn't make that our highlight reel, he was money.

929
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 1: There was a third and ten coming off his own

930
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: goal line where he fires one into Hunter Henry to

931
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: get that touchdown drive going, and that's like a very

932
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: Drake made type of throw.

933
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 2: There was a fourth down play before they get the

934
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 2: field goal.

935
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 7: Uh.

936
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: After you know, they run a very curious trick play

937
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: on third down, uh, and he hits Kyle Williams on

938
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: the sideline, trusting his rookie to make him play, trusting

939
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: you know, their full back Jack Westover to make a

940
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: playton Chism made a play in this game. And these

941
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: were all great balls of deep ball, the case on Boody.

942
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: So there were a lot of good moments and there

943
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: was the nice touchdown to Hunter Henry. Now, the worst

944
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: throw May had all game was was the miss to

945
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: Austin Hooper. They could have won, you know, kind of

946
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: put this game away a little earlier, but they settled

947
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: for a field goal there. But again he sees one

948
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: of his tight ends streaking open late and he hits

949
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: it right when.

950
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 9: The extra tight end out there with the play fake

951
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 9: drank on a deep dropper, he slides to.

952
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: Touch down. I'm talking about the back fo Hunter Henry

953
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 2: on a little little f shuh. We get we get

954
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: another week of that chuck.

955
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: They will be hosting either the Texans or the Steelers.

956
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: Oh look at this, what's happening?

957
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 3: Welcome to Scott Zolax Club of you four in which

958
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: you can't comprehend. The Gillette Stadium is packed with so

959
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: many Rockets Patriots fans. That was the throw of the game, folks,

960
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 3: drag may open it in the bucket the hunter Henry

961
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 3: right over the defender. That's the play that you want

962
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 3: to look for in the high highlight reel when he

963
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: becomes NFL MVP and we're gonna celebrate it with some

964
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 3: crazy less For those of you not watching.

965
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: On YouTube, I mean, people don't know. Sho is a

966
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: man who can do many things. He can write, he

967
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: can podcast about F one and he can twitch stream.

968
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: And this is what These are your Madden lights. When

969
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: you score a touchdown in Madden.

970
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, these are big play lights. These are anytime you

971
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: got a big play. It could be a turnover, blockfield goal,

972
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: pick six, when you jump a bubble for a touchdown,

973
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 3: any of those moments.

974
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: Why you hold it out? Why are you holding on?

975
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: Who's you back here?

976
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 3: I just brought it back right now.

977
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 7: Let's go.

978
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 2: Okay, okay.

979
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 4: Do you think he strikes Bob all those situations, so many.

980
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 3: Arm punches, so many shoulders, he's.

981
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 4: Still bove to look at look at this place like

982
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 4: we're listening all the radio, Scott, you're.

983
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: The crowds uh. I mean, I guess it can't be

984
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: like a surprise, but it has been a trend. I

985
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: think for some of these crowds in the playoffs, they

986
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: haven't had a lot of home playoff football. In a minute,

987
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville crowd was awesome. The Carolina crowd was absolutely incredible.

988
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: And I know people will be like, wow, wow, the

989
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: Patriots haven't, but you know, it's still been what seven

990
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: years since a playoff win. They were happy to have

991
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: another home game in Foxboro and they were they were

992
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: ready to go.

993
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 7: I did it. They did it.

994
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: They overcame Greg No, no, I'm not saying they overcame him,

995
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: just saying they they had a good time.

996
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: Uh let's uh, let's say goodbye to this Chargers team.

997
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: Ultimately, they overachieved, and people got a little mad of

998
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: like Jim Harbaugh, you know, going back and forth of like, well,

999
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: he didn't go for fourth down on the Patriots side

1000
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: of the fifty early and punted and that was conservative

1001
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: like he is. But then he did go for it

1002
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: inside the ten and they didn't get it, and you're like, oh,

1003
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: Jim Harbor is never going to go for it again,

1004
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: and he didn't. He kicked the field goal inside the

1005
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: ten later in the game. That ultimately wasn't what was

1006
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: gonna matter in this game. They just got physically dominated,

1007
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: and I think it's going to have him look in

1008
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: the mirror and think about his play caller and what

1009
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: they're going to do next. Or no, well we'll have

1010
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 1: to find out. Let's take one final break. We're gonna

1011
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: come back with another coaching staff who was going to

1012
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: be facing some heat after the events of Sunday.

1013
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 5: Forty nine Ers showing heavy, heavy pressure.

1014
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: Let's see if peel.

1015
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 6: Out they back out her shotgun snap, her step up,

1016
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 6: meddle not to lay by Eric Kendricks.

1017
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers takeover on downs. Do you believe

1018
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: in this team?

1019
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 5: What a play the defense has time and time again.

1020
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 6: Two interceptions thrown by the forty nine ers, George Kittle's

1021
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 6: devastating injury in the second quarter, and now the offense

1022
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 6: comes out of the field and they can put this

1023
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 6: thing away here in Philly.

1024
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: To the exits they go.

1025
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: Great call there by Guy Haberman on k n b R,

1026
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: because he not only called the play, but he gave

1027
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: the context of everything that this forty nine Ers team

1028
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:46,479
Speaker 1: has overcome, including yes, playing two linebackers one in Eric

1029
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: Kendricks who made that play, who were not on the

1030
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: active roster a month ago and played over seventy snaps

1031
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: in this game, and they hold the Eagles to nineteen points.

1032
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: Forty nine Ers win twenty three to nineteen. I think

1033
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: it's been a great coaching job this season by Kyle

1034
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: Shanahan and an even better job by his players to

1035
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: step up. Patrick, I'm gonna start talking about actually the

1036
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 1: offense because I know it's like, you know, Brock through

1037
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: a couple interceptions in this game, but the Eagles in

1038
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 1: the Vic Fangio era have been so good on defense.

1039
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 1: This forty nine Ers team actually that had the highest

1040
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: success rate of any team against the Eagles in any

1041
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: game against Vic Fangio's defense, And I was impressed ultimately

1042
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: without George Kittle who leaves with an achilles injury in

1043
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: the second quarter, and without you know, Ricky Piersall and

1044
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: obviously Brandon Ayuk hasn't been there all year, like, they

1045
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: still just find a way to get it done and

1046
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: get enough on offense against a great Philadelphia squad on

1047
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 1: the other side.

1048
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 4: And you can see it also in those interceptions where

1049
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 4: Brock perty was not afraid to challenge Quinnon Mitchell. He

1050
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 4: got away with it early on in the game, but

1051
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 4: that was continue throughout the course of the game, including

1052
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 4: Brock getting first downs and moving the sticks with his

1053
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 4: legs as well, where this team, whoever's available, is executed

1054
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,959
Speaker 4: to a high level all season long.

1055
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 7: I think this was a classic Rock Party game.

1056
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 4: And I know the numbers eighteen to thirty one, two touchdowns,

1057
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 4: two interceptions, like kind of hides that fact when Juwan

1058
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 4: Jennings comes in and you know we have a chance

1059
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 4: to celebrate Tennessee quarterback Juwan Jennings, Oh yeah once again

1060
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 4: and making a great on a great play call, great

1061
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 4: execution by he as well as Christian McCaffrey in the

1062
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 4: entire team where when you see when it works, this

1063
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 4: forty nine ers team is such a well oiled machine

1064
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 4: and there was every opportunity for it to fall apart

1065
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 4: with Jalen Carter having a decent game getting the pressures.

1066
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 4: Just considering the stakes, in the circumstances and what was

1067
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 4: up against Brock Party, I think this was a great

1068
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 4: I agree.

1069
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: Actually it reminds me a lot of the Drake May

1070
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: game where yeah, there were a couple like real big mistakes,

1071
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: but most of the plays were absolutely excellent and he

1072
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: kept firing despite mistakes. The second half kind of was

1073
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: classic like Rock Purty era forty nine ers. If you

1074
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: knew nothing else other than just looking at the drive chart,

1075
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: it's just kind of classic. Interception three and out, touchdown,

1076
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: interception touchdown, It's just like but ultimately, that's two fourth

1077
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: quarter touchdowns. And I thought he played a really good

1078
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: first half, which that you know, completely ignores in terms

1079
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: of being very calculating, kind of being like the Josh

1080
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: Allen from today, making all the right decisions.

1081
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 2: And then he.

1082
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: Got got a couple times by a really good performance

1083
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: by Quinnon Mitchell in the second half. But ultimately, like

1084
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: you're winning the game where you're leading receiver by far

1085
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: as DeMarcus Robinson, that's your number one, and your number

1086
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: three after Christian McCaffrey is Kyle Yuschek, who like he's

1087
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: having to throw to his back shoulder because there's like

1088
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: very little open space in this Philadelphia defense and they're

1089
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: completing difficult catches. And maybe this season doesn't continue after

1090
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: next week.

1091
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 2: We'll see.

1092
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: I think they got a chance against Seattle, but I

1093
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: think it's an achievement for this team to have made

1094
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: it to the final eight.

1095
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 3: It is an achievement. And while I agree that their

1096
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 3: ceiling is lower because of everybody that they've lacked and

1097
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: because of injury and everything else, it also kind of

1098
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 3: makes them dangerous because they've spent so much of this

1099
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 3: season without their key guys. Like I thought about the

1100
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 3: George Kittle injury today, most teams that had George Kittle

1101
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 3: all year would be devastated by the loss of that

1102
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 3: guy as central figure in your game plan. They wouldn't

1103
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 3: know where to turn. Luckily, the forty nine ers have

1104
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 3: spent a good chunk of games this season without George Kittle,

1105
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 3: and that's how we got to learn who Jake Tungus was.

1106
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 3: And he makes a catch in the second half, and

1107
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 3: as soon as he makes that catch, I'm like, oh,

1108
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 3: they've been here, they know what to do without him,

1109
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: They'll be fine. And the same thing goes to their

1110
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 3: receiving corps with DeMarcus Robinson with a long catch and run,

1111
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 3: and after that drive, they didn't move the ball for

1112
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 3: a while. It was very much a story of explosives

1113
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 3: and lulls and then putting a cup together a couple

1114
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 3: of key drives late by just chipping away. But that

1115
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 3: really exhibits the resilience of this football team that has

1116
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 3: already been through so much just to get here, and

1117
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 3: it also is another demonstration of Kyle Shanahan's ability to

1118
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 3: craft up a fantastic game plan called the right plays

1119
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 3: in the right moments and finish the job with a

1120
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 3: quarterback who is very sneakily elusive and was a problem

1121
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:25,959
Speaker 3: for the Eagles who got home a lot of times

1122
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 3: and didn't finish the job. And Perty's ability to both

1123
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 3: slip sacks and then find the pocket and find the

1124
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 3: soft spots and deliver throws. That's what helped elevate them.

1125
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that ultimately, well, probably wouldn't be

1126
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 3: surprised if they lose next week. But I also wouldn't

1127
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 3: be surprised if they made a run all the way

1128
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 3: to the super Bowl, because hey, why not? Why not?

1129
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 3: They've already had been behind the eight ball with a

1130
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 3: hand tied behind their back this entire season. Why not?

1131
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: Well, while we're here, let's actually listen to Juwan Jennings

1132
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: after the game with our friend Mike Gariffolo.

1133
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: Do you know who you're playing next week? I think

1134
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: I hope a Seattle Will. It is Seattle.

1135
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 7: Layers go, I can't wait. That's what we want.

1136
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: It onto the divisional round. Go celebrate this one.

1137
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: Man.

1138
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 2: I appreciate job.

1139
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 9: Man.

1140
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: I just like that. He said, that's who we want,

1141
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 2: That's why who we wanted.

1142
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: We wanted Seattle again and they will get that rematch. Yeah,

1143
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: this was a game where it's sixteen to ten after

1144
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: the Eagles have what was their most successful second half

1145
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: drive to that point, which was a ten play, twenty

1146
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: three yard drive that took five minutes.

1147
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: If you want to know what the.

1148
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: Eagles offense looked like in the second half, it looked

1149
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: like the Eagles offense in the second half from the

1150
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 1: entire season. It's absolutely ridiculous. And they go up sixteen ten,

1151
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: and yet at that point you still were wondering, maybe

1152
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: the Eagles defense is just going to be too good

1153
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: and they can get away with settling for these field

1154
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: goals and not really doing anything on offense. But like

1155
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: in so many of their losses this year, ultimately that

1156
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,959
Speaker 1: stagnation did come back to haunt them. But we didn't

1157
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: really know it until they gave that men Juwan Jennings

1158
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: the ball, but not as a receiver.

1159
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey behind him sky Moore in motion. It's a

1160
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 2: trick play. They give it to more now flip to

1161
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 2: Juwan Jennings.

1162
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 3: And round Jennings throws it to McCaffrey.

1163
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 2: Time please cut out.

1164
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 6: McCaffrey cut it for the touchdown.

1165
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 5: Touchdown forty and that is the forty nine Ers own

1166
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 5: Philly Special. McCaffrey speech the ball into the ground and

1167
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 5: the forty have tied the game.

1168
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 4: A rough, rough period of time for Reid blanken Ship, Yes,

1169
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 4: in this one. He was able to get run over

1170
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 4: for a first down at one coverage bust earlier in

1171
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 4: the game, and in that one he's looking at Jawan

1172
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 4: Jennings on the reverse, but his teammates are there and

1173
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 4: CMC is really the only threat and he gets past him.

1174
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 4: And it's a nice play to kind of hesitate and

1175
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 4: give Blanketship something to think about by Juwan Jennings and

1176
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 4: then throwing that late, so late in fact, that Jalen

1177
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 4: Carter gets a rough in the past penalty on the

1178
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 4: wide receiver throwing the ball. But it's just you gotta

1179
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 4: tip your cap at a certain point in that execution.

1180
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 4: Because even even if blanket Ship carries with CMC like

1181
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 4: Jennings may put that ball over the top of his

1182
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 4: head anyway, And.

1183
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: That actually came before a big read Blankenship penalty which

1184
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: preceded the CMC touchdown that we'll listen to in a sect.

1185
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: But before we move on, you that was from Perdy,

1186
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: not from Jennings. Before we move on from that play though,

1187
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: that is dual threat quarterback Juwan Jennings.

1188
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 2: As you mentioned.

1189
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: Drew Christensen, our great producer and former researcher in the NFL,

1190
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: like he was popping in in our forties in Free

1191
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: Agents episode during the Week Live and pointing out when

1192
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: we were talking about Juwan Jennings and his great quarterbacking

1193
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 1: skills that this was a man who was once ranked

1194
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 1: a four star recruit as the number five dual threat

1195
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: quarterback in the entire NFL that year, just ahead of

1196
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, who hilariously was called a dual threat quarterback

1197
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: as the number six. I mean, I know he's athletic.

1198
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: I guess for high school. I guess for high school. Yeah,

1199
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: you could imagine number six was Donald, number seven was

1200
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, and number nine was Lamar Jackson. So I mean,

1201
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: that was a hell of a draft class and dwant

1202
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: Jennings was on.

1203
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 2: Top of it.

1204
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: And he's now got more playoff touchdowns than Sam Donald

1205
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: because he hit that Super Bowl one to CMC back

1206
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: in the chief Super Bowl too, So what a what

1207
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: a moment, And that was kind of the moment was like, Oh,

1208
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: the Eagles aren't going to lose this game. It really

1209
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: felt like that.

1210
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 3: It was a perfectly executed trick play too, not only

1211
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 3: because of jennings throw, which, by the way, he throws

1212
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 3: that on the run off one foot and it's an

1213
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 3: absolute dime to the outside shoulder to McCaffrey, who makes

1214
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: a Willie mainstat catch in the end zone to get

1215
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 3: the job done. They couldn't have executed this any better.

1216
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 3: Rock Perty even hung in to pretend like he was

1217
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 3: gonna bo just now, oh wait, there's Brock Purdy pretending

1218
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 3: I may chip somebody. Probably not, but I might. And

1219
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 3: guess what, he didn't have to, because Jennings is athletic

1220
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 3: enough to get the throw off perfectly off one foot,

1221
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 3: McCaffrey making a spectacular catch, and if you needed a

1222
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 3: moment in which the momentum of the game shifted permanently

1223
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 3: in favor of the forty nine ers. It was right there.

1224
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: Okay, what but before we get to the dissection of

1225
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: the end of the Philadelphia Eagles season and their chance

1226
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: at defending things, let's listen to someone I thought we

1227
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: weren't gonna hear, you know, in terms of being a

1228
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: play by play guy again this season, Will Gavin of

1229
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: Talk Sport. They sent my guy Will across the pond

1230
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: to go announce this game for talkSPORT, And I thought

1231
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: the party throw to CMC and that drive was a

1232
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: really great evidence of Purdy's maturation because a lot of

1233
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: times in that drive he was getting to the second

1234
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: and third read. It wasn't the obvious throw. He wasn't

1235
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: forcing the ball in the biggest spot, even though I

1236
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: know he had the those two interceptions. He bounced back

1237
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: and he made some money throws, including this score.

1238
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 10: Purdy in the gun, McCaffrey alongside him, three receivers right

1239
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 10: in Jennings, Kendrick Paughn, and DeMarcus Robinson. One receiver to

1240
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 10: the left is his tight end. He sends Born in motion,

1241
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 10: stumps his foot, gets the ball, looks to his right

1242
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 10: hand side, steps up in the pocket, close left and

1243
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 10: said touchdown.

1244
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 2: Niners.

1245
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 13: Christian McCaffrey wrights on the g of the Eagles in the.

1246
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 7: End zone, and.

1247
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 13: In the fourth quarter they retake the lead. San Francisco

1248
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 13: up four twenty three nineteen, and they battered, bruised and

1249
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 13: banged up San Francisco team just won't take it lying down.

1250
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 2: I love it.

1251
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: It Will's a forty nine Ers fan. I don't think

1252
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: he'll mind that being a public information.

1253
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 7: Out at him.

1254
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeahdox, I'm sure he wasn't saying that on that particular broadcast, but.

1255
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: Anyone who follows them he knows.

1256
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: And yeah, what a performance and what a great coaching

1257
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: job too by Robert sal And doing it with this defense.

1258
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: And as we kind of transition here, Shook, I did

1259
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: think like maybe this was the perfect matchup for them.

1260
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it's easy to say in hindsight.

1261
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: Because they're not a team that is gonna get much pressure,

1262
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: and they still tried to blitz Jalen Hurts a lot,

1263
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: but Jalen hurts and this passing game is maybe one

1264
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: of the few ones in the playoffs that it's not

1265
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: necessarily about like the pressure, Like they have not shown

1266
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: an ability necessarily to beat you, even if Jalen Hurts

1267
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: is protected and certainly not over the middle of the

1268
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: field where I think the forty nine ers were most vulnerable.

1269
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's a coincidence. Like literally that's

1270
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: how the game ended, was Jalen Hurts being like a

1271
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: beat late to the middle of the field in area

1272
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: where just historically he hasn't really made hay as a quarterback.

1273
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 3: It's an interesting note about the matchup because I think

1274
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 3: going into this game, like I picked the forty nine

1275
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 3: ers in a three point win the job, and I

1276
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 3: thought about it from both sides, which is okay, let's

1277
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 3: think about their last game against a good defense. They

1278
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 3: could do absolutely nothing against Seattle. That's concerning. But if

1279
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 3: there's one team that you want to play and you

1280
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 3: know that you're gonna have to score points to beat them,

1281
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 3: and that's your advantage because their offense is going to

1282
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 3: be stuck in the mud for most of the game,

1283
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 3: it's the Eagles because they can't figure out how to

1284
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 3: use the copious amounts of talent they have on that

1285
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 3: side of the ball. And we saw it again. It

1286
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 3: wasn't until the final drive of the game when they're

1287
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 3: going no huddle where they're starting to actually move the

1288
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 3: football consistently through the air. Everything was so difficult for them.

1289
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 3: I think about an early Saquon Barkley run where he

1290
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 3: cuts it back and because I think it was one

1291
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 3: of the defensive backs lost contain. He gets a big run,

1292
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 3: you don't hear anything from him for the rest of

1293
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 3: the game because they don't run the ball well. Tank

1294
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 3: Bigsby runs it a little bit better, but ultimately they

1295
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 3: could not get into a rhythm, which is the story

1296
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 3: of their entire season. And it's not just Jalen Hurts,

1297
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 3: it's the entire scheme. Hurts plays a part in it.

1298
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 3: Of course, they don't block as well as they did

1299
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 3: last year, but this operation is not creative. They have

1300
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 3: terrible calls on key downs. The fourth down that you

1301
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 3: know seals the victory for the forty nine ers that

1302
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 3: we play at the start of this recap. It was

1303
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 3: a great example of it where you're just running guys

1304
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 3: in the into the middle of the field into traffic

1305
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 3: and Jalen's forced to make a quick decision. He's also

1306
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 3: a little responsible for breaking clean pockets sometimes. Like just

1307
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 3: the whole operation is not good and I think that

1308
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 3: it is far too telling from what this team has

1309
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 3: been all year. This is none of this is surprising.

1310
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 3: This is the exact frustration that sent Aj Brown to

1311
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 3: talk about it when he was streaming on Twitch playing

1312
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 3: Madden one time. This is this is what fueled the

1313
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 3: drama on that side of the field. And I would

1314
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 3: be stunned, absolutely stunned that if Nick Sirianni remains a coach,

1315
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 3: if he doesn't get rid of his offensive coordinator, Kevin Batoulo.

1316
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 3: It just did not have a grip on the offense

1317
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 3: all year and what to do with this talent. And

1318
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 3: this is how their season I think properly ended.

1319
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 4: But the thing that I keep coming back to is

1320
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 4: if you have to keep finding head coach level offensive

1321
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 4: coordinators to make it work, then I think you've already

1322
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 4: found what a major part of the issue is. Because

1323
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 4: everything has shook pointed out that has gone wrong for

1324
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 4: the Eagles did go wrong. We had Jalen Lea leaving

1325
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 4: a pocket early, which is something he's always done consistently,

1326
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 4: even even in the Super Bowls that he played spectacularly,

1327
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 4: and uh, there was a drop by Aj Brown on

1328
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 4: that final drive that late one of the final Saquon

1329
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,479
Speaker 4: plays that we got in the game because he got hurt.

1330
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 4: Tank Biggsby came in and relief, he worked it out

1331
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 4: on this isline coming back in, but you have Dallas

1332
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 4: Goddard blocking Bryce Huff and getting absolutely washed to the

1333
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 4: extent where Saquon tries to cut back and he ends

1334
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 4: up rolling up on himself and he has to leave

1335
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 4: the game. And then we have the most inexplicable time

1336
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 4: out I've ever seen in a football game, where they

1337
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 4: want to make the play call better. The play call

1338
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 4: has been bad all season long. They want to get

1339
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 4: a they want to get into a better play and

1340
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 4: talk about it more. Meanwhile, they could have had three

1341
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 4: timeouts to get the ball back. Instead, they chose to

1342
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 4: have a discussion where it's like this is this is

1343
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 4: the Eagles twenty twenty five season writ large, and what

1344
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 4: a perfect way for it to end, the same way

1345
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 4: it was the whole.

1346
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: So on brand Nick Sirianni racing to AJ Brown on

1347
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: the sideline, you know, right before halftime because he wanted

1348
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: AJ Brown to get off the field because they were

1349
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: about to punt, and I guess Brown was moving slowly

1350
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: and Brown, you know, getting back in his face, and

1351
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: this is always something and I know it's I know,

1352
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: it's sports. And AJ Brown had a rough game. He

1353
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: had a drop in the first half too, and it

1354
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: was very windy there, and I think that really affected

1355
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: the passing game, especially the deep passing game. There was

1356
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: a deep shot that Jalen Hurts is usually great on

1357
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: that you could tell got taken. But AJ Brown had

1358
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: had two drops and you have to wonder if this

1359
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: is going to be it for him. Here's Nick Sirianni

1360
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: talking about his relationship with his receiver after the.

1361
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 14: Game of Aj. I think he knows how I feel

1362
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 14: about him, have a special relationship with him. We've we've

1363
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 14: probably went through every emotion you can possibly have together.

1364
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 14: We've laughed together, we've cried together, We've yelled at each other.

1365
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 14: You know, we're both emotional. I was trying to get

1366
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 14: him off the field, and you know, you never want

1367
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 14: you know that happens in this game. That happens in

1368
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:22,439
Speaker 14: this game.

1369
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 7: And but I love him.

1370
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 2: I get it, But no I don't.

1371
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 3: I don't because here's the thing. Control your emotions. There's

1372
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 3: no there's nothing good about you running down and telling

1373
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 3: you one are your best players to get off the

1374
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 3: field because you're frustrated keep it controlling.

1375
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: He said, like we're both super Bowl and he's like, hey,

1376
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: we're both emotional guys.

1377
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: But it's like, yeah, but that's that's your writer receiver.

1378
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 2: You're the coach.

1379
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, invest that.

1380
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 4: Energy elsewhere, like like in terms of decision making and

1381
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 4: coaching and being on the sideline. Why is that energy

1382
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 4: not being invested elsewhere other than sprinding down the field

1383
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 4: to get a J Brown when like there's there's other

1384
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 4: folks that are need to get off the field at

1385
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 4: the same time too.

1386
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like.

1387
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: The yelling at aj thing is is more of a symptom.

1388
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: The things that really bother me more is the timeout

1389
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 1: which you mentioned, the give up plays. There was a

1390
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: second and nineteen run. I'm so sick of the Eagles

1391
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: with these like second and nineteen runs that go nowhere.

1392
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: There was also a third and thirteen Jalen Hurts quarterback run.

1393
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 2: I believe that might.

1394
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: Have set up that field goal to go up sixteen

1395
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: to ten. It's like it's almost not even trying and

1396
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: that happens all the time. And then it's just the

1397
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: continuous second half anti adjustments where they just have these

1398
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: stretches every single week where in this drive in this game.

1399
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: You know, if you go back to the last drive

1400
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: of the second quarter, it was a five drive sequence

1401
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: where they gained a total of forty nine yards. And

1402
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: it just happens. It happens every week. And you mentioned

1403
01:06:54,760 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: Shook if he's the coach, I have never witnessed a

1404
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: spicier moment in the coaching carousel. Then we're in right now,

1405
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: eight eight coaches available, eight coaches available. And why I

1406
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: think it's spicy is just the uncertainty where we are

1407
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: today because we don't know what Harbaugh is going to do, right,

1408
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: but we don't know what's going to happen with Matt Lafleur.

1409
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: He met with the media on Sunday. He says he's

1410
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: going to meet with you know, Team president ed Policy.

1411
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter pointedly did a whole you know, quote unquote

1412
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: report on Sunday morning that basically was what we talked

1413
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: about on Thursday on our show, that Hey, you know,

1414
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 1: Bob Harlan's son happens to represent John Harbaugh, and wouldn't

1415
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: it be interesting, you know, John Harbaugh lives in the Northwest,

1416
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: and that would be interesting if maybe he would like

1417
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 1: that would be a job that he would really like

1418
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: the Packers.

1419
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, me too.

1420
01:07:59,040 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 7: It's nice to one.

1421
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Adam Schefter isn't just throwing it out there

1422
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 1: willy nilly.

1423
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 2: It's for a purpose. It's either to put some heat.

1424
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: It's well for John Harbor to make more money, but

1425
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: maybe for John Harbor to get that job, you know,

1426
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: either to create leverage. But it's interesting the little fir

1427
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: thing is hanging out there. The Dolphins are in this

1428
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 1: whole mix. Could the Eagles possibly get in this mix?

1429
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 1: Like it's almost a game of chicken. I don't think

1430
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 1: the Packers would would want Matt Lafleur to get out

1431
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 1: there if they thought maybe maybe he would end up

1432
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,719
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia or maybe you know, maybe you know, that's.

1433
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 2: It's a whole triangle.

1434
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: And do you think that the Eagles could get in

1435
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: the mix here because you know John Harbor people went

1436
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: remember like he came up in the Philadelphia system.

1437
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 2: It's just a lot, it's spicy.

1438
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if phone calls have already been

1439
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 3: made from somebody's limo Well they were home, so well

1440
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 3: maybe still taking a limo car service home from the

1441
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 3: game from Lincoln Financial Field, Uh to uh, kick the

1442
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 3: tires on some potential candidates out there. I thought you

1443
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 3: were going to pivot toward what would happen if Nick

1444
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 3: Sirianni got fired and just threw a powder keg into

1445
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 3: the whole coaching Garret.

1446
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: I am. I'm saying, like, what if he gets fired

1447
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 1: and they bring in harbar or.

1448
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 2: Something or the coach.

1449
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about him getting a head coaching job somewhere

1450
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 3: else and blowing that up. But fine too, how about this, though,

1451
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,839
Speaker 3: I think that we deserve this uncertainty and potential chaos

1452
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 3: scenario because what did we talk about with this coaching

1453
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 3: Garris all this whole off season? Oh, I don't know.

1454
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 3: Do you make the fight? You get rid of the

1455
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 3: coach because the geanets out there aren't too strong? Well,

1456
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 3: suddenly we might be chock full of big time candidates

1457
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,759
Speaker 3: and it could get really interesting.

1458
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 7: I wanted to get super spicy.

1459
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 4: I would like an agent to tell somebody, to tell

1460
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 4: an insider that an agent's going to prevent somebody from

1461
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 4: getting a job, as opposed to saying, oh, well, agents

1462
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 4: who definitely have value provided to their customers are helping

1463
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 4: somebody get a job they maybe shouldn't but because the

1464
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 4: agent is under contract, then that's why you should hire

1465
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 4: this person.

1466
01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I do think the agent sometimes.

1467
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 1: Use the media No Two what make their clients more

1468
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: money From aging businessmen whose whole life hasn't been football

1469
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: and maybe aren't the best at evaluating the right things,

1470
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: who to give all their money to and why to

1471
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: give all their money, that they actually really listen to

1472
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: these reports that that does have some function.

1473
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 4: So instead of just telling them themselves, I don't know,

1474
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 4: they tell somebody else to tell everybody.

1475
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:34,799
Speaker 1: I think there are ownership who value like what chefter

1476
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: and rappaport, and everyone's saying more than the people inside

1477
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: their own building.

1478
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 3: I know of the agent connection between somebody who's a

1479
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 3: higher up at a few organizations getting a few lower

1480
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 3: level coaches hired. This is definitely a real thing. Definitely

1481
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 3: a real thing. So, I mean, you guys are right.

1482
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: There's no other way to explain the fact that you're proud.

1483
01:10:55,439 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens like weren't ashamed enough to not send out

1484
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 1: the tweet that said Matt Naggy interviewed Friday. Why is

1485
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 1: Matt Naggy getting five interviews? It has to be it's

1486
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: got to have a great agent, Like what is happening?

1487
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think it's the Yes, the thing is happening.

1488
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 4: Should the thing be happening?

1489
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 2: Well?

1490
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 7: Is a is a part of it?

1491
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 2: And I just you know, that's a good thing to

1492
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 2: pint out.

1493
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 7: I would I would like to know. I'd like to

1494
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 7: know all of the wise, all the wise.

1495
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 1: I mean that that is a great question for this

1496
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: entire Eagles season, all the wise. There everyone was kind

1497
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: of holding out hope this whole time, like maybe they

1498
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: just pressed the button then, like we just would see

1499
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: playoff play, you know, Jaylen and in a different game,

1500
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: like they could have escaped this game.

1501
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 4: But this is a Niners team that hasn't been able

1502
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,480
Speaker 4: to rush the passer, yeah, for for ten weeks. Yeah,

1503
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 4: this is this is a nasty loss, Like there's something

1504
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 4: has to change.

1505
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 2: It's a good point.

1506
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: They had I think, I like one of the lowest

1507
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 1: success rates of the entire season for the Eagles and

1508
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: it happened against this lower tier defense. And yeah, you

1509
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 1: mentioned Saquon He had four for sixty five on that

1510
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 1: first drive, first touchdown drive. They always look good at

1511
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: the beginning. In the next twenty two carries, he had

1512
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: in this game. He gained a total of forty one yards,

1513
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 1: and it felt like every other snap in the fourth

1514
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: quarter was like a run for negative three.

1515
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: What a wild card weekend and it's not over yet,

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01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, as as Tony Romo would say, ah, here

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01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: we go, Jim. But now it's like sentient Romo, did

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01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: you notice the thing today? I don't know if you

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01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: were locked in Like he was like too self aware

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01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 1: because he was about to say that in the right

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01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 1: moment of the game for the Jaguars, but then he

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01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 1: sort of said it in a voice that was like

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01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,759
Speaker 1: making fun of Tony Romo, while Tony Romo was saying

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01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: it like he was audibleling on the fly because he

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01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: knows everyone makes fun of him for it. And that

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Speaker 1: Tony Romo kind of makes me even sadder, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Oh all right, I mean he's done it a few

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01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 3: times late in close games of the season where he

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01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 3: does it like I'm leaning on my catch traps. So

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01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 3: instead of being like, here we go with full exuberance, he's.

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01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, oh, that's not that we need.

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Speaker 15: We need the full Tony experience bringing back I'm excited

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Speaker 15: and look I've been picking a Rams Seahawks NFC championship

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01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 15: game all year, saying that they're the best two teams,

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01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 15: and it was looking for a while like that was impossible.

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Speaker 2: We were going to get that as a divisional round game.

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01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: But no, now that the forty nine Ers pulled off

1540
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: this upset, it'll be the forty nine ers going back

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01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 1: to Seattle, and yeah, the Rams will be in Chicago.

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01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 1: We will finish the AFC field on Monday night. A

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01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 1: treat on Sunday night here with my friends Patrick and Nick,

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01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 1: my only two friends in the world for this eighty minutes.

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01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,759
Speaker 1: But no, there's other great people in my life, I promise,

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01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 1: other than football.

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01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 2: Please.

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01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for that music to hit. Eric likes

1549
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 1: to hang me out to dry. Why do you as

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01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:10,759
Speaker 1: a friend, He's already playing mind games ahead of Bill's

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01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: Patriots potentially.

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01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if the Patriots are

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01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 2: gonna get there.

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01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:17,799
Speaker 1: We'll find out if the Texans are going to Foxboro

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01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 1: Monday night live on YouTube for the last time on

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01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 1: a Monday night.

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Speaker 2: I'll season see then