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Speaker 1: average American visits twenty different types of doctors before they die,

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Speaker 1: Seventeen point six prescriptions are filled per person each year,

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Speaker 1: and nineteen percent of adult women taken antidepressant. The Financial

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Speaker 1: there's been a dramatic rise in cancer in millennials. For men,

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Speaker 1: So why are Americans so unhealthy? What's behind it? We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to a guy who has been on a mission

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Speaker 2: His name is Calli Means. He's the founder of True Med.

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Speaker 1: It's a company that issues prescriptions for food and exercise,

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Speaker 1: which you would think would be the goal in all this,

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Speaker 3: It, pumped to be here. You know, Kelly.

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Speaker 1: As I say that, I mean, we do have so

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Speaker 4: This would destroy the economy in the short term. Healthcare

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Speaker 4: So right now pharma, which I tied to the intervention

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it'd be a short term dislocation, but it's

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Speaker 4: And it's almost like we're scoring an own goal and

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Speaker 1: Well, even when I say, you know, I try to

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Speaker 4: more story, you know, I've talked about this before, but

436
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Speaker 4: a huge emphasis for me on this is my mom.

437
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Speaker 4: You know, abruptly in twenty twenty one got pay cred

438
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Speaker 4: of cancer and twelve days later died. And it was

439
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Speaker 4: it was it was obviously shocking, and she was our

440
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Speaker 4: best friend. But in a way it really heightened this

441
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 4: mission because the oncologists at Stanford where she was dying

442
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 4: said this was unlucky her cancer. But you go back

443
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 4: forty years and she had some fertility issues, having me

444
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 4: I was twelve pounds, which which is actually an indicator

445
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Speaker 4: of metabolic dysfunction that she probably you know, had predestational diabetes. Oh,

446
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Speaker 4: that's fine. She had high cholesterol. Took a stand high

447
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 4: blood sugar, took that form, and she had all of

448
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Speaker 4: these conditions, high blood pressure. Took a pill for that,

449
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 4: So she was on five pills by the time she

450
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Speaker 4: was seventy. Oh that's normal. Eighty percent you know, or

451
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Speaker 4: excuse me, forty percent of people your age are on

452
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 4: a stat no problem. It was all these rites of passages,

453
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 4: all these siloed issues, you know, not ringing the alarm

454
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Speaker 4: bell forty years ago when I was born large, when

455
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Speaker 4: she had distational diabetes, when she had fertility issues, that

456
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Speaker 4: could be a warning sign.

457
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Speaker 3: That could be actually a gift that you actually have

458
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 3: some underlying metabolic dysfunction that will eventually lead to something

459
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: more serious later. But no, it was an isolated pill

460
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 3: masking the issue each time, and then oh tough break

461
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Speaker 3: when she ends up dying.

462
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Speaker 4: Cancer isn't random. Alzheimer's is now called type three diabetes.

463
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 4: It's so tied to blood sugar, just regulation what we're eating.

464
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 4: If you have stable blood sugar, which I really believe

465
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 4: is a barometer on your diet and lifestyle and is

466
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 4: very under control and can be reversed in a matter

467
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Speaker 4: of months with the right You know, with the right interventions,

468
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 4: you are not going to die of covid, like you

469
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 4: are not going to get Alzheimer's. You by definition aren't

470
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Speaker 4: going to get diabetes. You have almost a zero percent

471
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Speaker 4: chance of getting heart disease, and just go down the list.

472
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Speaker 3: The fact that our medical.

473
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Speaker 4: Leaders aren't saying this like in Unison, the fact that

474
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Speaker 4: ninety five percent of the people that make our nutrition

475
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 4: guidelines are directly paid by food companies, The fact that

476
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 4: doctor Fauci was only talking about a marginal pharmaceutical solution

477
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 4: instead of the fact that COVID only killed metabolic and

478
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 4: healthy people like this is a scandal, and it's because

479
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 4: the largest interest in the country actually profits from the

480
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 4: fact that our food system has been totally totally corrupted.

481
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Speaker 2: I mean, they have to know they're killing us.

482
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 3: I go back and forth on that, and that's what

483
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: a lot of people hit on, is what you know,

484
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: what's the like, what's the motivation here? And I'll tell

485
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Speaker 3: you I've I've had some very dark views on this

486
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 3: and kind of modulate, you know, based on the day

487
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Speaker 3: I would say this. I think the beauty of the

488
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 3: system in a way is that everyone has some plausible deniability, right,

489
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 3: Like nobody is response for asking.

490
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 4: Why everyone's getting sick, right. You know, these obestie clinics

491
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 4: that are popping up, they're trying to help patients, you know,

492
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 4: manage their obesity, give them drugs and surgeries. They're not

493
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 4: asking why people are getting obese. They fundamentally lose money.

494
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Speaker 4: If those patients learn to eat better and actually manage

495
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 4: you know, they're they're incentivized, you know, for these lifetime drugs,

496
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Speaker 4: this new a zebic thing and surgeries and they can

497
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 4: probably maybe go to sleep at night or convince themselves

498
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Speaker 4: to Doctor Fauci feels like he's giving grants to you know, to.

499
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Speaker 3: Researchers, to to research disease.

500
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Speaker 4: Uh, not really taking response for the fact that he's

501
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 4: responsible for trillions of dollars. I think over his career

502
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 4: in age, it's like almost a trillion dollars of research

503
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 4: funding for chronic disease management and chrimeic disease race have exploded,

504
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 4: which is in the interest of.

505
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Speaker 3: Everyone he's funding. So I think there is potentials.

506
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 4: But if you look at doctors right now, they're the

507
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 4: highest suicide rate and the highest burnout rate of any profession.

508
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 4: If you talk to any doctor off the record at

509
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 4: any hospital in America, they'll say something's very wrong. They'll

510
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 4: say their system is not helping patients, the patients aren't

511
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 4: getting better. And I think when you look at that

512
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 4: suicide rate, which is actually at epidemic levels for doctors,

513
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 4: you don't you know, missionaries who are working hard don't

514
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 4: commit suicide at epidemic rates.

515
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 3: People that believe in what they're doing. They've actually The.

516
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 4: New York Times, which they were right in this case,

517
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 4: actually did a study of doctors recently has said they

518
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 4: have the same chronic across the medical field, the same

519
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 4: psychological problem that soldiers who for forced to commit war

520
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 4: crimes have that doctors are actually realizing and have this

521
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 4: PTSD feeling because they got in for the right reasons,

522
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 4: but actually understand that they're actually committing crimes against humanity essentially.

523
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Speaker 4: So I actually do think there's this awareness building. I

524
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 4: think we all know good doctors, but I do think

525
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 4: there is a lack of moral courage among leaders in

526
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 4: the medical industry, among pharmaceutical leaders, hospital leaders, doctors to

527
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 4: not raise their hand and say, this has to end

528
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 4: our voracious appetite as a system for more and more

529
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 4: sick patients to grow.

530
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Speaker 3: It's going to destroy the country.

531
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Speaker 4: What are the assumptions of a brand new pediatric cardiology center.

532
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 4: The loans that underwrote the building of that hospital necessitate

533
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Speaker 4: more kids with heart problems.

534
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Speaker 3: It will the loan.

535
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 4: That Goldman Sachs gave that hospital some big bank will

536
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 4: default if more kids don't get sick. The new obeste

537
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 4: clinics that they're building will go bankrupt and people will

538
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 4: be fired if more people don't get obese. Like this is,

539
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 4: you just have to look at the banks that are

540
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 4: underwriting and investing in this industry and look at their models,

541
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 4: and look when they're underwriting the new obestie drug, they

542
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 4: have rates of obestie going up as the drugists prescribe more.

543
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 4: That's what the dollars tell us. That's what history tells us.

544
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 4: But we're being gaslighted and told that more and more,

545
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 4: like siloed drugs that just band aid the problem instead

546
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 4: of the core issue, which is food, are going to work.

547
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 4: We're being played for fools, and it unfortunately keeps working well.

548
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Speaker 1: And not only a band aid, but I mean it's

549
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: a vicious cycle because we're being encouraged to eat food

550
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: that's making us sick, then put on medicine, and then

551
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: what are the consequences of the medicine, Like what are

552
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: the consequences of taking ozembic for the future, or you know,

553
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: what are the consequences of the COVID vaccine for someone

554
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: who is never at risk from COVID in the first

555
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: place was forced to get the vaccine, or even on

556
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: infertility to be honest, like, I don't have any evidence

557
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: of this, but I have concerned about what birth control

558
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Speaker 1: that they give young women over a long period of

559
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Speaker 1: time does to a woman's body. Is that introducing something

560
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: unnatural to a woman? Is that creating? And you know,

561
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Speaker 1: into what are the consequences of the things that are

562
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: quote unquote supposed to fix us?

563
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Speaker 4: Well, let's just take a case study of a child

564
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Speaker 4: to answer that question. So the America Academy Pediatrics, which

565
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 4: that's the standard of care for pediatric pediatric management, is

566
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 4: their bulk of their budget comes from pharma. They have

567
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Speaker 4: been given millions of dollars by the Ozimpic maker, and

568
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 4: they recently said after just a sixty eight week study,

569
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Speaker 4: one of the shortest studies ever to approve a drug.

570
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Speaker 4: They have said that kids twelve years and enough who

571
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Speaker 4: are overweight obese should be prescribed to ozembic, which is

572
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Speaker 4: a lifetime treatment. Okay, So let's take the forty five

573
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Speaker 4: percent of teenagers who are overweight obese. Okay, they inevitably

574
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 4: have high blood pressure, they nevertly have high blood sugar

575
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 4: bag cholesterol, overweight, should they're put on ozempic?

576
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: Okay? What are they being told when they are given ozmpic.

577
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 4: The core doctors who are speaking out about OBC, doctor

578
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 4: Fatima Stanford, who is at Harvard, who was on sixty

579
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 4: minutes and it's paid for biozembic said obesi is a

580
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 4: brain disease. Children have been completely misled to say it's

581
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 4: tied to diet or lifestyle. She literally said this. You

582
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 4: can google in sixty minutes. That is the message from

583
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 4: It actually has to be the message from OBC doctors,

584
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 4: because if you establish the OBC is under control, you

585
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 4: can't label as a disease that we need government funding

586
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 4: to treat that people have no control over. So obest

587
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 4: medicine field has completely washed their hands and said obese

588
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 4: is not due to what you do, it's genetic, okay.

589
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 4: So the kid being given ozimpic is told it's not

590
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 4: about food, So that kid takes the ozempic and there's

591
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 4: a core side effects.

592
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: There's the black box.

593
00:31:53,960 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 4: Warning on on on thyroid cancer. The EU has actually

594
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 4: put a halt to prescriptions because it's causing such high

595
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 4: rates of suicidal aviation and depression, which makes total sense

596
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 4: because the drug is gas or intentional dysfunction, and ninety

597
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 4: five percent of our serotonin is in our gut, which

598
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 4: regulates to our happiness, and the drug is a weapon

599
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 4: of mass destruction for the gut bite. By definition, it's

600
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 4: it's it's it's essentially ejectable bolimia, which is which is

601
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 4: what it is. So there's a host of side effects.

602
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: But even if the drug worked perfectly, you're telling that

603
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 4: child don't worry about what you eat. So maybe they're

604
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 4: eating what twenty percent less crappy food, but they're still

605
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 4: fueling their cells with crappy food. So they're going to

606
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 4: get on a stand obviously, which you know forty percent

607
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 4: of men over forty r on so they're going to

608
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 4: get on a stand. There's huge side effects with stands

609
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 4: that are increasing.

610
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 3: Or coming out.

611
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 4: Joe Rogan just did a big episode on this, But

612
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 4: stands are very problematic. But even if they were perfect,

613
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 4: you're still being told, oh, you now have your heart

614
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: disease at Bay, no problem, keep eating whatever you want.

615
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 4: Then they inevitably are on that format or insulin or

616
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 4: something for diabetes. Shockingly, the American Diabetes Association until twenty

617
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 4: eighteen said that if you take your diabetes medication, you

618
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 4: can eat whatever you want. You can drink cokes, eat

619
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Speaker 4: any food you want, as much sugar as you want,

620
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 4: as long as you take your diabetes medication. Absolutely criminal,

621
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 4: but that's the message people are being told. They're being

622
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 4: told that they're doing something by taking the pill. But

623
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Speaker 4: if they don't reverse the.

624
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: Underlying habits that are actually causing all these comorbidities, or

625
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: you're not going to play whack them all with the pill.

626
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: You can literally, you.

627
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Speaker 4: Know, as a health strategy, take the four trillion dollars

628
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 4: that we spend on healthcare and actually like work to

629
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 4: drive better root cause outcomes. It sounds so simple, but

630
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Speaker 4: that's the way anyone would design the system. If they

631
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 4: just came with a blindfold on and saw the fact

632
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 4: that fifty percent of adults were pre diabetic or diabetics

633
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 4: eighty percent worldbes all of the metabolic that's obviously what

634
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 4: you would do. You know, you'd work to take some

635
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 4: of the poison out of our food system. You wouldn't

636
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 4: recommend from the USDA that two year old should eat

637
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 4: ten percent of their diez added sugar, which we do today.

638
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 4: You wouldn't subsidize sugar and ultra processed food, which we do,

639
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 4: which is a completely non conservative policy. You know, you

640
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 4: would just start to unwind the fact that we recommend

641
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 4: and subsidize poisonous food. You know, and I would personally

642
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 4: pay lower income folks on Medicaid who are diabetic, who

643
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 4: are bankrupting our country, pay them to exercise, and just

644
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 4: think about incentives to get people. That would save us

645
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 4: much more than the fact, you know, a thirty year

646
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 4: old on Medicaid who's diabetic is costing our system the taxpayers,

647
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 4: millions of dollars over the course of their life. Diabetes

648
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 4: is a brilliant disease for the medical system because it

649
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 4: doesn't kill you right away, but it guarantees you have

650
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 4: more home moorbidities to manage.

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Speaker 1: We're supposed to be, you know, body positivity. You know

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Speaker 1: it's okay to be. You know. The Financial Times recently

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Speaker 1: had an article about the dramatic rising cancer and millennials. Right,

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Speaker 1: you had touched upon this earlier. But how much of

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Speaker 1: cancer is avoidable?

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Speaker 4: Oh my mom's Pancreatic cancer is highly tied to blood

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Speaker 4: sugar speculation and pre diabetes, diabetes, breast cancer. I can

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Speaker 4: just cannot stress this enough. Right, we all can understand

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Speaker 4: the link between smoking and lung cancer. Elevated blood sugar

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Speaker 4: you know they essentially pre diabetes or diabetes is as

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Speaker 4: predictive for many leading forms of cancer as smoking is

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Speaker 4: to lung cancer. Cancer is not random at all, As

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Speaker 4: I said, fifty percent of dogs we process crap we

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Speaker 4: give them have cancer. Cancer rates are demnimous in the

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Speaker 4: natural world, right and any animal can get cancer.

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Speaker 3: This is this is essentially a invention of what humans

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Speaker 3: have done to ourselves.

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Speaker 4: And food is number one. But it's basic stuff. It's food, sleep, movement,

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Speaker 4: environmental toxins. You know. Again, I used to work for

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Speaker 4: you know, large consumer packaged good companies and say it's

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Speaker 4: a nanny state to regulate the chemicals and substances in

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Speaker 4: our food and personal care products. But I think that

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Speaker 4: actually I've been I was gaslighted by the system to

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Speaker 4: call that nanny state. What's nanny state is that corporations

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Speaker 4: have rived and corrupted the government so much that there

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Speaker 4: are thousands of neurotoxins in our household products and food.

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Speaker 3: That are banned in every other developed country. That's not

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Speaker 3: the free market. Actually, that's a corruption of the market

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Speaker 3: right there, that we don't have oversight of proven neurotoxins.

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Speaker 4: In our in our food and personal care products. So,

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Speaker 4: you know, you go down this rabbit hole. You look

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Speaker 4: at healthcare influencers. They're basically ringing alarm about everything. They're

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Speaker 4: ringing along about shampoo. They're ringing laur about you know,

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Speaker 4: what's in our air, what's in our water, what's in

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Speaker 4: our food? Uh but but but but I will say,

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Speaker 4: and this is how I look at it. I won't

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Speaker 4: trade our benefits of modern society for everything I think

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Speaker 4: the US and capitalism has produced, you know, the greatest.

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Speaker 4: I would not want to be in any other society.

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Speaker 4: But that does not mean we haven't lost our way

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Speaker 4: in some key areas, and uh, we have been. Our

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Speaker 4: systems have been corrupted, and we absolutely should not be

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Speaker 4: trusting the institutions that you know, make the products that

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Speaker 4: we put on our our children's in our children's bodies,

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Speaker 4: in our bodies. And this is the tax we have

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Speaker 4: to pay as I think, taking more uh uh, trusting

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Speaker 4: the system a little bit less and taking matters in

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Speaker 4: our own hands more.

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Speaker 3: But but yeah, to reel it all back.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, this is uh tied to the fact that cancer

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Speaker 4: is rising dramatically among kids. They don't call it early

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Speaker 4: on set diabetes diabetes anymore. You know, one third of

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Speaker 4: all new diabetes cases among among teenagers and young adults.

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Speaker 3: They used to call that early onset. It used to

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Speaker 3: be super rare. There's early onset Alzheimer's.

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Speaker 4: They're about to drop the early onset label because people

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Speaker 4: so much younger are getting dimensioned Alzheimer's now, So everything

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Speaker 4: is going younger and it's all tied together.

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Speaker 1: So if someone's listening to this and they're saying, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm not going to let these assholes kill

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Speaker 1: me with their crappy food. I don't want to take

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to make big pharma even

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Speaker 1: richer by taking their meds. What does a healthy lifestyle

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Speaker 1: actually look like?

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Speaker 4: So on a one top down thing, I think we've

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Speaker 4: got to I think there's massive frustration on this issue.

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Speaker 4: But the reason that big food and big pharma win

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Speaker 4: is because they're able to focus their efforts on specific legislation,

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Speaker 4: whereas it's very dispersed. But I think every parent in

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Speaker 4: the country is horrified by how sick kids are getting

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Speaker 4: and how overweight. One thing I just say is I

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Speaker 4: would encourage everyone to call, you know, their elected representatives.

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Speaker 4: The food stamp bill is up for renewal right now,

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Speaker 4: and they're about to continue to hand out to Cocus

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Speaker 4: the number one item that we subsidize on food stamps.

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Speaker 3: Senator Rubio and Senator.

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Speaker 4: Booker Biparison bill just very simple, just not pay for

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Speaker 4: sugar water with a government nutrition program which is totally

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Speaker 4: letting down lower income people. You know, single moms in

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Speaker 4: such war depending on this program to have their kids

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Speaker 4: buy nutritious food. So so call and support the Rubio

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Speaker 4: Booker bill to not have food stamps fund to coke anymore.

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Speaker 4: It's the number one item on food stamps. But it's

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Speaker 4: got to be a bottom up, bottoms up revolution of

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Speaker 4: one hundred percent. And the key message I have is

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Speaker 4: that we have been completely lied to that things are complicated.

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Speaker 4: If you scan your label for three ingredients, you're getting

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Speaker 4: eighty percent there. So the three ingredients obviously are are

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Speaker 4: added sugar, which which is everywhere sugar consumption is up

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Speaker 4: one hundred times and one hundred years. Sugar is the

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Speaker 4: most deadliest and I think most pernicious drug in the country.

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Speaker 4: I think with food we have an addiction problem, myself included.

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Speaker 4: We all are in some addicted. Food is the weaponar

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Speaker 4: And if you start cutting sugar out of your diet,

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Speaker 4: which comes obviously comes in surprising places, you're getting a

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Speaker 4: long way there.

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Speaker 3: Number two is seed oils. Seed oils are the number

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Speaker 3: one source.

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Speaker 4: Of American calories right now, if you look at anything,

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Speaker 4: you'd be shocked, right, there will be numerous seed soybean oil,

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Speaker 4: safflower oil, sunflower oil. It is unbelievable how these ingredients

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Speaker 4: sneak into any product you buy, even if it's at

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Speaker 4: whole foods, organic, expensive, you always have seed oils. These

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Speaker 4: did not exist in the American diet until one hundred

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Speaker 4: years ago because they were only created one hundred years

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Speaker 4: ago as an industrial byproduct by John Rockefeller, as a

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Speaker 4: byproduct of oil production, originally made to grease machinery. Literally,

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Speaker 4: these are cheap oils that are now the staple and

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Speaker 4: largest sources of calorie in the American diet. And I

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Speaker 4: think you are seeing and going to see increasing research

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Speaker 4: come out about the scandal of seed oils. So you

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Speaker 4: want to stick to olive oil, You want to stick

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Speaker 4: to butter, You want to stick to healthy.

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Speaker 3: Fats that aren't seed oils. Number three is highly processed grains.

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Speaker 4: So if you go to a grocery store, gas station,

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Speaker 4: if you pick up anything, you'd be shocked, right. It's

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Speaker 4: some kind of enriched wheat, probably some sugar, and then

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Speaker 4: a couple of seed oils, like those three ingredients are

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Speaker 4: the foundation of ultra processed food, which is seventy percent

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Speaker 4: of our diet now.

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Speaker 3: And all three of those ingredients didn't exist one hundred

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Speaker 3: years ago. You know, processed you know, readily available sugar

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Speaker 3: is a wholly new invention. Seed oils are new. And

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Speaker 3: then the processed grain.

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Speaker 4: The processing takes the fiber off of the grain and

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Speaker 4: creates into this frankin food that allows products to stay

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Speaker 4: on shelves for years. But the fiber contains a lot

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Speaker 4: of the nutrients and blunts the glucose impact. So if

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Speaker 4: you eliminate those three ingredients, you're basically forcing, particularly with

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Speaker 4: your kids, to a more whole foods diet. Or if

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Speaker 4: you're buying processed food, it's probably slightly better. But but

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Speaker 4: but that that would be it. Uh, you know, And

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Speaker 4: I think something that's helped me is just seeing you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't really like to exercise, but my mental shift

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Speaker 4: has been exercise is just a tax that we have

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Speaker 4: to pay in modern society. You know, we used to

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Speaker 4: walk around a lot as humans, We used to be

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Speaker 4: in the stun more. You know, indoors is basically a

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Speaker 4: new concept biologically, but we have, like we're being forced

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Speaker 4: into a sedentary life and getting movement and building that

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Speaker 4: habit isn't for anything other than the fact that if

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Speaker 4: you put any animal in an enclosed cage in New

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Speaker 4: And I think we really are going crazy by lack

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Speaker 4: of movement. So that that that that's at least we

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Speaker 4: can go down the list. But it's it's going through

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Speaker 4: the basic metabolic habits. It's cut the ultra processed food,

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Speaker 4: move sleep. You know, read books by Mark Hymen, by

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Speaker 4: Rob Lustig, by a lot of Warriors in the Space, frankly,

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Speaker 4: listening to Joe Rogan and another podcast you're talking about it,

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Speaker 4: you know, and just go on a path of curiosity

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Speaker 1: Now I have to work out it's just a mental

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Speaker 1: health thing. It just clears my mind. It's like I

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Speaker 1: just I have to I'd ask you about alcohol, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm ready for that conversation.

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Speaker 2: Before we go and tell us a little bit about

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Speaker 3: So after my mom died.

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Speaker 4: That was a big impact on me, and then my sister,

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Speaker 4: ninety percent of doctors that graduate, and went on a

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Speaker 3: Doctor Casey means.

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Speaker 4: So I started asking a couple of years ago, how

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Speaker 4: your family.

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Speaker 3: So that's our mission. And I'm also writing a book

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Speaker 3: which is coming out next year with my sister on

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Speaker 3: this topic, which we're really excited about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'd love to have you both on when

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Speaker 1: the book comes out, and maybe we can talk about alcohol.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know, we might want to give that.

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Speaker 3: You know, you got to have some fun, but you

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Speaker 3: just sugar are sometimes alcohol sometimes. But the analogous point

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Speaker 3: is like we're not putting alcohol or recommending alcohol or

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Speaker 3: kids and putting in all the like sugar just sneaks

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Speaker 3: in everywhere. I think that's the problem.

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Speaker 4: We just we need to think of more things like

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Speaker 4: alcohol like not necessarily a good thing. Not a good thing,

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Speaker 4: but you know, we should be allowed to have treats

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Speaker 4: and fun. But with food, it's just been normalized into

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Speaker 4: everything we eat, which I think is really the problem.

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Speaker 1: I laugh about the alcohol, but I've actually tried to

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Speaker 1: cut that down to you to just like a couple

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Speaker 1: of glasses of wine, because I know that's you know,

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Speaker 1: gonna kill me too, for everything's killing Kelly. This is

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Speaker 1: such an interesting conversation. We've learned so much from you,

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Speaker 1: so I really appreciate you taking the time for joining

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Speaker 1: us and enlightening us.

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Speaker 2: So thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Lisa those Calie Means, founder of truemed. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that was a fascinating conversation. I hope you guys enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot about health recently, just trying

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Speaker 1: to be healthier to the best of my ability.

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Speaker 2: I have found him fascinating