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Speaker 1: Welcome to Danielle with the Stars.

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Speaker 2: I am Danielle Fischl, a TV director, podcaster, forever topanga,

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Speaker 2: and a mom of two.

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Speaker 1: But nowadays I am an aspiring.

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Speaker 2: Ballroom dancer competing on the thirty fourth season of Dancing

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Speaker 2: with the Stars, and all the while, I am continuing

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Speaker 2: to record a podcast forever immortalizing my attempt to be

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five Len Goodman Mirror Ball Trophy winner.

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Speaker 2: And every week I am podcasting for a leg up

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Speaker 2: through a bruised leg up by talking to pros, former contestants,

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Speaker 2: and even some of my peers, accepting any and all

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Speaker 2: advice in hopes that my national TV dream of a

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Speaker 2: perfect score could soon come true. And today I am

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Speaker 2: being spoiled with expertise because my guest is a fan

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Speaker 2: favorite Dancing with the Stars superstar who joined the show

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Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, later becoming the first black female pro

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Speaker 2: dancer in the show's history. She began on Troop, then

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Speaker 2: just a year later, was partnered with figure skater Johnny Weir,

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Speaker 2: a celebrity she took all the way to the semifinals,

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Speaker 2: but since then she has ridden a bit of a

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Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars roller Coaster, paired with Karate Kidd

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Speaker 2: and Cobra Kai star Martin Cove, TV actor Daniel Durant,

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Speaker 2: former NFL player Adrian Peterson, Legacy Hollywood named Eric Roberts,

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Speaker 2: and then this season she was with a teddy bear

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Speaker 2: who was eliminated in week two, the ray of Light

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Speaker 2: known as Baron Davis. I think it's safe to say

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Speaker 2: she has not had it easy, but yet through it all,

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Speaker 2: her star has shown brighter than ever. Her infectious smile

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Speaker 2: and undeniable talent has stood out to everyone who watches,

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Speaker 2: and now I get the chance to know her on

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Speaker 2: a deeper level while also picking her brain about my

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Speaker 2: own journey. Please welcome to Danielle with the Stars. A

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Speaker 2: total pro, a trooper, and someone who can make anyone shine.

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Speaker 2: It's brit Stewart.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Hello, you're the Queen of introductions. Can

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Speaker 1: you just come with me everywhere?

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Speaker 2: I will anywhere you want to go. Just let me

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Speaker 2: walk in. Before you give a little intro, I'll shorten it.

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Speaker 2: I'll make it a little tighter, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if I could just have that in like a

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Speaker 1: ball of a daily affirmation, I'll let you keep the paper.

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Speaker 1: I am so happy you agreed to do this podcast.

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Speaker 2: I have been trying to have you as a guest

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Speaker 2: literally since day one of the podcast.

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Speaker 1: You were at the very top of my list. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be here, and I know I'm

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Speaker 1: just excited to talk to you. You're so sweet and

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Speaker 1: interacting with you at the rehearsal studio and everything. It's

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Speaker 1: just I'm excited to go on a deeper level. Yes,

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Speaker 1: me too.

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Speaker 2: I wish we were here talking just because we were

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Speaker 2: still both rehearsing together. In no universe did I anticipate

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Speaker 2: that we would be sitting down for this podcast after

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Speaker 2: you and Baron had been eliminated, just during week two.

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Speaker 1: It was absolutely flabbergasting to me.

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Speaker 2: Was it as shocking to you as it was to

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Speaker 2: I think everyone else?

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Speaker 1: It actually was? And I try to say that without

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Speaker 1: any ego involved, But I feel like if you're a

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Speaker 1: fan of the show, if you are, if you've watched

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Speaker 1: it for you know, it's been on air for twenty years, yes,

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Speaker 1: if you watch it, and then of course being part

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Speaker 1: feeling of who's going to go home or you have

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Speaker 1: like a few options and I really I didn't think

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Speaker 1: it was going to be difficult because this year is

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Speaker 1: the cast is I don't know if we've ever had

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Speaker 1: my mind, I was like, if I can get Baron

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Speaker 1: to week three, even week four, people are going to

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Speaker 1: fall exactly him. Yes he does. He has so much charisma,

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Speaker 1: his personality, his smile, his sense of humor, and so

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Speaker 2: And really, yeah, it's just I was I was already

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Speaker 1: Oh, you're one of my We're you're one of my people.

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Speaker 2: And from that moment on, every time I knew he

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Speaker 1: We did our first show and tell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we together, and that was such a special moment,

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Speaker 2: and I was so I had no idea what to expect.

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Speaker 2: And you the work you put in with him, and

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Speaker 1: You can't touch this, and he just came alive. I. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think he's just such a special person and it

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Speaker 2: is not at all surprising to me that the two

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Speaker 2: it feels Barren and I connected?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Yes. You know what I love about Baron is

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Speaker 2: To see the amount of support online? Yes, it did,

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Speaker 2: because there is quite a swell of justice for Baron.

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Speaker 1: There is a swell. And I know it doesn't I

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Speaker 1: know it doesn't make it better, right, but I wanted

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Speaker 1: It's not that's not typical. You know. Even though he

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Speaker 2: Totally, which is a huge deal, and people saw in

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Speaker 1: So it does. It feels like a robbery.

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Speaker 2: The America, Canada, the world was cut short of being

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Speaker 2: able to know the Baron we know is just right

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Speaker 2: below that surface. And it's interesting that people were able

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Speaker 2: where were the vote?

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Speaker 1: I know, Wow, it's so frustrating. It is what it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you may not know exactly the why

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Speaker 2: what it's supposed to be. So that's I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: Life looking forward.

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Speaker 2: Had you guys continued, what were some of the things

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Speaker 1: Do you want to share any of that? Actually?

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Speaker 2: Would love great because I'm dying to know. I want

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Speaker 2: to know what your vision was for him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so something super simple. We were supposed to have

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Speaker 1: for I had a lot of ideas for Baron. Actually,

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Speaker 2: Any any chance we could get you guys to still

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Speaker 1: I feel like that dedication week everyone needs that. Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Let's do what we can do. I called him yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I called him yesterday. I wanted to check in. He

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Speaker 1: And I was like, I mean, you know, you know

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Speaker 1: what that's actually breaking my heart. Maybe the most is

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Speaker 2: He he.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he misses it. And I don't think people realize

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Speaker 1: Let me know how I can help you. Let me

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Speaker 1: know what I can do. I want to we need

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Speaker 2: I can't believe how many things in your life are

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Speaker 1: Yes.

435
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: Can you imagine being a professional dancer who's involved in

436
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 2: a show where you're going to try to win a

437
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 2: mirror ball by teaching a celebrity who most of the

438
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: time knows very little about dance, and then being like,

439
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: I only want to do it for like a couple

440
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 2: of weeks.

441
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: Can you give me?

442
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: I mean, that's ah, that's a crazy rumor.

443
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 1: It is crazy. But Emma is the host, she's one

444
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 1: of the co hosts of the tour on it, and

445
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: then I'm dance captain when we go on tour, But

446
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: my work doesn't really start until we get out.

447
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 2: Until you get out on the road, but at least

448
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: you know where the impetus for that rumor started. You

449
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: guys have special names and roles attached to the tour

450
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: that maybe other people do not have, and so.

451
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: There was a little bit of an assumption made.

452
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: But so, okay, you do not actually have a hand

453
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 2: in the choreography until you're in the actual tour and

454
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: things flourish on their own, collaboratively exactly, okay. Uh. And

455
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: so with your origin on Dancing with the Stars, producers

456
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 2: saw you in this wonderful world of Disney show, right

457
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: and that rehearsal okay, and they ask you to audition

458
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: for Troop. You get the job, but you didn't have

459
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: any experience.

460
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 1: In ballroom dancing, right, okay.

461
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: And so this is an important question for some of us,

462
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 2: very relevant to me at least.

463
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: How did you get so good so fast? And can

464
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: I have it? You know what? It's First of all,

465
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 1: I feel like I was always meant to do this

466
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: style of dance because it didn't come I don't want

467
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: to it didn't come easy, but I loved it right away.

468
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 1: I also feel like, you know, I was on True.

469
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: I was on True for five seasons actually, okay, And

470
00:25:54,200 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: so it gave me time to become a student. So

471
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: as I was doing true my first season, I was

472
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: also training simultaneously, okay, And then when I got into

473
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: the world and learned more about the ballroom world, I

474
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: was like, this is completely different from the type of

475
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: dance and the community that I grew up in, and

476
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: I really wanted to not only show respect to the

477
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: art form, to the dance style, but to also my peers.

478
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 1: So I ended up competing in pro am as well

479
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: to really like, not for the not for the accolade,

480
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: not for anything other to dive deeper into the culture

481
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 1: of ballroom because it is it is unique all on

482
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 1: its own. Yeah, it's completely different than how I was

483
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: raised in the dance world.

484
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: Right, That's what Mandy was saying too. Mandy was saying,

485
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how well versed you are in contemporary

486
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 2: or modern or jazz or hip hop, it does not matter.

487
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: It's a totally different thing. It's wild. Yeah, it's wild.

488
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: I actually love teaching kids that have ballet, contemporary, jazz,

489
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: tap hip hop training to do ballroom because I know

490
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: exactly how it feels. And sometimes I'll look at them

491
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: and I'll say, I know this feels crazy, Yeah, I

492
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,239
Speaker 1: know this is this is this is exactly opposite from

493
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: what your ballet teacher is teaching you right now. But

494
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: this is why, this is how we initiate a movement

495
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: like this in ballroom. Yeah, I kind of geek out

496
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: on it a little bit. I love that. I love

497
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: that you geek out on it. I feel like Pasha

498
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: geeks out on it too. Oh. I think Pasha geeks

499
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: out more than I do.

500
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, I was just saying I feel

501
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: like Pasha's definitely geeking out, and I'm like, okay, you

502
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 2: really love this.

503
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: He loves it. Yeah. I love Pasha's dedication. He's always practicing,

504
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: always perfecting, always, and I feel like you guys are

505
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: a very good match. We are, We are a very

506
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: good match.

507
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: He's been saying in interviews that he thought he was

508
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: a perfectionist until he met me, and now he feels

509
00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: like he can let go of that title.

510
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: I was like, no, no, no, no, definitely not.

511
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: What did it mean then for you when you in

512
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: twenty twenty were asked to become the first black female

513
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 2: pro on Dancing with the Stars, What did it mean

514
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 2: to you?

515
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: Oh? My goodness, Well, it was very overwhelming and it

516
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: was also unexpected, so I did five seasons on Troop

517
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: and the season before season twenty eight he actually got

518
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: rid of the Troop. And right before that season, I

519
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: had re auditioned to become a pro, and I remember

520
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: at the time, the showrunner different than Conrad called me,

521
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: and he was straight up from the beginning. He's like,

522
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to sugarcoat anything. This call is not

523
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 1: going to be good. Oh man, yeah, I know he was.

524
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: He basically said, we were very impressed with your audition,

525
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: we love you, but we're not going to promote you

526
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: to be a pro. And then on top of that,

527
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: we're getting rid of Troop this season, so out of

528
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: the job.

529
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, not only do you not get the job you want,

530
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: but the job you have you don't have it exactly.

531
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: And so then I, just like any industry dancer does,

532
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: or I should say, anyone in this industry, does you Okay,

533
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: you feel what you pi it and you pivot immediately.

534
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what I did. I just did. I

535
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: just called my agent.

536
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,959
Speaker 2: I was like, get me look exactly exactly, tell us

537
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: what find me.

538
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: Some work exactly. And the work that I did in

539
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,719
Speaker 1: that year actually ended up being really great. It was

540
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: and I think it all prepared me to become a pro.

541
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: And I'm actually very grateful for that time off because

542
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: I think if I would have become a pro immediately

543
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: after Troop, I would have been too close to it.

544
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: I would have been like, I don't know. It gave

545
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: me a little bit of a fresh perspective and just

546
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: a breath.

547
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, a breath of Yeah, a nice little breath away

548
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: from something which is also something you do and dance.

549
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you have to. Times you just have to

550
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: not practice, just need to. I call it marination. You

551
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: need to let it marinate and get some sleep sometimes. Yeah,

552
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: not always, not if you're just being lazy. Yeah, there's

553
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: a different there's a big difference. Yeah, yeah, yeah, difference.

554
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: So and then, of course in twenty twenty the world

555
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: shut down, so you know, I was also like we

556
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: were still isolated when I when I learned that I

557
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: was going to become a pown, did you learn that

558
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: you were going to become op?

559
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: This is now I want to hear the flip side,

560
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: because you had the conversation that started off with guess what,

561
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: this is bad news. I'm just warning you now it's

562
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: going to be a bad conversation. What was the flip

563
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: side of that conversation.

564
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: So Dina texted me and she just simply asked, can

565
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: you can you do a video call at this time?

566
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, okay, yeah, I guess of

567
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: course sure. I mean even if I wasn't in isolation,

568
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: I would have dropped everything too, Like when Dina text you,

569
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: when this.

570
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: Is Dina Cats for those of you who may not know,

571
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: Dina CAATs executive producer, casting, really very very very high

572
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: up head honcho, lots of decisions being made by Dina exactly.

573
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: And so I said yes, anytime, whatever. Yeah. So then

574
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: we get onto a zoom and she tells me that

575
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: I'm becoming a pro and I actually I was like,

576
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: I think I was in such shock. I was almost

577
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: emotionless because I was like just say yes, yeah, that

578
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: just happy and yes, yes. And then I called my mom.

579
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I lost it when I called my mom.

580
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: Of course I lost it. Yeah, And I was just

581
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: filled with so much gratitude. And then after that, I

582
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, I'm not only is you know,

583
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: this dream of mine coming true, but now I'm becoming

584
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, this representation that has not existed until now

585
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: tell you and you know it's the representation has been

586
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: in the celebrity Partners, but never as a dancer, which

587
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: is so important. And it was very overwhelming, very exciting.

588
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: And then when I got there for the premiere, I

589
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: had a little baby like not freak out, but I

590
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,239
Speaker 1: felt very overwhelmed, and I felt very much like I

591
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: was putting a ton of pressure on myself to be

592
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: perfect and to be right. Now. I have to be

593
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: at all. Now, I have to be at Allah. And

594
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: that season, I'm so grateful I was partnered with Johnny

595
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: that season. Johnny is so there is no other human

596
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: in this world that is like Johnny Weir, and he

597
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: taught me so much in that season. I always led

598
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: with authenticity, but sometimes in moments of fear or moments

599
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: of anxiety, I would I would just little myself, make

600
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: myself small. And I just learned in that moment that

601
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: all I have to do is show up as myself

602
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: and that would be the perfect representation because that's all

603
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: I have, is me. I don't need to do anything

604
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: other than just show up and be me exactly. And

605
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: so wonderful that you had a partner that was able

606
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: to recognize you doing it and to be able to

607
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: point it out to you and say, don't do that.

608
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: You know again, such a wonderful like the things that

609
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: happened that have happened for you in your life, Like

610
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: what a perfect first partner for you, What a gift. Yes,

611
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: probably a decision made by Dina, by the way, Yes

612
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: it was.

613
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, he was like, just let your bruce, your

614
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: inner bruce fly, everybody, let your inner bruce out. Fine,

615
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: let your inner bruce go. I love it.

616
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: I ask every guest this because I know that there

617
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: are sort of two camps on the subject. One that is,

618
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: one camp is totally fine with celebrities coming in having

619
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: previous dance experience, and then the other camp, who think

620
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: the premise of the show should be to teach newbies.

621
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: Where do you fall on the subject. It is so interesting.

622
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, ooh, this is actually a little

623
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: bit difficult for me because I've actually, outside of Johnny, who,

624
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 1: even though he's a figure skater, never took a dance class,

625
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: I've actually never had a partner with previous dance experiences.

626
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: So I come from that side of it. I see

627
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: my peers with partners with dance experience, and they're able

628
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: to have like a lot of creative freedom. I'll say, yeah,

629
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: so that is I could see some people on one

630
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: side saying, Okay, like you can like really produce some things.

631
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: There's not as many like limitations or what have you.

632
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: But I still go back in the heart of the

633
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: show is teaching someone how to dance? Yeah, and is

634
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: teaching someone the very beginning and what that journey is like,

635
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: you know, and some you know, if you go to

636
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: past season, some of those people that won that had

637
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: zero dance experience, Oh my gosh, how rewarding, I know,

638
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: how incredible to see them from their first days of

639
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: rehearsals and then at the finale doing their freestyle like

640
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: a proper dancer. Right, That is the heart of the show.

641
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: And I almost think it's like it's a little bit

642
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: more rewarding. Yeah in my eyes. Yeah, you're right. And

643
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: and certainly.

644
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: For you as the pro to be able to see

645
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: like I did that you know, of course the celebrity

646
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: had to put in the work, but like you were

647
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: able to figure out how to communicate to somebody in

648
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: a language they do not speak, to become fluent.

649
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: Yes, in this language in a short amount of time

650
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: and zero time, zero time.

651
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I'm talking about how crazy the

652
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: schedule is. Four hours a day is just not enough

653
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: time to really get everything across. I mean, Pasha talks

654
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: a lot about teaching and layers. You know, like the

655
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: first day is really just you are in your brain

656
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: one hundred percent of the time making sure you can

657
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: try to remember the steps. That's day one goal, Day

658
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: one goal. Can you just remember the steps? And then

659
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: after that it's like, Okay, that's honestly going to end

660
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: up only being worth about ten percent.

661
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: Of this whole thing.

662
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: If that's all we got, we're not going to have much,

663
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: and that's crazy. So that you're like, now I gotta

664
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 2: start doing the steps bigger, wider, grander, more this, and now.

665
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: I got a twist while I'm doing them, and now

666
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: I gotta perform while I'm doing it.

667
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: Now I have to be in my heart and not

668
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: in my head. The fact that you guys are able

669
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: to do it with total dumb dums like myself. I

670
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: do not know how you do what you do, but

671
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: I will say my biggest takeaway so far, and only

672
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: however many weeks I've been a part of the show

673
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: is how truly remarkable.

674
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: You guys are you are. You are the stars of

675
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: Dancing with the.

676
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 2: Stars, and you keep spirits high and you are patient

677
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: and you don't I mean, I would be losing my

678
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: marbles if I would be losing my marbles.

679
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys do it, but you're incredible.

680
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I will say I was so pleasantly surprised

681
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: that first time we did a show and tell with you, Okay,

682
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: I mean I thought you blew me away. Really, yes,

683
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: thank you. Yes, I would say, like, just just trust

684
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: in your process because it's it's paying off, like it

685
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: is to me to watch you go out on the

686
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: ballroom floor and do what you do with no previous

687
00:37:55,040 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: experience is absolutely remarkable, Like, thank you. I remember that

688
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: first show and Tell. I looked at you and I

689
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: was like, you are the epitome of this show, and

690
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: you gave all of us a very nice pep talk.

691
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: It was, And I went home and I specifically told

692
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 2: my husband, I said, britt.

693
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: Just gave us the nicest talk.

694
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: You know, because every we all pretty much nailed that

695
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 2: first Show and Tell.

696
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: We were all nervous.

697
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: We had never done this before we're about ready to

698
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: show our dances for the first time. And even though,

699
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: of course were there are things we all could have

700
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: done better or little things that were missed. Sure, but

701
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: nobody fell apart, which is kind of the expectation is like,

702
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: let's do this so that you get your fall apart

703
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 2: moment now, and nobody really fell apart. And then we

704
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: were all just looking at each other like we just

705
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: did that. And at the end of it, you were like,

706
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: I just have to give I have to tell you,

707
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 2: you guys are what the heart of.

708
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: This show is.

709
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: And it meant a lot to us who were in

710
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: that room, and so thank you. It's just it goes

711
00:38:52,719 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 2: to show what a special person you are. So in

712
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: season thirty one, let's talk about the fact that you

713
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 2: were paired with actor Daniel Durant. You place fifth, your

714
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: best showing to date. But most importantly, did you ever

715
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: say I will never have a showmance on Dancing.

716
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: With the Stars And did you actually believe that? I

717
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: actually believe you did. Yes, I you know. And no

718
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: judgment too, I mean I can't obviously I can't judge

719
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: because I had a show. We know that judgment I mean, yeah,

720
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: but I just you know, I think also starting in

721
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: the industry at such a young age, at fifteen, I

722
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: think I saw a lot of showmances, right, and I

723
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: kind of know that that's not for me. That's not

724
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: for me. I like to keep my work and my

725
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: love separate totally. And funny with Daniel, he's the same way,

726
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: because you know, you can have an intimate scene or

727
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: a love scene, or a character or whatever, but then

728
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: you go home and you that was your character. You

729
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: left that at home totally, or you left that at

730
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: the studio, whatever it is. And so we both had

731
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 1: the same mindset entering into work.

732
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 2: Right, this is a business. It's a business, and we're

733
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 2: gonna be friends. Of course we have to have chemistry, yes,

734
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: but that's where it ends.

735
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: Yes, And I knew we had chemistry. We both knew

736
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: that we had chemistry from the beginning. But it wasn't

737
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't really like, it wasn't romantic romantic, it wasn't

738
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: like intimate in that sort of way. And it's so

739
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: funny the way Daniel says it is hilarious, Like American

740
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: sign language is extremely expressive and sometimes like if I

741
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: was to interpret what he was signing, it'd be like, oh,

742
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: I did it. I was not attracted to her at all.

743
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: I didn't even I didn't even I didn't even never

744
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: even that. I'm like, whoa easy settle down, settle down,

745
00:40:53,480 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: you can still appreciate, yes, exactly. But we really just

746
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: in that process we became teammates. First, like we just

747
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: had this goal and we just we we wanted to

748
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: have a great team have fun together. And you know,

749
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm way more competitive than he is, but he was

750
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: still very competitive. Yeah, and then we actually became legitimately

751
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: friends and we would go get ivs and with his interpreter,

752
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: we were like to do, yes, we don't. Who doesn't

753
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: go get IV's with their friends anyone not in LA.

754
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: That sounds very weird to anyone not here, but for us.

755
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: We did a cold plunge contrast therapy IV's red light.

756
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: I said, you know, a casual friend date. And then

757
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: we got eliminated and we didn't see each other, and

758
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: we started texting, and then one day he was it

759
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: was actually in his trailer. He was just it was

760
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: it was after we got eliminated and his interpreter stepped

761
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: out and he was like staring at me. And I

762
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: looked at him and I was like, why are you

763
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: looking at me like that? And all he signed was

764
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: I think you know exactly why I'm looking at you,

765
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: and I said I do and same but and then

766
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: and then we were like and I was like, I

767
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: gotta go figure out my life. And then we went

768
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: to dinner and then nothing happened. And then I think

769
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: both of us were so hesitant because we had been

770
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: with each other every single day. Dancing with the Stars

771
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: is extremely intense. I don't know if we thought it was.

772
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: Real right, You're like, was that because we were kind

773
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: of forced to be in a room together for that

774
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 2: many hours?

775
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: Or is this legitimate? Will it survive outside of the

776
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: pressure cooker? Yes? And then he the first time he

777
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: kissed me, he asked, oh so sweet, like can I

778
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: kiss you? And then we kiss and both of us

779
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: were like this.

780
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: Yes, oh so well, you guys, I mean, you've started

781
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: the falling in love process on the show, but you

782
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: didn't technically fall in love on the show. It's not

783
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: like the cameras were around and you were like, pretend

784
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: we're just friends. You guys really were just partners with

785
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 2: the same goal in mind. Who became legitimate friends, and

786
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: then after you were eliminated, actually fell in love. Yeah,

787
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: oh gosh, I love your love stories so much. For

788
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 2: your wedding, were people intimidated to get on the dance floor?

789
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: I thought about that the minute. The minute I knew

790
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: you were getting married.

791
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: I was like, how do normal people dance at a wedding?

792
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: For incredible dancers?

793
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: I would, I'd be like, I'm just gonna set this

794
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: one out, you know, It's so funny. It was actually

795
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: our family and friends that weren't dancers that were dancing

796
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: the most. Wow, which is hilarious. That's great. I also

797
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: think Daniel and I for our first dance, we didn't

798
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: do anything like choreographed or anything. We just slow danced.

799
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: We just went out there, and so I think we

800
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: set the tone pretty like this is gonna be chill.

801
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: It's going to be We're not gonna put on a

802
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: whole thing. No.

803
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: A lot of the fans of the show feel like

804
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: some of the pros get regularly paired with celebrities that

805
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 2: maybe on the outside, don't seem as though they're gonna

806
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: go as far. Do you feel like the sharing of

807
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 2: celebrity talent is generally fair or how It's such a

808
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: hard question to ask because I know the casting process

809
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 2: has so many factors that go into it. But when

810
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: you hear fans say like, come on, how come some

811
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: people seem to get ringers year after year and other

812
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: people seem to get whatever the opposite of a ringer

813
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 2: is here after you?

814
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that. I do think that

815
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: when pairing comes that Honestly, that's kind of a hard question.

816
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 1: But I do think, you know, when parings do happen,

817
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: I think everything is considered. I can only speak for myself,

818
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: and I don't know if I've I don't actually I know,

819
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: I don't think I've had a ringer, and I do

820
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: feel like I want that chance, you know, I don't

821
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: know if I've had that chance. I do think Baron

822
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: could have been a dark horse. Again, if we he

823
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: could have potentially been a dark horse, But again, it

824
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: was very very competitive. I would actually argue that Daniel

825
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: was a bit of a dark horse. They are, you know,

826
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: if we're he had an incredible story, but you know,

827
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: he the challenge of dancing when you're deaf can be

828
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: and for Daniel, he's profoundly deaf, so deaf is very

829
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: vast in what the community is. You can be like doctory.

830
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: It's a huge spectrum and Daniel's profoundly deaf. So he

831
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 1: People don't realize how hard he worked on the show

832
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: because he had to learn everything. He had to learn

833
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: the choreography, but then he had to learn the rhythm.

834
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: He had to memorize when something was fast and when

835
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: something was slow. Wow, I didn't even think about any

836
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: of that stuff. Yeah, but he does have this like

837
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: very I always call it an internal metronome that for

838
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: some reason, he shocked me every single week. But you know,

839
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: he in his season he came on. If we're talking

840
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: about just social media, just numbers, yeah, he came onto

841
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: that season which was stacked with Charlie Demilio, Wayne Brady,

842
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: Chandela has a huge social social media following. I know

843
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: I'm missing some other people, Oh Jordan's sparks, like Selma Blair.

844
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: He came in with fifty thousand Instagram followers and we

845
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: made it fifth to fifth place, so he I would

846
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: actually consider Daniel to be a underdog for horse for sure,

847
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't. I don't know if I have

848
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: gotten a ringer yet. Actually I know you have not

849
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: gotten a ring and you're ready for them. My gosh,

850
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm so ready. Yeah, I'm so ready. Yeah, I'm ready

851
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: for you to have that too.

852
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 2: I'm ready for you to be like you know what,

853
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: I actually like having somebody with a little dance experience.

854
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 2: It's uh feels pretty good. I mean, maybe I'd just

855
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: like to pitch that maybe for season thirty five you

856
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 2: get like Usher.

857
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's crazy. One of my friends

858
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: had a dream that I would that I was going

859
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: to be paired with Usher, And that's really weird that

860
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: you just said that. It's that's wild. I don't think

861
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: Esher would ever do the show, but maybe maybe what

862
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: I bet I don't know him. I bet you everybody

863
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: we are calling baron the minute we leave here. One

864
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 1: to figure out when he can get in a rehearsal

865
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: space with you for this dedication week dance that I'm

866
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Speaker 1: gonna somehow facilitate, and two to see if he knows Usher.

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Speaker 1: Also side note, do you know.

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Speaker 2: Okay I am going to ask for I'm not asking

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Speaker 2: for any sort of leg up here because all of

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Speaker 2: my competition could listen to this podcast, But if you

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Speaker 2: had to reveal the biggest strategy that you have learned

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Speaker 2: over the last six seasons of Dancing with the Stars,

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Speaker 2: what would it.

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Speaker 1: Be, I would actually putting dancing scores, you know, social

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Speaker 1: media trends, all of that aside. I think it's actually

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Speaker 1: the connection with your partner. I think if you can

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Speaker 1: find that that connection, which I believe you and Pasha have.

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Speaker 1: You guys, you have an amazing camaraderie with each other

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Speaker 1: yea and support and it's also very cute to see.

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Speaker 2: Like.

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Speaker 1: Danny and Dylan and the four of you. And if

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Speaker 1: you can find that essence, I feel like that people

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Speaker 1: fall in love with that, people want to root for

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Speaker 1: that as well. You know, talking from experience, you know,

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Speaker 1: my best seasons have been with people that I also

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Speaker 1: have a big connection with Johnny Johnny Daniel and that

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Speaker 1: grew within the show. Yeah, so that would be my

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Speaker 1: one big advice to you, which I think that you're

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Speaker 1: already doing. I feel like again I said it you.

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Speaker 1: I think casting you is incredible for the show, and

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Speaker 1: you're pleasantly surprising on the dance floor. You're dynamic, and

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Speaker 1: what's so exciting about you is you're going to see

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Speaker 1: your growth.

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Speaker 2: I hope, so I really, I desperately need to start

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Speaker 2: getting better every week. And you know, we're doing such

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Speaker 2: drastically style different styles of dance that it's hard to go.

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Speaker 2: You know, well, if maybe if I were to do

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Speaker 2: a tango again in week four, I'd be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: look at the difference in tango week one versus week four.

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Speaker 2: But I'm struggling to be like, you know, they're all

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Speaker 2: so different. But I do think it'll start, It'll start

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Speaker 2: to be more apparent that I'm growing and learning.

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Speaker 1: So so close to it. Yeah, you're staring at yourself

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Speaker 1: for four hours as your day.

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Speaker 2: I don't even like to look at myself for two minutes,

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Speaker 2: much less for four hours.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, welcome to a dancer's brain. This is

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Speaker 1: why we have so many problems.

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Speaker 2: No, seriously, Like every now and then, Pasha's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: let's do it toward the mirror, and.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, really do we have to? No? Please, don't know.

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Speaker 1: But imagine our audience. They get to see you once

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Speaker 1: a week, I know, and so they you know, you're

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Speaker 1: so close to it. Yeah, So the audience's perspective is

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Speaker 1: we're seeing your like major big shifts each week. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I appreciate your advice also because I feel

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Speaker 2: like it's so perfect coming from you, because you are

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Speaker 2: such a person who, as you have said, and it's

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Speaker 2: very clear to anybody who meets you, you really do

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Speaker 2: truly lead with authenticity and that your advice about the

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Speaker 2: connection with your partner is something you can't fake. It's

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Speaker 2: something you have, it's some thing you nurture, it's something

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Speaker 2: if you have it, you use it to your advantage,

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Speaker 2: and it is it's such a It's about connecting authentically

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Speaker 2: with the other person in the room with you, who

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Speaker 2: you're creating with, and your storytelling with you know, it's

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Speaker 2: I've also I've been so surprised by how much dance

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Speaker 2: is just a story telling element. I had never thought

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Speaker 2: of in this in the entertainment industry, and now that

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Speaker 2: I get to be a part of it, it's such

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Speaker 2: a fun new thing to play with. And I know,

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Speaker 2: I already know I'm going to be not just a

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Speaker 2: better dancer at the end of this, but I really

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Speaker 2: believe I'm going to be a better person at the

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Speaker 2: end of this. I already am, and so much of

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Speaker 2: that has been because of you and your advice and

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00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 2: getting to know you, and I am so grateful that

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Speaker 2: you came and spent your time with me on this

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Speaker 2: podcast today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Brit Oh, my goodness, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I think you're such a ray of light like you

942
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Speaker 1: just beam and so I'm so happy that I'm here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I hope this is this is not the end of

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Speaker 2: our journey. I can't wait to spend more time with you.

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Speaker 2: Yes please, Okay, thank you all for listening to this

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Speaker 2: episode of Danielle with the Stars. I'll see you next time.

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Speaker 2: Danielle with the Stars produced and hosted by Danielle Fischel.

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Speaker 2: Executive producers Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman, Executive in charge

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Speaker 2: of production, Danielle Romo, producer, editor and engineer Tara Sudbosch.

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Speaker 1: Theme song by Justin Siegel. Follow us on Instagram at

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