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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Ryan Clark joined us on loan from the

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Speaker 1: Mother's Ship. Ryan, we've been talking about name, image and likeness.

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Speaker 1: Where are we headed with us in college football? I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just a legal way of cheating. This is not

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Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden, you know, everybody's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's used as a legal recruiting tool. It's always been

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Speaker 1: illegal recruiting tool. This is not this is not a

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Speaker 1: new thing. You know. Now they could just do it publicly,

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Speaker 1: and now the rich will continue to get richards because

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Speaker 1: the teams that were paying the people before, now they

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Speaker 1: could pay them, you know, over the table or on

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Speaker 1: top of the table and get these kids to come

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Speaker 1: to school. And I think this is what happens when

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Speaker 1: Mark Emritt and the NC double A wants to wash

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Speaker 1: their hands of actual issues, or wants to wash their

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Speaker 1: hands of actually helping these young players out and getting

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Speaker 1: to a point where a name, image and likeness wasn't

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Speaker 1: the wild wild West, but there were some rules and

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Speaker 1: some restrictions and some regulations. And because they refused to

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Speaker 1: do that, that's why we found our find ourselves here.

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Speaker 1: What's your best recruiting story that you heard that somebody

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Speaker 1: got or offered. Um. You know, like, I don't really listen.

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Speaker 1: To be honest, I've heard a lot of recruiting stories

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Speaker 1: from dudes in the locker rooms and and different things

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Speaker 1: like that, But I don't really have a best recruit story.

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Speaker 1: You know that those are for other people to tell.

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Speaker 1: You know, I drove a Pink S ten until I graduated.

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Speaker 1: In my first year in the league, I caught a

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Speaker 1: ride with a teammate, and so I don't have a

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Speaker 1: recruiter story of people offer me any money because I

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Speaker 1: wasn't no good and so that's about all I know.

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Speaker 1: So you wouldn't have cashed in our name, image and likeness, Ryan, Well, well,

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Speaker 1: once I was in school, I certainly would have because

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Speaker 1: I was a good player by that point. Yeah. But

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Speaker 1: but coming into LSU, you were you were not going

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Speaker 1: to be cashing in. Oh no, not at all, not

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Speaker 1: at all, coming in and coming in the LSU. They

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Speaker 1: might have made me pay them to come to the school.

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Speaker 1: With the way, with the way I was being recruited.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've heard of duffel bags or fifty thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars being left. Uh, you know, I know tons of

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Speaker 1: kids who drove better cars than me while I was

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Speaker 1: still in the league. You know, but those those are stories.

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Speaker 1: You close your ears to it. You never tell he's

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Speaker 1: Ryan Clark and the Mothership. Explain to me how DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Hopkins got to this point being suspended for six games. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know how it works. Uh. You know, you go in,

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Speaker 1: you take your performance enhancement test, the test comes in,

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Speaker 1: and you know, they bring you the bad news. They

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Speaker 1: bring you the bad information. Not necessarily sure you know

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Speaker 1: what DeAndre uh indigested or what he or what he took,

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Speaker 1: but it's definitely, you know, right now, it's a bad

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Speaker 1: look for him. It's a bad look for the NFL

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Speaker 1: when when one of your best players, you know, someone

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Speaker 1: of his caliber, you can now put into question his career.

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Speaker 1: Now here's what we know. Julian Ellman also tested positive

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Speaker 1: for performance enhancement drugs, and with his career was over.

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Speaker 1: You know, there were people in my business that said,

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Speaker 1: you know, he should be a Hall of Famer. And

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Speaker 1: so if that's any indication of what happens going forward,

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Speaker 1: I think DeAndre hopkins legacy is fine, but to me,

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Speaker 1: this definitely tarnishes what you have done on the field,

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Speaker 1: and it also puts in question all of your accomplishments. Now,

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins was a first round pick. He's been good

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Speaker 1: for a decade in this league, and so I believe

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Speaker 1: people understand what a talent he is. But I know

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Speaker 1: for any player, especially someone who believes they were doing

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Speaker 1: things the right way, this is the last thing you

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Speaker 1: want on your reservation. But everybody says it's an accident, Ryan, Like,

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Speaker 1: how does how does somebody of DeAndre hopkins stature or

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Speaker 1: even Edelman that you get popped? Like, if you're smart enough,

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Speaker 1: then you know how to sidestep this stuff unless you've

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Speaker 1: been doing it all along. Well, I think I think

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Speaker 1: the biggest thing is, and this is what I do,

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Speaker 1: believe that people believe they're smarter than they are. And

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Speaker 1: you also begin to trust people that you don't, that

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Speaker 1: until you're expecting that if you take a certain thing,

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Speaker 1: then they'll be able to mask it or they'll be

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Speaker 1: able to get you through the tests. And you also

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Speaker 1: listen to people when they tell you this is undetectable.

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Speaker 1: But the bottom line is, man, you do the right

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Speaker 1: things you follow the guidelines and you'll be okay. You know,

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Speaker 1: in thirteen years with always best Clay No, it was

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Speaker 1: always a guy who the biggest, strongest, fastest. No, but

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Speaker 1: go to sleep. And I understanding that. When do you

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Speaker 1: think the Cardinals got an idea that they were gonna

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Speaker 1: be or could possibly be without DeAndre Hopkins and therefore

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Speaker 1: making the trade with Hollywood and the Cardinal The Cardinals

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Speaker 1: knew that before the weekend. Obviously I can't tell you exactly,

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Speaker 1: but they knew before the weekend. Then I treated yesterday

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Speaker 1: that no, it makes sense. You know, I'm sitting back,

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Speaker 1: I'm watching the draft. You know what I'm saying. It's

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Speaker 1: still you know, fifty seventh NFL Draft class. I gotta

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Speaker 1: be a little crown royal, and I'm watching the draft

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Speaker 1: and I said, oh, look at this they draft. You know,

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Speaker 1: they got Hollywood Broun. Hollywood Broun hasn't necessarily been the

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Speaker 1: guy Ravens expected him to beat him last year. He

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Speaker 1: came along a little bit though He's had touchdowns and

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Speaker 1: you give up a first and the third form it

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Speaker 1: was it was kind of uh, it was kind of

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Speaker 1: crazy to me. You know, I was looking at it

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Speaker 1: and didn't quite understand it, and then this news comes

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Speaker 1: out and it makes total sick. And now and we

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Speaker 1: after week seven, you have you two guys that can

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Speaker 1: really play and you hope you're in a position to

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Speaker 1: make a run. What are you doing with Crown Royal

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Speaker 1: besides drinking it? Well, you know what, I'm toasting this listen.

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Speaker 1: It was the fifty seventh NFL Draft. Crown Royal sent

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Speaker 1: our super Bowl packages to you know, all of the

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Speaker 1: different NFL legends and we got an opportunity to bring

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Speaker 1: this class in. You know, these players are embarking on

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Speaker 1: something that a lot of NFL legends which I am

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Speaker 1: not a lot of NFL legends have done, and things

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Speaker 1: that they take it and so it's not only about

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Speaker 1: playing football, but they get an opportunity in their communities.

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Speaker 1: And I think that you know, Crown Royal, who is

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Speaker 1: an official sponsor, wanted to make sure that these guys

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Speaker 1: got a deluxe package, these NFL legends, so they could

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Speaker 1: toast the people that are coming on the journey right

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Speaker 1: behind them. Good to talk to you, Ryan is always

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us managing You are the man, you

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Speaker 1: are a legend. I just want to tell you when

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Speaker 1: people call me to do extra shows on days I

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Speaker 1: don't have work, this is one of the few shows

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Speaker 1: I'm actually excited about. Thank you, Ryan, I'll toast you

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Speaker 1: with some Crown Royal. That's Ryan Clark Mothership Draft Analyst.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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Speaker 1: wishes Miller Junior the third the Hall of Famer on

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Speaker 1: the call for the Mavericks Sons Game one last night,

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Speaker 1: Game two Tomorrow night at ten Eastern on TNT and

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Speaker 1: Reggis Joints. This now, regg Luca goes for forty five.

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Speaker 1: Phoenix got the win. What did you think of their

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Speaker 1: strategy with Luca last night? Well again, and this is

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Speaker 1: the luxury that head coach Monty Williams and the Sounds

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Speaker 1: are going to have in this series. They've got about

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Speaker 1: seven or eight guys that are going to have their

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Speaker 1: turn at guardian Luca. And it was a great performance

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Speaker 1: by Luca forty five points, but he had to struggle

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Speaker 1: and work for those forty fives, and they don't want

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Speaker 1: to give him a steady diet of just one guys.

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Speaker 1: The cal Bridges started off on him, but if you

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Speaker 1: saw in that first quarter, there was Jay Crowder, there

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Speaker 1: was Chris Paul, Landry, Shammon came in, Cameron Johnson. So

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Speaker 1: the Mavericks did not bring the same energy and effort

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Speaker 1: didn't see any of that in Game one. It was

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Speaker 1: almost like they somewhat exhaled after beating Utah and now

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Speaker 1: finally getting into the second round, they're going to have

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Speaker 1: to bring a much better especially defensive effort. They held Utah,

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Speaker 1: the number one scoring team, to ninety nine points in

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Speaker 1: those six games. Phoenix drops one hundred and twenty one

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter. But there was a glimpse of about six

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Speaker 1: to eight minutes of that fourth quarter where the Mavericks

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Speaker 1: And I was watching last night. You know, Luca moves

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Speaker 1: at his own speed, but he also brings the game

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Speaker 1: down to that speed. Chris Paul is somebody that I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's overly athletic, but I think he's overly intelligent.

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Speaker 1: That ability to have angles and find the spots. I

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Speaker 1: still marvel at Chris Paul doing what he does. And

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Speaker 1: I thought that there's some similarities at their ability to

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Speaker 1: to they have to kind of take their game to

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Speaker 1: the you know, up to another pace. Do you understand

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Speaker 1: sixty seven in Luca and one is sixth one in

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul, and both are the masters at plane angles

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Speaker 1: that you alluded to. They don't rush themselves, They're not

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Speaker 1: It's just it's interesting how they go about it in

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Speaker 1: somewhat different ways. They're both great at that high screening role,

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Speaker 1: and they use again they're not overly quick, especially in

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Speaker 1: Luca's case, but he uses his size, his strength at

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Speaker 1: sixty seven and again those angles to be able to

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Speaker 1: get their shots off. But Chris Paul, look, he's going

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Speaker 1: to turn at thirty seven on Thursday, and he is

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Speaker 1: arguably you know, Charles says this all the time, and

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Speaker 1: I have to somewhat agree with that. He's probably the

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Speaker 1: greatest leader certainly in the game today. But he just

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Speaker 1: understands how to play the game of basketball and get

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Speaker 1: the most out of his abilities and his team's abilities.

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Speaker 1: You don't lead the league in assists for five years

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Speaker 1: and be at the top of the mountaintop and at

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Speaker 1: age thirty seven being able to do what he has

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Speaker 1: done in these playoffs. In Game one versus the Pelicans,

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Speaker 1: nineteen points in the fourth, Game three, the same thing,

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Speaker 1: in Game six, goes perfect fourteen for fourteen and eleven

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Speaker 1: of those were jump shots. I mean, at thirty seven,

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Speaker 1: it's just remarkable. Who do you consider a dirtier player

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Speaker 1: or who does the league consider dirtier? Chris Paul or

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green. I wouldn't use dirty on either one of them.

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Speaker 1: I think both of them. You look, they're both not

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Speaker 1: overly athletic and they used They're just smart. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: label either of them dirty, but they're gonna do whatever

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Speaker 1: it takes to win a ball game. I mean see,

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Speaker 1: that's like saying, was John Stockton dirty? Players that played

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Speaker 1: against John Stockton say he was dirty? But to me,

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Speaker 1: John's using his ability to do whatever it took to

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Speaker 1: the last two or three years in my opinion. That's

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Speaker 1: just my opinion. Reggie will be on the call for

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Speaker 1: Maverick Sons. That'll be Game two tomorrow night at ten

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Speaker 1: talk all basketball all the time, but it's more about

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or ever you get your podcast.

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Speaker 1: Sports Emmy's come up in three weeks from now. I

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Speaker 1: think just about three weeks from now. Pay has a

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Speaker 1: question about this. Yes, so we're bringing up probably the

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Speaker 1: whole crew of the back room. Guys, everybody's going down.

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Speaker 1: Well I'm gonna I'm gonna bring everybody to New York

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Speaker 1: and we'll have a dinner together. That's the issue because

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Speaker 1: the Sports Emmys, the event I think begins at seven

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Speaker 1: pm Easter. Yes, the open bar cocktail hour begins at

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Speaker 1: five Easter. It begins when I get there. But does

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Speaker 1: that mean if we go off for a dinner that

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Speaker 1: could be like three to thirty, which is a great

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Speaker 1: time to get a table in New York. And how

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Speaker 1: many drinks some people here have in us slur before

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Speaker 1: we walk into the ceremony. Well, Todd won't have any marve.

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna kick some back? Oh, this is celebration,

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Speaker 1: let's go. Yes, Okay, now we're gonna have I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: of dinner at around four thirty or five o'clock close by,

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Speaker 1: and then we do ninety minutes, so five o'clock six

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Speaker 1: thirty with cocktail hours at seven. No, the cocktailer, I

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Speaker 1: think it's five to seven. What about a post loss,

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Speaker 1: post win dinner. Once we found out where in the

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Speaker 1: schedule we are because we're category two. We could get

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Speaker 1: either buy seven h seven. Yeah, but we have to

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Speaker 1: come back that night to do the show. The next morning,

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Speaker 1: we have to come back from New York. Now, I'm

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Speaker 1: just thinking of getting a party bus, the rock bus. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what could go wrong? Yes? Yes, Seaton. Are we still

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Speaker 1: leaving right away after we win? Or do we only

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Speaker 1: leave right away after we lose? Because I wouldn't mind

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Speaker 1: taking a little bit of a victory lat um, I

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Speaker 1: think let's get out before they go Wait, wait, what happened?

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Speaker 1: Who won? La La Land? Yes? I was Seaton. I

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Speaker 1: think there's a lot of people who where I'd like

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Speaker 1: to stick this award in their face physically and literally. Wow,

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Speaker 1: after the literal literally you're literally gonna put in their face. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know what they have that? What's the dance they

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Speaker 1: do at at wedding receptions where everybody they no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: everybody holds onto each other. No no, no, no. It's

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Speaker 1: on a horror chicken dance. Yeah, something like that where everybody, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you hold onto each other. Oh yeah, couldn't we get

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Speaker 1: everybody at the Sports Emmys to just get in line

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Speaker 1: with us and then we take a victory lap around

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Speaker 1: the building line. Fritzie got it. I'm going to a

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Speaker 1: Jewish ceremony holding hands to the circle. I thought of

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Speaker 1: the horror. You can get up in a chair in

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Speaker 1: the middle of holding the Emmy. I'd be great. Now,

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Speaker 1: and who's given the acceptance speech? Do we do a

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Speaker 1: do you want to do it? Now? You guys, pick

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Speaker 1: a number that person will give this speech? Yes, point,

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Speaker 1: what if you don't tell us I'm not doing it? Okay?

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Speaker 1: So what if you assigned to someone in the moment,

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Speaker 1: so each of us has to be ready? How about this?

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Speaker 1: How about you guys pick a number between one and ten.

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Speaker 1: I don't tell you who won until if we win,

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Speaker 1: then I say, Paulie, go get them. Yeah. See, how

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Speaker 1: about off four of us simultaneously deliver our speeches live

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Speaker 1: in the moment. Boma, Wait, everybody gets to get a

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Speaker 1: see stage. We all just start talking. I want to

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Speaker 1: say that that is it, that's that's the philosophy here.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stand there. I'll hold the Sports Emmy

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Speaker 1: and then I'll just say that, you know, we'd like

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Speaker 1: to give our acceptance speech. It's about time that I

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Speaker 1: got Yeah, we would literally thank everybody. Yes, but you

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Speaker 1: guys could all get together now. Is mclovin going to

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Speaker 1: be on stage if we win, he's sitting with us,

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Speaker 1: amongst us, amongst us. Yes, I think he comes up

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Speaker 1: with us. Okay, let's vote on it. Todd, you say yes, Seaton,

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Speaker 1: Oh no, of course, of course, Marv, Oh for sure, Paulie, yeah, sure, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what if one of us has to sit.

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Speaker 1: They only allow five people on stage. That means one

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Speaker 1: of us has to let me loving up. Oh no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna stop us. Like if if we get

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Speaker 1: that close, they're not stopping us. And that's when you know,

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Speaker 1: if Melissa's start comes out and goes here, you guys

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Speaker 1: got to wrap it up or something, or Ernie Johnson

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Speaker 1: comes out and go, you guys got to get off stage. No,

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna do that. We're gonna be ed man.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we could get him to accept on our behalf.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes, it's gonna be Yeah, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be good. But I think the drinking thing, you gotta

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Speaker 1: get out your hand, your hands on some of these. Okay,

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Speaker 1: do you guys want to go to a dinner before

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Speaker 1: and then we just get to the ceremony. Now, cocktail

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Speaker 1: party is not any fun because then you got to

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Speaker 1: socialize with some people that you probably don't want to

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Speaker 1: socialize with, and you're gonna have an awkward moment with somebody. Guaranteed,

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Speaker 1: at least I will. Yes, I say, early dinner before

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Speaker 1: and then we head out win or lose after, especially

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Speaker 1: if we're getting up with winter. Lose, we celebrate, lose,

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Speaker 1: we sell the party. Yes, Marv, U tuxedos? Sure, okay,

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Speaker 1: Men's Warehouse. We'll be there. Sure wink wink, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: tuxedo like it, Marv. I'm gonna do it this day

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Speaker 1: in sports history, Pauli. Oh, we brought him up. Twenty eleven,

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Speaker 1: Derrick Rose became the youngest MVP at age twenty two

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Speaker 1: years old. Joe Dimagio made his major league debut in

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Speaker 1: nineteen thirty six. He had three hits overrated. What did

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Speaker 1: you learn today, Todd? The Browns admittedly tried to win

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Speaker 1: games and somehow still finish three and thirty six. Connor,

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Speaker 1: you just exude out huge, uh, Marv, we're just getting

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Speaker 1: started with this, nil, Paulie. Bryan Clark didn't get paid

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Speaker 1: to go to Connor,