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Speaker 1: Hawks Sucks Live every Thursday from seven to nine, live

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Speaker 1: Michael Bumpus and Paul Moyer. You're listening to Hawks Live

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Speaker 1: from Looming Field every Thursday at seven o'clock on seven

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Speaker 1: ten ESPN. It's me Michael Bumpus, if my guy Paul Mowyer. Paul,

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Speaker 1: it's been a weird week man. You know, the Hawks

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Speaker 1: played a game that we thought they were gonna win.

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Speaker 1: We're thinking they're gonna get into this four game stretch, boom,

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Speaker 1: get it done, and they stumble. They stumble against the

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Speaker 1: team that we didn't expect them to stumble against. But

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Speaker 1: when you look at that defense, they look at the

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Speaker 1: things that they did, then you look at our offense

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Speaker 1: and the things that they did, it makes sense. But

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Speaker 1: when you say New York Giants, the four and seven

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Speaker 1: New York Giants, you just think the Hawks are gonna

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Speaker 1: take your business and get things done. Tip your cap

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Speaker 1: to the Giants. They did some good things, but I

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Speaker 1: also feel like the offense didn't have their best day.

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Speaker 1: I felt like the defense had a pretty good day.

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Speaker 1: I feel like special teams had a good day. It's

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Speaker 1: been a couple of weeks. Now this offense doesn't look

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Speaker 1: like the offense that we're used to seeing. Your first impression,

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Speaker 1: it's bottom line business. So no one had a good day. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's a team game. We haven't changed, you know, we're

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Speaker 1: then it's gonna talk some people off the ledge on this.

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Speaker 1: Giants had won three games in a row, they were

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Speaker 1: in first place in NSC East. Everybody just looked at

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Speaker 1: the record four and seven and said, okay, they're starting

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks out. They have no shot of beating the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: We knew better. We knew there it was gonna be

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Speaker 1: a very hard game for us to score points. That

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Speaker 1: just the way they play defense. They're not giving up

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Speaker 1: big plays. They're gonna force you to be patient. They

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Speaker 1: talked about it. Shot, they talked about it, you know,

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Speaker 1: Russell talked about it. Sometimes you go in with intentions

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Speaker 1: and to a game it doesn't play out that way.

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Speaker 1: The Giants are actually a good, really well coached football team.

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Speaker 1: They're sound. Also, now they're not turning the ball over.

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Speaker 1: That's four games in a row. I think they have

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Speaker 1: one turnover, you know, Pete talks about it all the time.

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Speaker 1: It was disappointing because it was a game we didn't

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Speaker 1: have to play great to win. We just needed to

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Speaker 1: play smart football, take what they give us. We're out

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Speaker 1: up five nothing. You know, defensive I that we played

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Speaker 1: think we played well. Now four and a half games,

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Speaker 1: we're I think we're now the defense we think we

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Speaker 1: were coming into the season. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: look third quarter. This is why I said no one

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Speaker 1: had a good game year. Up five to nothing, this

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Speaker 1: is a game you have to absolutely outplay their defense.

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Speaker 1: You have to and that means maybe either create some

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Speaker 1: scoring opportunities, turnovers, whatever, you may have to throw a

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Speaker 1: shut out. It happened sometime and we had a lull

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Speaker 1: two drives in a row, the big six yard run

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Speaker 1: which was really poorly played, and that's just fact of life.

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Speaker 1: And then again we have another twenty three yard run

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Speaker 1: that wasn't played very well and the rest is history.

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Speaker 1: It's just too hardness in the NFL try and come

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Speaker 1: from behind double digits. Yeah, and I look at Russell Willson.

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Speaker 1: He threw the ball forty three times. If you too

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Speaker 1: many times, I'm with you. But if you do throw

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Speaker 1: the ball forty three times. I expect more than two

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Speaker 1: hundred sixty three yards in one touchdown. I think that

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Speaker 1: if you are going to go that route and then

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Speaker 1: needs to be more productivity. Now they were down, so

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Speaker 1: you're gonna say, Okay, he was forrest Star Shoddy forced

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Speaker 1: him to throw the football, and then I look at

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Speaker 1: the offensive scheme. Now, Shotty came out today and said

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Speaker 1: they wish they would have made adjustments earlier. I agree

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Speaker 1: on a hundred percent with him, and I respect him

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Speaker 1: from coming out and saying that I'm looking at these

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Speaker 1: concepts Moyer and I'm like, everything is ten fifteen yards

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Speaker 1: down the field. They're playing too high man and these

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Speaker 1: dbs played. I was on Twitter and some guys like Bob,

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Speaker 1: it's not about the dbs. It's all about what the

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Speaker 1: Hawks are doing. Yes, the Hawks contributed to it, but

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Speaker 1: you can't knock what these dvs were doing. They were

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Speaker 1: on these receivers hips and they were doing what you've

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Speaker 1: been asking our defense to do all year, which is

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Speaker 1: re route those linebackers that are great job of rerouting

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Speaker 1: guys and taking Russell's eyes off of them. Now, I

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Speaker 1: felt Russell was focusing on DK to make the big play,

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Speaker 1: and you can't blame him for doing that because they've

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Speaker 1: had a lot of success with Russell locking in on

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Speaker 1: DK and them making the big play. But at some

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Speaker 1: Now there DK is, it's taking a corner and of

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Speaker 1: safety with him. That means they're space elsewhere. So I'm

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Speaker 1: hoping and I think they are the going to look

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Speaker 1: at that film and say, Okay, we need to be

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Speaker 1: able to see what's going on and make adjustments. Quicker

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean you change your game plan, but there's something

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Speaker 1: within your game plan to count on what they're doing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's take what he said and let's dissect out a

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Speaker 1: little bit less read between the lines. So he said,

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Speaker 1: I wish we had adjusted, quicker Man, we all saw

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Speaker 1: what they were doing, right, I mean, they were playing

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Speaker 1: a deep shell defense. They weren't going to give up

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Speaker 1: the big play. They'd only given up twenty four or five,

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Speaker 1: you know, twenty yard plays or more all year. They

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Speaker 1: were one of the best in the league. They'd only

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Speaker 1: given up five plays or forty yards or more all year.

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Speaker 1: They were I think they were top three, and that

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Speaker 1: so we knew that was going to be difficulty. So

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Speaker 1: is that shoddy saying I should have adjusted our our

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Speaker 1: we Russell should have been in his earboard saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: let's let's get the ball out quick, let's let's dump

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Speaker 1: the ball off because I'd read something and I hate

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Speaker 1: doing this where I don't have all the facts that

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Speaker 1: the average time held last week it was like over

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Speaker 1: three seconds. Yeah, MAT's long time. So he's hanging onto

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Speaker 1: the football. So what did you read from what shott

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Speaker 1: he said there? Because you know, every good coach and

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Speaker 1: RUSCOTTI is a good coach. Yeah, we know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: We're ear in the ear you know, hey, we gotta

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Speaker 1: we gotta make some adjustments here. So where'd you hear?

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Speaker 1: I think it's both. I think he's like, look, maybe

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Speaker 1: I should have called different plays. But I also saw

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Speaker 1: some downfield concepts to where the back was leaking out

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Speaker 1: And I felt Russell this fell in love with the

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Speaker 1: big play. That's where he made his money. He throws

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Speaker 1: the best deep ball into game. So why not fall

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Speaker 1: in love with it? So I think Shott He's like, look,

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Speaker 1: maybe I should have called more short game concepts. But

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Speaker 1: within these concepts, I'm calling what I'd say half of

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Speaker 1: the time, there's there's an outlet for Russell, and Russell

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Speaker 1: wasn't looking for the outlet. And is that Russell feeling

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Speaker 1: like he needs to make these big plays for this

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Speaker 1: like because of the play that's being called, I have

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Speaker 1: to go this direction, because because there are players. As

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Speaker 1: an offense, you hear a play call, and when I

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Speaker 1: was at wall Zoo, it was it was a doubles

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Speaker 1: four x doubles four x. I knew, look, I'm running

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Speaker 1: this team to get my guy in the outside open.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna threaten this linebacker, hold this safety. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: go here. Nine times out of ten we went there

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Speaker 1: and it was successful. But there was you coming across

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Speaker 1: some teams who game plan for that, and now that

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Speaker 1: Dig's not gonna be open, you have to go to

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Speaker 1: the check deut. So it's there's a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: going on with his offense. I don't think the line

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Speaker 1: had their greatest game. You had your fourth string right

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Speaker 1: he was out. There's a lot of moving pieces. There's

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Speaker 1: Chris Carson. Why felt to touch the football a bit more?

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Speaker 1: Not like they lost about a lot more twelve to seventeen,

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Speaker 1: not like they were down a lot soum. You gotta recalibrate,

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Speaker 1: And if this game plan doesn't work, how do we

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Speaker 1: adjust off of that? But now my question to you is,

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Speaker 1: So before I get to that, I'm again I want

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Speaker 1: to talk everybody off the ledge. Remember we still have

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Speaker 1: great wide receivers, we still have a really good offensive line.

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Speaker 1: We got a couple of running backs. Now Chris Carson's

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Speaker 1: getting health here that and again I think Chris Carson's

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Speaker 1: top three four running backs in the league. Yeah, really

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Speaker 1: good coaching staff. This is a game of adjustments. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Giants gave us something that was new, and so

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Speaker 1: it's not the players, it's not the coach, it's not

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Speaker 1: the scheme. It is about adjusting. And I think Shaddy

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Speaker 1: find it backside. And there were times where I saw

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Speaker 1: not that they it was going to be a home run.

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Speaker 1: And maybe it wasn't always him, but that's where, okay,

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Speaker 1: wherever his progression is, that's where he needs help from shot.

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Speaker 1: He say, hey, okay, here's what they're doing. What I

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Speaker 1: what would you do? I would say, make the defense move,

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Speaker 1: start doing some things where you stop. Start where instead

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Speaker 1: of running through zone, stop and redirect. You've got him,

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Speaker 1: get them to change direction. And the thing is a

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Speaker 1: pump fake is so big. I mean you pump because look,

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Speaker 1: I'm on my toes, I'm ready to go. I'm feeling

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Speaker 1: the rush is a secondary in line, but I'm feeling it.

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Speaker 1: Do I break on this route? Do I break. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing Russell now just a quick pump fake just

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Speaker 1: to look and then come all the way backside. It

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Speaker 1: always pulls a safety over. You will find mismatch, you'll

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Speaker 1: find separation there. So that's my part on let me

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Speaker 1: let me go have that. To add to that, I

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Speaker 1: think that Russell needs to get to what can come

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Speaker 1: open first, what can come up, because you can always

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Speaker 1: get to that that post comeback on that post, curl

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Speaker 1: what can come open right now? Versus man, if my

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Speaker 1: guys running out right there, let me take a peek. Now,

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Speaker 1: what does that do? That moves the safeties as well?

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Speaker 1: Then that helps that deep route come open. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. And you remember that one route it

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Speaker 1: was a deep comeback by DK Medcalf. Now that was

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Speaker 1: a long route and it was it was on the

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Speaker 1: offenses left side. Defense is right, and you know, to

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Speaker 1: their cred they played played him tough too, but there

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Speaker 1: was that double moose and not just double moose slant

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Speaker 1: the deep comeback, so defensively real quick. Um, I just

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Speaker 1: this year. And I would even say, We've had fun

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Speaker 1: Any time I phone, Paul, give me a call. Any

428
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Speaker 1: time you need anything, I'm gonna hold you to it.

429
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: I text you tomorrow. Okay, not financial, but anything else

430
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 1: that sounds good. All right, I have a good one too.

431
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Speaker 1: Coming up next, we get to talk to a defensive

432
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Speaker 1: back for the second week in a row, Paul Moyer.

433
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Speaker 1: We get to talk to Ryan Neil right here on

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Speaker 1: Hawks Live Hawks Slide, brought to you by Mac and

435
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Speaker 1: Jack's Brewing Company. Everything Tuesday, from seven to nine, live

436
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 1: on air on seven ten ESPNC. Hey, we're back every

437
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: Thursday right here at seven o'clock on ESPN seven to ten.

438
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 1: It's me and Paul Moyer. It's Paul. How are you doing.

439
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: You're good? I'm good. Look you know me, bring some

440
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: safeties on. I'm a happy man. I'm safety. Speaking of safeties,

441
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: we got the guy, Ryan Neil, Ryan, how you doing,

442
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 1: sir man, I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Thanks for

443
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 1: having me. Hey, that's what was the first off. I

444
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: want to show you love because you're an undrafted free agent.

445
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: I was an undrafted free agent. Morrior was an undrafted

446
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: free agent. We out here, eaton baby. I love seeing

447
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 1: you ball out man. Right, oh right, Well, first of

448
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: all you've been uh so we have I don't know

449
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: if you know Jordan Babineau, but we call him Big

450
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: Play Babs. And Babs was an undrafted free agent as

451
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: well and played eight eight nine years and you know

452
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,719
Speaker 1: he was. He got that calling because all he did

453
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 1: was make plays. And you know here you Ryan, I

454
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: mean you got a big brother. Mike Neil, Right, I mean,

455
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: I'm backer just real quick. You already talks annised him.

456
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: You have more interceptions than he had in his career.

457
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: Did you let him know that yet? I didn't even

458
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: know that, but I still remember the one that he

459
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 1: did grab like it was yesterday. Yeah, now you have

460
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: more more than him. Again, he was a great player.

461
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: Went to Purdue. You an Indiana kid, I'm assuming you

462
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 1: grew up Indiana Purdue as a fan as well. Yeah,

463
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: I was. I was definitely a Purdue fan. Was actually

464
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: hoping to get some love from there, but didn't turn

465
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: out that way. We had to keep it pushing, but yeah,

466
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: I definitely was a produce. Man coming up, I Ryan, Man,

467
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 1: you are from Indiana. You went to Illinois, picked up

468
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: by the Eagles, went down south to Atlanta. Now you're

469
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: in the Northwest. Man, how how do you like the Northwest?

470
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: He's feeling it? Man, The Northwest is a different vibe.

471
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 1: I actually like it. Man. It's just kind of chill

472
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: out here. Everything's kind of chill and as the course

473
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 1: is beautiful, but the vibe is definitely cool. I've never

474
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: been out west like this before, especially you know, in

475
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: this reason, and it's definitely it's definitely been cool. Kind

476
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: of my style. Man, Just slow down, Yeah, this time

477
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: of year I used to. I'm one of the companies

478
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: I worked for about twenty some years ago was in Carmelo, Indiana, UM.

479
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: And she used to go out there a little bit.

480
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 1: But in the weather, sim it gets low colder in

481
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: Indianapolis when you get you know, towards January ferry, but

482
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: some over overcast. But what is it light coming into

483
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: a new city. This is so different with COVID. What

484
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: what are you able to do? Are you guys allowed

485
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: to do anything? No, we're not. Man. We got we

486
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: were dedicated to just one mission, one goal, and that's

487
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: just you know, trying to win, trying to go all

488
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: the way because you know, this year is more than

489
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: just about winning games. You gotta beat COVID too. So

490
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: now you got more than you know, thirty two opponents

491
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: got another one, you know what I'm saying. So we've

492
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: just been fighting COVID this whole year, and you know

493
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: everybody has been taking it upon themselves, you know, make

494
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: sure they you know, stay indoors and just refrain from

495
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: going to just places in general, you know what I'm saying.

496
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: Because we're trying to we're trying to win these games,

497
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: trying to make sure we make a long haul and

498
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: you know, as you see some of these teams get hit,

499
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, they get hit with these outbreaks. They can't

500
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: they can't win these games. They don't have their guys,

501
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: and its like we see the bigger picture of it all.

502
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: So it's kind of been different. Man. You can't really

503
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: get a field for a lot because I mean, stuck

504
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: indoors and it's like you definitely do miss you know,

505
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: being able to go out and explore and go out

506
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: to see what what what what the city has to

507
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: offer and everything. You know, it kind of sucks, but

508
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: you know, you deal with it and you got to

509
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: move on because you know, we're trying to win these

510
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: games and you guys are done a great job man

511
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 1: of protecting the team and do what you guys are

512
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: supposed to do. Now, let's let's talk some ball, man.

513
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: Uh September twenty seven. I think that what that Saturday

514
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: you get the call that you were going to start

515
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 1: against the Dallas Cowboys and then you come out and

516
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: you get a pick and then you back it up

517
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: the following week with a pick against Miami. How rewarding

518
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: and validating was that, Like, look, I'm here, I can

519
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: play in this league. Let's go. Man. It was like

520
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: it was like taking like a deep breath, like just

521
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: letting out all the like just tension and all that,

522
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: just letting it all go. It's why I can. The

523
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: best way I can put it is is just you know,

524
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: after after being you know, going through it I've ben

525
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: for the past three years. Man, It's just a big

526
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: side release for sure. Man, it just felt like I

527
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: felt like I was alive again, you know what i mean.

528
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: And it just get felt so refreshment. It felt just

529
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: so good because you know, you've been trying to prove

530
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: the point not only see yourself but the others that

531
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: you can make plays in the league. You know what

532
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: I mean. You're not just a guy that's on the

533
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: practice squad and just going through the motors like you know,

534
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: you can play. You know you can make plays. And

535
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: it just feels good to be able to have that

536
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: stamped on there, you know what I'm saying. It didn't like, man,

537
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: I shoot, right now, I'm getting all riled up again

538
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: because I'm just starting to get all emos, but just

539
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: making them plays, Like you know what I'm saying, that's

540
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: what you do it for, That's what that's what the

541
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: excitement comes from that's for the love of the game

542
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: comes from them. And I had that, you know, had

543
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: that come around again. You know, it's been a while,

544
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's been a long time,

545
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: and I had that to come back around. Man, it

546
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: felt good, you know what I mean. So now I'm

547
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: just good you for more. You know what I'm saying.

548
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: I want to do more. I want to keep doing more.

549
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: I just want to keep making more of those plays. Red,

550
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: Where did you really almost give this game up? But

551
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 1: we always getting this game up? Yeah, i'd heard, I'm

552
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: telling you, Yeah, yeah, I definitely did, because you know,

553
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: it just goes. I felt like at one point I

554
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I give and give and give,

555
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: and I fight this game takes and takes and thinks,

556
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. At one point I threw

557
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: my hands. I'm like, man, what more do I gotta give?

558
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: What more do I gotta go through? What more do

559
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: I gotta sacrifice? You know, just to be able to

560
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: get out there, you know what I mean. And it

561
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: was definitely a point where I was like, I don't

562
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: know about this, but you know, I got people in

563
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: my corner and you know, just being you know, faithful

564
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: like I am, just like you know what I can.

565
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: You just gotta come back and try it again because

566
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: if you quick, you never know, you know what I'm saying.

567
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: So I'd rather go out and just keep on trying

568
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: and to quit and I never know if I could

569
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: have did it, you know what I'm saying. So that

570
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: just kind of what got me back into it. Well

571
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: that was that was a good decision because you can

572
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: play there, There's no question you can play, and and

573
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: you're making placement. Just bring you back there a little bit.

574
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 1: You said you have some people in your corner who

575
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: who are though it is your brother Mike one of them?

576
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: Or I mean who got you absolutely hey, don't lose confidence.

577
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Mike. Mike is definitely like number one, you

578
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know, I mean he has

579
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: been instrumental, you know, in my whole career, even starting

580
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: from college. You can get my mind right, you know

581
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, to be able to compete at this level.

582
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's by far number one in terms of

583
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: giving me all the advice knowing you know, the ups

584
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: and downs of the game, but knowing the game, you know,

585
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: knowing the player's mind, you know what I'm saying, And

586
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: to have him go through it, you know, go through

587
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: his career first and him see the lad of the

588
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: land and he just he taught me a lot. And

589
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: after that will be of course my fiance and my

590
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: family done. Next to uh, you know, groups of people

591
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: that definitely have been in my corner the entire time.

592
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: My fiance him be complained and you know, crying all

593
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: the other stuff. And then you know my families that

594
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: has always shown me to love and just giving me

595
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: the support that I need and always you know, being

596
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: in my corners. So number three, for sure, you know

597
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, that's the first two people. You know,

598
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: first two group of people I think about when it

599
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: comes to people who have supported me. So heck yeah,

600
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: for sure those people. So Mike's about what seven eight

601
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: years older than you? Was he a tough big brother?

602
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: I mean, talk about that relationship growing up? I just

603
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: want to get our listeners. I mean, he was second

604
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: round pick, you know, went to Purdue linebacker and so

605
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: what was that relationship like growing up? Well, so growing up,

606
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: you know you didn't mention the seven eight years apart.

607
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: So growing up he was more of you know, my parents.

608
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: When he had to work, he was babysitters. So he

609
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: was brother dad for me when I was a kid,

610
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. When I was a kid,

611
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: it was me and my other two brothers, and it

612
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: was him and my big sisters. They were like brother

613
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: dad and brother Myles. So but the older I guy,

614
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: and the more that we were able to, you know,

615
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: talking understanding on the same kind of mature level, the

616
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: more the relationship has grown. And it really took off,

617
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: I think, um when he got to the league, because

618
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: I just always had an interest, like it just always

619
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: was a bourbon and just watching what he was doing.

620
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: I always asked the right questions and he could kind

621
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: of see the hour, you know, kind of thinking and

622
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: like you know, foreshadowing or just forth thinking what I

623
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: was what I wanted to do. And so after that,

624
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: you know, me going to college, you know, to all

625
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: those years in college, it was working and it became

626
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: more from brother Dad and not brother brother. Now we relate,

627
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about everything that he went through

628
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: and his years of college and his years the league

629
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: and all of that. And if you get up until

630
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: the past three years in the off season, I trained

631
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: down to Florida. He lives in Florida, he's I lived

632
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: with him in the off season. That's why I trained

633
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: at And so those three years definitely were three years

634
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: of just catching up on relationship and figuring out, you know,

635
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: what he went through in his story and him sharing

636
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: his expansion of me and vice versa. And so that

637
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: relationship grew to be a whole lot stronger, you know

638
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: than I than than I ever anticipated. And it's a

639
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. Man, you know what I'm saying. Just to

640
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: be able to relate to him on that brother, the

641
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: brother love him said the offer to do this babyshiting,

642
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Just he get what my

643
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: b My parents are here. I ain't good on that one. Yeah,

644
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, our relationship was super cool. A little hey,

645
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: right before I ask you this next question, I want

646
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: to go back. Man, you're doing a great job. You

647
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: showed your fiance some love. I've been married ten years

648
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: more it's been married like thirty years or something like that. Hey,

649
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: you're you're doing it right, brother, You keep that going.

650
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: All right? My next question for you is you seem

651
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: to be around the football right against Miami. You had

652
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: a ten against the New York Giants. The Digs interception

653
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: was because you were at the around the football and

654
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: you tipped it. It's the game slowing down for you,

655
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: and what's your preparation. Like, Man, I definitely think it's

656
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: slowing down for me. I've been and I couldn't wait

657
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: for the game to slow down because I'm telling you,

658
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: just getting and you're just looking at it like, oh

659
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: my god, what's going on? But now you know it's

660
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: just man, just just being able to understand the game more.

661
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: The game of football was trying to be accomplished, you

662
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like is it more about freak

663
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: athletes or is it more about scheme or what's what's

664
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: going on? And so really, um who kind of helped

665
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: me out with that was one was Cam when he

666
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: had reached out to me after the Dallas game. And

667
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: then kJ Wright And because I just always I always

668
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: have its. You just know the game, like I like,

669
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: that's the best way to play when you know what's

670
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: going on, You really you see everything. And so just

671
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: being around those guys and understanding what they look for

672
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: in the film preparation and how they put themselves in

673
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: those positions that that really took my game to the

674
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: next level. I definitely want to give a shot out

675
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: of kJ because it was a string of weeks, so

676
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: I would come up there early and I was just

677
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, watching game for them and he's just telling

678
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: me how he's us a game and talking back and

679
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: forth to Camps. I'm like, oh, yeah, this is really

680
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 1: starting to make a lot of sense now, you know.

681
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: So that really helped me help my game to to

682
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: a whole new level. And uh, you know, when it

683
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: comes to my preparation, I just I make sure I

684
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: just keep going over like you know, just things that

685
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: I see, like just trying to pick out a little

686
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: little bits and pieces of information that I can definitely

687
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: take with me to get me hints, you know what

688
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I definitely am I'm a person that rolls

689
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: off to if you see a little just see a lot,

690
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I always trying to

691
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: foot what the little things that stick out to me

692
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: on film that can give me the whole picture, you

693
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that's kind of how ippy,

694
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, take a lot preparations to the next level

695
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: and trying to get myself closer than make it. Like

696
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: I said, making more plays. Ryan, you're becoming a bit

697
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: of a fan favorite here with the twelves. And there's

698
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: some history with the twelves. It's a shame that you

699
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: haven't had to got to experience all of them here

700
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: as they would be champing your name. But the history

701
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: is they love special team guys that turn into two

702
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: starters eventually. But but the reason why I'm bringing this

703
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: up is there are I always tell when someone blocks

704
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 1: a punt one, they're fearless because you're out in there,

705
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: you're all by yourself. If you don't get it, you

706
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: look bad, right, you rough the guy, and to it

707
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: means you're a playmaker. So my question to you is

708
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: have you blocked a punt before in the game? Is

709
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: that something you were comfortable with? And it was that

710
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: play designed for you last week? Okay, I have never

711
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: blocked a point before. That was my first block punt ever.

712
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: And uh and you, I mean you can kind of

713
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: say it was steamed up again. It was kind of

714
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: a if if you know, they got to pick and choose,

715
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: so it could have been somebody else. But man, I

716
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: tell you that was my first block when the funny

717
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: thing was said, you look bad when I was running

718
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: towards the ball. I'm stilling at the block. You know,

719
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: I don't see this ball. Here be the face right

720
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: at the bar. I do not want to be like

721
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: that was the only thing I got rooted. I'm about

722
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: when I thought, because like you said, I did not.

723
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: I didn't want to miss that at all. Well, I

724
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: can't dude the once in a life fie. Now you're

725
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: gonna You're gonna get another opportunity. I'm gonna give you

726
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: a tip when you get another shot at it. Don't

727
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: block the ball. Block his foot. Put your hand right

728
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: on his foot. That is the key to block and

729
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: punch and you'll never miss. You'll never You'll never get

730
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: a roughing to punter call. And that was such a

731
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: huge play. And again when you go in there fearless

732
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 1: and make a play man, you are playmaker. Man. Excited

733
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: that you were here with us, Thank you, Thank you

734
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: for having that. I appreciate that for real. I've been

735
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: working a long time. For sure. Hey Ryan, you keep

736
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: doing what you're doing. Undrafted free agent stand up thirty five,

737
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: We'll be watching you. Man, have a night, Man thank John,

738
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: so man man, appreciate it. Let's get it. Let's get

739
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: it right, Mary. That was probably one of my favorite.

740
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: It's him Ogo Damien Lewis. I think that that's top

741
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: three right then, Ryan Neil Well, two of the three

742
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: were safety. So yeah, there we go, all right coming them. Next,

743
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: we got you covered all things Seahawks and NFL, as

744
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: the Professor John Klain joins us next on Hawks Live,

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00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: Hawks Slide brought to you Fight Mac and Jack's Brewing

746
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Speaker 1: Company every Thursday from seven to nine, live on air

747
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Speaker 1: on seven ten ESPNC. Hey, we're playing the Funk. Its

748
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: me Michael Bombers with Paul Molawyer every Thursday at field

749
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: right here on seven ten years being. We're getting fugus.

750
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: So that means John Clayton is here. John, How you

751
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: doing got some funk? I'm doing great, doing great, great, John.

752
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get right to it. John. I am

753
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: kind of nervous for this game. I look at the

754
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: film all I look at the film and I say,

755
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: look the Jets. The Jets aren't that good. The Hawks

756
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: should really take care of them. But this is the NFL. John,

757
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: They're on twelve many. They're due for a great game, right,

758
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: They had it last week and they lost. Greg Williams

759
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 1: lost his job because the team was zero wins, called

760
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: a zero blitz cover zero's blitz with virtually little bit

761
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: of time, less than a minute left in the game,

762
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: and lost a game because of it. And so, if

763
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: let's put this way, Michael, if you're worried about the Jets,

764
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: just give up in the season, because again, it's like

765
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: if you if you can't beat a winless team, how

766
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: are you going to be the playoff team? How are

767
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: you going to be the Rams team that right now

768
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: is blowing out the New England Patriots and looking good

769
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: on offense and defense. Maybe not good on offense, but

770
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: looking great on defense. If you have to worry about

771
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: a Jets game, then you better worry period. John. You

772
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: know what you just did. You just patted me on

773
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: the back and soothed me and told me everything's gonna

774
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: be okay. Well, because you said it, I'm gonna relax now,

775
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 1: John on the palm. Well, I'll just say, Mike, relax,

776
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: it's not purple and Gold we're going up against, right,

777
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm bringing one against p I know I know you are.

778
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: And I took a punt back to the house on

779
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: whatever quick. That's not even a baby flex that was.

780
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: That was a big flex. John. Are we healthy? You

781
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: know last week it obviously right tackle became an issue

782
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: as you know, you start getting down to the you know,

783
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 1: third fourth. I thought we were fine until Jamarco Jones

784
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: left there. But how healthy are we going into this?

785
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: I think pretty good because if Brandon Shell is going

786
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: to be able to play, which it looks like he is,

787
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: and if Chris Carson's close to not one hundred percent,

788
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: but close to being you know, the back that can

789
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: get over sixteen carries a game, then they should be fine.

790
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 1: You know, they're one week away from Dunbar coming back

791
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: and that's good. And of course they've got Carlos Dunlap

792
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: looks like, you know, he's going to be able to

793
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: play more than twenty plays. So from that standpoint health wise,

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00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: I think they look good. You know, you know, it's

795
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: still you know, a few guys that are banged up,

796
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: but for the most part, I mean, I'm sure Jamarco

797
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: Jones with a groin injury, probably is not going to

798
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: be able to play. But I think overall, as long

799
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: as Brandon Shell plays and That's the thing that's so

800
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: intriguing about this game because you look at the Jets

801
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: team and how bad they are both as far as

802
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: performance and their talent level. And you look at the

803
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: Seattle right now has picked up three players from the

804
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: Jets that have helped them a lot. I mean, Jason

805
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: Myers is a has been to the Pro Bowl as

806
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: a kicker. Then you've got Jamal Adams, who's probably the

807
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,479
Speaker 1: best safety in the league and was on the verge

808
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: of setting the safety record for sacks I mean seven

809
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: and a half sacks right now, he needs a half

810
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: sack to tie Adrian Wilson, and most people in New

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00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: York thinks that he can get maybe two or three

812
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 1: sacks in his game. And then you know, you add

813
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: the fact of Brandon Shell, who was probably the best

814
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: Seahawk acquisition as far as signing, as far as on

815
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: the offensive line, and so you add those three guys

816
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: and you look at the Jets. I mean, the only

817
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl player they have on the fifty three man

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00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: roster is thirty seven year old running back Frank Gore.

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Speaker 1: All right, John, everyone's trying to place blame on last

820
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: week's loss. Oh, it's Russell oh, it's shot. It's this.

821
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: It is that. I think it was a team loss.

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00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts through the team loss? No doubt

823
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: about it because I like to comment that Shaquille Griffin

824
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: made today said that he just they thought they took

825
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: the Giants for granted, And I think that might have

826
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: been the case. I didn't think the mentality of this

827
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: team would allow that to happen, but it might have

828
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: done that. I think that you can see that. You know,

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00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: they were out of characteristic as far as what they

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00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: were doing as far as their offensive play calling. You know,

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00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: they called I thought, too many outside runs, you know,

832
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: certainly on the short yardist situations. They just didn't do

833
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: the right things. Russell Wilson held onto the ball too

834
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: much to a point where he had three point three

835
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: eight seconds as far as his average time as far

836
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: as releasing the ball, that was the worst in the

837
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: league last year. I mean, they had a bad game

838
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: and so you know, but I think it was more

839
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: than anything else. I mean, Russell did have a bad game.

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00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: What's not I you know, stay away from that. I mean,

841
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: you can't have five sacks for forty five yards. That's

842
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: five killer drives. That you're doing, and of course you

843
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: only get like ten to twelve in a game, so

844
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: that wasn't good. And of course their third down conversions

845
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: have got to improve on offense and defense, because that's

846
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: something that I think you can see. They're now thirty

847
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: eight point seven percent on third down conversions on offense.

848
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: But again, you know, Russell Wilson is one of the

849
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: best in football and fixing things up after something bad,

850
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 1: and he'll fix some things up this week. John's reading

851
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: some stuff on Darryl Taylor this this week, and you know,

852
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: just trying to read between the lines, it sounds like

853
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: the Seahawks maybe think that she's okay. But Daryl, you know,

854
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: I think we got checked on swift some outside or

855
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: third third third opinions on that, and he's not feeling

856
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: right yet. What's the story going on there that you heard.

857
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: I think the big story was in the offseason, you know,

858
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: with no uh, you know, limited number of visits you

859
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: can have to the doctor because of the pandemic, and

860
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 1: I think he just kind of fell behind because remember

861
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: the surgery was in January, and so he probably didn't

862
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: get enough doctor treatment to get him through this injury.

863
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: And so that put him behind, and of course he

864
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: hasn't had a setback or anything like that, but I

865
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: think it's so slow in coming up, so it sounds

866
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: like he's getting closer. I mean, you know, we saw

867
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: Rashad Penny now starting to come back and be on

868
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: the field, and I know that Chris Carson said good

869
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: things about him. It sounds like they're pretty close to

870
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: getting Darryl on the field. Now. Will that mean he's

871
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: going to do something in the regular season, Maybe not,

872
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: because again, it's like if you bring him on the roster,

873
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: you have to take somebody off the roster, and who's

874
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: that going to be. It's like the same thing with

875
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: Rashad Penny. You figure that he will be on the roster,

876
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: but what running back or what other position do you

877
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: let go? But I think in the end, you know,

878
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: it shows that as you get closer to the playoffs,

879
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: that now you have a few more assets that you

880
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 1: can have available. And that also includes Josh Gordon John

881
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: Every now and then, I look like I know what

882
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. If you ask my wife, that's never

883
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 1: but when comes to football every once in a while.

884
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: And I said that Jalen Hurtz was gonna start for

885
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: the Eagles this year. Do you feel like that is

886
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: the right move. I think it's probably a week or

887
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: two too late the way that Carson Wentz was going.

888
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: And so yes, I mean I think that I don't

889
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: know if he's earned any chance to be able to

890
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: do it. But I think you can see as bad

891
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: as Carson Wentz was, and you have to understand that

892
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,479
Speaker 1: he's probably one of the worst quarterbacks in football this year,

893
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: which is amazing when you think how talented he is,

894
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: and of course the surrounding talent doesn't help him out.

895
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: But no, I think that Jalen can try to see

896
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: what he can do. Now. The question is with limited

897
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: resources at wide receiver, with a bad offensive line, a

898
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: limited running game, and banged up tight ends, can he

899
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: do anything? And probably not. And what I worry about

900
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: as Ferndale's Doug Peterson could lose his head coaching job.

901
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: If he does, I think he's gonna be one of

902
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: the most popular guys as far as getting a head

903
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: coaching job for other teams. John, I got lots of questions, sorry,

904
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: but because of time, I've got to flip the switch

905
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: on you. Oh darn no, Well, I mean we got time.

906
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: That's why I want to get to it now. Is

907
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: what do you want to talk about that no one's

908
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: been asking yet. Well, because Brandon Bean got a contract

909
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,479
Speaker 1: extension this year that equals what Sean McDermott was able

910
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: to get with the Buffalo Bills, I'm sure it's probably

911
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: in that loath for million dollars a year range. And

912
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 1: so what nobody's asking me about is like, Okay, where

913
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: do we stand right now with John Snyder? Because John

914
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: is not a free agent or anything like that. He's

915
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: in an option year. But I'd have to think right

916
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: now that they've got to be working on it to

917
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: try to match the Pete Carroll contract because you know,

918
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: Peak got the five year extension, and so my guess

919
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: would be that they've got to get something close to

920
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: getting him a five year extension. He's so important. You

921
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: look at the additions. I mean, the fact that here's

922
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: a team that you know, everybody was criticizing John Snyder

923
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: for for not getting Jadevian Clowney and not getting pass

924
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: rushing and everything else. Well, guess what you know with

925
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: all the moves that he's made with Jamal Adams and

926
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: Benson Mayowa and certainly getting Carlos Dunlap. They've added seventeen

927
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: sacks and that's as much as any team as far

928
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: as additions right now. So I think it's time right

929
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: now for John Snyder to get an extension. Hey John,

930
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: if you know Pro Football Focus. The reason I'm bringing

931
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: that up as do they have something like that for GMS?

932
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: Because I'm looking at John Snyder. First of all, the

933
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: amount of Hall of Famers he's going to have under

934
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: his watch is amazing. What he's done. I we just

935
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: had Ryan neil On. I mean, what a fine. I mean,

936
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,959
Speaker 1: here's a guy Southern Illinois on practice squads and he's

937
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: become the new big play Babs of our generation. Right.

938
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: I mean, do they have anything out there that actually

939
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: there's a way to put some substance to this. Yeah,

940
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,479
Speaker 1: I mean not Pro Football Focus, but there's some other

941
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: analytical sites that you start. You know the number of

942
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl players that have been taken, and you know

943
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: the additions and things like that, and so I mean,

944
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,479
Speaker 1: he wins in so many of those categories. And again

945
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: you think about the idea that what he's been able

946
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: to add on the defensive side of the ball, as

947
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: far as numbers. I mean the fact that he gets

948
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: DJ Reid from San Francisco and recognizes how good he was,

949
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: the fact that, okay, he didn't work out for b J. Finney,

950
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: but I mean he recognized that Brandon Shell and Finney

951
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: were the two guys that he wanted and Shell has

952
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: done so much better. And then you look at the

953
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: Jets team right now that again, this team has added

954
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: more from the Jets the Jets have right now. So no,

955
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: I think that there's analytical sites that help that out,

956
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: but they don't seem to go ahead and promote who

957
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: are the best. And that's a shame because John Snyder,

958
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, random means probably gonna be the GM of

959
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: the Year this year, Executive of the year. But I

960
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: think John Snyder has done such a great job. I'm

961
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: with you. John Snyder has done a great job. As always, Clayton,

962
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 1: you do a great job. We appreciate you taking time tonight.

963
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: You have a good one. Man, Hey, thank you? All right?

964
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: Did the Giants out scheme the Seahawks? Is there a

965
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: simple solution to fixing the Seahawks offense? Is the NFC

966
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: East better than what we thought? Paul Moyer and I

967
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: turn up the heat as we talked that talk coming

968
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: up next on Hawks Live. Hawks Sucks Live every Thursday

969
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: from seven to nine, Live on air on seven CHENN

970
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: ESPN Seattle and brought to you by Mac and Jack's

971
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: Brewing Company. Now you're your host, Michael Bumpus and Paul Moyer.

972
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: It's time to talk that talk with Michael Bumpus and

973
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: Paul Moyer on Hawks Live. Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and girls.

974
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: This time they taught that taught me. Michaelbamas with Paul

975
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: Moyer every Thursday right here. This is probably our favorite

976
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: segment other than the interview. This is this our favorite

977
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: segment because we get to really get some stuff off

978
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: our chests. And my first question I have for you,

979
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: Paul Moore, is did the Giants out scheme the Seahawks

980
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: on Sunday? Out scheme? That just that? You mean they

981
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: out coached us? Um? Is that a yes or no question?

982
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: That's I know, I'm sorry, I'm I'm waughing on this.

983
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 1: I here's what I think they did. I already knew

984
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: going into the game. What they do well. Yeah, and

985
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: they when they do well is particularly defensively, is not

986
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 1: giving up big plays. They played probably the best team

987
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: defense i'd seen all year and what we had seen

988
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: them who we had played so far. I'm not saying

989
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: they had the best players. You know, their defensive line

990
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: was okay, their secondary was pretty good. They had a

991
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: good corner, good safety, but you know, not across the board,

992
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: not the best secondary, not the best linebackers, not the

993
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: best front four. But as eleven guys playing together as

994
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: a unit, to me, that was the best team defense

995
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: were we were about to play all year long. And

996
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: they proved that. What I think they did and they

997
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if they out schemed us. What they

998
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: did every coach wants to do is take away what

999
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: you do best, and they did that. And they said,

1000
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: you are not beating us deep. You're gonna have to

1001
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: beat us Russell checking down. And I don't know if

1002
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: that means out scheme that Russell not see it. Did

1003
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: we not adjust? There's been a lot of talk. It's

1004
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: a game of adjustments. Sometimes people play better than you,

1005
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: some people they have a better scheme. Sometimes you just

1006
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: don't sleep well at night and you wake up with

1007
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: a kink in your neck and you don't play the

1008
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: best your ability. Sometimes you get in the fight with

1009
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: your wife, right, I mean, you're emotional and you just don't.

1010
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: I tell everybody you go to work every single day.

1011
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: Are you at your best every single day? No? And

1012
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: guess what sometimes in the NFL that's the case too,

1013
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: And that to me is what happened more than anything.

1014
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: But you're just your thoughts on that out scheme. I

1015
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't say out scheme because I'm looking. I'm thinking. I'm

1016
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: talking from the offensive side, right, I'm looking at this

1017
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: Giant's defense and pre snap, I pretty much know what

1018
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: they're in. Besides the stunts on that defensive line, you

1019
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: pretty much know what is going to happen and what

1020
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 1: should be there before the ball is snaps, I wouldn't

1021
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: say out scheme. That defense reminded me of a defense

1022
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: like a basketball defense when they play zone, right, and

1023
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: they're playing two men, but you play zone and you're

1024
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: passing things off and everything's it's cohesive. It feels right.

1025
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: I mean, the way these guys played it, it seemed

1026
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: like they were prepared for everything that they hawks through

1027
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: at them. Now, when you play two high men, it's

1028
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: not like you're you're throwing pre snap, you're moving guys

1029
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,959
Speaker 1: around you do it. No, you're just saying, look, look,

1030
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: we've studied you, we know what you like to do.

1031
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: So we're gonna sag all. We're gonna make sure after

1032
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: DK runs ten yards, he's running a post, he's running

1033
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: to come back. There's only a couple of things he

1034
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: can do after that. I just felt like they were prepared.

1035
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: Our scheme just means like, oh my god, they're so witty,

1036
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: they're so smart. They weren't prepared for this. I don't

1037
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: think that. I think those defensive players just played really good. Yeah,

1038
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: I agree. So I'm gonna bring up a topic that

1039
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: I thought would have been crazy or I don't know

1040
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: if whatever you would have but certainly a lot of

1041
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: people would have thought crazy five or six weeks ago.

1042
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: But we're in the final quarter of the season and

1043
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: we've talked about this. The first quarter was not good defensively.

1044
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: I mean, we were on historic pace for the worst

1045
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: defense in NFL history. We're no longer even close to that, Maverick,

1046
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: We're not even dead last in defense anymore. In the

1047
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: last three games, I just looked up got the final staff.

1048
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 1: I think we're number five over the last three games

1049
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: and even go back four and a half games where

1050
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: I think we were number two. Over the next four games, well,

1051
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: the defense be the strength of this team, Well, they

1052
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: outplay the offense. That is a good question, Paul Moyer.

1053
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: So you're right in the beginning of the season you

1054
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: asked this question. I'm like, Paul Man, did you play

1055
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: the game and did you coach the game? But now

1056
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: it's a different question. You really have to ask this question,

1057
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: and I'm going to say no. I'm going to say

1058
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Speaker 1: that because you have Russell Wilson in DK who right

1059
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: now is playing like the best receiver in the NFL.

1060
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: And you have Chris Carson in the back film, who

1061
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: is I feel this week is going to get his

1062
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: twenty touches twenty to twenty five. NASA has been saying

1063
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: that all week. I'm boughten. I believe in that. I

1064
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: think they are gonna turn this thing around and get

1065
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: it going. Now. Who the guys playing, They're playing the

1066
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: Jets coming up next. Got the Jets, We got the

1067
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: dreaded Washington nervous they make you nervous, and we have

1068
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: the Rams here that's gonna be a big one. And

1069
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: then we finished the season at the hated San Francisco

1070
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: for to that. Okay, so against the yet, I think

1071
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball should do their thing. Okay,

1072
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: when it comes to the Washington football team, if the

1073
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: offense does not perform, they may not win that football game.

1074
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: So it has to be the offense. And because I

1075
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: feel like it has to be the offense against the

1076
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: Washington football team, I think the offense will carry these

1077
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: hats into the playoffs. What are your thoughts. I think

1078
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: our defense has hit its stride. I mean we're giving

1079
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: up under three hundred yards a game the last three,

1080
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: certainly the last four and a half the last four.

1081
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean that rank in the top five defenses in

1082
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: the league. It's not how you start, it's how you finished.

1083
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: You know. I've been saying that to me. It's all

1084
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: about matchups, right. Our players haven't changed, you know, We've

1085
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: just gotten healthy. Offensively, We're gonna have the same offensive line,

1086
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: same running back, same wide receiver, same quarterback, same coach.

1087
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: If you would have said we got three guys on

1088
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: offense that got hurt, we lost DK Medcalf, Carson's out

1089
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: for the year. Oh, by the way, we're down to

1090
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: our fourth running back. I'm like Okay, I got a

1091
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,919
Speaker 1: built an excuse here. There's no excuse our talent is there.

1092
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: I don't see us. I see us maybe not getting

1093
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: that four hundred yard number every week and over thirty points.

1094
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 1: But yes, I think the defense is going to carry

1095
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: this team. Okay. And here's why. One is we knew

1096
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: going into the season we were loaded across the board

1097
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: in the secondary, our linebackers. I didn't think we were

1098
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: going to be as good as we were because you know,

1099
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm like Bobby's getting older, cages getting older. We got

1100
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: this young kid, Jordan Brooks is a rookie. You didn't

1101
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: even really play a linebacker last year. He was a

1102
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: spy quarterback and he's gonna be another Bobby Wagner. He

1103
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: is going to be a phenomenal player. But all three

1104
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: of them are playing the lights out. We've got this

1105
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 1: rotation out with the defensive line. I think we're number

1106
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: two or three in most sacks over the last four

1107
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: games since Dunlaps come in. We're playing Washington, who we

1108
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: better shut down. We got the Jets, who's the worst

1109
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: offense in the NFL, and then we finished against the

1110
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: forty nine ers on even care We're we're gonna take

1111
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 1: care of business. The Rams not as good as we think.

1112
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: The defense is going to carry this team the next

1113
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: four games into the playoffs. You know what I can.

1114
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: I can fill your angle. I see where you're coming from.

1115
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 1: But I feel like because the offense play so poorly

1116
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: against the New York Giants, that they're gonna come out

1117
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: and correct some things against against the Jets, and it's

1118
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: gonna be at better. It's gonna ain't better. I'm with you.

1119
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 1: Then it's gonna be a snowball effect. Then they're gonna

1120
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: go out against the Washington football team and exploit their

1121
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: weakness on their weakness, the witnesses secondary secondaries of weakness.

1122
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: Their strength is inside inside the box. What what is

1123
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: the strength of this seaff football team right now? It's

1124
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: not the run games. So you talk about matchup, So

1125
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: I like that matchup. I think because of what they

1126
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: present on that defense. First off, Rams, we don't know

1127
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: what the heck is gonna happen with the Rams. The

1128
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: Rams always play the Seahawks stuff, So that's atossa. When

1129
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: it comes to the forty nine ers, I think that

1130
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: the offense is gonna get it done as well. There Okay,

1131
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: so let me help you out with your nat I

1132
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: don't need your help. Don't help me. Now you got

1133
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: to say don't, I don't need your help. Okay. Washington

1134
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: defense fourth in the NFL, Rams defense second in the NFL.

1135
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers six in the NFL. So

1136
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: guess what, you better talk that talk, and you better

1137
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: walk the walk even more because the offense is gonna

1138
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: have to bow up. They're gonna have to play the

1139
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: best football they played. We're gonna we're gonna see the

1140
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: offense that we saw week one through five. All right,

1141
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: that's what I think. What you got, Paul, it's on me.

1142
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: It's on me. I'm sorry you show fluster. You don't

1143
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: even know who's auster. I don't know what flustered is.

1144
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: What's the definition of fluster? Paul means, all right, the

1145
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: Seahawks will make a deep run into the playoffs. Absolutely,

1146
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: I don't believe you. Absolutely I don't. I don't believe that,

1147
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: he said, absolut, give me thumb, no, I I do.

1148
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: I do believe that guy. Now that's I'm gonna preface

1149
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: that by saying that means we're gonna run the table.

1150
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: The next four games where the offense is back. I

1151
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: think the defense the next four games is gonna keep

1152
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: getting healthy. And when I say healthy, healthy statistically and

1153
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: feeling good about themselves, we get we get Dunbar back

1154
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: as well. Health. Even though I think Reid has played

1155
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: really well, he's given us a toughness, or added to

1156
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: the toughness. I think Ryan nels tough. I think he

1157
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: reads to I think Amadi's tough. We know Jamal Adams

1158
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: and Digs are stupid tough, right, So you just got

1159
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: a secondary now it's got a little bit of a

1160
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: nastiness to him, and I think Reid has brought that

1161
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: to whoever. If Dunbar comes back, he gonna have to

1162
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: play that way too, because that's now our identity. So defense,

1163
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm excited about the next four games and into the playoffs.

1164
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: I seed the offense. It's not talent, it's not scheme.

1165
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: I see to get their their their mojo, their groove back,

1166
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: their confidence what they had before. And sometimes that's all

1167
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: it is, you know. I go back to two thousand

1168
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: and twelve, the last five games of the year, we

1169
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: had two games back to back over fifty points. That

1170
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't anything different they just got confident and confident the

1171
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: deep ball at the time. Russell has got to get

1172
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: back to confident and ball comes out. I'm okay with

1173
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: the checkdown, comes out, comes out because guess way, that

1174
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: eventually opens up for the big play. So yeah, I

1175
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: do think we'll get a deep run. But if we

1176
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: go two and two, then I'm gonna say no. Yeah,

1177
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: so it really really indictive over the last four games. Yeah,

1178
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm with you. If the Hogs were to start the

1179
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: playoffs right now, they will play the New York Giants,

1180
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 1: and I feel like they will balance back against the Yes,

1181
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 1: they will. I feel like they would. You get film

1182
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: if something were to happen. They could play the Cardinals,

1183
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: they could play the Bears and that happened. There's so

1184
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: many things that can still play out. We shall see.

1185
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: I think that they will win at least one a

1186
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: playoff game, and that's what they've done over the past

1187
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: few years. All right, Well that was talk that I

1188
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: talk Paul Man. All right, we'll come on them next.

1189
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 1: We'll go inside the film room and revisit the biggest

1190
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: players from the Seahawks loss of the Giants. That's around

1191
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,200
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1192
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: Mac and Chack's Brewing Company, every Thursday from seven to nine,

1193
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: live on air on seven ten ESPN. Seattle Hawkslive every

1194
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: Thursday on seven ten ESPN from Luminfield. I'm Michael Bombs.

1195
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: He is Paul Moyer. Now right now, we're jumping into

1196
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: the film room, all right, and the first play we

1197
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: are going to look at is Quandre Diggs intercepts Colton

1198
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: McCoy after a Ryan Neil pass breakup, So Yawks need

1199
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: to stop here on third down. Here comes to Blas

1200
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: quick throw inside ball tipped up, It's going the other ways.

1201
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: Digs going down the far sideline, breaks one tackle, jumps

1202
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: over a man still on the move. Finally track down

1203
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: in Giants territory at for forty five yard line and

1204
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: looks like he may have stepped out of ounds back

1205
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: in Seahawks territory, but the ball was tipped away and

1206
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: picked by Dick Well. We had Ryan Neil on earlier today.

1207
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: What a great interview, What a great heck up for

1208
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. You know, undrafted free agents hopped around a

1209
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: couple of teams. The beauty about this is look they

1210
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: isolate him. You know he's all alone on the right

1211
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: side of our defense. Uh, you know, they try to

1212
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: work him one on one with just a stick rout.

1213
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: He can play corner, he can play nickel, he can

1214
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: play safety, he come off the edge. We got to

1215
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: come up with him that we had big play baths.

1216
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: We gotta find something for Meal all he had so

1217
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: far as he's had two interceptions, he's had a block punt.

1218
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: He had this play right here that caused the interception

1219
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: for Digs. To talk about a game of inches, right,

1220
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: I mean Dig steps out of bounds on this play.

1221
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: He brings it all the way down about the thirty

1222
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: yard line before they brought it back about twenty yards

1223
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: on that This game was a game answer. We had

1224
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: the block punt that we didn't secure and you know

1225
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: that costs us a touchdown instead of a safety, and

1226
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: that's five points. We lose by five this one. We're

1227
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: probably getting better range to score. I don't think we

1228
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: scored on this one game adventures. But you know, Ryan

1229
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: Neil what a playmaker. I think he's a guy that

1230
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: when Jamal Adams came back, they said we gotta keep

1231
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: him in the dime package. Right. We gotta keep him

1232
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: as a safety and let us start to do some

1233
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: different packages. Love the guy. He's a great player, yeah, Paul.

1234
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: All he does is make plays. He can't be big

1235
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: play because I already got back there. So we gotta

1236
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: figure something now for this guy with you. But what

1237
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: I see is a guy who believes in what he sees.

1238
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: He breaks on the football, and I see two fundamentals

1239
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: of football that you hear when you're little growing up

1240
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: on defense. One, you play through the man, right, you

1241
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: don't play the ball. You play through the man you

1242
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: get a collision. And then, as you're a safety, you

1243
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: always rally to the football. Wherever the full balls throw him,

1244
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: you rally to the football. And that's why Diggs is

1245
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: in such great position. This is the second time Neil

1246
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: has called an interception off of him playing through the man.

1247
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: He has great instincts. I love his personality. Man, I

1248
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: think he's gonna I think he's gonna squeak out some

1249
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: years in this league. Paul. You know it was great

1250
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: about him too. On this one again, we were sending five.

1251
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: I think we sent five guys on us, maybe six

1252
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: sent five guys dropped Mayo who picked up the running back, which,

1253
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: by the way, he did a really nice job there.

1254
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: So he's isolated all by himself. To the right, there's

1255
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: no one there. He's playing inside technique and he maintains

1256
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: his inside technique. This ball is thrown inside and he

1257
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: knocks the ball with his left hand and drives through it.

1258
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: This is this is textbook technique here, textbook technique, all right.

1259
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: The next play is Jamal Adams sax Culton McCoy on

1260
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: third down. Tait is standing in the Slotti here kind

1261
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: of by himself, but Amadi comes back and plays him hard.

1262
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: McCoy is hitting the back fielding goes down at the

1263
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: twenty yard line. Jared Reek was there, but Jamal Adams

1264
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: also there. Well, you know what's crazy about this play

1265
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: is we try to scheme him, and you know, scheme

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01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: just means that we're we're gonna try and get a

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01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: guy free, and so we we kind of overload the

1268
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: side are left to get Jamal Adams free. But he's

1269
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: not free. They actually picked this up pretty well. But

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01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: Jamal had I mean, the running back tries to cut him.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it slowed him down one fraction of

1272
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: a second man. It actually might have speeded him up.

1273
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: He's one of the few guys you try to block him.

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01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: He actually gets faster. He's got a speed rush, he's

1275
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: got an inside move, he's got a swim move, he's

1276
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: got a bull rush. It's remarkable. The athletic says, I

1277
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: have no idea what I would teach here because it

1278
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: happened so late. The running back tries to cut him

1279
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: at the last second, and Jamal Adams athletic ability, has

1280
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: a way of getting his hands on the guy's head

1281
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: and back pushing him all the way to the ground,

1282
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: stays up huge sack. I mean, he's seven and a

1283
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: half sacks. The man's the safety. He's met four games,

1284
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: seven half sacks. That's that was a good that was

1285
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: a good trader. What I see here, he has a

1286
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: little bit of everything. You see him look like a linebacker.

1287
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: See him look like a defensive line with his hands.

1288
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: Do you see him look like a dB. I'm saying

1289
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: he's just in hybrid right here. You mentioned this running

1290
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:08,959
Speaker 1: back trying to cut him. What are you doing, guys

1291
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: trying to cut you? Paul Moore, you get your hands

1292
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: on and you push him down, then you get over.

1293
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: This is just textbook, and like you mentioned, he's doing

1294
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: it at a hundred miles an hour. He's getting after

1295
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback. I haven't seen have you seen a safety

1296
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: like him? Does he resemble anybody to do different? Because

1297
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: of his strength? I mean I can go with you know,

1298
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: Troy Polamalo, who had that kind of ability, that that

1299
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: sense of pass rushing, but he didn't have that strength.

1300
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Jamal Adams will actually bull rush an offensive

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01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: tackle and win. So that last week, right, We've seen

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01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: it probably a few times. And I remember when he

1303
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: was with the Jets against the Redskins. I mean he

1304
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: beat you know, he did a speed rush, dipped his

1305
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: shoulder and beat the tackle. I mean, just it's it's

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01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: unheard of. I'm watching this play and do you know

1307
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: how many times I have done on this or either

1308
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: was rushing on a pass or a run and got

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01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: cut at the last second. Let me tell you where

1310
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: I was though I was on the ground. Okay, there's

1311
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: no way I'm getting this sack unless a guy holds

1312
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: a ball and runs back towards me and didn't see

1313
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: me and I tripped him. There's just there's almost no

1314
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: way that you cannot be cut on this play because

1315
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: it happens so late, and so I'm watching this over

1316
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 1: and over. I go, what did he see? You know?

1317
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: Why did his hands go down there so quick? And

1318
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: he's like, I mean, Floyd Mayweather. I don't know how

1319
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: to describe that. His hands are so quick and his

1320
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: reaction is so quick. Ninety nine point nine nine percent

1321
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: of safeties or anybody coming off the corner there on

1322
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: the ground, they're cut. So what you're telling me is

1323
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: that he's specialties. There's stuff he can't teach. That that

1324
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: was one of them. Will take that, all right. The

1325
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,919
Speaker 1: next player, Russell Wilson, finds Chris Carson for a twenty

1326
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: eight yard testdown from their own twenty eight Russell is

1327
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: gonna scramble left side. Now, I was going to throw

1328
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: to the ends, reaching up taking the catch. Chris Carson

1329
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: does He get in? He does touchdown Seahawks. Chris Carson

1330
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: releases down to far sidelines, Rush rolls left, throws across

1331
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: his body, a beautiful pass. Carson hangs on, stepped over

1332
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: the pilot, and the Seahawks draw to within six point

1333
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: seventeen eleven. The Hawks looking for the extra point here,

1334
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: all right, So the Hawks come out in an empty formation.

1335
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: We talked about the Giants being a too high team,

1336
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: you staying too high versus empty. Good luck to you,

1337
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna pick you apart. So what happens here is

1338
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: Chris Carson runs a slant and go we called out

1339
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: a slogo in this business here, but he has DK

1340
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: in the slot with DK does a great job of

1341
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: man this is. People don't take this for granted. DK

1342
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: threatens that outside linebacker and that now he's the bender.

1343
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: He realizes as soon as he gets behind that linebacker,

1344
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: I gotta bend towards the middle of the field to

1345
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: put some type of pressure on the safety. But what

1346
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: the ben does. It brings the corner who's lined up

1347
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: over Chris Carson along with him. Because he's number fourteen,

1348
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: one thousand and thirty nine yards and what nine touchdowns,

1349
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 1: he needs that attention. So because he gains that attention,

1350
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: Chris Carson throws his hand up. The corner has missus leverage.

1351
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: Russell gets outside the pocket. This is one of the

1352
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: best stores of the year in my opinion, throws a

1353
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: dime to Chris Carson, and Chris Carson looks so just relax.

1354
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: When he catches the football, turns around, he spins around

1355
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: six ball over the pilin. I mean, this was what

1356
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: we thought we were gonna see throughout the game. But

1357
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: DKA effect in full effect right here. More. Yeah, it's big.

1358
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: I'm really curious what this play was designed to do

1359
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: and what I would love to tell Russell is and

1360
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: even shoddy to an extent when you have that kind

1361
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: of delay in a route. Right, So he runs what

1362
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: you call it a slant and go. I don't care

1363
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: if he ran. He jogged for a few minutes and

1364
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: just let DK clear and then you're kind of the

1365
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: tray receiver in this route, right. So it's just it's

1366
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: it's hard to cover. So it's kind of like a

1367
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 1: second a guy running a flat and go. You're taught

1368
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: if you have a flat, you've got to run with

1369
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: that because the deep third guy or any of the

1370
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: deep half is so far down the field he can't

1371
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: help you in that. So you've got to carry that.

1372
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: So this is another way of getting that. Um, you're right.

1373
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: The only thing I really will will share on this

1374
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: is they they they well it's a four man rush.

1375
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: It's really a three man rush with a spy on

1376
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Here, Russell Wilson is the best quarterback in

1377
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: the NFL. Running to his left and throwing on the

1378
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: run to his left. This is so hard to do

1379
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: when you're right handed, and there's very few quarterbacks Aaron

1380
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: Rodgers can do. It's certainly you know, Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson,

1381
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: they're not a lot after that. I mean, it's it's

1382
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: so and it's just the accuracy of it. I mean,

1383
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: this is ball as throne where it has to be

1384
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: the corner kind of reacts. So if Russell doesn't throw

1385
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: it back towards the sideline, maybe the corner the last

1386
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: second makes your play. And he made a good comment

1387
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: on Chris Carson. He does it so nonchal. I would

1388
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: have had both hands on the ball, you know, Man

1389
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: don't fumble, you know, and he just he's so strong

1390
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: and he just kind of reaches his arm over the

1391
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: pylon there. And more routes like that. I know that's

1392
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: not that much. It's hard to sometimes to describe, but

1393
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: it's just that separation of a go with a trailing

1394
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver really hardened his own defenses to stop that

1395
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: hard to do. We need more of that. This week

1396
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: against the Jets. Paul Moyer, All right, Jalen Hurts finally

1397
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: gets his opportunity that still has finally taken out and

1398
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 1: tasom him actually look good throwing the fullball. So much

1399
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 1: to impact. From week thirteen, Paul Moore and I take

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01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: it around the NFL. Coming up next on Hawks Live.

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01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,480
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1403
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:56,600
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1404
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: Paul Moyer, Man, this music gets me going. We're going

1405
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: around the NFL right now. Yeah, we're going around in

1406
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 1: the first thing we got to talk about, which is

1407
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: good Rams Verse, New England. The Rams beat the Pages

1408
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: twenty four to three, Jared Golf sixteen to twenty five,

1409
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty seven yards, one touchdown, one intersects

1410
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: and the stat that sticks out to me they might

1411
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: have found their running back, Cam Anchors twenty nine carries

1412
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy one yards. I believe you cut

1413
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,759
Speaker 1: out of Florida State and I believe that's where he's from.

1414
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: He's looking good. Is that making nervous about the Rams?

1415
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: When they play the hall. I'm not worried about the

1416
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: Rams offense. You know, we played good run defense. You

1417
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: know we found last week sometimes you can play great

1418
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 1: run defense and two plays you mess up. And we

1419
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 1: had two plays we gave up eighty three yards and

1420
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: two running plays and that was you know, almost all

1421
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: of their yards unfortunately, So you gotta play really sound.

1422
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: I think we know the Rams so well. I'm not

1423
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: worried about their offense. I think we match up well

1424
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: now with their offense. I don't think we're afraid now

1425
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: of the deep crossroom. I think we're willing to match

1426
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: up and turn that to me. Jordan Brooks has really

1427
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: flipped it for the linebackers. The guy turns, runs, get stepped.

1428
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 1: He knows how to play man man to man on

1429
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: play action and bootlegs. So I'm not worried about I'm

1430
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: worried about their defense though. Um their defense get out

1431
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: of their number two. Coming in tonight. They held I

1432
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 1: don't know what the staffs were for New Engl, but

1433
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: they held them the three points. I guess the question

1434
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you. They Ken did not look good.

1435
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: I think he got benched. I mean, this has been

1436
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: the really since our game, He's had a couple of

1437
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: decent ones, but to get over two hundred yards, I mean,

1438
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 1: is this it? Does he get another starting job? I

1439
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: think this is the end of theirs. So had this

1440
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: is it to say goodbye? Say goodbye? I think this

1441
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 1: is it. I've wanted to support this man, this olcre

1442
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 1: I have. He's done his own way. He's a trendsetter,

1443
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: doesn't look like a traditional quarterback. But at some point

1444
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: you have to be a traditional quarterback when you get old,

1445
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: and he's getting up there. If you can't throw it

1446
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: from the pocket, accurate football from the pocket, then you

1447
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: shorten your life as a quarterback. So I think this

1448
01:09:56,520 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 1: is the end for Cam. Do you agree? Yeah? I do.

1449
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 1: I think he can still play. Yes, I mean it's

1450
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: sometimes it's not are you one of the best thirty

1451
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks? That's not what it is. It's are you

1452
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 1: the right fit for the right money? Are you willing

1453
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: to play for less dollars? Are you willing to be

1454
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: a backup? I think he's still got something structurally wrong

1455
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: with his shoulder. He's never been the same, particularly last

1456
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: three years. Really labors to throw the ball over twenty yards.

1457
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: So there's something not right there. He probably gets another chance,

1458
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: but I think the mystique of his athletic ability and

1459
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 1: all that is, it's they're not it's you're not as

1460
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: worried about him, right all the thirties, you just you're

1461
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,799
Speaker 1: not worried about a guy running over you that much anymore.

1462
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: I don't know his stats, but I'm gonna say he

1463
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 1: doesn't have a run over fifteen yards this year. Really, Yeah,

1464
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say not over fifteen yards. I'm just gonna

1465
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: throw that out there. Will check during the break. I

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01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 1: thought I got a producer, will find that. I'm gonna

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01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: say he's had a run over fifteen fifteen, all right.

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01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 1: I'milla say he's had a run over twenty over twenty. Yeah,

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01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: we'll see, all right. The Pittsburgh Steelers, they going into

1470
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: this week, previous week, I thought they were the most

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01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 1: fraudulent undefeated team known to man. Who who they beat?

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Speaker 1: I guess they beat the Ravens, they beat the Titans,

1473
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 1: yeah they were, They BEATN eleven teams, whoever they were rounds.

1474
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just looking for notable wins. I just

1475
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: did not believe in them. And then when they lose

1476
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: it a Washington football team. That just just reassures me

1477
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: that I was I was going down the right path. Yeah,

1478
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: their offense is a is a problem, a big bend.

1479
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes again perception reality, right, You hear me say it

1480
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: a lot. Sometimes you go, oh, it's big Ben. I go, well, yeah,

1481
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: I mean if Joe Montana trotted on the field, you go,

1482
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: it's Joe Montana. Then you look at him, you say,

1483
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 1: he's he looks like a grandfather. He is a grandfather.

1484
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: Ten big Ben. No, it's no, it's it's not and

1485
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 1: he's he's lost a little bit. They don't have the

1486
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 1: weapons they used to have. I mean he los you know,

1487
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: Bell and Brown. I mean from your offense, that's that's

1488
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: a lot. Still got a pretty good offensive line, defense

1489
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: will be they're awesome. Yeah, I mean they got some players.

1490
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 1: I love what they do. Keith Butler defensive coordinator, scheme wise,

1491
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: but the eye test is the one you were we

1492
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 1: were always looking at. You go, they they're not dominant.

1493
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,839
Speaker 1: You watch Kansas City and you go, yeah, that's a problem.

1494
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 1: That's a problem. You know. Um, I'm glad they lost

1495
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: because maybe they turn it around a little bit. I

1496
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: don't see this team making a lot of noise in

1497
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,560
Speaker 1: the playoffs. So now I don't see him making a

1498
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 1: lot of noise. I think Ben is getting older. Claypool

1499
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: is their best receiver. Nice rookie, okay, but you get

1500
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 1: your rookie slumps and you gotta fight through some things.

1501
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 1: You got Connor in the backfield. But there's I just

1502
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 1: don't believe them. I just I haven't believed in them.

1503
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: Usually I do believe in the Steelers team, but this

1504
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,799
Speaker 1: is probably the one team I've believed in the least

1505
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: since Tomlin has taken over. Yeah, they were for eleven

1506
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: and now they just didn't look the part all right.

1507
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 1: So we've got a lot going on with COVID, a lot,

1508
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 1: you know, just you know, States all that stuff, weren't

1509
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: getting all that but just found out Oregon Washington canceled

1510
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: this Saturday. You see it all over the board throughout college.

1511
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: A lot of positive tests. NFL a bunch of them.

1512
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,600
Speaker 1: You know, we've seen it, certainly with the Ravens Tennessee.

1513
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: Just about every team has had an issue where they've

1514
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 1: had to shut down their facilities. There's one has not

1515
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 1: had a positive test, the Seattle Seahawks. And so what

1516
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 1: I want to ask you maybe we bring NASA in

1517
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 1: on this too. You know, every team saying the same thing. Hey, look,

1518
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,759
Speaker 1: you know we got a mask up, we got social distancing.

1519
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: You can't go anywhere. There's one thing to say, it's

1520
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: another one to get the whole team to buy in

1521
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: on it. We had Ryan nel in earlier and we asked,

1522
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: what do you get through? And he's nothing because guess what,

1523
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: it's not just the team we're playing. We're playing two teams.

1524
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 1: We're playing COVID And you could hear the conviction in

1525
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 1: him on that that they meant it. They're not going

1526
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: out and doing that. So as you NASA, why is

1527
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 1: the Seahawks the only team if we lookt we just

1528
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 1: shut the state down because we've had more positive tests

1529
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: since it thinks i'll shlby Shelby, Well, it's it's everything

1530
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 1: that we do. It's Pete Carroll. It starts with him.

1531
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:11,759
Speaker 1: They have competitions between position groups on contact tracing. Everyone

1532
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: wears the contact chip and it's how close you are

1533
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: to people, whether when you're within six feet. So there's

1534
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 1: position groups competing each against each other. As he has

1535
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: the least amount of contact. It's everyone there's contact tracers

1536
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: in the building. I'm one of them. Shout out to

1537
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 1: Aaron Mooney and Kati McClean. He were with me making

1538
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 1: sure all the players have chips on them. It's little

1539
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: things every single day. Make sure the coaches are wearing

1540
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,759
Speaker 1: the chips, the medical staff, the equipment staff, the food,

1541
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: it's everyone. Everyone that walks into that building knows that

1542
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: they have a role to play because when they go home,

1543
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: you could bring COVID into building. So when you have

1544
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 1: contact with all these players, it takes every single person

1545
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 1: in the organization bought in. And that starts with Pete

1546
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: Carroll and John Snyder and it goes down. It's a

1547
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 1: trickle down to sec. What about hold. I believe, I

1548
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: believe in what NAT's the saying because he's ground zero.

1549
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 1: He's in there. But I'm also gonna go outside. Hey,

1550
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 1: none of doing Seattle right now. Man, it's Seattle. It's

1551
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 1: like five clubs you can go too. If you're not

1552
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 1: going to a club, there's dive bar. No one goes,

1553
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,839
Speaker 1: there's there's an underground. Man. You want to find trouble,

1554
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: you can, but it's harder to find trouble out here.

1555
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: Many we could find trouble we could find. We've got

1556
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 1: to look really hard, really hard. But there's leadership there

1557
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: and all the things that NASA is talking about is real.

1558
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: But I've been in a lot. I've been on almost

1559
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 1: every major city this country has to offer, and Seattle

1560
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 1: is a low key Okay, I nasty, Canna ask you again, though,

1561
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 1: I get it when you guys are in the facility,

1562
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 1: But man, you can't monitor these guys when they're away

1563
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 1: from facility. So how do they do that? Well, the

1564
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: things they get done, I think guys just trusting one

1565
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 1: another and they know what they have to get done

1566
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 1: because it's about their livelihood too. If they can't play,

1567
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 1: it affects everybody. And also the Seahawks do a great

1568
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: job of letting family members get tested. If guys are

1569
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 1: gonna come in and be around, they do everything they

1570
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: can to make sure the players are safe and everyone

1571
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 1: around them has opportunities to get tested to make sure

1572
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 1: things those spread. So it's everybody, and honestly it's our guy.

1573
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: You have a great locker room, and it's accountability. They

1574
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: understand if I fight test positive, I'm out for ten days,

1575
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: fourteen days. No matter what, you don't get paid either

1576
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: you don't get put on. So there's a lot of

1577
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 1: the factors. So I think it's accountability. It's a little

1578
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: bit of luck because I'll just call it out. I mean,

1579
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: everything needs to go your way, but it's things that

1580
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: they're doing and start to the leadership from Pete to Rust,

1581
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 1: to Dwayne Brown to Bobby Wagner, and it just spreads

1582
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,600
Speaker 1: like wildfire. So shout out to the Seahawks organization. You

1583
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 1: know what it's like business. You read a business book,

1584
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: You and I, we could ten of us could read

1585
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 1: a business book, same one, but the results aren't say right,

1586
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: everybody's saying the same thing. It's just there's a leadership

1587
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,600
Speaker 1: top down. How they bought into it. I am so

1588
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 1: shocked that the Seahawks haven't had it, but I guess

1589
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: I'm not either, because it's just in process. One. I

1590
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: really want to get to Paul Moore before we get

1591
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 1: out of here. Why have the defenses caught up before? What?

1592
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: Early in the season, offenses everywhere are fifty points every game?

1593
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: What's going on? Oh my god, this is a new NFL.

1594
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: Now a defense says, sim it down. Now we've caught up.

1595
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: What do you see? Well? I think the whole ota.

1596
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: No no hitting anything certainly in advantage to the offenses,

1597
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 1: you know, just tackling, covering, all that stuff. I mean,

1598
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: there's it's like basketball, you know, if it's that's a

1599
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 1: repetitive deal, right, golf, I gotta go get a bunch

1600
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: of shots. And you didn't get that defensively. And so

1601
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 1: the X Andos won early on. Now it's been to me,

1602
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 1: it's caught up, you know, the defense said, Okay, we

1603
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 1: get it, or our techniques are where they are. I

1604
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: think the other one is I think they're finally called

1605
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: penalties again, and I don't like it. I actually defensive no, well,

1606
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 1: I hate I hate tikie tack uh flags. It really

1607
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 1: would not have influenced the play. Yeah, so why why

1608
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 1: we call him? Then a couple of them happen when

1609
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. I'm probably more biased there, but I'm starting

1610
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 1: to see more, you know, holding penalties, and so you know,

1611
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, all of a sudden they come up first

1612
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 1: and twenty, and that affects you. But I will say

1613
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 1: this early on the year, first and twenty might have

1614
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 1: been first and one for the Seahawks. Now first and

1615
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: twenty feels like first and twenty. I'm gonna tell you

1616
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 1: what happened. The Zebra's got in the room and they said, look, guys,

1617
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: we're not getting our love. I want to talk. I

1618
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 1: want to take my face mask down and tell everybody

1619
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: the penalty that happened and point out the guy who

1620
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 1: did it. So they needed some love real quick. What

1621
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: do you think could it be weather? I think weather

1622
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,879
Speaker 1: plays apart for sure, and I also think that defenses

1623
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 1: have a lot of film they're holing in on. Guys.

1624
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: I eat New York Giants versus Seahawks. They locked them down.

1625
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: All right, we'll cover them next. It's the end Paul

1626
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 1: Show recap. We'll give you our final thoughts right here

1627
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 1: on Hawkslide. Hawks Slide brought to you by Mac and

1628
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: Jack's Brewing Company every Thursday from seven to nine, live

1629
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:46,400
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1630
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 1: every Thursday, seven to nine. I'm Michael Bamba, sees Paul More.

1631
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: It's Loumfield. What Paul? What Paul said? I would you

1632
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: know what? I like to sell him? No? Quickly? All right? Hey,

1633
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 1: So first of all, I want I want to tell

1634
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: the people listening I was wrong Nowton has rushes of

1635
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,759
Speaker 1: twenty one, thirty eight, and nineteen out of a thousand

1636
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: rushes this year. So I was wrong three times out

1637
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 1: of a thought. Okay, so here's here's what I want

1638
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 1: you to do tonight, because this Hawks Live will be

1639
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 1: on a podcast, right, so I can go get on

1640
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:17,679
Speaker 1: seven ten ESPN and on the Seahawks website and also

1641
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 1: on the Seahawks app, so you can go listen to

1642
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: locks or Hawks Life. I want you to go play

1643
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:26,919
Speaker 1: that for your wife so she can hear you say

1644
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: I was wrong. Oh, I say that more than I should, Paul. Yeah,

1645
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 1: but that when you actually meant it, we will have

1646
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 1: much time here. Final thoughts about the Jets. Look, Paul,

1647
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: I look at the Jervis. I look at their defense. Yeah,

1648
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 1: and I don't see anybody who pops out. No, Hugh

1649
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 1: would has one hundred and three tackles. He's top ten.

1650
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 1: But when you're getting ran through like that, you're gonna

1651
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 1: have a bunch of tackles. I see Sam Donald, he

1652
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 1: has arm talent. Crowd is their number one receiver to us,

1653
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 1: He's he's demo, he's the number three receiver. I don't

1654
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 1: see him doing anything against us. Frank Gore is out

1655
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 1: with a concussion, got title Austin went for one hundred

1656
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: and four to touchdown against the Raiders. It still makes

1657
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 1: me nervous because they're hungry. They fired Greg Williams, they

1658
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:08,679
Speaker 1: got a new guy, Frank Bliss out there running it.

1659
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 1: It just makes me nervous. I think they're gonna win

1660
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:13,480
Speaker 1: the game, but I am a bit nervous. Yeah, winless

1661
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 1: team is just there's some pressure to it. Here's here's

1662
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 1: why there's no way we're gonna lose. Um. They're look,

1663
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 1: they're down to their third free safety McDougal is out

1664
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 1: of their backups, is doubtful for this week, so they've

1665
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: got no corners. They've they have twenty sacks this year,

1666
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: which it probably ranks thirty first. Almost every one of

1667
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: their statistics defensively in the passing game or thirties thirty first. Offensively,

1668
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 1: their thirty second yards game, thirty yards, thirty second yards

1669
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: per play, thirty second passing yards of game, thirty second,

1670
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 1: they're just not good. Um. But here's where it gets dangerous.

1671
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 1: There's one, there's some pressure for us to win certainly.

1672
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 1: The second is they do run the ball pretty well

1673
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: and they play really good run defense. If they run

1674
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 1: it well, and it's just all sudden the clock, they

1675
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: limit sessions. If we don't score, things get tight, and

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna win. You're reaffirming we gotta play why.

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Speaker 1: I'm just a bit nervous. I gotta play well. We

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Speaker 1: gotta play well every game. Let me ask you this

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Speaker 1: real quick. If we lose this game, can we still

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs? I don't know what the numbers look like.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no, though, I'm gonna say no because

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Speaker 1: I don't know the numbers. We're not well. Our producers

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Speaker 1: hop na. Well, here's the thing. I mean, yes, it

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Speaker 1: would be a horrible loss. So yes, they can still

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs. They would fall to eight and five.

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Speaker 1: They can still get their seven teams. They go to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs now, so they could still do it, but

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Speaker 1: it'd be really tough. You have to Washington football team.

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Speaker 1: You got the Rams, you got the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: to get some guys coming back. It's possible, but it

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Speaker 1: looks we can't. I don't like depending on other people

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Speaker 1: like that would have been. That would have been a

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Speaker 1: talk to talk one for sure. I've opened up too

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Speaker 1: many cams. But we're not losing this game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I watch a film and there's no question that. Look,

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Speaker 1: they're professionals. They're capable of winning their last four games.

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Speaker 1: They've played well. They should have won two of their

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Speaker 1: last four. They gave away last week to have to win.

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Speaker 1: We have to go play well every week. If we

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Speaker 1: play well, you know we're gonna double digit. You know,

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Speaker 1: win this game. Get her done, son, is what I'm

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Speaker 1: hearing from you, Paul Markers. All right, Well, special things

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Speaker 1: to Dan Leberfield, Ryan Neal, and John Clanton for joining

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Speaker 1: the show. Taurik our guy, and behind the scenes. The

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Speaker 1: Seahawk pregame show was live this Sunday from starting out

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Speaker 1: to the clock until next time. I'm your guy. Big

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Speaker 1: ups to NASA Schoby. This is Hawks Live. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next week.