1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: And you're here. Thanks for choosing the iHeartRadio and Coast 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: to Ghost, d A and Paranormal Podcast Network. Your quest for 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, and the unexplained ends here. 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: They invite you to enjoy all our shows we have 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: on this network, and right now, let's start with Chase 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: to Coast am employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 11 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Hi. 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: that our loved ones have survived physical debt, and so 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. I thought 19 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: today we'll just have a chat. We're together now, three 20 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 2: hundred plus episodes talking about life after death. It could 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 2: be new to the show or you've tuned in three 22 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: hundred plus times, But I just want to share from 23 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: my heart things that I think are so important. You 24 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: know how difficult life is as a human being. In fact, 25 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 2: I think it's set up that way. I wish it wasn't. 26 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: But out of the toughest times comes the greatest growth 27 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 2: for our souls. Of course, there's some good times thrown 28 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: in there as well, but it's tough, and when we 29 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: lose a loved one, grief is so devastating. So if 30 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: you were to ask me, just plain and simply, Sandra, 31 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: what are your top reasons to believe in the after 32 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: life and what helps you keep going? There are two 33 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: things I'd tell you, and then maybe a third that 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: just kind of keeps me plugged into reality. Verified near 35 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: death experiences or verritical they call them, and also deathbed visitations, 36 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: especially the verifiable ones. Those are my two top Now 37 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: we all know what near death experiences are, right, People 38 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: flatline see a light at the end of the tunnel. 39 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: Very often they see relatives or feel like they are 40 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: joined by a guide or a holy person. They have 41 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: a life review. They end up back in their bodies, 42 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: most of them forever changed with the message that life 43 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: is about going after our dreams, being loving, being forgiving, 44 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: being kind. But what vertical or verifiable near death experiences 45 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: are are when people bring back stories that they couldn't 46 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: have possibly known while they were out. Good examples of 47 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: this are the people that float above their body in 48 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: an operating room and they can tell everything that happened, 49 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: even the conversations that went on while they were out. 50 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: I always get a kick out of one lady who 51 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 2: saw a doctor with a huge red stain on his tie, 52 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: and sure enough, he had dropped spaghetti sauce on it. 53 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: Some of my favorites are like Omar Perez, who I 54 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: interviewed many moons ago. His daughter Layla is in spirit, 55 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: who had passed when she was just a few years old, 56 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: and he got very sick, was in a coma, had 57 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: a near death experience, saw his daughter Layla clearer than 58 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: he's ever seen anybody on earth, had a beautiful reunion, 59 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: But then their family dog showed up and off the 60 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: dog went with the daughter, so he thought it was 61 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: something symbolic. When he came out of the coma, he 62 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: found out that his poor dog had been put to 63 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: sleep while he was out now. He had no way 64 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: of knowing that, and the dog, of course, was in 65 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 2: his near death experience. Doctor ken Ring has studied near 66 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: death experiences with blind people, never ever having vision, and 67 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: yet while they flatlined, they can see. When lady rose 68 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: above her body was confused because she could see recognized 69 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: her wedding. Ring realized it was her and came back 70 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: talking about the instruments in the operating room the conversations 71 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: between the doctors. There was another story about a blind 72 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: lady never having vision at all, and in her near 73 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: death experience, she was able to witness the husband talking 74 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: to a doctor, the doctor dropping his pen, the husband 75 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: dropping down to the floor to pick up the pen, 76 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: and noticing that the doctor had two different colored socks on, 77 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,679 Speaker 2: and she could even see the socks. And of course, 78 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: wasn't the husband surprised when all that was accurate. There 79 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 2: are famous stories like the tennis shoe on the ledge, 80 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 2: when Lady Maria floated out of her body, left the 81 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: hospital altogether and noticed a blue tennis shoe exactly how 82 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 2: it was tied and where it was on the ledge 83 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 2: to see if this was true, and orderly climbed out 84 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: there and sure enough found the tennis shoe, and then 85 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: a clinically dead man had his dentures pulled out of 86 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: his mouth, and the nurse placed them in the bottom 87 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: drawer of a rolling cart, and he rose above his 88 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 2: body and witnessed the whole thing. When he came to 89 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: and no one could find his dentures, not only did 90 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 2: he know where the dentures were placed, but also the 91 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: serial number on the bottom of the rolling cart. There 92 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 2: was a patient named Jack who flat lined from pneumonia 93 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: and was stunned to see his favorite nurse, Anita on 94 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: the other side. Anita gave him the message that when 95 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: he returned to tell her parents she loved them and 96 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: that she was sorry she crashed the Red MGB. So 97 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: when Jack awoke and delivered the message, he found out 98 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: that his favorite nurse Anita had just died instantly a 99 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 2: few days before, after crashing a brand new Red MGB 100 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: car that her parents had gifted her for her birthday. 101 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 2: There are near death experience stories where people see loved 102 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: ones they never knew existed. A little boy saw a 103 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: great grandfather came back talking about pop pop, and when 104 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: he looked through the photo albums, he pointed out exactly 105 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: who it was that he saw. I know, my friend Steve, 106 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: before his dad passed away, he saw people that he 107 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: didn't know were dead because he was so sick. The 108 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: family didn't tell him that his friends passed away, but 109 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: he came back and he had seen those people. There 110 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 2: are billions of people living on planet Earth right now, 111 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: and I'm sure each one of us would have our 112 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: own way of describing life. There are so many near 113 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: death experiences and they're so different, but there are some 114 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: things that remain the same. And I'm inspired by these stories. 115 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: But the ones that really reminded me that our consciousness 116 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: lives on after death are these verifiable ones in these 117 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: three hundred plus episodes. There's hundreds of stories of near 118 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: death experiences. I know, but you have to realize you 119 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: have some great scientists and researchers and doctors Raymond Moody, 120 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Long, Bruce Grayson, and even doctor Melvin Moose studying 121 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: near death experiences of children who couldn't have possibly ever 122 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: heard of these experiences and little kids. One boy described 123 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: the tunnel as a huge noodle, but he corrected himself, 124 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: saying it couldn't have been a noodle because a noodle 125 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: doesn't have a rainbow in it. Even kids are greeted 126 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: by loved ones and pets. And speaking of pets, let's 127 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: talk little bit about my other top reason to believe 128 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: in the afterlife. And these are the visitors that greet 129 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: us and take us home as we pass into spirit 130 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: deathbed visitations. It's a miraculous universe, really, and when you 131 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: think of it, even how we get conceived and are born, 132 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: and that we have all the DNA to grow into 133 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: intelligent adults is pretty amazing. Right. If we get a 134 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: cut on our hand, our body knows what to do 135 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: when it heals, so why wouldn't it know what to 136 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: do when we die or when our bodies die. That 137 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: is my favorite researcher on deathbed visitations is doctor Christopher Kerr, 138 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: a palliative care hospice doctor who's researched and studied over 139 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: sixteen hundred people. As they pass and in the weeks, days, 140 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: maybe even a month before people pass, they begin to 141 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 2: have dreams of loved ones, sometimes angels, and pets appearing 142 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: even more real than real by their bedside. We've heard 143 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: these stories like Steve Jobs who looked over his sister's 144 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: shoulder and said, oh wow, oh wow, oh wow. Just 145 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: before he passed, or a little boy looked into the 146 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: corner of the room and named three boys that were playing. 147 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: They were invisible to everyone else, but after he passed, 148 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: the hospice staff told the family those were the three 149 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: boys who had also passed in the room just prior 150 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: to this boy being there. It's good news. Nobody dies alone. 151 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: And if you have a chance, check out doctor Kerr's 152 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: book and film Death Is But a Dream. Some of 153 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: my favorite stories include verifiable ones. Here's the story of Eddie, 154 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: who is dying in the hospital. His best friend Andy 155 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: had died in a car crash the day before, but 156 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: the family hid it from him, not wanting to upse 157 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: at him. But just before he passed, he said, Mom, 158 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: I just saw Andy, But why is he here? Is 159 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: he supposed to be at work today. Eddie died a 160 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: few hours later with a huge smile on his face 161 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: because Andy was with him. Little kids have had these 162 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: deathbed visitations. Also, a five year old boy with advanced 163 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 2: brain cancer hadn't been responsive for about two weeks when 164 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: he suddenly opened his eyes. He told his mother not 165 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: to cry because he was going with Grandma, who was 166 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: there waiting for him with Max, and Max was the 167 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 2: family's golden Retriever dog who had died when this boy 168 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: was only a baby. The boy described Grandma's yellow dress 169 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: and said, Max is wagging his tail so fast. And 170 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 2: then a little girl who was in a deep coma 171 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: like state, suddenly sat straight up and announced that her 172 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: aunt Lisa, who had died just a couple of years before, 173 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: was there waiting for her. Wearing a red scarf. She 174 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: reached out to pet her cat Whiskers, who was purring 175 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: so loud, who Aunt Lisa had brought with her. There 176 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: are thousands of stories of deathbed visitations, and I know 177 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 2: that not just in our dying moments where we have 178 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: people coming to help us across the veil, but there 179 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: are biggest cheerleaders right now. You know, as I sit 180 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 2: here sharing these thoughts with you, I realize there's more 181 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: evidence before we continue. I don't want to rush this. 182 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: I know I was a skeptic. You may be too, 183 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: and being skeptical is really a good thing. Here are 184 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: a few more documented cases that prove that although our 185 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: bodies die, we do not. These are more of the 186 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 2: verifiable or vertical cases that the skeptical mind just can't 187 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: argue with. There's a famous case of a woman named 188 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: Pam Reynolds who underwent a complex mega out surgery. She 189 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: had a dangerous aneurysm in her brain. It was such 190 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: a delicate operation that they had to lower her body temperature, 191 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 2: stop her heart from beating, and drain the blood from 192 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: her head. This poor girl was clinically dead. Her physical 193 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 2: eyes were taped shut. She had molded speaker ear plugs 194 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: placed deep inside her ear canals, which were broadcasting a 195 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: really loud click click click to monitor her brain stem activity, 196 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: and her brain waves were completely flat. Yet the moment 197 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: her heart stopped, Pam instantly found herself floating outside of 198 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 2: her body, hovering just beneath the ceiling of the operating room. 199 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: She looked down she saw her body lying on the table. 200 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: Time to take a quick break, but we'll be right back. 201 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio 202 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 2: and Coast to Coast a m paranormal on Cast Network. 203 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. 204 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 2: I was just telling you about Pam Reynolds, who had 205 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: to undergo a operation in her brain. The blood was 206 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: drained from her brain. They had earphones in her ears 207 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: with this loud click click click noise, and they had 208 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: a strange looking instrument that was actually a bone saw 209 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 2: that looked like an electric toothbrush. But she floated above 210 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: her body. Let's continue. She looked down. She saw her 211 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: body lying on the table, surrounded by the team of doctors, 212 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: but instead of focusing on her body, her consciousness was 213 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: drawn to the very weird, unusual instruments that the surgeon 214 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: was using. She noticed a very specific bone saw that 215 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: looked exactly like an electric toothbrush, complete with a tiny 216 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: interchangeable blade. She watched as the female nurse complained about 217 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: the size of a surgical line, and she even observed 218 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: the doctor with a piece of medical gauze. But Pam's 219 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: consciousness didn't stay locked inside that operating room. She felt 220 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: herself effortlessly glide right through the concrete wall of the 221 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: hospital and out into the open air. Moments later, after 222 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: a beautiful journey into a realm of pure golden light 223 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: where she was met with unconditional love, Pam was resuscitated 224 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: and her consciousness jumped right back into her physical body. 225 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: While resting in the recovery room, she told her skeptical 226 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: nursing staff about the bone saw that looked like a toothbrush, 227 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: and the surgeon later confirmed that the highly specialized bone 228 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: saw she described was an exact match for a brand 229 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: new tool they had used for the very first time 230 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: that morning. Pam Reynolds's physical brain was turned off, yet 231 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: her soul was completely free and in the near death 232 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: experiences of young children. This story is about a seven 233 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: year old girl named Katie who drowned in a hotel 234 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: swimming pool, and by the time they pulled her out, 235 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: she had flatlined with no brainstem reflexes. Her little lungs 236 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,359 Speaker 2: were filled with water, and she was kept alive strictly 237 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: by mechanical life support. While the doctors were predicting that 238 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: she would either pass away or remain in a vegetative state, 239 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: Katie suddenly opened her eyes and made an instantaneous, miraculous recovery. 240 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: When she was stable enough to talk to her mother 241 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: and her doctors, she explained that the moment her body 242 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: was underwater, she was met by an incredibly loving woman 243 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: named Elizabeth, who took her by the hand and guided 244 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: her up into a garden filled with beautiful flowers and 245 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: a warm, gentle light. But what completely blew the minds 246 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: of the medical staff was what Katie did next. Innocently, 247 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: she looked at her doctor and accurately described the exact 248 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: color and pattern of the clothing he was wearing when 249 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: he first arrived at the hospital, long before he changed 250 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: into his green surgical scrubs. She also described the specific 251 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: tools they used to pump the water out of her lungs, 252 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: and even detailed the exact physical posture her mother was 253 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: in while sitting alone, crying in a private hospital waiting 254 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: room down the hall. Of course, Katie had no way 255 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: of knowing these things. Her physical eyes were filled with 256 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 2: pool water and closed, her brain was flat lined, yet 257 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: her soul was free. And let's talk about David, who 258 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: suffered a sudden heart attack while working in his garage. 259 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: His wife found him unresponsive, called emergency services, and began 260 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: the chest compressions. By the time the paramedics had arrived, 261 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 2: David had flatlined for over ten minutes. While the medical 262 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: team was in the driveway, David left his body and 263 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 2: felt himself floating above the garage roof. He looked down 264 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 2: and saw his wife crying, holding her hands together. But 265 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 2: then inside the house, he saw his teenage daughter run 266 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 2: into the master bedroom. She was hunting for her mother's 267 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: diamond engagement ring, a ring David had tucked away in 268 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: a hidden velvet pouch at the very back of a 269 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 2: top closet shelf just days earlier. David was able to 270 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: watch while out of his body as his daughter accidentally 271 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: knocked a stack of old shoe boxes over, found the 272 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: pouch and slipped the ring onto her finger to keep 273 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: it safe. Moments later, David was drawn into an expansive 274 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: hallway of pure divine light. Standing there to greet him 275 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 2: was his own father, who had passed away unexpectedly when 276 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 2: David was just a teenager. His father looked young, healthy, whole, 277 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 2: and no sign of the illness that had taken his life. 278 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: He gave David a tight hug and said telepathically, you 279 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 2: have done a magnificent job with your family, son, but 280 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: your work isn't done yet. You need to go back 281 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: and finish your journey. The very second his heart was resuscitated, 282 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: he opened his eyes when he finally saw his daughter, 283 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: and before she could say a sink word, David whispered, 284 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: I saw you in the closet. The diamond ring is 285 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: safe on your finger, but you need to go back 286 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 2: and clean up those boxes you knocked on the floor. 287 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: His daughter completely froz, not having a clue how her 288 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 2: father knew that information. Friends, when we stack up all 289 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: this information, whether it's a blue shoe or a little 290 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: girl describing medical instruments, or a spaghetti stain on a tie, 291 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 2: or our pets waiting for us and beautiful fields of light, 292 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 2: we have to recognize this incredible truth. This world that 293 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 2: we live in right now, with all of our traffic 294 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 2: and bills and stresses, this life is the illusion the 295 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: after life, or our life after this life is our 296 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 2: permanent home. We are divine, eternal beings who have stepped 297 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: into these temporary physical space suits of a kind, here 298 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: to choose love and experiences even when our human conditions 299 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: get difficult. A little trick, when life gets a little 300 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: too busy and our emotions run high, just take a 301 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: couple of long, deep, slow breaths, feet on the floor, 302 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: let go of that busy mind, and just get curious 303 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: about how you feel right now. Any anxiety in your 304 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 2: chest or tightness in your jaw. Just let it go. 305 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: Your loved ones are not gone. I promise you that 306 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: they're right here, occupying the very same space you and 307 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 2: I are. So those are my very top reasons to 308 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: believe that keep me going, and I might throw in 309 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: some more as we continue to talk today. But I 310 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 2: didn't start out as any kind of guru or spiritual teacher. 311 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: You know. I was a professional chef for race car teams. 312 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 2: I never intended to be the host of Shades of 313 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: the afterlife or even believe in the afterlife. I was 314 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 2: a terrified skeptic. I thought all of this stuff was 315 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: too good to be true. You know how they say, 316 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: if something seems too good to be true, it probably is. 317 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: But I was overcome by a fear of dying that 318 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: made me go on a journey to look for proof 319 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: of the afterlife, and I never intended to tell anybody 320 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: about it. One of the first things I did was 321 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: take a class in mediumship. I had seen a woman 322 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 2: do a stage show, and originally I thought it was 323 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: fixed that there would be plants in the audience, but 324 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: I quickly realized that the evidence she brought people was 325 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 2: so specific and how it moved them to tears that 326 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: it couldn't be made up. So I took a weekend 327 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: course in mediumship. Crazy girl that I am, flew out 328 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 2: to California, and with a small group of people, had 329 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: my very first experiences. I always thought, if mediumship was real, 330 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 2: you had to be gifted. So many years later, I 331 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: know just by being a human being, we all have 332 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 2: the capacity to do it. But just like playing a piano, 333 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: some people are gifted and some people practice practice practice. 334 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: But there I was in this group of people that 335 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 2: I didn't know, and the instructor told us some of 336 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 2: the basics. So we were going to do a practice run. 337 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: She had everybody sit ny to knee with the partner. 338 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 2: Imagine big bubble of white, sparkly light, and to imagine 339 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: that there was somebody in spirit standing behind our partner. 340 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: Because for me this was just an exercise, we weren't 341 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: really doing it. I decided, Okay, I can make up somebody. 342 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 2: I'm creative enough. So behind this woman I just pictured 343 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: a man. I got the name Yon that it was 344 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 2: her grandfather, a fisherman in Denmark. I saw him puffing 345 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 2: on a cigarette and coughing, and that he died of 346 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: lung cancer. So with my eyes closed. I'm delivering this 347 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 2: information and there's always a message that comes through at 348 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 2: the end for the person. And I said, and he 349 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: wants you to tell your mother that he loves her. 350 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 2: And I described the fact that this guy never hugged 351 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: her mom or told her he loved her. So when 352 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: I opened my eye saying Okay, your turn to go, 353 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: the woman was crying because her grandfather's name was Yon. 354 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: He was a fisherman in Dead Mark. All the details matched, 355 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: especially the message. Of course, my journey now is over 356 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: twenty five years and many things happened. But another pivotal 357 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: thing happened when I started getting into EVP electronic voice phenomena. 358 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 2: I took a weekend course hoping that I could somehow 359 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: prove the existence of the afterlife, not just what came 360 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: out of my mind from medium readings. And here's the thing, 361 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: loved ones in spirit plant images and thoughts and feelings 362 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: and memories and sounds in the same place that our 363 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 2: imagination lives. So it's hard to distinguish what's our imagination 364 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 2: and what's truly them. So I was looking for something 365 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: more tangible or audible in this case. So there I 366 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: was at a retreat center, learning how loved ones in 367 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 2: spirit can rearrange sounds on a tape recorder into voices. 368 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: And one evening I went back to my little cottage, 369 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: which was raining outside. I did the practice of inviting 370 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: my loved ones in spirit into the room with me, 371 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 2: imagining a safe space filled with energy, and I said, 372 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: if you guys are here and this is real and 373 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: I meant to help people believe in the afterlife, I 374 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: need you to speak very loud and then I'll say 375 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 2: good night. When I played it back, it said good night, 376 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: Sandra in a man's voice, two women whisper good night, 377 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: good night, and then another male's voice said good night. 378 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 2: That is something to take me from a hope to 379 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 2: a faith, to a belief, to knowing the afterlife is real. 380 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: Of course, I was a little freaked out thinking that 381 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: I had no privacy and people in the afterlife were 382 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: all around me all the time. But please rest assured, 383 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: you get your privacy. But they are our biggest cheerleaders. 384 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 2: But this made me want more, so I kept up 385 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: my silent investigation. I didn't come forward with it until 386 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: I experienced my own deep grief, and that was my 387 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: dad getting ill. And passing away. Let's take a quick 388 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 2: break and we will be right back. You're listening to 389 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 390 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of 391 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlaine. Let me continue with the 392 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: story of my dad. I remember before he passed I 393 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 2: was having a conversation with him, and Dad was very Catholic. 394 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 2: He went to Mass every single day, and I was 395 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: so afraid to tell him that I was studying the 396 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 2: afterlife and mediumship and recording voices, etc. But I had 397 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: the guts to finally share with him because I loved 398 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 2: my dad and I didn't want there to be any secrets. 399 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: And just as I was sharing, I got the vision 400 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 2: in my mind of a yellow Piper cub airplane, a 401 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 2: taildragger there called with black letters on it, and I 402 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 2: felt that there was a man laughing beside me, saying, 403 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 2: tell your dad, I did get to bring my toys 404 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 2: with me. So I explained what I felt and heard 405 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 2: to my dad and his eyes filled with tears. He 406 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 2: had a friend named Jim who was dying of cancer, 407 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: and my dad said, Jim you got to beat this. 408 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: You can't bring your toys with you. And guess what 409 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: toy we're talking about. Jim flew a yellow Piper cub 410 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 2: airplane with black letters. That time around Dad's death was 411 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 2: really difficult. In fact, all kinds of fights and commotion 412 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 2: happened between me and my siblings in relationship fell apart. 413 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: But before Dad died, he wanted to know everything, and 414 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: he made me promise that i'd write a book, so 415 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: thankfully I eventually did, which is Now We Don't Die, 416 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: a skeptics Discovery of Life after Death. But the real 417 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: reason I wanted it out there was because after Dad died, 418 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 2: I did some heavy duty research into grief, why we grieve, 419 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: why it hurts so bad, why good people fight and 420 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: have arguments about things that didn't even happen. In reality, 421 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: I realized that our brains are sick when we're grieving. 422 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: That we function on things called neurotransmitters. You've heard of them, serotonin, dopamine, etc. 423 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: They get depleted when we grieve, so our brains aren't healthy. 424 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: I always compare it to someone who's been taken off 425 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: a drug that they're addicted to. They go through withdrawal. 426 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 2: And their brain isn't healthy and it takes time to restore. 427 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 2: The same thing holds true with grief. When we love 428 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 2: someone and that's taken away, we can often go to 429 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 2: a very dark place. So if you don't have a 430 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 2: copy of my book, Chapter ten is How to Survive Grief, 431 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 2: I'll tell you how to get a free copy at 432 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 2: the end if you don't already have one. People who 433 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 2: read the book told me they chose not to commit 434 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 2: suicide because of my words and friends. That's all it 435 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: took for me to decide to be on loudspeaker about 436 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: my afterlife journey and try to get to the most 437 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 2: eyes and ears and hearts as possible as regular listeners know. 438 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 2: There's many reasons to believe in the afterlife, and I 439 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 2: can't get to them all today. But when we really 440 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: start doubting that it's possible that the afterlife is real, 441 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: there's a couple things that remind me that why not, 442 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: And they take place in the quantum level. The fact 443 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: that energy is all around us, and two or more 444 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 2: forms of energy can be in the same place at 445 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: the same time. So wherever you are right now, there 446 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: could be invisible radio waves and TVs signals and GPS signals, 447 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 2: your wi fis all around. It's invisible to our eyes, 448 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: but it's very real. I say, our loved ones are 449 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: in that same space, just vibrating a little too quick 450 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: for us to see or feel. But when mediums work 451 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: with our loved ones, it's as if they're in the 452 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: same room, right there with us, because they are. And 453 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: when I say vibrating, we are just vibrating energy ourselves. 454 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: In fact, I think it's an illusion that we are 455 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: human beings because if we were to put a teeny 456 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 2: tiny camera in one of the atoms that make us up, 457 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: you know what, it would see nothing. Down to our 458 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: tiniest particle, which I think is called a quark, all 459 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: we are is invisible, vibrating energy. And if you really 460 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: want to think outside the box, think you and I 461 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 2: are on this planet Earth hurling around an ever expanding universe. 462 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 2: If that's possible, why can't anything be possible? Now, many 463 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: people know the term EVP electronic voice phenomena, but I 464 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: also talk a lot about ITC and ADC's and induced ADC's. 465 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 2: What are these acronyms all about, Sandra, Well, ITC is 466 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: instrumental trans communication researchers are using modern technology to capture 467 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 2: actual physical images and voices. People record steam smoke TV 468 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: channel on one of those static channels, and going through 469 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: the frames, there can be pictures of people who are 470 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: no longer living. One of my favorite is researchers Sonia Ronaldi, 471 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: who's taken thousands of these images, donating her time to 472 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: helping grieving parents. I remember when I first met Sonia. 473 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: I said to my dad in spirit, I said, Dad, 474 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 2: if you can go to Brazil and do whatever it 475 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: takes to get your face on one of these ladies images, 476 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 2: please try. And it was several months later. I became 477 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: friends with Sonya and she sent me a file of 478 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: unknowns pictures of people in spirit. One of those pictures 479 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 2: was a picture of my dad. In the picture of 480 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 2: my dad, he's in his twenties with a similar expression 481 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: that he had in a photo when he was in 482 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: the US Air Force. And Dad died when he was 483 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: seventy four, hooked up to machinery, not looking too good. 484 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: And it's a beautiful picture and very clear and confirms 485 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 2: that we get to be young and healthy in the afterlife. 486 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: We made a movie about Sonia and you can see 487 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 2: that on my website. ADC's stand for after death communications 488 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 2: and these can be the signs, the dreams, the visitations 489 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:55,239 Speaker 2: from loved ones. Induced after death communication is actually a 490 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: therapy that was pioneered by the late doctor Alan Botkin 491 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: and currently being practiced by doctor Tom Nemi in Australia 492 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: and other practitioners around the world. It is a therapy 493 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 2: that uses EMDR, which is an eye movement therapy to 494 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: clear the brain's trauma pathways. For instance, doctor Allan Botkin 495 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: first learned of this by doing these eye movements to 496 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: a veteran who was suffering greatly from post traumatic stress PTSD. 497 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: And it's a painful experience to recall the memories that 498 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 2: bring so much pain while having your eyes look back 499 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 2: and forth, left and right. But after a little extra 500 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: eye movement, doctor Botkin realized that people could see into 501 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: the afterlife. I had my own experience via zoom with 502 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 2: doctor Nemi in Australia and me being in my home 503 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 2: in New England here in the United States, reliving the 504 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: most painful memories of my dad's death while watching a 505 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 2: little ball going left to right on my screen. IADC 506 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 2: therapy is only to be used by licensed professional therapists, 507 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: but done properly, over seventy five percent of people feel 508 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 2: the presence of their loved one. And for me, not 509 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 2: only did I feel my dad standing behind me with 510 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 2: his hand on my shoulder, I got slideshow images of 511 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: loved ones who had passed, looking healthy and well. And 512 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: the extra bonus is that, like the veterans, recalling painful 513 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 2: memories from my past, no longer bring those painful emotions. 514 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 2: You know. In this world of EVPs, iADCs, ADC's NDEs, 515 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: there's also SD which stands for shared death experience. Doctor 516 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: Raymond Moody and William Peters do a lot of research 517 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 2: on this, and a shared death experience can be when 518 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 2: you are with a loved one and you actually see 519 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,959 Speaker 2: what's happening when they're dying. You see the tunnel, you 520 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 2: see the light, You see loved ones reaching out their hands. 521 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 2: Some people experience a staircase, but they can only go 522 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 2: so far and they have to turn back. Their loved 523 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: one passes and they witnessed it from the inside out. 524 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 2: Shared death experiences can also mean when you know someone 525 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: has passed even though you are far away from them. 526 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 2: Let me tell you a couple of stories. A woman 527 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 2: named Sarah lived in New York. One night, she had 528 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: a super vivid real dream that her brother, who was 529 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: living across the country in California, walked into her bedroom. 530 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 2: He looked young, healthy, happy. He went right up to 531 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,919 Speaker 2: the right side of her bed, leaned down and gave 532 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: her a little kiss on the forehead and said, don't 533 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: worry about me, Sis, I'm completely free now, and I 534 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 2: love you. Sarah jolted awake from this super real dream. 535 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: She was sweating, her heart was pounding. She rolled over 536 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: and looked at her alarm clock. It read three fourteen am. 537 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 2: Later that morning, her phone rang. It was her sister crying, 538 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 2: calling to tell her that their brother had unexpectedly died 539 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: of a massive heart attack. Sarah asked the question, what 540 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 2: time did he pass Her sister whispered, it happened after 541 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 2: midnight our time, which means it was exactly three fourteen 542 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,959 Speaker 2: am where you are. Sarah had written the time down 543 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 2: on her notepad to confirm her brother's soul had traveled 544 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 2: across three time zones in an instant to kiss her 545 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 2: goodbye and let her know that he was okay. Here's 546 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 2: the story of a man named Michael Well. Michael's grandmother 547 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 2: had been resting in a hospital and the family was 548 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 2: told that she was doing fine. But in the middle 549 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 2: of the night, Michael was pulled into a dream state 550 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 2: that felt more real than his waking life. His grandmother 551 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 2: appeared standing right in front of him, looking great, of course, 552 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 2: looking young and free of the old age and sickness 553 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 2: that had slowed her down. She smiled, waved a happy goodbye, 554 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 2: and said, I have to go now, Michael, take care 555 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 2: of your mother. Michael woke up, sitting straight up in bed, 556 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 2: reached for his watch and saw that it was two 557 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 2: twenty two am. He had that gut instinct that something happened. 558 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 2: The next morning, the hospital called the family to break 559 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 2: the news that the grandmother had passed away. When Michael 560 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 2: asked the doctor for the precise time of her death, 561 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 2: the doctor looked at the medical chart and said her 562 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 2: heart stopped at two twenty two a m. I just 563 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 2: love those stories, don't you. Next. A lot of people 564 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 2: think that having a medium reading is a great thing 565 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 2: to do. 566 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: Well. 567 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 2: What do I say about that? I say yes and no. 568 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 2: I say no, because it doesn't take any training to 569 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 2: call yourself a medium. My mom often says, what do 570 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 2: you call the person who graduated last in their class 571 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 2: from medical school? And the answer doctor. At least we 572 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 2: trust that doctors go to school to get their title. 573 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 2: But anyone can call themselves a medium, and unfortunately there's 574 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 2: a lot of people out there calling themselves a medium 575 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 2: that aren't good. Don't go anywhere, We'll be right back. 576 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 2: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio 577 00:37:43,800 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back 578 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 2: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. I was 579 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 2: just talking about mediums. Unfortunately, people who call themselves mediums 580 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: don't need any training. But as I know from my 581 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 2: first medium experience, with proper training and practice, we can 582 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 2: slow down, get into that present moment and differentiate what 583 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 2: is our imagination and what is coming through from spirit. 584 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 2: If you're looking for a medium reading, it should be 585 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 2: a price you're comfortable paying. It's best if someone you 586 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 2: know recommends them and they're highly rated, and always make 587 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,919 Speaker 2: sure the medium offers a ten minute guarantee. The good 588 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 2: ones will if in the first ten minutes of the 589 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 2: reading they don't give you accurate information about your loved 590 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 2: one in spirit. You can call the reading to an 591 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 2: end you don't pay. You can reschedule if you wish. 592 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 2: The ten minute guarantee simply means that you're not obligated 593 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 2: to pay or continue the reading if you aren't getting 594 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 2: solid information, and like tuning into a radio station, sometimes 595 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 2: it's tough. We all have a different vibration and maybe 596 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 2: that medium's just not for you. But the good ones 597 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 2: they will always offer you a guarantee. There are things 598 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 2: we can do to connect with our loved ones, by 599 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 2: the way, and it's nice to get verifiable information from 600 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 2: a medium. It absolutely is. However, our loved ones don't 601 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 2: just appear when you go to a medium reading. They 602 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 2: are our biggest cheerleaders. They are by our side, they're 603 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 2: comforting us, they're wiping our tears. So here are a 604 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 2: few tips of feeling the presence of your loved ones. 605 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 2: Very simply. You can sit quietly in a chair and 606 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 2: ask your loved one to come close, have them put 607 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 2: their hand on your arm or kiss your cheek in 608 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 2: just sense. If there's any changes, you might get goosebumps 609 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 2: on one side of your body. Remember there's no special 610 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,720 Speaker 2: instructions in spirit as to how all of this works. 611 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 2: So as you're practicing with your loved one, your loved 612 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 2: one is practicing with you, So give it time. On 613 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,959 Speaker 2: one episode, doctor Janet Pete Alato talks about the dream gate. 614 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 2: You know that place when you're waking up in the 615 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 2: morning or just before you go to bed at night. 616 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,919 Speaker 2: You're not quite there, but you're not quite here. Well, 617 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 2: we can envision a gate and have our loved one 618 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 2: on the other side of it. It's almost like inducing 619 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 2: a day dream. But in that space, our loved ones 620 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: could give us information. We can hug them, we can 621 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 2: talk to them, we can hold them. And of course 622 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 2: everything I talk about today I go into detail in 623 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 2: past episodes, so you can scroll down the list and 624 00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 2: find my interview with her. Automatic writing or channeled writing 625 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 2: or inspired writing, whatever you want to call it. Psychology 626 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 2: Professor doctor Matthew McKay speaks it so clearly. Have a 627 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 2: picture of your loved one in front of you, or 628 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 2: hold an object that belonged to them. If you want 629 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,720 Speaker 2: to light a candle, concentrate on it. Take ten deep 630 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 2: cleansing breaths. Imagine an orb of light going from your 631 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 2: mind and connecting to them in spirit, having a journal 632 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 2: right there with you and talking to them, asking them 633 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 2: questions and answering as if you're answering for them or 634 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 2: they're writing through your hand. You can do it on 635 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 2: paper with a pen or on the computer. And I 636 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 2: know that busy mind of ours likes to say, we're 637 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 2: making this up. This is all our imagination. But in time, 638 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 2: with your practice and your loved one's practice on the 639 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 2: other side, you'll realize more and more words are coming 640 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 2: out coming from them. Recently I interviewed a nice gal 641 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 2: named j Essica who uses the fourth step framework love, Confide, ask, 642 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 2: and listen. She says, to take a walk down memory 643 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 2: lane and really generate that feeling of love that you 644 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 2: have for your loved one as many memories, happy, laughter, 645 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,479 Speaker 2: loving as you can. And when you're feeling that love, 646 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,240 Speaker 2: confide in them. Just talk to them, whether you're talking 647 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 2: out loud in your mind or writing it down. Share 648 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,439 Speaker 2: your thoughts, your worries, your feelings, confide. You can ask 649 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 2: them questions, you can ask for help in your life, 650 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 2: you can ask them what they're doing. And the last 651 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 2: step is just listen, be present and see what comes back. 652 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,720 Speaker 2: This is where signs come in because we can ask 653 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 2: for signs and pay attention. We humans are so busy multitasking, 654 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,919 Speaker 2: aren't we busy doing one thing but keeping our eye 655 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 2: out on our phone in case there's a text message, 656 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 2: Always thinking about the future or doing about something in 657 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 2: the past. These signs come in in the present moment, 658 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 2: so work to slow down. There's a practice called sitting 659 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 2: in the power. And this is like plugging in your 660 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 2: spiritual battery. You know our cell phones won't work when 661 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 2: we don't plug them in, right, So if we can 662 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 2: quiet our mind, and I like to imagine there's a 663 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 2: little spark of bright light in my belly that grows 664 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 2: brighter and brighter and brighter, and soon it's so bright 665 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,720 Speaker 2: it comes out my pores. Then I imagine the sun, 666 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 2: whether you call that God or spirit or the universe, 667 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 2: and those two lights blend, and then I just take 668 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 2: quiet breaths, try to stay present to that spiritual recharge. 669 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 2: I know my loved ones like to do these drop ins, 670 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 2: like a photobomb. I could be busy editing an episode 671 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 2: of the podcast, and all of a sudden, out of 672 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 2: the blue, I get a memory of dancing with a 673 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 2: friend in Mexico, that friend who is now in spirit, 674 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 2: or a memory of going on a camping trip with 675 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 2: my dad. Out of the blue, they just show up. 676 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 2: Those are those little drop ins that say I'm right 677 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 2: here with you. You might wonder what the afterlife is 678 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 2: really like, and I think it is very much like 679 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 2: planet Earth. And I say, just without the bugs, without 680 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 2: the negativity. It's beautiful. There's colors that we can't even imagine. 681 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 2: There's sounds and music that we can't even imagine. There's 682 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 2: concerts going on. We are young, healthy, whole. We get 683 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 2: to pick our best age. If we wear glasses, we 684 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 2: don't need them anymore. We communicate telepathically with our thoughts. 685 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 2: Our vision is like omnimax three hundred and sixty degrees. 686 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 2: We can see everything. Everything is alive. It's comfortable to 687 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 2: get there because it feels like planet Earth. We can 688 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 2: create houses, we can go to work, we can go 689 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 2: to a place called the Halls of Learning, to experience 690 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 2: anything we've missed out on in our earthly lives. Even 691 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 2: if you didn't find love here on Earth, you could 692 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 2: have the greatest romance of your life in the afterlife. 693 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 2: They say there is food and drink if we want it, 694 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 2: but again it's something we create in our minds. I 695 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 2: know from this point of view here on earth it 696 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 2: is so painful. I watched my dad die a very 697 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 2: painful death from cancer, and I know many have seen 698 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 2: their loved ones pass in terrible ways. But it is 699 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 2: said that we can leave our bodies even before our 700 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 2: bodies physically pass away, so they don't feel that pain 701 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 2: and they have no memory of it. From the other side, 702 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 2: there's a greeting committee for all of us. No one 703 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,760 Speaker 2: dies alone. People show up, like I said at the beginning, 704 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 2: our deathbed, visitors and pets and even angels who are 705 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 2: there to take us home. Children can grow up on 706 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 2: the other side, but they can be just the way 707 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 2: you remember them when it's your time to go. There's 708 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 2: a famous poem called the Rainbow Bridge about pets that 709 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 2: when they pass they're young and healthy, but when it's 710 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 2: our time to return home, they meet us at the bridge. 711 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 2: Their tails are wagging and we're reunited with them. For 712 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 2: our loved ones here on earth, it is a tough 713 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 2: time to watch someone pass. And I know people that 714 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 2: have pictures of their loved ones in every room of 715 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 2: their house, and they include them in everything, keep talking 716 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,720 Speaker 2: to them. They are with you and very much still alive. 717 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 2: I know life can be difficult and there's so much pain, 718 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,280 Speaker 2: but I want you to know that we human beings 719 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 2: have three core fears. One is being alone, one is failing, 720 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 2: and one is death. We are never alone. Yes, you 721 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 2: have your privacy when you need it, but we're surrounded 722 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,879 Speaker 2: by our loved ones who know how hard life is, 723 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 2: and they are our biggest cheerleaders. We can go after 724 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 2: our dreams and we can fail, because failure isn't real. 725 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 2: It's all an experience. And you know those famous inventors 726 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 2: who needed to fail many times before they succeeded. Just 727 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 2: by playing this game of life, you are a winner. 728 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 2: And the fear of death. While we never truly die, 729 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,359 Speaker 2: we will close our eyes after one last outbreath here 730 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 2: on earth, and we open our eyes and we're surrounded 731 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 2: by our loved ones, our guides, our pets, and a 732 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 2: land that makes this life seem like it was just 733 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 2: a dream. As we close out our episode today. The 734 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 2: third thing I didn't mention earlier that keeps me going 735 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 2: was our demonstrations of trance mediumship that we hold very 736 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 2: often on a Friday. There are different forms of mediumship, 737 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 2: including evidential and trance and healing and physical, but it 738 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 2: is possible to get into the zone and allow inspiring 739 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 2: words from someone who has passed to speak through us. 740 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 2: So on those Fridays, I've had hundreds of hours of 741 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,799 Speaker 2: conversations with the friend and spirit mister Eric. Many of 742 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 2: you have heard him on Shades of the Afterlife. You 743 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 2: can ask any question at all and you'll hear some 744 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 2: profound words from Spirit. We put the book together conversations 745 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 2: with Eric, and if you're new to the show, come 746 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 2: visit me at wedodie dot com. At the bottom of 747 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 2: the page you can enter your name and email address 748 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 2: get a free copy of my book, We Don't Die Remember. 749 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 2: Chapter ten is how to Survive Grief, and if you're 750 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:41,319 Speaker 2: going through a tough time, please read that. Also on Sundays, 751 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 2: eleven am Pacific time, two pm Eastern seven pm UK time, 752 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:51,720 Speaker 2: we do what's called a free Sunday Gathering inspirational service. 753 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 2: We get about one hundred and fifty people from around 754 00:48:55,080 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 2: the world there on Zoom with music empowerment. The last 755 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 2: staff is a medium demonstration, so we get to see 756 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 2: just how close our loved ones really are so. If 757 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 2: you are a long time listener or brand new to 758 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 2: the show, thank you for being here, Thank you for 759 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 2: being open to this conversation. Please know you are never 760 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 2: alone and you are dearly loved just as you are. 761 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 2: I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you so much for listening to 762 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 2: Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 763 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 2: Coast am Hairinormal podcast Network. 764 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,839 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost 765 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,879 Speaker 1: Day and Paranormal podcast Network. Make sure and check out 766 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going 767 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 1: to iHeartRadio dot com.