Speaker 1: What's that at the bed spooky?
Speaker 2: Hey, Judy, I'm really sure it's dead. He's coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I us nandaz.
Speaker 3: Plase.
Speaker 2: Hey boo, it's me Ro's. Welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez.
Speaker 2: I'm Roz Hernandez. I talk to people that I find interesting,
Speaker 2: funny and cool about ghosts, aliens, bigfoot, all kinds of
Speaker 2: paranormal weirdness. Thank you guys so much for joining me
Speaker 2: on my relaunch at exactly right. It has been so
Speaker 2: nice hearing from so many people. Wow, keep those ghosts
Speaker 2: is coming. I really appreciate you guys sending me them.
Speaker 2: And before we get into today's episode, I wanted to
Speaker 2: actually read one that I got from a long time
Speaker 2: listener named Yvette. Yvette writes, I was about five. I
Speaker 2: used to sleep in the same room and bed that
Speaker 2: faced the door in closet with my mom while my
Speaker 2: grandma slept in the other room of our two bedroom
Speaker 2: classic Santa Monica apartment. It was the dead of night
Speaker 2: when I heard my mom screaming. I woke up and alarmed.
Speaker 2: I automatically began to scream myself. I rubbed my eyes
Speaker 2: to see what she could be screaming about, and I
Speaker 2: spotted on the closet a dark figure walking across. From
Speaker 2: what I could make out, the figure was in the
Speaker 2: shape of an old lady with a shawl on top
Speaker 2: of the head. That's when I screamed even louder. My
Speaker 2: mom and I jumped out of bed and I ran
Speaker 2: to my grandma's room. It wasn't until I was older
Speaker 2: when I would tell the story that I asked my
Speaker 2: mom why she was screaming. She told me her half.
Speaker 2: She said she woke up to hear a noise of
Speaker 2: rustling at the foot of my bed. Then she felt
Speaker 2: the impression of someone sitting down on the corner, getting
Speaker 2: up and then slowly dragging along the side leading up
Speaker 2: to the head of the bed on my side of
Speaker 2: that side, and that's when she began to scream. So
Speaker 2: we went over some photos. I saw a picture and
Speaker 2: I asked who was in it. It was me as
Speaker 2: a baby, my mom, grandma, and an old lady with
Speaker 2: a shawl over her head. My mom said that it
Speaker 2: was my great grandma who lived in our room before
Speaker 2: she passed, So yeah, I'm pretty sure that it was
Speaker 2: her that I saw. Oh my god, Eve Okay, this
Speaker 2: is terrifying, but also okay, thank you for sending me this.
Speaker 2: You know, I think about this a lot. You know,
Speaker 2: I've had this happen to me too, with my grandmother
Speaker 2: passing and then coming back to visit. And I'm sure
Speaker 2: that these spirits don't mean to be terrifying, but like
Speaker 2: I wish that they would sometimes remember it, like you
Speaker 2: used to be humans, don't you remember from when you
Speaker 2: were a human? How scary that would be to have
Speaker 2: someone sitting on your bed and dragging along like no,
Speaker 2: or at the very like you should remember like maybe
Speaker 2: I shouldn't do the shawl. Maybe I'll leave the shawl
Speaker 2: in my little ghost closet. I'm sure it was all
Speaker 2: well intentioned and lovely but scary. Thank you. If everybody
Speaker 2: please keep sending me ghost stories, listen to the end
Speaker 2: of the show. I'll tell you how you can do
Speaker 2: that anyway. Today I am joined by two friends who
Speaker 2: I absolutely adore. They are so funny. They are a
Speaker 2: comedy duo that I've known for a number of years,
Speaker 2: and then during the pandemic, they just started painting murals.
Speaker 2: Cut to now where they're painting every celebrity house and
Speaker 2: town Actually they even painted for recent guests Busy Phillips
Speaker 2: one of her homes at one point. So they're all
Speaker 2: over the place and they kill me. They are so funny.
Speaker 2: They've been on the show before. So let's just get
Speaker 2: into my conversation with Jensen Titus and Nick Shephard, also
Speaker 2: known as Very Gay Paint on with the show. We
Speaker 2: got some repeat customer here. Well, well, well if it
Speaker 2: isn't the two known as Very Gay Paint, Nick and Jensen.
Speaker 3: We're here, high ros, We're back.
Speaker 2: Got yet The last time you guys were on, the
Speaker 2: children went wild.
Speaker 3: The children were clamoring.
Speaker 4: The kids are at recess and they did not want
Speaker 4: to come back inside.
Speaker 3: Couldn't get it back in the building.
Speaker 2: Also, the dynamic for this show I love because one
Speaker 2: of you is just an angel that believes in all
Speaker 2: of this stuff and you know it is just perfect
Speaker 2: in every way, and then the other one is the enemy.
Speaker 2: The kind of person that says this stuff is a
Speaker 2: budge hooey, baloney baloney malarkey.
Speaker 3: Baloney malarkey, baloney malarkey. Is it could be a great
Speaker 3: drag name.
Speaker 2: I love her. I've seen her many times at you
Speaker 2: sing perform in downtown is a ghost.
Speaker 3: She's a ghosts direct a ghost.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what are you going to do now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a ghost until you have the tips out
Speaker 2: and then.
Speaker 4: She very real.
Speaker 2: So I first off have to ask Nick, are more skeptical?
Speaker 2: Do we say non believer? Where are you at? Has
Speaker 2: anything changed since the last time we spoke?
Speaker 3: I think as far as spirits unfortunately. Know you know,
Speaker 3: I love vibes, and I can and I will say
Speaker 3: the word vibes and I will think about the word vibes.
Speaker 3: But when we start getting into spirits entities, you know,
Speaker 3: the skepticisms on ten.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is my challenge is to see if we
Speaker 2: can make that a nine. I have a feeling after
Speaker 2: today's episode it might be like an eleven or twelve,
Speaker 2: But I'm going to try.
Speaker 3: I'm building the brick wall higher and higher.
Speaker 2: Now. Jensen, Yeah, what about you? Have you had any
Speaker 2: experiences since we last talked.
Speaker 1: Not like in not any like uh spiritual, You've got
Speaker 1: no experiences. I have been just in purgatory since last
Speaker 1: time we recorded.
Speaker 2: Well, I know you guys went to Rue Paul's house
Speaker 2: because you painted Rue Paul's house.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was being fully renovated. It is. I mean,
Speaker 3: people can watch the tour now on AD. It looks
Speaker 3: like if a child described a mansion to you, like
Speaker 3: they're like, they're disco balls.
Speaker 4: And a room could be orange and a huge marble
Speaker 4: staircase in the Cynthia.
Speaker 1: It's very like, yeah, what's that? What's that movie where
Speaker 1: they come all the children come singing down the stairs.
Speaker 4: It's yes, of course it's that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but not a haunted house. Not yet, not yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's plenty of time for people to die there.
Speaker 2: Careful on that staircase exactly. Well, guys, I got some
Speaker 2: stuff for us.
Speaker 4: I'm so excited. Is it something does have anything to
Speaker 4: do with Fister.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you remember that because, of course, you know,
Speaker 2: I've done dozens hundreds of these episodes over the past
Speaker 2: four years, and that is one of my top five
Speaker 2: favorite moments. If you haven't heard, go back Eliza. When
Speaker 2: they were on like a year ago, we talked about
Speaker 2: a place in Wisconsin, a very prominent popular hotel that
Speaker 2: is haunted, known as the Fister Hotel. And boy did
Speaker 2: we have a field day with that.
Speaker 4: Guido Fister.
Speaker 3: How can we forget Guido Fister?
Speaker 4: I will never forget.
Speaker 2: Well, keeping in that tradition, I worked hard. I actually
Speaker 2: really did work hard on this research, and I was
Speaker 2: trying to find some places that might appeal to two
Speaker 2: gentlemen such as yourself. So let's talk about a couple
Speaker 2: of places and things that I found. The first is
Speaker 2: in Arkansas, and it is a historic home known as
Speaker 2: the Empress of Little Rock, which is glamorous Girl. But
Speaker 2: she also has another name, uh, the Hornybrook Mansion.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's about right, Okay, okay, Brook like a stream.
Speaker 2: Hornybrook one word. It's actually a last name, not unlike Fister.
Speaker 3: It sounds like when you could you could like name
Speaker 3: your apartment things on Facebook and check in there and
Speaker 3: someone was like, we're gonna coll he the Hornybrook Mansion totally.
Speaker 2: But they called it that because, just like the Fister Hotel,
Speaker 2: it was the name of the person that moved in.
Speaker 2: I got this stuff from an article about haunted history
Speaker 2: on the Arkansas Democrat Gazette. I'm gonna take you guys back.
Speaker 2: The year was eighteen eighty eight. You guys are history buffs, right.
Speaker 3: I know everything about that year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say, you guys are really old, right,
Speaker 1: you were alive eighteen eighty eight.
Speaker 3: That's how you learn history. You got to live through
Speaker 3: a baby.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, just you know, because I like to set
Speaker 2: the tone sometimes of when and where we are. So
Speaker 2: and we also learned last time. You guys are huge
Speaker 2: baseball fans.
Speaker 1: Yes, we love history and baseball can't get enough of
Speaker 1: this stuff.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's just you know, so you guys can
Speaker 2: help us out here with setting the tone. So eighteen
Speaker 2: eighty eight. The World Series that year was between the
Speaker 2: New York.
Speaker 3: Munchkins the New York Giants.
Speaker 2: Actually, I guess at the time there was a team
Speaker 2: called the New York Giants.
Speaker 1: Well it was when they were smaller and then and
Speaker 1: then they got big. You have to know, you everyone
Speaker 1: has to start somewhere and you have to know your history.
Speaker 2: That's true and your history. It was between the New
Speaker 2: York Giants and the Saint Louis pe.
Speaker 4: Gams. It's been too long, Saint Louis Peepe.
Speaker 3: Hey are you going to the Munchkins the Peepees game?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, back to eighteen eighty eight. So also, well a
Speaker 2: couple more facts. Let's see the presidential election that year
Speaker 2: was between Benjamin.
Speaker 4: Button Button of course.
Speaker 2: Benjamin Harrison and Grover the Grove.
Speaker 1: The Grove Groove was between the Grove and Benjamin Button Grove.
Speaker 2: The Grove.
Speaker 3: I feel like the Grove is aging backwards if I'm honest. Yes,
Speaker 3: she's more gorgeous every day.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. They have an American girl doll's store
Speaker 2: there with a cafe and everything at the Grove, Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: One more fact, Joseph J. Sullivan that year dropped a
Speaker 2: banger of a song that was called where did you
Speaker 2: get that Bitch?
Speaker 4: Where did you get that bitch?
Speaker 3: Horny Broke?
Speaker 2: Where'd you get that hat?
Speaker 3: Okay, oh, where'd you get that hat? Carli Ree Jobson
Speaker 3: has a cover of oh does she?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: It's amazing.
Speaker 2: So that was the year. Also eighteen eighty eight that
Speaker 2: the Hornybrook Mansion was built by James H. Hornybrook. He
Speaker 2: was a cigar chomp and whiskey drink and saloon keeper,
Speaker 2: mister Hornybrook. And also it's kind of cute the way
Speaker 2: it's spelled. It's h O r n I b r
Speaker 2: oka E Hornybrook like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like horny, but it's like a little more innocent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he originally named it the Empress.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's probably what he wants. I don't know, actually,
Speaker 2: I don't know who named it.
Speaker 4: That, The Empress of Little Rock.
Speaker 2: The Empress of Little Rock.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, So it is a gorgeous Queen Anne style Victorian.
Speaker 2: It's seriously so beautiful. There's a turret at the top
Speaker 2: that James H. Hornybrook used to use to keep a
Speaker 2: lookout from police when he would gamble there with his friends.
Speaker 2: He ended up dying of a stroke on the property
Speaker 2: at only forty nine years old, and his wife, Margaret
Speaker 2: McCully Hornybrook, died two years later, also at only forty nine.
Speaker 2: They say of a broken heart. Nowadays it is a
Speaker 2: bed and breakfast and so people can go stay there.
Speaker 2: They can, you know, take twours of it and see
Speaker 2: the property. And I think that's probably why they tend
Speaker 2: to lean into calling it at the Empress of Little Rock,
Speaker 2: as opposed to like, who wants to go to the
Speaker 2: Hornybrook for a nice little breakfast in bed? So people
Speaker 2: see playing cards strewn across the floor of James H.
Speaker 2: Hornybrook's game room. The electric fireplace turns on by itself
Speaker 2: in there. There's a woman from Maryland that stayed there
Speaker 2: four times, and every time she stayed on the second floor,
Speaker 2: she saw a mass of darkness in her room. According
Speaker 2: to a website called frightfind dot com, the current owner
Speaker 2: claims that James Hornybrook came to him and pleaded that
Speaker 2: he restores the home to its original Hornybrook glory. The
Speaker 2: owner's wife currently has felt cold spots and felt chills
Speaker 2: in the house. People also claim that there's a ghost
Speaker 2: of a former maid that is seen in the second
Speaker 2: floor bedrooms that disappears into the closets. People also see
Speaker 2: a man in an old fashioned captain's uniform, and they
Speaker 2: say that they hear footsteps in the halls and they
Speaker 2: hear voices coming from empty rooms the Hornybrook mansion.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: The idea that he came as a ghost to beg someone,
Speaker 3: I just I can't. I can't imagine a ghost begging
Speaker 3: to have a humility. They sort of command, right, that's
Speaker 3: like their whole thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But the thing with when you're a ghost to
Speaker 2: the average person, I feel like you can threaten them,
Speaker 2: like right, like I will interrupt your sleep every single.
Speaker 4: Night, exactly. You don't need to be begging when you
Speaker 4: have the supernatural like upper hand there.
Speaker 3: But the energy of mister Horneybrook pleading with this gas
Speaker 3: feel so atypical for a ghost. He's a sort of
Speaker 3: a sub ghost.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just imagining.
Speaker 2: This also reminds me of when we talked about the Fisters.
Speaker 2: I believe it was Jensen who brought up how at
Speaker 2: one point, how you got then your last name?
Speaker 4: Oh exactly, how you get that last name.
Speaker 2: At one point in history?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Sure? They were fucking by a fucking by a stream.
Speaker 2: Every time they went by a stream, they said.
Speaker 1: Well yo, yoo y WOWI sally that rushing sound I
Speaker 1: am imagined.
Speaker 4: You know, it's hard not to just think of a
Speaker 4: girl that people call horney Brook.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's just like Lily, what are you doing tonight? And
Speaker 4: you're just like.
Speaker 2: Sit down, oh, Broke, calm down, Broke.
Speaker 4: She's like, please restore the homeback. It's original, all right, looking.
Speaker 4: I can't come unless this place looks like it used to.
Speaker 3: I just have to be this this fucking empress.
Speaker 2: I love your horny girl voice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's it's like her teethrow is bared.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the face Jensen, that you're making that the listeners
Speaker 3: can't see. Is it's us? It feels old timey.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hornybrook was from eighteen eighty eight.
Speaker 3: What you've got like sort of the mid Atlantic kind
Speaker 3: of accent, but you're so horny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, han't e than.
Speaker 3: Anything for the for the the hotel to be restored.
Speaker 4: Please, sir, look at me. Sop and wet wet is
Speaker 4: a brook too far? Sorry?
Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry, I'll back off that. I'm surprised that you could.
Speaker 3: I feel like in the past you could legally die
Speaker 3: of a broken heart. They just let the coroner would
Speaker 3: write down like yeah, broken heart.
Speaker 2: I mean I actually have a grandma that they say
Speaker 2: did that after her husband died. But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's what is on the death certificate.
Speaker 2: It's romantic.
Speaker 3: I do feel like dogs. Do we see it in dogs?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: It is?
Speaker 3: It is often the case that two pet dogs that
Speaker 3: are old, if one dies, the other will very shortly
Speaker 3: after be like I give up. Yeah, we have to
Speaker 3: have more to live for than our romantic partners.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you that I live for being horny.
Speaker 2: Well, i've got someone that we can talk about now.
Speaker 2: Maybe they're looking for a romantic partner. I'm not sure. Okay,
Speaker 2: a cryptid creature. Are you familiar with that term cryptid?
Speaker 4: Cryptid? No please?
Speaker 2: Cryptid is sort of like Bigfoot or Lockness, Like you know,
Speaker 2: these these creatures that science still hasn't quite captured and studied,
Speaker 2: but people, you know, report seeing them, and there's there's
Speaker 2: tons of them, like Bigfoot and Lackness. Those are kind
Speaker 2: of like those are those girls, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like everyone knows them. They're sort of the Madonna and
Speaker 2: Brittany of like the cryptid world. But then there's like
Speaker 2: a bunch of other cryptos.
Speaker 4: I feel like it's like drag queens.
Speaker 1: Like my mom will be like ru Paul, and I'm
Speaker 1: like totally that that's a drag queen.
Speaker 4: And there are so many more.
Speaker 2: There's so many, and they're popping up all over the place.
Speaker 2: This one here is in Alabama and it's called the
Speaker 2: Alabama White Thing.
Speaker 3: The Alabama White fang Thing.
Speaker 2: I think that is definitely thang. I actually just recently
Speaker 2: learned about this from a TikTok historian that I'm named Joshua.
Speaker 2: I think he says that's the last name, darn Darren.
Speaker 2: He's great go check out his stuff. He was telling
Speaker 2: me about the Alabama white thang. So I did a
Speaker 2: little bit of research. I went to a l dot com,
Speaker 2: which is the Sheall Alabama website. So since the nineteen forties,
Speaker 2: people report seeing this white creature that is over seven
Speaker 2: feet tall in the triangle area between Morgan Atowah and
Speaker 2: Jefferson Counties. It is known for being extremely fast. Some
Speaker 2: reports say that it walks on two legs, but it
Speaker 2: runs on four, which is terrifying that that's kind of
Speaker 2: like Meghan. Yeah, the clip of Megan like running on
Speaker 2: all fours.
Speaker 3: Yes, if Meghan were a seven foot tall, naked white
Speaker 3: meth head.
Speaker 2: Well, actually, I don't know if it's naked or not.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's got an outfit at this point.
Speaker 1: I also think there's something really endearing about the idea
Speaker 1: of counties. We don't really get that except for in
Speaker 1: the like that Midwest, the South, where where you're really
Speaker 1: describing places as counties. Jefferson County.
Speaker 2: That's because we live in Los Angeles County, which literally
Speaker 2: has like such completely different cities within it.
Speaker 4: It has like six to in states totally Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2: So they say that it screeches in a way that
Speaker 2: sounds like a woman screaming.
Speaker 4: This is me. I was gonna say, it sounds like Nick.
Speaker 4: The more and more we talk about it.
Speaker 3: It sounds like I stripped naked, had a bunch of
Speaker 3: cold bro Nick.
Speaker 4: We don't know if it's naked.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's naked. We know it's.
Speaker 3: Hairy, Okay, Oh, okay, not me.
Speaker 2: I think I don't know.
Speaker 3: The white thing is not a twink.
Speaker 2: I think that it's possible. It is just a very
Speaker 2: tall white woman that wants to just take a break
Speaker 2: from the family, get a little quiet time in the
Speaker 2: woods and screech. Well, people probably startle her and then yeah,
Speaker 2: she screeches. I don't blame her.
Speaker 4: Girl's got a screech and she's just a naturally hairy woman.
Speaker 4: We like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, back to my research, it is full white hair all.
Speaker 4: Over her body.
Speaker 3: Wow, everywhere, Grandmama.
Speaker 2: It's also been described as looking like a mix of
Speaker 2: a dog and a lion with a long tail.
Speaker 3: This is what the song she Wolf is about.
Speaker 2: Oh, I love that song. Oh okay, I got one
Speaker 2: more thing for you guys, And this one I'm so
Speaker 2: excited about. This is the final one I got. Oh boy,
Speaker 2: and I spent some time researching this one. I dove
Speaker 2: deep into this one. It is an area of West
Speaker 2: Virginia that is haunted known as booger Hole.
Speaker 4: No, no, oh, booger Hole.
Speaker 2: Booger Hole.
Speaker 3: Oh, you're talking about booger Hole.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't want to talk about booger Hole.
Speaker 4: Don't bring me back there.
Speaker 2: It's deep in the wooded mountains of West Virginia. There's
Speaker 2: a little bitty town that they call Booger Hole. It's
Speaker 2: between rush Fork and big Otter.
Speaker 3: It's just a random adjective, random name. It's like when
Speaker 3: you get the like temporary Wi Fi password.
Speaker 2: That's like big Otter forty two.
Speaker 3: Carnivorous, Samantha angry Salmon.
Speaker 2: I love big odd. I think that's fun.
Speaker 4: Big Otter's fun.
Speaker 2: Oh you know that big Order. Oh you mean booger Hole.
Speaker 2: Like it feels like booger Hole.
Speaker 6: Between Sneaky Parmesan and Electric Jezebel.
Speaker 3: Electric Jezebel, Sneaky Pharmagan.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, the two best counties in West Virginia.
Speaker 2: So there were mysterious unsolved murders that happened between the
Speaker 2: late eighteen hundreds. In nineteen seventeen. There's some stuff you
Speaker 2: can read online about it. I don't want to go
Speaker 2: too far, you know, people can look for themselves. Mainly.
Speaker 2: The stuff that I got was from West Virginia hauntson
Speaker 2: legends dot com.
Speaker 1: These are all registered under raws these domains.
Speaker 2: I know you track the IP yes? Is that what
Speaker 2: it's called an IP address? I don't do I think
Speaker 2: so something like that.
Speaker 3: Call in if you know whether or not it's a
Speaker 3: it's an IP address or a server. What's it called?
Speaker 2: I'm serving booger hole?
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: So of these murders, there was a ton, none of
Speaker 2: them ever solved. But it seems like people were murdered
Speaker 2: by different people the least that was the what people suspected.
Speaker 3: It seems like people are murdered by different people.
Speaker 2: No, but it's like it's not like there was a
Speaker 2: serial killer that they never caught. It seems like they
Speaker 2: were different scenarios over this, like I don't know twenty
Speaker 2: thirty forty year period, but one of the women that
Speaker 2: was murdered was an older woman that was accused of
Speaker 2: witchcraft of court, like it was that time, you know,
Speaker 2: But actually, I mean that is kind of late late
Speaker 2: eighteen hundreds and nineteen hundred whatever.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if it happened this year.
Speaker 2: Oh truly. So the whole murder spree ended, there was
Speaker 2: a mob that was formed with members of including members
Speaker 2: of the families of the people that were the murder victims,
Speaker 2: and this mob of people in the town basically kicked
Speaker 2: the suspected murderers out of the town and they threatened
Speaker 2: to kill them. They were like, get out of this town.
Speaker 2: We know you murdered our people. Get out.
Speaker 3: You will not tarnish the booger Hole name exactly.
Speaker 4: You get your ass over to Sneaky Parmesan. Yes, if
Speaker 4: you want to kill you go to Electric Jezebel.
Speaker 3: Not Booger Hole.
Speaker 2: Yeah. They were the true boogers of Booger Hole.
Speaker 1: So now it's just whole whole county more Bookers left.
Speaker 1: There's gotta be a city that's just called a hole, right,
Speaker 1: there must be Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: There has to be just a whole. So once they
Speaker 2: kicked all those people, the murders stopped. However, ghosts have
Speaker 2: penetrated the hidden bushy area known as Booger Hole. People
Speaker 2: report hearing the sounds of people riding horses up the road,
Speaker 2: but no one is there. A woman in white with
Speaker 2: long black hair, as seen walking down the street as
Speaker 2: she wails, howls, and sobs.
Speaker 3: It was me.
Speaker 2: Ghost Hunters far and wide gather to this day in
Speaker 2: hopes that they might get a taste of the mysterious
Speaker 2: southern region known as Booger Hole. Booger Hole, thank you?
Speaker 4: Should we go to Booger Hole?
Speaker 2: It's probably not a place I want to be. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna lie. Really, does that surprise you that I
Speaker 2: don't want to explore Booger Hole?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just just imagine the three of us at Boger
Speaker 1: Hole having a good old time.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm afraid it would be a letdown.
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna stay away from any booger Hole.
Speaker 3: Hard to live up to a name like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well that was my research. How do you
Speaker 2: feel about it?
Speaker 3: Incredibly well researched. I love all the websites you named,
Speaker 3: thank you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, really specific websites. Roz has it?
Speaker 2: Has it affected your belief in any of this stuff yet,
Speaker 2: either of you?
Speaker 4: If anything, it's making me more of a non believer.
Speaker 4: Some fuck.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, because you're all I got.
Speaker 3: No listen. I'm totally convinced now. All it took was
Speaker 3: the white thang, I said, oh, white thang, Oh I
Speaker 3: know her.
Speaker 6: There was like the stuff with the fucking horny brooke.
Speaker 6: I was like, there are playing cards out on the ground, okay.
Speaker 6: And then the electric fireplace. I'm like that could be
Speaker 6: on a timer.
Speaker 3: It sounds very cha for it to turn on by itself.
Speaker 3: I would be like, right, yeah, the.
Speaker 4: Maid disappearing into the closet did get me. I was like, okay,
Speaker 4: who saw unless there was just a maid that was
Speaker 4: afraid to be perceived or.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was like not supposed to be there. She
Speaker 2: was like stealing like the other paper rolls to take
Speaker 2: home and then someone busted her.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she always disappears into the closet.
Speaker 2: Well, I did more research, don't worry, so this this
Speaker 2: is right rear. Okay, that was my research on some
Speaker 2: mysterious places. But now I've got something. I think this
Speaker 2: will change your mind because this here, it doesn't get
Speaker 2: more real than eBay dot com. So now it's time
Speaker 2: for a segment that you guys did with me last time.
Speaker 2: I love this segment. It's called the Dolls are living.
Speaker 2: So today we are going to be talking about Martha.
Speaker 2: She's got bangs, which I love, little, messy, long hair,
Speaker 2: gorgeous hat.
Speaker 3: I love her bag.
Speaker 4: I love her bag.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she keeps her k in there.
Speaker 2: Oh, she does have a bag that matches her dress
Speaker 2: and her hat.
Speaker 3: And she's serving.
Speaker 4: I love this.
Speaker 2: She really is giving us a look. So currently she
Speaker 2: has zero bids. She's starting out at forty dollars, or
Speaker 2: you could buy her now for one hundred. So let's
Speaker 2: read about Martha. It says Martha is very secretive and shady.
Speaker 2: Some of the things she says I just don't believe.
Speaker 2: She changed her story too many times and can be
Speaker 2: rather grumpy and irritable. Martha claims that she was a
Speaker 2: store owner in a small town. It was some kind
Speaker 2: of general store. Martha says the store was slowly costing
Speaker 2: too much to fix and she couldn't keep it up
Speaker 2: any longer. Her son came and act as if he
Speaker 2: was going to help her, but ended up buying it
Speaker 2: from underneath her. She was angry and lost trust in everyone.
Speaker 2: Martha died alone in her home of old age. She
Speaker 2: has held onto this anger even into the spirit realm.
Speaker 2: Another story is that it was her house. So I
Speaker 2: don't know which story is true, or if any of
Speaker 2: it is true at all. I feel she needs some
Speaker 2: more investigating and someone to break down the walls that
Speaker 2: she has put up. If you are feeling drawn to Martha,
Speaker 2: or that you may be able to help her, please
Speaker 2: place a bid or use the buy now option and
Speaker 2: adopt whoa adopt.
Speaker 4: The language is really interesting, I know, do you feel
Speaker 4: like you can help her?
Speaker 2: The kind of the concept with all of these is
Speaker 2: that this Martha, old woman somehow got in this doll,
Speaker 2: and so yes, we're buying this gorgeous doll, but what
Speaker 2: you're really getting is Martha, the bitter old lady who
Speaker 2: has a.
Speaker 3: Lot of changing stories and need someone to help break
Speaker 3: down her walls.
Speaker 4: Right, it does like there's a lot of defensiveness. There's
Speaker 4: some compulsive lying happening, definitely some projection. I really like that.
Speaker 4: There's this whole idea of like you're of like helping
Speaker 4: a spirit sort of move on. It's more than just
Speaker 4: a doll and a haunt. It's like, can you help this?
Speaker 4: Can you help Martha? There's something really endearing Totally.
Speaker 3: It sounds like I'm paying to be a therapist kind.
Speaker 1: Of Yeah, people like caretaking, Oh sick of they need
Speaker 1: to they need a therapist.
Speaker 2: Well, for just forty dollars, you could become Martha's therapist.
Speaker 4: Well Martha does look shady to me, of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean what is in that bag? What's in
Speaker 2: her little handbag that she's carrying around?
Speaker 4: Nick said, ketamine?
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely ketamine.
Speaker 4: And that's what happened.
Speaker 1: She had a store and a home and it all
Speaker 1: went under because of her ketemine addiction.
Speaker 2: Oh, well that could be part of the story. I
Speaker 2: don't know. We what do we believe? What do we believe?
Speaker 4: She disappears from the image we saw it.
Speaker 2: I okay, I'm not gonna lie. I'm afraid that that
Speaker 2: didn't convince you.
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, honestly, that kind of did convince
Speaker 1: me because I'm like, this like unresolved spirit and it's
Speaker 1: bitter and it's it's sticking around in this stall, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 3: The story is remarkably pedestrian and believable. Yeah, it doesn't
Speaker 3: sound like anyone would make up that she's sort of
Speaker 3: angry and owned a store.
Speaker 4: It's like she's a little bit of a liar. She's
Speaker 4: a little annoying. So if you want to help her, like,
Speaker 4: it's very quotidian. Yeah, she just needs.
Speaker 3: To get her act together.
Speaker 2: Oh, Martha, I hope, I hope she finds a home.
Speaker 3: Gens. Did you say quotidian? Mm hmm, what does that mean?
Speaker 4: I was hoping that nobody would ask me pun quotitian.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a store, right, that's a little breadshop.
Speaker 4: I think it means like pedestrian as well.
Speaker 3: I mean it's a gorgeous word. I'm not This isn't
Speaker 3: even an attempt to call you out. I wanted to
Speaker 3: kind of build my vocabulary.
Speaker 4: I think. I think that's what it is.
Speaker 2: God, if there was a way that we could look
Speaker 2: up if.
Speaker 4: Only oh yeah, other occurring everyday, daily, ordinary or every
Speaker 4: day especially when mundane.
Speaker 2: Okay, so she is serving Quotitian.
Speaker 3: She's serving quotitian.
Speaker 2: Who quotitian A hole? Honey? Okay, we're working on next. Still,
Speaker 2: this is gonna do it. You wanna hear some ghost voices?
Speaker 4: Let's tell it all right, let's trade.
Speaker 2: It's time for EVP or ev plase. So what I do?
Speaker 2: I go to the internet. I go to YouTube TikTok
Speaker 2: wherever and I find EVPs electronic voice phenomena. I've got
Speaker 2: one for you today, and I want you guys to
Speaker 2: tell me what you hear, and then I'll give you
Speaker 2: some options. And we're gonna guess what. The person that
Speaker 2: posted it believes they heard the ghost saying. This one
Speaker 2: is from spectral researchers. It's at the trans Allegheny Asylum
Speaker 2: in West and West Virginia and it's it's creepy as
Speaker 2: can be. Let's give it a listen. What is this
Speaker 2: ghost saying?
Speaker 4: Oh God, okay, wait, sorry, go again.
Speaker 2: It's a whisper.
Speaker 3: I'm hearing victory hole, victory victory hole.
Speaker 4: I need it again.
Speaker 2: Well, I can give you some options.
Speaker 4: Please give me some options.
Speaker 2: Is it a hey grandpa, you know when you're looking
Speaker 2: for a daddy?
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2: Is it b Yeah? No flaw, like when the judges
Speaker 2: are like flawless, Yeah, no flaw.
Speaker 3: No flaw, yeah, no flaw.
Speaker 4: Ok?
Speaker 2: Is it c they don't talk? Maybe it's a person
Speaker 2: that used to say them prono and they don't talk.
Speaker 2: Or is it dame just nothing, just no voice.
Speaker 4: I think it's that one. Oh I oh, I'm hearing
Speaker 4: the first thing I actually heard of I read a book.
Speaker 2: Final answer, I hear I read a book. I hear,
Speaker 2: Hey Grandpa, it's definitely hey Grandpa. Yes, wow, I hear it.
Speaker 4: They just to cut up.
Speaker 2: I mean they run out of things to say. There's
Speaker 2: only so much of like I'm gonna kill you, like
Speaker 2: you gotta come up with other things, like you know
Speaker 2: you're stuck there for eternity. You're gonna say all kinds
Speaker 2: of shit.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta say something quote Titian.
Speaker 2: Yeah, honey, I put the titty in quote tity in ow. Okay,
Speaker 2: last thing, I'm just gonna list off some unexplained phenomena.
Speaker 2: Tell me if you think about it, if you've ever
Speaker 2: thought about it, if you got story about it. Whatever. Okay,
Speaker 2: here we go. First one, past lives go absolu fusolutely.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I actually this gets me. I can get on
Speaker 3: board with past lives.
Speaker 2: You shock me. Okay, So why is that I have.
Speaker 3: Deja vu so much and also am a narcissist? I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: So do you do? You have you ever thought about
Speaker 2: what you may have had a life as in the past.
Speaker 3: My past lives feels very like kind of I'm every woman.
Speaker 3: I feel like there's been just so many times and
Speaker 3: maybe this is just what it's like to be alive
Speaker 3: and have empathy. But like I hear a story and
Speaker 3: I'm like, I can imagine that meaning to me, which
Speaker 3: is actually just having empathy. Never mind.
Speaker 1: Also think, like a lot of skeptic, very skeptical people,
Speaker 1: past lives are one of the only things I don't
Speaker 1: believe in because it's concrete and that there is evidence
Speaker 1: that it has happened. So it's one of the few
Speaker 1: things really skeptical people will believe.
Speaker 2: In and explain this evidence. Are you talking about like
Speaker 2: children that remember things?
Speaker 1: No, just that there were lives before us. So if
Speaker 1: they're gonna if a skepticled person's going to believe anything,
Speaker 1: they would believe that a soul could be recycled through a.
Speaker 4: Life because there's like they know that people have lived
Speaker 4: before us, but with all these other things they don't.
Speaker 4: They don't They might not believe in an afterlife. There's
Speaker 4: no evidence of an afterlife. There's no evidence of an
Speaker 4: in between.
Speaker 2: I like the thought of God or whoever is in charge,
Speaker 2: Like they're they go green. They want to recycle They're like,
Speaker 2: I've done with that soul and I'm not just gonna
Speaker 2: throw it away like in the trash, Like, let's try
Speaker 2: to make something new of it. What do you guys
Speaker 2: think about demons? Do you believe in them?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: I did it before I met Jensen. There's darkness in
Speaker 3: that one, for sure.
Speaker 2: How about oji boards?
Speaker 4: No, I don't believe it.
Speaker 3: Somebody's pushing, someone's pushing, someone's pushing a damn agenda.
Speaker 4: Why is it just it's just they'll only talk to
Speaker 4: you through that.
Speaker 3: No, come on and in English right using our twenty
Speaker 3: six letter alphabet.
Speaker 2: Or we can record them, say hey grandpa, So they
Speaker 2: got ways of talking. It's just one of the many.
Speaker 3: Hey, grandpa, want to go on a date?
Speaker 4: We want to go to the booger.
Speaker 3: Sorry I can't hang out tonight, girls, I mean grandpa
Speaker 3: the booger hole.
Speaker 2: What about curses? Do you believe that a curse is
Speaker 2: a thing?
Speaker 4: Yes? Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Anytime something bad happens to Johnson, he can't be like,
Speaker 3: did I do something to make this happen? It's just
Speaker 3: a curse.
Speaker 2: Did I do that?
Speaker 4: Did I do that? Or is that a curse?
Speaker 3: He's like my dishes there's so many dirty dishes in
Speaker 3: my sink.
Speaker 5: I got cursed by the dish demon shit. Well she Yeah,
Speaker 5: I believe in curses for sure. I think you can
Speaker 5: get I don't. I don't really believe in curses. Yeah,
Speaker 5: although you know, how do we explain to Kennedy's.
Speaker 2: You guys are the history bubs.
Speaker 1: Well, Fellas Ross is not satisfied, Roz is not happy
Speaker 1: with Nick.
Speaker 2: I'm happy with my performance today. I really dug deep
Speaker 2: into booger holes, into Horny Brooks, into white things, into Martha,
Speaker 2: into hey Grandpa. So we started out at a ten
Speaker 2: with the non believer. Has it gone up or down?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, now that we've brought past lives into
Speaker 3: the mix, I think we can put me out a
Speaker 3: nine point five.
Speaker 4: That's great.
Speaker 2: This is so fun. You guys are the best tell people.
Speaker 2: You know what you got going on? There's a billion.
Speaker 4: Things, one billion things.
Speaker 3: We have a company called Verie Gae Paint, and we
Speaker 3: wrote a book called a Very Gay Book that's out now.
Speaker 2: Congratulations.
Speaker 1: You can follow us at Very Gay Paint on whatever
Speaker 1: you want wherever at Alabama dot com, al.
Speaker 4: Dot com We're on there.
Speaker 3: Uh, we got a show going on down in the
Speaker 3: booger hole. If you want to come see us do
Speaker 3: some comedy.
Speaker 6: We have Sneaky Parmesan performing. We have a horny hornibrook,
Speaker 6: she'll be there.
Speaker 2: It's headlined by the Empress, the Empress of Little Rock.
Speaker 2: All right, any final.
Speaker 3: Words, quotidian quotidian on my part as well.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys, Thank you so much to Nicholas and Jensen.
Speaker 2: They're so fucking funny. Go watch everything that they do
Speaker 2: and join me next week where I will be back
Speaker 2: with another amazing guest. I can't wait. I'm recording a
Speaker 2: lot right now and these guests keep coming with the girl,
Speaker 2: so I will talk to you very soon. You know
Speaker 2: all the things to do, follow me all that. I
Speaker 2: love you all, both living and dead. But if I
Speaker 2: didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me. Okay,
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Speaker 2: My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer
Speaker 2: is the alarming Alex. This episode was mixed and sound
Speaker 2: designed by the eerie Edson Joy. My guest booker is
Speaker 2: the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the hair
Speaker 2: raising Hannah Kyle Krichten. My theme music is by the
Speaker 2: spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac.
Speaker 2: Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the
Speaker 2: Chilling Karen Kilgarreth, the Spooky Georgia hart Stark, and the
Speaker 2: Frightening Danielle Kramer.