Speaker 1: Look man, oh I see you? Why why? Oh? And
Speaker 1: look over there? How is that nature? Yeah? Goodness? Let
Speaker 1: ding dong lost culture calling? My girl's got a white strip.
Speaker 1: Then you have to you have to help me. Remind
Speaker 1: me at thirty minutes because take my wife strips out
Speaker 1: from now thirty minutes from now. From that I put
Speaker 1: them on like two minutes before. Okay, Can I be
Speaker 1: honest with you, We're no, no, no no, we're gagging.
Speaker 1: I still have not gotten enough listens in so I
Speaker 1: form my opinion, which is that I'm obsessed and this
Speaker 1: is such an exciting new direction. But I am like,
Speaker 1: I need to like listen to it maybe five more
Speaker 1: times before I'm like, yes, I'm ready to be off book.
Speaker 1: Now you know what I mean. I need to be
Speaker 1: off book. I think this is well clear me the
Speaker 1: song of the summer period period and around the fourth
Speaker 1: or fifth list, and you really understand what we're dealing
Speaker 1: with here? What is it? What is it? What is
Speaker 1: it that we're dealing with. We're dealing with the sea change,
Speaker 1: We're dealing with Beyonce renaissance. We're dealing with sweat on
Speaker 1: Me Daddy, We're dealing with this coming on both in
Speaker 1: the club and outside on the block, party, on the field,
Speaker 1: wherever we are, at the barbecue. We're dealing with this
Speaker 1: coming on at graduations, weddings, at funerals. Children will be children.
Speaker 1: So this is a moment in culture. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: and I'm saying it no, I agree. And the way
Speaker 1: that she gave us the like club house spiritual successor
Speaker 1: to Dolly Partons, that's history. So much is going on here,
Speaker 1: break it down. So much is going on. Well, I
Speaker 1: can for a nine five spiritual successor to come out
Speaker 1: in the yeo. I mean, times have changed and we've
Speaker 1: needed this. Can you believe there hasn't been a song
Speaker 1: that's about how like, Wow, it's hard out there, Like
Speaker 1: they worked me so damn hard. They worked me so
Speaker 1: damn hard. Capitalism is labor is in a crisis right now.
Speaker 1: She said, the labor workers need a song, the queers
Speaker 1: need a song, America needs a song. The summer needs
Speaker 1: a song, and to drop it on the solstice? Which
Speaker 1: which what? Which you're saying? Which? Which? Which I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Which the woman? Which is a noun? Have you have
Speaker 1: we discussed this yet? I bet not, because the rumor
Speaker 1: is she was originally going to release three albums at
Speaker 1: the same time. Act one, which was gonna be well, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't have the numerical assignments here, but it was
Speaker 1: going to be a house in a dance album in
Speaker 1: one of country album and the other, and then the
Speaker 1: third album was R and B. I say, ain't on
Speaker 1: me soon on me another Giants. Well, I think what
Speaker 1: we're getting is that's the act one, Act two, Act three.
Speaker 1: I think it'll be three acts, just like the best movies,
Speaker 1: just like all the best movies. Actually real culture number six,
Speaker 1: three acts, just like best movies. And I think we're
Speaker 1: just gonna get it like perfectly distributed it maybe throughout
Speaker 1: a year. Are we thinking summer solstice? Winter Solstice? Really
Speaker 1: hard to say solstice with Crests strip and shout out
Speaker 1: to Crest Wide Strips shout out. I mean, have you
Speaker 1: gotten any sort of like deal from them or shipment
Speaker 1: or you know what's funny, I wasn't even thinking about
Speaker 1: that and so you just said that. But wow, the
Speaker 1: way it quest Fight Strips, Crest Wise Strips have really
Speaker 1: done great things for me. It's just such a funny
Speaker 1: specific like you're you're, you're, you're not only you're not
Speaker 1: just name dropping a brand. You're like, you're getting into
Speaker 1: the vertical. You're getting into the actual product itself, the item. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, let's just say it it works. Okay.
Speaker 1: It's like when when Jennifer Hudson said, wait watchers, because
Speaker 1: it works. I could say the same for Crest White strips, genuinely.
Speaker 1: And that's why when we were on set shooting Fire
Speaker 1: Island and I will say, improvised line, can anyone trade
Speaker 1: a Crest White strip for a prep pill? And the
Speaker 1: reason I said that is because we in the gay
Speaker 1: community know how valuable a prep pill is and that
Speaker 1: you also don't need to take one every day. Well,
Speaker 1: remember because do you remember I was just talking about
Speaker 1: this earlier. Do you remember when I when I did
Speaker 1: that line and Margaret turned to me and she was like,
Speaker 1: I love that. I think that. I think that should
Speaker 1: be the one. I was like, and then we were
Speaker 1: talking and I was like, you know sometimes I skip
Speaker 1: a day, and her eyes went wide and she just goes, honey,
Speaker 1: don't skip. How do you don't You can you can?
Speaker 1: I've talked to you. You can't. Doctors and pharmacists to
Speaker 1: say if you take it. If you're off a couple
Speaker 1: of days week, it's totally fine. Just don't make a
Speaker 1: habit of make a habit of it. Don't make a
Speaker 1: habit of skipping. Try to be as diligent as possible. Honey,
Speaker 1: don't skip. I can't even honey, don't skip. It was
Speaker 1: just so Margaret and her like like ferocious Margaret delivery.
Speaker 1: But for her to like be giddy at a joke
Speaker 1: that you've written on the spot the miracle of my life.
Speaker 1: I mean, look whatever, I'm just saying. We we we've
Speaker 1: talked so much about the film, and I guess we
Speaker 1: should say this is our first culture catch up in
Speaker 1: a really long time, in months, and I'm really happy
Speaker 1: that Beyonce has come in and said I'm the culture
Speaker 1: now because sort of with that without saying too much,
Speaker 1: like we've sort of been out there with this movie
Speaker 1: sort of being like, hey, like check out our culture,
Speaker 1: and I haven't been watching any culture. I haven't been
Speaker 1: seeing a damn thing. I've been We've been so busy bow.
Speaker 1: I guess if Couswives counts as culture, a lot of
Speaker 1: the readers won't. So it hasn't really been giving like
Speaker 1: I needed to give I get what you're saying. We'll remember,
Speaker 1: we got a lot of hype that the Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: premiere was going to be one of the best premieres ever,
Speaker 1: and it was good. I just don't think it was
Speaker 1: like exciting because it was mostly just sad and troubling
Speaker 1: to watch someone's house get broken into, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think did it give like peak housewives,
Speaker 1: like they're ship going on in the life of a housewife,
Speaker 1: like we are with her like, but after that, I mean,
Speaker 1: what we're dealing with is I hate when Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: is like this, where the conflict is what is the conflict?
Speaker 1: Like this thing of Crystal being like Sutton said something
Speaker 1: dark and then not saying what it was. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: well then now we're all watching this as entertainment, and
Speaker 1: the entertainment we're supposed to be consuming is circling the
Speaker 1: fact that there is no content because you won't say
Speaker 1: what it is, that there's no context, and then it's
Speaker 1: just I don't know what's going It's really hard to
Speaker 1: keep track of. Is it's like Sun said something dark
Speaker 1: and then it turns into well, Kristen lost fourteen friends
Speaker 1: because of something she did. It's like, okay, well what
Speaker 1: neither side or no party is being specific. I will
Speaker 1: say it is iconic and so funny to me that
Speaker 1: they keep saying the words fourteen friends because this is
Speaker 1: this is a thing in girl culture and let's talk
Speaker 1: about this numbers and people. Clicky girl culture is knowing
Speaker 1: exactly how many people are in your friend group. Oh,
Speaker 1: let's say that. It's like we have fourteen girlfriends, not fifteen,
Speaker 1: not thirteen, fourteen, fourteen and girlfriends. No, it's clicky mean
Speaker 1: girl culture of all ages, girls of all ages, women
Speaker 1: of all ages, dames, And it's a red flag. It's
Speaker 1: a red flag because you know what, I like Crystal
Speaker 1: Kung Minkoff. But I do get the sense that she
Speaker 1: is high schoolish. I mean, I know that girl from
Speaker 1: like my Sunday Chinese school, you know. And anyway, okay,
Speaker 1: I think that's Housewives give it. That's all I mean, literally,
Speaker 1: bo on the on this the week of Beyonce releasing
Speaker 1: break my song on the Solstice, That's actually all we
Speaker 1: can say about the Housewives. That's all we can say
Speaker 1: about the Housewives. What do you think of the fact
Speaker 1: that Beyonce in her storied career has chosen now to
Speaker 1: call an album renaissance. It's iconic behavior. Renaissance is a renaissance?
Speaker 1: Is what is the definition of renaissance? It's this is
Speaker 1: something we should really talk about on Is it actually
Speaker 1: it's re birth? That was that was sort of iconic
Speaker 1: us naissance birth? Oh, that's interesting to know. Did you
Speaker 1: confirm that for yourself on Google? Just do well here,
Speaker 1: I am sort of looking at it on Google. Well,
Speaker 1: it says the Renaissance is a period European stark in
Speaker 1: the transition from Middle Agist mardenity and covering the fifteen
Speaker 1: and sixteen centuries. And in terms of the actual word itself,
Speaker 1: I guess I'd have to look on the disambiguation for
Speaker 1: that one. Sure, sometimes the disambiguation has the meat culture,
Speaker 1: that's what that's whatever is that girls girl sometimes tis
Speaker 1: the meat and I found that to be true many times.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I'm not even going to look this
Speaker 1: up because I'm not going to talk to you a
Speaker 1: native French speaker, not native, but thinking, well, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I know what you're saying. Quebec, Montreal,
Speaker 1: Quebec is not native. It's so the same same root
Speaker 1: word as naissance. Yes, I was not born in a
Speaker 1: French speaking place, and so my native tongue, I would say,
Speaker 1: is Mandarin Chinese because it was the first language I spoke.
Speaker 1: There you go, even though it is the language I
Speaker 1: am at least proficient in. Now. Isn't that so tragic? Oh?
Speaker 1: I see you just carrying on with your parents speaking.
Speaker 1: I'm having more trouble carrying on with my parents. Um.
Speaker 1: It's just wow, that's that's it's giving immigrant experience in
Speaker 1: a nutshell. Um, you know, losing her mother tongue anyway,
Speaker 1: speaking of a renaissance more like. Okay, So I think
Speaker 1: the influences are far reaching. I think, of course Crystal Waters.
Speaker 1: Robin asked. But I'm saying, Um, I don't mean the influences.
Speaker 1: I think, um, one of the influences are like from
Speaker 1: the British folks bread. Yes, it does seem like there
Speaker 1: will be a lot of difference. She will evoke all
Speaker 1: kinds of music and that's exciting to me. I mean extremely,
Speaker 1: and she always really has. But then I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that she had something so specific she needed
Speaker 1: to get off her chest with lemonade that I felt
Speaker 1: like we were really living in an emotion in a
Speaker 1: specific musical world throughout that entire and she also, you know,
Speaker 1: she's always sort of dipped into other johns, I mean,
Speaker 1: Daddy Lessons. Obviously that's a flat out country song, Uh,
Speaker 1: don't Hurt Yourself as like a rock song. She's got
Speaker 1: it all in her And it's kind of odd that
Speaker 1: because you think, like, oh, what's she gonna do. We've
Speaker 1: seen her do everything, and then it's like circling in
Speaker 1: on this house idea and not only does it feel
Speaker 1: exactly right for her, but it also feels like something
Speaker 1: that she can be at the forefront of in terms
Speaker 1: of bringing it back. And yet, you know, we've all
Speaker 1: been feeling like it's a moment for house music again,
Speaker 1: and now she's saying it is period. That is period.
Speaker 1: I think like the why the greater world has not
Speaker 1: keyed into house music being back yet, and she is
Speaker 1: the person to bring it back for everybody. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Well, Beyonce is monoculture. Beyonce is one
Speaker 1: of the last pieces of the monoculture. Like, moms are
Speaker 1: going to hear about this song and they would not,
Speaker 1: and they would not. I think that big freed to
Speaker 1: I mean, what a what a moment that that she's
Speaker 1: she's a She's truly reached the highest heights. She she
Speaker 1: did back and Lemonade, of course, but this is like
Speaker 1: this is she's very involved in the whole thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: release your Wiggles is in the biggest song of the year.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. We never thought, we never thought released the
Speaker 1: released her Wiggles was going to be out. I was
Speaker 1: gonna hear that outside of like Brooklyn Bowl when I
Speaker 1: saw remember that, what was did you did you go
Speaker 1: to that concert? I was there with you? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that was that was so unbelievable funny. I mean just
Speaker 1: also like like when she has released your trade Beyonce said,
Speaker 1: Queens in the front, Doms in the back said, I
Speaker 1: still have to give a close read to the lyrics.
Speaker 1: That that's how behind I am. What drugs do you
Speaker 1: think Beyonce has done? Okay, I said that I thought
Speaker 1: she did ketamine, and the group chat tore me apart.
Speaker 1: They said, there's no way Beyonce is doing horse pills.
Speaker 1: I was like, I think there's a deep and girl
Speaker 1: not doing horse pills. She shot up. She showed up
Speaker 1: on the horse and the promo materials. That was a
Speaker 1: note that was not too ketamine. She I bet you.
Speaker 1: Beyonce tried a little paste of iver mecton back in
Speaker 1: the fall. Baby, she was like, I feel connected to horses.
Speaker 1: Let me let me see what this is like. She said,
Speaker 1: let me see what this is like. She wrote it
Speaker 1: on that horse into the disco and she said, me
Speaker 1: and this horse, you know what we both desire. Kay,
Speaker 1: that little white bag with a K on it. I
Speaker 1: think Beyonce has done ka. I think Beyonce has done coke.
Speaker 1: I think she and Jay did coke and didn't like it.
Speaker 1: They've definitely done trooms. They've definitely done I think they
Speaker 1: may have not done LSD, but they definitely done something natural.
Speaker 1: I think they've Yes, I think they did LSD and Beyonce,
Speaker 1: around our three or hour four of the trip, sat
Speaker 1: up straight and said, I'm doing a visual album. This
Speaker 1: is like I think it was yeah way back. I
Speaker 1: think they obviously smoked reefer mm hmm. They love their booze.
Speaker 1: She loves with it was Beyonce who loves whales. What's whales? Oh?
Speaker 1: You mean when Destiny's Child got stoned. That famous interview
Speaker 1: where they were stoned. But you know what they say
Speaker 1: they weren't high. That's a full lie. They were. Absolutely
Speaker 1: they were. They were on another planet. I know what
Speaker 1: my favorite animal would be a whale. It's so pure,
Speaker 1: it's so beautiful. And then Michelle, I want to be
Speaker 1: cheetah and the other girls are like, oh yeah, you
Speaker 1: are a cheetah and she's like because proud, and I
Speaker 1: was like, these are girls are you have to do?
Speaker 1: And this is this is not going to be like
Speaker 1: the digital black face. Matt has to do all three
Speaker 1: girls in the in a video. Now, we'll take this out.
Speaker 1: I don't take it out. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not going to do it. But if
Speaker 1: any white gay boy could, it's Matt Rogers. Well, coming
Speaker 1: from you of the queer POC, we sad it. We can't.
Speaker 1: We can't. I I took an end of bole layer
Speaker 1: you did. Oh that's okay. You're on vacation. I'm on vacation.
Speaker 1: I have not been desponding to the GCS, unfortunately, have not.
Speaker 1: And also it's been such a moment of culture. I mean,
Speaker 1: so have you been at least experiencing this song? Out
Speaker 1: there clearly, not a couple of times. This is what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm I don't think I've listened more than
Speaker 1: four times, which feels insane to me. I can't believe
Speaker 1: in starting off the new era this way. You know me,
Speaker 1: I've I've been on the front lines every single other era.
Speaker 1: That's not true. What do you mean? Can I tell
Speaker 1: you one one era you were not on the front line?
Speaker 1: Spot are you're talking about? Was Beyonce? Yes, okay, I
Speaker 1: think I'm talking about in general because I was. I
Speaker 1: was the person on this podcast that showed you driver's license.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I'm It's impossible to be on the
Speaker 1: front lines of all the dolls and all the eras.
Speaker 1: It's impossible. It's actually real culture number thirteen. It's impossible
Speaker 1: on the front lines of all the eras. Now we're
Speaker 1: simply humans. I I feel like I've always been there
Speaker 1: for the lead single, and this time I don't know,
Speaker 1: I've I've been so whatever. I like. We we traveled
Speaker 1: yesterday and we were just sitting around having deep conversations
Speaker 1: like we have not had time. We have not we
Speaker 1: really have? You mean? I mean yea? I well, God,
Speaker 1: the travel nightmare up yesterday. I traveled on Monday, Monday June,
Speaker 1: and it was a night mayor travel day, a delta.
Speaker 1: But I eventually did get back here to Los Angeles
Speaker 1: and here for a couple of days, and I was
Speaker 1: sort of nervous because I was like, if I'm in
Speaker 1: the air when this song comes out, oh no, no no,
Speaker 1: because you know, the WiFi wasn't working boo oh, of
Speaker 1: course not and why was I'm just I'm just checking
Speaker 1: my phone because I thought, oh, I gotta be real.
Speaker 1: If I be real happens in the sky, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: lose it. That really would not have been good. That
Speaker 1: really would not have been good if you were be
Speaker 1: real last night real that's not on the planet, in
Speaker 1: the in the current states that I was. And then again,
Speaker 1: I don't think why people wanted to see me be
Speaker 1: real at that moment. Okay, that's not at my finest
Speaker 1: of the plane. Hold it right there. It's counterproductive. I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I want to see this is
Speaker 1: the thing. I know, like people will not want to
Speaker 1: be real when they are in a distressed state. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but once in your life, once and once this year,
Speaker 1: I want to see be real that you took during
Speaker 1: the real when you didn't want to necessarily take the
Speaker 1: photo take to be real? Is everything? Okay, we just
Speaker 1: got in my text from we Oh what did it say?
Speaker 1: It's about the show? And wait, can we say but first,
Speaker 1: let me take out these strips Okay, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well no you had I think you had like five minutes,
Speaker 1: but I but I put them on like five minutes
Speaker 1: before they're out. Listen to all the readers and publicists
Speaker 1: that came to our last Culture Racist Culture Awards show,
Speaker 1: Thank you for contributing to one of the best nights
Speaker 1: of our life. Yeah, that was so much fun. It was.
Speaker 1: I can't believe how much fun I had. I didn't
Speaker 1: really think. I don't think I knew what to expect.
Speaker 1: I just knew it was gonna be I was like,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be stupid, this is gonna be fun, period,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to be anything more than that.
Speaker 1: But it was just this reciprocal joy that I think
Speaker 1: really hit me like a ton of bricks. I'm still
Speaker 1: not over it. I cried in therapy the next day
Speaker 1: about about everybody who listens and everybody who came to
Speaker 1: the show and about Matt. I cried about the friendship.
Speaker 1: I cried on stage. I know, I know, and you
Speaker 1: know me, I'm not. It takes me a little bit.
Speaker 1: I hold. It's not withholding. I don't find it to
Speaker 1: be a flaw. You're a slow process. I just think
Speaker 1: it hits me to on its own time. And it
Speaker 1: was so it's so funny that difference between us, because yes,
Speaker 1: you are very like sort of like stoic, and you
Speaker 1: you were, you were really receiving and then to hear
Speaker 1: that you had their emotional realization later. Meanwhile, throughout Press
Speaker 1: on Fire Island, like one or two days into press,
Speaker 1: I'm crying and all the interviews. I broke down like
Speaker 1: several times in interviews and they were like okay, and
Speaker 1: I was just like, I'm sorry, just emotional. Cried. At
Speaker 1: the end of the show, I am so I've been
Speaker 1: really emotional for like weeks, and like I just feel
Speaker 1: like so grateful to everybody and like how much love
Speaker 1: like we felt, because really that's what it was. It
Speaker 1: was like a love fest and we got to do
Speaker 1: all this dumb ship and every single dumb thing we
Speaker 1: put into that show was met with so much love
Speaker 1: and and everyone just got it, and we feel like,
Speaker 1: how lucky are we that we get to share language
Speaker 1: with all of you that like listen to the show.
Speaker 1: And I have been loving this for such a long time,
Speaker 1: and it's so at your time is the most valuable thing.
Speaker 1: So I feel like this is why it's so special
Speaker 1: when people listen to any podcast is because it is
Speaker 1: inviting whoever makes that podcast into your life for like
Speaker 1: an extended amount of time. Um, And it just I
Speaker 1: don't know, it was really really nice. It was this
Speaker 1: again reciprocal thing, like it was given to us, we
Speaker 1: try to give it to you in all these stupid ways. UM.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are asking like, are we going
Speaker 1: to stream it? Are we going to do something with it?
Speaker 1: We did film it. We don't know what we're doing
Speaker 1: with it yet. Um. It really was not prepared to
Speaker 1: be a live episode of the podcast. It was sort
Speaker 1: of a thing that we were doing with Lincoln Center.
Speaker 1: I hope you guys understand that. Um, but we want
Speaker 1: to do something with it, and we did shoot it
Speaker 1: and shout the funk out to our unbelievable producer. Her
Speaker 1: name is Lauren Mandel, remember the name. She's gonna run
Speaker 1: this whole world in about two seconds. Who took bowen
Speaker 1: and eyes like impulses and ideas about this and just
Speaker 1: like our text about things that could possibly happen, and
Speaker 1: like us filling in the Google doc that she made
Speaker 1: like and just made it all happen and run so seamlessly.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine? We were saying, can you imagine if
Speaker 1: we tried to do that ourselves? It would have been
Speaker 1: a wreck. It would have been a wreck. No. They
Speaker 1: literally we're like, okay, you guys can like just let
Speaker 1: us Like they were like, you guys sent us the
Speaker 1: run of show and like let us know what you're thinking.
Speaker 1: And I immediately was like, Matt, we have to hire someone,
Speaker 1: to hire some we cannot do this and I know
Speaker 1: just the person um and God, Lauren is a worker
Speaker 1: of miracles. I will. I've never been unimpressed by her.
Speaker 1: I've known her for a while now. She is one
Speaker 1: of just one of the most capable, smartest, most effective people.
Speaker 1: And really I was, I like, I had to run
Speaker 1: into this production meeting when she was running it before
Speaker 1: the show started, and the way she talks to everybody
Speaker 1: is like so respectful, and I'm like, God, how it
Speaker 1: can be done this way, someone who like just understands
Speaker 1: everyone's needs and what the whole project itself needs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I can't believe it. And also talk about like
Speaker 1: you know, you as someone who's like doing the show
Speaker 1: and like the face of the show, like all you
Speaker 1: want is for that to feel like that's the vibe
Speaker 1: and the energy going into the show, and like it
Speaker 1: really sucks when, like you hear about like other things
Speaker 1: production shows out there where there's bad energy, because it
Speaker 1: does doesn't need to be like that, you know. And
Speaker 1: and it's so it was so rewarding to be a
Speaker 1: part of something that was so fun and received well
Speaker 1: but also felt good and positive in the lead up.
Speaker 1: We weren't stressed out like and god knows like we
Speaker 1: had been busy before that, so we really like we
Speaker 1: needed help. So that's true collaboration and that rocked. What
Speaker 1: was your favorite part? I think my favorite part was
Speaker 1: singing Driver's License with Josh and Aaron. Yeah. I'll never
Speaker 1: forget that. I'll never forget that. I'll never forget the
Speaker 1: way Cola school. It made me laugh during not during that,
Speaker 1: we'll both during their acceptance speech, and I can't wait
Speaker 1: to I don't think anyone on Instagram took this video.
Speaker 1: But when they presented for the Tina Turner Legend Award,
Speaker 1: we mostly gave everybody, um really quick presenter copy that
Speaker 1: we wrote, and then everybody sort of embellished onto it,
Speaker 1: made it their own in the best way, truly, every
Speaker 1: no flops, everyone no, everyone crushed and um but cold schooler.
Speaker 1: Really all we gave cold school because it was the
Speaker 1: last it was the last category we got to. In
Speaker 1: terms of writing the copy, all we wrote was Matt,
Speaker 1: I wrote this is a place for legends. Okay, I
Speaker 1: know you wrote that, Matt for legends, okay. And here
Speaker 1: are the nominees for the Tina Turner Legend Award. We
Speaker 1: just gave that to Hole. We were like, we don't
Speaker 1: know what to do with this. Make it whatever you want.
Speaker 1: And then they wrote the funniest most funniest person in
Speaker 1: America performance of an Awards Show presentation ever. It was
Speaker 1: like Cole was giving, like Alice Ripley the entire night,
Speaker 1: like giving, giving, giving feverish Awards attendee, like just it's
Speaker 1: the award, It's awards night. It's such a fun character though,
Speaker 1: and like we don't really I think we as like
Speaker 1: comedians who are stupid and love awards show culture, like,
Speaker 1: we don't get to perform that that often, and Cole
Speaker 1: and we and Cole took that assignment and ran with
Speaker 1: it and did the best version of it. Also, Patti
Speaker 1: Harrison was miss Cultural and the event was with her
Speaker 1: with that war was really heavy and every single time
Speaker 1: she came at it just looked heavier and she was
Speaker 1: really she looked so much pain. And it was also
Speaker 1: that it was a star. What a star are Patty Harris? Then? Honestly,
Speaker 1: and then we have we we have to mention that
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift sent in videos to our show, sent in
Speaker 1: an original, an original comedy bit. She was like, okay, um,
Speaker 1: I guess I'll pull a glass of wine out of
Speaker 1: a baking tray and like, we just said, just record
Speaker 1: an acceptance speech. And then she sent it back and
Speaker 1: then you were with I texted her, we got the videos.
Speaker 1: We were screaming, and then I was like, Taylor, you
Speaker 1: nailed it. And then she goes she was like, I
Speaker 1: wasn't sure about the tone, so this is good to hear.
Speaker 1: And I was like, she started, she's she's she's an artist.
Speaker 1: She she's asking about tone and he knows. And not
Speaker 1: only did our a live audience love it, but it
Speaker 1: went viral on Twitter amongst the Swifties. And let's have
Speaker 1: this conversation. Do we believe that there is an easter
Speaker 1: egg for Taylor's version that was in the acceptance speeches
Speaker 1: at the last Cultures Cultural Awards And take that sentence
Speaker 1: in for a second. So fucking funny. So I was
Speaker 1: with you. We watched the videos for the first time
Speaker 1: on my computer, right and you walked away. I was
Speaker 1: in shock. We needed to just we were in shock.
Speaker 1: But I watched it again, that first one for the
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift Award where she passes by the alleged big
Speaker 1: easter egg of a little chalkboard that says secret Sessions Nashville.
Speaker 1: I paused the video. You thought you knew to pause. Wow,
Speaker 1: you're really looking for you don't remember this? You were
Speaker 1: you were after the sid I was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: Like I saw it before anyone else. I said, wait
Speaker 1: a minute. I stopped it. What's that? And I was
Speaker 1: it was truly out of a movie. I was like
Speaker 1: enhanced picture and then I mean it said what it's said?
Speaker 1: And I was like, what does this mean? And I
Speaker 1: was like, did she just leave that up there the
Speaker 1: whole time? Since I don't, I don't think anything is
Speaker 1: an accident. No, as she the chalk looks too clean,
Speaker 1: it looks like it was freshly written. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is something. And the house was not necessarily giving Nashville.
Speaker 1: The house was giving Los Angeles Hampton's. The lighting was
Speaker 1: not Southern. You know there's there's southern lighting. It was
Speaker 1: not giving rustic. I don't think we would have received
Speaker 1: a video like this during the Red Arrow. Let's just
Speaker 1: say that. Okay, So there's a few things that people
Speaker 1: are zoning in. One the color of her vest, giving
Speaker 1: the vehicle, giving out of the woods, giving giving that
Speaker 1: that that wildest dreams. TikTok. This is when you're supposed
Speaker 1: to do your whiteships. By the way, okay, you already
Speaker 1: took thank you. Also, the length of her hair, it's
Speaker 1: giving the bob. Had she and yes, had she taken
Speaker 1: her hair out, it would have been about because she
Speaker 1: was giving bangs, right mm hmmm. I don't think there
Speaker 1: were as many Easter eggs in the second video that,
Speaker 1: which is what is what is interesting to me that
Speaker 1: she kept that one pretty sparse. Well, then some people
Speaker 1: online are actually going too far, which is that, Well,
Speaker 1: you noticed that she accepted the awards for Baking Cookies
Speaker 1: and the Wildest Dreams Enchanted mash up from the tour,
Speaker 1: and I have to something. We chose that, We chose those,
Speaker 1: so so that is those were the winners that we picked,
Speaker 1: and we should say we picked all the winners for
Speaker 1: the Cultural awards. So that was not her being like, yes,
Speaker 1: I'll accept the award for this and this. We chose
Speaker 1: those because those were we felt the winners of the
Speaker 1: Best Taylor Swift and Best Taylor Swift Awards, respectively, So
Speaker 1: that was not her. That was not an easter confirmed confirmed, confirmed,
Speaker 1: although I do think releasing albums in November is very Taylor.
Speaker 1: Although we it should have been releasing albums in October
Speaker 1: or November. Should it have been, because all the way
Speaker 1: from debut all the way up to I want to say,
Speaker 1: it was all October releases. Reputation was the first November release,
Speaker 1: then the one after that was um read. I thought
Speaker 1: November was like her thin it's October, it's end of October.
Speaker 1: Well that actually the nominee was releasing albums in the fall.
Speaker 1: And the changes. There was some error in translation where
Speaker 1: it became releasing albums in November. Wait, I'm scared what.
Speaker 1: We don't know how it happened. We don't miss translate ourselves.
Speaker 1: We do not. I don't know what happened. Maybe it
Speaker 1: was our flop producer Lauren Mandel. I just think that
Speaker 1: it was obvious to me that it was going to
Speaker 1: be and she's been really thing while the streams in
Speaker 1: this love. I feel it's pretty obvious and I think that,
Speaker 1: but I guess here's my question to you. Do you
Speaker 1: think that any part of what she did in that
Speaker 1: video was intentional? And of course it was intentional she
Speaker 1: put them together, But in terms of releasing an Easter Egg,
Speaker 1: do you think we have an Easter Egg in our videos?
Speaker 1: I think the Easter egg the only one that is
Speaker 1: likely in Easter is the chalkboard. Okay, not that's not
Speaker 1: the hair length. No, it's just the chalkboard, just because
Speaker 1: it looks recently written and not like it was eight
Speaker 1: years old, because the album wildly years whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1: We'll let me sit with that for a second. Hold on,
Speaker 1: that's an eight year old album. Yeah, I guess it
Speaker 1: is holy show. I uh, I think that is the
Speaker 1: only intentional thing. Um, But I just think it's really
Speaker 1: funny that well, first of all, our mentions are fucking
Speaker 1: chaos right now because Pop anytime Pop Crave tags us laugh,
Speaker 1: the replies are fucking unhinged and this actually is terrifying.
Speaker 1: And the swifties are always, always, always going strong. But
Speaker 1: some of these other standoms are kukuba bananas. I mean, uh,
Speaker 1: to be involved in swifty culture in this way, it's aspirational,
Speaker 1: it's aspirational, it's thrilling, and it's also opened my eyes
Speaker 1: up to the underbelly. I mean definitely the world, definitely
Speaker 1: the world. But I have to say, like the decisiveness
Speaker 1: which they were tweeting with which they were tweeting cookies,
Speaker 1: she make cookies at this time at the listening party
Speaker 1: while the streams coming. I yeah, I mean like it's
Speaker 1: it's it's really really interesting to me. So do you
Speaker 1: think that Beyonce saw that Taylor announced stuff of the
Speaker 1: Cultural Awards and so she said we have to move
Speaker 1: up my Yeah, she got jealous at the coture. We
Speaker 1: readers and policists have to understand. We were sitting on
Speaker 1: the deck in Provincetown, like putting the show together, and
Speaker 1: we were like, did we get the video from Lisa Coudro?
Speaker 1: We did, okay? And what are we at with Taylor?
Speaker 1: Taylor She's She's coming here? And we received Canda Stiller
Speaker 1: Baskett's video. Yet did we we have She's It's coming?
Speaker 1: We was in hours great and so in terms of
Speaker 1: the show order, we were putting together this real ass
Speaker 1: Awards show. It was so funny it was and an
Speaker 1: experience I will never forget. And we performed Cool for
Speaker 1: the Summer, which was a thrill which no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it wasn't new it was me I came into Really
Speaker 1: it wasn't that at one point did And that's my
Speaker 1: fault because I kept wanting to change it. Oh, let's
Speaker 1: let's shout out our wonderful musical David David dabbin Legend Arrangement.
Speaker 1: Legend was working on almost all of the Jimmy Awards
Speaker 1: until very recently and has arranged so many wonderful shows Beetlejuice,
Speaker 1: Funny Girl, so many wonderful shows. Um. He was so
Speaker 1: fantastic to work with and nailed it and a great
Speaker 1: feel like like a show, like a truly great energy,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just like and that's the
Speaker 1: thing too, is it's like when you're making changes like
Speaker 1: to something like that. Like for me, it's like if
Speaker 1: I was never told like, oh, we need to change
Speaker 1: the key, I feel like I'd have a fucking but
Speaker 1: like he he was just like yep. And that's that's
Speaker 1: when you realize, like people that are true musical geniuses
Speaker 1: like they to me are like the first of all
Speaker 1: hottest people. I get so turned on when someone is
Speaker 1: like a crazy good music brain works like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's just there's something about that that I cannot like.
Speaker 1: It's like cott engineer dug, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's magic, part of the horny nous
Speaker 1: around him. It is that is would you say that
Speaker 1: music is like casting a spell? Playing music is like
Speaker 1: casting a spell, And when you tell a musical director
Speaker 1: you need to change the key, they go okay, and
Speaker 1: then immediately magic flows out of there, like they can
Speaker 1: cast a spell on manned Honey. You might as well say, Alahamura,
Speaker 1: because I'm on the Lahamura girl. Girl. You might as
Speaker 1: well say because I'm illuminated, girl. You might as well
Speaker 1: say expelling armist because I'm disarmed. Mama. You might as
Speaker 1: well say I bought a cadavra because my ass is
Speaker 1: fucking dead for you, honey, you might as well say crucio, bitch,
Speaker 1: because I am on my knees. On my knees, you
Speaker 1: might as well say imperio, bitch, because I am traumatized.
Speaker 1: I would do whatever you tell me to do. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: you might as well say set them CenTra because my
Speaker 1: snake is out, Mama. You might as well say no
Speaker 1: expected patron um because I just released I just released
Speaker 1: a white cloud into the sky. I came buckets, Mama.
Speaker 1: My essence is all over the place. Harry Potter is good.
Speaker 1: It sucks. No, it's actually not good. Well, she's not
Speaker 1: only did she ruin her legacy like in her personal way,
Speaker 1: but she like ruined the cannon of the story with
Speaker 1: all her all her fucking flop movies. I have to
Speaker 1: say on this her movie, I'm saying her movies, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like the fantastic some of the worst films of all
Speaker 1: time ever made. But on this the week Beyonce has
Speaker 1: released Break My Soul on the on the soul Stice
Speaker 1: and Taylor Swift has appeared on the last Culture Soos
Speaker 1: Cultural Awards and potentially released Easter eggs. We cannot talk
Speaker 1: about ja k rolling. I mean we we must we
Speaker 1: must not, we must not. Okay, well I feel it.
Speaker 1: I feel like between Beyonce and Taylor, Um, what do
Speaker 1: you have to say about? Can we just say general
Speaker 1: gag on news? We what go? The fact that Beyonce
Speaker 1: and Taylor are sort of in the culture right now,
Speaker 1: it's giving, it's giving Obama era, it's giving two thousand ten.
Speaker 1: We don't even know that there can be cares in
Speaker 1: the world. Boots girl, I miss optimism, don't you? Don't
Speaker 1: you miss optimism? And isn't it so sad how we
Speaker 1: can never feel that way ever again about anything? Wow?
Speaker 1: Like we as a we, as a society and a
Speaker 1: culture and as a generation in all the generations below us,
Speaker 1: Like no one can feel optimistic about things ever again. Ever.
Speaker 1: I'm so stoned and I'm so sorry. Are you released? Okay?
Speaker 1: So yeah, I cannot be stone because I have to
Speaker 1: do an audition after this, but I would be with you,
Speaker 1: my sister, and I feel sad that I'm the stone
Speaker 1: are they are the dolls that you're with sort of
Speaker 1: downstairs stoned. They're downstairs, they're not stoned, they're sort of swimming,
Speaker 1: drinking probiotic sodas. Really, Oh my god, it's it's giving healthy, healthy,
Speaker 1: it's giving choose your own adventure, which which I love.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, So the next time you hear
Speaker 1: Bone and I together is going to be when we
Speaker 1: do our follow up to an Honest Conversation. That's going
Speaker 1: to be called an Honest Conversation Part two, and it
Speaker 1: will be live from Fire Island, where Bone and I
Speaker 1: are going. I think we've said it so many times.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be there the first week of July and
Speaker 1: we will do our next culture catch up from there.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking forward to going back to the Pintes.
Speaker 1: I want my brain to break in half. I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to a h e a u X summa homa.
Speaker 1: What does what does being a hope mean to you? Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh it is okay. I thought you were just like
Speaker 1: I want my brain to be cracked like an egg
Speaker 1: like all that for sure, but you also be dicked down.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to meeting Big Bro Park two. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I'm so excited. For you be excited for yourself. Bitch,
Speaker 1: What do you mean someone's going to break your soul
Speaker 1: like a whole. I don't know. It really hasn't happened.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy. How long it's been. What are you
Speaker 1: talking about? You do that had since I've had anal sex. No? Literally,
Speaker 1: this this is what we're talking about. What's the problem? Um?
Speaker 1: It just never leads up to that either, Like, it's
Speaker 1: just it's just not in the cards, as they say.
Speaker 1: Do you feel that I'm ready, You're ready, I'm ready.
Speaker 1: It's just that I'm like, Oh, it's I'm tired. I
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't I don't want to do it.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's it. It's just it's just that I've been
Speaker 1: busy and tired. M hmm. But that but that there's
Speaker 1: but there's nothing fun about what we need to get
Speaker 1: you on something Fire Island. Oh my god, I can't wait.
Speaker 1: We're jumping into saying that we're we're open to all
Speaker 1: sorts of experiences on the Fine Island Pines us sort
Speaker 1: of the mascots of the island. Well, it's like it's
Speaker 1: giving Donald Duck and Mickey and you know you're giving
Speaker 1: Donald no Joel Kim is Mickey You, You and I
Speaker 1: are Donald Goofy. I'm Donald and if it stuck, but
Speaker 1: I guess some people do like it doesn't stuck to
Speaker 1: be Goofy. Oh no, in Kingdom Hearts, Goofy is so important.
Speaker 1: Goofy's your tank, Donald Donald, Donald's your spelled caster, which
Speaker 1: feels like me, you know, it feels like very like.
Speaker 1: I love actually that that's you, because you're the more
Speaker 1: musical one. Is that true? Maybe I'm maybe I'm the tank.
Speaker 1: I'm stoic, I'm the tank. I'm Goofy. I don't think
Speaker 1: you give UFI not like me. I'm sort of lanky
Speaker 1: and esk. Why are we talking about because because I
Speaker 1: said we were going to be the mascots of Fine
Speaker 1: Island Pines. Oh, you can choose a different mascot. I guess,
Speaker 1: so okay, Mario Luigi, there you go. I'm giving Maria,
Speaker 1: you're giving Luigi. Well, what does that make Joe Kim
Speaker 1: certainly not Princess Peach waro bitch bye, bitch. You gotta
Speaker 1: be listening. Well, it's a big week for Joe Kim,
Speaker 1: his stand up specials coming out of Psycho sexual Flix
Speaker 1: dot Com and you can watch Loot on Apple TV
Speaker 1: Plus starting Maya Rudolph. I've seen the first three episodes.
Speaker 1: Very funny show, very good show. Maya is delivering. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's all you're lying down. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: really all your one wh You say the name Maya Rudolph,
Speaker 1: you go, oh, is she the post me? Because all
Speaker 1: I want for her is to deliver and she does
Speaker 1: on time, which we also love about Postmates when they're
Speaker 1: on time. You know what. I've not had good experiences
Speaker 1: post with Postmates actually, and I will say that publicly,
Speaker 1: and I will not drag, but I will say tis tisk,
Speaker 1: I'm wagging my finger? Are you The customer service? The
Speaker 1: customer service has not been great. And the and the
Speaker 1: Pride campaign was was a big no no and I
Speaker 1: and I found out that I don't want to say it.
Speaker 1: Olivia told me that I got the offer for their
Speaker 1: bottom friendly Foods campaign and she was like, no, he
Speaker 1: will not be doing that. No, no, no, no no no,
Speaker 1: there's some there's some industry inside um for you. But
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know about like bottom foods,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I just I just of
Speaker 1: course I get it. This is what I'm saying to
Speaker 1: all bottoms. Eat whatever the funk you want, okay, and
Speaker 1: don't like eat eat stuff because it'll keep your reptum clean.
Speaker 1: Eat eat the burrito before you go get fucked. Fine,
Speaker 1: men on sex dirt, And this is what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say on lost culture. So this is how you know
Speaker 1: the podcast has not changed. The dirtiest bottoms I've ever
Speaker 1: been with have also been the quote unquote hottest people. Okay,
Speaker 1: so they don't care, So why should you care. I'm
Speaker 1: talking to all my bottoms out there. These these men,
Speaker 1: they don't care. I've I've seen, I've looked at alive
Speaker 1: from both sides now and the people that you think,
Speaker 1: oh that person has sex a lot, they don't care
Speaker 1: about cleaning their bottole. They don't care about eating, right,
Speaker 1: it's poop down. It's poop down, okay, and they don't
Speaker 1: even give a fuck. There you go. And how many
Speaker 1: times have you shot on dick in your life? Let's
Speaker 1: go there, um, maybe just twice? I think for me twice? Yeah,
Speaker 1: too many? But I actually no, I'm not gonna I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna really attach shame onto this for myself or
Speaker 1: anybody let's start the revolution. Okay, I'm saying we need
Speaker 1: to be open about it. Like I've shipped on one
Speaker 1: dick and then it was a guy that I just
Speaker 1: hooked up with once and then I can't. I just
Speaker 1: saw it afterwards and I was like, oh, that's a shame.
Speaker 1: But he didn't say anything. It was very cool about it.
Speaker 1: And then I should on one dick with a boyfriend
Speaker 1: and he was like, oops, look what you did? And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh shoot, and then it was fine.
Speaker 1: So now you reveal your stories. But can one of
Speaker 1: the swifties take look what you made me do and
Speaker 1: cut it onto ops, look what you did? Oops, look
Speaker 1: what you did? Look that's my that's my response song
Speaker 1: to Taylor's Look what you made me do? Oops, Look
Speaker 1: what you did? Look what you did? Look what you
Speaker 1: made me do? And the response is oops, look what
Speaker 1: you did? But you did did? Look what you did? Okay?
Speaker 1: Can I actually reveal something? Yeah, you didn't say your
Speaker 1: times you should on dicks? And I said the two
Speaker 1: times okay, one was one of the like the second
Speaker 1: time I ever had it was the first the first time,
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I remember when this happened, and then about
Speaker 1: it up this was this was high school? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: yes I was. And then the second this was high school.
Speaker 1: The second time was no, was like, uh college, No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't college. I was like twenty two or something,
Speaker 1: right out of college. Okay, so it's been a long
Speaker 1: time for you. You've sort of like figured out the
Speaker 1: fiber of it all. But I need to Okay, I
Speaker 1: need to actually admit to something, which is that. Ever
Speaker 1: since last week's Jeremy Viler episode, will we open up
Speaker 1: the episode talking about infatuation, I'm like, well, what happened
Speaker 1: for me? I'm like, that's all I want this summer
Speaker 1: is to feel infatuated. And I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if that happens too often in light I feel
Speaker 1: like this is this is where it gets weird. Like
Speaker 1: I feel like in my heart, I am like a
Speaker 1: Howey that really wants that and identifies and here's your sister.
Speaker 1: But then you you haven't experien arians that. That feels
Speaker 1: a little heartbreaking, and you become a Noah straight up
Speaker 1: Like now I'm right now, I'm on my it's giving
Speaker 1: Noah tease. I'm like, no, I don't want to feel
Speaker 1: I think this sequel has to be Um, the ax
Speaker 1: the person who broke Noah's heart shows up. Well, so
Speaker 1: we were fully fully in Provincetown. And by the way,
Speaker 1: we had the best time. And if he was like
Speaker 1: thanks for coming up and saying hello, we didn't even
Speaker 1: talk about this. We had the best time. We met
Speaker 1: John Waters. We need a whole episode for that. He
Speaker 1: needs to come on the podcast. I mean that would
Speaker 1: be an epic moment in time. I think he would
Speaker 1: do it too. He's like very he's so chatty, lovely, chatty,
Speaker 1: wants to talk about he's doing like approachable legend better
Speaker 1: than anybody, like I always Yeah, for all the times
Speaker 1: I complain about like saying the same thing over and
Speaker 1: over again, we're being asked the same questions. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's been asked the same questions for fifty years. Came
Speaker 1: out so graceful about it anyway, Um, he was so lovely.
Speaker 1: We got to meet so many wonderful people in p Town,
Speaker 1: including Jenny Slate. Jenny Slate so fun. She's coming on
Speaker 1: the pod soon, yes, And everyone's gotta check out Marcel
Speaker 1: the Shell with shoes on. When it comes, when when
Speaker 1: you when you can? And um, also I was gagged
Speaker 1: because we were at this dinner and the character actress
Speaker 1: Dale Dickie was there, who I'm obsessed with. She's from
Speaker 1: like Winter's Bone. She had did an iconic episode of
Speaker 1: Breaking Bad, and she was floating around and I got
Speaker 1: to say to Dale Dickie, oh my god, you're a star,
Speaker 1: and she got to say to me bow and Yang
Speaker 1: because I was, of course sitting next to the icon
Speaker 1: bo and Yang. And we should also say that was iconic.
Speaker 1: And also the second iconic thing was at the Culture
Speaker 1: Awards when Candice Stillard Bassett herself sent in her captain
Speaker 1: speech for Record of the Year and said, of course,
Speaker 1: I just want to say thanks to Bowen and check
Speaker 1: Hiline Change. Highline Change looks fully down to check her notes. Matt,
Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for your unique brand of humor.
Speaker 1: I'm we screamed till that, and the whole audience was
Speaker 1: screaming at Candice Stillard Bessett, needing to check her and
Speaker 1: not know who the funk I was. Thank God. I
Speaker 1: love being Kelly Rowland. I do. Can I just say, though,
Speaker 1: what the amount of times? And I hate that this
Speaker 1: is like, oh my, this is how I know. But
Speaker 1: like so many interactions in the last couple of weeks
Speaker 1: with people where Matt and I have done stuff together
Speaker 1: and gone places together, of people just going up to him.
Speaker 1: I am invisible fully and they just know and it's wonderful,
Speaker 1: and then they tell him at what an amazing job
Speaker 1: he's doing on I Love That for You, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, just celebrated its season finale. I loved it
Speaker 1: so much finale. I there was a crowd. The last
Speaker 1: moment is so fucking good and funny, and I was
Speaker 1: so refreshing and I haven't seen that and so long
Speaker 1: on a comedy television show. People should have been well,
Speaker 1: I'll say this. I just went across the street to
Speaker 1: the Clark Street Dinner where, by the way, I ran
Speaker 1: into Steph herself. I screamed, But when she looked so
Speaker 1: gorge She's in this like yellow jump Steph sho has
Speaker 1: always loved to jump. She tasted me on the shoulder
Speaker 1: and she goes, hey, I heard that you didn't think
Speaker 1: I respond to your text, And I literally screamed. I
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, I screamed, and we had
Speaker 1: the longest hug and we had such a nice conversation.
Speaker 1: Oh my God, she's gonna come on the pod say
Speaker 1: she's got us, but I fucking love her. And I
Speaker 1: was there and I swear to god, I hadn't been
Speaker 1: in that dinner and that's like my dinner I go
Speaker 1: all the time. I hadn't been there, probably in about
Speaker 1: six weeks or something, because like we've been out doing
Speaker 1: the thing. I felt like sucking Zenda herself. The whole
Speaker 1: staff was like, are you on that show? I was
Speaker 1: like yeah, And it was giving Sandea in Boston. I
Speaker 1: was like, am I saying da in Boston right now?
Speaker 1: Because everyone knows my name? Like it was giving. People
Speaker 1: have been finding the show and that's really exciting because
Speaker 1: I do think it's really good. Like when you watch
Speaker 1: it as an eight episode piece, it's a very binge able.
Speaker 1: So if you don't have showtime yet, get it, do
Speaker 1: the trial, watch all of it, and then you know
Speaker 1: you should keep it because there's lots of good stuff
Speaker 1: on Showtime, but just saying it's now binge able, so
Speaker 1: you can get it if you haven't seen it already,
Speaker 1: and you can watch all of it and it really
Speaker 1: is good. It's so wonderful. These performances, including Matt are
Speaker 1: so fantastic. Well, and let me just say the Emmy
Speaker 1: voting is happening right now, and I just want to say,
Speaker 1: Jennifer Lewis for your consideration, because that is a career
Speaker 1: of decades and she is giving everything. And if you
Speaker 1: are an Emmy voter or no, an Emmy voter, you
Speaker 1: should be talking about Jennifer Lewis for the nomination. And
Speaker 1: everyone on the show, like Vanessa and Molly, they're so amazing.
Speaker 1: But I just feel like it's Jennifer's time to get
Speaker 1: like a major, like, you know, a nomination, like and
Speaker 1: like I sometimes think, and I'm hesitant to say this,
Speaker 1: but I sometimes think, like I just like Jennifer's name
Speaker 1: is getting lost and it cannot be because she is
Speaker 1: giving such an incredible performance and obviously, like you know,
Speaker 1: so if I have two wishes for nomination, warning it's
Speaker 1: Jennifer Lewis supporting actress and of course boyan supporting actor,
Speaker 1: and I we need to compete with Mike. It will
Speaker 1: never ever happen. It literally, there's like a point zero
Speaker 1: zero zero two percent chance of it's happening. I'm just
Speaker 1: happy to be on a show where I think Jennifer
Speaker 1: really deserves it and I'm I'm her scene partner and
Speaker 1: much of it. So but anyway, I just had to
Speaker 1: say that because I don't see people talking about it
Speaker 1: and I'm like so proud of Jennifer in the show.
Speaker 1: So I just want to say that everyone start the
Speaker 1: chatter online. I just want right now, tweet something, tweets
Speaker 1: some thing, hashtag f y c Emmy's there we go,
Speaker 1: and that's that's that's how you really be a publicist. Okay,
Speaker 1: And also, like, fucking Molly is unbelievable, Molly. I was
Speaker 1: I was watching the last episodes of My Parents again, Molly.
Speaker 1: What Molly does like in those last two episodes, like
Speaker 1: oh my God and the big reveal of the big
Speaker 1: reveal was truly something I have not been able to
Speaker 1: stop thinking about. And I won't spoil anything, but in
Speaker 1: the in the control room, Yes, good episode. She's so
Speaker 1: good and Vanessa is just like Vanessa. That show comes
Speaker 1: from her, like it is so her essence. It is
Speaker 1: as sweet as she is, as funny she is, as
Speaker 1: kind as she is, as singular as she is. Like
Speaker 1: I can't say enough. So I love love my colleagues,
Speaker 1: love my colleagues so much and it's just a wonderful chop.
Speaker 1: Congrats on finishing that second mom, and we are all
Speaker 1: proud of I just wanted to say that it was
Speaker 1: really really nice to see Matt just being recognized or
Speaker 1: something that he does so well. Anyway, and of course
Speaker 1: the joy of my life over the past weeks and
Speaker 1: weeks has been you know, just everyone like deserving is
Speaker 1: not the word, Like you did such an amazing job
Speaker 1: in that film, and like I'm so happy that everyone
Speaker 1: can see it now, see how what a well rounded
Speaker 1: actor you are. You are my favorite performer. All you
Speaker 1: need to stop, No, I won't because you are. It's
Speaker 1: like so cool, like to see like everyone realized, like
Speaker 1: what a force you are. And then I'll be like Hollywood,
Speaker 1: and it's true, I'm so proud of you. You You're
Speaker 1: you're flopping. I'm not flopping. I am not stopping. Publicists,
Speaker 1: You're now officially fully full time readers again until next time,
Speaker 1: until next time. There, I think I don't give away
Speaker 1: too much, Okay, So yes, again, really really disappointed that
Speaker 1: we cannot bring what happened at the Culture Awards out
Speaker 1: to a wider audience. We just don't know, just don't
Speaker 1: know yet there's and which you know hopefully that keeps
Speaker 1: you into like what we want to do with it,
Speaker 1: you know, like we um, we can't legally feature we
Speaker 1: can't legally put it out for whatever reason, for multiple
Speaker 1: reasons actually, But that is the one thing that really
Speaker 1: is the disappointing part in all of this. It's the
Speaker 1: only thing that like, I'm a little like sad about um.
Speaker 1: But it only means that we will do this again
Speaker 1: in some other form in the future. That's the silver
Speaker 1: lining is that we discovered in doing this that it
Speaker 1: is going to we wanted to be a part of,
Speaker 1: like the last coach and I believe that winning, winning
Speaker 1: the culture is gonna be and that you got like
Speaker 1: there's the Emmy, the Grammy, the Oscar of the Tony
Speaker 1: and the culture and culture is a beautiful yeah, oh
Speaker 1: my god, it's a beautiful shape prism. Yeah, it's brutalist.
Speaker 1: It's brutalist. Um. I we quickly want to say, oh,
Speaker 1: thank you to the Lincoln Center for helping us make
Speaker 1: that show free. That was the reason why. I think
Speaker 1: that was the reason why the energy was so nice.
Speaker 1: And thank you God for the weather. The weather, Thank
Speaker 1: you God. Might have to be a Christian again. For that,
Speaker 1: one might have to sign up for Christianity again, sign
Speaker 1: up for the newsletter, sign up for the fucking subs. Jack,
Speaker 1: there's some drama and Christianity right now. Pope Francis might resign.
Speaker 1: That's drama, that it's a sli a dramatic and a
Speaker 1: dramatic way. I just think it was so important that
Speaker 1: it was a free show, and I was so great
Speaker 1: only to free shows from now on it I know, UM,
Speaker 1: do be too. I don't think so, honey, I think
Speaker 1: we should do. I don't think so, honey. Um. This
Speaker 1: is our sixty second segment. By the way, congratulations to
Speaker 1: our best I don't think so, honey, of all time
Speaker 1: winner Aaron Jackson for going to church on Wednesdays and Sunday's. Um,
Speaker 1: we did a live performance of it altogether as a
Speaker 1: three thousand person crowd. That was one of the great
Speaker 1: moments of my life. Scared him and some of you,
Speaker 1: some of you described that as cultish behavior, which yeah
Speaker 1: for us to say, we but we. By the way,
Speaker 1: we will be posting all the winners. We will post there.
Speaker 1: There are so many slides and all the winners and
Speaker 1: they will get posted, so stay tuned for that, but
Speaker 1: for now, here is um some I don't think so
Speaker 1: Honey's from us fresh fresh, Okay, do you have something
Speaker 1: I do? Okay, this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey. As time starts now, I don't think so
Speaker 1: honey people thinking it's a compliment when they say that
Speaker 1: they were turned on by my sex scene and vire Island. Um,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. The sex scene that I do in
Speaker 1: Vire Island is a U is a sort of an
Speaker 1: assault and um, my character is very very very fucked
Speaker 1: up on and it is was unable to consent. So
Speaker 1: do I think, so honey, that I understand what you're saying?
Speaker 1: And I guess I I can take it as a compliment.
Speaker 1: You think the scene is um features an aesthetic that
Speaker 1: you appreciate. That's great, But I think we're missing the
Speaker 1: point if are saying that it made you horny or
Speaker 1: that you wanted to participate in it because my character
Speaker 1: was being assaulted um, or at the very least, you
Speaker 1: shouldn't want to have sex with someone that looks like that,
Speaker 1: and is um experiencing sex in that way? So I
Speaker 1: think that well, I do think so honey that I
Speaker 1: appreciate the sentiment of what you're saying. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: that we're going about this the right way. It makes
Speaker 1: me feel a little awkward when you say that this
Speaker 1: is something that you like got turned on by. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, that this is the vibe. I
Speaker 1: don't that's one minute. Yeah, I'm gonna agree with that one.
Speaker 1: It's like I've been getting a couple of d ms
Speaker 1: when it's like, wow, I really want to I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to do that to him, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, is so dark. Did they understand what
Speaker 1: was done to him? I think maybe? And then I
Speaker 1: think maybe no, Maybe they didn't get it. Maybe they
Speaker 1: like don't see they forget that there's a camera in
Speaker 1: that space that was not where the person was not
Speaker 1: consenting to being recorded, or I don't know. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think that was nest necessarily the vibe we were
Speaker 1: going for of like hot and to turn you on.
Speaker 1: But like, um, I appreciate um at least that's six
Speaker 1: percent of what you're saying, but don't get in my
Speaker 1: d ms with that. That's not yeah, um anything. And
Speaker 1: I'm sad. I'm sad that this is the third Oh,
Speaker 1: this is not that they're showing the road. I'm about
Speaker 1: to I'm gonna do something related to the film as well. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's the last It's the last thing that I need
Speaker 1: to say before we like close the books forever. Well,
Speaker 1: we Bowen and I are doing one more big old
Speaker 1: TV appearance together and we're not going to talk about
Speaker 1: it because we don't want to drink it. But it's
Speaker 1: so ice to say it's a slay as to say
Speaker 1: I don't know a girl. Okay, this is how many
Speaker 1: things I don't think, so honey. Time starts now. I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. People saying to us, I wanted
Speaker 1: to hate the movie, but I was charmed by the end.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you think that's trying to say.
Speaker 1: If you're trying to come off cool or contrarian or
Speaker 1: some one who um is not like other girls, it
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter to me that we want you over.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you liked it, but I just think
Speaker 1: that little asterisk is so strange and I don't know
Speaker 1: what to do with that information. And to be honest,
Speaker 1: put off by that that you wanted to hate it
Speaker 1: that means that that's something you should examine. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: sure I've said those words about a film that I
Speaker 1: ended up liking. Did not say that to one of
Speaker 1: the people involved in the making of that film. So
Speaker 1: that's the thing that you must try to understand, is
Speaker 1: that you're talking to someone who had some stake in
Speaker 1: the project and you're telling them that, for whatever weird reason,
Speaker 1: you wanted to dislike it in your predisposition. And that's
Speaker 1: one minute. I just feel like people might not realize this,
Speaker 1: but it's giving self hate in a way that's like
Speaker 1: really jarring to be on the opposite side of Maybe
Speaker 1: it's not even self hate, it's just, um, you don't understand,
Speaker 1: like it's it's giving like inconsiderate, it's giving root. It's
Speaker 1: just I'm just saying it's rude. I'm just saying it,
Speaker 1: Like even when it's been like someone who's not a
Speaker 1: gay person, a queer person who comes up, Um, I'm
Speaker 1: just like, why did you say that? Why did you
Speaker 1: say that when you know when you know that I'm involved,
Speaker 1: I've only experienced this from other gay men, and it's
Speaker 1: sort of like, so I guess that's when I say
Speaker 1: like like it's like it's like, okay, so something that
Speaker 1: you know people worked hard on and like you know,
Speaker 1: put a lot of effort into, it's like you really
Speaker 1: wanted to hate it, like based on what I I
Speaker 1: guess it's maybe like I've heard someone say like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: because we've been burned in the past, or like the
Speaker 1: caliber has been so low over the years that it's
Speaker 1: it's made me distrustful of like a gay movie. That's
Speaker 1: different than wanting to hate it, though I want, oh sure, sure, sure,
Speaker 1: having live expectations is different than wanting to hate it.
Speaker 1: But even even then, even the live expectations think, which
Speaker 1: I understand better than wanting to hate it, the lower
Speaker 1: expectations thing is going well. Like the shitty quote unquote
Speaker 1: gay stuff that came out before like still had a purpose.
Speaker 1: It's still like was something I don't know, Like, well
Speaker 1: it doesn't it didn't have a delatarious effect on like
Speaker 1: what you could consume as a gay person, and hopefully
Speaker 1: this is just nice and additive to that. But then
Speaker 1: like I don't know, some of these people go, um,
Speaker 1: we've been burned in the past, but I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It just it doesn't matter to me. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess my thing is just like it's a comfort
Speaker 1: level with letting. It's it's like you said, it's like
Speaker 1: just so you know, I'm cool, and I don't care
Speaker 1: that you're cool like I You're probably you're probably not
Speaker 1: in the same way that I'm not, Like nobody like stop.
Speaker 1: I just yeah, it's like it's like almost like letting,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's like a thing of like I
Speaker 1: wanted to hate it, like and I am someone who
Speaker 1: can come in and say, like my taste level was
Speaker 1: like superior, like and I of course I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to stoop to liking something like this. It just it
Speaker 1: doesn't feel good in the moment receiving it. And it's
Speaker 1: just I've said I wanted to hate this thing about
Speaker 1: a million different things, probably very recently, but I didn't
Speaker 1: say that to the person involved. The person Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's weird. It's so fucking brainless to me. Yeah anyway,
Speaker 1: you know, but the fact is, um, it seems like
Speaker 1: most of you and even if you did hate it whatever,
Speaker 1: like hate it, you know what I mean, Like even
Speaker 1: Joe Kim is so like, yeah, if you hate it, fine,
Speaker 1: but it's the telling of that to us, just like Okay,
Speaker 1: nice to meet you, yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Anyways, Um,
Speaker 1: we gotta make this a short one today. Sorry, but
Speaker 1: um it's for a good reason. And we hope everyone's
Speaker 1: having a nice end to their Pride month and we're
Speaker 1: going to talk to you soon. We have some good
Speaker 1: episodes coming up if if everything goes as planned, and
Speaker 1: in the meantime, be spending that song that be all
Speaker 1: say a song and we do every end every episode
Speaker 1: with a song. I'm telling everybody, everybody, you won't break
Speaker 1: my soup. You will bring my girl. Listen to stick
Speaker 1: break my soul. Bye bye,