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Speaker 1: reinvented exclusively from Verizon Wireless. Hi, everybody, welcome to Tech Stuff.

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Speaker 1: My name is Chris Pollette. I'm an editor and how

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Speaker 1: stuff Works dot Com. And as usual, I have sitting

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Speaker 1: here right next to me senior writer Jonathan Strickland. Shalom Pillett, Well,

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Speaker 1: shalom me youtuo. How are you today? I'm doing all right? Yea.

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Speaker 1: So we were, I don't know, going to talk about

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Speaker 1: some applications. Yeah, it's mobile applications. Yeah, they're hard to

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Speaker 1: pin down, but because they're mobile, in case you guys

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Speaker 1: didn't get that, because they're mobile. So yeah, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about mobile phone applications and mobile device applications. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's the that's the new, big, big thing, right, I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: mainly because smartphones have hit the consumer market. And now

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Speaker 1: that they have and everyone's starting to pick up these

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Speaker 1: phones that can do lots of cool stuff, They're like,

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Speaker 1: where's all the cool stuff I can do, and so

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Speaker 1: we've got all these developers creating really interesting applications. So

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Speaker 1: we wanted to talk a little bit about the different

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Speaker 1: Apple app stores that are out there, and um, you

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Speaker 1: know what kind of sets them apart, and maybe talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit about a couple of applications that we use, because,

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Speaker 1: as many of our listeners have probably already figured out,

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Speaker 1: Chris is worships at the altar of Apple and um

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Speaker 1: can we can talk about the various apps we use

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Speaker 1: on our our our mobile devices. Well, um, what do

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Speaker 1: to start with the actual apps themselves? If we do,

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Speaker 1: I gotta turn my phone on. Okay, well let's you know,

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Speaker 1: I feel like we should probably start by pointing out

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Speaker 1: that this is all sort of Apple's fault, for good

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Speaker 1: it was locked down. Ha ha that's a big surprise

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Speaker 1: coming from Apple. Okay, so yeah, exactly. Um. But with

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Speaker 1: to developers and um, yes, it is still very difficult

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Speaker 1: for me not to quote Steve Bomber and say developers

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Speaker 1: I know, thank you, except I mentioned it, so I didn't.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Apple, Apple sort of unleashed the genie from

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Speaker 1: the bottle in this case because UM, I don't. I

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Speaker 1: one billion app downloads from the app store mine buggling, Well,

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Speaker 1: In fact, I would go so far to say in

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Speaker 1: it was bound to happen because number one, they were

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Speaker 1: You never know I'm teasing. Nintendo has a similar policy

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Speaker 1: app stores. How about you? You know what that brings

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Speaker 1: us to? Listener? Mai, So today's listening al comes from

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Speaker 1: Sylvia and it's a doozy. Here we go. Hi there.

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Speaker 1: You recently had a podcast about digital cameras where you

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Speaker 1: recommended holding your sunglasses in front of the lens to

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Speaker 1: For listeners who don't know how polarizers work, you should

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Speaker 1: scene and reducing the contrast. This is also true amountable

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Speaker 1: polarizers if you have the kind of camera which rotates

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Speaker 1: you mentioned that a polarizer can protect the lens. That

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Speaker 1: was Chris who mentioned that this is true, but at

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Speaker 1: a cost, since polarizers chew up some of the light

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Speaker 1: which are just high quality pieces of flat glass you

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Speaker 1: a passing door knobs. True experience. Listen to your podcast.

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Speaker 1: I learned so much from you guys. Keep up the

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Speaker 1: good work. That's our haiku. Thank you Sylvia very much

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Speaker 1: for that. That was very informative, and um, I'm so

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Speaker 1: glad to hear about the daylight filters now. I I

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Speaker 1: wrote back to Sylvia and mentioned that I use a

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Speaker 1: I have to admit, maybe you do learn a lot

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Speaker 1: from us, Sylvia, but I learned a lot from you too,

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Speaker 1: So thank you very much for writing in Yeah, greatly

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Speaker 1: appreciate it, And if any of you have anything you'd

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Speaker 1: here just about blogs at this point, it seems so

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