Speaker 1: Broadcasting from the Hip Hop Weekly Studios. I'd like to
Speaker 1: welcome you to another episode of Civic Cipher, where our
Speaker 1: mission is to foster allyship, empathy and understanding. I am
Speaker 1: your host, Ramsey's job. Big shout out to my man
Speaker 1: q Ward, who is traveling for a funeral, so our
Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers go out to him and his family
Speaker 1: this week. But have no fear. This is business as usual,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna hold it down here in studio. Live
Speaker 1: on deck with me is the one and only Jacob
Speaker 1: Rayford aka Rocky Tirade, the hip hop activist and community
Speaker 1: organizer extraordinaire. Today we're going to be discussing ways communities
Speaker 1: and individuals can organize and respond to political hostilities as
Speaker 1: well as local grievances. So welcome back to the show.
Speaker 1: It's good to have you, bank you, Yeah, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me back of course, of course, man,
Speaker 1: So stick around. We're going to be discussing we've had
Speaker 1: a number of like police shootings of on our black
Speaker 1: men or whether or not they're arm posing no threat,
Speaker 1: you know whatever. The kid, I gotta be mindful that
Speaker 1: it's not illegal to have a gun. But we're gonna
Speaker 1: we picked one story to talk about it just because
Speaker 1: we've been covering so much in the political space and
Speaker 1: a lot of like boycotts, things like this. We we
Speaker 1: can't overlook kind of what's happening on the ground and
Speaker 1: what the community's response to that could be, should be,
Speaker 1: what it looks like now given the current political climate,
Speaker 1: So we appreciate you taking the time out to come
Speaker 1: and discuss that with us. For those that are able
Speaker 1: to the second part of today's program, we're going to
Speaker 1: be discussing Trump's address to Congress. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe yeah, you know, delusion may well maybe we want
Speaker 1: we want to jump ahead, We want to jump at
Speaker 1: any event. That and so much more to stick around
Speaker 1: for on today's episode of Civic c Apper. But before
Speaker 1: we go any further, as always, it's time to share
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Speaker 1: big shout out to doctor Green fighting cancer. Uh as
Speaker 1: only as only a black woman could. All right, So,
Speaker 1: Jacob Brayford, that is uh, you know, we won't pretend
Speaker 1: that we don't know each other. Rocky. Yeah, and do
Speaker 1: me a favor for folks that that may not know
Speaker 1: about your your activism. You know, give a little bit
Speaker 1: of background just so people know who we're talking to today. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I guess I came up in the shows Rocky
Speaker 2: Tirade or you know, however you want to address me,
Speaker 2: Jacob Brayford. But I got started. You know, I've been
Speaker 2: doing this for like the past decade or so a
Speaker 2: little bit over a decade since you know, the days
Speaker 2: of the occupy movement and things of that nature, and
Speaker 2: then showing up is like, you know, someone who is
Speaker 2: just a concerned citizen pertaining to things that were going
Speaker 2: on at that time, whether it was the mishandling of
Speaker 2: our law enforcement agencies or the criminal justice system, uh,
Speaker 2: the the harming of black men at the hands of
Speaker 2: law enforcement officers. But showing up in terms of like
Speaker 2: speaking up and being a part of a collective that
Speaker 2: spoke truth to power. It was something I've been doing
Speaker 2: for the past decade. But what really brought me into
Speaker 2: this space I was in twenty twenty during the demonstrations,
Speaker 2: the nationwide demonstrations surrounding George Floyd and overall again the
Speaker 2: mishandling of our law enforcement agencies, particularly in regard to
Speaker 2: black men. So it was one of the individuals who
Speaker 2: helped form the organization in Phoenix, Arizona called the Rising Project,
Speaker 2: and we let sustained demonstrations centered around that and then
Speaker 2: you know, just really intersectional allyship for about about five
Speaker 2: months or so, And it was one of those moments
Speaker 2: that inspired me to continue my work in that particular field.
Speaker 2: The next year was centered around pushing for an advocacy
Speaker 2: program a centered around victimist non violent dispatches. You know,
Speaker 2: we come from hip hop, so we called it the
Speaker 2: Neighborhood Organized Crisis Assistance Program or no CAP, but we're
Speaker 2: talking about behavioral health, substance abuse, the in house community,
Speaker 2: anything that's a victimists and non violent dispatch in general.
Speaker 2: We advocated for a program within the City of Phoenix
Speaker 2: centered around that, and of course the tenants were eventually
Speaker 2: adopted into a similar shell program and then the development continues,
Speaker 2: but fell into the ACLU here in Arizona and nationally
Speaker 2: as a board member vice president here in Arizona, but
Speaker 2: also working within you know, the local political space as
Speaker 2: a co chair of the Black Engagement Committee former COOPADEMS,
Speaker 2: which is really the primited like county Democratic County in
Speaker 2: the United States is one of the largest counties, largest
Speaker 2: in population, and of course in a swing state such
Speaker 2: as Arizona that does hold a considerable amount of weight.
Speaker 2: And then also you know, just utilizing my ability to
Speaker 2: operate in this space and connect people to move specific
Speaker 2: you know policies, advocate for policies, push for elections that
Speaker 2: are centered around you know, things that we value as
Speaker 2: progressive folks, and then of course working in the Arizona
Speaker 2: Democratic Party as the political directors. So I mean, it's
Speaker 2: just a long laundry list of random things, but all
Speaker 2: of that ties to me being a hip hop artist
Speaker 2: like it, you know, the ability to communicate things that
Speaker 2: I'm passionate about and then connect people together.
Speaker 1: It should we do, sure, Sure, And you know, one
Speaker 1: of the other things is that, you know, it's important
Speaker 1: to bear in mind that you know, my background is
Speaker 1: in hip hop radio, and initially I knew you as
Speaker 1: an artist, and so you know, when you made this
Speaker 1: transition and started to kind of take on more of
Speaker 1: a national stage with your with your activism, uh, and
Speaker 1: then this show, of course began to grow as well.
Speaker 1: We often would would lean on you for your expertise
Speaker 1: because while we're very good at making radio programming, we
Speaker 1: are not necessarily community organizers in the same way we're
Speaker 1: not necessarily were well, this this is very community d
Speaker 1: really well to be fairer r, you know, in terms
Speaker 1: of getting folks out on the streets and marching. That's
Speaker 1: sort of thing I've always found myself in the march,
Speaker 1: not kind of organizing the march right, And so you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people around the country who I
Speaker 1: feel are really wanting to explore new ways of pushing
Speaker 1: back against what many folks feel as a hostile, you know, administration.
Speaker 1: And so again, your expertise and insight into matters like
Speaker 1: this will certainly help those folks around the country. So absolutely, Again,
Speaker 1: the story that we chose is Q's fingerprints are on
Speaker 1: the episode, just so you know he's He's just at
Speaker 1: a funeral. But we picked this story. It's from the
Speaker 1: Black Information Network, and I'll share it with you. Video
Speaker 1: footage has been released of a fatal police shooting that
Speaker 1: left a sixteen year old black teen dead as he
Speaker 1: was fleeing from another shooting, per NBC San Diego. On Friday,
Speaker 1: February twenty first authorities released video footage of the January
Speaker 1: shooting involving San Diego Police Department officer Daniel Gold and
Speaker 1: the teenager. Surveillance video showed the teen walking toward a
Speaker 1: group of miners when suddenly one of the kids opened fire.
Speaker 1: The sixteen year old boy ran for his life after
Speaker 1: the other child fired at least two shots at him.
Speaker 1: Gold was responding to an unrelated call in that area
Speaker 1: when he encountered the teen at the Santa Fe depot.
Speaker 1: The officer shot him at close range. The boy tried
Speaker 1: to run away before he collapsed. Officers performed CPR on him,
Speaker 1: after which he was taken to a hospital, where he
Speaker 1: was pronounced dead. Following the teen's collapse, officers said they
Speaker 1: found a gun concealed under his clothes. However, there are
Speaker 1: no signs that the teen ever fired the gun or
Speaker 1: was holding it when Gold fatally shot him. The San
Speaker 1: Diego County Sheriff's Office has launched an investigation into the
Speaker 1: officer's use of force. Following the probe, the District Attorney's
Speaker 1: office will decide whether to pursue charges against Gold. Another
Speaker 1: sixteen year old has been arrested in connection to the
Speaker 1: initial shooting that occurred prior to the victim's fatal encounter
Speaker 1: with police. So again, and I want to I want
Speaker 1: to remind folks that we picked one story. There are
Speaker 1: tons of these stories and we just haven't been able
Speaker 1: to get to them. We have an hour show, you know,
Speaker 1: but this one, it it felt like we needed to
Speaker 1: to talk about this one. And with again with this
Speaker 1: current administration, with you know, the president very pro police,
Speaker 1: with his right hand person hinting that George Floyd should
Speaker 1: receive a presidential pardon. It kind of gives exactly exactly
Speaker 1: did I say that wrong?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Georg George like Derek Shelvin, And that's
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, absolutely, And uh, you know, they're they're
Speaker 1: very much you know, pro police. And anytime the police,
Speaker 1: you know, are under screwtiney or held accountable or something
Speaker 1: that it feels like this administration is going to push
Speaker 1: back against any sort of police accountability. And so we
Speaker 1: need to have a conversation about how we show our
Speaker 1: displeasure with the police. So really, before we start, give
Speaker 1: me your your thoughts on the story that that we
Speaker 1: just read, and then I'll ask a few questions.
Speaker 2: You know, I want to even say it's not even
Speaker 2: because I know when certain people hear at the term ProPolice,
Speaker 2: they'll say, well, I like law enforcement, and you know,
Speaker 2: of course, like the tenets of like protecting our community
Speaker 2: you know, should be important. But you know, the language
Speaker 2: the connotation behind that is the lack of accountability, you know,
Speaker 2: turning weaponizing community resources that are supposed to again as
Speaker 2: we recognize them to be like serve or as they
Speaker 2: should be serve and protect our community and that is
Speaker 2: all community members. And when it is there is an
Speaker 2: overhanded or heavy handed, disproportionately you know, aggressive response to
Speaker 2: urban communities and within that black people specifically, and within
Speaker 2: that black men specifically, that is a problem. So, you know,
Speaker 2: and I know that there's other things taking place in
Speaker 2: in this in in this current environment, this this current
Speaker 2: point in time, but we can't shy away from things
Speaker 2: that have continued to exist and will exist within the
Speaker 2: background while we talk about other economic issues and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, which is the mishandling of our community resources,
Speaker 2: and that would be our first responder system and within
Speaker 2: that the police department and within specific communities such as
Speaker 2: San Diego, and then what we have experienced with different
Speaker 2: DJ investigations and things of that nature within different communities,
Speaker 2: Phoenix being one of them. You know, But we need
Speaker 2: to address alternative to police responses. I think that is
Speaker 2: the overarching I guess unifying centralized conversation. How do we
Speaker 2: create a non violent response to dispatches that are not
Speaker 2: warranted in violence if something has already occurred, you know,
Speaker 2: that should not like showing up with you know, guns
Speaker 2: drawn or ready to further escalate a situation. Is it's
Speaker 2: a point at that in that particular point in time
Speaker 2: because the transgres transgression has already passed. But you know,
Speaker 2: looking at that, I see it's no different than what
Speaker 2: we experienced, would say, Anthony Conna or mistaken identity situations
Speaker 2: like James Garcia or again a you know, unnecessarily violent
Speaker 2: response that's such a you know, Alton Sterling, you know, uh, Brianna,
Speaker 2: you know, going back and forth, Sean Bell, I mean,
Speaker 2: we can we can con see exactly.
Speaker 1: Let me let me offer this too while we're here.
Speaker 1: You know, I've heard a lot of good ideas that
Speaker 1: really bring the conversation back to police accountability and for
Speaker 1: folks around the country who do want to organize, who
Speaker 1: do want to you know, push back against, you know,
Speaker 1: the hostilities they may experience in their own community at
Speaker 1: the hands of police. One of the things that I
Speaker 1: that I strongly believe in is having police carry insurance.
Speaker 1: I think that that is something that if an officer
Speaker 1: carries insurance, you know, their premiums go higher if they
Speaker 1: are prone to misconduct, and then they become uninsurable at
Speaker 1: a point if they you know, step over the line
Speaker 1: if they're an habitual line stepper, so to speak. Another
Speaker 1: thing that you know, I've learned just kind of traveling
Speaker 1: around the world is that you know, here in this country,
Speaker 1: police carry their guns on their person, and they're trained
Speaker 1: to respond to fear, and therefore they when they show up,
Speaker 1: they're looking for the thing to be afraid of. And
Speaker 1: if in other countries, they'll keep their guns in the
Speaker 1: trunk of the car, and if it necessary, then they
Speaker 1: go and get the trunk. And I think that things
Speaker 1: like this can certainly impact the disproportionate amount of executions
Speaker 1: of young black men that we see in this country
Speaker 1: at the hands of police. And one more thing I
Speaker 1: do want to say, because I do know that in
Speaker 1: this article the young man was carrying a gun. But
Speaker 1: for folks with a modicum of empathy that may not
Speaker 1: agree with the premise of this show, I need you
Speaker 1: to imagine that, and I don't know this to be
Speaker 1: factual in this story, but imagine that this young man
Speaker 1: lives in an environment where it's very tense and it's
Speaker 1: a scary place. There's a lot of economic inequality, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of systemic things that have resulted in you know,
Speaker 1: certain environments just not being doing as well as others, right,
Speaker 1: and walking to school is scary. You know, people will
Speaker 1: steal your shoes and you know people will try to
Speaker 1: jump you or people whatever. Right, And so you know,
Speaker 1: at sixteen years old, whereas most people are playing basketball,
Speaker 1: you know, just being sixteen, you resort to carrying a gun.
Speaker 1: And as it turns out in his case, there are
Speaker 1: people out there who do want to hurt you. It's
Speaker 1: another sixteen year old, but you know, this is the
Speaker 1: environment that this child lived in. And as we've seen,
Speaker 1: the police are also trying to get you. And we
Speaker 1: you know Exhibits an artist that we kind of grew
Speaker 1: up with, and he has a song where in the
Speaker 1: hook he says, I'd rather be caught with it than
Speaker 1: caught without one, referring to a gun. And so I
Speaker 1: say this to suggest to people that may not agree
Speaker 1: with the premise of the show that it is this
Speaker 1: child was born into a set of circumstances and an
Speaker 1: environment that was hostile towards him. And this was a
Speaker 1: move that he perhaps made, and he didn't show the
Speaker 1: gun to the officer, none of that, so he lost
Speaker 1: his life. Neither.
Speaker 2: Can I say something, Yeah, he like when you look
Speaker 2: at the advocacy around you know, the right to bear
Speaker 2: arms that is centered around life preservation. There is a
Speaker 2: sense of desperation within that. Regardless of whatever economic standing
Speaker 2: you're in, what moment in history you're in, and where
Speaker 2: you live your background. Life preservation is the reason why
Speaker 2: the majority of people carry or or purchased, especially in
Speaker 2: these times. You look at the massive amount of people
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. It wasn't just toilet paper that people
Speaker 2: were buying. They were buying ways to protect their family.
Speaker 2: And when you know, we could talk about the social
Speaker 2: economic issues and all the nuance that ties into that,
Speaker 2: which would result in someone living in a state of
Speaker 2: feeling that they need to preserve their you know, their
Speaker 2: you know, their body bodily integrity, or protect protect their
Speaker 2: protect themselves. We can look at it from that stance,
Speaker 2: and we can also say that no one was harmed
Speaker 2: in that particular situation. There was no threat, There was
Speaker 2: no reason to draw and kill a human being, a child.
Speaker 1: So I just know how folks on their rights. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well he had a gun, so he had it coming, right,
Speaker 1: and they lose sight of the fact, right, And.
Speaker 2: Then we could say he had you know, someone had
Speaker 2: a cigarette, someone potentially had a gun which was a wallet,
Speaker 2: someone had a loud voice, someone was taking the wrong train,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, why did he run away? You know,
Speaker 2: So it's it's always a looking at that. It's like
Speaker 2: the common denominator is, you know, this kind of ethnocentric
Speaker 2: prejudice that you know, uh, you know, black folks, black
Speaker 2: men in particularly particular, have experienced for hundreds of years,
Speaker 2: and you know, we need to be in a space
Speaker 2: to be able to speak about that and how we
Speaker 2: can address it in substantive ways, one of which is
Speaker 2: addressing the lack of accountability in this particular space and
Speaker 2: that his you know historically mind you, and how we
Speaker 2: can as a community come together recognize that, you know,
Speaker 2: if we do not push for a level of accountability,
Speaker 2: a system of accountability and allow you know, these individuals
Speaker 2: who engage in illegal or you know, practices and things
Speaker 2: of that nature to be held legally responsible, we are
Speaker 2: going to continue to perpetuate this issue. And right now
Speaker 2: as we go into further like strenuous times and emotionally
Speaker 2: trying times with this current administration, and how that just
Speaker 2: trickles down in society there's going to be more cases
Speaker 2: where you know, people are in this low vibrational state
Speaker 2: that results in someone end up ending up engaging in
Speaker 2: harmful behavior against a citizen or community member while representing
Speaker 2: their the the city and its municipal resources.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, under normal circumstances, you know,
Speaker 1: something like this happens, the community gets together and they
Speaker 1: they protest, they organize, and they you know, galvanize their
Speaker 1: voices and they you know, approach the police department and
Speaker 1: they insist on accountability and change and things like that.
Speaker 1: Do you think or how about this? Because I know
Speaker 1: that the answer to that would be yes. But in
Speaker 1: what ways do you think this administration will affect people's
Speaker 1: capacity to to pro test what they feel is injustice.
Speaker 2: I mean, we already see it right now. And it's
Speaker 2: regardless of the type of demonstration, whether it's when of
Speaker 2: the's something that involves someone gaining a permit and then
Speaker 2: you know, having a giant rally in a park or
Speaker 2: at a capital, or you know a group of activists
Speaker 2: or organizations just deciding to you know, utilize their constitutional
Speaker 2: right and engage in a peaceful, non violent demonstration. This
Speaker 2: has the the uptick in the past, what thirty what
Speaker 2: about forty days or so, you know, since this new
Speaker 2: administration has it has risen exponentially. So I mean, of
Speaker 2: course it is encouraged for people to engage in dialogue
Speaker 2: and then ask what they could do. But you know,
Speaker 2: the real what's next is to get involved in your
Speaker 2: local political structure to affect policy change. So in a
Speaker 2: way that's meaningful. So we have, you know, within your
Speaker 2: party within your state, there is you know, your your
Speaker 2: state party, you may have your county party. And then
Speaker 2: within particularly work depending on where you live, whether it's
Speaker 2: a board or you have a district, you have your
Speaker 2: the party within that particular structure, and within that it's
Speaker 2: broken down because you know how you have for instance,
Speaker 2: like you said, hey, you have like a school district.
Speaker 2: For instance, we have in using Arizona as an example
Speaker 2: on overspeaking to the entire nation, but we have what's
Speaker 2: called a legislative districts, and within that district are precincts
Speaker 2: which make up those districts. Within those precincts, it is
Speaker 2: operated by what are called precinct committee people, and within
Speaker 2: the United States it may be called precinct committee officers.
Speaker 2: Like in Washington or I believe, Pennsylvania. But it's the
Speaker 2: same structure. So you have the foundation of that, which
Speaker 2: would be the precinct committee people or precint committee officers.
Speaker 2: They represent that legislative district and its party, and then
Speaker 2: you know that is how you can be directly connected
Speaker 2: to your party. The elected officials serve as a conduit
Speaker 2: between your community. I believe, for instance, the state of Arizona,
Speaker 2: I think it's one hundred and twenty five. For instance,
Speaker 2: registered Democrats makes up one precinct committee person, So you're
Speaker 2: talking about someone who is a representative of their entire community.
Speaker 2: And when you add to that, you have the politically,
Speaker 2: you have the ability to affect policy change, run for
Speaker 2: office within your local party, and affect your county party
Speaker 2: for instance. You're talking about something that is revolutionary in
Speaker 2: terms of our involvement in this space. The antithesis of
Speaker 2: that is when Steve Bannon ten or so years ago
Speaker 2: was telling people, if you have an issue with the
Speaker 2: Republican Party, become a precinct committee person and then take
Speaker 2: over your party, and now we have an entire maga cult.
Speaker 2: So the good natured version of that is people who
Speaker 2: are finding issues within their municipal structure, city state, what
Speaker 2: have you. Society in general become a part of the solution.
Speaker 2: It's never about, oh, the Democrats. It's not this like
Speaker 2: collective person. A party is nothing more than a set
Speaker 2: of administrative paperwork, legal paperwork, a domain name, and a
Speaker 2: bank account. It is a vehicle if you want to
Speaker 2: compare it to anything, and if you don't like where
Speaker 2: it is going, get in a vehicle and help change
Speaker 2: it in a different direction that is more centered around
Speaker 2: your community values. And we see that take place whether
Speaker 2: it's in our immediate region, within other communities, and the
Speaker 2: substantial history defining effect that it has within that particular
Speaker 2: political space, it is incredibly powerful and incredibly important. Without
Speaker 2: getting to verbos, I'll lastly say, one worker ant can't
Speaker 2: do much, but an entire colony can change the entire
Speaker 2: ecosystem or landscape around it. And that is exactly what
Speaker 2: a precinct committee person is. No money obligation, no time obligation.
Speaker 2: It is what you make of it. But you are
Speaker 2: politically empowered to make a difference.
Speaker 1: Because I thought we would have a conversation about protesting,
Speaker 1: but it seems like this is something that the individuals
Speaker 1: can do right without needing to reach. Like let's say
Speaker 1: a person has fifty Instagram followers, but they're fed up
Speaker 1: and they want to, you know, have their voice be heard.
Speaker 1: Or you know, we we saw recently Donald Trump say
Speaker 1: that he's going to pull federal funding from campuses that
Speaker 1: allow illegal protests. Yeah, and you know who decides what
Speaker 1: an illegal protest is? And when you have you know,
Speaker 1: thousands of people protesting, maybe one or two people might
Speaker 1: step out of line illegal and then you know, so
Speaker 1: so protesting in and of itself is under attack in
Speaker 1: addition to you know, free speech and you know, congressional
Speaker 1: oversight and you know all that sort of stuff. But
Speaker 1: it seems like this this PCP a precint committee person
Speaker 1: or prect committee officer, I saying it wrong a pc OC.
Speaker 1: So depending on where you're at, sorry, you know, prect
Speaker 1: committee officers, say, like in Washington or Pennsylvania or some
Speaker 1: other states. In Arizona, where you know, I am based
Speaker 1: out of, it's called a precinct committee person or a
Speaker 1: pret committee woman, prec and committee man, so on and
Speaker 1: so forth. This is it's a person that speaks, that
Speaker 1: is that is a part of their districts party or
Speaker 1: their legislative districts party and also their county party. So me,
Speaker 1: I'm a precinct committee person and I live in Tempe.
Speaker 1: I'm in North Tempe. It's called Legislative District eight. So
Speaker 1: I was the the coult the vice chair of that.
Speaker 1: So I helped direct the uh, you know, basically the
Speaker 1: whole organizational structure of that of that party. So how
Speaker 1: does a person become that? Is it? You like, go
Speaker 1: to your local city website.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you can. You can go to your state's
Speaker 2: democratic website for instance, if we're using the Democratic Party
Speaker 2: as an example, and then you know, they'll ask how
Speaker 2: how to get engaged or where in the state that
Speaker 2: you live in, for instance, Arizona. On azyledge dot org,
Speaker 2: for instance, they have an entire map of Arizona and
Speaker 2: it says, okay, find where you live, and it's this
Speaker 2: interactive map and you can click, say if you live
Speaker 2: in Tucson, you know, you click on that and it'll
Speaker 2: give you the information and and from there it'll direct
Speaker 2: you to where to go to who to contact, so
Speaker 2: on and so forth. So yeah, so in taking it
Speaker 2: back to sorry, taking it back to the protests, people
Speaker 2: are going to show up. People always show up, but
Speaker 2: they expect for these demonstrations to die down. And that
Speaker 2: is what made us so effective, you and me and
Speaker 2: all of our folks who were out there with is
Speaker 2: that not only was it sustained, but we pointed it
Speaker 2: towards a next set of actions and the next set
Speaker 2: of goals.
Speaker 1: So this sounds like the next sets. This is the
Speaker 1: what's next.
Speaker 2: When people are showing up and they're mad, and they're
Speaker 2: taking selfies and they're in that emotional moment, and they
Speaker 2: get in their car and they go home, it shouldn't
Speaker 2: just stop there. Get involved with your party, become a
Speaker 2: precinct committee person and affect change and ensure that your
Speaker 2: party is working on behalf of the values of your community.
Speaker 1: Give me a favor. What is your social media?
Speaker 2: My social media is m R jac O B r
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