WEBVTT - Draft Show_1_21.mp3 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:11.080 Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:14.840 for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:19.080 confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Frisco, and 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:23.680 now your host, Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:27.360 Today is January twenty first, twenty twenty five, and we 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:31.000 are officially ninety three days away from the NFL Draft 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:31.800 in Green. 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:32.520 Bay, Wisconsin. 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:35.919 Welcome into the Draft Show presented by Miller Light. We've 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:39.120 got Zach Wolchuck, Bryan brought us, Tommy Yarsh, Bobby belt On, 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:41.160 Kyle Yeomans with Chris Beam in the back. 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:44.000 We're excited to get rocking this week because we. 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:48.239 Are now in the final countdown to All Star Games. 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:51.240 You've got the Shrine Game coming up this week, You've 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:55.200 got the Senior Bowl next week. Why you Chucklinzachly, I. 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:57.280 Just feel like we're doing this. Chris Collins were a 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.680 slide thing with that. We're staring at a camera though, 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:03.240 Bryan and I are flipping back around. It's like, whoa, 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.080 it's the sliding moment. It's just it is a bit awkward, 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:07.200 but we're doing the best we can. 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:07.480 Bro. 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.520 Remember we're guests here. Okay, whatever they ask us to do. 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:12.160 We do. Hey, I'll get coffee for you. 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:13.880 They tell you to take your shoes off at the 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:15.479 front door, whatever you do it. 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.759 Okay, absolutely, just don't take them off in here, please, 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.679 that's don't worry. Don't do that. Yeah, we've had some 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.440 some episodes in the past. No no, no, yeah, so 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.319 now turn back that way. Just look back at the 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.880 camera and that's just turned back this way, and then 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:29.560 it's all good to go. It's all ready to rock. 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:30.560 See that's easy. 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:32.880 That's like really good that. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:39.160 Yeah, yeah, it was. Yeah, your eye discipline, they all 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:39.600 really good. 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:40.600 Change of direction. 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:43.360 Definitely lacked the long speed, but the explosive first step 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:44.200 quickness is there. 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.280 Yeah, Zach woldschup. Explosive is what I've had all the 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:47.680 way through. 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:49.960 That's the first one I've ever heard that in my life. Yeah. 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.840 Whatever, All right, going into this week, cowboys still without 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.640 a head coach, still without a staff, and uh yet 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.360 we've got shrine bul practices in the Dallas Fort Worth 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.720 Metroplex starting in Denton on Saturday. Brian, I mean, there's 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.920 a lot of intrigue around what direction the Cowboys are 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.200 going to go. Uh, just kind of give us an 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:10.079 outline of where they're at on this point. 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.000 What is the coach from the draft standpoint? Oh, from 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:14.560 the draft. 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.680 Mark, No, I mean, like you said, we've we've kind 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.600 of talked about how you know, you get the scouts 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:25.240 back together, you have cross checks. We talked about player 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:29.519 nine that potentially could be a guy that maybe doesn't fit. 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:31.960 You need to figure out, Okay, who are the coaches 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.760 they're interviewing. Front office is it's going to let you 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:36.880 like listen and we're leaning this way. If he takes 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:38.760 a job, this is the kind of stuff we're going 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:39.760 to have to deal with. 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:41.320 So you just got to be ready. 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.359 You're really kind of on alert right now, and it's 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:47.079 really everything is going forward. You're still evaluating players, you're 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:50.320 doing your cross checks, you're putting your list together. Uh, 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.040 you're just kind of making a plan for them. When 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.760 this switch flips, then you've got to be ready to 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.400 go with the players and have them. These players that 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.360 I'm talking about player nine are players that have already 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:04.040 been evaluated, but they've been given the designation of they're 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:08.480 not our type, but now they might become our type. 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.000 So reports are done that way. You just have to 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.720 make sure that those guys get integrated into the system 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.920 and if anybody has that a grade maybe high enough 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:20.800 to get them on the board for Jerry Steven, Uh, 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.320 you know, for the new coach to be able to 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:26.040 talk about that's what you have to make sure that 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:29.239 you're doing right now. So it's really everything full board 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.800 we've got. We've actually didn't they play a Polynesian the 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:32.799 Polynesian All. 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:34.960 Star Games, Yeah, the Hula Bowl. 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:40.000 Yeah, So there's there's scouts out there actually hitting these 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.720 All Star games as well any any place that they're 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:46.119 playing football and taking heights and weights and stuff like that. 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.160 These guys are out there doing it. So uh, nothing 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.640 has changed from that aspect of it all. But just 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.680 like the you're just a little bit anxious about, Okay, 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:56.840 is it going to be a coach that we're familiar 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:59.680 with or is it a coach from the outside. It 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.600 appear to me though you're kind of talking about some 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:05.000 guys that maybe you're more familiar with that maybe you 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.680 have an idea of how those guys will scout with you. 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:09.600 And a couple of those names, I mean, one of 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.280 them was interviewed this past week and Kellen Moore, the 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.440 current offensive coordinator with the Eagles. You might have to 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.720 wait a little bit for that one, depending on how 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.279 they do in the NFC title game. Another one that's 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:23.120 kind of gotten some recent steam Bobby is Brian Schottenheimer 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:27.080 within the building offensive coordinator past week. Does that change 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.280 a whole lot from a draft standpoint if he's the coach? 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.400 I mean, obviously, if you've got it. I think the 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.840 two big candidates we keep hearing a ton about right now, 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:38.320 or you know, they've interviewed Kellen Moore, They've got Brian 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:43.000 Schottenheimer here already. So this scouting department has worked with 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:46.240 both of those coaches back for so there's an understanding there. 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.960 The other thing I think is it's the famous Bill Parcells. 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:51.720 You know, if I'm gonna cook dinner, you got to 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.200 let me buy the groceries. Not every coach is that way, 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:58.200 but the reality of it is, I think these scouts know, Okay, fine, 0:04:58.279 --> 0:04:59.880 we're gonna do our work, We're gonna put in our 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:03.159 we're gonna we're gonna do our evaluations everything else. Like that. 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.080 When the coach gets in here and tells us, hey, 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.800 I need an onion, I need a tomato, I need that. 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:11.280 Then what Then those scouts go, Okay, I've already evaluated. 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.200 Where's it? Where's the season eight? Over here? Where's the paprika? 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:15.680 All right? I can get you that. I can get you. 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:17.800 I'm gonna go through my evaluations and when you tell 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:19.080 me what you want, I'll tell you all right, here 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:20.719 are the guys. Then, these are the guys that fit 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:21.360 what you're asking me. 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:22.800 Okay, let me ask you a question, Bobby. 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.480 And you're really plugged in on all these stuff with scouts, 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.560 coaches and all that. How much do you think these 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:32.040 scouts want a coach that is going to roll up 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:35.000 sleeves and get involved or do they want a coach 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.640 that is going to let them bring players to them? 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.640 Like I wish to tell coaches, listen, I don't call 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.280 third down defenses, but I could find you a guy 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:44.920 that could stop somebody on third down. 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:46.400 So how involved? 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.920 As you know this group very very well, how much 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.640 do you think they want a hands on coach as 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:54.840 opposed to a coach that's gonna let them cook? 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:58.520 I think they. I think in general, most personnel people 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.000 across the league that I've talked to, they all want 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.839 coaches who are involved. They want coaches who are gonna, 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:05.039 you know, hey, go do the work. 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.000 But how about the guy that walks in and and 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:11.600 and undoes ten months of work like an opinion or 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:12.279 a phone call? 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:14.960 Do you do you want somebody who gets dropped in 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.200 on the process and goes like, well, I'm gonna go 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.520 to war with you on this player right now. No, 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:21.839 but like it's it's easier. Like for instance, we always 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:25.080 heard everybody in this building universally loved dan Quinn. Dan 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.400 Quinn would always go put in the work. I don't 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:29.839 think dan Quinn was ever gonna be a bully with 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:31.960 his opinion or anything else, but there there was a 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.520 respect factor there of just okay, well, well Dan seeing 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:35.680 these guys he was at. 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:38.599 The combine, he was pro There's a difference between actually 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:39.360 going boots on the ground. 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:41.080 I'm gonna work a player and he was going to 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:42.440 see a play and stad like him. 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.599 And he was And Will McLay does a fantastic job 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:48.440 of Hey, coaches, communicate the type of things that you 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.520 like and the type of things you want. Make that 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:52.919 clear to the staff here, and then the staff is 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.000 going to use their talent and their their you know, 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:58.480 evaluation abilities to go find all right, you want a 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.200 receiver who who's really to the change of direction? All right, well, 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:02.640 well my guy will go find it for you. Just 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.279 make sure you're clear about what you need, what you need, 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:06.760 and I'll go in there do it. But I think, yeah, 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.159 there's definitely a respect factor. They're just put in the work. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.320 I think Brian Schttenheimer is a guy who's considered too. 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:12.960 He puts in the work with us, and he goes 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:17.080 on pro day trips and he's involved and respects what 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:18.800 we do, and we respect what he does. And it's 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:19.520 a nice blending. 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:23.200 That's I appreciate that about Jason Garrett because this old 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.080 man being a scout. Sure, you know, I never got 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.920 to scout with Jason, but I would appreciate a guy 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.240 like that. It's a coach working and working in the 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:33.240 building with somebody that respected the scouts. I think the 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:36.160 scouts respect the coaches. I don't think they always get along. 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.720 I mean, I've been in places where coaches and scouts 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:40.960 don't always get along, and that's kind of a tough 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.800 way to operate. But you're going to disagree on players. 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:47.239 The only problem I had with the coach was don't 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:51.800 come in here and watch two games and tell me. 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:52.920 About this player. 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.200 You know, if you're going to study the player, if 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:58.240 you're going to I remember with Drew Henson when way 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.440 back in the day, Sean Payton still up there and 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.200 told the group with Bill Parcells, Jerry Jones, this guy 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:06.240 can't play. Sean really studied him. Sean went through it, 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.240 Sean went through the process. The scouts fought him on that. 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:13.080 But that's where I really started respecting coaches is their ability. 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:15.880 Andy Reid was the same way, John Gruden, the same 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:19.840 way these coaches that work there's will's got to know 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.720 the coaches that can scout and the ones that can't scout. 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:25.760 That's that's the really the key here is he gets 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.520 his staff together. He needs to figure out very quickly 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.079 who can do personnel stuff and who can't. You don't 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.840 want the ones who can't do personnel to ruin it 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.040 for the scouts who were going out there and living 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:37.640 on the road. 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:39.720 Which coach was the worst scout you ever. 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:46.280 Worked to a name? 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:47.760 And still they just like, yeah. 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:52.240 I just remember meetings. I just remember meetings that where 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.839 you would sit there and like if Andy Reid had 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.480 an opinion, if Andy Reid had an opinion. I remember 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.400 Ron Wolf, the Hall of Fame general manager, would go, Okay, 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.200 let's move that, let's adjust like that. In the offensive line, 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.920 it was a lot different. Didn't have didn't maybe move 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.760 the board like we did. We're supposed to. You have 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.520 to prove that you can evaluate. Don't go in there 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.000 and screw the scouts up. Mike Zimmer and I went 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.520 at it one time. You know, one day Mike Zimmer's 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:18.400 fighting for a guy and the next day he doesn't 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.800 fight his hard. I said, you're effing up the scouts 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:22.640 right now. You can't do that. 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:23.640 You got it. 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:27.360 If you're gonna fight, go fight, but don't don't flip flop, 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:29.160 you know, and you're messing up the scouts. 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.240 That's probably why he was five and twenty eight as 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:32.680 a head coach back in the past. 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:34.760 Oh he was, you know, he hes our offensive line 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:36.400 coach with Green Bay Packers, won. 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.040 A Super Bowl with the guy. 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:41.000 Yeah, but but but Tom Levatt was not a very 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:42.439 good evaluated the pick. 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:43.040 Larry Allen. 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:47.200 Nah, the doctors told us that, and I and Ron 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:50.680 Wolf reminded our team doctor doctor McKenzie. Every week, Hey, 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.120 when we play the Cowboys, see that number seventy three. 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.800 He's going to kick our ass today. They see you 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:57.520 know that guy that you failed is going to kick 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:57.840 our ass. 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:00.120 I love it. 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:00.760 I love it. 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.560 Anytime we can dig deep into Brian's past and have 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.600 him Like you said, C four Bridge, I'm always. 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:11.400 For Oh gosh, on time, Michael Irvin came up and 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.160 he went. We drafted Terrell Buckley. We never should have 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.120 done that. He was so short. We couldn't use some 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:17.839 of it. He gets like regret. Would you ask him? 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:21.240 Troy Vincent, Troy Vinson was actually a better player when 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.240 you play. When you play in a cold weather city 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:26.200 and you draft a player from Florida State, it's a different. 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.120 Living in Green Bays different. Troy Vincent went to school 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:32.200 at Wisconsin. They weren't any good, but Troy Vincent was 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.600 a better player because he was bigger, he was tougher, 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:36.680 and he was used to playing in cold weather. Think 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.720 about that when your scout, think about who you're drafting 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:43.160 and how it's going to affect that. That quarterback at 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:48.040 Buffalo perfect, He's perfect for Buffalo craft. He played with 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.400 the Laramie Wyoming Trust me, I've been there. I got 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.520 my ass kicked there War Memorial Stadium. Yeah, trust me 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:57.640 that that right there is perfect conditions for him to 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:58.800 be great in Buffalo. 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:00.920 That's one of the reasons why you should have picked it. 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:02.160 I love it. 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:02.679 I love it. 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:06.600 Last night, the college football season officially came to a 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.560 closed Notre Dame and Ohio State meeting in the National 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.839 Championship Game. Congrats to the Buckeyes getting done thirty four 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.280 to twenty three the final score. They pretty much dominated 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.199 that whole game. Notre Dame did what they could to 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:18.640 get back in it, but there was a lot of 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.480 NFL draft talent on display in that game. Tommy, you 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.720 wrote an article on Dallas Cowboys dot Com that's up 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:26.079 right now if you want to go read it about 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:31.160 some of those exciting different individuals, different draft prospects that 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.280 were on display. Did any of them stick out to 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:34.880 you Before we get in to a little bit of 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:37.840 vier at that, I want to go Mono Emano with 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:39.480 these draft prospects. 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:39.800 Yeah. 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:41.880 Well, Ohio State, from top to bottom I think is 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:43.760 littered with draft talent. I mean, you heard all the 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:45.720 talk coming into college football this year. This is a 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.720 twenty million dollar roster and all that, and they got 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.120 so many of their guys who would have been top 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:54.600 draft prospects last year to return, and I think that 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:55.439 was really big for. 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.640 Them, the whole damn defensive line. Yeah, exactly. 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.959 And speaking of the defensive line, that's what I talked about. 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.720 TYLERK Williams, the big defensive tackle there in the middle, 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:05.400 I thought, had a pretty good game. He was the 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.200 guy where I was talking with Nick Harris about him. 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:08.600 At first, I was like, I don't know if I'm 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.880 sold on this TYLERK. Williams kid and the college football playoff, 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:15.480 He's completely changed my mind. Really powerful in there on 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.599 the inside. Great plug, welcome to the good side. Yeah, 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.040 great plug and up space against the run, and he 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.560 did a good job of just collapsing the pocket I 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.480 think to close out the season two and then they've 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.480 got the pair of edge rushers and Jack Sawyer and JT. 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.800 T really really talented guys there. But I know a 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:33.480 lot of the talk has been on the offensive side 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.960 of the ball for Ohio State. I've obviously got that 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.960 freak show and Jeremiah Smith. He's not draft eligible until 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:42.120 twenty twenty seven, so that leaves you with Quinn Shawn Judkins, 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.920 Trevion Henderson and a Mecho Buca. Three guys that I 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.960 talked about. Judkins six touchdowns in the last four games 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.360 the season. In the College Football Playoff, he played really 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.240 well Henderson. You know, they kind of have that thunder 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.720 and lightning to him. I think are sonic and knuckles 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:56.880 is what it was in Detroit. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:57.840 Ye. 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:03.000 Judkins is that physical, finished through contact, get through a 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:04.560 couple of guys on the ends, and we saw him 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:08.359 do it last night. But he doesn't have that explosive 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:10.760 speed to finish big runs. And he had a seventy 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.200 yard last time he got caught. Should have been a touchdown, 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.920 but he got he got hawked down from the end. 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.880 And then Henderson is the exact opposite you saw against 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.720 Texas when he shattered my heart into a million pieces 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.000 at the end of the first half, caught a screen 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:25.840 pass and went seventy five yards to the house. So 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.719 a lot of interesting things there. And then a guy 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:30.600 who I think is one of the better route runners 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.640 in this class and a mecha Buca kind of has 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.600 always been that second option at his time at Ohio State. 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:38.680 You think of the guys in front of him, JSN 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:43.200 Garrett Wilson, Marvin Harrison junior, and now it's Jeremiah Smith, 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.880 but just very savvy in his routes, does a good 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.080 job in zone coverage of finding the gaps and getting 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.120 up quarterbacks. So a lot of really intriguing guys. 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:52.360 Had a big last night. 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.000 Big fumble, Yeah, they changed the course of the game. 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:57.560 But also just a really good play by Notre Dame Punch. 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.559 So with all those get their offensive lineman too. By 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:03.920 the way, Simmons Jackson. 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.959 We could talk about their roster for thirty more. 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.080 Jackson, the fact that he, yeah, the fact that he 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.280 moved from guard out to tackle when they had all 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.280 the injuries to Simmons and stuff like that. So you know, 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:17.800 I thought maybe that that was going to be a 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.240 little bit of a liability. But man, I'll tell you what, 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.520 Jackson Simmons is still the tackle, is still my favorite 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:27.040 tackle on the board. But we need to see doctor Cooper. 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.120 You know, medical has to improve. But Donovan Jackson did 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.080 a hell of a job. You watch the Oregon games, 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.600 the Texas game, stuff like that. This kid played very 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:35.040 very well. 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.600 Denzel Burke the corner had himself a really good game. 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.320 And that's somebody who is freshman year. What was really 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.480 really high and on the radar, and I think now 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.000 might be a day too early day three pick, depending 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:46.800 on where you're looking at him. But Denzel Burke I 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:48.840 thought played a really strong game last night as well, 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:49.720 and he struggled. 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:51.720 He's had his fair share of struggles then yeah too, 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:53.440 so good way to close out the air. And I 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.960 know Nick and I have been on the Davis and 0:14:56.000 --> 0:15:00.000 Igbuenosan train's physical and very well. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.400 Sometimes he's he can get a hobby. 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:05.800 He has nineteen penalties this season, so the train is 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.840 screeching a little bit. But at some points too. I 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.280 kind of like that with corners. Yeah, where they're physical 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.080 because you can you can teach them to be better 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:15.800 about the penalties, but if it gets to be an 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:17.800 excessive issue, that's that's when it's a problem. So that's 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:19.920 my biggest question mark on Edwinolson. But like you said, 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:21.800 there's some stuff to like there with him too. 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.200 I think if you are going physical corner though, like 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.840 it better be like like Dallas is a fine spot 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.480 for it right now. Most defensive back coaches will tell 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:32.520 you like I can, I can coach handsy play out 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:36.000 of somebody it's not a quick fix. Like most defensive 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:37.320 back coaches that I've talked to have said, like, if 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.960 you're talking about a grabby corner, a little over physical, 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:43.000 I'm gonna need a couple of years of assurances that 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:44.720 we're going to be in a comfortable spot here. I've 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:46.120 got time to work with this guy. If I don't 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:48.320 have time to work with this guy last year, for instance, 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:50.040 I don't know if al Harris wanted to work with 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.840 an overly physical young corner, Like does he want to 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:54.600 necessarily work with a guy like that and try to 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.240 coach some of that out of them? They might have 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:58.840 some cursiony. No, not Carson specifically. I'm saying some of 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:00.720 the other corners that would have been I think they 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.040 may have shied away from it. If it's like saying 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.640 we don't necessarily have the time Melton, Yeah, we may 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:07.920 not have the time to work with somebody like Melton 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:09.520 right now. If we're talking about, hey, we need guys 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:11.440 who can help us right now, that's going to take 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:12.600 a little bit of time for us. 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.840 Has anybody seen one Yea Thomas's brother play. 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:17.360 I saw him. I have not watched him play out. 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:18.160 I saw him work out there. 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.400 Okay, well I'll keep I'll keep it to myself then 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:21.800 until you guys see him playing. 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:23.720 Yes, did you like him? 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:23.920 Oh? 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:27.720 Yeah, he's He's like I watched him work out, but 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:30.640 he's kind of very impressed, kind of a grabby, you know. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.800 But he could really really run. He's physically plays a 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.400 lot of press coverage stuff. I talked to a team 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.360 because I was curious about this. Let me let me 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:41.520 hold on that. We'll talk about corners one day. Because 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:42.800 I want you guys to see him. I want to 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:43.440 be able to watch. 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:45.200 I heard, I've heard, and I've heard a lot of 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.280 really good behind the scenes stuff with him that'll be. 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.000 Really in quality guy quality. 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:52.360 Yeah, he is. He is, like we'll wear a captain's patch. 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.360 When he's that's exciting to hear. 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:54.800