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Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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Speaker 1: for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the

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Speaker 1: confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Frisco, and

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Speaker 1: now your host, Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 2: Today is January twenty first, twenty twenty five, and we

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Speaker 2: are officially ninety three days away from the NFL Draft

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Speaker 2: in Green.

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Speaker 3: Bay, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Draft Show presented by Miller Light. We've

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Speaker 2: got Zach Wolchuck, Bryan brought us, Tommy Yarsh, Bobby belt On,

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Speaker 2: Kyle Yeomans with Chris Beam in the back.

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Speaker 3: We're excited to get rocking this week because we.

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Speaker 2: Are now in the final countdown to All Star Games.

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Speaker 2: You've got the Shrine Game coming up this week, You've

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Speaker 2: got the Senior Bowl next week. Why you Chucklinzachly, I.

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Speaker 4: Just feel like we're doing this. Chris Collins were a

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Speaker 4: slide thing with that. We're staring at a camera though,

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Speaker 4: Bryan and I are flipping back around. It's like, whoa,

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Speaker 4: it's the sliding moment. It's just it is a bit awkward,

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Speaker 4: but we're doing the best we can.

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Speaker 5: Bro.

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Speaker 6: Remember we're guests here. Okay, whatever they ask us to do.

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Speaker 3: We do. Hey, I'll get coffee for you.

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Speaker 7: They tell you to take your shoes off at the

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Speaker 7: front door, whatever you do it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, absolutely, just don't take them off in here, please,

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Speaker 2: that's don't worry. Don't do that. Yeah, we've had some

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Speaker 2: some episodes in the past. No no, no, yeah, so

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Speaker 2: now turn back that way. Just look back at the

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Speaker 2: camera and that's just turned back this way, and then

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Speaker 2: it's all good to go. It's all ready to rock.

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Speaker 2: See that's easy.

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Speaker 3: That's like really good that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it was. Yeah, your eye discipline, they all

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Speaker 7: really good.

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Speaker 2: Change of direction.

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Speaker 4: Definitely lacked the long speed, but the explosive first step

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Speaker 4: quickness is there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Zach woldschup. Explosive is what I've had all the

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Speaker 2: way through.

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Speaker 3: That's the first one I've ever heard that in my life. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Whatever, All right, going into this week, cowboys still without

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Speaker 2: a head coach, still without a staff, and uh yet

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Speaker 2: we've got shrine bul practices in the Dallas Fort Worth

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Speaker 2: Metroplex starting in Denton on Saturday. Brian, I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of intrigue around what direction the Cowboys are

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Speaker 2: going to go. Uh, just kind of give us an

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Speaker 2: outline of where they're at on this point.

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Speaker 3: What is the coach from the draft standpoint? Oh, from

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Speaker 3: the draft.

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Speaker 6: Mark, No, I mean, like you said, we've we've kind

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Speaker 6: of talked about how you know, you get the scouts

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Speaker 6: back together, you have cross checks. We talked about player

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Speaker 6: nine that potentially could be a guy that maybe doesn't fit.

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Speaker 6: You need to figure out, Okay, who are the coaches

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Speaker 6: they're interviewing. Front office is it's going to let you

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Speaker 6: like listen and we're leaning this way. If he takes

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Speaker 3: So you just got to be ready.

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Speaker 6: You're really kind of on alert right now, and it's

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Speaker 6: really everything is going forward. You're still evaluating players, you're

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Speaker 6: doing your cross checks, you're putting your list together. Uh,

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Speaker 6: you're just kind of making a plan for them. When

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Speaker 6: this switch flips, then you've got to be ready to

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Speaker 6: go with the players and have them. These players that

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Speaker 6: I'm talking about player nine are players that have already

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Speaker 6: not our type, but now they might become our type.

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Speaker 6: So reports are done that way. You just have to

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Speaker 6: to get them on the board for Jerry Steven, Uh,

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Speaker 6: you know, for the new coach to be able to

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Speaker 6: talk about that's what you have to make sure that

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Speaker 6: you're doing right now. So it's really everything full board

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Speaker 6: we've got. We've actually didn't they play a Polynesian the

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Speaker 3: Star Games, Yeah, the Hula Bowl.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So there's there's scouts out there actually hitting these

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Speaker 6: These guys are out there doing it. So uh, nothing

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Speaker 6: is it going to be a coach that we're familiar

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Speaker 6: appear to me though you're kind of talking about some

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Speaker 2: And a couple of those names, I mean, one of

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Speaker 2: them was interviewed this past week and Kellen Moore, the

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Speaker 2: current offensive coordinator with the Eagles. You might have to

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Speaker 2: they do in the NFC title game. Another one that's

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Speaker 2: kind of gotten some recent steam Bobby is Brian Schottenheimer

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Speaker 2: within the building offensive coordinator past week. Does that change

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Speaker 7: I mean, obviously, if you've got it. I think the

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Speaker 7: The other thing I think is it's the famous Bill Parcells.

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Speaker 7: You know, if I'm gonna cook dinner, you got to

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Speaker 7: let me buy the groceries. Not every coach is that way,

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Speaker 7: but the reality of it is, I think these scouts know, Okay, fine,

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Speaker 7: we're gonna we're gonna do our evaluations everything else. Like that.

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Speaker 7: When the coach gets in here and tells us, hey,

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Speaker 7: Then what Then those scouts go, Okay, I've already evaluated.

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Speaker 7: Where's it? Where's the season eight? Over here? Where's the paprika?

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Speaker 7: All right? I can get you that. I can get you.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna go through my evaluations and when you tell

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Speaker 7: me what you want, I'll tell you all right, here

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Speaker 7: are the guys. Then, these are the guys that fit

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Speaker 7: what you're asking me.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let me ask you a question, Bobby.

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Speaker 6: And you're really plugged in on all these stuff with scouts,

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Speaker 6: scouts want a coach that is going to roll up

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Speaker 6: Like I wish to tell coaches, listen, I don't call

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Speaker 6: third down defenses, but I could find you a guy

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Speaker 3: So how involved?

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Speaker 6: As you know this group very very well, how much

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Speaker 7: I think they. I think in general, most personnel people

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Speaker 6: But how about the guy that walks in and and

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Speaker 7: Do you do you want somebody who gets dropped in

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Speaker 7: but like it's it's easier. Like for instance, we always

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Speaker 2: The combine, he was pro There's a difference between actually

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna work a player and he was going to

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Speaker 7: And he was And Will McLay does a fantastic job

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Speaker 7: of Hey, coaches, communicate the type of things that you

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Speaker 7: well my guy will go find it for you. Just

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Speaker 7: and I'll go in there do it. But I think, yeah,

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Speaker 7: there's definitely a respect factor. They're just put in the work.

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Speaker 7: I think Brian Schttenheimer is a guy who's considered too.

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Speaker 7: He puts in the work with us, and he goes

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Speaker 7: on pro day trips and he's involved and respects what

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Speaker 6: That's I appreciate that about Jason Garrett because this old

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Speaker 6: I mean, I've been in places where coaches and scouts

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Speaker 6: The only problem I had with the coach was don't

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Speaker 3: About this player.

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Speaker 6: You know, if you're going to study the player, if

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Speaker 6: Sean went through the process. The scouts fought him on that.

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Speaker 6: But that's where I really started respecting coaches is their ability.

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Speaker 6: Andy Reid was the same way, John Gruden, the same

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Speaker 6: way these coaches that work there's will's got to know

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Speaker 6: the coaches that can scout and the ones that can't scout.

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Speaker 6: That's that's the really the key here is he gets

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Speaker 6: his staff together. He needs to figure out very quickly

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Speaker 6: who can do personnel stuff and who can't. You don't

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Speaker 6: want the ones who can't do personnel to ruin it

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Speaker 6: for the scouts who were going out there and living

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Speaker 7: Which coach was the worst scout you ever.

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Speaker 3: Worked to a name?

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Speaker 7: And still they just like, yeah.

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Speaker 6: I just remember meetings. I just remember meetings that where

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Speaker 6: you would sit there and like if Andy Reid had

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Speaker 6: an opinion, if Andy Reid had an opinion. I remember

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Speaker 6: Ron Wolf, the Hall of Fame general manager, would go, Okay,

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Speaker 6: it was a lot different. Didn't have didn't maybe move

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Speaker 6: the board like we did. We're supposed to. You have

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Speaker 6: to prove that you can evaluate. Don't go in there

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Speaker 6: and screw the scouts up. Mike Zimmer and I went

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Speaker 6: at it one time. You know, one day Mike Zimmer's

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Speaker 6: fighting for a guy and the next day he doesn't

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Speaker 6: fight his hard. I said, you're effing up the scouts

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Speaker 6: right now. You can't do that.

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Speaker 3: You got it.

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Speaker 6: If you're gonna fight, go fight, but don't don't flip flop,

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Speaker 6: you know, and you're messing up the scouts.

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Speaker 2: That's probably why he was five and twenty eight as

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Speaker 6: He's going to kick our ass today. They see you

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 7: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Anytime we can dig deep into Brian's past and have

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Speaker 3: That's one of the reasons why you should have picked it.

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Speaker 2: Last night, the college football season officially came to a

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Speaker 8: Well, Ohio State, from top to bottom I think is

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Speaker 3: Them, the whole damn defensive line. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 8: And speaking of the defensive line, that's what I talked about.

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Speaker 8: well Henderson. You know, they kind of have that thunder

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Speaker 8: Judkins is that physical, finished through contact, get through a

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Speaker 6: So with all those get their offensive lineman too. By

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Speaker 8: We could talk about their roster for thirty more.

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Speaker 7: I saw him. I have not watched him play out.

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Speaker 6: Okay, well I'll keep I'll keep it to myself then

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Speaker 3: Yes, did you like him?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's He's like I watched him work out, but

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Speaker 6: But he could really really run. He's physically plays a

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Speaker 4: I think Tommy you did a great job describing, Hey,

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Speaker 4: zone area short yardage, has a nose for the end zone,

438
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Speaker 4: much like Zeke and other Ohio State Buckeye I think

439
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Speaker 4: both are going to be good players in the next level.

440
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Speaker 4: I mean Judkins at all Miss dude Ti duce McAllister's

441
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Speaker 4: record with fourteenth career one hundred yard games his tape

442
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Speaker 4: actually in twenty twenty three, I thought maybe even more

443
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Speaker 4: impressive at Ole Miss. You watch him against Texas A

444
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Speaker 4: and M. He absolutely dominated that game. But I kind

445
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Speaker 4: of lean right now. For me, I like the speed

446
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Speaker 4: of Henderson, which gives me an edge there over Judkins.

447
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Speaker 3: Henderson in the second, Judkins in the third for me.

448
00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 2: Now, has Judkins officially declared, I know, no, he's not.

449
00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,320
Speaker 2: So he's got until the twenty fourth with the National

450
00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,760
Speaker 2: Championship Game deadline extension, so he could come back. He

451
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 2: could return, but we're gonna just pretend like they're available

452
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Speaker 2: going in.

453
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Speaker 7: I think Judkins is a good player, but like I'm

454
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Speaker 7: with Brian, I haven't there. I think there's definitely a

455
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Speaker 7: gap between those two because to me, it's just not

456
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Speaker 7: it's not only the game breaking element that exists with Henderson,

457
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Speaker 7: but it's kind of what Zach was just talking about there.

458
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Speaker 7: With Henderson, it's that it's the patience, it's the natural

459
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Speaker 7: feel for running the football, and the way to set

460
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Speaker 7: up his blocks and the way that he's able to

461
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Speaker 7: kind of anticipate where the hole is opening up and

462
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Speaker 7: set up defenders. I think he's really really advanced in

463
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Speaker 7: that sense. The biggest thing with Henderson for me is

464
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Speaker 7: just it seems like as soon as he gets contact,

465
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Speaker 7: he's going down like that's a big Here's there's not

466
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Speaker 7: a lot of breaking big runs after contact. It's just

467
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Speaker 7: where he's gonna have an ability to really break something,

468
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Speaker 7: as usually it's either just the speed getting around the

469
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Speaker 7: corner or it's going to be just the patients of

470
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Speaker 7: setting things up and finding traffic and weaving through it.

471
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Speaker 3: What do you think? Yeah, real quick, he did you

472
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Speaker 3: say Henderson contact.

473
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Speaker 7: Problem Henderson and I don't see a lot of great

474
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Speaker 7: contact balance, No, Henderson. I don't see a good contact

475
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Speaker 7: bounce with Henderson at all.

476
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Speaker 3: He had six hundred and six yards after contact.

477
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Speaker 7: See I see like what I see him with is

478
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Speaker 7: the way that he runs through traffic and the way

479
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Speaker 7: that he navigates is good. I don't see a guy

480
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Speaker 7: who breaks through very.

481
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Speaker 3: Well average four and a half yards to carry after contact.

482
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Speaker 2: How many broken tackles did he end up having?

483
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Speaker 7: Let's see, that's again exactly what are we talking about?

484
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Speaker 7: With contact or like contacts? Those are different things to me,

485
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Speaker 7: and those are defined differently. So after contact can be

486
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Speaker 7: as little as when you're going through an area. If

487
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 7: you are, if you are like brushed, it's there. I

488
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 7: don't see a guy who like fights through tackles.

489
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Speaker 2: Let me see if I can find something on it.

490
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Speaker 2: What do you think, Tommy about the two I think

491
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Speaker 2: we're kind of.

492
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Speaker 8: A group consensus here on Henderson Judkins.

493
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Speaker 3: I'm kind of surprised. I thought, I don't think Bobby

494
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Speaker 3: and I are in the same page second.

495
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Speaker 7: Round, But no, we're on the same page. Terms and well, like, yeah,

496
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Speaker 7: skill set, we love you definitely.

497
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Speaker 8: I don't think I don't think Henderson is like Derreck

498
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Speaker 8: Henry in terms of the ability to break through contact.

499
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Speaker 3: But I don't think I think it's not more than serviceable, right, you.

500
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Speaker 8: Know, I think the speed aspect of it gives him

501
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Speaker 8: the edge over Judkins. You know, when it comes to Henderson,

502
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Speaker 8: I think the I think it's sophomore year that he'suffered

503
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Speaker 8: an injury and people kind of forgot about him.

504
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's had some problems with that, Yeah.

505
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Speaker 8: And that is something to keep an eye on. But

506
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Speaker 8: he's still been extremely productive the course of his college career.

507
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 8: He scored forty two touchdowns. He's averaged six point four

508
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,120
Speaker 8: yards of carry throughout his entire career. And the great

509
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Speaker 8: thing about the pairing with Judkins is kind of some

510
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Speaker 8: of that weight was taken off of his back this season.

511
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Speaker 8: He had one hundred and forty four carries in the

512
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Speaker 8: longest football season in college football history. So you know,

513
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 8: you come in with a little bit fresher legs in

514
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Speaker 8: this process as supposed to four straight years of being

515
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Speaker 8: the belcow, which is what it looked like during his

516
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 8: time in Hilo. State, So I thought he closed out

517
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Speaker 8: the year really well. I think, like you guys mentioned that,

518
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Speaker 8: the speed factor kind of changes things for me in

519
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Speaker 8: terms of Henderson not the best catcher out of the backfield,

520
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Speaker 8: but I think he can. He can get the job done.

521
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Speaker 8: He had twenty seven catches for two hundred and eighty

522
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Speaker 8: four yards in a touchdown this season.

523
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Speaker 4: They're fun to watch together the way Chip Kelly used them,

524
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 4: unselfishness between both players blocking for each other. I mean

525
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Speaker 4: there were some times you saw Judkins kind of lead blocking.

526
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Speaker 3: Yeah, for totally hours. Yeah.

527
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Speaker 4: I do think both could improve in pass protection though,

528
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Speaker 4: But Judkins is a guy he'll kind of throw his

529
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Speaker 4: body in there. I think Henderson chose a little bit

530
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Speaker 4: more technical. I think Henderson's a square block. Yeah, I

531
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Speaker 4: don't think Judkins, to me is a guy. I'm not

532
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Speaker 4: going to call him a liability, but it's not as

533
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Speaker 4: clean as it needs to be.

534
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Speaker 2: Just found the mistackle numbers on both guys. Just for

535
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Speaker 2: a comparison purpose.

536
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Speaker 3: Let's put Bobby in a body back.

537
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Speaker 2: So Judkins had one hundred and ninety three carries just

538
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 2: over one thousand yards on the season. He had forty

539
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: four missed tackles. So throughout the season, five and eighty

540
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Speaker 2: seven yards after contact, Henderson had one hundred and forty

541
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Speaker 2: five carries, so right around the same over one thousand yards,

542
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 2: right around the same. He had thirty seven miss tackles forced,

543
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Speaker 2: but six hundred and forty three yards after contact, So

544
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Speaker 2: it kind.

545
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Speaker 3: Of aligns with both. They both missed for some miss tackles.

546
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Speaker 2: They both had some opportunities, but it looks like when

547
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Speaker 2: Henderson was able to get touched.

548
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Speaker 7: That's a that's the thing. When he breaking the tackle,

549
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 7: Henderson's got speed carry it further. Judkins breaking through tackles

550
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 7: is not going to pick up the same yard after contact.

551
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Speaker 7: That's why it's different to me. But in general, like

552
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 7: I don't think Henderson's just awful. I just see too

553
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Speaker 7: often it's like, all right, Henderson goes down as soon

554
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 7: as he's wrapped up. There's just not a lot there.

555
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 7: It's the patients and it's the vision. It's the ability

556
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 7: to kind of weave through things that I think is

557
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 7: bigger check mark in his favorite rather than a genty,

558
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 7: you know, breaking through a bunch of arm tackles.

559
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Speaker 3: Nobody does it better than gent.

560
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 6: I want to see what you guys, Harvey from a

561
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 6: Central Florida fan. I haven't watched him yet break Yeah,

562
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 6: breaking tackle with Devin Neil little bowling ball out of

563
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 6: Kansas as well.

564
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Speaker 4: I saw somebody throughout the Bucky Irving comp like he

565
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 4: could be this year's Bucky Irving.

566
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 3: I'm not against that. I do love me some Devin

567
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 3: Neil at Kansas.

568
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 2: Ashton Genty had more broken tackles than Judkins or Henderson

569
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 2: having carries this year.

570
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Scotch, I think we're not talking.

571
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Speaker 7: About sketty that guy. That guy's awful. We're not We're

572
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 7: not talking to we're talking about it.

573
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Speaker 6: We're not talking Does anybody watched Sampson from to see.

574
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Speaker 3: I I've seen some of him. I haven't done a

575
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 3: few a full.

576
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 7: Time on Samson, you guys, I've not watched I've not

577
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 7: watched a lot of players. I've not watched full game

578
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 7: Sampson yet. I've watched cut ups on Samson. I saw

579
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 7: Samson in person. I've not I've not watched Samson full

580
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 7: games yet, but I I mean I liked him.

581
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

582
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 7: No, I haven't watched a full evaluation to him yet, though.

583
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 8: I watched Samson a little bit I didn't think he

584
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 8: was as great between the tackles. Uh huh, but I

585
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 8: saw good explosion getting on the outside and the speed.

586
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 8: I don't know if I was the biggest fan. Maybe

587
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 8: I need to watch a little bit more.

588
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 2: No, if you don't like him, you don't like him.

589
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,479
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's okay, Tommy. Do you think he's

590
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: done better than Jalen Wright? Go and dig a grave

591
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Speaker 2: for you know? I love Jalen Right.

592
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Speaker 6: The thing about this guy is like that saying I

593
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 6: he played against a lot of really good defenses and

594
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 6: was very very productive and to me, I mean his.

595
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Speaker 3: He had a lot of mistackles. See.

596
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Speaker 6: The problem was I was trying to get you guys

597
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 6: to help me with him, because you're all telling me

598
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 6: he's not any good. I I think he's good. I

599
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 6: still think he's good. So I'm not listening to anything

600
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 6: you guys are going to say.

601
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 3: She's talking about Dylan Samson.

602
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 6: Dylan Samson, Yeah, so tom watching. I mean, okay, Tommy,

603
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 6: what else did you say about him?

604
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 8: I put down he's a good outside run or not

605
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 8: as impactful between the tackles, comes out of his gaps

606
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 8: with good explosion. Sometimes got a little bit overwhelmed and

607
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 8: pass protection. I think he's got the.

608
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 6: I thought he was better inside than he was outside

609
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 6: watching him run.

610
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Speaker 7: So I'd actually asked somebody about it's good.

611
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Speaker 3: I mean, hey, that's how you saw him. That's cool.

612
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 7: I asked somebody about Sam's recently and I got a

613
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 7: I got a word about Tennessee guys in general, And

614
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 7: I don't know how you feel about this. There's apparently,

615
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 7: at least for some people, concerned of just like all

616
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Speaker 7: right with the josh hipel like you know, spread looks

617
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 7: that they get and everything kind of being spread out

618
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 7: in lighter box and stuff like that that Tennessee skill

619
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Speaker 7: guys can sometimes be difficult evaluations that there's questions about

620
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Speaker 7: just like how much are they just being put in

621
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 7: position to succeed because of some of the different light boxes.

622
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Speaker 6: Aren't they but they're like they've done more of like

623
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 6: the are a physical team running the ball?

624
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 7: They're physical, But I mean in terms of like the

625
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 7: way they spread out their formations of different things. They

626
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 7: do get lighter boxes a lot of times, and so

627
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 7: there's questions I think about, just all right, how much

628
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 7: is there a benefit from scheme systems set up like that.

629
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 7: And when you look at some of the different Tennessee

630
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 7: guys that have come out skill position wise recently, Tillman, Valen,

631
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 7: these different guys like that, Jalen Like there's questions about

632
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 7: how much is it tough impacting?

633
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, because Jalen Hyade you just saw open downfield all

634
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 4: the time when you watched him play. But that so

635
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 4: far has not translated in the NFL. And that might

636
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 4: also be. Hey, he's playing for the Giants and there's

637
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 4: a big quarterback problem there. But Jalen Hyatt so far,

638
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 4: my evaluation was wrong on him. I had him much

639
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 4: higher two years ago in the draft, thought, hey, top

640
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 4: of the second round, I'd be very interested in Jalen Hyde.

641
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 2: And he has not had production at the NFL level

642
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: now now he hasn't really done much a whole lot.

643
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 2: Who was the one that out of YouTube with Samson

644
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: that talked about pass blocking?

645
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 3: I did you thought about it? It was a little such

646
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 3: he does back? No, No, he does.

647
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Speaker 6: He's absolutely right about that passlock. I'll fight him on

648
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 6: anything else. Yeah, I mean he's right about.

649
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: I bet I got a back that you haven't watched.

650
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 4: Todge Brooks from Texas Tech's watched him, I have not

651
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 4: watched Okay, best pass blocking back in the draft. He's

652
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 4: also lateral ability through the roof.

653
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 3: And we'll get to see if the East West shrine

654
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Speaker 3: ball todge Brooks.

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Speaker 4: If you want a guy, if you want to wait

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Speaker 4: till day three, maybe even yeah, sign me up for

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Speaker 4: todge Brooks from Texas Tech. Now that's also got not

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Speaker 4: a burner kind of rico doubt less. Right, he's not

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Speaker 4: going to beat anybody with his long speed, but super

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Speaker 4: productive three down player. He didn't come off the field

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Speaker 4: at Texas Tech. I think he played like ninety five

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Speaker 4: percent of their offensive snaps. I think he broke all

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Speaker 2: The gosh, who's the guy that was Denver running back

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Speaker 7: No Williams.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he it was wide running back who his best

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Speaker 2: traits are going side to side Monty ball and then

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Speaker 2: hit it. Yes, Monty ball, That's what I'm taking. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's who I like. I like that guy. That is

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Speaker 2: who whenever I see todge Brooks, that's who I remind

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Speaker 2: reminds me.

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Speaker 3: Of hits the gap. Well, he waits for blocks to develop.

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Speaker 4: He runs behind pack light, a big lower body, powerful runner, good.

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Speaker 3: First step, but the closing speed's not there. The finishing

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Speaker 2: I liked how will Tommy outlined it with Ohio State

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Speaker 3: He gets that every once in a while.

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Speaker 2: But if he gets open field, you're gonna get twenty

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Speaker 2: thirty yards out of him, and he's going to continue

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Speaker 2: to just chip away at an offense. He needs to

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Speaker 2: be in an offense that's allowing him to be a warhorse.

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Speaker 2: That's where he's got. Yeah, he gets better the game

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Speaker 2: goes on, Yes he does. He's a very good fun player.

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Speaker 2: All right, good running back conversation. When we come back

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Speaker 2: There you go, Thank you guys. All right, first question, uh,

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Speaker 2: what position of need will most likely most easily be

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Speaker 2: addressed in free agency? What you see exactly so that

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Speaker 2: you can continue to draft other positions. This comes from jam.

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Speaker 6: I answered that question myself on Twitter because I knew

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Speaker 6: you probably weren't gonna go to it.

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Speaker 3: You didn't think I was gonna go through.

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Speaker 6: I didn't think you're I reached out to the moment.

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Speaker 6: If you look at Twitter, I answered the okay, here

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Speaker 6: let me and that's why I asked him I said.

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Speaker 3: What's what's what's free agency?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I was going to go to it. Yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: what's free agency? With a smiley face. It's got one

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Speaker 2: hundred and eleven likes and four retweets are already there.

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Speaker 2: You go, well, yeah, that's fair.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 6: Honestly, they've got they've got so many. I don't think

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Speaker 6: they really going to play in free agency at all.

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Speaker 6: I just don't. Yeah, don't figure their their version of

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Speaker 6: free agency is going to be to try and sign Lewis,

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Speaker 6: to try and sign Osa, to try and sign Golston,

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Speaker 6: if they fact can do that.

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Speaker 7: Their their history says, if they're going to sign a

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Speaker 7: position to get a veteran in here and and cover

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Speaker 7: over some deficiencies, that's typically receiver. So they'll go look

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Speaker 7: at James Washington, they'll go get Randall Cobb, they'll go

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Speaker 7: get Brandon Cooks. So if they need a if they

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Speaker 7: need something to just kind of cover their bases a

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Speaker 7: little bit, receiver, it is historically been one they'll do.

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Speaker 7: But in general, they they tend to go to the

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Speaker 7: bargain bin and we'll sign free agentcy just about all

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Speaker 7: their positions that need just to go, well, at least

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Speaker 7: we have somebody there if we get shut out in

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Speaker 7: the draft.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, to me, it's it's going to be they're going

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Speaker 6: to draft first and then kind of figure out what

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Speaker 6: they need from there, just like I say, bottom fishing,

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Speaker 6: exact exactly what they're gonna do. And they're gonna hope

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Speaker 6: that they find Carl Lawson and you know, guys like that, that's.

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Speaker 3: What they're gonna hope. Super exciting.

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Speaker 2: Guys. Love this conversation, all right.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think picked the question, That's why I answered it.

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Speaker 2: Kind of along the same lines, but not at the

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Speaker 2: same time. Chase on Twitter asked if you could only

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Speaker 2: get three starters from this draft in your first three rounds,

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Speaker 2: so rounds one through three, what position groups would you

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Speaker 2: put those starters at and why if you were guaranteed

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Speaker 2: a starting spot with your first three picks, what would

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Speaker 2: those three position groups be?

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Speaker 7: Oh, wide receivers one of them for sure for me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wide receiver, running back, defensive tackle. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: I was thinking d tackle or.

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Speaker 7: Corner, wide receiver, running back guard.

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Speaker 3: You have to go second, No, I D I kind

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Speaker 3: of like.

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Speaker 7: What I kind of like what the skeleton crew is

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Speaker 7: showing you on the offensive line at the end of

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Speaker 7: the year, like I, I mean, I think that there

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Speaker 7: are there is where I got more questions right now.

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Speaker 7: I think if you're going to move on from from

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Speaker 7: you know, if Zach Martin's going to end his career

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Speaker 7: he moves on or whatever else. I think that there

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Speaker 7: was some encouraging things that you saw in the interior

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Speaker 7: there with Tyler brought off and Bby you've got bass linebacker.

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Speaker 7: I have hope that Terrence Steele is going to be

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Speaker 7: able to bounce back with a new coaching staff. That's

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Speaker 7: that's my hope. And and a left tackle. I mean, look,

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Speaker 7: we talked about this at the time. Tyler Goeyiton wasn't

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Speaker 7: necessarily ready to go right away. That's why we were

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Speaker 7: talking about the doga as a possibility. I still have hope,

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Speaker 7: and I think there were enough flashes in there to

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Speaker 7: me that I say I'm I'm going to bank on.

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Speaker 7: I think a second year jump is reasonable at this

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Speaker 7: point for Guiden. I I still think that I'm not

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Speaker 7: nearly as out. Actually, I think I know there's a

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Speaker 7: lot of people who have.

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Speaker 3: Seen to tackle that gets pin. Fix that and you'll

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Speaker 3: probably have a pretty good tackle.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Think a solid option as well. I liked what we

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Speaker 3: saw from Austin.

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Speaker 7: Swing tackle sure, so like I mean, I'm not saying

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Speaker 7: it's perfect, but I do have more questions that do

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Speaker 7: you have enough bodies at defensive tackle right now? Do

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Speaker 7: you have enough running back? Do you have enough at receiver?

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Speaker 7: So i'd probably say those three spots.

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Speaker 2: You said linebacker, Brian, do you think you need a

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Speaker 2: starter at linebacker?

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Speaker 6: I think And there's questions about when over overshown is

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Speaker 6: probably not coming back till December, right what do you

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Speaker 6: have behind that right now?

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Speaker 2: Nothing?

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Speaker 3: You have nothing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna have to figure outs media foul and

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Speaker 2: that's I would.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't be surprised at forty four that they find

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Speaker 6: a linebacker at the second round pick.

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Speaker 4: If you like kid, if you hot Campbell's there, I'd

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Speaker 4: be throwing a party.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if Campbell will be there, but yeah,

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Speaker 6: I think that might be. You might have to go

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Speaker 6: around early. These linebackers so far, I mean it's it's

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Speaker 6: been a pretty thin group of the I think I've

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Speaker 6: studied eighty one players so far, so I mean it

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Speaker 6: would be a little bit of a that's a hard

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Speaker 6: one to do, but you don't. Maybe that's where free agency.

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Speaker 6: I know we were kind of just joking around with

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Speaker 6: free agency, but maybe that's a position they're going to

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Speaker 6: have to go out and address, you know, maybe the

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Speaker 6: bottom fishing that we talk about.

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Speaker 2: They did that with Eric Hendricks last year, like they

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Speaker 2: went and signed a guy. Ye if they've signed some

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Speaker 2: veteran linebackers in the past. What do you think your

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Speaker 2: three positions.

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Speaker 8: I'm with Bobby in the line of thinking on the

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Speaker 8: offensive line of you know, I think that you can

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Speaker 8: work with what you've got and I think, like you said,

875
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,479
Speaker 8: a reasonable expectation is for Tyler Guiding to be better

876
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 8: in year two. So if that's the case, and running back,

877
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 8: defensive tackle, and corner. For me, I think that you've

878
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 8: got you know, deep rooms in each of in all

879
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 8: three and kind of depending on where you take them,

880
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 8: you can get a you know, a pretty solid player

881
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 8: out of any of the three. I think, you know,

882
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 8: at twelve, I would still be a fan of John A.

883
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 8: Barron from Texas cot if that's the pick. Yeah, right,

884
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 8: just because I think so much of this running back

885
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 8: class that you can wait till the third round, I

886
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 8: think to get a quality guy.

887
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 6: Let me ask you this, Tommy. Last year, we said

888
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 6: they needed a running back.

889
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: Yep, and what did they do. They never took a run.

890
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 3: They waited, they never took a right, They got wiped.

891
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: Didn't even get close to it.

892
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 6: Actually, we are we do we trust them to when

893
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 6: we asked them to take a running back, to them

894
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 6: to take a running back.

895
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 8: I think in this class, yes, I think so.

896
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 6: I thought the last year's class was pretty damn good too,

897
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 6: you know, and they didn't take a running back.

898
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 7: I think they got I think they get cute. No,

899
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 7: I think that board just I don't think they anticipated

900
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 7: quite the run in the fourth round that hit. I

901
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 7: think they thought somebody would get to them in the

902
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 7: fifth round and then it didn't happen.

903
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 3: I want to trust them to take a running back

904
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 3: years ago.

905
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, the run two years ago, because they were really

906
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: I mean, they were high on Johnson out of Texas,

907
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 2: they were high on Charbonnay out of U. C.

908
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 14: L A.

909
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 3: They had some guys that.

910
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: They were looking at two years ago and it just

911
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: dried up on them and they weren't able to take

912
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: the guy Henry ended up taking Deuce Vaughan in the

913
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: sixth Yeah, that's the that's the run that I keep

914
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 2: going back to.

915
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, so if you go look at, for instance, last year,

916
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 7: the Trey Lance pick that got traded to San Francis.

917
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 7: In the immediate aftermath, right after that pick, the there.

918
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 3: Was just this run by Irving.

919
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was, it was, it was I'm trying to

920
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 7: remember what it was, was Bucky Irving, it was Grendo,

921
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 7: and then there was one more in there. It was

922
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 7: I can't remember Sean Lloyd, but it was so right

923
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 7: after the pick, it was Bucky Irving. Then two picks

924
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 7: later it was Will Shipley, then it was Ray Davis,

925
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 7: then it was Isaac Garend. It was four running backs,

926
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 7: and so those are four running backs who I think

927
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 7: they would have been interested in looking at in the

928
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 7: fifth round. And so I don't know that they totally

929
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 7: anticipated there was going to be just a wipe like

930
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 7: that at the end.

931
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 4: Okay, if Ryan Schottenheimer ends up being the head coach,

932
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 4: there's no question they they they take a running back

933
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 4: in the first two days they do, they don't have

934
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 4: one on the roster right now, So I mean, Enrico

935
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 4: might have ended up playing himself into a contract that

936
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 4: is too rich for you to be able to bring back.

937
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 3: So you have to have a running back.

938
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 4: And I mean looking at this class, I mean, I

939
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 4: know we talked about Jen there's a lot of hype.

940
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 4: Now Gent might go as high as eight to the

941
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 4: Bears because of the Ben Johnson hiring there. Maybe he

942
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 4: wants to go and get his Jamior Gibbs and that'd

943
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 4: be pretty scary. So maybe it's not at twelve, but

944
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 4: maybe it's in the second round. You're looking at is

945
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 4: Caleb Johnson. There is a Marion Hampton, There's Trevon Henderson there,

946
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 4: and those could be options. But I don't see them

947
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 4: coming out of the third round and not having a

948
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 4: running back.

949
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 3: I hope you and Tommy are right. I do. I mean,

950
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 3: but last year it was very clear.

951
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 6: Do you think the fact that with Ezekiel Elliott that

952
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 6: was their ace and the whole thing, and I remember.

953
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 3: We talked about that on a terrible like that was

954
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: a fallback option?

955
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 7: I hope do you want do you want him to

956
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 7: show some a little John Schneider to him and.

957
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 3: Just John John overtrafts running backs.

958
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 7: John Snider's gonna take a running back in the top fifty.

959
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 6: Every year John had ten picks, and they all could

960
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 6: be running backs. He'd be super happy.

961
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 3: But I just like to say I would like to

962
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 3: see them.

963
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 6: I would like to see them put some some emphasis

964
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 6: on this. I'm not asking them to take genty in

965
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 6: the first yeah, but I'm asking them if he gets

966
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 6: the second, third round, give me the Well, he's the

967
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 6: same as uh, you know, this is this He's a

968
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 6: lot like Rico Daddle. I don't know, man, every one

969
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 6: of these backs I've seen, and I respect Rico Daddle,

970
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 6: but every back that I've seen on this board, I

971
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 6: would take over Rico Daddle. Yeah, every one of them.

972
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 8: And if you wait till the second and you take

973
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 8: Caleb Johnson, your set.

974
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 3: I agree.

975
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 8: If you if that's your second round pick.

976
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 3: I think you're good. Yeah. Yeah, I just I don't

977
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: know if they're going to do it or not. That's

978
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

979
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 2: You know, Uh, there's there's they've waited too long before,

980
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: and I've done I've done work with with Jeff Cavanaugh,

981
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 2: who's a Draft Show veteran.

982
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 3: Fan, and he he traded he traded back twice and

983
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: and getting all these picks and still didn't get all

984
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 3: the positions. Still, oh there's too many positions.

985
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 6: That means still traded back twice and still can grab

986
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 6: a receiver.

987
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: Couldn't you know?

988
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: That might answer this next question to Peter asked because

989
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: of the amount of holes on the Cowboys roster.

990
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 3: He's not the only one to asked this question.

991
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: Is there a position group where you'd feel comfortable doubling

992
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 2: up doing running back spots?

993
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 3: Definitely feel comfortable.

994
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 2: Don't get one early, get one late?

995
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 7: What do you consider doubling up? So typically when I

996
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 7: hear of double dipping, I don't think of like throwing

997
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 7: a dart at the back end of the sixth or

998
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 7: the seventh. I think of that as just your going talent.

999
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 7: So when I think double dip, I think you take

1000
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 7: you take a woozy A in the second, and you

1001
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 7: take Jordan Lewis and the third like they did that year.

1002
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 7: So I think more like am I taking two of

1003
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 7: the same position in the top five?

1004
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: I'd say through the top five? Yeah, top five rounds

1005
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 3: is pretty safe. Bet those are premium picks.

1006
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 7: For the most part, I don't know if I could

1007
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 7: two defensive linemen I could be convinced of two defense

1008
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 7: a lot. I don't know about two edge two tackles,

1009
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 7: but I could be convinced to two defensive linemen have

1010
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 7: flex and can do some different things. I might be

1011
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 7: depending on who it is. I might be convinced to

1012
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 7: take a Day one or Day two receiver. And then

1013
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 7: if there's somebody else you really like in the fifth

1014
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 7: or something like that, I could be convinced of that too.

1015
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 7: But those are the only positions that kind of stand

1016
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 7: out that.

1017
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: Would just leave holes elsewhere, like running back if you

1018
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: were going to do something like that.

1019
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 4: That's why it's so tough when you don't play in

1020
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 4: free agency, Like you've got to be able to fit

1021
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 4: this roster in some other ways. But if I'm looking

1022
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 4: at my edge in defensive tackles on the board, yeah,

1023
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 4: that's a meaty position right there. I mean you're looking

1024
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 4: first second round, like if you don't. I am an

1025
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 4: advocate for Mike Green at twelve. I don't think that's

1026
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 4: too high for him. I think he is the second

1027
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 4: best edge. I think he could be a DeMarcus ware

1028
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 4: like pro I really do. I believe in Mike Green.

1029
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 4: I would take him at twelve in a heartbeat, and

1030
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 4: I think after he goes and kills the Senior Bowl,

1031
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 4: other people are probably gonna fall suit and be like

1032
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 4: this dude's a top fifteen pick. I think at twelve

1033
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 4: that's fine, and it's a premium position. You need edge help,

1034
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 4: you need defensive ends, but defensive tackle might be a

1035
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 4: great spot in the second round. Like Harmon, I think

1036
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 4: people are very different On. I think he's a first

1037
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 4: round cals Kauaier Oregon, Oregon. But if he falls in

1038
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 4: the second round, I'd be very excited. Like Kenneth Grant

1039
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 4: super athlete. I know Michigan defensive tackles that is PTSD,

1040
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 4: But if Kenneth Grant falls to you in the second round,

1041
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 4: that's a hell of a value.

1042
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: Pick, right there. Is he gonna fall to you in

1043
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 3: the second round? I don't think so. I think he's

1044
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 3: too good first not with fifteen first round grades on

1045
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:00,479
Speaker 3: the board.

1046
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean Walter Nolan, like, that's a dude,

1047
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 4: and I haven't been heard.

1048
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: I don't love him getting much.

1049
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 4: But in the third round, would you feel i'd feel

1050
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 4: good about in the third round?

1051
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I thought you were talking about forty four. No,

1052
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 6: he's gonna prove me way wrong. That kid will prove

1053
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 6: me way. Where's he out of old miss Yeah? Then

1054
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 6: in the A and M the Ohio State kid Williams.

1055
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: There was somebody who asked about Twitter on the twenty

1056
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: for Nolan, So, Brian, could you tell us about him

1057
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: a little bit?

1058
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: No, I can't, because I mean I can't.

1059
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 7: I mean, come on, come on. So you're saying he's

1060
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 7: third round, but you're not gonna say he's like a

1061
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 7: oh Soo Diggy Zua third round, or like Michael Gallup

1062
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,479
Speaker 7: third round, John Cy, or like a day three Duran Glad.

1063
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 7: You're not getting those guys. You're just saying like this

1064
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 7: is a no.

1065
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 6: Transfer from Texas A and M. Two seasons with the

1066
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 6: Aggies for going to Oxford. He's done a decent job

1067
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 6: coming off the ball. There are times repeers quick and

1068
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 6: other times where he's a little slower. Good sized physician,

1069
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 6: good upper body as well as lower body mass, and

1070
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 6: the running game is strength is evident in how he

1071
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 6: can shoot his hands instantly and impact the blocker from

1072
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 6: getting off the ball. He's got a good grasp strength

1073
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 6: and he can control the offensive lineman and shed them,

1074
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 6: make a play, there's snaps, will get knocked around, some

1075
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 6: playoff balance, will get will quickly jump into gaps or

1076
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 6: slants and stunts. Has moments where he creates penetration in

1077
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 6: order to disrupt the play. Decent change of direction with

1078
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 6: the ability to adjust to the ball care as a

1079
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 6: passers who uses more power than he does quickness. Doesn't

1080
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 6: have many pass rush moves, but he will use his

1081
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 6: hands to try and push the blocker around. We'll struggle

1082
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 6: to keep his balance at times, like in the running game,

1083
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 6: he will get knocked around. Some can get to the quarterback,

1084
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 6: but will struggle to finish. Needs more consistency overall. That

1085
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 6: doesn't sound like a guy I want at forty four.

1086
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 3: I've got him in the third round.

1087
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's you know, and people are asking me and

1088
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 6: I have a chance to be really wrong about him.

1089
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 6: Him and those Texas A and M kids. Yeah, I

1090
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 6: know anybody that's played at Texas A and M. I

1091
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Speaker 6: already have a problem with.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Shamar Stewart I threw in the third round too.

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00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 4: I just didn't honestly, and I could be so wrong

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00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 4: about Shamar Stewart from Texas A and M.

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Speaker 3: But I didn't love what I saw there. I think, sorry,

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Speaker 3: go ahead, No, you're good.

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Speaker 8: I think you guys are wrong. On Walter Nolan, I

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00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 8: really like this kid. I put quick and powerful. He's

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Speaker 8: hard to block one on one as a knack for

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Speaker 8: getting into the backfield, can kind of blow up run plays,

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Speaker 8: collapse the pocket like we've talked about some guys earlier,

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Speaker 8: kind of throws guys off of him sometimes. Sure, and

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Speaker 8: but Brian didn't make a good point where there's there's

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Speaker 8: some reps where I watch where he gets that initial

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00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 8: push but then kind of gets knocked around, he doesn't

1106
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 8: drive his legs forward, gets cursed back as a result.

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00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 8: I've got him in front of Kenneth Grant. I think

1108
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 8: he's the second best tackle so and that's and that's

1109
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 8: that's a compliment to Grant too, because I really like Grant.

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Speaker 8: I think that you know what he can do at

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00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 8: six three three and thirty nine pounds. I know that

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Speaker 8: there's the trauma about the defensive tackles from mission.

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Speaker 3: Both of these guys are really just.

1114
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Speaker 6: Throw it out the win. So Tommy, can I ask

1115
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 6: what games you watch? Did you put down what games

1116
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 6: you watched?

1117
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 3: Bunny?

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00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 8: I watched a couple I didn't watch that didn't put

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00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 8: down the exact ones that I've watched, but I watched

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Speaker 8: a couple from his time at A and M and

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Speaker 8: a couple from at Miss Okay.

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Speaker 3: Gotcha.

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Speaker 2: When Brian's outlining the cons to Nolan and what he brings,

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Speaker 2: what doesn't give you that same pause? Why do you

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00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: still put him as high as you do.

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Speaker 8: I just think that his size, like Brian was talking

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00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 8: about his upper body and how big he is up

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00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 8: there and how athletic he can be with that frame,

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Speaker 8: that's really attractive to me. I think that you want

1130
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 8: to see more of the motor on every snap from him,

1131
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 8: and those places where he doesn't just kind of I

1132
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 8: don't want to say give up on it mid play,

1133
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 8: but just kind of get pushed back after he gets

1134
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 8: good initial push. But I think I just think that

1135
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 8: there's a lot to like there and he can get

1136
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 8: after the pastor on like a delayed pass rush. We've

1137
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Speaker 8: seen that kind of increase in the NFL last couple

1138
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 8: of years. A good enough athlete to do that and

1139
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 8: has enough power to, like I mentioned, throw guys off

1140
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Speaker 8: of him.

1141
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Speaker 3: But you know, I can understand why Brian thinks the

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Speaker 3: way that he does.

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Speaker 7: I think people are I don't know, Brian, you may

1144
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 7: see too, just from some of the buzz that exists

1145
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 7: out there, that some of the athletic testing on Nolan

1146
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 7: might make you circle back on him too and want

1147
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 7: to do more, just because I think a lot of

1148
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 7: people look at at Nolan. I think he's gonna have

1149
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 7: a lot of people buzzing just in general about what

1150
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 7: kind of an athlete he is at the possession. There's

1151
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 7: a lot of people who go like, yeah, you can

1152
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 7: mold that.

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Speaker 3: That's why I was expecting more quickness from him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've got Sanders from South Carolina and Norman Lott.

1155
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 3: The hyphenated name, uh was my Norman lot Tennessee, Tennessee CE.

1156
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 3: He was a transfer from Arizona State.

1157
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: He's a Senior Bowl guy.

1158
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got I've got them ahead. Is Norman going

1159
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 3: the Singer Bowl? I don't believe. So it doesn't look

1160
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 3: like it.

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Speaker 11: I do.

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00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 8: I love Sanders from South Carolina as well.

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Speaker 6: Okay, well, I'm just you know, I like I say,

1164
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 6: I wanted to if you knew what games you'd watched.

1165
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 6: I was curious because I watched him play against LSU

1166
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 6: and Georgia, and that's where I got kind of my first.

1167
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 3: Initial Arkansas LSU Georgia. That's what I want you watch

1168
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 3: all right?

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Speaker 2: Good Twitter on the twenty questions as always out there.

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Speaker 2: Well I answer some more on Thursday as well when

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Speaker 2: we come back. We talked about early offensive lineman on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Where could you get an offensive lineman in the first round?

1173
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: Who would you feel comfortable there? What happens if you

1174
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Speaker 2: don't go that direction and you take Ashton Danty in

1175
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Speaker 2: the like Bobby Belt wants to do. Let's do it

1176
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Speaker 7: watching him.

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Speaker 3: Big Casper the friendly Ghost was a little.

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Speaker 7: Bit yeah yeah, that's how That's why we nicknamed him.

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00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 7: Just the way he moves across that clack.

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Speaker 2: Smooth, good change of direction like I talked about, Yeah.

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00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 3: Clay Court, what you're saying, we played Clay Court in

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Speaker 3: this thing.

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Speaker 7: Just in general, that's where he's That's where he's really strong.

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Speaker 3: Oh is he slow? So surfaces?

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Speaker 7: Sure?

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00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 2: Is the click slower?

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00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, Yeah, I think it's slow.

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00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: Grasses grass is fast.

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00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 3: Grass is fast. Clay is slow. You slide to the ball,

1244
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 3: the socks get you.

1245
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 2: You don't have shoes all torn up. Man, this is

1246
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 2: what the type of analysis you.

1247
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 3: Get offensive line. Yeah.

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00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 2: Well, uh, because of the Dallas Open, the Shrine Bowl

1249
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 2: is actually taking place up at our neck of the woods.

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00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 2: Zach Wolchuk up in the University of North Texas A.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll be out there tonight.

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00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 2: Practices will be up there on the starting on Saturday,

1253
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 2: and then we've got the h the actual bowl game

1254
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Speaker 2: at AT and T Stadium next Thursday. We're right here, everybody,

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Speaker 2: We're right here. Plus uh, Tommy and I will be

1256
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 2: flying out to Mobile on Monday, so we'll be out

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Speaker 2: there the whole week for for singa bowl.

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Speaker 6: Uh getting Tommy's going to carry you that trip.

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Speaker 3: Thank God, about time. We haven't been in a couple

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Speaker 3: of years. And that's probably why they needed somebody to

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00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 3: baby sit. Maybe his bad and then you're gonna carry

1262
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Speaker 3: my bags Tommy. Tommy's already prout donuts rookie party. I

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Speaker 3: mean that's true.

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Speaker 7: Bron Briant's just gonna be angry and and he's gonna

1265
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Speaker 7: be upset because he doesn't get to go to Senior

1266
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 7: Bowl or Combine. He's upset.

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Speaker 3: It was upsetting.

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Speaker 2: I don't blame him.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna we're gonna bring you with us to the

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Speaker 7: morning show next year.

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Speaker 2: Brian.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna make sure you're switched off.

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00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 3: We need to have a show switch here.

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00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys can go do baseball. We'll do the combine.

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Speaker 2: There you go, no off.

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Speaker 3: But he got on offense.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: I got two dudes for you.

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Speaker 2: These are not Day one offensive lineup.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I think well, one of them might end up being

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Speaker 4: pushed up because there's not a ton of great tackles.

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Speaker 4: But I think they're both second round guys. I'll start.

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Speaker 4: You want guard or tackle first, I'll go guard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Wyatt Milem out of West Virginia. When we're looking for

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00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 4: clean players in this draft, he's a clean player. Started

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Speaker 4: thirty two to thirty six games at WVU, thirty one

1290
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Speaker 4: in a row. Iron Mountaineer Award winner didn't allow a

1291
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Speaker 4: sack or quarterback hit his junior season. Started eight games

1292
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Speaker 4: at right tackle as a freshman before moving to left tackle.

1293
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Speaker 4: So he's got that versus along the offensive line. He

1294
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 4: was a super high recruit coming out of West Virginia.

1295
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 4: Finishes blocks, he plays mean, really seems to understand the position.

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Speaker 4: In my opinion, smooth lateral movement sinks his hips, plays

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Speaker 4: with good pad level. You know, he's a guy that

1298
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Speaker 4: does play with two big old braces.

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Speaker 3: On the knees.

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Speaker 4: But I think now watching these offensive linemen, they're all

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Speaker 4: playing with braces, so I'm not as scared by that.

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Speaker 4: I think he can play tackle if he need him

1303
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 4: to at the next level. But I like him inside

1304
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 4: working in a phone booth. The combo blocks can be mean,

1305
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 4: working with a center, the tackle, the consistency there, I

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Speaker 4: think that's something that lacks with a lot of these

1307
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 4: offensive linemen that you're watching this year. I don't have

1308
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 4: that question with Wyatt Milam, and I like the meanness

1309
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 4: in which he plays with big fan of him six six,

1310
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 4: three seventeen out of the West Virginia.

1311
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 3: I would take him and feel very good about it.

1312
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 4: But you're probably getting a guard if you want to

1313
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 4: tackle Arianta Ursery from Minnesota. Okay, he is all right,

1314
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 4: but I thought against Abdul CARTERI held his own so

1315
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 4: early on in that game. He's fighting for his life

1316
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 4: in pass protection. But he did a really good job.

1317
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 4: I thought of adjusting. He's able to move off the ball,

1318
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 4: drive him in the run game. I think he adjusted

1319
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 4: well to kick him wide to the quarterback and pass

1320
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 4: bro as the game goes on. But it's the physicalness

1321
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,959
Speaker 4: in which he plays with, and he's got long, long arms.

1322
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 4: He's inconsistent with his hands, needs to get better there,

1323
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 4: and he can get sloppy with his technique, gets off balance.

1324
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 3: He had played football since I mean he only played

1325
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 3: football his junior year.

1326
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 4: Right right three year starter started the final thirty eight

1327
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 4: games of his career at left tackle.

1328
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 3: But you're right, he only started his junior year there.

1329
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 4: And he also track and field guy, shot put, discus, javelin.

1330
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 4: So he is a strong, powerful, mean streak. And that's

1331
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 4: probably the thing that I like about both these guys.

1332
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 4: They're nasty, they're people movers, right, I'm gonna knock you

1333
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 4: out off the football, and I'm gonna knock your nose

1334
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 4: in the dirt.

1335
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 3: And I like that for my offensive lineman.

1336
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 4: Nursery and mylem would be two guys I'd be very

1337
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 4: excited about in the second round.

1338
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: So you want you want Milam to move to guard

1339
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 2: right short, I like both of those opportunities.

1340
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 3: I think he could play tackle.

1341
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 2: I like him better as a guard to when we

1342
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: were watching Zach Frasier last year. You remember him the

1343
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: center who was just a road greater nail eater. I

1344
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 2: remember looking across and being like, man, who's this guy

1345
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 2: next to him? Just a couple spots down that's wearing

1346
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: the number seventy four, Like, who is this guy? And

1347
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 2: it was it was why a mile? And I agree

1348
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 2: with the strength. I think his pad level gets a

1349
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 2: little high at times. He kind of gets over the

1350
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 2: top a bit coming out of his stance, but for

1351
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 2: the most.

1352
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 3: Part, strong lower body, road greater as well.

1353
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 2: They ran the ball super well this year at West Virginia,

1354
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 2: really well, and I think he's more part of the reason.

1355
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 3: Why and the versatility he showed throughout his year.

1356
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: His years up in Morgantown certainly work out in the favor.

1357
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 3: Tommy, Who you got?

1358
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 8: I got Luke Candra guard from Cincinnati, six four three

1359
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 8: and twenty three pounds, spent his last two years. They

1360
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 8: are transferred from Louisville. This guy is an iron man.

1361
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 8: He played almost seventeen hundred snaps in his last two

1362
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 8: seasons with Cincinnati, did not give up a sack in

1363
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 8: twenty twenty four. He's more technically savvy than he is

1364
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 8: just a straight power guy. But I think in the

1365
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 8: right scheme he can be a really good plug in.

1366
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 8: Played primarily right guard, but I think he can slip

1367
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 8: in anywhere on the interior and give you something in

1368
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 8: the late you know, maybe late day two or early

1369
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 8: day three. Kind of a value pick there. So give

1370
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 8: me Luke Candra Cincinnati.

1371
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 2: Okay, six foot four three, twenty three Cincinnati native too

1372
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 2: went yeah, went back home.

1373
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 3: You got anybody, Brian, Yeah.

1374
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 6: I've got a couple of guys here that I really

1375
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 6: really like. I think I talked about Charles Grant from

1376
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 6: William and Mary last time I did this thing, But

1377
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 6: I want to I want to focus on another guy here,

1378
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 6: and I'm going to mess up his name because I

1379
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 6: always mess.

1380
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 3: Up these names.

1381
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 6: It's one of my favorite things to do. Ozzie Trapilo

1382
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 6: from Boston College. He's six seven three fourteen. This guy's

1383
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 6: got and this is going to kill him right here

1384
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 6: to you guys, this guy's got some Tyler Geidton in him.

1385
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 6: And I say this from watching his Oklahoma tape. But

1386
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 6: he's played a lot more games than Tyler gut And

1387
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 6: has played. He's played all the offensive line positions. He's

1388
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 6: got size, he's got linked, and he's got feet.

1389
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 2: He's a little bit of a shorter guy right only

1390
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 2: he said six seven three fourteen.

1391
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 3: Oh no, I was yeah.

1392
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 6: But there's some snaps where he will bend at the

1393
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 6: waist because of how tall he is. But man, he

1394
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 6: will he will fight, and you know he loses sustained

1395
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 6: at times. But any block that involves movement, he is

1396
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 6: good to go reach block scoop blocks. He will find

1397
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 6: his way from the defender. I really do like this guy.

1398
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 6: He only has allowed two sacks and two seasons, but

1399
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 6: I think he's a really good pass blocker and he's

1400
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 6: developing as a run blocker. So but he's got some

1401
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 6: When you watch Geyton played at Oklahoma, he's got a

1402
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 6: little bit of that game to him, So keep that

1403
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 6: in mind when you're when you're taking a peek at him.

1404
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 6: And then also too, I I also one of these,

1405
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 6: uh Marcus Membo who's a guard from Purdue. He's a

1406
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 6: start and right tackle, and I think they're gonna probably

1407
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 6: have to kick him inside. He's a little bit of

1408
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 6: a smaller guy, but the athletic ability, the movement skills.

1409
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 6: Majority of his snaps are played a two point stance.

1410
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 6: Never saw him as hand on the ground, so I

1411
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 6: got to kind of keep an eye on that. But

1412
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 6: his hands are good and his feet are good, and

1413
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 6: there's some there's some snaps where he completely misses sometimes,

1414
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 6: but he'll scramble to replace everything.

1415
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 3: So I really do like him. Might lack a little.

1416
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 6: Bulk, but there's some really good toughness to his game

1417
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 6: what makes him ideal for that inside position. And I

1418
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 6: think that when you the more that he could play

1419
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 6: on the move, the better he can play.

1420
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 12: Uh.

1421
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: Look, just for name purposes, Trapillo Trapillo yep, okay, is

1422
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 2: what you've got there in the bound bow?

1423
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to find him as well. Yeah, Bobby,

1424
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 3: you got any names?

1425
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1426
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 7: And this is one that I was trying to figure

1427
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 7: out early on if this is a guy that was considered.

1428
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 7: I don't have him in the first and I was

1429
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 7: trying to figure out if he was going to go

1430
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 7: on the first and I think some of what I've

1431
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 7: heard is that he sounds like he'd be more of

1432
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 7: a Day two option earlier in day two. But that's

1433
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 7: Tyler Booker, who I really like at Alabama. If you

1434
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 7: want to redo on the Osiris Torrence thing, to me,

1435
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 7: Booker is a guy like that. It's there's not a

1436
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 7: lot of great foot quickness. Athletic guys can give him

1437
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 7: some trouble at times, but you want to talk about

1438
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 7: power and somebody who can move like make space really quickly,

1439
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 7: play with a lot of power in past protection, even

1440
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 7: though he doesn't have great foot quickness, can get square,

1441
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 7: can handle guys work in that tight area. I think

1442
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 7: Tyler Booker's really impressive and a guy who, like you know,

1443
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 7: for for a guy who's a interior player and a

1444
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 7: big bullker player, he played, he's got a lot of

1445
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 7: really good length. He just doesn't have the foot quickness

1446
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 7: or the size, the nimbleness to be outside and play

1447
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 7: a tackle or anything like that. But I think on

1448
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 7: the interior, Tyler Booker would be a really good option

1449
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 7: in the second round.

1450
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 3: Player too, yeah, very real good.

1451
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 2: Do you think this team looks at the miss of

1452
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 2: Cyrus Torans at all, like like you talked about trying

1453
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: to redo there and go get some size.

1454
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 7: They probably don't. I don't know that. I don't think

1455
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 7: they look at it and go like because.

1456
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 2: That's I don't think it's the second time we've mentioned

1457
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 2: his name this year already.

1458
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 7: I think we probably look at it that way, or

1459
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 7: fans will look at it that way. I think the

1460
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 7: team has a tendency to say, these are our guys,

1461
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 7: these are the ones we had move. I don't know

1462
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 7: how much this team. I think they probably just think

1463
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 7: about Taco Charlton himself rather than in the context of

1464
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 7: t J Watt. I think they just think of the

1465
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 7: things that they the moves they made, rather than the

1466
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 7: ones they didn't.

1467
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 3: Uh it is just bow yeah, no, uh yeah, now

1468
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 3: due watch he's a good player, Mark bu.

1469
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: Buns, So there you go, Yeah, pal Buns. All right,

1470
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 2: that does it for us here on the Draft show.

1471
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 2: I hope you had some fun investigating and educating. Will

1472
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 2: be back on Thursday. To talk it through with you.

1473
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 3: Well, Tommy won't be here to argue with. No, he's here,

1474
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 3: Oh is he?

1475
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go.

1476
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 3: I'll bring some more doughnuts. It'll be good.

1477
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:47,439
Speaker 2: Don't bring the donuts delicious. Yeah, Zach Well brought us Tommy, Risch,

1478
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: Bobby Belt, Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yellmans.

1479
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 3: We'll see you next time on the Draft Show.

1480
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,080
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1481
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