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Speaker 1: There's a lot of ancestor worship, and there's a lot

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Speaker 1: It's just part of your culture. Welcome to Kesha and

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Speaker 1: the Creepies today. So honored to have Margaret to thank

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Speaker 1: so I'm excited to be here. So I couldn't really

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Speaker 1: hear you talking about your cats stripper pool so could

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Speaker 1: So there are a lot better. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: But you have four. It's four different from like two.

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Speaker 1: So that's like the perfect kind of compromise. Yeah, for sure,

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Speaker 1: I am obsessed with this house. It's a great house.

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Speaker 1: then UM, she's here, but she sort of stays out

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Speaker 1: And does that freak you out? Like having the animals?

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Speaker 1: extraterrestrial experiences? I have, but it was really um everybody

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Speaker 1: up in the in the planet, like you just hear

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00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: the weird echoing of the lights. You really feel like,

428
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: oh gosh, there's gotta be some extraterrestrial thing happening. That

429
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: sounds amazing. Did you see the lights of Martha? Yes, yes,

430
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: it's so beautiful. And I was there for the El

431
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: Cosmico Festival um what is that, which is a big

432
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: music It's a big music festival that they put on

433
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 1: in um September every year, and uh so I was

434
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: there um that year. I was actually playing with um

435
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: my band. I don't do music that much, but every

436
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 1: once in a while I was there. I'll do that.

437
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: And so I did one night and then and Moore

438
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: did another night. Cool and it was really it was

439
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: really great. But it was so far and you see,

440
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: like the art there is so out of this world,

441
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: like it's just this magical place. It's almost like not

442
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: on the planet. So you can see like there's like

443
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 1: kind of like there's signs of extra extra trust you

444
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: like there. I think I agree. I actually was there

445
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: pretty recently because I drove home for Christmas. My mom

446
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: would have gone nuts, so I had to drive from

447
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: Los Angeles to Nashville because it's like COVID. I was like, okay,

448
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna like arv it and stopped in Marfa,

449
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 1: and that was the first time I've ever been there,

450
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: and I just remember thinking a lot of things were

451
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: closed because of COVID, obviously, and I didn't want to

452
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: like impose upon the town at all, but just the

453
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: art everywhere. It's just like the most amazing art town.

454
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: But there's the protest store and then many so weird,

455
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: Like when you stick a protest store in the all

456
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: of nowhere in West Texas nowhere, you see how so

457
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: weird it truly is. It really made me look at

458
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: designer clothing and a whole different lay Yeah, like there's

459
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: no context. There's just a prod oft storefront and it's

460
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: just so like surreal but also real, like it's just

461
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: very strang it's so weird and like the giant cutouts

462
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: of cowboys and it was just amazing. I want to

463
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: go back when they're fully open. But you played a

464
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: show there. I didn't even know that they like had

465
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 1: festivals there. I want to play a show there. Oh

466
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: my god, yeah, yeah, that would be great, I think. Um,

467
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: I think it's a really it's quite an amazing festival,

468
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: you know, because it's it's really small, but they also

469
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,959
Speaker 1: have like, um, just a lot, I mean just a

470
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: lot of like wild characters and people who just live

471
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: out there. And then everybody comes from Austin also, so

472
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: it is kind of like Austin's um kind of like

473
00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: their version of like whatever it's bonroo or's like twit

474
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: they would go. So it's really it's really special. That's

475
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: so cool. I was listening to your music when I

476
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: was getting ready this morning, and I love this song

477
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: you did with Fiona Apple, like hay big duck. She

478
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: loves you, she loves you so much. Fiona is a

479
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: really big fan of I love her and she's just

480
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: such a badass snazing and so are you. I'm like

481
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: such a huge fan, has so much respect for the

482
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: both of you. Sod to listen to a song with

483
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: both of you while I was getting ready and like

484
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: putting on my makeup, I was like yes, women rule,

485
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: and it's just like having a total like bad bitch fest,

486
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: like like, who, I'm so excited to talk to you.

487
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: Love it. Oh, I'm definitely enjoying your TikTok to. Oh

488
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: my god, your TikTok is really good. It's beautiful. And

489
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: but I was like, I remember that night was really

490
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: scary because um Ivanka Trump was there. I don't remember

491
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: that she was there. She was in the front row.

492
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: They brought her in because I was walking underneath because

493
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: I was late and I was walking underneath. They have

494
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: like this pathway underneath, and she was walking in and

495
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: I was walking in and I saw her, and I

496
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: was like, I got really scared. I don't know why

497
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: I got scared, Like I was gonna get deported. It's

498
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: a horrible feeling. It's a horrible Oh. I'm so sorry.

499
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: I would just get scared because I just don't want

500
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: to be in the same room as anyone in that family.

501
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just don't want to. But yeah, I

502
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: didn't know she was there. I'm happy I didn't know

503
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: she was there, actually, because that would have probably stressed

504
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: me out for separate reasons. It's weird that she would

505
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: be in an event that was really about promoting meditation

506
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: in public schools. Like that's kind of like what the

507
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: whole thing was about. Like they're just trying to promote

508
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: this idea of like let's teach meditation in school for

509
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: to help anxiety, help kids regulate just everything, their emotions,

510
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: their anxiety. That's like what I learned m four and

511
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: it was it's been really helpful just to like bring

512
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: me back down to earth regulate all of that. So

513
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: the fact that she was there seems a little bit hypocritical.

514
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: And then um was she was there with Jared Kushner,

515
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: who just always looks like he's like a mannequin that

516
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: smelled a ship. So he got the bace of like

517
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: it's like a mannequin, but it's also like a mannequin

518
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: that smelled a ship. It's just a weird, like a

519
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: plastic man who smelled the ship. It's a very very

520
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: it's like the Kendall that smelled a ship. Oh I

521
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: love that. Yeah, then dried that way like mammafied. Oh

522
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: my god, I'm so happy I didn't know they were

523
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: there because I sang, I sang at that, and I

524
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: remember at the very end were you did you come

525
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: out at the very end. I forget who was playing,

526
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: but they played like a big song at the end

527
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,239
Speaker 1: where everybody came out, and I just remember being like,

528
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: this is so awkward. I don't know. I was like

529
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: standing next to someone who was very lovely, but I

530
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know you, and they're like, put

531
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: your hand the Katy Kirk. Yeah, it's just like we

532
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: and it was just so awkward. Some of these things

533
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: that we do for like beautiful causes with great intentions

534
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: art can be awkward. Yeah, definitely, definitely. It's just a

535
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: weird thing to do anything with the Kennedy Center. Always

536
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: there's there's something that's very kind of like grown up

537
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: about it. She has to be really grown up there.

538
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: But every event I've always been there, it's like they're

539
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: super weird things going on underneath it all. So do

540
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: you get ready in the base? He was there. Oh, yeah,

541
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: that was super weird. Yeah I got ready in the basement. Yeah.

542
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: I mean I'm usually like getting ready in the basement,

543
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: like coming off of the plane and trying to get there,

544
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: and it's not too far from the airport, so I

545
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: can usually make it. So it was just it was

546
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: a strange one for me. It was a strange man,

547
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: always weird. Yeah, but um no, I was digressing. We

548
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: started talking about aliens and Jerry Seinfeld. I don't know

549
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: how we got there. I did read that you've lived

550
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: in haunted houses pretty much your entire life. The most

551
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: haunted house, yeah, it's very natural. But the most haunted

552
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: house I lived in UH was in Atlanta and it

553
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: was right by um right, it was in Peachtree City.

554
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: It was right by the studio that I was working

555
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: in is. I lived there for about a year and

556
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: it was very active and UH. I went back to

557
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: the house with the psychic couple of years later, and

558
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: next to every bed there was some kind of an

559
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: oxygen machine and the family there were like they were

560
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: all really sick. And then the bathtub had broken in half,

561
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: the marble countertops had broken in half, and but the

562
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: family was really Christian and they were like, we don't

563
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: know anything, there's nothing wrong here. And I'm like, first

564
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: of all, you're all on sub mental oxygen, your bathtub broken,

565
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: your marble counter broken half, and nothing's wrong. So the

566
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: psychic told me that the in the eighties, two teenage

567
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: boys had done a ritual with um an animal sacrifice

568
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: and an open to hell mouth. And I was like,

569
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: oh my god, and this is the house you lived in.

570
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: You lived in a hell mouth. I've never even heard

571
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: that time before. I'm like, and it was really like

572
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: it was very like weird, like Judas priests like say

573
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: you love Satan like weird backwards masking like him. I

574
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: don't believe in any of that sort of like Satanic stuff.

575
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that Satanists are actually Satanists, are only

576
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: Satanists to troll Christians of just doing it to troll people.

577
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: I mean, Satanis usually are atheists who are just trying

578
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: to give people who don't have a church to have

579
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: equal rights. It's actually really vacuuman rights. Oh the Satanic

580
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: temple leader I spoke with that. The whole thing I'm

581
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: so on board with. It's all about empathy and respecting

582
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: science and compassion and treating each other with respect and

583
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: just keeping mainly just keeping politics and religion separate. And

584
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: if they start to get ameshed, they come in as

585
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: a mirror to be like wait, wait, wait, if you're

586
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: gonna favor Christianity and like Judeo Christianic like Christianity something

587
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: based on that. Then you have to also respect the

588
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: Satanic Temple as a religion, so you have to respect

589
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: our religion. So I have so much respect for the

590
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: Satanic Temple. I love it. I love it. I really

591
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: respect them, and I think that they're really an important

592
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: part of culture. But I don't buy in the idea

593
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: of people teenage boys doing an animal sacrifice to make hell.

594
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: What's exactly good. I like the idea of a hell mouth.

595
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: I don't know why. It just sounds like volcano over

596
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: evil spirits to just like be exercised from the earth

597
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: or something. But if all the ship was breaking, maybe

598
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: it was a hell mouth. I don't know. Do you

599
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: believe it was, I don't know. I think that it

600
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: was an psychically active house. I think that it was

601
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: a bit of a trickster ghost who was pretty mischievous

602
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 1: and liked to cause trouble and liked when things were

603
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: like kind of funny, like um getting in bed with me,

604
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: you know, like when I was in bed and something

605
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: got in bed with me, I could feel the bed

606
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: go down, and I was so scared I didn't move

607
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: and then finally turned over to there was nothing there,

608
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: So just stuff like that, like well you know, kind

609
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: of stuff like that was like kind of really unsettling

610
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: but very small and like so it's weird, super scary.

611
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: And so then I moved out and another one of

612
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: my co stars moved in and the day that he

613
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: moved in, he went outside to smoke cigarette and the

614
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: door locked and dead bolted and he couldn't get back inside.

615
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: So the ghost like just locked it just like dead bolted.

616
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: So it didn't like boys, it was very like it was.

617
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: It was kind of okay with me because like when

618
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: I started to hear things, I would say, just try

619
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: and don't scare me. You can be here. Like if

620
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm scared someplace, if my contureship ghost, we'll usually just

621
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: talk to whoever is there. And I would like I'd

622
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: be like, you know, just just don't scare me. I'm

623
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 1: an old lady. Please. They're not an old lady together,

624
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: I know, but I mean it's like, you know, you

625
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: just don't want to like you don't want to not

626
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: acknowledge it. The rest thing new is acknowledged and go

627
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: I'm afraid, so please try not to make me afraid.

628
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: We can coax this here. I'm fine with that, but

629
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm just scared. This is the exact same thing I

630
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: do when I get scared, as I just start talking

631
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: to whomever I think is there. And I've actually like

632
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: a couple of relationships have been like sent down a

633
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: path after I've started speaking to a spirit and they're like,

634
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: what the fox is wrong with you? And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no,

635
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: don't judge me. I'm having a polite conversation with this

636
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: entity or spirit. I'm trying to be respectful. And then

637
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: some of the people I've dated have been like, oh,

638
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: you're crazy, and I'm like, this isn't gonna work. Do

639
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: you think that's crazy? Because you gotta like acknowledge, like

640
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: if you feel something, there's something there, you know, like

641
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 1: we're not afraid for no reason, and there's energy energy

642
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: around us. Absolutely, and good to talk to the to

643
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: the spirit. I think you're right, Like if we are

644
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: in a separate dimension to them and they're in a

645
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: separate dimension to us, yet we're showing ourselves to each other,

646
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: then it's nice to have an acknowledgement of presence. Yes,

647
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: I think it's just polite. Yeah, we're just being polite. Great,

648
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: But so you lived there. I lived there. Um, and

649
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: then there was um she's singing, she's crying. She's crying

650
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: because there's somebody on the outside of the door of

651
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: that something she doesn't like. Um. But they were saying that,

652
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: you know that they the owners were in Europe and

653
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: couldn't be contracted. But if I wanted to move out,

654
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: they would let me out of the least, no problem.

655
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: Like it was very like, oh, we know there's something wrong.

656
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, just go. It's but do you

657
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: ever move into a place and you're attracted to it

658
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: because there is the possibility that it might have spirits

659
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 1: Because me personally, I like going to places that people

660
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: have told me have spirits. Absolutely, I mean I think

661
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: that's what attracted me to the house that I live

662
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: in now. And I've been here since about and certainly

663
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, there's a sense of history here, um, and

664
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: I love that and my own history now, so even

665
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: my own ghosts are haunting, which I think is really fantastic. Yeah,

666
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: if if, and when you decide to be a ghost

667
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: in your afterlife, do you think this would be the

668
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: place so haunt. I would love to hunt this house.

669
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: I would love to haunt this house. But I wouldn't.

670
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be here um as myself in two thousand

671
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: and three. So I would be here with highlights and

672
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: a juicy kicture track suit and ugs with some kind

673
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: of beating and bejeweling them, and a flip phone and

674
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: a lock around texting people on a flip phone or

675
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: a sidekick in old school psydekick, Oh my god, I

676
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: just I have been thinking about just switching over to

677
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: the flipphone. Just I don't know. I wonder if my

678
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: stress levels would go down if I just had a

679
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 1: flip phone. Like was the world a better place when

680
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: we just had flip phone? Maybe? But also you would

681
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 1: have you would get I would get a hand cramped

682
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: because I would try to text and you would have

683
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: to do like this series of numbers and keep on

684
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: hitting it. That was a little tough. But I did

685
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: love a sidekick because you have the actual keyboard. Remember

686
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: that BlackBerry? Is that the same kind of thing? The blackberries?

687
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: The same thing? And um one time Teagan of Teagan

688
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: and Sarah took her nail and flipped out the pearl

689
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: and like cleaned out the pearl and then pushed it

690
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 1: back in and it was so vaginal. Like I realized

691
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: how like easy it was for lesbian to go in

692
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: and just knock out the clitoris of the black girl

693
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: and then like flick flick it back in. It was

694
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: really handy. It sounds empowering. It was very empowering. I

695
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: love them. Did you ever play it shows with them?

696
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 1: I played shows to them. I have done music with them.

697
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: I've gone to see them millions of times, which I'm

698
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: so I think they they have the I mean, they

699
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: have the greatest stage show and they're just an amazing band.

700
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: So I really I really love seeing them seeing them

701
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: me too. I really miss going to see actually miss

702
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: going to see. Stand up comedy is the first thing

703
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: I went out and saw. I saw Oswald Whitney Commings.

704
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: There are a bunch of like amazing people on the bill,

705
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: and it was like an outdoor very Yeah, that's great.

706
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: Very It was like very weird to go out to

707
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: a thing and see people on a microphone. But that

708
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: was my first fora into the world and it was calm.

709
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: It was like stand up comedy. I have to see it.

710
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: So have you done any stand up since COVID? Yeah,

711
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: I've done a couple of those. Outdoor shows and it's

712
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: really fun. Um. I've done a lot of shows actually

713
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: streaming and um on social media which have been fun too,

714
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: because an art to it for sure. Yeah, um, and

715
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: so you know, I'm looking forward to going back and

716
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: doing it. The last show that I did in a

717
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: nightclub was actually on um March thirteenth of and so

718
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: it'd be great to go back to a nightclub that

719
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: That day was really memorable because I went out to

720
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: go to um Horriville Pets sound check. I'm like trying to, like,

721
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: you know, my old groupie Ways is like going to

722
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: like their sound check. Yeah, that's so easy, so great,

723
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: so great. But then um, he wasn't there, but he

724
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: his show ended up getting postponed, so he came to

725
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: my show and so we spent our sort of last

726
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: weekend out so at least it was with him, which

727
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: is really great. But I love that you guys have

728
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: worked together. I can't wait to hear what that that's

729
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: going to sound like. Yeah, I mean it's really interesting

730
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: and totally like out of both of our wheelhouses just

731
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: a little bit, but really not that far of a

732
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: stretch for me because I'm from Nashville, so it all

733
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: just kind of works. I love it. He's such a

734
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: guy too. I love him. Yeah, yeah, I can. I

735
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: can really see you together. That's perfect. Thanks, But I

736
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 1: love that you spent your last three days with him.

737
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: What a lovely person to spend with. My last free

738
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: day was March first in Sydney, Australia Pride on my

739
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: birthday with Dualipa and Sam Smith. I played it like

740
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 1: four in the morning, and that was my last show

741
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: I played before COVID. But we went out with a

742
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: bang and then we're going to come back into the bank.

743
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: That's a great one. I love it. I'm so curious

744
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: about your relationship with John Rivers because I know you

745
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: have a close or you had a close relationship with her,

746
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: and she's just such an icon and I look up

747
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: to her so much and so funny and just such

748
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: a boss and everything. And I just wanted to know

749
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: if she ever gave you any amazing advice or advice

750
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: that's stuck with you, or have you ever talked to

751
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: her even though she's passed on. But I do, I,

752
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: but I really have no sense of her presence, you know,

753
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 1: like she really liked like she's gone to the next

754
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: thing She's like on like, I don't feel her at all,

755
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,479
Speaker 1: and that her advice was really more just a vote

756
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: of confidence and that you know, the older you get,

757
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: the more you'll work, the more they're gonna want you,

758
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: the more that you'll do, and you're gonna be around

759
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: for a really long time. And I think that's a

760
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: wonderful thing to think about, you know, And I agree

761
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: with her. I I do think that I've worked more

762
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 1: as I've gotten older and gotten better. So I'm really

763
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: grateful to her. And I missed her a lot, you know,

764
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: because she was somebody that you could just go to

765
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: for advice about dumb things or things that we're even

766
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: like about relationships or whatever. She was always there with

767
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: a ready ear and she would always pay. But she

768
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: was cheap, but she was also expensive, so she was

769
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 1: like fancy but also would let you know how much

770
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: it costs. Well. I met her one time and she

771
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: just was like, I was like, so star struck. She's

772
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: coming out of an elevator. Is the brief, the most

773
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: brief interaction. But it just stuck with me because she

774
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, we talked about you all the time

775
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: on my show. It's fabulous. Keep looking terrible, honey, it

776
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: works for you. And I was like, oh my god,

777
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: and I was like walking on to stage at this moment.

778
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know how to take that.

779
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: You should take it good because it's like, really like,

780
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: she only would make fun of your outfits if she

781
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: liked you. Okay, great, So that was kind of really

782
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: all because she would make fun of Michaels all the

783
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: time on that show and I loved it. So it's like,

784
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: really like she only you only like make fun of

785
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: the people you love. It's so true, right, you make

786
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: fun of people, you're like either you love them or

787
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: you're envious of them. And I'm pretty sure she wasn't

788
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: envious of me, so she must I'm just gonna think

789
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: she loved me. I'm sure she was envious too. Before

790
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: I let you go, I just wanted to ask you

791
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: about your podcast, the Margaret Show, Mortal Minority, and I

792
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: just wanted everyone who's listening to be able to know

793
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: where to find it. What it's about. From you, Well,

794
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: it's about the history of Asian American hate crimes and

795
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: juxtaposed with this modern surge in Asian American hate crimes.

796
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: So we see that it's actually a pattern, so cecyclical

797
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: nature of violence against Asian Americans, and you know, we've

798
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: been dealing with it since nine So I think it's

799
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: really an important podcast. And so I talked to a

800
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: lot of Asian American and influencers, artists, actors, and comedians

801
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: all across the board. You know, we're really kind of

802
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: coming together and learning about this history and learning about

803
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: what's happening now. So I really love it, and people

804
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: can get it anywhere they listen to podcasts. So just

805
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: listening to your podcast was so informative and I appreciate

806
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: so much just the information that you can get from it.

807
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: And I wanted to ask you if there's a particular

808
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 1: place or ization that you think is leading the charge

809
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: in terms of information about how to be. I think

810
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: I like Rice Feed, which is on Instagram, and Asians

811
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: with Attitudes on Instagram and Jackfruit on Instagram. Also said

812
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: the Fan, which is C. E. F. A. A. N

813
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: who is a New York journalist who covers a lot

814
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: of the different hate crimes that have been happening in

815
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: New York City, which there's quite a few. So it's

816
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: it's really important to stay aware of all of this

817
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: that's going on, and it reminds me that, um, you know,

818
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: because I was around during the AIDS epidemic and people

819
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: were using AIDS to justify their homophobic hatred and so

820
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 1: there was a lot of violence against gay people during

821
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 1: that time around AIDS, and so you know, people will

822
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: use these quote unquote excuses in order to act out

823
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: on hatred that they already have, and it's really unfortunate,

824
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: but it's good to know. Well, everybody should check it

825
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,479
Speaker 1: out anywhere. You can listen to podcast, The Margaret Show,

826
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: Mortal Minority, And I just want to say thank you

827
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: so much for being on Cash and the Creepies. I'm

828
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: such a fan. It's such an honor. You're such an icon.

829
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: And hopefully when the world opens back up, I would

830
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: love to come see you perform like either music. I

831
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: would stand up anything, So just let me know when

832
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: I would be there. You thank you, keep on creeping on,

833
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: thank you for listening, and thank you for being here. Well,

834
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: this is really cool. I'm excited. I'm got so I'm

835
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: glad we got to do it.