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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. This week, we

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Speaker 1: are celebrating Small Business Week. It's a time where we

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Speaker 1: are here at the Job Creators Network Freedom Fighter's Summit,

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Speaker 1: and I have ej Antoni with me. He is a

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Speaker 1: public finance economist I can't even speak today, and a

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Speaker 1: fellow at the Heritage Foundation. So tell us a little

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Speaker 1: bit about we're seeing some interesting things. We've been talking

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Speaker 1: a lot about the jobs report. Well, we're seeing some

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Speaker 1: interesting things because the leftist media is saying that we're

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Speaker 1: going to have an economic crisis on our hands. What

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Speaker 1: is your response to that.

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Speaker 2: I would love to know where the sense of alarm

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Speaker 2: has been for the last four years when we actually

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Speaker 2: have had an economic crisis.

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Speaker 3: Right, there's all this.

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Speaker 2: Talk about recession because we had a temporary dip in

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Speaker 2: GDP or gross domestic product, that's one of the statistics

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Speaker 2: we use to try to measure the size of the economy. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: they completely ignored the fact that you at two quarters

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Speaker 2: consecutive quarters under Biden where you had the exact same thing,

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Speaker 2: you had negative GDP growth. But somehow we completely ignored

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Speaker 2: that and change the definition of a recession. But all regardless,

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Speaker 2: if we talk about how are people actually doing in

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Speaker 2: the economy, which is what I care about. The macro

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Speaker 2: statistics are great, that's meaningful, But I really want to

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Speaker 2: know things like what can the average American actually buy

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: What is their standard of living and what's their cost

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Speaker 1: Can that really be improved? I mean, we keep hearing

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Speaker 1: it getting the prices down? Is that we're going to

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Speaker 1: there's going to be an overall economic boom, because that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm hearing from people on the ground. Like my

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And so what's the solution to that. We've got

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Speaker 2: to reverse the bad public policies that caused it in

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Speaker 3: And so it's not just a.

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Speaker 2: Matter of slowing the increase in prices, but it is

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Speaker 2: the same time, we want income to keep growing. So

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Speaker 2: as long as people's incomes keep growing faster than prices are,

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Speaker 2: that's good, right, because you're getting ahead. But we want

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Speaker 2: it to be even better where the prices are going down.

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Speaker 2: We want prices down, we want interest rates down, We

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Speaker 2: want people to be able to afford a home.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this has been an absolute deadly combination where

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Speaker 1: What do you think is the public understanding of their

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Speaker 1: own economic situation? Because I do, I mean, I hear

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Speaker 1: what you're saying. I've had other people kind of counter

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Speaker 1: well we have to. So you think that is because,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there is certainly an increase even in what

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Speaker 1: those are have tos, but it kind of is how

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Speaker 1: society is now. So how do young people look at

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the reasons why we're seeing more spending

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Speaker 3: People are young.

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Speaker 2: People are looking at homes and saying, I can literally

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Speaker 2: never afford that. The only chance I have of owning

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to take all that money and rent,

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Speaker 2: which means I can rent a bigger place than I

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Speaker 3: So you know, this is one of the.

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Speaker 2: Reasons why inflation is so deadly to the long term

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Speaker 2: growth prospects of an economy. It incentivizes people not to

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Speaker 1: So then what happens in twenty and thirty years when

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Speaker 1: these people all get out of the workforce and they

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Speaker 1: have new savings. I mean, what is going to be

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Speaker 2: Point, Well, it's going to be all those people now

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Speaker 2: reliant on social services. But at the same time, that's

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Speaker 2: the individual level. What's happen at the macro level? The

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Speaker 2: Where do you get the computers and AI? All these

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Speaker 2: things require investment, which comes from savings. Well, if nobody's

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Speaker 1: What are the biggest things that you can have an

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Speaker 1: there talking about making life better for Americans, are we

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Speaker 1: That to me is it's the kind of the nastiest

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Speaker 1: your situation is, you have to buy gas. Sure, So

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Speaker 1: what are the areas where like a President Trump can

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Speaker 1: come in and immediately start to lower prices. We saw

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Speaker 1: other opportunities with ag there? Is there anything else with energy?

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Speaker 1: What are the places he can have the biggest impact?

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Speaker 2: Gasoline is a great example because even if you're not

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Speaker 2: but whatever the case, getting those energy prices down therefore

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Speaker 3: Prices, you reduce prices throughout the economy.

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Speaker 1: That actually the biggest factor, and because that's something that

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Speaker 1: we've talked about a lot, I know that was always

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Speaker 1: And that's where I don't think that people are always

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Speaker 1: hear the Democrats go, oh my gosh, these tariffs they

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Speaker 3: Of course the sense of alarm, right, that.

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Speaker 1: Is immediate and everything, and it's immediate, and it is

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Speaker 1: on every product because every product moves to get to

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Speaker 1: your house exactly.

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Speaker 3: And it's such a great point.

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Speaker 2: Shootor and I would go one step further and say

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Speaker 2: energy is an input not only as energy, it's an

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Speaker 2: We synthesize that all that urea and other products too

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Speaker 2: if not the biggest cost input in our food supply.

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Speaker 2: And so all of a sudden you've started bringing down

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Speaker 1: That's something that we also don't talk about enough is

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Speaker 2: Sure, and look, there are no If you're looking for

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, but you're still stuck paying the higher cost

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Speaker 2: It's worse than annoying because in instances like that, what

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Speaker 2: Long because because we're trying to meet all these insane

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Speaker 2: You need to be able to essentially cut any emissions

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Speaker 1: How can reducing these regulations to so let's this will

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Speaker 3: Regulations are a penalty on economic activity that never gets

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Speaker 2: And so as you start to not only reduce taxes

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Speaker 1: There. You made me think a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 3: They're going through the budget with a fine toothed home and.

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Speaker 2: They're looking at all these crazy examples of why are

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Speaker 2: we wasting tax pair dollars on A, B and C.

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Speaker 3: There's no reaching.

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Speaker 1: Back and say a quarter point that's nothing. No, we're

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Speaker 1: talking billions. When you're in this kind of this kind

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Speaker 1: of money, when you're talking trillions of dollars even, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you have to start somewhere. That's what frustrates the name

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Speaker 1: with people when they are just like, oh, this is

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Speaker 1: not enough. It is we just get to keep going.

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Speaker 1: You gotta starty something. Well, thank you so much. I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate having you on today. It's been a great

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Speaker 1: conversation and it's been great to be here at the

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Speaker 1: Job Greaters Network Freedom Fighters Summit. It's been amazing. Eg Antony,

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Speaker 1: thank you my pleasure.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Many thanks to EJ and Tooni for joining us. And

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Speaker 1: coming up next is the twenty seventh Secretary of Labor

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Speaker 1: for the United States, Alex Acosta, will join us to

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Speaker 1: discuss the state of small business in the US. Stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: We are here at the Job Creators Network Freedom Fighters

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Speaker 1: Summit and I have Secretary Acosta with me. You are

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Speaker 1: the twenty seventh Labor Secretary. This is a very interesting

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Speaker 1: time we're at in the United States. It's a wonderful time,

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Speaker 1: and it is a wonderful time and so I'm so

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Speaker 1: glad that you're here to talk to us about it

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Speaker 1: because this is your expertise. Obviously, today this we're we

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Speaker 1: are recording this ahead of time, but today here at

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Speaker 1: the summit, while we're here, the Job's report came out

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Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, Secretary alex Acosta, this

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Speaker 1: is the guy he will know about this. And then

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Speaker 1: you were like, you said that to me, and you

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Speaker 1: must have heard what I said. I didn't, So I'm

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Speaker 1: really excited to hear what you have to say about it,

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Speaker 1: because I think it's very interesting.

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Speaker 4: So we're just talking about deregulation and how much President

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Speaker 4: Trump is doing in deregulation, and you know, I think

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Speaker 4: sometimes Americans have a hard time understanding what it means

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Speaker 4: to say ten billion versus twenty billion versus you know,

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Speaker 4: half a trillion, because it's just so so so much.

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Speaker 4: The numbers are so big. What does it mean? And

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Speaker 4: so I wanted to break it down because the job's

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Speaker 4: numbers just came out this morning, and I think the

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Speaker 4: jobs number offer an interesting view into what deregulation means.

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Speaker 4: And so last year, our economy generated one and a

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Speaker 4: half million jobs, which is good, but let's talk about

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Speaker 4: what that meant. Four one hundred thousand of those jobs

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Speaker 4: were government jobs. So out of the one and a

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Speaker 4: half million. Four hundred thousand were government jobs.

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Speaker 1: It's like a third of the job.

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Speaker 4: Nine hundred thousand new government jobs, new net new government jobs. Good, great,

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Speaker 4: well third of the jobs, give or take. You know,

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Speaker 4: we're new net government jobs. Nine hundred thousand is what

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Speaker 4: I'll call government adjacent jobs. And what by government adjacent

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Speaker 4: I mean healthcare services.

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Speaker 3: And education services.

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Speaker 4: We didn't get a lot more new teachers, we didn't

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Speaker 4: get a lot more doctors and nurses. We got more

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Speaker 4: hospital administrators. I was talking to someone in the audience

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Speaker 4: that said, you know, that's fascinating because I worked at

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Speaker 4: a hospital and we had to hire an army of

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Speaker 4: compliance specialists to comply with the new insurance rules, and

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Speaker 4: we actually had to fire healthcare staff because of the regulations.

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Speaker 4: So nine hundred thousand jobs to comply with healthcare and

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Speaker 4: education oversight.

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Speaker 1: So that makes sense because in Michigan, the after COVID,

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Speaker 1: the governor enacted this racial bias testing that had to

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Speaker 1: occur in all of our hospitals. So then you had

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Speaker 1: to hire a lot of people to administer the racial

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Speaker 1: bias testing, and then people did get fired because they

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Speaker 1: had to spend so much money on the racial bias testing.

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Speaker 1: And then these people took these tests and they said

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Speaker 1: they were incredibly insulting because they said, we don't we

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Speaker 1: don't judge whether or not we are going to treat

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Speaker 1: somebody based on the race. This is ridiculous. What a

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Speaker 1: waste of money?

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Speaker 3: You treat them because they're a person.

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Speaker 1: That's right, yes, right.

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Speaker 4: And so they actually let go of nurses and healthcare

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Speaker 4: staff to hire compliance and regulatory folks and called bureaucracy.

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Speaker 3: Right, So nine hundred.

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Speaker 4: Thousand of those jobs went to healthcare and education throcs.

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Speaker 4: And what that meant was only two hundred thousand netnew jobs,

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Speaker 4: where like folks doing things like making things right, you know,

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Speaker 4: not not government workers adding tiber, not you know, bureaucrats

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Speaker 4: in the hospitals, but you know, actual doctors and nurses

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Speaker 4: and teachers and manufacturers.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I was going to say. When you

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Speaker 1: think about people who make I come from the foundry world,

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Speaker 1: So I was a maker of things, you know, and

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Speaker 1: there's some certain pride in making things. And that is

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Speaker 1: what we keep hearing from Donald Trump is we've got

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Speaker 1: to get back to he said just in Michigan this week,

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Speaker 1: those three beautiful words I love to hear made in America.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's what we want, and.

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Speaker 3: That's what we wanted.

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Speaker 4: So out of the one and a half million jobs

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Speaker 4: created last year, only two hundred thousand we're outside of

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Speaker 4: government or government Jason Sectors.

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Speaker 1: That's shocking.

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Speaker 4: Now, let's talk about this year so far since President

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Speaker 4: Trump took office. The new job numbers were out this morning,

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Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy seven thousand, better than expected. That's

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Speaker 4: good news, that's great news. But here's what I love

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Speaker 4: about it. We've already created two hundred thousand since some

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Speaker 4: President Trump took office, thousand jobs making things and doing

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Speaker 4: things and doing something that's not a government job.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: We've only created in gut. When I say government, I

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Speaker 4: mean federal, state and local. But federal, state and local.

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Speaker 4: This year, we've created twenty thousand jobs, not four hundred

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Speaker 4: thousand jobs, right. And so the jobs that are being

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Speaker 4: created are the private sector jobs that pay really well,

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Speaker 4: that increase our economy, that increase our our lifestyle, that

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Speaker 4: make us happier, right, that make us healthier, that make

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Speaker 4: us better educated.

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Speaker 3: That's what we want in this economy.

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Speaker 1: I heard Senator Earned saying that these are the types

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Speaker 1: of jobs that free up the economy. And I thought

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Speaker 1: that was that was something that was very profound because

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Speaker 1: we don't think about the government jobs. They stifle the economy.

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Speaker 1: That is, if you are creating more government, it is

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Speaker 1: to stop business from being free. If you are creating

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Speaker 1: manufact if you're creating jobs where people do things, if

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Speaker 1: you're creating actual jobs for nurses and doctors, that is

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Speaker 1: freeing up the economy.

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Speaker 4: To take your hospital example in Michigan, you know, the

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Speaker 4: hospital's purpose is to make people healthier. You're not making

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Speaker 4: them healthier by creating more compliance specialists and letting go

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Speaker 4: of nurses. You're making them healthier by hiring more nurses

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Speaker 4: take care of all people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So the question is that why did

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration make so many government jobs. I think

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Speaker 1: that's what people don't understand and they don't see it.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the things that we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about the economy later and whether or not we

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Speaker 1: need to raise taxes or we're overspending, which obviously we

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Speaker 1: are overspending, but the American people don't necessarily see that

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Speaker 1: every day because they don't see these special interest groups

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Speaker 1: that are like, oh, we're going to spend for you know,

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Speaker 1: to make sure that people are having diversity in the

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Speaker 1: workplace in Serbia. Why are we spending that kind of money?

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Speaker 1: So how do you get how does this translate into

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Speaker 1: talking to.

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Speaker 3: The American So I think there are a few things

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Speaker 3: on the table.

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Speaker 4: First, it's easiest to create a government job because all

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Speaker 4: you have to do is write a check, right, And

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Speaker 4: so you know, if you're worried about how the economy

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Speaker 4: is doing, you're going into an election and you're worried

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Speaker 4: about how is the economy doing, and your President Biden,

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Speaker 4: you can say, let's create a bunch of government jobs.

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Speaker 4: And now, all of a sudden, the job numbers look better.

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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, you have government workers that are

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Speaker 4: going to vote for you because you just gave them

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Speaker 4: a job. The country's not healthier. It's not the right

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Speaker 4: thing to do in the long run, but it's the

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Speaker 4: easy fix. It's the sugar fix. It's sort of like,

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Speaker 4: you know, we have kids and sometimes you're trying to

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Speaker 4: do five things and you know your your child wants

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Speaker 4: to have some cake, and you're like, okay, go ahead

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Speaker 4: and have that cake. That's not the right move. That's

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Speaker 4: not the healthy move.

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Speaker 3: But it's the easiest.

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Speaker 4: We've all done that, right, you know, I'll have a

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Speaker 4: six year old and so so, yeah, it's the sugar fix,

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Speaker 4: and I think that's part of it. The other part

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Speaker 4: of it is, I think genuinely there's a difference between

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Speaker 4: Democrats and Republicans and how they look at things. I

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Speaker 4: think democrats genuinely believe that the government should tell you

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Speaker 4: how you know, how to do things. You see this,

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Speaker 4: for example, with the vaccine mandate. You see this with

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Speaker 4: so many other things where you know, they want to

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Speaker 4: empower government workers to come up with rules to govern

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Speaker 4: your life. And I think conservatives people say, look, it's

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Speaker 4: my life, you know, I know, and I should know

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Speaker 4: what's best for me, and if not, I'm going to

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Speaker 4: learn from it. And so I want to make my

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Speaker 4: own decisions. And that creates a whole different, you know,

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Speaker 4: approach to how big government should be.

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting because I posted something about AOC and

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Speaker 1: how bad her policies are and the amount of comments

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Speaker 1: that I got back saying government should take care of us,

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Speaker 1: that she is there to make sure government takes care

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Speaker 1: of us, and how did we get here? Were there

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Speaker 1: is a vast amount of the population that believes that

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Speaker 1: government is there to make sure that you have the

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Speaker 1: necessities like roads, that you have the necessities like police

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Speaker 1: and fire, that you have the necessities like education, is

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Speaker 1: actually that they should care for you. That has never

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Speaker 1: been the thought process of the United States. But we're

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Speaker 1: going that direction.

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Speaker 4: Wait, we are going that way, and we're replacing the

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Speaker 4: role of family with government. Right, that's right, and and

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Speaker 4: and that and that's so dangerous, you know. And so

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Speaker 4: a lot of these regulations that the liberals come out

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Speaker 4: with is to replace family. It's you know, it's to

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Speaker 4: replace community caring for someone with the government check. But

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Speaker 4: that's really not caring that that that's another form of

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Speaker 4: that sugar, you know, high instead of us going through

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Speaker 4: the effort of you know, yesterday, one of the guests

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Speaker 4: here was sitting on the floor and someone brought a

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Speaker 4: share to her right away, right. And what's interesting is

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Speaker 4: someone actually went through the effort of going and finding

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Speaker 4: a chair and coming back and saying, sit on a chair,

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Speaker 4: not befloor. It wasn't let's call the hotel staff and

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Speaker 4: let's engage the hotel bureaucracy, you know, to help this woman.

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Speaker 4: And so I think at a big picture the differences.

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Speaker 4: The Democrats want to have a safety staff that will

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Speaker 4: then find the right, you know, the right safety mechanism

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Speaker 4: for the woman to get off the floor. The conservative

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Speaker 4: view is an older lady just felt, let's get her

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Speaker 4: a chair so she's not sitting on the steps.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 1: So this is interesting because in high schools right now,

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Speaker 1: there is a push in at least in the state

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Speaker 1: of Michigan to put these health clinics in high school

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Speaker 1: so that it's whole of care, full of childcare. So

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Speaker 1: the child goes to the school, they at some point

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Speaker 1: are dismissed to the health clinic for their annual checkup.

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Speaker 1: They get their vaccinations there. That's all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: something that to me is very family personal that now

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Speaker 1: is going to be at the school. You've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of administrative work to manage the chech And in Michigan,

666
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Speaker 1: we don't have control of our child's healthcare record after

667
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Speaker 1: the age of twelve at all. They have to sign

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Speaker 1: medical proxy over to their parents and I can still

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Speaker 1: only see a certain amount of their tests and their

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Speaker 1: results because they get total consult of their healthcare after twelve,

671
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Speaker 1: which is outrageous that now this is like we're going

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Speaker 1: to take all of that out of the family, We're

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Speaker 1: going to put that all in the schools. But the

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Speaker 1: interesting thing to me is that there is no accountability

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Speaker 1: in the schools for actual education. We're forty first in

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Speaker 1: the nation for literacy and for education, so we're a

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Speaker 1: disaster right when it comes to actually holding the schools

678
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Speaker 1: accountable for what they are meant to do. There is

679
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Speaker 1: no push to see that these kids can do school

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Speaker 1: extracurricular activities like football and basketball and those things. And

681
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Speaker 1: yet there have been many studies that have shown that

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Speaker 1: if kids are engaged in a sport or a club

683
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Speaker 1: and that requires them to do well in school, that

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Speaker 1: will lift the entire school because if you see the

685
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Speaker 1: jocks having to actually attain a certain GPA. When did

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Speaker 1: we get to the point where we take away the

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Speaker 1: things that are the core part of what we provide

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Speaker 1: to students and we try to create the family around

689
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Speaker 1: the kid in the school. This is scary.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I wasn't aware of the Michigan statute,

691
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Speaker 4: and I think it's frightening because what's happening there is

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Speaker 4: the school is replacing the parents, the school.

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Speaker 3: What you're telling me is that parents.

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Speaker 4: Literally after twelve have no control over the child's healthcare

695
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Speaker 4: unless the child signs it, and that the school wants

696
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Speaker 4: to take over that child's healthcare.

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Speaker 3: And that's just wrong.

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Speaker 4: It's another form of the government replacing the family. Yeah, right,

699
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Speaker 4: And you know, it's quite literally a step toward a

700
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Speaker 4: brave new world where where where the schools become the parent.

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Speaker 4: I think one of the problems, and one of the

702
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Speaker 4: issues is and I'll say you know, I think I

703
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Speaker 4: think folks that go into teaching love children, that they

704
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Speaker 4: want to do the right thing. But we've lost humility.

705
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Speaker 4: We've lost the sense of our job is to teach

706
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Speaker 4: and it stops there. We've lost the humility to say

707
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Speaker 4: we are not the all. Yes, we've lost the humility

708
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Speaker 4: to say we need to respect parents in this right

709
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Speaker 4: because they were the parents. They are the primary educator

710
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Speaker 4: and caregiver and moral teacher, and our job is to

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Speaker 4: support the parents by teaching math and writing in English.

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Speaker 1: The idea, the Hillary Clinton statement of it takes a

713
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Speaker 1: village to raise a child went to a different level.

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Speaker 1: She took that too, we want your child and it

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Speaker 1: needs to not be the family that was the scary thing.

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Speaker 3: That is scary.

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Speaker 4: And you know, let's let's start with family first, right right, Yes,

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Speaker 4: you know, and if you look at all the studies

719
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Speaker 4: the family, a family structure is the most important thing

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Speaker 4: for a child, and the schools cannot replace that. And

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Speaker 4: having health clinics, you know, having the schools control a

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Speaker 4: child's healthcare cannot replace them.

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Speaker 1: So I want to jump quickly to the unions because

724
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Speaker 1: that's something that I'm sure you dealt with heavily. That's

725
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Speaker 1: something that Donald Trump when he was on the campaign trail,

726
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Speaker 1: he was talking to the union's quite a bit. The

727
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: interesting thing is, I just want to know, Donald Trump

728
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 1: just announced that he's going to bring new fighter jets

729
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: to Selfridge Air Force Base that there were We're going

730
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Speaker 1: to make sure that that continues in the state of Michigan.

731
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden had that opportunity. He flew into that base

732
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Speaker 1: just to go walk the picket line with the UAW,

733
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Speaker 1: But the auto workers didn't actually come out and vote

734
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Speaker 1: for him. The UAW the leaders were not fans of

735
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Speaker 1: President Trump when he was running. Suddenly they're changing their tune.

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Speaker 1: They kind of like the terror of situation.

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Speaker 4: Well, they're changing their tune because as their members are

738
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Speaker 4: changing their.

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Speaker 1: Toom, let's so they should listen to their.

740
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Speaker 4: Per and they need to listen to their members or

741
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Speaker 4: they can be voted out.

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Speaker 3: You know. Look, I mean the.

743
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Speaker 4: Problem is that the union leadership, the afl CIO leadership

744
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Speaker 4: in Washington is just a large extent in arm of

745
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Speaker 4: the Democratic Party. And you know the President Biden went

746
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Speaker 4: and who walked to took a line and all that,

747
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Speaker 4: and it was a political stunt, That's what it was.

748
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Speaker 4: Let's call it. It was a political stunt.

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Speaker 1: Of course it was good. It was a good picture

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Speaker 1: for someone who couldn't go go out and give a speech.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was a good picture for someone that

752
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Speaker 4: wanted to say, you're a union person, you should vote

753
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Speaker 4: for me, because I want to pick it line. But ultimately,

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Speaker 4: you know, if you've been around President Trump, you know

755
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Speaker 4: he you know, he grew up at construction sites, he

756
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 4: grew up talking to workers. He understands the worker. You know,

757
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Speaker 4: I'd like to sometimes say he's a billionaire that understands

758
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 4: more about most American workers than many millionaires do.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: You know, he could isolate himself, but he doesn't. I've

761
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Speaker 4: seen him go and give give talks. You know, I've

762
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Speaker 4: seen him go to a Vegas hotel to give a

763
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Speaker 4: speech and on the way he'll stop and he'll talk

764
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Speaker 4: to the restaurant workers. You know, he'll talk to the

765
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Speaker 4: guys in the elevator. He likes it. This is who

766
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Speaker 4: he is and you can't fake that, right and when

767
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Speaker 4: he goes. You know, I was with him when he

768
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Speaker 4: visited a caterpillar site. I think it was a caterpillar set.

769
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Speaker 4: There are a bunch of caterpillar tractors there. The men

770
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Speaker 4: and women sense that. They scent how much he likes

771
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Speaker 4: talking to the workers, and he cares about the workers.

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Speaker 4: And that translates for the UAW and for Michigan in

773
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Speaker 4: that he wants cars made right here in America.

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Speaker 3: You know, if he was here, he.

775
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Speaker 4: Said, those big, beautiful cars made right here, you know,

776
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Speaker 4: with American hands. And he gets that, why did we

777
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 4: send them out? You know, we're making them abroad, not

778
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Speaker 4: because we can't make them here, but because the regulations

779
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Speaker 4: make it so hard and expensive to make them here.

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Speaker 4: We're talking inside about how we will mine or in

781
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Speaker 4: the United States, you know, because of environmental regulations, we

782
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Speaker 4: can't process it here, so We'll put it on a

783
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Speaker 4: boat that uses a lot of oil to ship it

784
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Speaker 4: to China, to process it in a factory in China

785
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Speaker 4: that is certainly not a green factory to the world

786
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Speaker 4: in the same world. Right to then put it on

787
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Speaker 4: another boat to ship it right back to the United States?

788
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Speaker 3: Is process steel? Right?

789
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Speaker 4: Is that really green? Are we really helping the environment?

790
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Speaker 4: Are we just pushing jobs out of America?

791
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Speaker 1: Right? And then that's the thing, like I said, that

792
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Speaker 1: people can't they can't break that down in their heads.

793
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Speaker 1: But you said something I have not thought about this

794
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Speaker 1: in two years. There is truly a difference between Donald

795
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: Trump as a leader and as a business owner than

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Speaker 1: other people. And I come from like I said, we

797
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 1: had a foundry and I was on the shop floor

798
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Speaker 1: every day because it was you know, my job was

799
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Speaker 1: to communicate between the customers and the shop floor. I

800
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Speaker 1: had to be down there. I had to be helping

801
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Speaker 1: to move parts. You know, I was interacting every single day.

802
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: I met an owner of a company when I was campaigning.

803
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Speaker 1: You know, you meet with all these people who are

804
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: interested in he's the governor. Then he looked at me

805
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: and he said, I go to my factories once a

806
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Speaker 1: month and I walk on the shop floor and all

807
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 1: the people look at me and they feel so good

808
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: to think that I'm willing to step out on the

809
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Speaker 1: shop floor. And I was like, no, they don't that

810
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Speaker 1: because that attitude is so different than Donald Trump. And

811
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Speaker 1: I think that is what people see you, right, And

812
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Speaker 1: I've never really put my finger on it, but that

813
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: is what when they see President Trump, they know he

814
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: actually cares when you're around him, if you are with

815
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Speaker 1: him in person, you see it. That was the key

816
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Speaker 1: to him being successful was continuing to go back and

817
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Speaker 1: in his.

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Speaker 4: Heart, he's not a politician. In his heart, he's not

819
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Speaker 4: someone that went up through the elected system. In his heart,

820
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Speaker 4: he's a businessman that knows that the folks that worked

821
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Speaker 4: for him, that built his buildings actually built them. Yes,

822
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Speaker 4: And he gets that and it translates into how he relates,

823
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Speaker 4: and it translates into how he thinks.

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Speaker 3: And that's why, at the end of the day, so.

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Speaker 4: Many men and women, you know, even though the union

826
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Speaker 4: leadership did not endorse President Trump, so many men and

827
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Speaker 4: women of labor actually voted for him because they know

828
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Speaker 4: he will have their back.

829
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Speaker 1: So give us a prediction before you go of what

830
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Speaker 1: happens in this presidential term, and how does that change

831
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Speaker 1: the country Because we're seeing him with a lot of

832
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Speaker 1: executive actions. We're seeing him lowering costs and taking out regulations.

833
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Speaker 1: But can we get the Congress on board to make

834
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Speaker 1: that permanent?

835
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Speaker 4: So I think the Congress will come on board. I

836
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 4: think we're going to see. You know, we don't talk

837
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Speaker 4: nearly enough about the upcoming tax build and how important

838
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Speaker 4: it is to make those tax cuts permanent because the

839
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Speaker 4: last thing we need now is the tax is going

840
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Speaker 4: up because the tax cuts weren't made permanent, right, and

841
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 4: so we desperately need that.

842
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 3: I think you're going to see that happen. You know.

843
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 4: I think the biggest challenge right now that we have

844
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 4: is the economy is shifting, right. We see this in

845
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 4: the jobs numbers where we started. You know, so far

846
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 4: this year we've already created more private sector jobs than

847
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 4: all of last year combined. That's crazy, which is great news, right,

848
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 4: But you see that shift away from you know, a

849
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Speaker 4: lot of the other jobs, away from the government, jobs,

850
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Speaker 4: away from the government adjacent jobs, and that creates disruption,

851
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 4: and the tariffs create disruption, and you're starting to see

852
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Speaker 4: that a little bit in the GDP numbers, and there's

853
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Speaker 4: pushback on that, and we just need to realize we're

854
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Speaker 4: going through a transition and we need a little bit

855
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Speaker 4: of patience. And I think once it's done, you're going

856
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 4: to see the economy boom because these small business jobs

857
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Speaker 4: that have been created are the ones that last and

858
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Speaker 4: the ones that are right there in your community. They're

859
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Speaker 4: not the ones that get shipped overseas.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting because there is a lot of pushback right now,

861
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Speaker 1: and I think there's a lot of fear surrounding some

862
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Speaker 1: of these news reports that like, oh, this is crazy,

863
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: the stock market's fluctuating, this is a problem, but you

864
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Speaker 1: see a positive out But.

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Speaker 4: Look, I'm just looking at the data. We've created more

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Speaker 4: private sector jobs.

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Speaker 1: You know, like the science.

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Speaker 3: It's a science, you know, it's not the science.

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Speaker 4: It's it's just numbers, right, I'm not it's not opinion.

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Speaker 4: The bottom line is one hundred and seventy thousand, seventy

871
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Speaker 4: seven thousand new jobs. And for the first time in

872
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Speaker 4: a long time, you know, government jobs weren't a big

873
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Speaker 4: chunk of that. It was a really small chunk and

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Speaker 4: that's good for all.

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Speaker 1: Of us in the log I love it well. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much, Secretary alex Acosta. I appreciate having you on.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate your time.

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