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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Ryan Warmley, joined on this Friday morning by debro and

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Speaker 1: by fits. It's Derek Brown and Pat fitz Morris. I'm

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Speaker 1: just using their nicknames. Deever, how are you feeling on

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Speaker 1: this Friday morning?

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Speaker 2: Oh good man, it was a good Thursday night. I

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Speaker 2: know a lot of Patriots fans are not happy, but

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Speaker 2: I went five and one in betting, so I mean

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Speaker 2: there are things to complain about.

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Speaker 3: My Wallett is not one of them this morning.

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Speaker 1: Fitz, you've watched a lot of vintage Aaron Rodgers in

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Speaker 1: your day. Did you feel like we were getting back

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Speaker 1: to that last night?

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Speaker 4: He looked pretty good. He even looked a little nimble

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Speaker 4: on a couple of runs. So that was nice to

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Speaker 4: see because I thought he looked kind of a mobile

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Speaker 4: in week week one, like maybe this was going to

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Speaker 4: be a concern. But no, he did look pretty good.

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Speaker 4: So good for Jets fans. They had a rough twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty three. They deserve something like this.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how long it lasts. Knowing the way Jets

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Speaker 1: fans typically have to suffer, it might not last too long,

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Speaker 1: but for now, it did look very good here to

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Speaker 1: kick off week three. This is our Friday Show four

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Speaker 1: Week three. It's our key Question show. We're going to

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Speaker 1: be going through our ten biggest questions on the Week

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Speaker 1: three slate and trying to answer them and seeing what

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Speaker 1: we think and what we expect out of this week

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Speaker 1: of fantasy football. Hard to believe it's already Week three,

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Speaker 1: it really does. The end season stuff does move very quickly.

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Speaker 1: Quick reminder for everybody. Our Week three consensus rankings and

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Speaker 1: tiers can be found at fantasypros dot com slash rankings,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to remind everybody if you're juggling

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Speaker 1: My Playbook app. Now, before we dive into this week's

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Speaker 1: key questions. Let's check in with Colin Coward and his

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Speaker 1: over underpicks in our weekly challenge. Time now for the

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Speaker 1: Week three Over Under Challenge, We're chatting with Colin Coward.

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Speaker 1: As always, this weekly segment is presented by DraftKings. Colin,

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Speaker 1: we went seven out of ten in week one, dropped

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Speaker 1: a bit to six out of ten in week two,

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Speaker 1: but still a record of thirteen and seven so far

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Speaker 1: on the young season. It's actually in the top ten

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Speaker 1: percent of all of our participants so far, so we

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Speaker 1: are starting off hot for sure. We will try to

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Speaker 1: keep to our winning ways here going in Week three.

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Speaker 1: As a reminder, our listeners can play along this season

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Speaker 1: at fantasypros dot com Slash Challenge. Colin will dive right

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Speaker 1: into a few of the players in this week's challenge,

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Speaker 1: starting as always with the quarterbacks. Derek Carr stunningly, shockingly,

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Speaker 1: jaw droppingly in the top three in quarterback scoring on

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Speaker 1: DraftKings so far this season. Clint Kubiak is changing things

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Speaker 1: up both statistically and just the vibes for the Saints

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Speaker 5: Well, I will say that this is the Shanahan offense

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Speaker 5: and it's working throughout the league. I do think they

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Speaker 5: cool off a little. I mean, at some point, you know,

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Speaker 5: trees don't grow to the sky, as stock market pickers say, like,

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Speaker 5: you just don't play this well forever. But I don't

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Speaker 5: think it's a mirage. I think they've added speed on

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Speaker 5: This is a coordinator story. Derek Carr is comfortable and protected.

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Speaker 5: I think he remains and does anybody really like Philadelphia's

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Speaker 5: But I don't think this is a mirage. I think.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned folks not really believing the Eagles defense. The

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Speaker 5: So that last drive was a layup drill for Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. So we'll see. We'll see if

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Speaker 1: the Saints keep this up. Another quarterback we wanted to

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Speaker 1: hit on Lamar Jackson at Dallas. He's up at twenty

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. Actually ISAA Ravens fan personally, I'm a bit

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Speaker 5: They I believe they lead the NFL in yards. They're

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Speaker 5: a toe away from beating Kansas City and Arrowhead. This

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Speaker 5: I like Lamar in big spot if you take out

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Speaker 5: the Kansas City Chiefs. He has a nineteen and fourteen

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Speaker 5: record against playoff teams in his career. Now that includes

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Speaker 5: I think I'd be a little concerned. It would probably

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Speaker 5: be a stay away game for me. I've always had

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Speaker 5: this theory that when a talented team at home is humiliated,

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Speaker 5: they tend to really play well the next week. That

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Speaker 5: would stay away from Lamar this week. They'll be spots

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Speaker 5: better used. I think i'd stay away this week with Lamar.

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Speaker 5: I worry too about Micah Parsons and that defense rising.

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Speaker 1: Up a little. Let's get to the running backs. You

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Speaker 1: He's up at thirty four and a half Fantasy points

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Speaker 1: He's number one fantasy running back on DraftKings by a mile,

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Speaker 1: already talked about Derek Carr. Do you think the running

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Speaker 5: No, because I think I will say this is where

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Speaker 5: I think the Saints slow down, So the Eagles back end.

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Speaker 5: You have to make choices against the Saints, right, you

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Speaker 5: have to pick something to stop in Shanahan's offense. And

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Speaker 5: I think if I was Philadelphia on a short week,

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Speaker 5: I think Philadelphia's entire game plan is we have got

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Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs is another running back in this week's challenge,

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Speaker 1: Did you see anything out of this offense that makes

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Speaker 1: But do you expect really big usage from Jacobs? Again,

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Speaker 5: I see usage, but not production. Tennessee's defense is really good.

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Speaker 5: It's a really really good defense. And with Jordan Love playing,

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Speaker 5: I believe he practiced this week, They're gonna limit his exposure.

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Speaker 5: Bay they've got tremendous off remps of weapons. But this

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Speaker 5: And my guess is, if it's Willis playing, they're gonna

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Speaker 5: Josh Jacobs. I question how effective he'll be. I see

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Speaker 5: I feel like a downer this week. I think offenses,

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Speaker 5: I think some of these red hot teams come back

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Speaker 1: You've been a bit of a downer, you know, in

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Speaker 1: the last couple of games. I'm curiously if we will

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Speaker 1: be for this next matchup, James Connor against the Lions.

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Speaker 1: I love this Cardinals Lions game. I am so excited

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Speaker 1: to watch up. It is my favorite matchup of the week.

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Speaker 1: James Connor has over twenty fantasy points per game on

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Speaker 1: DraftKings this season. They do project Detroit to be the

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Speaker 1: number one rushing defense for Week three. What do you

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Speaker 5: I think he's going to succeed. I think Marvin Harrison

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Speaker 5: have to make choices. You're gonna play spy defense with

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Speaker 5: Kyler Murray, you may Detroit may roll over coverage with Harrison.

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Speaker 5: You have to take McBride seriously, and these weapons aren't

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Speaker 5: Excellent player, So I think Arizona. I think when you

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Speaker 5: have a generationally elusive quarterback, with a top tight end,

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Speaker 5: with an emerging star at wide receiver, it's made for

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Speaker 5: going to have a pro Bowl level season.

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Speaker 1: On the other side, you we'll go to the wide

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Speaker 1: and Ross Saint Brown against the Cardinals. Saint Brown just

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Speaker 1: fifteen Fantasy points per game so far this season, outside

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Speaker 1: the top twenty, surprisingly from where he was being drafted.

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Speaker 1: To play well. Those are our favorite picks for Week three.

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Speaker 1: biggest questions here for Week three, starting off with Texans

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Speaker 1: Will week three against the Vikings be more of a

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Speaker 1: Do you think the squeaky wheel game could comfort for

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not surprised that he's playing really well.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to our next game here, Bears at Colts.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson's completion percentage through two games is below fifty percent.

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Speaker 1: The possibility for a big play is always there, of course,

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Speaker 1: but do we have to sit Colts pass catchers mainly

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Speaker 4: So I have Pittman ranked wide receiver twenty seven this week,

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Speaker 4: good news for Pittman investors, if the Colts are going

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Speaker 1: Dee Bro, what do you think about the Colts pass

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Speaker 2: I think it's two games, and I think if any

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Speaker 1: But by the way, just because Fits brought it up

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Speaker 3: They didn't do anything there. So I'm not in on

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Speaker 2: I think if DeAndre Swift keeps stinking it up, Khalil

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Speaker 3: Of the weeds emerge this week.

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Speaker 2: I think Caleb Williams could have a little bit of

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Speaker 1: He questioned Malik Neighbors and Marvin Harrison Junior both really

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Speaker 1: the Browns or Harrison at home against the Lions. De Bros.

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Speaker 3: Start with you here, Marvin Rison Junior.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the matchup as well as I mean

435
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Speaker 2: as well as you want to talk about quarterback play.

436
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Speaker 3: Either way, I'm.

437
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Speaker 2: Not saying I'm fading elite Neighbors, but we just got

438
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Speaker 2: to talk. You know, mention what it is. It's an

439
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 2: uphill battle. I mean, you've got Daniel Jones gonna hold

440
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 2: him down this week as well as the outside corners

441
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Speaker 2: for Cleveland are good. So for me, it's Marvin Rison Junior.

442
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Speaker 2: And yes, he was absolutely fantastic in week two. I mean,

443
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Speaker 2: good lord man, a thirty eight percent target chare. He

444
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Speaker 2: had almost seventy percent of the freaking area yards. Yeah,

445
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Speaker 2: I've got Marvin Arson Junior right now ranked as a

446
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Speaker 2: wide receiver one. Milik Neighbors I have as wide receiver

447
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Speaker 2: twenty on the week, and I actually think I need

448
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 2: to probably drop him just a little bit more, probably

449
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Speaker 2: wide receiver twenty four.

450
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Speaker 1: Fit's what do you think about these two rookies for

451
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Speaker 1: this week?

452
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Speaker 4: I'm running counter to Debro and counter to ECR here.

453
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Speaker 4: I've got Milak Neighbors ranked wide receiver sixteen and Marvin

454
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Speaker 4: Harrison ranked wide receiver seventeen. Way below consensus on Marvin.

455
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Speaker 4: And it's not that I don't like Marvin, but thirty

456
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Speaker 4: eight percent target share, Debro, I mean Milik Neighbors sixty

457
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 4: four percent target share last week.

458
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Speaker 3: We're comparing size here, man, Yeah he is, he is.

459
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Speaker 4: Already that the star attraction in Brian Dables' offense and

460
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Speaker 4: Harrison is great, but is target share is twenty one

461
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Speaker 4: percent for the season. That's fine. You can be a

462
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Speaker 4: star with the target shair between twenty and twenty five percent.

463
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Speaker 4: And I know I'm way below consensus on Harrison was

464
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Speaker 4: last week, and I got burned in the rankings for that.

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Speaker 4: I think the difference here is that Harrison is just

466
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Speaker 4: one component in a healthy and robust Arizona Cardinals offense.

467
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Speaker 4: He is the scrambled eggs in a nutritious, well balanced breakfast.

468
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Speaker 4: Malik Neighbors is the breakfast burrito. Like, He's the entire

469
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Speaker 4: breakfast in one delicious package. So like, I just think

470
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Speaker 4: he's more essential to his offense than Harrison is to

471
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Speaker 4: his breakfast.

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Speaker 1: Burritos are elite. Oh you're selling me on, Neighbors.

473
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Speaker 3: I'm hungry now, good lord, I'm recording this in the morning.

474
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Speaker 3: I haven't had breakfast.

475
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Speaker 4: Now, I bet gotta you gotta go to Torchi.

476
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Pat, I got real quickly your

477
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 2: perfect idea of your perfect breakfast burrito.

478
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Speaker 3: What is in that burrito? I need to know?

479
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 4: Uh, scrambled eggs, Theresa Pepper's cheese. I'm good with that

480
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Speaker 4: some sort of.

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Speaker 3: Pat wins today.

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Speaker 1: That one's yes, I've actually got right now in the

483
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Speaker 1: fridge and I will be eating it after we finished

484
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Speaker 1: recording this. My dad makes these amazing like seafood breakfast enchiladas.

485
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Speaker 1: It's got like shrimp and crab meat and eggs and

486
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Speaker 1: bacon and chilada sauce and cheese. And you know, when

487
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Speaker 1: I moved out, he like taught me how to make

488
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Speaker 1: them because they were like my favorite food used to make.

489
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Speaker 1: But whenever you make them, you make like fifteen of

490
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Speaker 1: them and they're huge. So I have them for like

491
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Speaker 1: two weeks. It's just one every morning, and I've got

492
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Speaker 1: a couple left in the fridge currently that I'm very

493
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Speaker 1: excited about as well. Back to the.

494
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Speaker 4: Act Bacon with you had me at bacon with seafood, Man, It's.

495
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Speaker 3: It's like fits and chorizo. That's the one. I want

496
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Speaker 3: to breakfast burritos.

497
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Speaker 1: If I'm doing with breakfast burrito, I keep it simple.

498
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Speaker 1: I'm just baking egg and cheese with some hot sauce

499
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Speaker 1: like and I'm good. I'm a happy camper. Yeah, just

500
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Speaker 1: before we move out this this these two games really

501
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Speaker 1: if Molik neighbors if the Giants are facing a team

502
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Speaker 1: other than the Browns, like a team that is not

503
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Speaker 1: this like scary defense that we're thinking about, would he

504
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Speaker 1: be in the wide receiver one range, because it feels

505
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Speaker 1: like from what we saw last week, like he really

506
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Speaker 1: should be considered generally in that top twelve, which is

507
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Speaker 1: like what we talked about in the draft season. We

508
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Speaker 1: were like, this is the cheapest Milikue Neighbors will ever be.

509
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Speaker 1: He's going to get all the targets. Like it played

510
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Speaker 1: out exactly like our optimistic views predicted it might play out,

511
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Speaker 1: at least in week two. So if he was facing

512
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Speaker 1: like the league average defense, like whoever's sixteenth in the

513
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Speaker 1: league in defense that we think, would he be ranked

514
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Speaker 1: up in that in the top.

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Speaker 3: Twelve Debro, Yeah, he would be.

516
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Speaker 2: If it was an average to below average defense, I

517
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Speaker 2: think he the floor is top fifteen and probably put

518
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Speaker 2: respect on his name, probably as as a wide receiver one.

519
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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and Fit's obviously it's not an average defense

520
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Speaker 1: that it's going against. But I just wanted to kind

521
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Speaker 1: of highlight that he has kind of, at least in

522
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Speaker 1: my opinion, earned the right to be ranked higher. This

523
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: is just a particularly tough matchup.

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Speaker 4: For sure, and I think both Molikue Neighbors and Marvin

525
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Speaker 4: Harrison Junior are going to be first round Fantasy draft

526
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Speaker 4: picks in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Agree with Thattal, I totally agree as well. We're consensus

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Speaker 1: across the board. Let's go to the next game here,

529
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Speaker 1: Packers at Titans. Maybe not the most intriguing matchup, assuming

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Speaker 1: it's Milk Willis again. As of right now, I guess

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Speaker 1: they're still leaving open up the possibility it could be

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love. I'm still kind of operating under the assumption

533
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Speaker 1: it won't be. Maybe that's pessimistic. I just can't see

534
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Speaker 1: how it would be, how that would be smart. But

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Speaker 1: I went to highlight this game just basically the insane

536
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Speaker 1: usage we saw from Josh Jacobs in Week two. So

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Speaker 1: fitz Oski is the Packers guy. Did we learn anything

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Speaker 1: from Milik Willis's first start in Green Bay about how

539
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Speaker 1: to approach the Packers in fantasy? As long as Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love is not playing.

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Speaker 4: If it is Malik Willis again, I think you have

542
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Speaker 4: to sit all of the Green Bay pass catchers with

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Speaker 4: the possible exception of Jaden Reid, just because they are

544
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Speaker 4: fond of manufacturing easy touches for him with little wide

545
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Speaker 4: receiver screens reverses. Reid had two catches for nine yards

546
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Speaker 4: and two rushes for thirty seven yards last week against

547
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Speaker 4: the Cults, Willis only had fourteen pass attempts in that game.

548
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 4: They're they're trying to hide him, and to his credit,

549
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,239
Speaker 4: he was efficient twelve completions one hundred and twenty two

550
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Speaker 4: yards in a touchdown. But even with the high efficiency,

551
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Speaker 4: the passing output just isn't enough to feed a family.

552
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Speaker 4: So yeah, like, you can't start Christian Watson yet. And

553
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Speaker 4: it's tough because I know some people are going to

554
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 4: need a show me game from Christian Watson before they're

555
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Speaker 4: comfortable putting him back in the lineup. So they're gonna

556
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Speaker 4: have to wait till Jordan Love has that you know,

557
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 4: feeds Christian Watson and helps him get that show me game.

558
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Speaker 4: It will be interesting. And I'm with you, Wherma, I

559
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Speaker 4: do think we most likely don't get Jordan Love this week.

560
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Speaker 4: The Packers have been one of the most cautious teams

561
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Speaker 4: in the league about bringing back injured players, and this

562
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Speaker 4: obviously isn't just any injured player, it's their franchise quarterback.

563
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Speaker 4: They have a game against the undefeated Minnesota Vikings in

564
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Speaker 4: Week four that's gonna be a pretty big divisional showdown.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they want to push it.

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Speaker 1: Dee Bro, what do you think? And can we expect

567
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: another you know, sixty carr I know as a sixty

568
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: carries but ridiculous usage for Josh Jacobs again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're gonna get twenty five plus carries

570
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Speaker 2: for Jacobs this week. And I'm with I'm with Fitzy

571
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Speaker 2: on this one. The media is pushing this extremely hard.

572
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 2: Jordan Love is not playing this week. Anybody that's watched

573
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: the practice footage like he's not moving around good enough

574
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Speaker 2: to play quarterback and not only just like to be

575
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: functional on the offense, but to keep himself upright, you know,

576
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 2: to do what he needs to do to avoid tacklers

577
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,959
Speaker 2: and stuff. So I think Malik Willson is definitely going

578
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 2: to start. I think it's smoking mirrors and I think

579
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: it's a ton of work for Josh Jacobs. Yet again,

580
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: you could run on the Titans. The strength of that

581
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: defense is their secondary and I think Green Bay is

582
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Speaker 2: going to stay away from it. And I'm pretty much

583
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Speaker 2: with Fitzi here, except I'll I'll push back just.

584
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Speaker 3: A little bit.

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Speaker 2: I'm not starting any Green Bay Packers pass catcher. Like

586
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: to FITs' point, it's not enough passing volume, and you

587
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: want to talk about like only fourteen pass attempts. That

588
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: was a it's a good matchup of the secondary. We

589
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 2: just talked about how bad the Colts are as a

590
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 2: past defense. What are they gonna do when it's Tennessee,

591
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: And that past defense is even better than what they

592
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: faced last week the seven attempts eight.

593
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Speaker 3: It's bad.

594
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's funny because you know, Deebro and I

595
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 4: kind of spent the off season warning people that Matt

596
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 4: Lafleur really doesn't like to go to just one workhorse

597
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 4: running back, and then we get the runout we've had

598
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 4: with Marshaun Lloyd going on injured reserve and Jordan Love hurt,

599
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 4: and last week Josh Jacobs thirty two carries the most

600
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Speaker 4: by any Green Bay Packer running back in a single

601
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Speaker 4: game since Ryan Grant in two thousand and eight.

602
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Speaker 2: That's a stat pole right there, Josh Jacobs going full

603
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 2: Dereck Henry mode.

604
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean he's Jacob's is somebody that I

605
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Speaker 1: at cost was fading during draft season, and obviously the

606
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: EU signe has just been way more, way, way higher

607
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: than anticipated. Obviously from that stat All right, let's go

608
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: to the next game here, Eagles at Saints. My question

609
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: here is can Philly be the team to finally slow

610
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: down this Saints offense? They have been amazing. They have

611
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: scored every time that Derek Carr has been leading a drive.

612
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: It has been ridiculou They've been averaging over thirty points

613
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: a game in the first half of the games. One

614
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 1: of those games came against the Panthers, the other didn't.

615
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: Those it wasn't just beating up on Carolina. They looked

616
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Speaker 1: really good for both weeks of this season. Debro, do

617
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: you think the Eagles can be the team to finally

618
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: slow down the Saints? Or is this train going to

619
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: keep rolling?

620
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: Train is keep rolling down the truck baby, and they

621
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: are not slowing them down. I've actually been very disappointed

622
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 2: in the Philadelphia Eagles pass defense through two games. And

623
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Speaker 2: let's just put the stop for just a second and

624
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: put a little bit more respect on Derek Carr's name.

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Speaker 3: He is a QB two in Fantasy.

626
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: QB two in Fantasy he leads the NFL in yards

627
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: per attempt, passer rating CPOE, and fantasy points per dropback

628
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Speaker 2: as bonkers, like, there is no way, shape, form, or fashion.

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Speaker 2: And I think it was even a little bit pro

630
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: Derek car towards the end of the draft season and stuff.

631
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Speaker 2: Nobody could have told you this is what was gonna

632
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: happen in the first two weeks. And I don't think

633
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: Philly is gonna be able to stop them at all.

634
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Speaker 2: I mean, so far, the Philly pass defense has allowed

635
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: the seventh highest passing yards per game, seventh highest arts

636
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: per attempt, and oh guess what, they have.

637
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Speaker 3: No pass rush.

638
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: They legit have the seventh lowest pressure rate in the NFL.

639
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: So clean pockets, secondary not playing good. Let's go just

640
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: air it out. Saints put up some points.

641
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Speaker 1: Fitz, what do you think we're gonna get from the

642
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: SANTSU seek another forty burger?

643
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Speaker 4: I don't know about that, but yeah, Echoing Deebro's thoughts

644
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 4: on the Eagles, I mean, we just saw the Falcon

645
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 4: zip down field and no time lickety split at the

646
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Speaker 4: end of that game on Monday Night to score the

647
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 4: game winning touchdown against the Eagles pass defense, Like Quinjon

648
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 4: Mitchell might end up being a really good ATFL cornerback,

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Speaker 4: but he alone was not going to fix a secondary

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Speaker 4: just completely melted down over the second half of last season.

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Speaker 4: And right now, I mean that the Saints' offense is

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Speaker 4: hurtling down the Autubahn at one hundred and seventy miles

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Speaker 4: an hour like it debro hit on some of the stats. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: eleven point four yards per attempt for Derek Carr, and

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Speaker 4: yet he's only averaging what two hundred and twenty one

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Speaker 4: point five passing yards a game because he barely has

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Speaker 4: to throw. I mean, they're just going up three touchdowns

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Speaker 4: on opponents in the first half. Saints are averaging six

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Speaker 4: point eight yards per play on offense, cars completion percentage

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Speaker 4: seventy six point nine percent, Alvin Kamara fifty or excuse me,

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Speaker 4: five point seven yards per carry and already has five touchdowns,

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Speaker 4: and Rashid Shiheed averaging a tidy eighteen point eight yards

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Speaker 4: per target. Like this offense is just humming kudos to

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Speaker 4: Clint Kubiak. We know it's not going to be this

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Speaker 4: good all season long, but the Eagles do not look

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Speaker 4: like the team that's going to you know, throw up

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Speaker 4: the stop sign.

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Speaker 2: Them quick quick question, boys, do you think Clint Kubiak

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Speaker 2: gets a head coaching job next year?

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Speaker 3: Because I do. If this keeps happening, he's gonna get

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Speaker 3: some interviews.

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Speaker 1: I think he definitely will get interviews. I like that.

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Speaker 1: I think that is an absolute lock. The only reason

674
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Speaker 1: I would not say definitively gets like an actual coaching

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Speaker 1: job is just because we did see. Like obviously, Ben

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Speaker 1: Johnson's been there a couple of years. He decided to

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Speaker 1: say Bobby Slowick, didn't you know he interviewed, but then

678
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Speaker 1: didn't get that job right away. So maybe teams are

679
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Speaker 1: like being a little more patient and wanted to see

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Speaker 1: it for like one more year out of these young

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Speaker 1: hot shot coordinators. That's just speculative though, like I would,

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Speaker 1: I would my job would be on the floor if

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Speaker 1: he isn't getting multiple interviews at least if this keeps up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's early, but so far this offense looks great.

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Speaker 4: We know it's not gonna look this perfect all season long,

686
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Speaker 4: but so far it's just been a.

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Speaker 1: Really they're making every game look like Alabama against Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: fits Oh oh, my call the police has been a murder.

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Speaker 4: I think I think Alabama did better than six point

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Speaker 4: eight yards per play against the Baddress last week. But yes,

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Speaker 4: thank you.

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Speaker 1: What do you think do you think Kubiak is getting

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Speaker 1: a job after this season?

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 2: I think he's probably gonna. I think he's gonna get

696
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Speaker 2: a lot of interviews. And I think the thing about

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Speaker 2: what Slowick and Ben Jonson, both of them, it seemed

698
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Speaker 2: more like situations where they went back to their respective teams,

699
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Speaker 2: like they didn't want to be head coaches just yet.

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Speaker 2: So and I think it was both good moves for

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Speaker 2: both those coordinators. But I think I Kubiak's gonna do

702
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Speaker 2: interviews and stuff like that. I think he definitely can

703
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Speaker 2: get a job.

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Speaker 1: Is there a spot you'd most likely to see him? Oot?

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Speaker 2: So just off the time, No, let me see, I

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Speaker 2: was gonna say, I think Denver's the low hanging fruit.

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Speaker 2: I think that Sean I don't even know if Sean

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Speaker 2: book is hapless. I mean, it's it's looked rough so far,

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Speaker 1: The other one that I would like would be Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, question number six, Chargers at Steelers. It

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Speaker 1: is an unstoppable force JK. Dobbins against an unimmovable object

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Speaker 1: Steelers defense. Who wins, Debro.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be JK. Dobbins. He's gonna win. And Dude,

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Speaker 3: I just continue to be.

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Speaker 2: Floored by what he's doing right now. I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: the RB four in fantasy. That's just crazy, man. And

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Speaker 2: it's not just like, Okay, the offensive line is playing

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Speaker 2: extremely good for the Chargers. They are first in yards

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Speaker 2: before contact right now. But outside of that, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Dobbins is near the top in every tackle breaking metric

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Speaker 2: you look at. And it's not only those two factors,

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Speaker 2: but the Steelers run defense can be had. I mean

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Speaker 2: they're giving up the tenth highest miss tackle rate and

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Speaker 2: the thirteenth highest success rate to his own runs. And

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Speaker 2: Dobbins sixty three percent of his runs have been on

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Speaker 2: zone runs this year, so I think it's going to

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Speaker 2: be yet another matchup where Dobbins is going to end

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Speaker 2: up with ninety plus rushing yards.

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Speaker 1: This week, Fitz, we talked about a bit about Dobbins

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Speaker 1: on the Thursday show. For the folks who are just

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Speaker 1: listening to the Friday show, what do you expect from

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Speaker 1: him against Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: I'm dialing down expectations a little bit. I mean, he's

784
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Speaker 4: had more than one hundred and thirty rushing yards with

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Speaker 4: a touchdown in each of his first two games, but

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Speaker 4: he was going against the Raiders and the Panthers, not

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Speaker 4: exactly the stiffest competition, much tougher matchup on the road

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Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh, and Pittsburgh is tenth in DVOA, I believe

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Speaker 4: against the run in their two games so far, they

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Speaker 4: held Bejon Robinson the sixty eight rushing yards on eighteen

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Speaker 4: carries and Javonte Williams to seventeen yards on eleven carries.

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Speaker 4: Granted that the Denver offense is pretty broken right now,

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Speaker 4: but it is going to be tough for sledding for JK,

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Speaker 4: no question, it's gonna be a fun matchup, because Debro

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Speaker 4: said at the Chargers offensive line has been terrific so far.

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Speaker 4: Still very possible Dobbins has a good day, fascinating matchup.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to see it. But I am toning

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00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 4: down expectations a little bit for JK. Dobbins, and I

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Speaker 4: know Debro's not gonna like this. I do have DeAndre

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Speaker 4: Swift ranked ahead of JK. Dobbins on the matchup. Dude,

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Speaker 4: I mean like the Colts can't stop anyone man.

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00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 2: The Bears can't block anybody, Fitzy, they have.

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00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 4: A couple of gut The interior of the line has

804
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,959
Speaker 4: been a problem. I still think their tackles are okay,

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00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 4: at least in the running game, but yeah, they have

806
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 4: had issues. That's that's bad versus bad upfront the trenches

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00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 4: in that matchup. But yeah, we'll see this one's good

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Speaker 4: versus good. So maybe maybe that's the wrong call by me.

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Speaker 1: Whether or not it's correct. I echo Debro's disgust at

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Speaker 1: the thought of Swift being ranked ahead of Dobbins. Wrong

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Speaker 1: or right, But you know I've mentioned this on Thursday. Fits.

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Speaker 1: You know, Dobbins has faced the Steelers three times in

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Speaker 1: his career, and the series always are very good on defense,

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Speaker 1: so this isn't anything new that they're really good defensively

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Speaker 1: this year. In his three games, and you know this

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00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: one was in twenty twenty, the other two were in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. In three games, forty seven attempts three

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00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six yards. That's almost seven yards per

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Speaker 1: attempt and he has a touchdown there. The worst game

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00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: he's had has been seventeen for ninety three. The other

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00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: ones were fifteen four hundred and twenty in a touchdown

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Speaker 1: and fifteen four hundred and thirteen. So he has done

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00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: well against the Steelers in the past. He's with a

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00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: different team, it was a couple of years ago. I

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00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: get that, but just highlighting that he has it went

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Speaker 1: healthy and he certainly looks healthy at least through two weeks,

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Speaker 1: he's been able to do damage against this defense before.

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Speaker 1: Where are you ranking him, Deebro? Did you say, what? What?

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Speaker 1: Where is he for?

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Speaker 2: I've got him at RB sixteen and considering what he's

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Speaker 2: been doing, it could be a slight to him.

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Speaker 3: But I think like mid to high end RB two.

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Speaker 1: And then fits you're down like back at like low

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Speaker 1: end RB two right.

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Speaker 4: I think high end RB three right now, and maybe

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Speaker 4: that's a mistake because they are gonna need to give

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Speaker 4: him heavy volume like they have to keep TJ. Watt

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Speaker 4: off justin Herbert. Joe Alt has played great so far,

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Speaker 4: but TJ. Watt is still gonna be a stern test

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Speaker 4: for Joe Alt. So I think they're gonna want to

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Speaker 4: run the ball often, and I don't think you need

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Speaker 4: to talk Greg Roman into running the ball that way.

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Speaker 1: In ECR. He's much closer to fits by the way,

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Speaker 1: he's RB twenty three in in halfvpr ECR. So most

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Speaker 1: of the industry is a little down again, likely given

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Speaker 1: the matchup, let's go to kind of the reverse of this.

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Speaker 1: A very stoppable force the Raiders run game versus is

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Speaker 1: a very movable object to the Panthers defense. Who loses

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Speaker 1: in this one.

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Speaker 3: Debro Panthers run defense.

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Speaker 2: I think looking at just the matchup, and I know

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Speaker 2: it's been bad for Zamir White. I'm not going to

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00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: shy away from then. I told people to draft him

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00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: in the off season and chasing the ballume and stuff.

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00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 2: Antonio Pierce has still come out and been very adamant

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Speaker 2: about getting Zamir White twenty carries. I think that, and

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Speaker 2: this has been a Raiders offense that has been extremely

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Speaker 2: pass heavy. Didn't see that coming, but I do think

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Speaker 2: that they are going to want to run the ball

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Speaker 2: in this matchup. And I know Zamir has not been good,

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Speaker 2: but this matchup is fantastic. I mean, Carolina Panthers are

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Speaker 2: given him the fourth highest rushing success rate and the

863
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: second most rushing yards per game. So if there's ever

864
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: a week to start Samir White, it's Week three. I've

865
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 2: got him as RB twenty four right now in my ranks.

866
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think fits? I mean, we've talked

867
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: a lot about how the Panthers are just kind of

868
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: like an auto start team against them with your running backs.

869
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: But Zamir White has been bad. I mean I've bean

870
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: watching that Ravens game. He was abysmal. So do you

871
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: think that this is kind of his breakout came for

872
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: the managers who invested in him.

873
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 4: You have to hope because if he does not have

874
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 4: a decent fantasy day this week, I think we're going

875
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 4: to see Zamir White dropped in a lot of leagues

876
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 4: next week. But he's going against a defense that has

877
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 4: allowed three hundred and ninety nine rushing yards and three

878
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 4: touchdown runs so far, and they don't have our friend

879
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 4: Derek Brown at defensive tackle. I know defensive tackle Ashn

880
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 4: Robinson was banged up for them. Not sure what his

881
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 4: status is. I think he came back to practice, but

882
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 4: it's still a bad run defense. And yeah, Antonio Peers

883
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 4: for whatever reason, the twenty carry mark is a magic

884
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 4: number for him, and it seems like this is the

885
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 4: kind of game where the game script's going to be

886
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 4: favorable with the Raiders at home. You know, if they

887
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 4: don't win comfortably, they should at least be in a

888
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 4: close game and be able to run the ball quite

889
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 4: a bit. So yeah, I mean, as good as that

890
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 4: passing game has been with DeVante Adams and brock Bauers

891
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 4: and Gardner Minshew's averaging like over two hundred and sixty

892
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 4: passing yards a game, this does seem like a game

893
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 4: where the Raiders are going to want to get the

894
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 4: running game going.

895
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 2: To Fitzi's point, Shy tuttle foot injury hasn't practiced one

896
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 2: of their d tackles, Ashawn Robinson DMP on Wednesday came

897
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: back to a limited session with any issue on Thursday.

898
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: Sameer White is RB twenty four in ECR right now.

899
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: That's actually gotten up a couple of days since the

900
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: start of the week, so he's into back end RB

901
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: two territory according to the experts. Let's go to Dolphins

902
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: at Seahawks. This question is really obvious. How low in

903
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: the rankings are we planning to drop Dolphins players with

904
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: Skyler Thompson at quarterback? Obviously Tua is now on IR

905
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: so he's going to miss a chunk of time possibly

906
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. They're talking about it like

907
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: it's not going to be the case, but we'll see

908
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: how this thing develops. But with Skyler Thompson there, how

909
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: are we ranking the Dolphins players?

910
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: Debro, I still got eight Chan as an RB one.

911
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't shy away from the volume that

912
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: he got last week.

913
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: There's no way.

914
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 2: I hope that that type of volume doesn't continue. But

915
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 2: even twenty touches for devon a Chan, regardless of whoever,

916
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: even if it was me back there playing quarter is

917
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: still very valuable in fantasy. Tyreek Hill, I'm gonna have

918
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 2: him somewhere as a mid range wide receiver two and

919
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 2: Jim and Wattle is a low end two to high

920
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: end wide receiver three. I just I don't have any

921
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: faith in Skyer Thompson, and I know that those rankings.

922
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be watching ECR and where they are the

923
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 2: entire weekend because I want to be very cognizant of that,

924
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 2: because I understand with both of those players, with Waddle

925
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: and Tyreek, it could take one play, one play and

926
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: they house one screen pass and take it to the house.

927
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: They have that type of upside. I've also seen sky

928
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: or Thompson play football in the NFL and it has

929
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: not been pretty, and I don't think that that changes

930
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: in Seattle. I know where we have questions about how

931
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: good is their defense. I know the run defense is

932
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 2: not very good. Their secondary is nasty man like Drek

933
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: willand Devon Witherspoon Lake. Those are players you do not

934
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 2: want to mess with. So I'm a little more tepid.

935
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 2: I think I'm tipid, although I don't know where Tyreek

936
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: Hill and Wadle are in ECR right now.

937
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: I talked about this with ericson a bit on our

938
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: TikTok Live earlier this week. How if you remember the

939
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: probably the worst defensive game Mike McDonald had in Baltimore

940
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: was against the Dolphins. Now Tua was healthy for that game,

941
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: which is a big difference, but that was early on

942
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: in the season. It was early on in his first

943
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: season as defensive coordinator in Baltimore, and his defense is

944
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: complicated enough that there can be breakdowns, particularly in the

945
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: secondary when they're still trying to gel and kind of

946
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: really learn this thing. It was really the second half

947
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: of year one and all of year two in Baltimore

948
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: that his defense became this elite war machine that nobody

949
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: could score against. Early on it was a different story.

950
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: And then that Dolphins game, of course, I think they

951
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: scored like three or four touchdowns in the fourth quarter alone.

952
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: Like it was a ridiculous one of the most fun

953
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: games of the season, and the Dolphins came out on top.

954
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: So that's in the back of my mind that you know,

955
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: if you're making a list of wide receivers who are

956
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: quarterback proof, Tyrek kill is probably like the first or

957
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: set maybe second at worst name that you're you're listing

958
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: it is Skyler Thompson, though like it's not it's not

959
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: like you're dropping to, you know, a Jacoby Brissett or yeah,

960
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: or even like a Sam Howell. It's it's somebody that

961
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: we have very little even Tyler Huntley. I mean you're

962
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: exactly correct, Like even Tyler Huntley, you would have more

963
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: faith than Scott and you know, no knock on Thompson,

964
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: like I hope he proves is wrong. That would be

965
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: really fun. But I totally get the pessimism. It's hard

966
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: for me to shake the idea of what Tyreek did

967
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: to McDonald's defense in Baltimore. Different. Yeah, you know again,

968
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,479
Speaker 1: it's a different team. I'm not saying that it means

969
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: we're going to see a repeat fits. What are you

970
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: doing with with trying to rank these guys, but both

971
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: Tyreek and Waddell and also a champ.

972
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 4: First of all, I'm trying to stop my head from

973
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 4: spinning because we have the play calling battle between Mike

974
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 4: McDaniel and Mike McDonald's that's gonna get a little complicated

975
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 4: this week. But so first of all, come on, man,

976
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 4: Tyler Huntley, like he is totally new to the Dolphins system.

977
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 4: The one reason I'm kind of holding out hope for

978
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill who have wide receiver seven and Jalen Waddle

979
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 4: who have wide receiver twenty six. I know that's optimistic,

980
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 4: but like this is Skyler Thompson's third year in Mike

981
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 4: McDaniel's system, Like he came in the same year Mike

982
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 4: McDaniel came in. So granted, Mike McDaniel might not be

983
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 4: using every page of the playbook this week with Skyler Thompson.

984
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 4: You know, I think he will try to simplify things

985
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 4: a little bit. But maybe Hill and Waddle don't see

986
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 4: some of those high value downfield targets we like them seeing.

987
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 4: But if Skyler Thompson can just hit like slant, you know,

988
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 4: these are two dudes who can take a slant for

989
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 4: eighty yards and a touchdown. So I guess that's the

990
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 4: hope here, that you know, two guys with like elite

991
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 4: big play speed get the chance to utilize that speed.

992
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 4: But Debro is right, like this is a tough matchup

993
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 4: Tarik and Devon Witherspoon, although I think Witherspoon might be

994
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 4: a little banged up, but I don't think there's any

995
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 4: doubt he's gonna play.

996
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 3: Man.

997
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 4: You just you are pinning your hopes on a big

998
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 4: play here, and I do think between Hill and Waddle,

999
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 4: like they're gonna hit at least one or two.

1000
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: There's a pretty sizable gap between the two of these

1001
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: guys in ECR. I'm you know, there's always a gap

1002
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: right like Tyreeky's ring tire, Tarak's wide receiver fourteen Jalen

1003
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 1: Wattle's wide receiver thirty one in ECR. Right now, does

1004
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: that feel right to you, Deebro, given the quarterback situation,

1005
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: that the gap would be this wide, because you can

1006
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: kind of make the case that there's like a fairly

1007
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: decent chance for either of them to break a long one,

1008
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: like it could be either one, And I don't know,

1009
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: I just feels like maybe that shouldn't be as wide

1010
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: given the quarterback situation.

1011
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 2: I mean, if we had seen the problem, and I

1012
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: think this is where the gap is coming from, we

1013
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: haven't seen jam and Wattle, Like we all kind of

1014
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 2: wanted him to bounce back. So far this season, he's

1015
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: only gotten an eleven point eight percent target chare, so

1016
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: that's fair.

1017
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he.

1018
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 3: Could still pop off big plays.

1019
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: I mean he almost has three point zero yards per

1020
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: rount run like he's at two point eight right now,

1021
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: so the talent is still there. But the same problems

1022
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 2: we had with Wattle last year where it was like,

1023
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 2: well all of the volume is going to Tyreek Hill,

1024
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 2: what's left over for Wattle. It's happening again in twenty

1025
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 2: twenty four. That's why I think we're seeing that wide

1026
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 2: discrepancy between the two players when we're both saying, okay,

1027
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: both of them have big play upside. It's just the

1028
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 2: volume has not gone to Wattle's direction. And I don't

1029
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 2: know if that changes this week.

1030
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 4: He's never been a high volume guy though, d R.

1031
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 3: I mean, like he he well outside of his rookie

1032
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 3: year where they made him.

1033
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 4: Where he was Jarvis Landery exactly, but he was you know,

1034
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 4: he missed two games last year and still finished with

1035
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 4: a thousand yards. He is a dude who can like

1036
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 4: he's always been hyper efficient, well except for that first

1037
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 4: year with yards per target, yards per route run. And

1038
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 4: granted we can't expect that sort of efficiency with Skyler

1039
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 4: Thompson at quarterback, but I mean, I just like Skyler

1040
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 4: Thompson can throw a spiral, you know, it's not like

1041
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 4: you've got me at quarterback. So like, hopefully Mike McDaniel

1042
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 4: can figure something out, because like that's the only chance

1043
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 4: of winning this game, to get the ball in the

1044
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 4: hands of your speedy playmakers. H Chan, Tyreek Hill, Jalen

1045
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 4: Waddle Did you mention see you?

1046
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 3: I've seen you throw a spirals spirals fitsy.

1047
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: You've been quarterback in some of our flag football games

1048
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: on team trips Can And we're not.

1049
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 3: Talking about me here. Yeah, No, I can still chuck it.

1050
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: We're not talking about me, Fitz, did you mention d move?

1051
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: But I can just have Han ranked in his usual spot.

1052
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, run like running back six. I mean what we've

1053
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 4: seen with him in the passing game like that is

1054
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 4: really exciting. I don't want to see him get as

1055
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 4: many carries as he had to to Debro's earlier point,

1056
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 4: like and I think maybe Mike McDaniel was just on

1057
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 4: tilt after the two injury that a Chan was still

1058
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 4: getting carries with like under five minutes left in a

1059
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 4: game they're down by three scores. We don't want to

1060
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 4: see him getting these twenty five carry games, but we

1061
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 4: like seeing these eight target games, you know, like the

1062
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 4: more usage we can get for a Chan in the

1063
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 4: passing game, get him out into space, like that's going

1064
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 4: to benefit the Dolphins.

1065
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: Let's go to the next question here. This is again

1066
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: going to loop two games together Ravens at Cowboys and

1067
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: then going back to Lions at Cardinals. In my opinion,

1068
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: the two most surprising names in the top five of

1069
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: targets through two weeks of the season are Zay Flowers

1070
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: He's number four and Jameson Williams at number five. They

1071
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: have twenty one and twenty respectively. Zay has been double

1072
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: digits both games. Jameson Williams had eleven in one game

1073
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: and nine and the other. Surprising to see those two

1074
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: names in the top five, just given you and everything

1075
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: we know about them, which of those two do you

1076
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: think we'll have the better Week three? Though? Flowers at

1077
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys or Jamison Williams at the Cardinals fits.

1078
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 4: Where am I got to give the edge to Jamo?

1079
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 4: Sorry about that? Maybe mildly surprising that Jay Flowers is

1080
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 4: among the target leaders flight out shocking that Jamison william

1081
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 4: is among the target leaders, But like, here's the difference.

1082
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 4: The average depth of target so far for Jamison Williams

1083
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 4: twelve point eight yards Zay Flowers six point seven yards.

1084
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 4: So these are higher value targets for Jamo. Flowers already

1085
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 4: has thirteen catches, which is great, but He's averaging nine

1086
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 4: point eight yards per catch and hasn't popped a big

1087
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 4: one yet. His longest catch is twenty one yards. Jamison

1088
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 4: Williams already has four catches more than twenty yards and

1089
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 4: two catches of forty or more yards. I do think

1090
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 4: Flowers has the higher degree of target certainty, like JMO

1091
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 4: has twenty targets, but Jared Goff is currently leading the

1092
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 4: NFL in pass attempts. I don't know if that keeps

1093
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 4: up all year, and I don't think we can continue

1094
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 4: to count on Jamison Williams having a target share approaching

1095
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 4: twenty five percent when he has i'man Ross Saint Brown

1096
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 4: and Sam Laporte's teammates, like there are gonna be games

1097
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 4: where we don't see more than a handful of Jamison

1098
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 4: Williams targets. But Jamo does have the more favorable matchup,

1099
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 4: probably this week against the Cardinals in a game with

1100
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 4: a Vegas total of fifty one and a half. Flowers

1101
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 4: is going against the Cowboys. Still pretty high total in

1102
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 4: that game forty eight points, but I don't know. They're

1103
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 4: both must starts. But I'm a little more drawn to

1104
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 4: Jamo in this one.

1105
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily disagree fits. I will say today's like

1106
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: yards per reception, Like, I think that's going to that

1107
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: for the first few weeks when there's a small sample

1108
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: size that's getting dragged down by the Chiefs game, he

1109
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: was more like thirteen yards per catch against the Raiders.

1110
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: I think that'll be more in line with how they

1111
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: use him in normal, like non Chiefs games. That's not

1112
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: to say that he should be you know, over Williams,

1113
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: he is an ECR, but they're really close. It's say

1114
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: Flowers at wide receiver eighteen and half VPR and James

1115
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: Williams at wide receiver twenty. So both guys that are

1116
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: clear starts right now. Deebra, what do you think about

1117
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: these two and who would you prefer to start in

1118
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: week three?

1119
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: I think they're both having strong seasons, very very different

1120
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: seasons at all the points that fits he outlined and

1121
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 2: to your point where I'm zay, Flowers at did increase

1122
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 2: from six point one to ten point seven a week two,

1123
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: so a little bit more not traditional usage, but a

1124
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: little bit more just not like three yards and a

1125
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 2: cloud of dust as far as screens and design targets

1126
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: and stuff. But for me, it's it's Jamo. I just

1127
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: I have been floored by what we have seen and honestly,

1128
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 2: like I don't want to say like happily surprised, but dude,

1129
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 2: this is the Jamison Williams that we all saw as

1130
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 2: a prospect coming out of Alabama.

1131
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 3: This is the Jamison.

1132
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: Williams that, if he would have never torn his acl

1133
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 2: was the guy that I thought was going to just

1134
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 2: catch fire and light the league on fire, like as

1135
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 2: soon as he was healthy. That is what we are seeing,

1136
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 2: Like he looks so stinking good, and the matchup leans

1137
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 2: his way. They're using him not only deep, but they're

1138
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: using him all over the field. He's getting short area targets,

1139
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 2: intermediate targets, and the deep looks as well. I mean,

1140
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: just put this in context, guys. Amongst ninety two qualifying

1141
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 2: wide receivers, Jmo right now sixth in separation and ninth

1142
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 2: in route win rate. Jamo at this point, like I've

1143
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 2: got him as wide receiver seventeen. I don't think it's

1144
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 2: crazy if we get to a point where if golf

1145
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: keeps throwing this much on a weekly basis, and I

1146
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 2: don't know if that happens where we're ranking Jamo and

1147
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 2: amanra As both like top thirteen to fourteen options on

1148
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: a weekly basis, like that, this is how consolidated this

1149
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 2: offense has been, and how stinking good Jamo has been

1150
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: so far he's been awesome.

1151
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 4: Then we're going to be ranking Sam Laporta tight end

1152
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 4: fifteen apparently.

1153
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, it's Jamo has been awesome, like him

1154
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 2: taking or at least did any of us see after

1155
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 2: two weeks any world where we thought Jamison Williams was

1156
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 2: going to be fighting weekly for the lead in targets

1157
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 2: and fighting weekly for the lead in target here with

1158
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 2: Amara Saint Brown and Sam Laporta, I didn't at all,

1159
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 2: and I just to me, I'm just bowing down. Jmo

1160
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 2: has looked so good.

1161
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams is up there near the top of the

1162
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: list of guys I have the most fomo of not

1163
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: having more of, and I liked him in draft season.

1164
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: I was not fading him at all. There was always

1165
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: one person in my draft who liked him a little more,

1166
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's all I could like him the second

1167
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: most out of twelve guys, but if one person likes

1168
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: him more, then I don't get him. So I wish

1169
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 1: I certainly wish I had more the other thing too,

1170
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: like in terms of the matchup, and you kind of

1171
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: hit on this a bit. Fits like, I'm very worried

1172
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: about Michael Parsons and what he's gonna do to the

1173
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: Ravens offensive line. And we saw when Chris Jones was

1174
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: wreaking havoc in that Chiefs game that it meant a

1175
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: lot of these short screens. So I worry that they

1176
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: might go back to some of that shorter passing game

1177
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: stuff out of fear of Michael Parson's doing what Chris

1178
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: Jones did and kind of pointing out I want him

1179
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: and you know, moving along the line to go after

1180
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: you know, mainly the right guard and Daniel Fole for Baltimore.

1181
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: So I am worried about that for the Ravens passing game.

1182
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 2: And to your point, two, Worm, I think this is

1183
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 2: more of a big Mark Andrews game. I'm gonna I'm

1184
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 2: gonna call that out over over Zay Flowers this week.

1185
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 2: Considering the matchup.

1186
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: Interesting, well, do you think that it could be a

1187
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: likely game and like they use Andrews to block more

1188
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: like could to help out.

1189
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 3: I mean, to your point, that's that's what we saw likely.

1190
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: I mean that was his role, Like he was in

1191
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: the flats, he was getting screens, he was getting designed

1192
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: stuff in week one didn't happen in week two. This

1193
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 2: could be a game where we see just a lot

1194
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: of usage of Andrews unlikely all day.

1195
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 4: I hope, But yeah, that's I do have that same

1196
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 4: fear worm about the route participation for Andrews. When the

1197
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 4: Cowboys are so fearsome off the edge like that, that's

1198
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 4: a little worrisome for me.

1199
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, see how it goes. I think it'll be

1200
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: a fun game. These are These are two of my

1201
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: favorite games on the slate, Ravens Cowboys and Lions Cardinals.

1202
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: I think they're both gonna be really fun ones. Let's

1203
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: go to question number ten, Chiefs at Falcons. Fits will

1204
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: start with you here. Will any Chiefs running back be

1205
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: worth starting in fantasy? With Isaiah Pacheco out, we have

1206
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of options, Carson Steel, samaj p Ryan, ultimately

1207
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: maybe Kareem Hunt or do you think that is injury

1208
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: simply means we're gonna get more passing in Kansas City.

1209
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 4: My initial thought was that this could be a really

1210
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 4: messy backfield situation, and I'll repeat something I said on

1211
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 4: one of the shows earlier this week, although I think

1212
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 4: I got the number wrong, and in two of the

1213
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 4: last five seasons, I might have said three earlier. Two

1214
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 4: of the last five, the Chiefs have not had a

1215
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 4: six hundred yard rusher among their running backs, and I

1216
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 4: think there's a good chance that happens again this year.

1217
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 4: With Pacheco out indefinitely, this could be an unpredictable jumble

1218
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 4: with Carson Steel, samaj p Ryan, Clyde Edwards Hilaire who's

1219
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 4: on the non football injured list and eligible to come

1220
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 4: off in Week five, and maybe Kareem Hunt makes an

1221
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 4: appearance at some point. Keyante Ingram is kicking around like

1222
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 4: this could be really messy. That said, I am starting

1223
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 4: to become a little more intrigued by Carson Steel. He's

1224
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 4: a really interesting player. Like Steel reportedly at his UCLA

1225
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 4: Pro Day this year ran a four point seven to

1226
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 4: five in the forty That is that's pretty slow. But

1227
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 4: despite the lack of speed, he did have a fifteen

1228
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 4: hundred yard rushing season for ball State in twenty twenty

1229
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 4: two and finished with like eight hundred plus rushing yards

1230
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 4: for the Bruins last fall. It's possible. Steel has the

1231
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 4: same sort of season for the Chiefs that Matt Asciata

1232
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 4: had for the Vikings back in twenty fourteen after Adrian

1233
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 4: Peterson ripped up his knee in Week one. Like Aseata

1234
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 4: was this big, bruising fullback tailback hybrid, kind of like

1235
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 4: Carson Steele, who just like he was basically all the

1236
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 4: Vikings had. So by def Matt Asciata had eight hundred

1237
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 4: and eighty two yards from scrimmage in ten touchdowns. Like

1238
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 4: and if we get that sort of season from Carson Steel,

1239
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 4: like that makes him a usable fantasy asset. Like I

1240
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 4: do think he's gonna be the best bet for goal

1241
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 4: line work here, and maybe he's the best bet for

1242
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 4: early down carries even when the Chiefs are at midfield

1243
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 4: or in their own territory.

1244
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 3: You know.

1245
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 4: So, I we talked about this on the Waiver Show.

1246
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 4: I said I'd rather have some ajp RN. I'm reversing

1247
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 4: course on that. I'd rather have Carson Steele.

1248
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: Do you brow, what do you think.

1249
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 2: To Fitzi's I love the Asciata callback. I'm sitting here

1250
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 2: pulling up old Acata box scores. Here in that twenty

1251
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: fourteen season, he had two three touchdown games and another

1252
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: one where he got into the ion zone twice. Good lord,

1253
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: that's a fun time. But I'm with FITZI I think

1254
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 2: Carson Steele, you're looking at it as a touchdown dependent

1255
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: probably our three this week, and he already got the

1256
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 2: goal line stuff last week. He got thirty eight percent

1257
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 2: of the goal line snaps. Talked about this in the

1258
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 2: Waiver Wire column and or excuse me, the Waiver wiar show,

1259
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: and sixty percent of the short yardage snaps. So while

1260
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 2: the stat line might not look sexy for Carson Steel,

1261
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 2: it might be like fourteen to fifteen carries for forty

1262
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: five yards. He could get in the box once, maybe twice,

1263
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: So I think he's a good flex play just considering

1264
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 2: if he's the goal line back for the Chiefs offense

1265
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 2: has value. So I'm not gonna tell you that he's

1266
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 2: gonna get twenty carries or have eighty or ninety rushing yards.

1267
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,959
Speaker 2: But if he gets in the end zone once, he's

1268
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 2: probably a top twenty four back. If he gets in

1269
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: there twice, he's in RB one for the week.

1270
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: Do you think we're gonna finally see Mahomes? You know,

1271
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: on the other side, of this have thirty pass attempts

1272
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: in a game. I mean he hasn't been higher than

1273
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: twenty eight through two weeks this season.

1274
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 3: Yep.

1275
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 2: I think that the Chiefs are with this injury and stuff.

1276
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: I think that they have been very run heavy and

1277
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: they've been playing slow. I think we see the Chiefs

1278
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: get back to doing what the Chiefs do. I think

1279
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 2: they're going to pick up the pace. I think they're

1280
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 2: going to throw more. I think if really the big

1281
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 2: takeaway for me is I think we are going to

1282
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 2: see Rashi Rice get peppered weekly, and I think we're

1283
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 2: going to see Xavier Worthy's floor raised on a weekly

1284
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 2: basis based off of the injury to Pachecko.

1285
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: Do you agree with Effets?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this is just the way the season

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Speaker 4: has opened up. Is just like for Rashi Rice investors,

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Speaker 4: the best possible scenario Hollywood brown out for the season.

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Speaker 4: Pacheco injured, so they're going to replace some of their

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Speaker 4: running game with the short passing game, and that's like,

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Speaker 4: that's where Rashie Rice has been thriving.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we'll get out of there on that. Those

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Speaker 1: are our ten biggest questions for Week three. Thank you

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