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Speaker 3: episode of the Gangster Chronicles podcast. Unfortunately, my guy MC

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Speaker 3: have a very special guest with us tonight. One of

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Speaker 3: the most authentic journalists around. When you know, in regards

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Speaker 3: Sore and Baker. That was a long introduction, man, Thank

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Speaker 3: You and A have kind of been talking over the

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Speaker 3: commemorating fifty years of hip hop. Fifty years is a

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Speaker 4: I mean, you gotta remember, there's hundreds of gangster rap

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Speaker 3: It definitely insights man passionate inside of people. So I

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Speaker 3: The History of Gangster Rap yep. So that's what it is.

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Speaker 3: You know, those four people you name, man, they've generated

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Speaker 3: Cube is probably the greatest gangster of all time, you know,

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Speaker 1: Cube is a bad man. That's an understatement.

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Speaker 3: It'll be on my list several times. Oh man, it's

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Speaker 3: top fifty. Yeah, that's the thing we're letting you guys know. Now,

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Speaker 3: Yeah did, man. But with that being said, you know,

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Speaker 3: So let's get into your forty one through fifty man.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious to see what you got.

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Speaker 4: Cracking, all right, So we're doing one at a time.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about them or you.

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Speaker 3: Just want to go talk about them too. See this list.

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Speaker 1: Forty one through fifty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're doing something different. We're going to ask you.

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Speaker 4: So what I'll do then is all go from forty

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Speaker 1: He's a phenomenal artist, very underrated.

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Speaker 4: And the thing about Project Pat that he does and

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Speaker 1: He's got another album that's hired in this on my list.

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Speaker 4: But Pat, I think it's such a brilliant artist because one,

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Speaker 4: He's got a crucial conflict on there. But you know

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Speaker 4: out there's a great song North Memphis Choices Choppers of course, ballers.

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Speaker 1: And I think Geddy Green is one of.

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Speaker 4: Those albums that because there's so many great albums, I

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Speaker 1: Project.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I also had that on my list, but I'll

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Speaker 1: Then I got schooy D Smoked Some Kill.

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Speaker 4: This is his third album, but it's his first album

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Speaker 4: got another poem, same white Bitch, Should we go again?

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Speaker 4: Black Man Treacherous? And this album I think is so

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Speaker 1: Musically Schoolly de created gangster rap.

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Speaker 4: But with Smoke Some Kill, Schoolly had changed from the

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Speaker 4: gonna go with Ice Cubes the Predator when when they

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Speaker 3: All these songs, hold on, let me go back? So

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Speaker 1: Well for the whole album, for the whole album.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a big album. Man, I had that

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Speaker 3: raty to look higher. Well that's a tough but I'm

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Speaker 4: It's not as good as those two albums.

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Speaker 3: It's very different.

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Speaker 1: Top forties, that's pretty that's a tall, tall order.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. I believe it's fair. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 4: And then we're gonna get to DJ Quick with Safe

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Speaker 4: Quick's got multiple entries on here for me too, and

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Speaker 3: It was very dope aunt.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and like Schoolyde, Quick produced himself, so I think

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Speaker 4: There these guys are the ones that are really putting

437
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 4: in motion what's going on in a lot of the

438
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 4: rest of the country and changing how people wrap. And

439
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 4: I think Quick had that, you know, from his aesthetic,

440
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 4: the way he dressed, his style and everything. He just

441
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 4: he brought a different level of gangsterism to the game. Man.

442
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 3: Well, DJ Quick as a superstar.

443
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: That's that's an understable star.

444
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 3: You know, just from the guys live performances. Yeah, I'm

445
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 3: a big judge of live performances. I can't stand the

446
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 3: dudes that get go on stage and just kind of

447
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 3: just stand up there where they got five hundred people

448
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 3: behind him. You know, Quick as a great performer, and

449
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 3: he's one of the few people that produces just as

450
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 3: good as he wrapped. He raps just as good as

451
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,239
Speaker 3: he produces. Well, he's a one producer and he's a

452
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 3: one rapper.

453
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: I think he is.

454
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 4: I said this on his unsung if you haven't seen it,

455
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 4: but I'm quoted on there because I said and I

456
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,479
Speaker 4: told him many times, but I think he is the

457
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 4: best rapper producer ever.

458
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 3: Oh, he is of all time because he writes his own,

459
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 3: he pins his own wraps. He don't have no ghost

460
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 3: right or no.

461
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: I've been in the studio when he's read it and

462
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: recorded it.

463
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 3: So I've seen I've had the pleasure of being you know,

464
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 3: with him in the studio and seeing him work. It's

465
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 3: almost like seeing the heart surge. And this particular zeal

466
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 3: is because he had bringing down everything on the SSL.

467
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: Is this when you were with High Seeding?

468
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is when I was. I see yep, when

469
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 3: I was going the road with High seeing those guys,

470
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 3: you know, that's those guys gain my breaking industry man,

471
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 3: that whole camp.

472
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: That's why I brought it up.

473
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, but just you know, having the opportunity to

474
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 3: be in there with him and just see him spend

475
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 3: hours on the snare to just really just be like

476
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 3: an I've seen him make the most incredible beats and

477
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 3: just say I don't like it and just throw the

478
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 3: shit away, like like literally a racing and you'll be

479
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 3: looking like, what the fuck? Man? That just sounded like

480
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 3: some alien shit like just her man, this dude just erasing.

481
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, when you're a genius, I guess you can

482
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 1: do that.

483
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 3: He's definitely a genius.

484
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 4: Okay, So my next album is gonna be iced Tea's

485
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 4: freedom of speech. Just watch what you say lethal weapons

486
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 4: on there? You played yourself is on there, and I

487
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 4: think Iced Tea is one of the best rappers of

488
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 4: all time.

489
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 3: Or one of the greats for sure.

490
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 4: I think he's criminally no pun intended, but criminally underrated.

491
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 4: And I think that you know, you Play Yourself and

492
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 4: he Iced Tea, I think is the master of showing

493
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 4: the pitfalls of the game but also the highs.

494
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: Of the game.

495
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 4: And I think he was and remains the best of that.

496
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 4: And I think the freedom of speech of album is

497
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 4: coming where Rapp was under a lot of attack.

498
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 1: This is eighty nine.

499
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 4: You know, NWA had exploded, Easy had exploded, schooly D

500
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 4: had been successful, Ice had been successful coming off the

501
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 4: Power album is a I think best selling album all

502
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 4: the time. And the reality is Ice was like, you know,

503
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 4: just watch what you say. You can say whatever you

504
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 4: want to say.

505
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:25,959
Speaker 3: We're in America.

506
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 4: But at the same time, there's gonna be repercussions, There's

507
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 4: gonna be things that are gonna happen to you. And

508
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 4: I think this album really kind of got on that.

509
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 4: And You Played Yourself is another one of those cautionary

510
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 4: tales that Ice I think is one of the best

511
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 4: at doing and really showing like Ice Cube did schooy

512
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,959
Speaker 4: d did so many people did that are the best,

513
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 4: like the Might, the DJ Quicks of the world, the

514
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 4: Project Pats of the world.

515
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: They show you the downfall of the game.

516
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 4: And you know, I also think that Ice ICE's creativity

517
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 4: and his playerrism was on full effect on this album

518
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 4: as well.

519
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: And you know, we get to send the kid popping.

520
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 4: Up a little bit, and it's just a great album.

521
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: This one is a little hard for me to rank

522
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: this low.

523
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 3: But yeah, I want to go back to Ice teat

524
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 3: real quick because I had the pleasure of meeting Darlene

525
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 3: right here last week. Oh you know, you know, we

526
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 3: took a picture and everything, and I was telling her

527
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 3: about because you know, I thought it was so cool

528
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 3: that he put his own woman on the album cover.

529
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 3: And she said that Ice, he didn't want to do nothing.

530
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: Everything had to be authentic. As a matter of fact,

531
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 3: he said, I didn't know you could lie. So he said,

532
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 3: you know, the idea of him having some chicken he

533
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 3: didn't know on his album cover and wearing juryty wasn't

534
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 3: he is? He said, Man, I got all that shit

535
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 3: for real, I'm gonna wear it on an album. Can

536
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 3: wear my shit?

537
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 4: Well, Ice has told me many times that, you know,

538
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 4: Russell Simmons had come to see him perform early in

539
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 4: his career, and he didn't know that Ice that particular performance.

540
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 4: Ice didn't know he was going to be performing, so

541
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 4: he just went on wearing what he was wearing. And

542
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,239
Speaker 4: he told me that Russell Simmons told him that's your

543
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 4: look because that's who you are. You don't need to

544
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 4: dress like you're from New York or anything else. You're

545
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 4: an LA street dude and you're a fly player like dude.

546
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 4: That's that's your image. Don't change it.

547
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 3: Ice T was very influential, man, because when you know,

548
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 3: back in the day, they used to wear these silk

549
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 3: suits out here man with the like silk shirt. I

550
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 3: saw Ice T had that on. Man. The first thing

551
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 3: I did when I hit California is I wanted to

552
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: swap meet. Bought me two or threeoms those look I

553
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 3: don't know if they was real silk, but I looked

554
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 3: like him, and I got me to look chain with

555
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 3: the Uzie on it. I had a baby first though.

556
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 3: That motherfucker was the flyes dude. Whatever, man, but I'll

557
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: let you continue.

558
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ice is by far one of the greatest rappers

559
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 4: ever the next one. It's hard to put this a

560
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 4: little bit low, but I think many of the albums

561
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 4: that were discussing and gonna be throughout the series, the

562
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 4: productionists held up so much, and I think this one

563
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 4: parts of it haven't, which is why it's a little

564
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 4: bit lower to me, which is criminal minded.

565
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: By booking out productions.

566
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 3: You got a lot of records I got ranked higher

567
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: than the forties, and you got them in the bottom part.

568
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 3: Your list would be a motherfucker.

569
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 4: It is it is. But of course this is a

570
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 4: brilliant album and Karis one to me is top five

571
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 4: rappers of all time.

572
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: But you know, this album really showed.

573
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 4: Gangster rap from the East Coast perspective, especially through the

574
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 4: title track. Nine Milimeter Goes Bang is another one, and

575
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 4: that song in particular, being from Maryland and listening to

576
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 4: a lot of Go Go growing up, that was a

577
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 4: big song that they made into a go Go song,

578
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 4: Nine Milimeter Goes Bang, So you know that had an

579
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 4: extra layer and it just showed like this music from

580
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 4: the South. Bronx is resonating all the way down in

581
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 4: DC and being on an independent label be Boy Records

582
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 4: and Karris, you know, they didn't have at least to

583
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 4: my knowledge, they never have any videos for this or anything.

584
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: It was just like pure word of mouth.

585
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: It was just all word of mouth.

586
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 4: And this album is a masterpiece. But then you get

587
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 4: like Poetry and Elementary and all these other records that

588
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 4: are not Gangster rep and karas One who have had

589
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 4: the pleasure of meeting and interviewing and hanging out with

590
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 4: the number of time over the years. You know, the

591
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 4: harder Streeter stuff. Gangster stuff was more Scott LaRock and

592
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 4: karas One was much more on the poetry to Elementary

593
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 4: and that's what you see starting, you know, on the

594
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 4: next album, which is why the rest of will get

595
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 4: on productions. And then Karris Wan's music as a solo

596
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 4: artist is so different because that wasn't what who karas

597
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 4: One is or what he wanted to represent.

598
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: He wanted to be the.

599
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 4: Stop the violence guy, the self destruction guy, and you know,

600
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 4: that's my philosophy guy. And that's why, you know, the

601
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 4: subsequent albums sounds so different, but it's a masterpiece. It's

602
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 4: just the production. I think then age as well, so

603
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 4: I had to for me, at least when I'm looking

604
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 4: at the totality of these projects. I'm trying to you know,

605
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 4: I'm as objective as possible, and I just that's the

606
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 4: one thing that dinged it down and got it a

607
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 4: little lower than me.

608
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, His beach don't really didn't really

609
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: hold it up over time compared to a lot of

610
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: other stuff, you know, now, that one and I think

611
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 3: you got to think about it. He was on one

612
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 3: of the probably worst record labels at that time. They

613
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: put out a lot of pivotal albums. But like I was,

614
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: that's the same label. I believe EPMD was on the

615
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 3: first Sleeping Bag Records.

616
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: Right, No, they were on B Boy Records for Criminal Minded.

617
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 4: Okay, so Sleeping Bag had just Ice at epm D,

618
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: at Steezel at Manta. Right, you're right hugely, but B

619
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 4: Boy Records mainly had Looking Out productions, JVC Force and

620
00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 4: Sparky D.

621
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Sparky D. What's funny about the album?

622
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 4: Man?

623
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: I remember I think Carris One only made like five

624
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: thousand dollars off the album.

625
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: Man, it wasn't surprised me.

626
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 3: You made like five g's off a classical album. It's crazy,

627
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 3: all right, go ahead, So I'm sorry.

628
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 4: So next, we're going to get into one of our

629
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 4: personal favorites, and a great album is the Convicts album. Uh,

630
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 4: Big Mic and three two just killing this. This for

631
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 4: the convicts, the one nine hundred dollar Crook. It's hilarious.

632
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: Penitentiary blues Man, Illegal Aliens. They put out a legal

633
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: Aliens today, man, I'm doing.

634
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: They wouldn't be able to put that song out today.

635
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 3: They couldn't do it. Everybody is so sensitive now. But

636
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm not going to say I agreed

637
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 3: with everything they said in that song necessarily, but the

638
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 3: stance that they were coming from, they were all most

639
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: on some real textas patriotic shit, you know what I mean.

640
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 4: It's like Texas is its own country. But I think

641
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 4: this album, as you and I both know, it's a

642
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 4: shame that the Convicts only did the one album because

643
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 4: Big Mike, of course later with the Ghetto Boys and

644
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 4: later as a solo artist, is a phenomenal talent. And

645
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 4: then three to two, you know, unfortunately didn't didn't get

646
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 4: to make as much music, but.

647
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: He's very They almost wond up on different riggords, you

648
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: know that.

649
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: Right of course they were out here making the chronic.

650
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, they almost wound up on different ricords. Man, I

651
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 3: talked to Big Mike about it all the time.

652
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did an interview with him and we talked

653
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 4: about that on my Unique Access Entertainment channel on YouTube.

654
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 4: But the reality is this album is amazing, and I

655
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 4: think it just shows Peterman of course is on there too,

656
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 4: but it just it's amazing. But I think it's it's

657
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 4: a very well rounded album.

658
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 3: And storytelling and everything on there. Big Mike showed his

659
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 3: ass as was three.

660
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 4: Two, yeah, and the next one, And this is one

661
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 4: of those things I was mentioning earlier that UGK could

662
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 4: and maybe arguably should have more entries. But I think

663
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 4: Riding Dirty is the most gangster album because Dirty Money

664
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 4: I love and has so many great songs, but I

665
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 4: think that Riding Dirty is the one. You know, one

666
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,719
Speaker 4: day murdered Diamond Wood. That's why I carry like these

667
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: these are straight super gangsterism type of songs, and it

668
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 4: just shows, you know, one of the things that I

669
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 4: love about rap is getting all these different perspectives. So like,

670
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 4: if you're looking at the people I've been mentioning, like

671
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 4: Project Pat, Memphis, schooly D, Philadelphia, Ice Cube, La, DJ

672
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 4: Quick Compton, iced T South Central, We'll get out production

673
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 4: South Bronx, and you got the Convicts from well Big

674
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 4: Mike from New Orleans originally but then relocating to Houston,

675
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 4: and then three two in Houston. But then we get

676
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 4: to UGK with Port Arthur, PA. And that's the thing

677
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 4: that I love in that just coincidentally my list really

678
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 4: represents is that getting all these different voices, all these

679
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 4: different street tails from all over the country and these

680
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 4: are now in different errors. You know, some of my

681
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 4: stuff is from the eighties, some of it's from the nineties,

682
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 4: So it's just showing you know, rap growing, developing, rap,

683
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 4: you know, evolving.

684
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: And I think that.

685
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: Bunby and PIMC, of course had phenomenal chemistry. Another self

686
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 4: produced group largely done by PIMC, of course, But I

687
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 4: just think that their storytelling and their perspective was very,

688
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 4: very distinctive and really uh broke things down in a

689
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 4: different way from a different perspective than we really had had.

690
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 4: And it's hard for me to only put one, but

691
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 4: like I said, I think Ryding Dirty is the most

692
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 4: street gangster album that they had, So that's the one

693
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 4: I think is the best.

694
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 3: Match for sure. I hope y'all appreciate what we're doing

695
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 3: right now, because what we're doing for as much as

696
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 3: we're putting our list together in real time in front

697
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: of you guys, because I'm over here writing things down,

698
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: because we got some unanimous choices across the board. But me,

699
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 3: I have multiple entries with UGK, that's one of my artists.

700
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 3: I got multiple entries in What's Your Next one?

701
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: Man?

702
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 4: The next one is hard because I look at two

703
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 4: these albums similar, but I'm gonna go with the East

704
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: Siders producer and trays.

705
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: The old fashioned way.

706
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 4: I had them higher because I think this album, oh Man, Trady,

707
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 4: Godi Locan, of course, Snoop do such a phenomenal job.

708
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: Nate Dogg is all on it, buta Toya Williams is

709
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: on them multiple times.

710
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: What's your favorite song on there?

711
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 4: I mean, crip Hop Connected, East Side Riders. Those are

712
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 4: probably three of my favorites, so it's hard to say

713
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 4: my favorite song. I love it, of course, was a

714
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 4: big single Doghouse in Your Mouth. I mean, it's just

715
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 4: so many great songs on this album.

716
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: I like Doghouse in your Mouth, sugar Free, Kiel.

717
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: That shit, did he ever?

718
00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, sugar Free destroyed that.

719
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: So this album, I think Goldie Lok is great, and

720
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 4: Trey D has continued to be such a phenomenal rapper

721
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 4: and put out so much material. I know he's got

722
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 4: new material out now. To tray D, I think is

723
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 4: one of those artists. For whatever reason, I don't think

724
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 4: the masses really understand and appreciate what a great artist trade.

725
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 3: He is as lyrically, he's very visual with his lyrics

726
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 3: extremely because I even listen to him on Glass. You

727
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 3: got a song with Glasses where you say it what homicide,

728
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 3: come align them bags up, and it was just like

729
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 3: so I said, damn this motherfuckers really like the West

730
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: Coast Crip version of rock Kim.

731
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: No, he is phenomenal, you know.

732
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 4: Actually it's funny you say that because on my Unique

733
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: Access people should check it out. We did a Best

734
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 4: Album's episode where I talked to him about his favorite

735
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 4: album and he did Paid in Full, So Eric being

736
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 4: rock Kim is Paid in Full is his favorite album?

737
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 4: Talk about that in general. So it's funny you just

738
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 4: bring up him about being a West Coast He.

739
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 3: Gues cadence is kind of similar to rock Heems, you know,

740
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: because he's a Margs and the Margan guy. You know,

741
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 3: he just spitting man like when he said that shit,

742
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: he said, I forget it, verbating what he said. He said,

743
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 3: not he's scared to hang out. Niggas know we did.

744
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 3: We screamed insane out, you know, like not he scared

745
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 3: to hang out. And I was like, Damn, this is

746
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: a bad motherfucker. He's very underrated man, severely underrated.

747
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Trady is one of the most underrated

748
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 4: rappers ever and I think he's an immense talent, giant

749
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 4: in the game.

750
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: He was man one of my favorite rappers for sure.

751
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 4: And I think there was in Trey's old fashioned way. Ironically,

752
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 4: the first album is self titled debut album, was more popular,

753
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 4: sold more and all that other stuff. But I think

754
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 4: this album is actually better. I think it's They're both

755
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 4: have spectacular moments and they're both great.

756
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: But I think and trade. I just I don't know,

757
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: I just I.

758
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 4: Really really think the production. So now number fifty, the

759
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 4: last one on my list is a Snoop DOGG No Limit,

760
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 4: Top Dog.

761
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 3: No Limit, Top Dog. I had to hire.

762
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 4: Too now this album. If you haven't hired and you know, bitch,

763
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 4: please buck them. Down for my ends. Snoop of Fella.

764
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 4: There's so many songs on here, but the most impressive

765
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 4: thing to me about it is to me, Snoop as

766
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 4: Glass as that I have talked about. I'm sure you

767
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 4: and Glass have talked about. That's he thinks it's the

768
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 4: best rapper as the best catalog, and I think No

769
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 4: Limit Top Dog. You know, coming from dog Father and

770
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 4: the first No Limited album, people were kind of like, eh,

771
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 4: I don't know about Snoop as much. But then when

772
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 4: he came back with No One Limit Top Dog, I

773
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 4: had never lost faith in Snoop because I had been

774
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 4: around him and I knew what was happening during this time.

775
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 4: And then when I went I happened to go to

776
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 4: his house and he played me to him and a

777
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 4: little me talk dog. Uh this is when he used

778
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 4: to stay in Claremont, and I was like, I couldn't

779
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 4: believe it. Still, I was just like, this album is bananas,

780
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 4: and you know Buckham being toward the front of the

781
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 4: album sticky Fingers was you know, I knew he was

782
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 4: rumored to be on Aftermath or was on Aftermath collaborating

783
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 4: with Aftermath, but to hear how he and Snoop worked

784
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 4: so well together, exhibited exploding on Bitch Please, super Flies

785
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 4: on there, I mean, sugar Freeze on the album.

786
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: It's just it's a.

787
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: Real dope album. It's amazing, and it was Snoop kind

788
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: of saying I'm still here.

789
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 4: Not only that, but I'm as good as I've ever been.

790
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 3: But was crazy about it. Man, dog Father took a

791
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: lot of flack and I heard, you know, I remember

792
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 3: hearing whispers through the enemy, you know, through the whole

793
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 3: industry today was trying to get rid of Snoop and

794
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 3: I was and that was really befuddled because of that,

795
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 3: because that shit sold like two or three million albums.

796
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was definitely.

797
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: I didn't know what the problem was. I was like,

798
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: why are they getting while trying to get rid of Snoop?

799
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 4: Well know, but to this point with no of them

800
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 4: at Top Dog coming out in nineteen ninety nine, you know,

801
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 4: Snoop coming out with deep Cover, then being the start

802
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 4: the Chronic and then Doggy Style, that's you know, ninety

803
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 4: two to ninety nine, that's you know, seven years, but

804
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 4: really eight years. And it's like, dude, to be to

805
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 4: quote unquote to have people feel that you fell off,

806
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 4: and then eight years later you're like, have the with

807
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 4: Bitch Please. In particular, you got the biggest song in

808
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 4: rap exact probably or one of the biggest songs at

809
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 4: the time, and that's through the Reunite Reuniting with Dre.

810
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 4: It's just so much going on on this album, and

811
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 4: I was just like, people don't know, man.

812
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: But him and Doctor Dre are definitely peanut buttering Shelley.

813
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 3: Whenever I see them two get together, I don't care

814
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 3: what time period of seeing I'm betting on them dudes,

815
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 3: as you should, because they're going to come out with

816
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: some shit that's just gonna ship the whole coach all

817
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 3: the time.

818
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: All right, So that's mine. What about you are?

819
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: Still? Okay? We got a lot of the same ones,

820
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 3: the stuff that you already had on your list that

821
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: we went over. I'm not going to go on a

822
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 3: you know, a long time about it or whatever, because

823
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 3: we already talked about it. I'll be very brief. My

824
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: number one is Big Mike and Lord three to the Convicts.

825
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: All right, Oh for forty one, for forty one.

826
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, for forty one. That's my forty one right there.

827
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 3: My next one is Schoolly de smokes and kill.

828
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: All right, you know, I guess you know me, you

829
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: that's the same.

830
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: Actually, you know me, You and eight all voted than

831
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: that one. Right. My number three album is Easy. Easy

832
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: doesn't not my favorite one over here, but it's kind

833
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: of just.

834
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: The honest A lot higher with Easy, doesn't.

835
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm pretty sure yours is higher. But

836
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 3: I say that because Easy is almost like you know,

837
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: schooly D is the godfather of gains the rep, but

838
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: Easy is the godfather between him and ice T. I

839
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: gotta give to ice T first, but I got an

840
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: ice T way up higher too. He has multiple entries,

841
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 3: by the way, but he is my forty three. My

842
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 3: forty four is my man, Project Betpack Getty Green. You know,

843
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 3: even though he got the pat the sketch the from

844
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 3: my bay Ball, I think he perfected it. And he's

845
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 3: severely underrated. Man. He's one of the greatest storytellers in

846
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: hip hop. Pat is for sure, No Patty is man.

847
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 3: Go out and check out Project Pat. Don't sleep on

848
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 3: my guy. My forty five is the Dayton Family. You know,

849
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 3: my Midwest cast. You know the Dayton shout out. You

850
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: know what's on my mind. Number forty six for Me

851
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: is Trick Daddy based on a true story, forty seven

852
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: above the Low, Black Moth Your Life forty eight, Koogie

853
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: Rap four five six. You know, I think this I

854
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 3: could have rated this higher, but Koogie Rap is just

855
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 3: one of the greatest lyricists of all time, one of

856
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: the greatest rappers of all time. Doesn't necessarily make the

857
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: greatest albums though.

858
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 4: Well, I got Cooled You Wrap a different album higher,

859
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 4: so he'll be on my list, but for a different project.

860
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 3: But he's definitely one. He's definitely and I.

861
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 4: Got The Black Mafia Life higher too, so we'll be

862
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 4: seeing yeah.

863
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 3: See so yeah, that's one of the ones that we

864
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 3: got to write down that's in there, you know, Automatic Entry.

865
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 3: I kind of struggled with this one because I love him.

866
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: I love him as an artist, but he is not

867
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 3: consistent at all. Was that mc ringing, Shock at the Hour?

868
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 4: Shot at the Hours phenomenal? And I think Ruthless Villain

869
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 4: and Ruthless for Life. Really those three albums I think

870
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 4: are all excellent projects. And Shot at the Hour I

871
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 4: just remember, you know, Bob Catechors did a lot of

872
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 4: work on there too.

873
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the staff producer at that time. You know,

874
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: after Drede left, Easy got with him because he was

875
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: doing a lot of stuff with Rhythm D and those guys.

876
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 3: You know, he had continued doing a Rhythm D and

877
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 3: there with Bob was kind of running the whole staff

878
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 3: over there.

879
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

880
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 4: Well, Bobcat, as you and I have talked about many

881
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 4: times over the years, to me, if not one of

882
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 4: the most underrated producers, but he's a phenomenal producer. Some

883
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 4: of his stuff's gonna show up elsewhere on my list.

884
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: But oh for sure, I think that shot at the hour.

885
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 4: I think Wren Again, it's hard for me to say

886
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 4: he's underrated because he's in NWA and because kiss My

887
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 4: Black Ass was a platinum EP, But I think mc

888
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 4: wren is still underrated, and I think that, you know,

889
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 4: I think it's just because when you come from basically

890
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 4: the Beatles are rap and you got Ice Cube and

891
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 4: Doctor Dre and Easy, that it's like you could be

892
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 4: an All Star on the All Star team, but it's

893
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 4: just tough.

894
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 3: Well, you know the thing about it, he had to

895
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 3: battle all those other guys, celebrity you know, Doctor Dre,

896
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: who was like, who's been the best producer in hip hop,

897
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 3: like at Forever, you know, Forever, you know, you got

898
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 3: easy who's very polarizing, right, you know, he just had

899
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 3: that risk and he was you know, he was interesting.

900
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: You know because I first heard him, he thought it

901
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 3: was a sixteen year old kid or something like that.

902
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: You remember, he made the little things, he made a joke, and.

903
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 3: I thought the motherfucker was really sixteen. For the bongs,

904
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: I was like, who is this bad motherfucker man going

905
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: on cussing everybody out? I just thought it was a

906
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 3: trip man. But my last and final one, I wanted

907
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: to put this higher. This is a group that has

908
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 3: multiple entries in my list. I picked UGK super Tight.

909
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: That was another one that.

910
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 4: Was I was trying to figure out UGK and how

911
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 4: to properly salute and uh present them. But super Tight

912
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 4: is super tight, so I have no no problems there.

913
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. So if you look at this, we

914
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 3: pretty much almost our lists.

915
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: Were identical, very very similar, very similar, even though.

916
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 3: He had some steps through me off. But that's what

917
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 3: these things do. I think everybody should speak from the

918
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 3: hard on because it's not all about record sales all

919
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 3: the time. Because as you know, being a you know, writer,

920
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 3: you know, writing for hip hop as long as you

921
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 3: have marketing plays a big part.

922
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, look like, for example, both of us

923
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: have The Convicts and you got Dayton Family.

924
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 4: I've interviewed Dayton Family, and you know I got Bootleg

925
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 4: on Unique Access Entertainment. But the reality is Dayton Family

926
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 4: put out a lot of great music and the Convicts

927
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 4: both through Too and Big Mic. But then as the Convicts,

928
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 4: that's a great project that definitely didn't sell a lot

929
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 4: of units. It definitely wasn't known by most people. I

930
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 4: would argue, but it's amazing fifty three or something like that,

931
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 4: and the rap charts the Convicts autum on R and B.

932
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: It wouldn't it wouldn't surprise me.

933
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: So but problem that was almost from word of mouth.

934
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 4: And that's why I'm glad we're framing it in the

935
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 4: way of this is like purely about the art, and

936
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 4: I think that to show that the Convicts their album

937
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 4: is so amazing and really set the stage for especially

938
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 4: Big Mic to really blow up as a solo artist

939
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 4: and as a member of the Ghetto Boys. But it

940
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 4: just shows you that this type of stuff, man, really,

941
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 4: really it is all about the art. When we're talking

942
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 4: about it because the convicts wouldn't be on here if

943
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 4: we only cared about record sales or if that was

944
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 4: such a big point of it.

945
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: So I'm glad we're doing it this way.

946
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 3: Well, it can't be just about record sales, man, because

947
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 3: like I said, master Piece sold a lot of albums

948
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 3: back then, a lot of albums. And I had master

949
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 3: Pe ice cream Man initially in my bottom fifty and

950
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 3: I made it ih oa because I just, you know,

951
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 3: it's all about impact to me. Master P really when

952
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: he came in the game and we just kind of

953
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 3: give him a preview for what may see next week.

954
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have previewed the remixes, but

955
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: I think.

956
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 3: Master P man for with it. He pretty much usher

957
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 3: in the era of the hustler, of the true hust

958
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 3: the dude that says, you know what, motherfuckers might. He

959
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 3: sounded like a real New Orld language dude, you know

960
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 3: what I mean. He sounded like he was a dude

961
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: really from down there for New Orleans, you know. He

962
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 3: sounded like one of them more boys, you know, for real, right,

963
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 3: And it was just a different sounds. So I dug it.

964
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 3: He wasn't the most. You know, it's not like you

965
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 3: know when you hear NOAs I didn't exactly listen to

966
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 3: master p because you know, to get exercise and lyricism, no,

967
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 3: you know, but it was just some good old fashioned

968
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: hood shit.

969
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 4: And that's the other thing I think that's important about

970
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 4: this list and just discussing rap. Everything's not about always

971
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 4: got to have these like supreme lyrics, you know, it's

972
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 4: about the music, about the like I was saying, criminal Minded,

973
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 4: like some of those, it's the vibe, and it's the production,

974
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 4: it's the feel. And you know, I'm sure as we

975
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 4: get going, we're all going to have more stuff with

976
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 4: Doctor dre produced. But when you see that like that

977
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 4: just shows you the power and the importance of production.

978
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 4: And that's why, you know, a lot of these records

979
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 4: as we get into the top, you know, get into

980
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 4: the thirties and above, like, you know, you gotta have

981
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 4: the great lyrics, you gotta have the great stories, you

982
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 4: gotta have the great production, you gotta have all these

983
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 4: elements that make it timeless music, which is why we're

984
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 4: talking about it exactly.

985
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 3: And as you see having half any ice ta in

986
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 3: my bottom, you know, my final team because I haven't

987
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 3: much higher.

988
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 4: Well I got Iced Tea higher too, so they'll be multiple.

989
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 4: And he's one of those artists that got several entries

990
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 4: on the list for.

991
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 3: Sure, as he should, you know, I can tell you

992
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 3: right now, we haven't brought his name up yet for

993
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 3: the group Scarface.

994
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: He's on here a couple of times.

995
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 3: He's right there next to Cube, and I told him that.

996
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 3: And I'm going to be honest right now. I love

997
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 3: Ice Cuban as a rapper, but I Scarface is my

998
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 3: favorite rapper. But I told Scarface that. He said, man,

999
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 3: he better stop that. Knock it off. He said that

1000
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 3: Cube is a bad motherfucker, of course, so it was

1001
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 3: kind of it was funny, you know, to hear him

1002
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 3: say that. I was telling him, like, dudes, you my

1003
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 3: favorite motherfucker. You and Q. Him and Cube are so.

1004
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: Similar in a lot of ways.

1005
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: You know. They're just both really descriptive with their rhymes.

1006
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 3: And this is one thing I don't like and hip hop,

1007
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 3: the dudes that kind of do too much with the

1008
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 3: lyrical miracle, you know, all that stuff. To me, that's

1009
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 3: for me. Biggie Gray, Biggie Q, and Scarface all share

1010
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 3: the same characteristics. They say a lot by saying a

1011
00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 3: little like Biggie, you know my rap rhymes, light, laying minds,

1012
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 3: one step to boom, black suits, field the room, ice, cute.

1013
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 3: God damn. I'm glad y'all said it. Though used to

1014
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 3: be hard. Now you just salt, you know. So it's

1015
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 3: just like they do. The most was saying a little

1016
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 3: and you understand what they're saying. I know a lot

1017
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 3: of incredible rappers. Man. The rass Cash to me is

1018
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 3: one of the baddest motherfuckers.

1019
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: They ever hold a microphone, that's for sure.

1020
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 3: As China wag sell, for sure, we're living in the

1021
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 3: real life idiocracy area era right.

1022
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: Now, no doubt about it, to where people.

1023
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: Don't want to think so. I enjoy their music, but

1024
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 3: there aren't that many intellectus. It's more idiots than.

1025
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: Those intellects, that's for sure.

1026
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 3: You know, not saying that people not dumb, but people

1027
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 3: just want it. Some people can't digest that type of stuff, man.

1028
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1029
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 3: Well, and if the people don't understand what you're saying, man,

1030
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 3: usually you can lose somebody along the way.

1031
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 4: That happens, and that's why the razkaz is in the

1032
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 4: Chino excels of the world are more popular, but that

1033
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 4: doesn't take away from their talent at all.

1034
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 3: And those guys have been able to carve out a

1035
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 3: niche in the game for themselves where they've had some

1036
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 3: really long careers and who's to say, maybe if they

1037
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 3: win commercial they may not still be around. These guys

1038
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 3: are still actively touring, putting the albums in.

1039
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 4: They're still respected, absolutely absolutely, and I.

1040
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 3: Think that's what makes this thing hip hop's so interesting.

1041
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: The biggest parallel I give the gangster rap is almost

1042
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 3: like professional wrestling. You have all of these colorful people

1043
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 3: and everybody has their stick like, you know, you have

1044
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 3: Dusty Roads, you have you know, Dusty Rose kind of

1045
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 3: represented the common man. Rick Flair represented the Paul. You know,

1046
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: he came out with the woo and a little struck.

1047
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: He was just a bad motherfucker, right right. And I

1048
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 3: think that's when you look at the ice cubes, the scarfaces,

1049
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: a lot of people sleep on them. And this is

1050
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 3: the guy that got multiple entries in his list. I'm

1051
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 3: pretty sure you got him too. Short. These dudes have

1052
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 3: a swagger that's almost out of this world. When you

1053
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 3: meet short and I you know, I trip off sometimes

1054
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 3: that these dudes are actually my buddies now, right, you know,

1055
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 3: I actually, you know, talk to these guys and now

1056
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, this is I'm talking too short right now.

1057
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 3: He's a bad motherfucker. He's been doing it for a

1058
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 3: long time. You got to give him as props, man. Yeah,

1059
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 3: anytime somebody could survive something. Man, what an average shelf

1060
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 3: life is two years? Dude, two and a half years

1061
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: for a rapper, And I'm talking about somebody had a push.

1062
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, if that, if that, and that's.

1063
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 3: Someone that had a push, that's someone that half they

1064
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 3: had a career. Right for these dudes to be around,

1065
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 3: fuck thirty forty years, they've short been doing it a

1066
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 3: motherfucker last ten years. Look at the run Cube. Is

1067
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 3: Steve rest Releivant his effort? Yep, he's just making movies. Yeah,

1068
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 3: you know at this point he's almost like Michael Jordan.

1069
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 3: He don't done so much in the game. What the fuck?

1070
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 3: What it else for him be for him to do

1071
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 3: in the game?

1072
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I mean that's like I was saying. When

1073
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: you look at the.

1074
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 4: Ice Tea, the ice Cube, the Snoop Dogg and another

1075
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 4: one and the Doctor Dre those four that's that's really

1076
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 4: the pinnacle of everything. And they all other than Snoop,

1077
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 4: they all got started in the eighties and Snoop was

1078
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 4: right behind him in ninety two.

1079
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 3: So and they're still doing it. Man, And who would

1080
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Speaker 3: have ever thought that Snooper wound up the biggest thing

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Speaker 3: man in Black America. Man, just straighten to come home. Man,

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Speaker 3: he's just a phenomenal god. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: It's like Snoop is all and I'll say this is nope,

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Speaker 3: I'm not being disrespectful at all. But Snoop is almost

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Speaker 3: like a cartoon character. He's like the McDonald's sign. He's

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Speaker 3: like Mickey Mouse, which means he's just like an entity

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Speaker 3: upon it.

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Speaker 1: He's world famous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's world famous because I remember, I never will

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Speaker 3: forget this man. Me and Big psychles thing out. Big

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Speaker 3: Cycle was one of my good friends. Like we had

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Speaker 3: formed a really good relationship and we were in Dubai.

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Speaker 3: He actually had a show out there. So in this

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Speaker 3: hotel we weren they had like a dry queens downstairs.

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Speaker 3: So I took some shit you know when you got

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Speaker 3: lucks going overseas, and just got these nice ass shirts

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Speaker 3: that just got ruined. You're all wrinkled up and shit right.

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Speaker 3: So I take them to the dry queens that I

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Speaker 3: come back to. Lady says, oh you have daddy, nice material.

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Speaker 3: Are you entertaining you know? I was like yeah, I said, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I do this and that. She said, I don't know much. Rep.

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Speaker 3: I know Snoop Doggy Dog. I like Snoop Doggie Dog.

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Speaker 3: And we're talking about us probably at the time, a

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Speaker 3: sixty seventy year old Hindu woman.

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Speaker 4: Wow, she knew who.

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Speaker 3: Snoop Dogg was. I could see it. Damn man, that motherfucker's.

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Speaker 1: Popping, that's for sure, you know.

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Speaker 3: So, man, we don't get together next week. Yep, we

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Speaker 3: got our bottom ten and we're talking the phone about that.

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Speaker 3: And you guys see the results in the next six weeks,

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Speaker 3: next five to six weeks. So I will tell you

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Speaker 3: I would give you a long drawn out oultro soon,

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Speaker 3: but I'm gonna see your ass next week. Man.

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Speaker 4: There it is he here next week.

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Speaker 3: App here next week. I want to give you guys

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Speaker 3: out there, man, a message. COVID is still out there.

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Speaker 3: Make sure y'all washing, y'all hands, man, make sure I

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Speaker 3: don't know if we need to go back to wearing

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Speaker 3: a mask. I don't even want to get in all that,

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Speaker 3: but take care of yourself though still out there and

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Speaker 3: we out of here. Well. That concludes another episode of

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Speaker 3: the Gainst the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download the

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Speaker 3: iHeart app and subscribe to The Gangster Chronicles podcast For

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Speaker 3: your screen, subscribe to the show, leave a comment and rating.

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Speaker 3: Executive producers for The Gangster Chronicles podcasts of Norman Stealed

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Speaker 3: Aaron M c a Tyler. Our visual media director is

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Speaker 3: Brian Whatt, and the audio editors tell It Hayes. The

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Speaker 3: Gangster Chronicles is a production of iHeartMedia Network and The

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Speaker 3: Black Effect podcast Network. For more podcasts from iHeart Radio,

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Speaker 3: visit the iHeart Radio app Apple podcasts wherever you're listening

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