1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by a hard rock bat. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: We are part of the Volume podcast network. This is 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: the show that makes the squares sharper and makes the 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Moleman. I am 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: joined as always by my co host. My companion might Beff, 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: my compadre professional better signon hunter head o S. 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: I mean, Chad, let's get into it. How is your 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: knight brother? 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Dude, look at this. It's so weird. It's so weird 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: to root for school that in football is literally the 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: second losing his program in NFL history. To love the school, 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: to love the fight song so much, and to see 13 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: this team that has been so historically bad. When I 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: had gone to so many games where we'd start off 15 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: the season three and zero and then we'd play Michigan, 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: Ohio State, Iowa whoever is in that rinking ding rinky 17 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: dingk Memorial Stadium and it'd be empty, extupp for me 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: and one other guy, my buddy Matt, and like, we'd 19 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: get blown out and that would be the season. And 20 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: we were physically dominant on the offensive line, we were 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: strategically brilliant. We had mistakes, we got breaks there was pageantry. 22 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: The idea that there is a generation of people right 23 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: now who are going to grow up thinking Indiana football 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: is an exciting thing to experience, that Indiana tailgates on 25 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: a Saturday afternoon in Bloomington, or all of a sudden 26 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: something people want to go to that college game day 27 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 1: and big noon kickoff. Are going to want to start 28 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: the season at Indiana. Like, it's insanity to me the 29 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: Indiana fight song being sung on national television at the 30 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: end of that game. Even my wife was happy for me, Like, 31 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: it's just it's it's remarkable. It's the number of texts 32 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm getting for congratulation. I mean, all I have to 33 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: do was sit on my couch and watch the game. Amazing. 34 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: Kudos to you for giving out the here's yours twenty 35 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: four hours before the game. 36 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish I could take credit for it, but yeah, 37 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: that's just following very smart people. 38 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: It's smart money. But yeah, it's it's. 39 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 3: What draw us people into college football. I know, it's 40 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 3: a sport that gets a lot of hate because it's 41 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: so top heavy, and you know, you give teams hard 42 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 3: times because it's like, you know, if you're a diehard 43 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: Arkansas fan, what is that life. 44 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: You're never going to be relevant. But this is the 45 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: exact scenaria why you never give up. 46 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: Right, if you get the right coach with the right 47 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 3: kind of NL money, we should start with the. 48 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: Top of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And the coach is. 49 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 3: The most important part anythings possible in college football. Right 50 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: if you can strike getting the coach before they leave 51 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: for the big time school, you can do it. 52 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: You might become a big time school. 53 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 3: He signed now for a long time, so yeah, I 54 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: just I can't get over the turnaround. If he's doing 55 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: this with you know, three four start two star recruits, 56 00:02:58,600 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: a couple five star. 57 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: Now we're gonna start rolling in. It's bizarre. 58 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: Whatever college basketball school like Duke is now a team 59 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: winning their conferences in football, it's Duke Indiana. 60 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: It's a bizarre time right now in the college football space. 61 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: I love it. 62 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,839 Speaker 1: Freaking bizarre world nil money transfer portal. Go hire an 63 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: old coach who's proven in it, he can win the money, 64 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: does the recruiting for you. There's a blueprint here that's 65 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: really really fascinating, But it's not what we're talking about today, Simon, 66 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: because this is the semi strip down in the room 67 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: eavesdropping version of Sharp or Square. 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That's Sharp or Square dot the 78 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: volume dot com. If you want to know me and 79 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: Simon our team name Chad and Simon BFFs, because that's 80 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: who we are. Are you ready my bff my brother 81 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: to get into it for today Sunday Week fourteen? You're ready? 82 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, buddy? 83 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: Right here we go. Games reserved in on the other day, 84 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: Indy at Jacksonville. Look, I think we both come around. 85 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: We're on Jacksonville at this point. I've actually bet Jacksonville 86 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: on the money line. I didn't even bother with the spread. 87 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: There might be massive thunderstorms and rain in this game. 88 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't love Trevor Lawrence in any scenario, but I'm 89 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: just sort of going to lean into it. I'm going 90 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: to lean into the storm. I'm going to be like 91 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: you know in Caddyshack, it's not the hard. Stuff's not 92 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: coming down for a while. Go Jags. I just I'm 93 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: too worried about Daniel Jones. They've also got injuries that 94 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: along the defensive line the Colts, which I think is 95 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: impactful for them. So we're gonna stay on the Jags. 96 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, on the Jags. 97 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: But it's definitely a type of game where you know 98 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: you don't want to make a huge position on it 99 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: because of what Shad just talked about. You're factoring an 100 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: unknown factor into a game where we've seen it time 101 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: and time again. It's not a strength at all for 102 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence to play in bad weather. 103 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: I mean, just off the top of my head. 104 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 3: The one that really pops up because I'm an Eagles fan, 105 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: is that game where the Jaguars and Eagles. Jaguars dominating 106 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: the game, beating the Eagles, and I think he had 107 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: four fumbles he might have lost three of them against 108 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 3: the Eagles. And the Eagles came back and won that 109 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: game the second half. So I don't love it for 110 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: our Trevor Lawrence belief in bet here. 111 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: But the truth still holds true, which is. 112 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: I think this is a Jaguars sem is going to 113 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: give real problems Daniel Jones. That offense on the cold side, 114 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: on the offensive side, I still think they'll be I'll 115 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: take advantage of this cold secondary. 116 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: So, like Jed said, it's if it's gonna be one 117 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: of our five. 118 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 3: We kind of wanted it to be perfect scenario with 119 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 3: this Jaguars team because we both have such reservations about 120 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 3: backing Trevor Lawrence. So this kind of gives us the 121 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: out here if we do not want to put this 122 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 3: in one of our five, just because it makes me 123 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 3: lead confidence knowing that it's going to be a really 124 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 3: bad weather down there. 125 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: All right, well, we don't have to do it. We 126 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: don't have to do it Tennessee A Cleveland another game 127 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: we don't have to do. Cleveland is a three and 128 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: a half point favorite. We both bet Cleveland here. You 129 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: had the line of the Week on Thursday where you're 130 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: just like, we seem to get so locked in on 131 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: these games we talk ourselves into it, are we going 132 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: to try to talk ourselves out of it? On Sunday? 133 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: The line has moved from three and a half to four. 134 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: There are fours in the world. It's been trending in 135 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: that direction of the last twenty four hours. So I 136 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: feel a little bit better that the money is starting 137 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: to come in on Cleveland. I don't think it's just 138 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: public money. I think it's professionals betting on the Browns. 139 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: But do we like it enough to put it in? 140 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 141 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: I've dug in all week about how I just love 142 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: this Browns team because it's really a bet to me 143 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: on their defense. And shockingly, there are some four and 144 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: a halfs popping up there. So, like Chad said, there 145 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: is not just professional money. Obviously, public money is coming 146 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: in here on this Browns team. And I think it's 147 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: because people are seeing the weather report this morning, which 148 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: is cold, freezing side where snow and rain and just 149 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: bad wins right now what they're predicting for Cleveland. So 150 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: it's another game where we can lean into it. Trust 151 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: is defense, and we talked about they just simply got 152 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 3: outplayed by their. 153 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: Own special teams last week. 154 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: This Browns team, right I think if you go back 155 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: and watch it, Chaggia about the stat every drive felt 156 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: like it started their own side, their own fifty for 157 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers, right, the foreign arows kept being 158 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 3: to eat on the Browns forty, the Browns thirty. You know, 159 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: coaches going from the Browns doing thirty and gave the 160 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: four nine ers a start on their own thirty. So 161 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: it's a little scary now in that shad Or Sanders 162 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: is such a big favorite here chat, but I told 163 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: you this to me, is not him being a big 164 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: number here. 165 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: This is this big number, is this defense. 166 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: This is purely a defensive number, and it's all about 167 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 3: what we were confident, right. 168 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: We literally dove into this exact position. 169 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: I don't know, it feels like ten years ago, but 170 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: it was probably four or five weeks ago on Miami 171 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: versus Brown's team in this exact spot. Yeah, Gabriel right 172 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: with Gabriel, which is no different than Sanders. My model 173 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: Lily has a difference of half a point between these 174 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 3: two guys. So it's if we believe in a chat, 175 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: we're simply betting a good number, which hard rock is 176 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 3: right now in my stre and a half because this 177 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: number is going to four and a half forward a 178 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 3: lot of books, and we're banking on this defense in 179 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: this weather at home. It just feels like a unique spot. 180 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: So I'm still in on it. I don't know if 181 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: you if you want to join me. Like I've joked 182 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: about it, I am probably over one hundred on this 183 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: Tennessee team these last two years, but I just feel 184 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 3: like this is a unique spot back on this Browns team. 185 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: We have no rhythm when it comes to the Tennessee 186 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: Titans zero. We we cannot catch the falling knife on 187 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: this team, but we have a lot of rhythm with 188 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: the Browns. Yeah, and so I've I'm still on it. 189 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: I've bet into it. I'm not walking away from it. 190 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: Let's just commit to its. Yeah, let's own it. Because 191 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: don't forget, these lines are dynamic in this contest, So 192 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: you can start betting it as soon as the line's 193 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: open and up until kickoff, and if you decide to 194 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: make changes along the way, you're gonna have to make 195 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: changes to everything. So it's part of the sort of 196 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: gamification of this contest. Miami at the New York Jets, 197 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: this was Chad choice to two and a half in 198 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: the contest. Not the best number because it's been three 199 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: for much of the week, I still love it. I 200 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: bet the Jets. I bet the Jet to three. I 201 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: bet the Jets of three. On Wednesday, I bet the 202 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: Jets of three. I think again on Thursday, I bet 203 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: the Jets money line. I'm all in on the Jets here, 204 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: and maybe I'm making a mistake, maybe I'm sort of 205 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: over enthusiastic, but I just don't see how a Jets 206 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: team that was a two and a half point underdog 207 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: on the road against the Dolphins in Week four is 208 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: now still as bad as that Jets team in Week 209 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: four when we've all seen the issues the Dolphins have 210 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: as well, so the line hasn't changed in ten weeks. 211 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: Doesn't make any sense to me. 212 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and unfortunately, this is the one of the games 213 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,599 Speaker 3: that won't be affected by the colder bad whether I 214 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: think it's going to get up above forty here in 215 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 3: Jersey by kickoff, sunny skies, no rain, no snow, none 216 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 3: of that, which is something I honestly was hoping for 217 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: in this matchup. I thought I was gonna play into 218 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: our favorites, especially you know, earlier in the week we 219 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: were talking it was supposed to be in the twenties 220 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 3: low thirties in this matchup, which you know, we all 221 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 3: know the stats too. It tends to struggles exact climate. 222 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: But I love it. 223 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: It's it's a. 224 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 3: Pros pros game. It's truly all the it's just pro 225 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 3: money on the Jets. All the other money is all 226 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 3: public money on this Miami team, and for a good reason, 227 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: right Miami, they have as. 228 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: Much crap as we like giving them. 229 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: We thought they were deader than dead, right, They kind 230 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 3: of given up on the season, and they've totally not 231 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 3: turn it around, but they've at least showed up for 232 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: their head coach here down the stretch right after they 233 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 3: fired their general manager. 234 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: I think they've won three of their last four. 235 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 3: So it's a unique spot here for this Miami team 236 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: that you know, I think the public is starting to 237 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: finally believe in them. Where we talked about this Jets game, 238 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 3: we were never gonna be able to avoid it. 239 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: We liked the number. This probably should be closer to 240 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: a pick. 241 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: It's totally overaction to the public to me on this 242 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 3: Miami side and on the flip side, Taylor, we've been 243 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 3: on this the stats, Tyrod Taylor last eight starts seven 244 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: to zero to one against the spread. It's just continually 245 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: undervalued against the public, and we've been backing them along 246 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 3: this whole stretch. So nothing's changed here, right. We like 247 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: the number, like you said, perfect world. Just like last week, 248 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: we would have loved to gotten this two at three 249 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: and a half. That would have been a really safe, 250 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: secure number. It's never gotten there. Like you said, the 251 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: threes come down at two and a half. Romost every book. 252 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 3: So we'll take down the contest and not get scared 253 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: off by this number. 254 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: We will not be scared off because we think the 255 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: Jets are going to win this game outright, New Orleans 256 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: at Tampa Bay. The line is currently eight and a half. 257 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: The Saints are eight and a half point underdog. Simon, 258 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: this is going to be our rock and a hard place, 259 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: hard rock bet of the week. 260 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: I want a rock. 261 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: You talked about the Saints a bunch on Thursday. It 262 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: took me a minute to come around. I am on 263 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: the Saints now. I bet the Saints at plus eight 264 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: and a half. I bet the Saints on the money line. 265 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, just for fun, just a little taste, 266 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: not like listen, not like you know college tuition money, 267 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: just like you know a burato ball Chipotle. But I 268 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: just sort of feel like the Bucks have not been 269 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: played up to the level that everyone thinks they are 270 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: and the Saints. I'm not going into the oh the 271 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: Saints are more competitive than you think, but their underlying 272 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: metrics aren't as bad as you think. So I'm not 273 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: uncomfortable playing the big number here in the division a 274 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: game that was much more competitive than the score indicated 275 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: the last time these two played. 276 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I love it too, because it's back in 277 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 3: this Saints team, We're either going to be in a 278 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 3: really close, back to the word type of game where 279 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 3: they do have an opportunity. 280 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: Or it's dead in the first quarter exactly. 281 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: We will either or will be down thirty to nothing 282 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 3: in the first half and just getting totally blown out. 283 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: So these are the gross ugly dogs. I like. Betting 284 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: gave out that stat on Tuesday. 285 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 3: Again, we didn't really talk much Thursday because I think, 286 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 3: like you said, it wasn't much on your radar, but 287 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: I did wildly love it. I look at this one 288 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 3: where it's it's really the best based off just kind 289 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,599 Speaker 3: of like that Jets game where the public continues to 290 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: undervalue the Saints team. And we've gone back now last 291 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 3: couple of years. You know, this Saints team divisually on 292 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: the road as an underdog or eight to zero against 293 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 3: the spread. So they've had a run here these last 294 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,599 Speaker 3: three four years where they keep getting undervalued by the 295 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 3: general public. They go on the road in their division, 296 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 3: which we joke all the time, the NFC South. No 297 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: one knows what's going to happen, but you can't bank 298 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: on taking the dogs and a lot of these matchups, right, 299 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: and we've kind of have that proven out. 300 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: So you said it best. 301 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: The last time they played, they got blown out, I 302 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: think three to twenty three something like that. Yeah, but 303 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 3: it was. 304 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: Not a twenty three to three game. That was a 305 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: The score was twenty three to three. The circumstances that 306 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: led to it being twenty twenty three to three were 307 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: not dominance by the box. It was flukey plays a 308 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: lot of luck. They were only winning seven to three 309 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: at half, and that was because of a pick six. 310 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: Like nobody was playing well in that game. 311 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: I would say total melt down by the Saints if 312 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: you go back and watch it. But we do give 313 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: some grace. 314 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 3: That was when we think Bett Baker had an injury 315 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: he didn't disclose and he was fighting through it, and they 316 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: had a bunch of injuries obviously to the offense. 317 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: No God would know my the snow Buck Irving. 318 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, this matchup for me, it's really just back 319 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: in about the public just moving this number too much 320 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 3: and overrating this Bucks team that yes, they're going to 321 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: be better now they have a lot of other guys back, 322 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 3: but that defense. There ain't no guy coming off the 323 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 3: bench that's going to save this defense for this Bucks team. 324 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 3: They have been terrible against the run and they've really 325 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: struggled the season with teams that can push the ball downfield, 326 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 3: which you know, as much as crap he's like to 327 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: give shuck, he's actually been pretty. 328 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: Good yeashing the ball downfield consistently. 329 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 3: So yeah, we both love this number, and really it's 330 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: about the line plus eight and a half at every book. 331 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: I can't avoid it another game. I just love on 332 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 3: this dog and I'm glad we at least have one 333 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: road team. We're here backing. 334 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: Warren Sap is not walking through that door. 335 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: No. 336 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: I put Houston plus three and a half at Kansas 337 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: City on this list. Wow, This number was four and 338 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: a half at a book on Saturday afternoon. I don't 339 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: know if you saw that. I grab Houston at four 340 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: and a half. It's now back down to three and 341 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: a half at most places. I just wanted to throw 342 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: it in there because we're getting the better defense in 343 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: the contest. We're getting the better defense and the hook 344 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: against a team that has basically played all close games 345 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: this year. Whether we think the Chiefs will win a 346 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: close game and there'll be some regression to the mean 347 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: in a positive way, or they're going to lose a 348 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: close game, getting the hook feels important to me in 349 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: this contest, especially when we know the Chiefs are not 350 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: going to have their starting left tackle. They might not 351 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: have their starting right tackle. He was doubtful slash out 352 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: on the injury list yesterday, so they're going to be 353 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: playing two backup tackles for protecting Patrick Mahomes against possibly 354 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: the best pass rush and definitely the best defense in 355 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: the NFL Sunday night. 356 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, but again, it's so different than Dallas Lions game shot, 357 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: and it's something where we joke about it. But if 358 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: the line just seems off and there's something fishy and 359 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: it's it's what week fourteen here, you gotta trust your 360 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 3: instincts here, So I get what you're taking a position 361 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: on Houston. 362 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 2: Everything you said is true. 363 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 3: I just I want people to be wary of this 364 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 3: game because what Chad just said, why is this not keep? 365 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 3: It was moving to three like I got a bunch 366 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: of threes in the Chiefs. It was moving in the 367 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 3: three two and a half direction. Now they're left and 368 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 3: right tackle might be out, and it's going up the 369 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 3: four four and a half, So be careful. 370 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: I'm on the Chiefs. I guess we're just split here. 371 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: Like you said, everything is very logically you said in 372 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 3: Houston they have the best unit on the field. Obviously 373 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 3: in this defense, they're just incredible. This this actually is 374 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 3: a pretty good matchup with them. But I think on 375 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 3: the flip side, this is the exact type of game Stags. 376 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 2: Gets right against this Houston offense. 377 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 3: So to me, it's me be the type of game 378 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 3: that you know is gonna be one in the red zone, 379 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 3: and I think Chiefs Mahomes they take advantage of this 380 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 3: Houston team in the red zone. On the flip side, 381 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 3: I think Houston continues to struggle in the red zone 382 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: so I get Chad's perspective, your people, but just be careful. 383 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 3: They're something very fishy about this number in the way 384 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 3: it's moving where I'm on the Chiefs, but very very 385 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 3: leaky confident. You can hear my voice. I just yeah, 386 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 3: I don't trust this Chiefs team at all. But it's 387 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: just like the lines, I'm simply playing a fishy spot 388 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 3: on a team that historically tends to bounce back in 389 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 3: this exact spot. 390 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: I'm only on the Texas at four and a half. 391 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: I'm kind of agnostic or ambivalent about it at three 392 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: and a. 393 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 2: Half and half im the Chief. 394 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 3: Honestly, it's not scared me, but it's like, again, I 395 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 3: just to be one of our five. It's like, man, 396 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: I really wish you came in super confident, the Chief, 397 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: so I can have backed you up here, But it 398 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: sucks for split, so I guess we'll just avoid it. 399 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: Well, look, I think we have three games we're agreed 400 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: on so far, Cleveland, the Jets, and the Saints. Boy, 401 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: that's a magnificent trio. That's like the Indiana University football 402 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: team of the nineteen seventies trio right there. 403 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: So now we got to make it so what's Alanta 404 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 2: in this contest? 405 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: Atlanta is hold on and a half. Now I think 406 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: Atlanta six and a half. So this is where it 407 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: gets tricky, right because Atlanta, which we which I liked 408 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: a lot. 409 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: That's a very very sharp, a lot of sharps. I know, like, yes, 410 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: I do not see it. 411 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: Drake. I I backed out of it because Drake London 412 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: is not playing and I'm not going to buy into 413 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: Drake London. Buffalo and Cincinnati Cincinnati six and a half, 414 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: that's interesting to miss. 415 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: You want that six and a half. 416 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: I like Cincinnati and six and a half, all right, 417 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: But but the other games that we've liked all week, 418 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: Baltimore we've liked all week. It's up to six and 419 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: a half in the contest. 420 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't let that. 421 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 3: I mean again, very smart professionals have taken the six 422 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: the six and a half on Pittsburgh. 423 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: So that could be my little bit hesentation. And I 424 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: don't know if you saw them more. 425 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: Apparently got stepped on in practice and he missed the 426 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: day and he did come back I. 427 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 2: Believe on Thursday or Friday. He did practice. But it's 428 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 2: not again. 429 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: I wish I could be more confident in betting this 430 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 3: Ravens team, but the historical data just shows like Pittsburgh 431 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 3: as a doll here, you're supposed to blindly bet it, 432 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 3: but I just I can't get there. 433 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: It just sucks. It's a bad number, like five and 434 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 2: a half. 435 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: I'd honestly make us put this Ravens game at six. 436 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: And a half. 437 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 3: If we can't find anything else, I'll put it in. 438 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: But it's it's obviously not that good of a number. 439 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: The Jags, by the way, in the contest are two 440 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: and a half, so that to me changes the calculus 441 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: a little bit. 442 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: Drags are two and a half. 443 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: In the contest. 444 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 3: That's crazy because hard Rock is one and a half here. 445 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I could get into it this weather, 446 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 3: though it does. I'm trying to keep perspective. It's like 447 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: we're betting Trevor in the rain. But that's a great number. 448 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: The other game that I want to bring up, I 449 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: know we're bouncing around here, but we're looking at contest. 450 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: The Las Vegas Raiders are now eight and a half 451 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: against you. Okay, good, I'm glad. I listen. You mentioned 452 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: the Raiders the other day. I don't want to do 453 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: it but I wanted to. 454 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 3: Respect to number what I told you I got. I 455 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 3: got more invested in Denver's money line, So I just 456 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 3: I don't want to. 457 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: Be sweating that. All right, Well we got already used 458 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: to come down. I probably gonna lose that money, but 459 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: my god. 460 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: We got some tough choices to make then. So like yeah, like. 461 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 3: Again, I don't know if you're gonna like these games, 462 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 3: like we're supposed to be betting green Bay, Like you know, 463 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: we're supposed to be betting green Bay. But it's a 464 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 3: hard spot because it's like green Bay has not covered 465 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 3: this number at all all season. Bears have lived up 466 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 3: like expectations. I mean, they've gone far and above what 467 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: we all predicted. They've been covering machine. I just don't 468 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 3: get why this number is not budged all week. If anything, 469 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 3: it's going to seven at a couple of yeah, I 470 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 3: saw that, and it's been never any amounts of Bears money. 471 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 3: I went to the book on Tuesday. Both guys in 472 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: front of me in the line, we're betting the Bears. 473 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 3: I went to the book on Wednesday. Four different people 474 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 3: in the line were talking about this Bears, how much 475 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 3: I love the Bears. It's never any amount of love. 476 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 3: I'm just saying for the general book on this Bear 477 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 3: as well. So again, we don't have to get there. 478 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 3: I know you don't love it because you're you went. 479 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: You know I bet the Bears on the money line. 480 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 3: Listen, I told you I made that bet that Chad 481 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 3: bet that the Bears money line with in the inner 482 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 3: who'siers money line? 483 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: But my god, this number is it's the fishiest line 484 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 2: of the week. 485 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: Simon. Do you see this? Do you see this? You 486 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: see this? Do you know what's underneath it? By the way, 487 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: do you know what's underneath it? Hold on shirt all right? 488 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 2: Showing me his nipples. People. 489 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: So I got the Bears T shirt and the Indiana hoodie. 490 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: I root for I root for champions, but I don't 491 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: want to put put him in the contest. 492 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: What's our favorite? Though? We need to get a favorite 493 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: in here. Check because we last week, I know, I 494 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: know we got smoked. 495 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: Listen. We loved the well we have Cleveland and don't 496 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: forget three and a half. Look, look, I'll say something 497 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: crazy here. 498 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: I say it. 499 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: Okay, we love the Rams at seven and a half, 500 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: and we bet it at seven and a half. It's 501 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: at nine and a half because there's a bunch of 502 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: injuries for the Cardinals. Why not the Rams nine and 503 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: a half right now? Terrible number, But I think if 504 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: they win, this's going to be a blowout. 505 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 3: All right, I can be talking into it. 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All right, brother, So the way I'm looking 541 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: at it right now, Jacksonville plus two and a half, 542 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: Cleveland minus three and a half, Jets plus two and 543 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: a half, New Orleans plus eight and a half, la 544 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: Rams minus nine and a half. Those are our five. 545 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: All right, all right, well listen, listen, Chad and Simon BFFs. 546 00:25:54,440 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: Just put that into the Sharper Square contest page. Everyone 547 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: can go sign up sharpersquare dot the volume dot com. 548 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: You still got a chance. You can find shatt at 549 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: Simon bfs apps. You'll see our picks. It's all there, Simon. 550 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: One more thing before we get out of here. As 551 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: a native of England, I know how much you love 552 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: the actual original football. Please confirm that for me. 553 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 2: I love it. 554 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: I know you do. I know when I know when 555 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: you watch your favorite English Premier League team you only 556 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 1: speak with an English accent. The pre eminent international soccer 557 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: tournament will be hosted right here in America this summer. 558 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: At the draw for that tournament, as I said, took 559 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: place on Friday. It drew more viewers worldwide than the 560 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Seriously, I don't know nearly as much as 561 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: you do on the subject. But I do know a 562 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: couple of things. The tournament has expanded, so nearly fifty 563 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: countries are going to play one hundred total matches. Because 564 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: of America is the host country, the US men's national 565 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: team automatically qualifies, which is nice. But I hear it 566 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: got big expectations. I saw the coach the other day 567 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: said he had big, big expectations at hard Rock Bet. 568 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: Right now, you can already bet on every single match 569 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: in the first round with hundreds of markets available for 570 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: every single match. Plus you'll find tons of futures like 571 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: group winners, top score, MVP simon. I know you got 572 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: a whole group of people like guys who tell you 573 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: when to bet Indiana. What do you hear about early 574 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: soccer bets people might want to find in their hard 575 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: rock bed app right now? 576 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 3: I hope maybe I can persuade you to get into 577 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 3: it because it's in the summer. This is like the 578 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 3: prime time through betting, these exact type of spots, like 579 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 3: it's right around NHL NBA playoffs, and this is the 580 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 3: tournament right this is all the different countries and sad 581 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 3: I just talked about the viewership is insane for these 582 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 3: types of things. Just reading off the list of where 583 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 3: these teams, what groups these teams are going to play 584 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 3: in the better number of the Super Bowl, it's just 585 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 3: you can't wrap ahead around it how many people are 586 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 3: obsessed with this exact tournament. 587 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: So from the. 588 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 3: Top, the very basic this is have you been there 589 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 3: before to the party? 590 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: Right? 591 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: And just like if you want a Super Bowl football, 592 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 3: it's easier for some reason to win another super Bowl, 593 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 3: it's the same in this tournament. If you've done it before, 594 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 3: it's easier to do and if you haven't, it's basically impossible. 595 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 3: You're just if you're not nobody of the party're never 596 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 3: going to do it. So it's very top heavy people. 597 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 3: Off the basis, if you just want to pick a 598 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 3: team and that's your team for the tournament, the top 599 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: four Spain, England, France, Argentina, you can just pick one 600 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 3: of them, right, if you want to do that in 601 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 3: your future market, that's a move to make. 602 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: Right now, when I look at this, there's one group 603 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: of death. 604 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, my favorite team is in that group of death, 605 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 3: and that is Norway. Norway, which is a team that 606 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 3: if you don't know they have a guy named Holland 607 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 3: he's the greatest striker in the world. Basically, he's the 608 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 3: homes of the sport, basically al Ja and Get. He's 609 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 3: just the best at what he does at a certain position. 610 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: And in this sports, soccer, the whole game could change 611 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 3: if you have an unnaturally gifted goal scorer because it's 612 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 3: so hard to score in this tournament because everyone's just 613 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 3: so tight. 614 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: It's just such a big deal of these guys. So 615 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: unfortunately they're in the Group of death, which is Group I. 616 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: They have France. 617 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: It's France, Norway and then Senegal, which if you know 618 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 3: anything about Senegal, it's an African country that is filthy, 619 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 3: filthy at soccer. They are pure Dallas cowboys, tons and 620 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 3: tons of offense, no defense, and they're really fun. 621 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: We're in that group. France right now is minus one eighty. 622 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 3: You can get Norway plus two eighty at hard Rock 623 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 3: plus two sixty if you want to bet that, and 624 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 3: them to win it all, which overall the whole you know, 625 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 3: cup I think they're plus three thousand. 626 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 2: A lot of books. 627 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 3: It's moved now to twenty five to one, so it's 628 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 3: Norway's come down a little bit people have been hitting 629 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: it even though they're in the group of death. If 630 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 3: you are very lazy American better we've done it, people. 631 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: We are in the exact group you want to bet 632 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 3: a For the first time in my lifetime, this might 633 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: be our best opportunity in the next two hundred years 634 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 3: to win this. 635 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: Twenty just because at home for us, and. 636 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: They basically laid it out where we're not going to 637 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 3: face any good teams for the first month. They've really 638 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 3: put us on a nice spot here for the first 639 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: couple of weeks. And basically the USA is in Group D. 640 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: We are plus one twenty right now at hard Rock 641 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 3: I talk to a proably makes this minus two hundred 642 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 3: in this group. That's how bad. Again, I'm not trying 643 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 3: to pick on USA. That's just how easy our group is, 644 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 3: or we don't have any of these big times. South 645 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 3: America or European teams are our hardest competition right now 646 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 3: is not even decided yet. It could be Turkey, which 647 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 3: again that doesn't put up a lot of fear to you, 648 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 3: or Paraguay. 649 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: Those are just not that good at teams. 650 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 3: And then fishing out the bottom of the group is Australy. 651 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 3: I think they're eight to one to win this group. 652 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 3: So to me, if you're looking for a very home 653 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 3: er bet, I don't hate it. If you want to 654 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 3: bet the USA to win the World Cup, there is 655 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 3: a path. I can squim my eyes and see it. 656 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 3: Just because it's a new year, there's forty eight teams 657 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 3: in this new tournament the way they've let it out 658 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 3: and these a lot of these countries have not dealt 659 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 3: with America humidity. So I can see the opportunity for America. 660 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 3: If you want to bet them the long shot to 661 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 3: win it all, I think you can still get them 662 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 3: at sixty six to one or fifty to one. But 663 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 3: to me, group play to win their group plus one twenty, 664 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 3: there's good value there to win them group D. So 665 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 3: really fired up for USA's prospects in this tournament. 666 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: Listen, United States could be the Indiana of global soccer 667 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: this year. And reminder, hard Rock Bet is your betting 668 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: home for all of this summer's global soccer action. Reminder, 669 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: our picks are in Chad and Simon BFFs. We're at 670 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: Jacksonville plus two and a half. That's the number in 671 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: the contest, where a Cleveland minus three and a half 672 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: New York Jets plus two and a half, New Orleans 673 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: Saints plus eight and a half, and Los Angeles Rams 674 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: minus nine and a half on the road against the 675 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: battered Arizona Cardinals. This has been Square part of the 676 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: Volume podcast network. We will be back on Sharper Square 677 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: tonight seven point thirty ish after the late afternoon America's 678 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: game between the Bears and the Packers will recap all 679 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: the misery and glory of the day. Watch or listen 680 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: on YouTube at Sharp or Square. Like the video, subscribe 681 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: to the channel. Download us from Spotify, Apple Pods, whatever 682 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: you get your pods, rate review, subscribe, leave us five stars, 683 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: say whatever you want. Feedback is a gift until next time. 684 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: Love you God. This isn't going You're not at all 685 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: I understand it. This is ANFL which stands for not prolonged. 686 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: When you make them golls, I'll be selling groceries.