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Speaker 1: Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Okay, here everybody,

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Speaker 1: It's Scott Patterson and this is the I Am All

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Speaker 1: In Podcast I Heart Radio, one of Leven Productions. Amy

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Speaker 1: because this is like just the best episode. This episode.

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Speaker 1: But before, okay, before we get to the episode and

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Speaker 1: we are joined by Riley pellusis today, Hello Riley, how

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Speaker 1: are you? Um? And Hi? Hi? No, no, you can

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Speaker 1: say hello Hi you go way hi hii and Uh

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Speaker 1: and Amy Sugarman. And last night we we did our

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Speaker 1: first live virtual streaming podcast, Friends Giving. What a huge

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Speaker 1: gift that keeps on giving throughout the podcast, and we

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Speaker 1: had an incredible time with the greatest fans in the world.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Um and Uh the coolest dude

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Speaker 1: who Jackson Jackson like all of them, Like like Grant

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Speaker 1: Emily what it was amazing the guests that came on,

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Speaker 1: filled with activity and exciting. Yeah, great questions. That's the

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Speaker 1: will be able to download the Friends Giving podcast. They'll

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Speaker 1: it right on Thanksgiving Day, Thanksgiving Day, that's happening. So

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Speaker 1: it real, um, and we are going to discuss, uh,

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Speaker 1: So here I have a question right out the gate.

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Speaker 1: point like this, I is a one trick pony here,

424
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: and he's not gonna do it any other way. So

425
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: I'd better conform because this is a brick wall and

426
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: he ain't changing, right, that can affect some change in

427
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: another person. I mean, just by this yer example of

428
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: Luke's life, he gets up early, knows to grindstone. He's

429
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: a great friend. He has aspirations, but it doesn't take

430
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: precedence over his life and what he needs to do

431
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: to pay his bills and you know, provide coffee, donuts

432
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: and food for the citizens of Stars Day. Yeah, that's

433
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: his job, right, It's like he's part of the heartbeat

434
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: of that town, right, so he's he's got a responsibility

435
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: and that rubs off on Jess. Eventually, I hope, right,

436
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: and he'll see he'll see what it is too. I

437
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: don't know, be a man like grow up and accept responsibility.

438
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: It is an epic fight that Luke and lorel I

439
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: have and then lower La doesn't want to go in

440
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: the diner, and then it comes full circle because then

441
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: come back to the house and admit, like, you were right.

442
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: But I never worried that this was they weren't going

443
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: to make up. I didn't like Luke in that moment.

444
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: I just I don't know really. I mean, it's like

445
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: I was almost like, how dare you talk to her

446
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: that way in her kitchen when she's just I know

447
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: he didn't see what she was doing. I know he

448
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: didn't have the knowledge that Jess took a beer and

449
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: I was about to drink. It was disrespectful to Laurela

450
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: in her own house, and she was overstepping a little bit.

451
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: I will say, because you think so. See that's the debate, right,

452
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: justify did it for the right reason? Tirade. But yeah, yeah,

453
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: I felt he was justified. They both were a little

454
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: over the top because they both could have calmed down

455
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: and had it helped each other. But she's getting pissed

456
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: and she also knows she's right, which ultimately she sort

457
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: of is. But like you have to be sensitive to

458
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: people like this kid just came into town. You're the uncle.

459
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: You're trying to deal with this situation. You're doing the

460
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: best you can, You're trying to do the right thing.

461
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: So I understood both perspectives. I don't know, I just

462
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: think Laurela was completely justified going out into the porch,

463
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: into the back there, taking the beer away. She was

464
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: still being nice to him, she was still just trying

465
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: to talk to him right, and he was being nasty,

466
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: unnecessarily nasty to her and dismissive, been disrespectful, and that's

467
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: her daughter, And there ain't no way that that guy

468
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: is not going to get red Riot Act from that

469
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 1: woman protecting her daughter. She was come hud justified. She

470
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: was even justified kicking him out, like get out of

471
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: my house, because that's what I would have done if

472
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: somebody talked to me that way in my own house.

473
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 1: And I have done that. Actually, I have dismissed people before,

474
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: and and but she had every right to do it,

475
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: and I'm surprised she didn't do it, because all she

476
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: did was said, okay, you know, she took the beer

477
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: and she goes fine, and then she left. She said

478
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: something definitive and left. I can't recall what she said,

479
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: but it was it was. It was clearly drawing a line,

480
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: and he knew he was still welcome to come back

481
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: in and join the festivities even after that. And so

482
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: she's her blood is up. And then and Luke comes

483
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: in the room, completely ignorant of what's going down, doesn't

484
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: even bother to ask her what happened, doesn't even bother

485
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: to give her a chance to explaining, explaining, not that

486
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: he has owed and exploit well, he kind of is

487
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: owed an explanation, um, and she's offering one as a friend, right,

488
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,719
Speaker 1: trying to explain to what happened, and he doesn't get it,

489
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: and he so he starts getting very territorial over Jessin,

490
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: and his manhood threatened. And I just thought it was unnecessary.

491
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: It made sense to me, though, I I his reaction

492
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: was not so out of line. It was like he's

493
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: trying to defend this kid. He's trying to do the

494
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: right thing. It was a little bit of a low

495
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: blow when you mentioned that she got pregnant sixteen. That

496
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: was I think so too. I was shocked that he

497
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: went that low. I did not like that. That was rough.

498
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: But ultimately he does come back around and admits she's right.

499
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: But Luke's also trying to figure this out and is

500
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: getting emotional, which he hates. He gets in it's yeah,

501
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: so he's like, and then we get to the jam

502
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: Hands scene and it's just you know, he's I forgot

503
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: I remember jam Hands, but I forgot that it was

504
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: in this episode. I mean, jam Hands is such a

505
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: classic Gilmore. I think that's that's one of the Luke

506
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: classic rants. Right, was that that wasn't the first rant,

507
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: but that might be the first classic. No patients for

508
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: jam Hands. And it's like it just was building. I

509
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: think that's what had to happen, is like it's just building, building, building,

510
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: and she's trying to tell him like you're in a

511
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: world of her, bro this is gonna be rough. No no, no, no, no, no,

512
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: Bill Bill Bilbil. I just didn't like how he wanted

513
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: her in the kitchen. I did not like that, but

514
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: I want to reach into the screen and smack him, like,

515
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: don't talk to her that way. I didn't mind it,

516
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: because again, it's so real. People get mad and people

517
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: act crazy when even when it's not justified because they're

518
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: dealing with something else. It did two things. Okay, it

519
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: delayed the inevitable of them getting together. That bought two seasons.

520
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: Another thing it did it has showed the audience that

521
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: she is too good for him. Right, the audience was

522
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: thinking it's the other way around, he's too good for her,

523
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: but in that moment, she was too good for him.

524
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: Look at it. That's when it showed I see what

525
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: you're saying, but I also see it as we're just

526
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: seeing that Luke is humid. They're both just real people

527
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: trying to help each other, trying to do their best.

528
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: And look, she was ultimately right, but it was almost

529
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: a little too soon for her to point that out. Right,

530
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: it is your nephew, it is your problem. You're trying

531
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: to help. You love this kid. But why wouldn't he

532
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: want to help from her? He loves her? Why that

533
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: wasn't ready? He wasn't ready. I get I get he's like,

534
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: you know, he's a full blown adult. He's he's he's

535
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, full blown adults respect each other's boundaries. That's

536
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: definitely a boundary. But he's in the house behaving a

537
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: certain way and being disrespectful to him, and he needs

538
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: I get. I get that he felt like she was

539
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: crossing into the boundary. But it was like the reactions

540
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: just like, would you just shut up and listen to her?

541
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: Just listen to what she's saying to you, guys, wasn't

542
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: ready to hear the truth and he and look, he

543
00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: comes around in one more day. And now because of that,

544
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: I think it took them to a closer level, because

545
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: she forgives him immediately, like when Luke comes in and says,

546
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: I was wrong, you were right. It's not like she's

547
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: like holding a grudge. It's just immediately like, yeah, here

548
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: I am, let's let me hear it. Yeah, I'm splitting hairs. No,

549
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting, Well, let's talk about how much you

550
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: do dislike Paris right now. I don't know. I find

551
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: her falling in. I almost find her character devolving into

552
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: the category of cartoonish because it's just so over the

553
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: top absurd evil mustache twirling. I'm gonna get you, you you know.

554
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: It's it's like, you really gonna make me eat this

555
00:32:54,560 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: right now. It's like, but I'm in come on, I

556
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: don't mind it because it's so real everywhere else, do

557
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like all the other scenes

558
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: that so like they have this thing and she's lying

559
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: about the time the class starts, in the signing and

560
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: the parking lot job, and then she shows up an

561
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: hour early and in their ready and it's all just

562
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: do me a favor. Okay, since since do me a favor,

563
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: take me back to how it went off the rails again.

564
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: I thought these two were they were, but then remember

565
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: Tristan asked out Rory, and even though Rory never said yes,

566
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: that the die was cast there, we're still even though

567
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: Rory's like, dude, I didn't say yes. I wasn't gonna

568
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: go to the PJ. Harvey concert. I just don't know

569
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: how anybody is that unforgiving or that crazy because she

570
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: because she knows that Rory is ultimately the competition. Rory

571
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: is the only one that can knock Paris offer the

572
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: smartest Rory. Rory is irresistible. She is not a threatening presence.

573
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: She is not a threatening person. She's a sweet person

574
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: who wants to make friends with everybody. The parking lot

575
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: was one thing. The max assignment was brutal, Like making

576
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: this kid interview the guy that the mom just called

577
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: it off with. That was the smart move because it

578
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: actually it just kept everything she did, kept making Rory

579
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: look like she was more mature, more special. I mean,

580
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: it was just it's that I'm shocked that the character

581
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: of Paris, who had some dimensionality and some depth and

582
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: has now become completely one dimensional. And I'm I'm sorry

583
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: to see it. That's that's what I am. Um. I'm

584
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: kind of in mourning over that, because I do like

585
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: the character. I do love the character of Paris, and

586
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: I think she's hysterically funny, and Liza Wheel is a

587
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: very gifted actress. But what she's given, I think, really

588
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: is lacking. I mean, it's one thing to really want

589
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: to build up Rory and get everybody on Rory side,

590
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: but it's another thing to sacrifice the character of Paris.

591
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: And this way, I mean, she's not uh, I mean,

592
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: she's beyond rehab at this point. You know, It's like,

593
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: how low can she demonstrate that she is able to

594
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: go to destroy another person before we just dismiss her

595
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: as a character, and she's like she's turning into a cartoon.

596
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: And I don't like it. I think it. I think

597
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: it's imbalanced in the series. I think her character isn't

598
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: good enough to be in the series anymore, and I

599
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: want to see another character emerge that takes her out.

600
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: She's now ripe to be taken out of the series

601
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: because I don't know if she's wanted or necessary anymore.

602
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: It's like it's becoming kind of a joke. So again,

603
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: I have the problem of knowing what happens. So don't

604
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: tell me. I won't. I think, yeah, it'll be interesting

605
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: to see how you your opinion of her evolves as

606
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: she continues, because she's not leaving. I'm not gonna, you know,

607
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: there's no right, So I think it'll be interesting if

608
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: you start to like her more. Yeah, I don't care

609
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 1: how many of these little sort of puppy dog moments

610
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: she has, like really really and then she softens and

611
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: but now she's faking it. She did that to Rory,

612
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: deceiving her about the assign But what I think what

613
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: she looks, she's pure evil. She doesn't get is it

614
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: always backfires on her because think about it, she assigns

615
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: the parking lot story, and then the teacher talks about

616
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: how amazing the parking lot story is. So it's like

617
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: it is cartoonish in the sense that everything she tries

618
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: well foiled again do you know what I mean, Ay,

619
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: you were saying tip for tat, I felt like the

620
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: parking lot of time. I was like, oh, and then

621
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: she did it well and I was like, oh, and

622
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: then Paris comes back with the interview and I was like, oh,

623
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: Riley make a great point, like oh she got you.

624
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: Oh no, she got you, Oh she got you. She

625
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: So I think, especially as you think about it, for

626
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: young women watching this show, or like a lot of

627
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: people watch this as tweens and teens, the whole thing

628
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: is kind of amusing. You know, maybe they see it

629
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: in a different way, but I mean, clearly, at this

630
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: point in Paris is outmatched. Even though she has all

631
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: the power at the Franklin, she is outmatched. She is

632
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 1: dealing with somebody who is smarter, who is far more

633
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: emotionally mature, and who you know, kind of hangs out

634
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: with with Mahatma Gandhi text and knows how to center

635
00:37:53,360 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: herself and breathe and not react. And and Tristan, for example,

636
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: has the crush on Rory. It's like everything Pairs wants,

637
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: Rory keeps getting and every time she tries to foil

638
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: her it failed. So it's like, right, she should just

639
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: become a nice person. But I don't know when a

640
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: character becomes so predictable, it just becomes boring. Um, just

641
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: stay tuned. But because it will. Do you think we're

642
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: gonna get some emails about this? I don't think so.

643
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: I have more interested I do think people have opinions

644
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 1: about Pairs, but I'm more interested about the fight. If

645
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: people think Luke went too far as you do, or

646
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: if they think it was justified. I'm very curious about

647
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: how people will feel about I did not like him

648
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: getting territorial to that degree in that moment, but I

649
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: guess that just shows the imperfection of people in the

650
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: imperfection of characters and motions are un high in these situations.

651
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: And how would you know, Laurel, I react in a

652
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 1: similar situation with Rory, But Rory is not a script.

653
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: You'd never do anything like that. We're dealing with. You're

654
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: dealing with a young boy who's confused and angry and

655
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: hurt um who just is just kind of dumping on everybody,

656
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: grabs a beer and goes outside. I mean it's like, really,

657
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: it's like Luke's gift to my family. Oh thanks Luke,

658
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: thanks for bringing him over. But he has to and

659
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: she invited them. I see what you're saying, and you're

660
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: being very like, she's got to protect your daughter. I'm

661
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: blowing him like if I'm Laurel, I I'm not letting

662
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: that kid near my daughter. She's going to have a

663
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: lot of say in that. I think I would say

664
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: to Luke, you know, and retort to his in response

665
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: to his well you were sixteen. You said, listen, pal,

666
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: you're the one that brought this psycho into my house.

667
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: So not only do you get out, take him with

668
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: you and don't come back. I mean, it was it

669
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: was getting to that level, yes, But here's the whole

670
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: point of that. Now you two are in cahoots and

671
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: agreeing and trying to save Jess, which is going to

672
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: make the both of you more stressed out. As Rory

673
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: and Jeff develop this friendship relationship, we're just setting it

674
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: all up perfectly. What He's got enough stress in her life?

675
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: What does she need to join forces with Lord Luke

676
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: to save this kid? Why? What? How much energy and

677
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: free time does she have in her life? She's at

678
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: the independence end right, working her tail off, She's dealing

679
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: with all this other stuff, being a great friend everybody.

680
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: And now listen to me defending this woman. I'm telling

681
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: you you better be ready again, because but she's got

682
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: her she's got to keep her daughter on the straight. Now,

683
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: she's going through all this garbage with the cartoon Paris

684
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: now and you know, trying to draw her into a

685
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: comic strip. I'm not gonna have control over it because Jess,

686
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: we already see it. We already see now this Rory

687
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: is intrigued by Jess. Maybe this is just normal stuff

688
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: that all parents deal with, and this is just a

689
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: situation that all parents deal with. Yeah, and Jess is

690
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: just an extreme. But here's my unanswered question. Didn't Jess

691
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 1: steal the bridge money? Of course he did, I'm clear

692
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: on that. I think you know what I have to disqualify.

693
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: I have to um recuse myself from this because I

694
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: think I know the answer to this. He does did

695
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: steal the gnome obviously, Beyah, I don't think he steals this.

696
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't think he did either. Yeah, I think it

697
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: comes out that he didn't. I agree with that kind

698
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: of thing. He would steal because he would steal a gnome.

699
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: He wouldn't steal money. But what's why steal a gnome?

700
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: Because he saw it on Babette's lawn? And what the

701
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: hell is that clowney gnome? We have a surprise guest

702
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: for you in the waiting room. Oh, it's a surprise guest.

703
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: Surprise ish, Yeah, okay, is he ready or we are?

704
00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 1: Do you want me to tell you a little about

705
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: him dating for people with equal eyes? When the boy

706
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: Scouts at the very beginning of the episode, I guess

707
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: there are boy scouts cub scouts there with Taylor come

708
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 1: into the diner and they have the scene with you.

709
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: One of those scouts is Kendall Schmidt, who later went

710
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: on to become huge in Big Time Rush, like huge

711
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: on Nickelodeon's Big Time Rush, Like touring the country playing

712
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: music with three other guys. Well, when he was like

713
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: a little little kid, a little tiny guy, and there

714
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: he was a little kid with Big Time Rush. How old.

715
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: Was he a big time rush? Probably in his teens,

716
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: early twenties maybe, But here are teenagers. He's touring the

717
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: world with this. Is it a rock band? Is it

718
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,479
Speaker 1: a boy band? Yeah, it's a boy band. Yeah, he'll

719
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: tell you all about it. He'll tell you that. But yeah,

720
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: he's just a little guy. And there he was, so

721
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: we spotted it. And here he is for you, is

722
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: right here this guy, this little guy who became a

723
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: huge international star. Wait a minute, are you saying? Look

724
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 1: at the picture you're sending me a picture of this guy.

725
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: He's another handsome dude. All right, we're gonna take a

726
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be back with Kendall Schmidt, who

727
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: I can't wait to meet and talk to ye. All right, everybody,

728
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: we're back and we have a very special guest. There

729
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: are springing on me this this very handsome dude. He's

730
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: a dude. He looks like a dude. He looks like

731
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: a salty dude. And Kendall Schmidt, and there he is.

732
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: There's the guy. There he is. Dude, Where did I

733
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: come in the Kansas? All right, how are you doing?

734
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: Nice to meet you, Kendall. Good to meet you, or

735
00:43:55,640 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: meet you meet you after all those years. It a

736
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: lot's changed, all that growling up. You're done, right, Look

737
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: I have facial hair now too, which is Look that

738
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: time has flown by. Oh my god, are you still

739
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: in your twenties? No? Actually one? Oh man, yeah, I'm

740
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: over the hill. Wow. And you and so you were

741
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: you were the first kid. You were the tall kid

742
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: in the boy Scout thing and you were the first

743
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: kids kid number one, I think that was. I have

744
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: notes here, Season two, episode five, right, and you were

745
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: like eleven ten? Well I probably would have been ten

746
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: or eleven. Yeah, what wow? This is this is trip

747
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: all right. So so I have some notes here myself,

748
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: and I want to ask you some questions, okay, because

749
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: the fans really want to know this stuff. So you

750
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: began your acting career at the age of five. How

751
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: did you get into acting? Well, you know, um, people

752
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: talk about that that they were thing into their career.

753
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just the way of saying it. But

754
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: I mean I was a kid, so I was really

755
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: just having fun. It seemed like a cool way to

756
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: have a good time. My oldest my two older brothers

757
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: got into acting. Believe it or not. In Wichita. Um,

758
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: there was a healthy print market in Wichita. So there's

759
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: a lot of photos actually still at CBS. You know

760
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: when you buy a picture frame and there's like the

761
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: stock picture in the picture frame. Some of those photos

762
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: me my brothers. So, uh, we did that in Wichita,

763
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: and then, uh, you know it's like the progression from

764
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: that was which take to New York. And then they said,

765
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: if you really want to take this seriously, you guys

766
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: have go out to l A. So then my mom

767
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: and my two brothers and I and Dad was paying

768
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: the bills the whole time. So I got to give

769
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: him so much credit for that. We went out to

770
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: l A and pursued the dream. And then now I'm

771
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: the only one left in l A actually, so I

772
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: still lived there and everyone else has moved on. And uh,

773
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: it's been what a crazy ride, and between when I

774
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 1: met you and now quite the ride. Wow. So your brothers,

775
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: your brothers moved out and they go back to Kansas,

776
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: so they spread out a little bit. So no, my

777
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: my oldest, my oldest brother, when he was like seventeen,

778
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: decided to go to college. Um, and then he ended

779
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: up becoming a lawyer, which is pretty great. Um. And

780
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: then my middle brother and I Kevin. We stayed out

781
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: in l A for a little bit longer. We did

782
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: some more stuff, and then he actually is working for

783
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: Calvert County in Maryland, which is where I am right now. Um,

784
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: and uh, he's loving it. So I came to have

785
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: like an early Thanksgiving because we have rehearsals for Big

786
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: Time Rush coming up, and I just didn't want to

787
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: try to squeeze in a little family visit in between.

788
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: So here I am. So you're still doing Big Time Rush. Yeah,

789
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: So we took a let's see, we were active from

790
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: two thousand nine to two thousand fourteen. End of two

791
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: thousand thirteen. Um. And then I've continued doing stuff with

792
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: my band, have fron Drive and work solo music. Um.

793
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: And we recently decided to get the band back together. Actually,

794
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: right at the beginning of the pandemic, we were talking

795
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: about this and then everything hit and we were like, Okay,

796
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: I guess we'll have to take a minute and figure

797
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: out how we're going to do this. But yeah, we're

798
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: we have our first shows coming up. Actually, Oh that's exciting,

799
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: it's really exciting. All right, Well, we'll get to that.

800
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to the band stuff because I'm a

801
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: band guy too and write songs. I'm all about that.

802
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I could talk about I could have another

803
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: podcast actually have set lists here, potential set lists that

804
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: we were just having a phone call about that in front.

805
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: I do that too. This is the set lit the

806
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: set list structure and alchemy is an ongoing challenge. It really,

807
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: really really I love it though. I love figuring it out. Um.

808
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: But anyway, we'll we'll get to all that stuff. But

809
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: let's let's do the Gilmore thing. How do you get

810
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 1: the part? Do you remember the process? I mean, you know,

811
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: at that time, it was like, um, I was having

812
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: four or five auditions a day, and it was interesting.

813
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: I think if I remember correctly, that was after I mean,

814
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: long story short, it was an audition, um, And I

815
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: remember I used to I used to love going to

816
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: auditions at w B because I lived really nearby on

817
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: Heron Drive, which is right by Vaughan's on Past Avenue.

818
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know where that is, and so I

819
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 1: used to love it. I used to ride my scooter

820
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: to w B to go to auditions with. My mom

821
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: had a scooter as well, so we would ride the

822
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: razors together and go to go to these auditions that

823
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: they were nearby, UM, and booked it and then ended

824
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: up with you guys on set just like that. Nice. UM.

825
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: So what do you remember about that first day on set?

826
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking about this. Actually I had

827
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: worked on other things before and and then after, but

828
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: it reminded me thinking back on it. I remember seeing

829
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: how like you guys were very well oiled machine. I'm

830
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: sure you might have a different and he might be like, well,

831
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: it was actually chaotic. M to me, it was a

832
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: well oiled machine. And then fast forward to when I

833
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,479
Speaker 1: was on my own show, and I just remembered how

834
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: nice you guys were to everybody, because it's different, you know,

835
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 1: when you're coming on as a guest or just as

836
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: a bit part on a show and you're working with

837
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: everyone who has been together for years and they've been

838
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: you know, they've got the Stanley. You kind of feel like,

839
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: oh am, I coming in on the Stanley Dynamic whatever.

840
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: But you guys were so sweet to everybody. And then

841
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:30,959
Speaker 1: I remembered that when I was on my own show,

842
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: I had guest stars coming on the show, and I

843
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: I felt like returning to the kindness, you know, so

844
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: We've actually had a big impact on me. Yeah. We

845
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: we want to make everybody feel comfortable. We know how

846
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: accimidated some people, even even veterans, like Broadway veterans coming

847
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: on when they realized the pace of the dialogue. They

848
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: don't realize that sometimes when they come on set and

849
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: then the director yelled action, and then after a first

850
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: couple of takes, the director goes, you know, you're you

851
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: need to speed it up. In the actors like, I

852
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: remember that I'm doing as fast as I can. What

853
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Speed up? Well, what's got to

854
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: be a lot faster, And then they'd start to sweat. So,

855
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: you know, we wanted to provide the the most nurturing

856
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: and welcoming set we possibly could because we knew the

857
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: challenges that everybody would face that was coming in that

858
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: wasn't used to that pace. And and by the way,

859
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: I have had auditions for stuff since then, and they

860
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: used the pace of Gilmore Girls as an example. Yep,

861
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: always yeah, similar Gilmore Girls pace. And I'm like, okay,

862
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: all right, you know not a problem have done that?

863
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: Said that Dragon, Um, how many times did you have

864
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: to film that diner scene with Taylor? How many takes.

865
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: Did you do find a guess? I mean it wasn't

866
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 1: all that many. I don't remember what the camera setup

867
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: was like. Was it just single cam? Did you guys

868
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: have to getting coverage on stuff? Um? No, I think

869
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: we kept it pretty wide on you guys. Yeah, I

870
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: mean you just we just sort of you come in,

871
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: we kind of falling. I think it was a steady

872
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: cam shot. I think Steve was on the steadicam uh

873
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: and he just sort of, you know, settled on you

874
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: guys when you landed and did that's the dialogue with

875
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: the Taylor and Laurel. Well, you might be able to

876
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: tell me better. I mean, I feel like we didn't

877
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: do that many takes because of the case of the

878
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: show in general. You know, I don't think they allocated

879
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: a lot of time for stuff like that. It's like, yeah,

880
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: you guys kind of nailed it anyway. So it was

881
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: like there was so much to do that day. So

882
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: do you remember hanging out with any of the other

883
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: boy scouts that day? I mean, you were a little

884
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: older than what they were. What would you guys hung

885
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: out and play around? It's funny, I don't have there's

886
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: like specific memories from when you're like under a certain age,

887
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: you know, it's like under under. I used to think

888
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: this was funny when I would ask my grandparents about, oh,

889
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: do you remember what was your high school graduation like

890
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: or whatever? My grandma would be like, I remember, you know,

891
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: And I used to think that was crazy because it

892
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: to me it was like, well, that's such a significant moment.

893
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: But I mean, there's only so much you can remember.

894
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: And I just the thing that really stuck with me,

895
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: like I mentioned before, was how how nice everybody was

896
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: at the pace of it was something that really stuck

897
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: with me. Um. And also the professionalism you guys had

898
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 1: something that I took with me and and I don't

899
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: think I've actually ever talked to any of the other

900
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: boy scouts again. Unfortunately, Well they're lost, right, I don't know.

901
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 1: I'm sure, you know what, there's probably a doctor, there's

902
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: probably a lawyer in there somewhere, so I'm sure they're

903
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: doing they're great. Alright, right, Um, so you did you

904
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: returned in season three? How did did you just get

905
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: an offer to come back? I mean I think I

906
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: did at that point. Yeah, that was just like, oh, well,

907
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: hey he was here before he did all right, Um,

908
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: application anxiety alright, Season three, episode three, right, and we

909
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: chatted at the chatted about it at the bar. Okay,

910
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: and you and I, Yeah we did. We had we

911
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: had a scene together. I think we did pretty sure.

912
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: All right, Well we'll get to that. I mean, I

913
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: might be mixing up episodes as well, though. Um, you

914
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: know what, I had an impression to you that was

915
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this. I was wondering if you

916
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: were playing a character or not, because you kind of

917
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: just kind of seemed like this was you a little bit,

918
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: you know, you know, and I didn't know you as

919
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: a person, so I wouldn't know what you're off, you know,

920
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: off stage personality. But I always remember actually that part

921
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: in general, for you know, it was seemed like it

922
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: was a fun role to play because it was it

923
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: was a real guy, you know, a real guy I'm

924
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: like so many other characters. It seemed like it was

925
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: so much fun. And the wardrobe must have been great.

926
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: In fact, you got to wear a ball happened, didn't

927
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: have to spend any time in hair and makeup at all.

928
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, no, that was yeah. I was in

929
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: character of the whole time I was there. I never

930
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: I never broke character except at lunch. So I'm nothing.

931
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not really like that guy. So if

932
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: we were talking on set and stuff, you were kind

933
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: of still holding onto the character to keep to keep

934
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: it going because wow, interesting. Yeah, you know, that's just

935
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: kind of how I work. And and I just he

936
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: was so difficult to play. He was so tough to

937
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: stay in character. Um that I just, you know, it

938
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: was the only choice I had. Well, what would you

939
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: describe because his character is difficult in the way that

940
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: he he's very tight, and he's very you know, he's

941
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: just he's repressing, repressing so many of emotions and it

942
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: all comes out as anxiety and a little bit of

943
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: anger and edginess and impatience and all that. It's just

944
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: it's tough to play. It's tough for me to play that. Yeah.

945
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: And I when I auditioned for it, it was just

946
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: it was just sort of easy and breezy, you know,

947
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: you know, but um, I don't know. I guess I

948
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: fell in and out of it very easily during the audition.

949
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: Because I went to another audition I had to be

950
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: complete opposite right after that. Um yeah, yeah, I know.

951
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: That was that was that was definitely. And well, I

952
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: had a similar but dissimilar experience with with Big Time

953
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: Rush because that show, Uh, I don't. I don't think

954
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: it was any specific decision. It just kind of happened

955
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: where they used our same first names as the characters.

956
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: And so I've been dealing with that a lot, where

957
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: at least it's convenient when people go, hey, Kendall, I'm like, well, yeah, um,

958
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: sure that's me. Um. But we were and you you

959
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: can so many people have asked you this. We were

960
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: still playing characters as much as it seems like in

961
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: the first names are similar to our first names are

962
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: the same. I was like, well, I mean yeah, I'm

963
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: not as an extreme of an animated guy as as

964
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: that character was. But the good news is is when

965
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 1: people call me by my character name, they're really actually

966
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: just called me by my name. So it's kind of

967
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 1: nice in that way. You know What's interesting? I did

968
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: I didn't e P about four years ago, and one

969
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: of the songs uh kind of went viral on the

970
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: indie rock charts, right. So, but the way the producer

971
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: mixed it and produced a song and made my voice

972
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: sound I heard, I saw a character. It was the

973
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: only the only so and it was like that was

974
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: not me, it was somebody else. And it pleased me

975
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: so much because it was like, oh, I can fall

976
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: into that character because that character can sing that song

977
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: and it's not me singing that song. It also made

978
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: me realize that, man, was I really late to the

979
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: party and maybe this wasn't gonna work out because that's

980
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: a much younger character, you know. Um um, but it's interesting.

981
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: It's interesting how you approach you know, a song, a

982
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: you know, an acting piece. It's all kind of the same.

983
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: You know, if you can get into a character, you know,

984
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: then it becomes like you know how Bowie used to

985
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: do it, I mean, changing characters. You know, it's like

986
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: this sort of one man show, ongoing one man show anyway. Um,

987
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: very interesting. So so what was your first appearance like, uh,

988
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: compared to the second time you were on Gilmore Girls,

989
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: obviously you were probably a little less nervous. Yeah, oh man,

990
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: I was just a lot less nervous as a kid. Anyway,

991
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: It's amazing how I actually remember there was that there

992
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: was a weird, awkward moment of being a team where

993
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: suddenly I was way more self aware and going to

994
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: auditions was an absolute nightmare, you know. Uh. In fact,

995
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,479
Speaker 1: it was a miracle that I booked Big time Rush

996
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: because I was still in that zone. Um. Back then,

997
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: I it's just a kid, you know, having fun. I

998
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: mean it really wasn't. I remember that you had to

999
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: do your three hours of school, um, which I always

1000
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: kind enjoyed actually because there was a time limit and

1001
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: we didn't have to do it all day. Um. And

1002
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: and uh, you know it's one of those getting the

1003
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: words you got. It's very fast paced. So I just

1004
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: remember being like, okay, hey, you're up. You know, here

1005
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: we go block the scene a little bit, run it. Um.

1006
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: It was very it was very uh totally new experience

1007
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: for me because up to that point I had done

1008
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: other things, but that was the first like whoa, this

1009
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: is a this is a show. You know, these guys

1010
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: have have episodes to complete and everything, and I didn't

1011
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: you know, realize how that was until being on my

1012
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: own show. You know. So so so here's yeah, so

1013
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: here here's something I'm really interested. So you know you

1014
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: have been on you know, the E R S, the Frasier's,

1015
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: the c S, I MI Miami is to fill the Future,

1016
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,479
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. What do you like more?

1017
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: Do you like the singing more or do you like

1018
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: the acting more? Well, I like the singing more because

1019
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: I don't have to audition for it. You know. Um,

1020
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: if if if people were calling me like, hey, dude,

1021
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: we got this great script, you know, it would be

1022
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: a different I'd be like, yeah, let's go right. But

1023
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, the business, the business was hard and it's

1024
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: still hard. So being a singer and now at least

1025
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: having a sort of a group of people that have

1026
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: already you know, come on board from being a big

1027
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: time Russian all that stuff that makes it a lot

1028
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: easier just to be a singer. And you put out

1029
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: a song, you get a reaction. Uh you know, people say,

1030
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: oh I love it down you know, they downloaded, they

1031
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: let's stream it. And then you go on tour and

1032
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: you play you get the immediate reaction. So, um, I

1033
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: think just for that reason, I like doing music more.

1034
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: But it's only because acting is tough. You know, it's

1035
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: a lot it's a lot more difficult, even just to

1036
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 1: get to the part where you're on the camera, you know, right, Yeah,

1037
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. Anyway, let's get into

1038
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: your now, we can get into your your big Time Rush, right,

1039
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: we can get into this stuff. So you so you

1040
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: start from two thousand thirteen Big Time Rush. What was

1041
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: it like? You know, put put us, put us there,

1042
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: put us in. Tell us what it was like to

1043
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: be a part of Nickelodeon during that time. Uh So

1044
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: at that time, I feel like Nickelodeon was like in

1045
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: a Heyday. And for me, um, growing up, I loved Nickelodeon.

1046
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: Like I used to watch Global Guts, I used to

1047
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: watch Regular Guts. I used to watch Double Dare Double

1048
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: Dare two thousand, all those great game shows that Nickelodeon had,

1049
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: which I was just such a big fan of those shows,

1050
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: and then of course all that all of the actual

1051
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: TV shows that they had. So when I got to book,

1052
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: when I booked the show, which we don't have to

1053
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: go into the whole audition process, but it was difficult

1054
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: and and involved like a boy band boot camp to

1055
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: see who could be to boy band and also act

1056
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: on television show. But um, when I got I just

1057
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: felt like it was the coolest thing ever because it

1058
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: was like, wow, Um, I can't believe I'm on this

1059
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: network that I used to like obsess over. And I

1060
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: always wanted to win a Kid's Choice Award. We ended

1061
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: up winning many of them, and um, it just was

1062
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: like so much fun. But also I'll never forget the

1063
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: night before the network the final audition, because we had

1064
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: had a couple of things before that, not even callbacks,

1065
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: but that sort of boy band boot camp thing had

1066
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: already happened. And I remember I've being at my brother's

1067
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: place and I started crying and he was like, what's

1068
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: going on? And I was like, Um, I don't know.

1069
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just scared, you know. I was like,

1070
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: I feel like this either could be nothing, you know,

1071
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: it could be like a one off season and that's it.

1072
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: It could totally fail, or it could be like the

1073
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: next however many years of my life. And so I

1074
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: was kind of like I didn't even know that I

1075
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: was ready for that responsibility. So man, it was a

1076
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: big learning experience and and it wasn't just to show

1077
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: the fact that it broke into performing live and you know,

1078
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: doing tours and everything. It really became our whole life.

1079
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: It was every day for five years at least. So

1080
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: what it was it was wild. How big did it? Again?

1081
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: I mean what kind of how big were the audiences. Um,

1082
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: So as far as the TV show goes, we know,

1083
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm talking about the tour tour. Well, it

1084
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: started at it started at the first show we ever

1085
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: did was a random radio show in Henderson, Nevada that

1086
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: was a small little thing, and then quickly evolved to

1087
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: selling out theaters. And then the next tour we sold

1088
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: out amphitheaters. Okay, so you went from like a couple

1089
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: of thousand, couple of thousand to five thousand every night,

1090
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: so you were doing arenas, arena well amphitheater sized arenas

1091
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: and arenas. So the tour, depending on what the venue

1092
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: was and where the location was, we would either do

1093
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: a giant amphitheater that could hold seventeen thousand, or we

1094
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: would do an arena that would hold thirteen thousand or

1095
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: something like that. And we played bigger shows for like

1096
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: one off things like we opened for Justin Bieber. One

1097
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: of our first shows was opening for Justin Bieber in Mexico,

1098
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: and I think that was six six or seventy thousand people. Um,

1099
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: and uh, we played at the Houston Rodeo, which is

1100
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: actually a really great show to play. That's like almost

1101
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand people as many of the stadium holds,

1102
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: so I mean, yeah, it was. It was wild. Our

1103
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: Amphitheater tour was probably my favorite one because it was

1104
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: every night it was like thousand people sold out all

1105
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: the way to the back, you know amphitheaters. They just

1106
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: looked so cool with the lawn in the back and

1107
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: everyone camped out. It's just like an endless sea of people. Um, yeah,

1108
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: I mean it was. We we played huge sold out

1109
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: Jones Beach twice on one of our tours, and and yeah,

1110
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: it was. It was wild. And so that lasted for

1111
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: how long I want to say we did three or

1112
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: four full tours because we we could only do them

1113
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: in between the seasons. UM. And that's what was kind

1114
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: of crazy about it was we would we filmed Monday

1115
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: through Friday, UM, and then on the weekend we would

1116
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: either do dance rehearsal if there was something on the

1117
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: next episode, or we would do recording for uh the

1118
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: songs that we used in the show. So seven days

1119
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: a week, and then as soon as that was done,

1120
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: we would rehearse for tour, go on tour, come back,

1121
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: have like maybe a week off, and then get back

1122
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: into the show again. And it was a really wild adventure,

1123
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 1: very busy. Yeah, I mean we used to. We used

1124
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: to joke about it, like people would say, so, what

1125
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: do you guys do? Like in an interview, they'd say,

1126
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: what are you guys doing a day off? Would be like, uh,

1127
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: what is that word? You know? How do you say that?

1128
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: You know? Um, But obviously, you know, looking back and

1129
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: when you're in the heat of the moment, I don't

1130
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: know if you felt this on your show, because you

1131
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: guys did so many seasons and stuff, but you know,

1132
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: there's times we were like, this is hard, you know. Uh,

1133
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: And then if you look back on it from you know,

1134
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: thirty feet you go, well, it's really fun. You know.

1135
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: Obviously the whole it was fun, but they're even fun

1136
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,439
Speaker 1: things have their fair share of challenges. You know. Were

1137
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: you were you guys riding around on private chats we

1138
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: did a couple of times. A couple of times we

1139
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: that wasn't our main mode of transportation, but we went.

1140
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: We were on tour of uses most of the time.

1141
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: And actually for one birthday, my twenty one birthday. This

1142
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: is a fun story. Um, we played we did Worldwide

1143
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: Day of Play, which was a Nickelodeon event. Uh, getting

1144
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: kids to move like getting kids to be outside and

1145
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: move around. We played that show and then we were

1146
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: having uh like after the show, we were at the

1147
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: hotel and all of the Nick executives were there. We

1148
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: all became very friendly with the Knick executives because they

1149
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: were very much involved in our show. I think it

1150
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: was kind of like a pet project for them. And

1151
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: uh Seema who was the president nickelode at the time,

1152
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: and Paula who was vice president. We're talking and I

1153
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you know my birthday, we're gonna go

1154
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: to Vegas, I think you know, and they were like, wow,

1155
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: like you guys should come there, Like, no, you don't

1156
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: want us at your birthday? And oh, you're probably right. Um,

1157
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: and then Semas said, well, you know that might be

1158
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: a good time to uh if you like, we could

1159
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: you could use the Viacom jet and go to Vegas

1160
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: on your birthday. I was like, okay, sure, you know,

1161
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: and then we ended up doing um the national anthem

1162
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: because my birthday is on the second. We ended up

1163
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: doing the national anthem at the Thanksgiving Day game UM

1164
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: in Dallas, and sure enough at the Dallas Airport, this

1165
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,439
Speaker 1: Viacom's private jet and after the show, we took all

1166
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: of our crew, we all loaded up, we all flew

1167
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 1: to Vegas. They kept the jet there for three days

1168
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 1: while we had the Veggas festivities, and then put us

1169
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: back to l A. Man, Now, I know how much

1170
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: that costs, you know, I can thus. Yeah, I can't

1171
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: even believe they did that. I mean, what would it.

1172
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: Well know, for all of you, it's like, that's like,

1173
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: you know, it's tens of thousands, that's like, and to

1174
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: hold the plane in Vegas for that many days. But

1175
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: you know, well that was one of three VI comjects,

1176
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: So I think they were like, well that this one's

1177
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: parked over, you know, let's just use that one. That'll

1178
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: be fine. Oh man, listen, buddy, I could talk to

1179
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: you all day. We don't even feel we haven't even

1180
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: scratched the surface of what I want to talk to

1181
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: you about. But um, you know there is I want

1182
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: to I do want to mention this though before we

1183
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: before we say goodbye. Um, there is going to be

1184
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: a reunion performance of Big Time Rush Your Band, which

1185
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: include the Chicago the Chicago Theater in Illinois on December,

1186
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: followed by December eighteenth show at the Hammerstein Ballroom in

1187
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: New York, legendary Hammerstein Ballroom. That's exciting for you guys.

1188
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 1: So that's what you're that's what you're boning up for,

1189
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: right these two gigs. This is why I'm here visiting

1190
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: family now because it's gonna be three weeks of rehearsals

1191
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: coming up. And you know, there's just a lot more

1192
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: in the pipeline for big time rush um. And to

1193
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: take a song title of one of ours, we're just

1194
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: getting started. That's spirit that just came to me right

1195
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: off the top of my head. That's that's the magic.

1196
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: You never know what is going to happen, but in

1197
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: your case, probably a lot. Right, So listen, you guys

1198
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,759
Speaker 1: gonna play l A. Let me know, let let us know, okay,

1199
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: and we'll call you if we're paying at the show.

1200
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 1: Oh man, I want to be there. I want to

1201
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 1: see you guys. I want to support you. Man. I

1202
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 1: just I love musicians, like just songwriters and musicians just

1203
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: they're my favorite people. And you know what, we should

1204
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: hang out sometime, man, when this is all over with,

1205
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: we should get an apartment together. Let's do it. Let's

1206
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: do it. I'm just spitballing here, but I will say

1207
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: that my wife will be very happy. By the way,

1208
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 1: I was a kid, I found you to be the

1209
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: kind I was like, I think I want to hang

1210
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: out with that guy. It seems cool and it still

1211
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 1: rings true to this day. I can have my moments.

1212
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that. Later twenty years later. All right, man,

1213
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: what a pleasure meeting you and talking to you. I

1214
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: hope you can come back. We can do this again.

1215
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 1: Really get into the music side of things and really

1216
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: dig in um because that's what fascinates me about this

1217
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: whole thing. Anyway, Vable, let's chat. You are the man

1218
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: and becoming legend. I love this um. All right, buddy,

1219
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: thanks so much for coming on. Really enjoyed it. And

1220
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 1: good luck with the shows and uh and just and

1221
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 1: just go slight man, you know you can't. It's gonna

1222
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: be fun, all right, buddy, peace out, man, looks love

1223
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: good bye. That was so awesome. He is the coolest. Yeah,

1224
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: he's a cool guy. Right. They're huge too. They got huge,

1225
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: Like we did shows with them and it was kids

1226
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 1: went crazy for that, Like, wait a meet. I have

1227
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: an idea. We'll do a TV show. We'll like create

1228
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: a boy bend and then they'll go to Oh that's

1229
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:10,600
Speaker 1: a good promotional tool. Nickelodeon's a bunch of geniuses, so

1230
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 1: like you, we'll sell merch right, send, We'll sell t

1231
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: shirts at these kids face on it right, oh, NASA

1232
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: or television production. I mean it's not rocket science right now.

1233
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: All those guys, they are the sweetest like his personality is.

1234
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: He's so nice like and genuinely so grateful for being

1235
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 1: on Gilmour Girls, Midwestern kid kancers. Boy right, we should

1236
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: we take a break, and then should you drop your

1237
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 1: knowledge on us? Whose knowledge yours? Your big knowledge, your

1238
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: big secret, and you're big about gnomes. I don't know anythings.

1239
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: What do I look like? A normalogist? Not the thing

1240
01:10:55,000 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: you've been telling us about for days? Ah Uh. I

1241
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 1: don't know if it's time to drop it, but I'm

1242
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 1: gonna drop it anyway. I think Riley, you might be

1243
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: ready right now. You prepped break first with a lot

1244
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: of people. Don't worry about it. We're dropping bombs over

1245
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean some rory somehow. Riley knows about it. Sweet okay,

1246
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 1: and ready to take the breaks. Everybody get rid. Listen,

1247
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 1: I think we better. We made a mess of the place.

1248
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: Let's just bring some mops in and mop it up

1249
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: and we'll come back after these breaks. Yeah, alright, everybody,

1250
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: we're back. And I am in uh cahoots with Eastern

1251
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 1: our tech guy. But he was called off on assignment today.

1252
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: He's got some huge, top secret assignment. I don't know.

1253
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: He was sworn a secrets. He couldn't tell me what

1254
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 1: it is. We're very disappointed we don't have him on

1255
01:11:54,520 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: this show today. But uh, he has tasked Riley, who

1256
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: has been properly headed by all the appropriate agencies and

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Speaker 1: u and tested and she is now controlling the video here.

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Speaker 1: So Riley, why don't you queue up that first picture

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01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: because there's this quite a bombshell. Now, Amy, nothing about this.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell the truth. I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: I know we took great pains to keep this from you,

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Speaker 1: and trust me, you have eyes and ears everywhere. And

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01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: that was no task this. I think this is the

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Speaker 1: future episode and it's like maybe season three or all right,

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Speaker 1: So do you notice anything unusual about this photograph? Amy?

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking at a photo of the diner and

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Speaker 1: lor Lyon Rory at the counter and you and you're

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01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, you're the one that sort of sprung this

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01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: clown pillow thing on the world. Many fans beat you

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01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: to the punch, but you were stute enough to to

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01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: follow up on the clown the blue mug, and I

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01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 1: see the thing of muffins, and I see some people

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01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: in the background eating. Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's not okay.

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01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: I see where it says food in the window. I

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01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 1: see the curtains, I see the new shelves, I see

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01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 1: the catch up thing. I give you a hundred dollar

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Speaker 1: if you get it. Well, just give me a second,

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01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: give me a second. We're giving you plenty of it.

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Speaker 1: We're giving okay. I see the burgers and the fruit.

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01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: The blue mug should just tell you hold. I see

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01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: the grandpa in the background, and then there's a good grandma,

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01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: and then there's a couple. I need a hint, am

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01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 1: I should I be looking up towards the counter or

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01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: more in the back. I'm not telling you. Oh my god, guys,

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01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:01,640
Speaker 1: this is so stressful that should you reveal it or

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01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 1: should we put this on social and see if anyone else,

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01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 1: or should we just reveal it. I think we just

1288
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: reveal it, because you know, these Gilmore fans already know

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01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: this this is kind of a thing. Does it have

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01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 1: to do the catchup bottles? I'm not telling you. I'm

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01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 1: not giving any clues. I feel Riley and I are

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01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: being very generous with you, but even sure right, I

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01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 1: can see Riley's face like she fully knows. What's this

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01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: thing in the back? Here? See that chair? And there's

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01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 1: like a weird black thing in the window. What is that?

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01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 1: Is that it? What is that? What is that? Should

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Speaker 1: we do a warmer or colder? Yeah? Yeah, yeah? Can

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01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: you do that? Do is it near the muffins? I'll

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01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 1: leave just scoff. He wants to do a warmer colder

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01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 1: because I know this is warmer it happen? Does that

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01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: have to do with the muffins? Warmer? It's in the

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Speaker 1: m What is that weird creepy thing in the muffin?

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01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 1: Is it like a there's like a weird muffin that

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01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 1: looks like an alien muff All right, Riley, let's uh,

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01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 1: let's show her the picture. Oh my god, am I

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01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: am I close with the alien muffin? Let's show the

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01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: close up. Guys. This is crazy. I'm so stressed. I

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01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. Yes, so I was right,

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01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: there's alien muffin. That's Scooby Doo. So is there always

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01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 1: an alien muffin in the muffin? What would you call that?

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01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 1: Canister muffin? It's like an take plate, but it has

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01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 1: muffins are why is that one muffin? So whack? It

1313
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 1: looks like a snail muffin or bunny muffin and alien muffing.

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01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: That's Scooby Doo. That's a plastic figurine of Scooby Doo. Yes,

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01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. It looks like a bunny that's

1316
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 1: Scooby Doo. That's Scooby Doo. So is that in many episodes?

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01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 1: I believe that it is God. I believe that the

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01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,759
Speaker 1: prop guys had fun. They sure did, and I sort

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01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 1: of on it. It took me an hour. Sorry everybody,

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01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 1: thrilling for everyone listening. We but you did pretty good.

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01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna spot the Scooby Doo. We're gonna spot Yes,

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01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: now it's about the Scooby Doo in the dinner. It

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01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: looks like something from Men in Black to me, Riley, Yes, okay,

1324
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 1: pop culture? Is it time? Oh? Were ready for pop culture? Yeah?

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01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, so we're not. We have to discuss

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01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 1: the episode more. For God's sake, there's so much more,

1327
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: but we're running late. We might have to do a

1328
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: two parter because we were already late. What didn't we cover, Well,

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01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about Lane and she is looking for

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01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 1: her record collection, but maybe we'll cover that in pop culture.

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01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 1: I think we could have talked about Max more and

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01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: that's you know. Otherwise, I think we're we're getting there

1333
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,799
Speaker 1: right Amy. That was a perfect cueue for pop culture

1334
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 1: because we're gonna go right in and Lane has a

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01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: list for Rory to pick up at the record store

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01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 1: for her. Lane says, okay. Charles Mingus, the Black sat

1337
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 1: in the center, Lady the Sonics. Here are the Sonics,

1338
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 1: m C five kick out of the out of the

1339
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: James Fairport Convention, Lesion, leave BIG's Odessa. So we're gonna

1340
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: go through this. Charles mingus most famous song is Goodbye

1341
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 1: pork Pie Hat. The sonics top hit is the which

1342
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,799
Speaker 1: which was released in November nineteen sixty four and considered

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01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: a stepping stone in their career. M C five's they

1344
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: were mentioned in two thousand and one this episode, but

1345
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 1: their biggest hit song is Looking at You, which was

1346
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: originally created nineteen sixty eight and released in two thousand

1347
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: eleven on their most well known album. Back in the USA,

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01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: Fairport Convention is known for their song where the Time Goes,

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01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: released in nineteen sixty nine, and finally, the BIG's biggest

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01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: hit is dan Altt, released in nineteen seven. I had

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01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: heard of none of those bands than the Detroit While

1352
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,679
Speaker 1: you look that up, Riley, because I think Patti Smith

1353
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 1: married the guitar player Fred's Sonics Fred Sonics Smith from

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01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 1: MC five. My love of the BGS is strong and

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01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: I enjoy that. Lane added that into her repertoire because

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01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: everyone should have the b GS, and it kind of

1357
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 1: breaks my heart the only Berry is still around, but

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01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:31,639
Speaker 1: I do love the Begs. Lincoln Park, Michigan, MC five,

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01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 1: Lincoln Partment. Yeah, so that's yeah, That's that's yeah. Next,

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01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 1: Lorelai invites Jess and Luke to dinner. Lorea Li says,

1361
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 1: Suki will cook, Roy will be there, It'll be hey,

1362
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 1: welcome to stars Hollow and see everyone here who's not

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01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: straight out of the Flinny film kind of evening. Frederico

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01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 1: Fellini was an Italian film director and screenwriter known for

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01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: his distinctive style, which blends fantasy and baroque images with earthiness.

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01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 1: Some of Linny's films included Ginger and Fred Juliette of

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01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 1: the Spirits in Casanova. His love for theater started an

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01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 1: early age, prompting him to run away and join the

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01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 1: circus when he was only twelve years old. You know,

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01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 1: I think it's unfortunate that Fellini's name is synonymous with

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01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 1: conversations that people have trying to describe weirdos that they

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01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: have encountered in their lives, and they lacked the facility

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01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: to describe the weirdo um using their own words, so

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01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 1: they say something along the lines of like it's like

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01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: something out of there. There's something out of there, like

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01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 1: something out of a Fellini film, right right. That's that's

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01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:44,600
Speaker 1: the remembrance he gets most of the time, and he

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01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 1: changed cinema forever. This next one Jesse's Rory's collection of books,

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01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: and Jesse says, wow, aren't we hooked on phonics? I

1380
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: hooked on Phonics is a commercial brand of educational materials

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01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 1: originally designed for reading education through phonetics, and add said

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01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:03,799
Speaker 1: after learning only one eighteen minute music gold cassette, students

1383
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 1: can read a one page book money back guaranteed. It's

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01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 1: famous phone number one A hundred A B C D

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01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 1: E F G is now owned by a law firm.

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01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 1: That's wild. I was definitely hooked on phonics. I was

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01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 1: apparently didn't help for this as part of my career.

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01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 1: But jessin Marlee are fighting on the porch. Jess says,

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01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 1: you don't know anything about me or my life, or

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01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 1: my mom or Luke, So why don't you Dr Laura

1391
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 1: somewhere else? Laura's Lessing Juror, better known as Dr Laura,

1392
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 1: is an American talk radio show host and Dr Laura

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01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 1: holds multiple trophies from sailboat racing and a black belt

1394
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 1: in martial arts. Dr Laura is in the National Radio

1395
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame and she is still on the radio

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01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 1: to this day at the age of seventy, and she's

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01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 1: known for her tough love. Dr Laura always signs off

1398
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 1: her show with now go do the right thing. Sometimes

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01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 1: I find myself getting sucked into Dr Laura. Really, if

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01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,719
Speaker 1: you stumble upon it, yeah, didn't you say you? Riley?

1401
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,600
Speaker 1: When Ryan and I were talking her mom listens to

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01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: Doctor Laura and fun fact, I called Dr Laura for

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01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,839
Speaker 1: advice when I was ten or eleven? Could she answer?

1404
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: She definitely had tough love. I think I cried more

1405
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:23,679
Speaker 1: from her advice than you got on with doctor. I did. Yeah.

1406
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 1: I called her because I was like having a fight

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01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: with my friend at the time and I wanted some advice.

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01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 1: Do you have a tape of it? I don't think so, no,

1409
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 1: but we need to find that. Oh my god, what

1410
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 1: ten year olds like? You know what I'm gonna do?

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01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 1: We call Dr Laura. You you're the weirdest kid I was.

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01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,560
Speaker 1: I was definitely young. Yeah, I mean I told you

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01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 1: my mom's fantsay. She's like, why don't you call Dr Laura.

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01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: She didn't want to give me advice, she just wanted

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01:21:54,920 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 1: to Laura's talk to me. Anyways. He's right there, She's like,

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01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 1: She's like, just called Dr Laura. Rory is uncomfortable as

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01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 1: she is about to Rory is uncomfortable as she is

1418
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: about to interview Max. Rory says, sit, sure, that's good.

1419
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 1: Barbara Walter sits or walks sometimes if the person she's

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01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 1: talking to has a horse or a ranch or a

1421
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 1: big backyard sometimes, but usually she just sits. Barbara Jill

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01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 1: Walters is American broadcast call doctor Laura keep going. I

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01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 1: love Barbara Walters. I'm sorry. Barbara Jill Walters an American

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01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 1: retired broadcast journalist, author, and television personality. She only wears

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01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 1: one contact lens. While working with the other lens, she

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01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: can read the teleprompter, but with two she would not

1427
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,600
Speaker 1: be able to read her notes. Barbara is in the

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01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 1: Television Hall of Fame and actually has a star on

1429
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 1: the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Barbara is the mastermind behind

1430
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: the talk show The View. She put her together the

1431
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 1: initial panel of women, serving on it herself from until

1432
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 1: she retired into that and fourteen. She's alive today and

1433
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: ninety two years old, and two of her most famous

1434
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 1: interviews are Patrick Swayze when he revealed he had pancreatic

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01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 1: cancer and Obrah which she said was one of her

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01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 1: most emotional interviews. And finally, Barbara had a pre Oscar

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01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 1: special for twenty nine years. He still I used to

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01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: watch all those love it. Laura Lae is upset after

1439
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 1: talking with Jess on the porch. Laura Lee says, Luke says,

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01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 1: where as Jess Morrell says, outside working on his breakfast

1441
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 1: club audition, He's getting good. It's so true, he is

1442
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,759
Speaker 1: a bit Judd Nelson E. What was Jed Nelson's character,

1443
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 1: John Bender? Yes, this is the reference to John Bender

1444
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 1: on The Breakfast Club American Team Coming of age comedy

1445
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: drama film. Judd Nelson's clothes in the movie are the

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01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: outfit he auditioned in for the role of John Bender

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01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:56,839
Speaker 1: and the Dan drift. At that Allison Ali, sheety um

1448
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 1: shakes into her pencil drawings for snow was achieved by

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01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 1: sprinkling parmesan cheese in her head and it's not actually

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01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 1: her Dran Dandre. Of which people we should all remember

1451
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 1: that Judd Nelson's character does sort of make out with

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01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: Molly Ringwald's character, which would be the Rory a good girl.

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01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 1: That's a great connection. You can't I can't see Rory

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01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: and Ever ending up in detention. No, why did Molly

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01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 1: Ringwald end up in detention? Don't know. I don't remember.

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01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 1: She couldn't have been that good a girl. M Laura

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01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 1: la is telling Luke he should think about what he's

1458
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 1: doing before taking just in. Loralai says, yes, I respect that,

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01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 1: but what if he turns out to be freddo Frederico

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01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 1: core Leon is a fictional character in Mario Puzzo's nine

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Speaker 1: novel The Godfather. Freddo is played by John Cazale in

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Speaker 1: the nineteen seventy two classic film, and the early buzz

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Speaker 1: on this movie was so positive the sequel was planned

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01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: before the first film was even finished filming. The cast

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01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 1: had rehearsal sessions that simply consisted of the main cast

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Speaker 1: sitting down in character for a family meal. And the

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Speaker 1: horsehead in the movie, which is very famous, wasn't a prop.

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01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: It was actually a real horsehead. Claire Molly Ringwald ended

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Speaker 1: up in detention because she cut class to go shopping,

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Speaker 1: So you're right, Rory would not do that, but sorry.

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01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 1: The morning after the fight, Rory and Laurel stand outside

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Speaker 1: of Luke's diner and Laura Lee says, Rory, this was

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Speaker 1: a bad one. Okay, this was not Nick and Nora.

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01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 1: This was Sid and Nancy and I'm not going in there,

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Speaker 1: which is also the name of the episode. So Nick

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01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 1: and Nora Charles are fictional characters. In the novel The

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01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 1: Thin Man, Nick is played by William Powell and Nora

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Speaker 1: by Myrna Lloyd Skippy, who played asked to the dog

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01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 1: bit Myrna Lloyd during filming in real life and going

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01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 1: over to Sid and Nancy also known as Sid and

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Speaker 1: Nancy Love Kills is six British film starring Gary Oldman

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Speaker 1: and Chloe Webb. According to Gary Oldman, he disliked the

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01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 1: script and dislike punk music, but he accepted the role

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01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 1: because of the salary, and so this is a reference.

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Speaker 1: Nick and Nora were very loving and pleasant together. Their

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Speaker 1: fights were more like conversations where Sid and Nancy would

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01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: curse and scream at each other. Laura Lee is asking

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01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: about Jess and what he's like. Loraa La says, well,

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01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: you might want to find out. Ask a couple of

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01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 1: subtle questions. You know, has he seen the Shawshank Redemption?

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01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:32,719
Speaker 1: The setting seemed homey to him. The Johank Redemption American

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01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: drama film starring Tim Robbins and Morgan Freeman. Stephen King

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01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 1: never cashed his royalty check for five thousand dollars for

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Speaker 1: rights to the film. Several years after the movie came out,

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01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 1: King got the check framed and mailed it back to

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Speaker 1: the director with a note inscribed, in case you ever

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01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: need bail money, love Steve Uh. To prepare for the role,

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01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 1: Tim Robbins actually spent time in solitary confinement. He asked

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01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: to be locked in solitary for a while to get

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Speaker 1: the feel for it. That would be terrifying Morgan, Him

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01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 1: and Tim Robbins reunited in Zwa to Najo on Mexico's

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01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 1: West coast. Finally we have Rory asked what Luke's nephew

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01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 1: Jess is like, and loral I says, well, he's not

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01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 1: going to be subbing for the new Dodo on the

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01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: Regions show anytime soon. Let's put it like that. So,

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01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 1: Regis Philbin spent twenty eight years on the show from

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01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 1: three to two thousand and eleven. Even though re Just

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01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 1: became one of the most successful people in the history

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01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 1: of TV, it didn't start out that way. His first

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01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: national talk show lasted only about four months before cancelation.

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01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 1: Regis also appeared in a numerous UH movies and television

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Speaker 1: shows as himself, such as MS Congeniality, Cheaper by the Dozen,

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01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 1: Thirty Rocks Signed Filled, and Spin City. Sadly, re Just

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01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 1: passed away in eight years old, and his co host

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01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 1: over the years include Sarah Purcell, Cindy Garrett Garvey and Abernathy,

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01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 1: Cathy Lee and Kelly Rippa and that's it for your

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01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 1: pop culture is like one of the best movies of

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Speaker 1: all time. It really It's okay. I have two favorite lines.

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Speaker 1: We already know. My first one, I have no patience

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Speaker 1: for jam hands. I love this one. I am in

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Speaker 1: so far over my head, I can't see my hat.

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Speaker 1: Keep taking my lines. Sorry, I messed it up. Let

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Speaker 1: me read it better. I have been so far from

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Speaker 1: my head I can't see my own hat. And then

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01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 1: she says, just try turning it around. So when the

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01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 1: great line for you was her saying try turning it around, Well, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's the boat. It's you saying I'm in so far

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Speaker 1: o from my head, I can't see my own hat. Yeah,

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01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 1: that's the great line. No, but then it's for lie

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01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 1: being so subtle. Try turning it around because you wear

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Speaker 1: your hat back or I laughed out loud on that line.

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01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 1: I made myself laugh. I laughed so hard. But jam hands,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, jam hands. Mine was from Luke. He's

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01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 1: talking with Loria Lyon. He says, way around what this

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01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 1: is stars hollow, You take three left turns and you're

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01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 1: back to the center of town. It was quite an

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01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:14,839
Speaker 1: episode for all Luke, wasn't it. Really was. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna be three out of three and he's

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01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 1: going on to Hollywood. He's got my golden tacket town. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's a note for me, dog, give your line. I'm

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01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 1: sorry anyway. Um, Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. Look, I

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01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 1: don't pat myself on the back, but I'm gonna do it.

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01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 1: Now with the hatline, what do you say? I don't

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01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 1: even know what it is so far over my head,

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01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 1: I can't see my own hat. What do you say?

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01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm in so far over my head, I can't even

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01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 1: see my own hat. Yeah, and she's trying to turn

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Speaker 1: it around. Ye, that's I'm not now, that doesn't jam hands.

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01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 1: I have no patience for jam hands. It's all right,

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01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 1: it's a cute thing. Whatever. I didn't think it was

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01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 1: hysterically funny. It was fine. It's a good rant. But

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01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 1: now the hat thing was was funny. Maybe great episode

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01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 1: props to you, because great episode from Luke. Yeah he's mad.

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01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 1: I mean this is his, This was his episode, and

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01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 1: God bless my low so happy to have them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be interesting. I mean, it really is

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01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. How the season premiere weirdly to me,

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01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 1: even though it's not, it felt that big and good

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01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 1: and like this was this It almost feels like he

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01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 1: should have been involved in the from the beginning. Yeah,

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01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form, but he was in

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01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 1: the form of Dean correct, even though I'm still team Logan. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: And I think the the you know, the mythological multiheaded

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01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 1: dragon that is the the character that's going to try

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01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 1: to keep Rory out of Harvard is represents men all

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Speaker 1: of these fellows. Right, what is that character called in

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01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 1: Greek mythology? We're gonna have to call Kevin O'Leary to

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Speaker 1: find out. I don't know. I did read the Iliad

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Speaker 1: and the odds, how did I? But what's this? What's this?

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Speaker 1: Five headed dragon? Six headed dragon? What is that? What

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01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 1: the heck is that? Riley? And also what's next week's episode?

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Speaker 1: Next week's episode is episode six presenting Lore Like everybody,

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