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Speaker 2: just how dangerous are the rams? Asked the Minnesota Vikings
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Speaker 2: Operator Tyler sitting by people fired up about the Vikings
Speaker 2: moving forward? Are they moving forward with Sam Darnold or
Speaker 2: are they going to let him go free agency market?
Speaker 2: The Cowboys situation, they need a new head coach. Tim
Speaker 2: Callashaw Dallas Morning News columnists will join us here. Momentarily,
Speaker 2: Tim rode a column and he starts the column out
Speaker 2: by saying, Dak Prescott's season one, that began with an
Speaker 2: agreement that glorious morning in Cleveland that made him the
Speaker 2: highest paid player in NFL history, was his worst in
Speaker 2: nine years with the Cowboys. It lasted eight games, His
Speaker 2: statistics were poor, The team's record three and five was worse. That,
Speaker 2: above all else, is the reason Mike McCarthy is looking
Speaker 2: for a job today. The headline is, if Jerry Jones
Speaker 2: doesn't get a coach to fix Dak Prescott, Cowboys will
Speaker 2: remain a laughing stock. I don't know if you get
Speaker 2: somebody to fix a guy who's injury prone and thirty
Speaker 2: two years of age coming off hamstring surgery, this is
Speaker 2: who he is. He can't run anymore, so he's got
Speaker 2: to be a great pocket passer. Who are you bringing
Speaker 2: in that's gonna say, let me make him a great
Speaker 2: pocket passer?
Speaker 3: Yes, he and by not I'm not gonna say getting
Speaker 3: You didn't get rid of Mike McCarthy, but you didn't
Speaker 3: bring him back. Maybe it's the right way to say that, right,
Speaker 3: It does kind of appear from the outside that the
Speaker 3: Cowboys don't really have a plan.
Speaker 2: Unless they do, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe they already had a plan b a coach in waiting, like, ah,
Speaker 3: if Mike doesn't resign, we're gonna go with this guy.
Speaker 3: But it does appear that they don't really have a plan,
Speaker 3: especially with everything that you just mentioned about the quarterback situation.
Speaker 3: You got a bunch of other high price players. What's
Speaker 3: the direction that they're going in as a franchise.
Speaker 2: Well, I think we've been able to say that the
Speaker 2: last thirty years. What direction are they going in now?
Speaker 2: Have they had success? Yes? But if you're a Cowboy fan.
Speaker 2: Success is winning championships, not getting to the postseason, not
Speaker 2: ending up with thirteen wins, bowing out to the Green
Speaker 2: Bay Packers in an embarrassing fashion last year, and also
Speaker 2: with Mike McCarthy. He deserved better. I was curious how
Speaker 2: many coaches in NFL history have had at least eleven
Speaker 2: seasons with ten wins or more. Don Shula had twenty
Speaker 2: seasons with at least ten wins, Belichick had twenty, Andy
Speaker 2: Reid nineteen, Tom Landry sixteen. And then it's Mike Tomlin,
Speaker 2: Marty Schottenheimer, John Harbaugh, and Mike McCarthy. Whoa stand Stalla
Speaker 2: day Stantata day.
Speaker 4: This is the stule of the day.
Speaker 2: So Mike has carved out a borderline hall of fame resume.
Speaker 2: Feels like, you know, Sean Payton has had ten of
Speaker 2: these seasons, Tony Dungee had ten. You know, going down
Speaker 2: this list, shoule a Hall of famer. Belichick is reed, Landry, Tomlin,
Speaker 2: John Harball is probably going to be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: Sean Payton probably a Hall of Famer, Tony Dungee is
Speaker 2: a Hall of famer. Mike McCarthy's in this group. He's
Speaker 2: in the neighborhood here. I just don't know if we
Speaker 2: look at out of all of those coaches, do you
Speaker 2: look at him with the same reverence that you do
Speaker 2: the others. And I would have thought, hey, Mike McCarthy
Speaker 2: coming in there, will he stand up to Jerry Jones?
Speaker 2: And he didn't. I mean he did succeed until he
Speaker 2: loses his quarterback and then it went south after that.
Speaker 2: But if you're going to offer him a one year
Speaker 2: deal that's what was reported, Well, your professional pride is
Speaker 2: I don't want to be hanging, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: want to be just in limbo. And that's not fair
Speaker 2: to Mike McCarthy. You either want him or you don't. Yes, Marvin, Yeah.
Speaker 5: For the Cowboys, don't you think they need somebody who's
Speaker 5: a culture changer, because right now the Cowboys are just
Speaker 5: the Kardashians. They're just famous for being famous. Whoa like,
Speaker 5: what's their culture? It's uncertainty and being famous.
Speaker 2: So is Jerry Kim thinks he's Chris Jenner, like the
Speaker 2: ringleader jen Oh, the mominger. Correct, yes see.
Speaker 3: Right, but the culture is the owner who's gonna come
Speaker 3: in and change him?
Speaker 6: Nobody yeah, you're right, Yes, Marvin Well, I was gonna say,
Speaker 6: d I might have enough cachet ay if you want me,
Speaker 6: this is how I need to run things. But do
Speaker 6: you think do you think Jerry Jones is gonna stop
Speaker 6: being Jerry Jones holding press conferences after games, doing his
Speaker 6: radio show, two radio shows, like.
Speaker 2: He loves this stuff. He can't get enough of this stuff.
Speaker 2: And then Dion's gonna come in and look, Dion loves
Speaker 2: to self promote, but he's gonna be working for the
Speaker 2: ultimate self promoter in the NFL. But we'll talk to
Speaker 2: Tim Callishaw coming up. Kurt Warner was on the call
Speaker 2: last night. He will join us coming up as well.
Speaker 2: Mark Sanchez from Fox Sports will stop by. So Bears, Cowboys, Jags, Jets, Raiders, Saints.
Speaker 2: Does Mike McCarthy get another head coaching opportunity? And I
Speaker 2: don't know if this is true or not. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to verify this. Are the Bears zeroing in on Pete Carroll?
Speaker 2: That's interesting? Interesting? What does he You can't mention his
Speaker 2: name without his age? Is he seventy three? Like you
Speaker 2: get to a certain point in your life and you're
Speaker 2: that's part of your name. It's like seventy three year
Speaker 2: old Pete Carroll, Like, at what point did it become
Speaker 2: your age and then your name Pete's the middle name.
Speaker 7: It does feel though anything the Bears do is poked
Speaker 7: apart by their fans in the media. You interview Pete Carroll,
Speaker 7: but you don't interview Bill Belichick. Last year, you know
Speaker 7: you everything they do seems backwards. Last year, you interview nobody.
Speaker 7: This year you're adding people every day. They're up to
Speaker 7: thirteen head coaching interviews. You didn't get the called in,
Speaker 7: did you? If you did you love? I did not.
Speaker 2: No. I turned it down. I said, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 2: took your name out of consideration. I can't. I can't
Speaker 2: change the culture here. All right. Let's see Tom in
Speaker 2: North Carolina. Hi, Tom, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8: Hey, DP, I got a hot take on the Vikings.
Speaker 9: It's not really a real hot.
Speaker 8: Take, but I think that what Kevin O'Connell did with
Speaker 8: Sam Donald this year. I think Daniel Jones will be
Speaker 8: the starter next year and in the new Darland.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think he's going to be the Darling,
Speaker 2: but he might be a bridge quarterback there. Tom, thank you.
Speaker 2: He's getting loose. He had a statement it was you know,
Speaker 2: he waited until he got on the air before he
Speaker 2: cleared his croke. Jim Callashaw, Dallas Morning News sports columnist,
Speaker 2: He's got it easy. He's always got something to write about,
Speaker 2: and here you go, right on a platter.
Speaker 1: All.
Speaker 2: I think he wrote two columns like you're on fire
Speaker 2: with what's going on here. So let me start with
Speaker 2: is the Dion possibility a true possibility in your opinion?
Speaker 10: In my opinion, Dad, thanks for having me, I think no.
Speaker 11: But given it it's Jerry Jones, I'm certainly not going
Speaker 11: to rule it out there. There's something about the allure
Speaker 11: of doing something like that that would appeal to him. However,
Speaker 11: I just think he's going to try to find somebody,
Speaker 11: somebody else.
Speaker 10: You know, when you look at Dion after two years,
Speaker 10: what is his record of Colorado About five hundred, barely
Speaker 10: over it, And I just I don't think that's going
Speaker 10: to be I don't.
Speaker 11: Think this team is needs a motivator, and I think
Speaker 11: Dion's stuff works better in college than it will in
Speaker 11: the NFL.
Speaker 10: I think this team needs a coach, and it needs
Speaker 10: different schemes, and it needs new ideas.
Speaker 11: And I'm not saying Dion couldn't bring that, but I
Speaker 11: think Dion's greatest strength works better at college players.
Speaker 2: And you bring this up in your column. You're saying
Speaker 2: you got to fix Dak Prescott. Tim that's going to
Speaker 2: be difficult for a guy who's injury prone, making that
Speaker 2: kind of money and is a pocket quarterback and is
Speaker 2: thirty two years of age. I don't know who can
Speaker 2: fix that.
Speaker 10: You find those aspects troubling the fact that he's two
Speaker 10: thirds of the games.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and that's why you know I've thrown out Cliff kingsbred.
Speaker 11: Ben Johnson is everybody's first choice, and nobody has any
Speaker 11: idea what he would be like.
Speaker 10: As a head coach. But everybody loves Detroit's offense. But
Speaker 10: you go through Detroit's offense.
Speaker 11: Player by player, and you know Dallas doesn't win anywhere
Speaker 11: except maybe maybe Ceedee Lamb is a notch higher than
Speaker 11: a Mode raw, but it's not much if it is
Speaker 11: at all. And yeah, but if you're the Cowboys, if
Speaker 11: you're Jerry Jones, you have to hope.
Speaker 10: All you can do after signing back to that contract is.
Speaker 11: Hope you get three or four mostly healthy years out
Speaker 11: of him and who can put together the best offense
Speaker 11: that he can thrive in. I think that has to
Speaker 11: be the target here.
Speaker 2: What happened here in the last two weeks with Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 11: Know that anything did. I mean the fact that they
Speaker 11: met every day last week. You know, I do feel
Speaker 11: for Mike McCarthy sitting through those meetings. The sun never
Speaker 11: sets on a Jerry Jones conversation. They just go on
Speaker 11: and on and and you know, in Jerry's world, they
Speaker 11: didn't even get to contracts till the last day, So
Speaker 11: I don't know what in the world they they talked about.
Speaker 11: I think Jerry's mind was probably made up. If they
Speaker 11: didn't do better in the playoffs this year, no matter,
Speaker 11: no matter how that happened, he needed to go in another direction.
Speaker 11: It's five years, it's one playoff win, one playoff win
Speaker 11: over an eight and nineteen.
Speaker 10: So you know, I don't think anything went wrong McCarthy.
Speaker 11: Actually, I've got coached the hell out of him after
Speaker 11: Dak left and the way they played down the stretch,
Speaker 11: and they could have won the Cincinnati game, and they
Speaker 11: could have won obviously.
Speaker 10: Could have won the Washington game. But while Dak was here.
Speaker 10: There were three and five and they were a mess.
Speaker 10: And you know.
Speaker 11: I just think after five years he had to go
Speaker 11: look for another another voice, try something else.
Speaker 2: Okay, but why didn't Jerry make the decision when you
Speaker 2: had the window of opportunities to Ben Johnson?
Speaker 11: Because he doesn't operate though way. He likes to drag
Speaker 11: his speed and take a week give us headlines for
Speaker 11: talk shows and things like that. I don't really think
Speaker 11: I just mentioned Ben Johnson. I don't think he will
Speaker 11: hire Ben Johnson. I don't think the quiet, soft spoken,
Speaker 11: brainy offensive coordinator. They had one of those of Keli
Speaker 11: Borr and I don't think that's Jerry's idea of the
Speaker 11: head coach. So I'll be if Ben Johnson becomes a
Speaker 11: serious candidate. I would be very surprised.
Speaker 2: Any chance that Mike McCarthy had a good day yesterday, yeah, I.
Speaker 10: Would think so.
Speaker 11: I mean, look, he's been here five years, so he's
Speaker 11: made thirty five or forty millions, not badly here, it.
Speaker 10: Might be, and he turned it down whatever it was.
Speaker 12: A one year offer supposedly.
Speaker 10: For about the same money.
Speaker 11: He's confident he'll get the Bear's job or another job
Speaker 11: or sit out a year and try again.
Speaker 10: And he's not a bad coach.
Speaker 11: I just don't think I don't think he enhanced whatever
Speaker 11: his reputation was before coming here.
Speaker 10: I don't think he enhanced it in these five years.
Speaker 2: Well, he kind of got neutered there, and I don't
Speaker 2: know if he was ever viewed as a coach that
Speaker 2: was submissive.
Speaker 10: It's always difficult here.
Speaker 11: Parcels is the only hire since Jimmy that Jerry has
Speaker 11: sort of taken a couple of steps back and let
Speaker 11: him be the head coach. You know, it's appalling to
Speaker 11: me that, you know, Jerry Jones does Jerry Jones does
Speaker 11: his postgame press conference at home games at the same
Speaker 11: time Mike McCarthy's talking, and there's like me and four
Speaker 11: other people and Mike mc arthy's roof and everybody else
Speaker 11: is down around there. Just think of what that does,
Speaker 11: not just to the head coach, but to the signal.
Speaker 11: It sends to all the players walking out. They know
Speaker 11: who the authority figure here is.
Speaker 2: Okay, Tim, If I said to Jerry Jones, you can't
Speaker 2: talk to the media, you don't do any more interviews
Speaker 2: for the next five years, but I'll guarantee you you
Speaker 2: win one more super Bowl?
Speaker 11: Oh oh, he's talked about how much money he says
Speaker 11: he would spend, although he doesn't really spend it.
Speaker 10: That would be a difficult one.
Speaker 2: No radio shows, nothing.
Speaker 10: This man does two radio shows a week.
Speaker 2: Then, Oh, I know, and he'd do more probably if
Speaker 2: he could.
Speaker 10: I mean, he'd like to do drive time.
Speaker 2: He would like to host three to six.
Speaker 10: Going Home with Jerry, but that would be a yeah
Speaker 10: at this point. At this point, it is ten year
Speaker 10: here on this planet. I don't think he's I don't
Speaker 10: think he's going that maybe here.
Speaker 2: Oh, he couldn't do it. He could not do it.
Speaker 2: He loves it, he's addicted to it, and he wants
Speaker 2: everybody to know that he knows what he's doing. Just
Speaker 2: trust me. I got a plan. It's been good hands,
Speaker 2: great to talk to you as always, and probably check
Speaker 2: in with you again soon because you're going to eventually
Speaker 2: get a head coach here.
Speaker 10: May we'll have a head coach. We'll see who that is.
Speaker 2: Thank you to all right. That's Tim Callishaw, star of
Speaker 2: Around the Horn. He also gets around to doing uh,
Speaker 2: Dallas morning news columnist work. There you imagine you say
Speaker 2: to Jerry Jerry can't say work, no interviews, you know,
Speaker 2: no features here, no documentaries, no nothing, and you're going
Speaker 2: to win another Super Bowl? Well, how long do I
Speaker 2: have to not talk?
Speaker 10: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting what Tim said there because he said
Speaker 3: that he doesn't think that a guy like Ben Johnson
Speaker 3: sort of like a quiet, brainy type guy, is Jerry Jones'
Speaker 3: style of coach. Maybe that's exactly what they need. Jerry
Speaker 3: is the star, He's the guy up front. You don't
Speaker 3: need a larger than life personality to also combat that,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, or to go alongside of that.
Speaker 3: There's really only room for one guy in the camera there.
Speaker 2: But here's the problem I have with it that, yes,
Speaker 2: that is the reality of this, but I got to
Speaker 2: bring in somebody who will stand up to Jerry because
Speaker 2: Jerry has made some decisions that aren't the right decisions
Speaker 2: or at the right time, but nobody stands up to him.
Speaker 2: They're like, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: It kind of feels like they just had that guy
Speaker 3: who came in with a certain amount of like I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's cachet or certainly coaching history, where
Speaker 3: you're not really going to tell me how to do this.
Speaker 3: Because I'm the guy who knows how to do that.
Speaker 3: I don't know that standing up to Jerry and pushing
Speaker 3: back works there either, does it.
Speaker 2: I don't think that Mike McCarthy stood up to him.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Now he might say no, I did.
Speaker 2: I picked my spots. Maybe, but I can't imagine. You know,
Speaker 2: Jerry has a type. You know, it's like when guy goes, oh,
Speaker 2: I got a type of woman that I Jerry has
Speaker 2: a type of coach, and that's what he wants. He
Speaker 2: is if he could play quarterback, he'd play quarterback. Your owner,
Speaker 2: your GM, you're the mouthpiece for the friend. It's it's
Speaker 2: not changing anytime soon. And we said, do you sign
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott to that contract? I wouldn't have he did.
Speaker 2: He waited a long time. Ceedee Lamb is a star.
Speaker 2: Can you feature him enough? I wouldn't have brought back
Speaker 2: Zeke Elliott. Now have they had some good drafts? They have?
Speaker 2: Now you got to pay Michael Parsons. He's gonna want
Speaker 2: forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Pauline, remember a couple of years ago, maybe two
Speaker 7: three years ago, when they had the assistant coaches Dan
Speaker 7: Quinn and Kellen Moore, and they're like, don't let either
Speaker 7: of those guys out of the building. Don't let them go.
Speaker 7: You'd rather hire one of them and bounce Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 7: Then you can't bring back Dan Quinn. He's all set
Speaker 7: in Washington, he's going nowhere. He's set. But Kellen Moore
Speaker 7: is the offensive coordinator of the Eagles. He's very young still.
Speaker 7: He looks like he's twelve. I think he's like under forty.
Speaker 7: That seems like a guy that.
Speaker 2: But if okay, But Kyle O. Shawn says, you got
Speaker 2: to fix Dak Prescott. You can't fix somebody who's thirty
Speaker 2: two in an injury prone. You just can't. And the
Speaker 2: offensive line is not like the Lions or the Eagles.
Speaker 2: The offensive line used to be great. It's not. You
Speaker 2: don't have a dangerous running back. You got Cede Lamb,
Speaker 2: You've got a couple of impact players on defense. I
Speaker 2: don't I don't know if you can bring in And
Speaker 2: is it a culture changer or is it somebody who's
Speaker 2: going to come in and be able to fix Dak Prescott?
Speaker 2: Can you get both? All right, We'll take a break.
Speaker 2: We'll talk to Kurt Oorner. He was on the call
Speaker 2: last night, and we'll talk to him about just how
Speaker 2: dangerous the rams are and what does he expect to
Speaker 2: happen in Dallas back after this Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 2: for Westwood one Radio last night with the wild Card
Speaker 2: game between the vikings of the Rams. Kurt, good to
Speaker 2: see you again. What did you expect pregame was going
Speaker 2: to happen last night?
Speaker 12: Yeah? There, I wish I knew. I didn't really know
Speaker 12: what to expect.
Speaker 4: You know, anytime you throw you know, everything that was
Speaker 4: thrown at the Rams into this week, including you know,
Speaker 4: issues with your family and maybe friends of yours. I
Speaker 4: don't think you ever really know how team is going
Speaker 4: to respond. They are going to grow together. But I
Speaker 4: think Sean McVay did an unbelievable job. Give some credit
Speaker 4: to the Cardinals. I thought they did an unbelievable job
Speaker 4: of welcoming the Rams. And making them feel at home.
Speaker 4: But what a performance. I mean, they came out from
Speaker 4: the get go and they dominated that game. And I
Speaker 4: think oftentimes when you have situations like this, Dan, it
Speaker 4: goes one of two ways, right, and you find out
Speaker 4: pretty early whether a team is ready to play or
Speaker 4: whether their mind is on something else. And we saw
Speaker 4: very early that the Rams were ready to play.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's look at Sam Darnald because we know his
Speaker 2: future could be at stake in Minnesota these last two games.
Speaker 2: What did you see from Sam Donald that you didn't
Speaker 2: see in the other games this season.
Speaker 12: Well, first of all, we'll put it on the team
Speaker 12: as a whole.
Speaker 4: I thought Minnesota got physically dominated in both games. So
Speaker 4: that's the first issue is And it wasn't just upfront.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it was on the back end with the receivers
Speaker 4: as well. But maybe the biggest thing for me was
Speaker 4: Sam and I kind of saw it all year long,
Speaker 4: was his struggles with pressure, you know, understanding when pressure
Speaker 4: is coming and having answers for that pressure. Sometimes that
Speaker 4: answer isn't even just a completion, but it's just saving
Speaker 4: some yards. You know. There was that situation in the
Speaker 4: fourth quarter last night where theyre what third and eight
Speaker 4: or something like that, and he takes the huge sack.
Speaker 4: I mean, in that situation you got to at least
Speaker 4: set up for a field goal. So if nothing else,
Speaker 4: throw the football away, maybe you go forward on fourth
Speaker 4: down because you're in that situation. But there's too many
Speaker 4: times this year of him just holding and taking negative plays,
Speaker 4: and those negative plays are just hard to overcome. So that,
Speaker 4: to me was probably the biggest issue that I saw.
Speaker 4: And then you have to ask yourself the question, as
Speaker 4: I know everybody is, is okay, if you want to
Speaker 4: keep him around, what does.
Speaker 12: That look like? What kind of commitment do you have
Speaker 12: to make to him?
Speaker 4: And you know, in those big games, the two biggest
Speaker 4: games of the year, he didn't play very well. Are
Speaker 4: you willing to, you know, commit to him long term?
Speaker 12: You know? After seeing that?
Speaker 2: All right, I'll ask you play GM, would you keep
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold if the price is right?
Speaker 4: I would say yes, I would keep them with the
Speaker 4: prices right, I think the question would be how long
Speaker 4: do I have to keep him? And then the other factor,
Speaker 4: dan is I don't really know what we have in
Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy, Like I didn't see him in preseason. I
Speaker 4: didn't know where he was. I don't know if you
Speaker 4: know the Vikings were ready to start him after that
Speaker 4: one preseason game, or if you know they hadn't seen
Speaker 4: enough and Sam was the guy. So I feel like
Speaker 4: after watching them this year, they've got a good enough
Speaker 4: team that they need.
Speaker 12: A guy at that position to make them competitive. Sam
Speaker 12: made them.
Speaker 4: More than competitive all year long. But that, to me
Speaker 4: is the question. I don't really know what you have
Speaker 4: in JJ McCarthy. I didn't see enough in college. I
Speaker 4: didn't see enough with the Vikings to know for sure.
Speaker 4: If you feel like you have enough, then absolutely not,
Speaker 4: you go with JJ and you move forward. But if
Speaker 4: you're not sure, I think it's hard to let a
Speaker 4: guy that did that well out of the building and
Speaker 4: you say, Okay, so we saw one flaw or we
Speaker 4: saw a flaw with our team.
Speaker 12: We need to fix that flaw.
Speaker 4: But if we do, we've got this quarterback that played
Speaker 4: at a really, really high level.
Speaker 2: Okay, but is this fixable. You're talking about pressure, Well,
Speaker 2: every quarterback faces pressure. The difference is you welcomed pressure.
Speaker 2: He seemed to be unnerved or very nerved by it,
Speaker 2: like oh my god. And then you start to kind
Speaker 2: of get out of your comfort zone. So can you
Speaker 2: fix what you saw the last two games?
Speaker 11: Dan?
Speaker 4: I wish I knew the answer to that, but I'm
Speaker 4: with you. I think there are some people that in
Speaker 4: that moment, when pressure's on them, high stakes, they can
Speaker 4: just slow the game down and make the right decision.
Speaker 12: I made a comment about Jayden Daniels from the night before,
Speaker 12: and what I love.
Speaker 4: About Jaden Daniels is he makes the right decision in
Speaker 4: the moment, even if he doesn't see it, even if
Speaker 4: something's not open, He'll throw the football away, you know,
Speaker 4: he'll take off and make a two or three yard
Speaker 4: gain instead of taking these sacks.
Speaker 12: And here's a rookie that we're seeing do this.
Speaker 4: And so I've always wondered if that's something that truly
Speaker 4: can be taught. You know, when you've got pressure around you,
Speaker 4: or when the game speeds up, can you slow it
Speaker 4: down and have that answer? I think, you know, I
Speaker 4: think for the most part, if you're good at it,
Speaker 4: you're good at it.
Speaker 12: Do you do?
Speaker 4: I think you can help a quarterback, Sure, you can
Speaker 4: help them by giving them some answers, But I don't
Speaker 4: know if that's something that all of a sudden, we're
Speaker 4: gonna see a quarterback that's not good against pressure become
Speaker 4: great against pressure. I'm not sure that's something that's that
Speaker 4: you can really learn.
Speaker 2: How threatening are the Rams.
Speaker 4: I think they're they're scary, and I think they're scary
Speaker 4: in a game where they can win the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 4: and that to me.
Speaker 2: Is but you're going against the Eagles now.
Speaker 4: Exactly, and so that to me is where I feel
Speaker 4: like the Rams could struggle a little bit as upfront.
Speaker 12: You know, if they can.
Speaker 4: Handle it up front. They obviously have playmakers. They've got
Speaker 4: a young front. I mean, nine sacks last night by
Speaker 4: eight different guys. They've got lots of guys that can.
Speaker 12: Get after the quarterback. I just don't think Philly is
Speaker 12: going to play that sort of game.
Speaker 4: So I think they are a dangerous team based on
Speaker 4: what Matthew Staffer can do, the weapons that they have,
Speaker 4: But it has to be more their their way of
Speaker 4: playing football, and I'm not sure they're to be able
Speaker 4: to dictate that against Billy.
Speaker 2: He's the Hall of Famer Kurt Warner. You can see
Speaker 2: him on NFL Game Day Mornings with Rich Eisending Company.
Speaker 2: He was on the call last night the Vikings and
Speaker 2: the Rams. If I said, you can have Jayden Daniels
Speaker 2: moving forward or justin Herbert.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm taking Jade Daniels. I mean, no, no doubt
Speaker 4: about it. I mean, I just I've seen that young
Speaker 4: man play.
Speaker 2: It's quarterback k.
Speaker 12: Maybe just outside of that.
Speaker 4: But I'm probably only saying that because because he's a rookie,
Speaker 4: right and because you know, against one year and one
Speaker 4: body of work. But if I stacked up all the
Speaker 4: things that he does well and put him up against
Speaker 4: the top five quarterbacks in the league, it would be
Speaker 4: hard for me to find five guys that do all
Speaker 4: the things as well as Jayden Daniels has done this year,
Speaker 4: the critical moments, handed on pressure, just the consistency of
Speaker 4: his technique the red zone. You know, normally you have
Speaker 4: struggles in the red zone because everything gets tighter. He
Speaker 4: has been phenomenal in the red zone last two minutes
Speaker 4: of games in critical moments like it would be hard
Speaker 4: to probably find five guys that have played consistently better
Speaker 4: than him all year long.
Speaker 2: I think you were twenty eight when you were a rookie.
Speaker 2: Weren't you my first year playing?
Speaker 10: Yes, I was twenty Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty eight the Bills in the Ravens and both
Speaker 2: of these quarterbacks trying not to do too much. Like
Speaker 2: you almost have to say to yourself, Okay, I still
Speaker 2: got to be that same person that I've been all
Speaker 2: season long or my career. But sometimes you want to
Speaker 2: play outside of yourself. And sometimes we've seen where you
Speaker 2: know you're your own worst enemy. So how do you
Speaker 2: have that seat belt on that says just stay within
Speaker 2: yourself here?
Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing, Dan is you don't predetermine
Speaker 4: that you're going to do something that maybe the situation
Speaker 4: doesn't dictate. You know, like if you drop back and
Speaker 4: you're telling yourself, hey, I'm going to take off here
Speaker 4: if if I see any kind of a window as
Speaker 4: opposed to reading the play and then taking off when
Speaker 4: the play dictates that, that to me is the key
Speaker 4: is you have to play the play. But the easy
Speaker 4: thing to do is, oh, I need to make a
Speaker 4: big play right here. So I'm gonna go back and
Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw.
Speaker 12: This deep one.
Speaker 4: You know, if I get any scenario like you can't
Speaker 4: talk yourself into doing things that the situation doesn't dictate
Speaker 4: for you to do.
Speaker 12: And I'm sure, you know. You know me, I wasn't
Speaker 12: a runner. I couldn't move.
Speaker 4: Uh so my dictating was, you know, saying I'm gonna
Speaker 4: kind of force a deeper throw or make a bigger
Speaker 4: play than was out there. For these guys, it's taken
Speaker 4: off and creating, you know, instead of you know, winning
Speaker 4: with their arm.
Speaker 12: It's like, hey, I can go back.
Speaker 4: And you see these guys do this at times where
Speaker 4: they hit their back foot and they're already taken off
Speaker 4: to run because they felt something. And in those situations,
Speaker 4: I almost feel like it's you're dictating that ahead of time.
Speaker 4: I know this is a pass, but if I drop
Speaker 4: back and I see something, I'm just gonna take off
Speaker 4: and run instead of allowing the situation to play out
Speaker 4: for you. And I think that's what you have to fight.
Speaker 4: The more talented you are, the more things you can do,
Speaker 4: the more you have to fight that and say, play
Speaker 4: within myself, play within what the play dictates, and don't
Speaker 4: try to do too much. Not always an easy thing
Speaker 4: to do, but that to me is the key is play.
Speaker 4: Play to play and don't allow those thoughts to get
Speaker 4: in your head, you know, ahead of time to dictate
Speaker 4: how you're going to play.
Speaker 2: How desirable is the Cowboys, John.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's always desirable from the standpoint
Speaker 4: that you know, if you win as a Dallas Cowboy,
Speaker 4: if you have success as the Dallas Cowboy, you're going
Speaker 4: to get notoriety and you're going to have you know,
Speaker 4: that platform that I think you know, every player and
Speaker 4: every coach covets. Right when you get to this level.
Speaker 4: You want to know that when you play, you're going
Speaker 4: to be on TV and what you do is going
Speaker 4: to be going to be focused on around the league.
Speaker 4: But you know, I think everybody's talked about it. There's
Speaker 4: the negative side to that as well, because we have
Speaker 4: this that the Cowboys are supposed to win championships, even
Speaker 4: though it hasn't been. It's been thirty years since they've
Speaker 4: won championships. So, like Mike McCarthy, you win a lot
Speaker 4: in the regular season, not good enough, not good enough,
Speaker 4: not good enough, And then we always talk about the
Speaker 4: second factor is you've got an owner that wants to
Speaker 4: be out in the forefront and the owner saying things
Speaker 4: that you know, as a coach, you're like, I don't
Speaker 4: want anybody saying that, you know, I want to keep
Speaker 4: this stuff in the house.
Speaker 12: I want to be able to lead here.
Speaker 4: And you've got to fight your ownership a little bit
Speaker 4: in what they're saying and deal with that. So you know,
Speaker 4: those two factors I think can can make it a
Speaker 4: tough job. But I don't think anybody you know that
Speaker 4: wants to be a head coach is going to turn
Speaker 4: down the opportunity to be a head coach of the
Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys because you know what that means. If you
Speaker 4: believe in yourself and you have success, what that can
Speaker 4: mean for your career.
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you is always thank you.
Speaker 12: I'm going to talk to you too.
Speaker 2: Thank you, buddy, Thank you buddy. That's Kurt Warner, Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer. You can see him on NFL Game Day
Speaker 2: mornings and on the call last night. Uh Noah in
Speaker 2: North Carolina? Good morning, Noah. What's on your mind?
Speaker 12: Uh?
Speaker 9: Good morning, Dan, Patrick, Dan, and uh more? I think
Speaker 9: specifically sprintsy.
Speaker 2: Are you at work?
Speaker 9: Noah? Yeah, yeah, I'm going somewhere quiet?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 9: Is it any better?
Speaker 2: Do you guys want to guess what Noah does for
Speaker 2: a living? Todd, what do you think work on some.
Speaker 7: Kind of print shop or carpentry work.
Speaker 2: Okay, Seaton, got a guess where Noah, just judging from
Speaker 2: the background noise.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess that they're loading loading doctor loading stuff there.
Speaker 2: Okay, what about you, Mark, he.
Speaker 5: Works in Amazon warehouse.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Okay, well that's specific.
Speaker 7: Okay, Pauline Outdoors Construction. They're doing a little demo work today.
Speaker 2: In the little demo work there, I'm gonna say auto repair.
Speaker 9: I am actually building an Amazon.
Speaker 2: WHOA, So you're you're building an Amazon warehouse?
Speaker 15: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Yeah, one of their distribution centers.
Speaker 2: Marvin, I'm gonna give that to you. Congratulations, Blue all right.
Speaker 9: Uh no, you're so big.
Speaker 2: Uh, Noah, you have to pay off a bet.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so, uh, I got it. I'm really glad the
Speaker 9: stress is over.
Speaker 16: And I betrayed my team and I took the pitiful
Speaker 16: Steelers to go to the super Bowl, and uh it's
Speaker 16: a deserved hide.
Speaker 9: To the face.
Speaker 16: And I'm looking forward to taking this one and I
Speaker 16: will never do this again because I believe now, and
Speaker 16: I'm glad.
Speaker 2: I need you to Noah, we need somebody you work
Speaker 2: with to videotape that and then send it in so
Speaker 2: we can play it on the show. But good to
Speaker 2: hear from you and thanks thanks for joining us. So
Speaker 2: that's Noah building an Amazon distribution center. I believe so, Marvin,
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you credit for that. Well done.
Speaker 7: Hey, Amazon's everywhere?
Speaker 2: Why not? Yeah? Dylan in Nashville, Hi, Dylan, what's on
Speaker 2: your mind today?
Speaker 10: Dan six foot wanted to see what you thought about
Speaker 10: the possibility.
Speaker 4: That Dallas hires Dion and then trades up with the Titan,
Speaker 4: sends Dax to Nashville and draft your dirt.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But if I'm Nashville, why do I want Dak Prescott?
Speaker 2: I like how we always look at trades as one sided,
Speaker 2: like how does my team benefit here? You never think
Speaker 2: about the other side. I remember listening to Mike and
Speaker 2: the Mad Dog on WFA and New York and people
Speaker 2: would always call in with these trade proposals. I'm thinking
Speaker 2: that maybe we send Luis Soho to the Red Sox
Speaker 2: for uh David Ortiz. I'll hang up and listen, and
Speaker 2: you go, what.
Speaker 3: Do we send the benniag Bayani and two picks for
Speaker 3: Roger Clemons?
Speaker 7: Like the Titans are sitting around going how can we
Speaker 7: get older and more injured?
Speaker 2: A quarterback?
Speaker 7: And spend more in the position. Let's go, Hey, what
Speaker 7: about Dak Prescott.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's spend a whole lot of money on a
Speaker 2: guy that's injury prone and he's thirty two. I like
Speaker 2: that philosophy. We'll take a break when we come back.
Speaker 2: We played this Sam Darnold game and a very special
Speaker 2: NFL quiz after.
Speaker 1: This, be sure to catch the live edition of The
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am
Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel he's already stepped into the job, and he's
Speaker 2: already trying to change the culture in New England. Here's
Speaker 2: the Patriots new head coach.
Speaker 15: To galvanize our football team. I want to galvanize this building.
Speaker 15: I want to galvanize our fans, and the most important
Speaker 15: thing are the players.
Speaker 10: There's some of them right here.
Speaker 15: I want to provide a program that provides their ownership
Speaker 15: but also their accountability of each other, and one that
Speaker 15: they'll be proud to be a part of.
Speaker 2: Okay, Satan or you fired up with Mike Brabel as
Speaker 2: the Patriots new head coach. Uh yeah, yeah, I think
Speaker 2: it's awesome. I think it's a great hire.
Speaker 3: I think it's terrible for what we do in this business, though,
Speaker 3: if he's going to have that pleasant demeanor. Hey, thanks
Speaker 3: a lot, Jim for asking the question. You know, I'm
Speaker 3: really glad that you asked that. Let me answer you.
Speaker 3: And here's my thoughts on that. What the hell are
Speaker 3: we supposed to do?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 7: I see what Seatan's saying. He and I were sitting
Speaker 7: here watching it yesterday, and every time Mike brabel was
Speaker 7: asked a question, the reporters like, Mike, ready to have
Speaker 7: you back. Hey, good to see it, Timmy. Yeah, Charles,
Speaker 7: it was the opposite of Belichick.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He didn't call anybody stupid.
Speaker 3: He didn't like roll his eyes once, no real audible
Speaker 3: size enunciated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't belittle or demean anyone. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I miss the old days.
Speaker 2: What's happening in New England? Yeah, although I loved Belichick
Speaker 2: last night, the irascable Bill Belichick when when they they
Speaker 2: didn't call a fumble or intentional grounding on Matthew Stafford
Speaker 2: and Belichick had this to say on the manning.
Speaker 10: Cast across he ran into the left tackle.
Speaker 11: In fact, throw the pass forward number seven.
Speaker 13: It was in the area, therefore it is an incomplete pass?
Speaker 2: Second an offensive league, what are you guys doing. There's
Speaker 2: no rules to help the defense. In the NFL, you
Speaker 2: can get away with that. They call it an incomplete pass. Okay,
Speaker 2: I think it was the right call, but it felt
Speaker 2: like it was the wrong call. It was like, oh,
Speaker 2: come on, you're gonna punish the Vikings for that moment
Speaker 2: that would have tied the game ten ten. But here
Speaker 2: is Belichick. Oh, come on, it's an offensive He's right
Speaker 2: as a defensive minded guy, the defense doesn't get any
Speaker 2: breaks ever. Never.
Speaker 7: Yes, the pass went less than four feet into the ground,
Speaker 7: generally near an offensive player. It just didn't feel like
Speaker 7: a pass in the definition of the word pass. And
Speaker 7: also it was clearly grounding and that couldn't be reviewed
Speaker 7: and called. But it didn't feel like a pass. It
Speaker 7: felt like a defensive caused turnover.
Speaker 2: But if Maholmes makes that same kind of move, we
Speaker 2: say the following, Wow, that's Adam. Who else could do
Speaker 2: that in this league?
Speaker 6: Patrick Maholmes, I mean, I mean this this guy unbelievable
Speaker 6: or was so smart?
Speaker 12: Oh?
Speaker 2: Is that your Tony Romo? Let's go to Tony. Tony,
Speaker 2: what did you think of that play.
Speaker 8: Let's a.
Speaker 2: I fee look at this guy. Oh how great is he?
Speaker 5: Yes, Marvin, but Mahomes, he's completed in a pass like that.
Speaker 2: You're right, Matthew.
Speaker 5: Stafford's never even attempted to pass the ball like that.
Speaker 5: It looks like he was throwing trash away, Mahomes, that's
Speaker 5: in his arsenal. That's the difference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course nobody else could do it, only Patton.
Speaker 2: You've got quarterback. Nobody even things are doing that. Yes, Todd,
Speaker 2: I need.
Speaker 5: To know more about this in the area receiver thing.
Speaker 10: I think that requires more explanation.
Speaker 12: Is it totally subjective? Or he's two yards away, he's
Speaker 12: four yards away.
Speaker 5: He's half facing the quarterback.
Speaker 9: What's in the area.
Speaker 2: It Once again, it felt like it was an incorrect call,
Speaker 2: but I guess by the book it was the correct call.
Speaker 2: And even Stafford as he's on the ground, he's like
Speaker 2: pointing towards Nope, it's our it's our ball, our ball.
Speaker 2: And that was a big play. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it changes the game, but at least it would have
Speaker 2: tied the game.
Speaker 12: All right.
Speaker 2: Time to play a quick NFL quiz and then we'll
Speaker 2: play the Sam Darnold game if we have time this hour.
Speaker 2: All right, PAULI the quick NFL quiz you mentioned Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford's having a great career, won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: He's only been nominated to two Pro Bowls, two Pro
Speaker 2: Bowl nominations.
Speaker 7: Right, it's fair to say he may not get another
Speaker 7: two Pro Bowls from Matt Stafford. Is it also fair
Speaker 7: to say he's going to the Hall of Fame someday?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 7: I think most people lean that way.
Speaker 2: Okay, the fewest Pro Bowl appearances for a Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame quarterback.
Speaker 7: That's no for a Hall of Famer, the person in
Speaker 7: the Hall of Fame currently in the NFL Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you should do Hall of Fame quarterbacks. I
Speaker 6: have that as well.
Speaker 7: We can go quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: Judge them, Yeah, we judge them differently.
Speaker 7: Okay, let's do quarterbacks first.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is the fewest number of Pro Bowl nominations
Speaker 2: for a Hall of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 7: The number is three Pro Bowls, which will be Matt Stafford.
Speaker 2: Take that record, Okay, Okay, you got to give us
Speaker 2: new school old school old school and say nineteen prior
Speaker 2: to nineteen eighty or after nineteen eighty.
Speaker 7: A little of both. That's a big hands.
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, Marvin whoa Marvin's got his hand up? Yes,
Speaker 2: Dan Fouts, No.
Speaker 7: But you're close.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.
Speaker 7: He's in the wheelhouse.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.
Speaker 7: Here's the hint. All the players on this list are
Speaker 7: boosted by their postseasons and Super Bowl performances.
Speaker 2: Okay, boosted.
Speaker 6: Troy Aikman now three Pro Bowls, this player, Todd, You
Speaker 6: got a quarterback Eli Manning Elia, but he's not a
Speaker 6: Hall of Famer yet, right seatan They have to be
Speaker 6: a Hall of Famer already, Yes, I believe, Yes.
Speaker 2: That doesn't Aaron Rodgers doesn't.
Speaker 7: No, okay ready, h Warren Moon, No, more seventies than eighties,
Speaker 7: but seventies and eighties guy.
Speaker 2: More seventies than eighties.
Speaker 7: Bob Greasy, Terry Bradshaw three Pro Bowls, four Super Bowls,
Speaker 7: Hall of Famer bonus coverage.
Speaker 2: The fewest fewest.
Speaker 7: Pro Bowl appearances by a future Hall of Famer, it's one.
Speaker 7: The hint is running back seventies, e seventies, more eighties
Speaker 7: than seventies. One big super Bowl for this guy, John Regan.
Speaker 7: John Reagan's is correct. One Pro Bowl? Yeah, who else
Speaker 7: is on that list? These are all guys who benefited
Speaker 7: from a Super Bowl, two Pro Bowls. Jimbo Kover, Steve
Speaker 7: McMichael eighty five bears a lot of fall out there,
Speaker 7: Art Monk, Drew Pearson, John Stalworth, Lynn Swann, Terrell Davis
Speaker 7: all three Pro Bowls.
Speaker 2: Mark Sanchez a Pro Bowl player, checking Hill join us
Speaker 2: coming up next hour, Final hour in this Tuesday, right
Speaker 2: after this