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Speaker 1: Wow, fantasy freaks and geeks, what's up? You're listening to

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Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Live Podcast. I'm your host, James Kelp,

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Speaker 1: joined alongside by my married band of brothers. Here the

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Speaker 1: Bearded wonder of Fantasy. We're talking about Matt Franchise. What's up, James,

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Speaker 1: Alex Galehard the whiz kit from Wisconsin? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: And what are you laughing about over there? Mat that?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Like that? Really enthusiastic? I don't know, I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: Let's got fired up? The wide receiver prognosticator. Matt Harmon,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? Oh? Not much? Um, nothing really going on? Okay,

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Speaker 1: al right, got nothing to say. I feel I feel

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Speaker 1: like me about like three granola bars today. You were

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Speaker 1: which is good. And then of course, MG, my guy

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Speaker 1: Marcus Grant, what's going on? All right? Let's get into it, man.

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Speaker 1: We got a big show in front of us here today.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the a f C or excuse me,

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Speaker 1: the NFC West. We're gonna break down the Cardinals, the Rams,

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners and the Seahawks will give you a

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Speaker 1: familyak update. I almost forgot, um, Matt Harmon has I

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Speaker 1: mean the blow torch of hot takes when it comes

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Speaker 1: to Todd Gurley. That's gonna be coming up later. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: you do. You have a very sensible, measured take. You

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Speaker 1: absolutely will trash Todd Gurley here in just above it.

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Speaker 1: Uh and uh so stick around for that. But we

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Speaker 1: shall start with our top news, the camera highlights in

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Speaker 1: the world of spaking, breaking news, breaking, continue to follow

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Speaker 1: breaking news, your wife. All right, first headline out of Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Matthews is gonna be out a few weeks with

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Speaker 1: Matthews will be back for their third preseason game August

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Speaker 1: twenty seven. I do believe, um, but also indicated that

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Speaker 1: confident that he would be back for week one. All right, Now,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing we we've talked about Jordan Matthew. We

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Speaker 1: Does this mean does it add more concerned? Obviously, it

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Speaker 1: adds more concerned. But how about Nelson Agloor? Now where

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Speaker 1: does he fit until into this picture? Um? I mean

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Speaker 1: I liked him before this. I thought he had some

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Speaker 1: sleeper potentially even before this. Now I think he definitely,

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Speaker 1: stronger here. And look, I think Matthews will be back. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, he'll be back. I think in time for

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Speaker 1: through a slot receiver and how those guys generally can

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Speaker 1: be good but not great Fantasy wide. I was for you,

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Speaker 1: Al was a guy who I think can win on

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Speaker 1: think he's got some really good potential. Alright, anybody else, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that what Marcus was saying, like, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: would also be nice if he started building some you know,

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Speaker 1: positive momentum in camp. There's really been no positive drumbeat,

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Speaker 1: you know, positive news flow. Chris Givens, Boy, anybody have

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Speaker 1: Reuben Randall takes? We are we're we're hurting here. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to Chicago. I'll Shan Jeffrey returns to practice. He

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Speaker 1: year again when he played just unbelievable but was battling

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Speaker 1: interim al Sean Jeffrey Keenan Allen Keenan Allen, Okay, I

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Speaker 1: mean Jeffrey's ADP has fallen all the way to the

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Speaker 1: It's tough. Am I mistaken in saying Jeffrey's playing for

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Speaker 1: going to be a big season for Jeffrey. Yeah, I'm really,

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Speaker 1: I'm really, I'm anxious to see what he can do.

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Speaker 1: Um because again, man, that talent level is just not

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Speaker 1: so many positive reports regarding Michael Thomas. Had a lot

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Speaker 1: Does having the whole Michael Thomas Willie Snead thing, does

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Speaker 1: let's go to Philadelphia. Tight Ends should play a big

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Speaker 1: role that, According to Zach Berman for Philly dot Com,

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Speaker 1: He caught seventy five passes last year for eight hundred

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Speaker 1: zach Ertz's fantasy value in relation to what these news

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Speaker 1: just not about zach Ertz. I'm with you. You don't

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Speaker 1: need a flashbacks. We don't. We don't need a flashback

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Speaker 1: don't know. He just he doesn't score touchdowns with any regularity.

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Speaker 1: a great player. He's fine, and in this offense, I

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Speaker 1: just don't think that there's going to be enough high

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Speaker 1: on zach Ertz. Man. If he's the tight end twelve

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Speaker 1: to make sure we say it is that by preserving him,

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Speaker 1: it's also a good sign that they want him to

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Speaker 1: have a decent workload in season. They're not They wouldn't

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Speaker 1: preserve him and then be like you're gonna get five

429
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Speaker 1: touches a game, Like they know this guy was a

430
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Speaker 1: difference maker in their offense last year. They're gonna feed

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Speaker 1: him the rock, the famed slayer of Bellatrix. Yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: do an NFC West preview. We'll start with the Cardinals.

433
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Speaker 1: They were good last year. You know who was great?

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Speaker 1: How about David Johnson? Um, David Johnson? Where is he

435
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Speaker 1: going right now in drafts? Like anywhere between what five

436
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Speaker 1: and like nine? Anywhere between one and else, pretty all

437
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Speaker 1: over the place, all right, Where where do you guys

438
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Speaker 1: take him? What do you guys have him? Ked? I

439
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 1: have him as my first running back. He's my number

440
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 1: one RBS across you'll spend too much time together. So yeah,

441
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:22,159
Speaker 1: that's too. He's a premium athlete playing in a premium offense. Um,

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00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot to like about DJ. What is there

443
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Speaker 1: anything that concerns you about him? Honestly, No, I mean

444
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Speaker 1: they keep Bruce arians keeps trying to weave this narrative

445
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Speaker 1: that they're not gonna feed Chris Johns are they're not

446
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Speaker 1: gonna feed David Johnson the rock by mentioning Chris Johnson

447
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Speaker 1: Andrea Allington and stuff. But we all saw last year

448
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Speaker 1: at down the Stretch what he could do in this

449
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Speaker 1: offense with his dual threat ability. And I think they're

450
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Speaker 1: just blowing smoke because other people in the organization, like

451
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Speaker 1: Stump Mitchell, his running backs coach, Steve Kain, the general manager,

452
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Speaker 1: other people have been pumping up Johnson and the things

453
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Speaker 1: that he can do for this offense. He's a total

454
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Speaker 1: mismatch when he gets out of the backfield, like there's

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Speaker 1: the great Wrestling. Has made this point a couple of

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Speaker 1: times on the Around the NFL podcast. But the first

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Speaker 1: time the Packers played the Cardinals, when they got boat

458
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Speaker 1: raced in the regular season, they tried to cover them

459
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 1: with a linebacker failed. They tried with like a safety

460
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Speaker 1: and failed, and they ended up putting like a cornerback

461
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Speaker 1: on him too and double teaming in because he was

462
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Speaker 1: that good out of the backfield. His his ceiling is

463
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Speaker 1: is probably the highest. Would like would anybody argue saying

464
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Speaker 1: his ceiling is the highest among the running backs in

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Speaker 1: seen He's the obviously there's Levy on Bell uh and

466
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Speaker 1: he but he's the only one who has that sort

467
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Speaker 1: of per game upside. UH like to be just massively

468
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Speaker 1: unfair as a rusher and a receiver. And we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about this in the Todd Gurley section. Like, he checks

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Speaker 1: all the boxes of what it's important to have when

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Speaker 1: you're a top fantasy running back. He plays in a

472
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Speaker 1: great offense, he plays the good quarterback, and he gets

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Speaker 1: a ton of work in the receiving and he is

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Speaker 1: hashtag and he's really freaking good. Um, he's a combined warrior.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I'm impressed there. Uh. You know, but

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Speaker 1: here's the reports to uh to to uh. To Matt's point, Uh,

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Speaker 1: there are reports that they're actually working him in the

478
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Speaker 1: slot uh in training camp. So that's really interesting. Um,

479
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Speaker 1: can you imagine Chris Johnson in the backfield and then

480
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Speaker 1: they just kind of slide d DJ right into a slight.

481
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Speaker 1: It's a nightmare. I mean, that's like great Tyron Matthew

482
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Speaker 1: I said it. I think it was an all or

483
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Speaker 1: nothing that he reminds David Johnson, reminds him of a

484
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Speaker 1: bigger Marshall Falk, and that's the same stuff they used

485
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Speaker 1: to do with Marshall Falk. It's true, he just roll

486
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Speaker 1: out in the slot and then that linebacker whoever, was

487
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Speaker 1: just like basically, well, I'm I have no chance. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's such a such a great pass catcher out of

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Speaker 1: the backfield. Carson Palmer undervalued, overvalued, rightly valued? What what

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Speaker 1: what do we do with Carson Palmer? I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: coming up to the board with double digit rounds. You're

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Speaker 1: looking at you know, Tanna Levin something like that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's a good spot for him. And

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Speaker 1: agent concerns are pushing his draft price down. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean I guess they are. I guess I'm not really afraid.

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Speaker 1: I'm not scarred, you know. I just like what he

497
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Speaker 1: has around him, and when he's there, he's amazing. Plus,

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Speaker 1: I feel like if you're drafting. If you are waiting

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Speaker 1: on a quarterback and you're waiting that long to get

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Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, you're probably drafting another quarterback within the next

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Speaker 1: couple of rounds. Well, so you know you you'll have

502
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Speaker 1: that installation in the event that something bad does happen.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I would like to do, uh,

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Speaker 1: Carson Palmer. Eli Manning combo, I'm not bad. That's not bad.

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Speaker 1: I'll take that. Um. For some reason, Eli Manning, I

506
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Speaker 1: shouldn't say, for some reason, the Giants are like one

507
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Speaker 1: of those like marquee teams where um, guys on these

508
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Speaker 1: teams that the Packers, the Cowboys, the Giants, they just

509
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Speaker 1: go way earlier, uh than they probably should, Eli Manning.

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Speaker 1: I think on NFL dot Com is going somewhere like

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Speaker 1: the eight round, which is just bananas, stop it. But

512
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Speaker 1: I think in a lot of leagues, I don't think

513
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Speaker 1: you'll see him go that high. Um and a lot

514
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Speaker 1: of marks I've been able to take him, you know,

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Speaker 1: round eleven, twelve. But that being said, Hey, look look

516
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys. I get people asking me

517
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Speaker 1: all the time, Hey, what are some late round quarterbacks.

518
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Speaker 1: I'm like all of them right, Like, give me all

519
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Speaker 1: of them, Kirk Cousins, Derek Carran, Rod Taylor, Ryan Fitzpatrick

520
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: at this point, just there's so many that that that's

521
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Speaker 1: the reason why you know you're here. In fantasy experts

522
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: far and wide say just take your quarterback. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think why I put this in that is Palmer

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Speaker 1: being under value because he's in that group of guys.

525
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Speaker 1: But what when he was healthy last year, he was

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Speaker 1: a cut above those guys. He was a consistent top

527
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Speaker 1: four or five quarterbacks every week because of his weapons

528
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Speaker 1: he's got. David Johnson mentioned Michael Floyd, Larry Fitzgerald and

529
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Speaker 1: and John Brown, Like what a group of you know,

530
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Speaker 1: skill position players to work with. It's the same kind

531
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Speaker 1: of thing we talked about on a recent pod with

532
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Speaker 1: Drew Brees, how like we should be targeting him instead

533
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Speaker 1: of all his wide receivers because he's got so many

534
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Speaker 1: great weapons and he's an elite quarterback. Carson Palmer's in

535
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Speaker 1: elite quarterback in a loaded offense. I think I think

536
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Speaker 1: we might be sleeping on him. Just to touch here

537
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: should be the consensus five quarterback off the board after

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Speaker 1: behind Cam Rogers, luck or not luck, Cam Rogers, Russell

539
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Speaker 1: Breeze and then Palmer. Palmer ahead of Luck, Yes, I

540
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Speaker 1: think just just it's a more stable Offenser's better weapons

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Speaker 1: and they go deep a lot. He led the NFL

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Speaker 1: last year and that's what he does. And I also

543
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Speaker 1: feel he's better protecting the football than Andrew Lucky. Yeah,

544
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Speaker 1: I think. I think one reason he's his value is

545
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: a little depressed right now is people are worried did

546
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Speaker 1: he go full Jake the Lome in last year's playoffs

547
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Speaker 1: because he was just pretty much a nightmare. But at

548
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Speaker 1: the same time, he had a finger injury that I

549
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: think was definitely a big deal. I'm not worried about Palmer. No, no,

550
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Speaker 1: never mind. Gosh, you know I got I got Luck

551
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Speaker 1: ahead of Palmer mostly because of the upside. Yeah, you know.

552
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: I mean, Luck's gonna run too, He's gonna scramble, he

553
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Speaker 1: can get in the end zone. Palmer is one of

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Speaker 1: those statute quarterbacks. He's a dad. I mean, let's not

555
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: forget he scored that running rushing touchdown or two point

556
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Speaker 1: conversion or whatever it is and then fell over trying

557
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: to spike the football last year. There's there's no ground

558
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 1: game upside. Pal he's not known for his athleticism. I

559
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Speaker 1: would I would also argue with you that the Arizona

560
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Speaker 1: Cardinals have better weapons, at least from the receiver position.

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Speaker 1: I really like the combination of t Y Hilton and

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Speaker 1: Dante Moncrief. But let me use that as a transition

563
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Speaker 1: to talk about the Arizona pass catchers. UM, it's kind

564
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: of a jumbled mess a little bit. Uh. There are

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Speaker 1: three of them that are are very good. The the

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Speaker 1: guy who led Fantasy production last year, Larry Fitzgerald is

567
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Speaker 1: pretty much the third guy uh in this triangle here.

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Speaker 1: And I think for people who are listening to the podcast,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to have you guys explain why Larry Fitzgerald

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Speaker 1: in your mind is because all of you guys have

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Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald third right among Michael Floyd, John Brown and

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Speaker 1: Larry fitz So can you guys explain to the listeners

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Speaker 1: out there, why is Larry fitz not um the guy

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Speaker 1: who should be leading uh this wide receiver trio. UM.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a good story. I And but isn't it

576
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Speaker 1: possible he's old but also the most talented guy he is? Really,

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00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: he's still really talented. He's still a really good receiver,

578
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Speaker 1: and he will still give you decent fantasy production. But

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Speaker 1: last year he ended up leading sort of by default.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have Michael Floyd, who was hurt to

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Speaker 1: start the year, kind of took him a while to

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Speaker 1: get in this wing of things. John Brown, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I know, you know, Harmon loves him and spent a

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Speaker 1: lot of time watching him. But he had some up

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Speaker 1: and down games last year. I mean there were times

586
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: hurt too. There were times when you know, he just

587
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: wasn't really very visible in the offense until because of that,

588
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: the Cardinals fell back on Larry Fitzgerald. Let me tell you,

589
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Speaker 1: if your fallback position is Larry Fitzgerald, that's a go

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00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: to have. That's that's a really good problem to have.

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Speaker 1: But I think this year, with Floyd, you know, hopefully

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Speaker 1: being healthy, Brown being healthy and productive, I think they

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Speaker 1: go back to trying to go with the younger guys

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Speaker 1: as their primary targets. And I think, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: believe this is the year from Michael Floyd and I

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Speaker 1: have I have Brown just a couple of clicks below

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Speaker 1: that they're they're pretty even than me. But I think

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Speaker 1: this is the year we see Michael Floyd break out.

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Speaker 1: So I have John Brown number one among the receivers,

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Speaker 1: don't at me? Uh, And I think it's pretty clear.

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Speaker 1: But the biggest problem for Larry Fitzgerald has actually David Johnson.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned him running routes from the slot, and when

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Speaker 1: all three of the receivers were healthy and Johnson was

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Speaker 1: a part of the offense, Fitzgerald's floor just I mean

605
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: the ceiling just and floor again when those crawl spaces

606
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: just just we're so close. He didn't really have any ceiling.

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Speaker 1: His average DEPTHIR target failed to five point eight, that's

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00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: like Golden Tate levels low. Uh. And David Johnson's was

609
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: three point one, which is one of the highest among

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Speaker 1: running backs. Those two kind of cannibalized each other in

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Speaker 1: terms of targets if you think about just running those

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00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: drag routes from the slot. And I think that's only

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00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: going to be exacerbated this year. Is Johnson's fully integrated

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Speaker 1: into the offense. Like, I just don't really see a

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Speaker 1: ton of upside or even a great floor to rely

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Speaker 1: on with with Fitzgerald. As long as David Johnson is

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Speaker 1: there and the two outside receivers are healthy, right, this

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Speaker 1: is a good stat from our our friend T. J. Hernandez,

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Speaker 1: who writes for four for four UH. In Arizona's first

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Speaker 1: twelve games of fifteen, Larry Fitzgerald had almost thirty percent

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Speaker 1: of the targets in the offense. In the final six games,

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Speaker 1: when Floyd Brown and David Johnson all had their roles,

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Speaker 1: that fell to just ninety There's a huge drop in

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Speaker 1: in the amount of volume he was seeing. And I

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00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: think you're right harm In. The upset isn't there because

626
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: you're just gonna be chasing, hopefully a red zone touchdown

627
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Speaker 1: with Larry Fitzgerald because he's not going to be running

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Speaker 1: the deep routes that Brown and Floyd are and and

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Speaker 1: getting more work there. You're gonna have to hope they

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Speaker 1: get close and that David Johnson doesn't take those touches

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Speaker 1: and it goes to Fitzgerald instead. All right, let's move

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Speaker 1: on to l A Ram shall we. Uh. Matt Harmon

633
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Speaker 1: just wrote a piece. It is you can find on

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Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash fantasy or slash Harmon slash Harmon uh,

635
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: and he just lays to waste. Todd Gurley basically says

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Speaker 1: you should be a last round pick that is not

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Speaker 1: what I said, I mean, just straight blow torch. I

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Speaker 1: see that Todd Gurley's a d PC. They're already that

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Speaker 1: is the sound of the low torch. I see their

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Speaker 1: arm in nine team comments on the piece, I won't

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Speaker 1: be reading it was. I noticed when we were coming

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Speaker 1: up here that it was already in the homepage on NFL. Well,

643
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Speaker 1: when we had that. When we had the meeting this morning,

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Speaker 1: Patrick immediately he was like, all right, so we have

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Speaker 1: some options for the CP harmon, what the hell is

646
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Speaker 1: this piece about Gurley? What like? He was ready for

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00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: that one as soon as it came out. So alright,

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing. Todd Gurley is a top five

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Speaker 1: pick right now, top three pick, top three pick. Um,

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Speaker 1: and I would challenge you to find a draft where

651
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 1: he goes below the top five. Um. So, yeah, so

652
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: he is a consensus top five pick. You could largely

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00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: say he's a consensus top three pick. Okay, alright, so

654
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: here we go. Matt Harman says, what Todd Gurley does not?

655
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Speaker 1: I think you in your piece you wrote somewhere along

656
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Speaker 1: something along the lines of he would have to have

657
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: a historic season to outperform a top five draft pick. Yeah,

658
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: to be I mean, because if you're taking him in

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Speaker 1: the top three as the first running back off the board,

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Speaker 1: you want him to be the top scoring running back

661
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: right now. I So I went back over the last

662
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Speaker 1: seven years and looked at the correlations between running backs

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Speaker 1: that finished in the top five in standard leagues. I

664
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Speaker 1: need even go PPR for you normal people out there.

665
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Speaker 1: So the things that I looked at were target volume,

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Speaker 1: quarterback qality and I measured that by Fantasy points that

667
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: scored per game, and also adjusted yards per attempt, which

668
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: I think is one of the best stats to evaluate

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Speaker 1: your quarterback position, and also overall offensive effect. This measured

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Speaker 1: by Football Outsiders d v o A and points scored.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that just became clear was

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Speaker 1: that the running backs need all three of the all

673
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: those variables to line up. They need to be heavily

674
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Speaker 1: involved in the receiving game, they need to be in

675
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Speaker 1: good offenses. They need to play with strong quarterbacks. Most

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Speaker 1: of the majority of the running backs that finished in

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Speaker 1: the top five over the last seven years. And it's

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Speaker 1: and it actually gets stronger when you measure it down

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Speaker 1: from just two thousand twelve to two thousand fifteen. There's

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Speaker 1: just a strong correlation between top five running backs into

681
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: all those factors. And yes, I am aware of Todd

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00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: Gurley's great I mentioned made sure to mention that a

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Speaker 1: hundred times in the piece because I think he is

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Speaker 1: an awesome running back. But at the same time, there's

685
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: more to scoring fantasy points than just being awesome. And

686
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: I think if you, if you really, if you really

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Speaker 1: look at it, this Rams offense doesn't meet any of

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00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: those qualifications. They are the slowest paced team in the league.

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00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: They were thirty second last year. Jeff Fisher, as the

690
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: league has trended towards more up tempo pass or more

691
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: up tempo offenses, he's actually slowed his teams down for

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Speaker 1: whatever reason. Uh Since two tho since his last three

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Speaker 1: years Titans and his four years with the Rams, his

694
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: offenses have averaged twenty six in the NFL in terms

695
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: of players run. That's just really bad. You don't don't

696
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Speaker 1: get as many opportunities. You also don't have any clarity

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Speaker 1: at quarterback position. Our own Bucky Brooks has said that

698
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Speaker 1: he's shocked how that Jared Goff doesn't look ready to

699
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Speaker 1: be a starter at all. So if you're telling me

700
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Speaker 1: the case keenom is going to lead the offense to

701
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Speaker 1: victory again. Sure, okay, you can think that, Uh, Jared

702
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: Goff would need to establish himself very quickly and as

703
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: a high quality quarterback to help Todd Gurley. And you know, lastly,

704
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Speaker 1: Gurley only had twenty six targets in thirteen games as

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Speaker 1: a rookie, which would be a thirty two pace. And

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Speaker 1: most of the running backs that fit in bad offenses

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Speaker 1: with bad quarterbacks, all of those like Maurice Joe Drew,

708
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: Peyton Hillis, those guys scored Peyton Hillis. I can't believe it.

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Speaker 1: He said, drop that. Don't don't lose your team. Don't

710
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: let Peyton Hillis and Matt and Matt Forte especially, Uh,

711
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: those guys that played with poor quarterbacks are in poor offenses.

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00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: They had an immense target volume. And the Rams brought

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00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: back Benny Cunningham this year and clearly they value his

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00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: ability as a pass protector and pass catcher on third down.

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Speaker 1: He had the fifth most percentage of team snaps on

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Speaker 1: third down, behind receiving backs like Gio Bernard, Danny Woodhead,

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00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson, and Shane Vereen. Then it was Cunningham and

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00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: he's not a big factor but at the same time,

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Speaker 1: if he's still there, his presence is going to take

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Speaker 1: away from Girlie, so he doesn't have that safe reception

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Speaker 1: for to give him a week to week cushion for

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Speaker 1: when the offense is bad and the quarterbacks are bad.

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Speaker 1: You're on, hold on, hold on, hold on. So I

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Speaker 1: said a lot of things. Okay, I'm gonna stop now,

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Speaker 1: let me reset the listeners here because you wrote I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean again when I say he put a blowtorch

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Speaker 1: to Todd Gurley, I mean it is a just a

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Speaker 1: twenty thousand word blowtorch and I read every word of

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Speaker 1: it and it was fascinating. But here's the general arguments,

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Speaker 1: and Matt Harman jump in if I'm mississtating in here.

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Speaker 1: So basically, Todd Gurley not worth the top five pick

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Speaker 1: because bad quarterback, bad offense, bad and slow offense, and

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Speaker 1: not utilized in the passing game. Yeah, those three, those

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00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: three things, basically, and the summary of your yes and

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00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 1: that the key. Those are three of the keyest factors.

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Speaker 1: Most of the most key factors are running back success

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Speaker 1: in fantasy football. Again, to the most recent examples that

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Speaker 1: I could find that that did not play with good quarterbacks,

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00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: especially were Adrian Peterson in the two thousand yards season,

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00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 1: so again like the most superhuman running back season ever.

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Speaker 1: And Matt Forte when he had hunderd and thirty targets

742
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: in Mark Tressman's offense, which was the second most for

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Speaker 1: a running back ever. You'd like to cross now and um,

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00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: what do you consider to be the floor for Todd

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Speaker 1: Gurley in terms of where he will land in the

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Speaker 1: running back rankings? I don't see a scenario really where

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00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: he could finish outside the top six without injury. So

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00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: that's my point. Okay, sorry, what do you see potentially

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Speaker 1: realistically as the ceiling for Todd Gurley? Um? In running

750
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: back rankings this year? Three? I don't see number one ceiling? Soap?

751
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: Soap following along? If you take Todd Gurley as the

752
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 1: first running back off the board and he returns to you,

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Speaker 1: let's just say, for the second argument, number five running

754
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: back potential? Are you mad? I? Are you mad? I

755
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: would sir? If you're taking him as the first running

756
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: back to board, you want him to be more than

757
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: just the fifth best running back because that means he's

758
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: not a week to week difference maker for you. That

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00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: means he is at the at a position that's dead,

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00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: that is, that is voyd of depth. That's fine, it's

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00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: Fine's fine, it's fine from a season long perspective, But

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00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose weeks if Todd Gurley doesn't have the

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00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: floor of some of these other running backs. Like there

764
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: was a stretch last year in three games where averaged

765
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: just about ten Fantasy points. He scored one touchdown, He

766
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: had like a one in that stretch. But that's a

767
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 1: realistic floor that that can happen because he's not vaulted

768
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: up by a strong offensor of past. What that means

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00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: that in theory though, that means there's only four other

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Speaker 1: guys in the whole history of everything for the year,

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00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: at least on this earth. That means there are four

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00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: other people walking this planet that have higher floors than him. Meanwhile,

773
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: there are how are many other running backs in this

774
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: league that have a lower floor than than Todd Gurley.

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00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: If I take him as the first running back off

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00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: the board and he comes back to me with top

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00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: five results, I'm cool with that. So the counter argument

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00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: with with what MG by the way, solid cross examination. Yeah,

779
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: I were like I'm sitting over here, like I had

780
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: a little bag of popcorn. But I'm wishing I had

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Speaker 1: save that for the turn off my mic and wait, um,

782
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: the the MG counter argument and I get this. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the just share amount of volume that he's going to

784
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: get gives him a pretty darned good safe floor. And

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00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: Matt Harmon even admitting as much that the floor is

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Speaker 1: actually pretty good overall. Uh for Todd Gurley, Now is

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00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: it worth a top five pick? Harmon says, No, Here's

788
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: the thing I would take. There's no way I would

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Speaker 1: take him ahead of any of the three receivers. I

790
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: would not in a fantasy and even even in the

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Speaker 1: standard league Antonio Brown, Odell Beckham Jr. And Julio Joe

792
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: that I would take a J Green over him. I

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Speaker 1: would take David Johnson and Ezekiel Elliott over him. Then

794
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: once so the next kind of groups in Mike t

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Speaker 1: is there that you're starting to look at, are like

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Speaker 1: Allen Robinson. Would you take Adrian Peterson over him? See? No,

797
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 1: probably not, because I do think like from a week

798
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: to well, because I think I think Peterson's the same proposition.

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00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: Like what we saw last year with with Adrian Peterson

800
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: was that he had those crater floor weeks too, and

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00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: I just think that because neither one of them are passing.

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00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: It's also the second running back and in fantasy last year. Yeah,

803
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: but again you're looking at it from a season long perspective,

804
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: and I know that that matters. But at the same time,

805
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm more interested in what you're gonna do from me

806
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: week to week, because you gotta win weeks. But every

807
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: but everybody, at some point, everybody's gonna let you down,

808
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: even your parents, somebody, everybody about that one at some point, everybody.

809
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: So I mean, if that's if that is the case,

810
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Speaker 1: if that's what you're worried about, then don't draft. This

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Speaker 1: is this is why you shouldn't be drafting running backs

812
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: in the first round anyways. This is why I'm not

813
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: touching a lot of running backs because they're fragile assets,

814
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 1: because they have this low floor. It's even the top

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Speaker 1: guys like girl and when you get a good when

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00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: you're you're already a stup ahead of him. But who

817
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: the hell projects is one of the good ones from

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Speaker 1: like a clear consensus right now, other than John David Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott, Adrian Peterson. I don't better, but I think

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Speaker 1: I think it ends after Johnson and Elliott because just

821
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: the rest of these guys don't line up the way

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Speaker 1: that you want from a clear top running back. And

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00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller's down there in Houston right now, just I

824
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Speaker 1: like I have have I have Miller ranked over Girly. Look,

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00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: I think he projects more receiving, which comes back to

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Speaker 1: my original point that Todd Gurley is trash. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's trash. I wish wished he wasn't playing for

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Speaker 1: the Rams. All right, I'm I mean you guys with

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Speaker 1: the one's arguing over there, and I'm like sweating back here.

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Speaker 1: So go to NFL at com slash Harmon read the

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Speaker 1: whole thing, hit up on Twitter at Matt Harmon underscore

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Speaker 1: b y B two. Either say Matt Harmon, who's an idiot?

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00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: Or tell him that they agree with his point. But

834
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: let's move on, uh Davon Austin sleeper. But outside of that,

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Speaker 1: is anybody touching anyone else in this offense? Really, godd

836
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: Gurley solid, don't don't go back down that. Let's go

837
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: to San Francisco. No one's else is on this offense

838
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: is interesting at all. I don't care. We're going to

839
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: San Francisco Carlos Hide. Where's he going third? Basically? Overpriced? Underpriced?

840
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 1: How do you value him appropriately priced? I believe he's

841
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: one of my favorite He's one of my favorite players.

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00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: If you're going wide receiver heavy at the top of

843
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: the draft, once you start going, like if you go

844
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: three wide receivers, uh near the top of the draft

845
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: in round four, I really like what Carlos is bringing

846
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: to the table in a Chip Kelly offense. Uh in

847
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 1: round four, I don't mind it at all. Now if

848
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: he's my if I if I'm going running back heavy

849
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at some wide receivers mixed into that

850
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: draft class, I might I might shy away. Yeah, yeah,

851
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I think I think he's in the right

852
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: spot because they're there's certainly a ton of upside, especially

853
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: in the Chip Kelly offense, and we've seen how talented

854
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: he is, but there's a lot of risk because that

855
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: offense can be bad as well, and games scripts could

856
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: go away and he could not catch passes and Shandron

857
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: could be the one with more touches for several weeks.

858
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: That's uh not I don't want to hear that name.

859
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: We know you're scared by all the vowels, James. But

860
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: it's a lot of uh Tori Smith. I will go

861
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: back to the prognosticator for this one. You like Tori

862
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: Smith this coming up season? Yeah, I mean I don't

863
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: really see what's not to like, other other than the

864
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: quarter fact that he's one dimensional and but he's but

865
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: he's not, He's not. He's not one dimensional. He's a

866
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: deep threat, that's his primary game, but he can also

867
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: get open on some of the underneath routes. He had

868
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: a pretty high success rate on slant routes and reception perception.

869
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: He can do enough to be a functional number one

870
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: receiver in this offense, you know, and you don't have

871
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: to pay for him. He's a late ninth round pick

872
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: at best in ADP. Right now, I would I think

873
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: that's a slam dunk. There's no way he finishes with

874
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: less than targets, No way with the pace that this

875
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: offense runs and the fact that he's the most established

876
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: threat there. You look at what's fast X receivers have

877
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: done with Chip Kelly, DeShawn Jackson had a career year,

878
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: Jeremy Macklin had a career year. I think Smith is

879
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: not going to reach those levels. But if he finished

880
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: as a top receiver, it wouldn't shock. So allow me

881
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: to be bitter here, because that's the the one thing

882
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: we keep hearing about is the pace of play, the

883
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: up temp onus of a a Chip Kelly offense, which

884
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: it's great, you run a lot of plays or you

885
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: can go three and out really fast. And the problem

886
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: with this group versus what he had, he doesn't have

887
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: the talent in San Francisco that he had in Philadelphia.

888
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: And I know that last year the Eagles weren't great

889
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: on offense, they at least on paper, we're still a

890
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: more talented bunch than what is San Francisco were they?

891
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: Though last year in Philadelphia, I mean, I like, I

892
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: felt more confident with their running back rotation than I

893
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: do with Carlos Hide. I felt better with their wide

894
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: receivers than I do with Tory Smith. And you're you know,

895
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: you're bff, Bruce. We haven't even gotten No, we haven't

896
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: even gotten to the real star their boy, Bruce Ellings, Like,

897
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I take I take zach Ertz

898
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: over Vance McDonald. I mean, I just think on paper,

899
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: last year's Philly team was a better team than this Niner.

900
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,959
Speaker 1: It's probably but but but like marginally, I would say

901
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: it's not not by a great degree any by like

902
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 1: to two points in man and team rankings. I don't

903
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: even I viewed him the same man. I really do

904
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: like because they were trying to figure out DeMarco Murray.

905
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: I think that set him back offensively a little bit.

906
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: I don't think they have to do that with the

907
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: running back position here in San Francisco. Carlos Hide is

908
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: the guy, um and if he doesn't work out, it's

909
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: just it's not gonna work out, right, um, And they

910
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: didn't have to figure out how to work in a

911
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: Ryan Matthews or or or Darren Sprawls. I really like

912
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: what thet nights and Sean Drone huh, yes, what can

913
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: we talk about the goat Bruce to bring it out? So,

914
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: I mean Bruce Ellington another guy that he has not

915
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: played much at the NFL level, but there's been nothing

916
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: but positive buzz about him. In the off season. He

917
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: locked down the slot receiver role in mini camps, and

918
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: again it's not a direct one to one thing, probably potentially,

919
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: but Jordan Matthews racked up some numbers in that role

920
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: last year. Again, even when the team was bad in

921
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: garbage time, Matthews did produce. He got over a hundred

922
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: targets both both years in his career, playing primarily in

923
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: the slot and then in the off season or in

924
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: the training camp. Once once that got going, then reports

925
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: were that Matthews is or not Matthews. I'm getting confused.

926
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm still sure that Ellington was. That Ellington was the

927
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: clear number two receiver and a clear breakout player. And

928
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: I think that Ellington is actually good. I think that

929
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,959
Speaker 1: he was a good player at South Carolina. I looked

930
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: at him for just seventies the only seventy seven rounds

931
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: I could get for reception perception, it looked okay, that's

932
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: on backyard banter if you want to check that out.

933
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: And I just think that the opportunity in this offense,

934
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: because they're gonna be bad, because they're gonna run a

935
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: lot of plays, offensive players are going to matter for

936
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: San Francisco, and I think that Bruce Ellington is one

937
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: of the guys that could clearly benefit from that. If

938
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: he had seventy catches this year, that wouldn't shock me

939
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: a bit. There we go, Uh, that might be hotter

940
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: than your Todd Gurley takes. So wait wait, I mean, look,

941
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not. I'm not gonna this Bruce Ellens.

942
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: I mean, where you looking at drafting him? Like in

943
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: the MFL ten's I've had to take him in like

944
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: the thirteenth round at best, because people know I like

945
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: Bruce Ellens, He's gonna go draft But but but yeah,

946
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: like in the most casual leaks, you can spend a

947
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: fifteen round pick or or yeah, essentially three yeah, and

948
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe that changes if the drumbeat and you know,

949
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: I always come back to the drumbeat, and the drumbeat

950
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: has been clear for Bruce Ellington. If that continues to

951
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: progress into good preseason performances, uh, then we have to

952
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: probably think about maybe taking him a little higher because

953
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: people will be on him then as a sleeper. But

954
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I I just think that there's there's a

955
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: pretty clear path to playing time, target loads, and I

956
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: think there's a talent there. All right, All right, that's

957
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: that's your Bruce Ellingson update. Everybody see you when we

958
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 1: see you. When week ten when he's a wide receiver five,

959
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Scott, let's go to Seattle. Rawls just

960
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: came off the pup. They said he passed his physical.

961
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: His ADP right now, I think somewhere, if I think,

962
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, I think I saw a Fantasy

963
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: football calculator. His ADP was somewhere in the fourth and

964
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: fifth round. Um. I would imagine that's going to climb.

965
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: How high will it climb? Um? I think before the

966
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: injury reports came out, we saw Rawles going in the

967
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: mid second Well, his value get back up into that

968
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: mid second round, it might. I mean the reports all

969
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: offseason have been Rawles is going to be out the

970
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 1: entire preseason, like we're not going to see him play

971
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: in a preseason game. So I think as long as

972
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: that remains the case, he'll hover in the third or

973
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: fourth round because nobody's gonna know. And then come Week

974
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: one and they plug him in, and then you know,

975
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: people will be like, oh, I gotta bargain. C J

976
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: prosise the goat. According to my friends number one, he's

977
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: the only dude. I've been saying this, but he's hurt

978
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: as well as he not. Yeah, he's out with hamstring

979
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: for seven to ten days. As of last week. He's

980
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 1: the only one of these dudes who have actually has

981
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: a role where the coaches have come out and said

982
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna be our past catching, third down guy, and

983
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: there's some value in that. And so that means Rawls

984
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: is gonna lose some snaps, but it's probably not going

985
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: to be enough to really affect his fantasy value because

986
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,959
Speaker 1: he'll still be like the goal line guy, the early

987
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: down guy. And we saw what he can do. He's

988
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: a great running back. It's just a matter of how

989
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: healthy is his ankle and can he hold up on

990
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: on on what ten months recovery from a shattered ankle.

991
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: The other thing is these rookies. They have all these

992
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: rookies they drafted. Alex Collins is working in with the

993
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: first team in camp, taking advantage of his opportunities. Christine

994
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: Michael is there. I really wish I could play the

995
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: X Files teener royalty and rights issues. But anytime you

996
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: hear I say christ and Michael, just just especially because

997
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: especially because we just sat in a meeting about you know,

998
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: intellectual property, can I at least hum it is that allowed?

999
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: I think that's okay? Do dude, Dude, that's almost as

1000
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: bad as when Galhard does the daily show thing at home.

1001
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I do it every time just to annoy

1002
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: harm and when we watch it then it once he's like,

1003
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: that was so accurate, wasn't it? Like that's the worst.

1004
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: But we're gonna have to clip that one anyways. I

1005
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 1: think right now Rawls is the guy you want. Pro

1006
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: Sise will be your PPR third down guy, maybe a

1007
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 1: flex and standard leagues and the handcuffed Rawls. I think

1008
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: Michael is the target like late in drafts. But if

1009
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: Rawls goes down, if Raws goes down, Michael's going to

1010
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: be the guy. A Christ, I'm not crazy. I don't

1011
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: think I don't think you're crazy about Stop. Oh my god,

1012
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: I was with you all the way franchise. Why you

1013
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: think you had to go and drop the X files

1014
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: on us? Really? Did you see my tweets last week?

1015
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: The truth is, the truth is out there. Stop James

1016
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: Scott stiff arms and spin moves. No, absolutely not. I

1017
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: thought you were gonna say c J. Pro Sise was

1018
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: the handcuff no guy. Well, okay, so pro Sise has

1019
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: a potential to become that kind of bell cow guy,

1020
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: but that's not what they're talking about about. Hims A

1021
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: pass catcher that ye who may line up in the

1022
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: slice was kind of a gadgety type guy who's gonna

1023
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: I think he's I thought he's the goat. Well, yeah,

1024
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: that was the hot Takes episode, James. You can't take

1025
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: all that to heart. He's one of my favorite rookie

1026
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: running backs that I'm going to get him in all

1027
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: the Dynasty leagues, I can. I gotta be realistic. We're

1028
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: gonna move on. No one's drafting Michael. Stop it. He's

1029
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: a handcuffed to Roles. Why not he's not stopping? Yeah?

1030
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: What No? I agree, I'm a franchise. But I've said

1031
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: enough stupid on this. Pott. I'm not being stupid. I

1032
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: don't think you are either. I think I think you're

1033
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: I think you're better, James. You watch better value Doug

1034
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: Balling in the fifth, The truth is out the Toddler,

1035
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: Lockett in the seventh, Baldwin in the fifth, or lock

1036
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: It in this This is about about their ADPs right now.

1037
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: So let's pull the rocket. Marcus. What I mean if

1038
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: you're asking better value, lock it's a better value. I'm

1039
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: going angry. Doug. I think Harmon, we know where your

1040
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,959
Speaker 1: heart's going. Isn't it. I'm gonna say Tyler Lockett. Of course,

1041
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 1: I think I think Doug Baldwin and I like Gosh

1042
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: is hard though, because I love Tyler Lockett going into

1043
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: this year. But I will say this thought, Doug, the

1044
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: the Doug Baldwin Russell Wilson chemistry is undeniable um, and

1045
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: maybe lock It is a year away. I mean, I

1046
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: did see there was a report out of I think

1047
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: it was a scrimmage. ESPN was covering it that the

1048
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: Seahawks held that Lockett did lead all players with like

1049
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 1: seven receptions or something in the scrimmage, and he said

1050
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: it seemed like there was a clear, uh what's the

1051
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: word I'm looking for, Like a clear insistence by the

1052
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: team to put the ball in lock Its hands. So

1053
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: he's definitely the breakout guy. But I think as far

1054
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: as the fifth round pick goes, you know, you think

1055
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: of how your draft goes. If Baldwin is if you

1056
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 1: went wide receiver heavy, maybe he's your third or fourth

1057
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: wide receiver, or even if you got a couple of

1058
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: running backs and Baldwin's your number two wide receiver, you

1059
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: should be able to lock him in for like eleven

1060
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: and eight or nine minimum, and I think the upside

1061
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: is there too. I think the upside for a guy

1062
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: like Doug Baldwin again, is he gonna rampage the league

1063
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: like he did last year? Probably not, but clearly it's

1064
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: a shift in the offense um leading on Russell Wilson

1065
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: all the way, and if if, if he had one reliable,

1066
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: consistent target that he went to again and again and

1067
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: again and again, it was Doug Baldwin. I think, Look,

1068
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: I know it's gonna sound a little out there, but

1069
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 1: I think his ceiling is somewhere in the ballpark yards

1070
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 1: and twelve touchdowns. I really do for sure. I think

1071
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: he's I think he's a fine fourth round pick where

1072
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: he goes. And he's another one that people like, Hey,

1073
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna regress, but we know that that's why he's

1074
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 1: a fourth round picks und pick that that drives me nuts,

1075
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: But it's I think that I think they're both fine

1076
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: values where they are, and I can see lock It

1077
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: out performing Baldwin this year. But but Baldwin is probably

1078
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: the great. I'd like to to modify his Rummies phrase right,

1079
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: the crawl space one that you mentioned for the player

1080
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: with the like I think he's like an an addict player.

1081
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: He's got a little more space in there, but it's

1082
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,959
Speaker 1: still like a safe floor and an enticing ceiling for

1083
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: for Baldwin. You're gonna have to talk to y about

1084
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: getting that copyrighted. I'll shoot him a d M after

1085
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: we're out of here. Fabulous. All right, let's do a

1086
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: family update. Yeah, let's get to it. I know people

1087
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: are excited to know. And if you have not entered yet,

1088
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: don't forget rate and review the podcast and iTunes or

1089
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: your app or whatever. We look through those. And also

1090
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: it always helps to shoot me a screen grab on

1091
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: Twitter because I favored all of them. If I haven't

1092
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: gotten t to here as yet, send it to me again.

1093
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 1: I just said, somebody do that today. I went and

1094
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: favored that one, so we can sift through them. But

1095
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 1: we're going to add our second entrant into every league

1096
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 1: and who wants to start? Guy? Alright's up? We got

1097
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: some so Harmon picked our guy on our previous episode

1098
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: that was our first entrant. We're going with our second

1099
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 1: entrant today. Beautiful. He reviewed the podcast. Look like he's

1100
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: a New Orleans Saints fan. I'll read his review of

1101
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: the podcast. Here's greatest podcast for fantasy football around. Hello, Hi,

1102
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: praise for us. That's good. That's good. Off to a

1103
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: good start. The guys that NFL Fantasy Live are awesome.

1104
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: They're my family. While I'm at work, our family, two

1105
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: guys say, just don't come asking for money. Tuesday mornings

1106
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: go extremely slow waiting on the podcast to pop up

1107
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 1: to hear the guy's thoughts and insights on players and rankings.

1108
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: I would love to join the bearded listener League or

1109
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: the other less manly league wo yes, listener league where

1110
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: Gelhar and Grant belong. That's that's why, mainly why I

1111
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: picked this guy, because he called you guys less manly.

1112
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 1: I don't have to ask you to leave U to

1113
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: to compete against guys who I've listened to for years

1114
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: with would be a great experience. And I would love

1115
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: to destroy y'all and reign supreme as the most manliest

1116
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: beard growing fantasy player on the planet. Hashtag beards, hashtag

1117
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 1: real men have beards. Frank Scandero, welcome to the beard League.

1118
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 1: Hello that blow torches for what he threw at Marcus

1119
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: and may so just like tweet at franchise and I

1120
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: and one of us will follow you and get your

1121
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: email so we can get and then I'll block you

1122
00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: after that. Hey, because I'm kidding about that. The O

1123
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: G League? Do we have one? I think I'm gonna

1124
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: have to give you the floor for this one. We

1125
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,720
Speaker 1: do have one. Um. So this goes back to last

1126
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: week when we announced our first entrance into the O

1127
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: G League. See what what happened was right there on

1128
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: the color Alex gelhar and I in our inter office chat.

1129
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: We were, you know, sending uh nominees back and forth,

1130
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: guys that we thought had a real shot at this thing.

1131
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: And when it came time to announce, oh, I might

1132
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 1: have Steve Harvey did a little bit and announced the

1133
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: wrong name was on the card the whole time. Name

1134
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: on the card the whole time. And so I I

1135
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: said the wrong thing. I heard about it from the

1136
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:52,959
Speaker 1: person who was kind of had had yeah basically yes,

1137
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: who had gotten his heartbroken over the whole deal. Uh,

1138
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: something to the effect that I should have had the

1139
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: tweet pulled. But basically he said, he laughed, he cried,

1140
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 1: he with through a range of emotions, freaking out right now.

1141
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: And so we're about to Steve Harvey, I'm like, by

1142
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: the way. I mean it's a solid review, So I

1143
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: mean I'll read the review here if you guys, if

1144
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: you need a top notch fantasy football podcast, listen to

1145
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: these guys. Thanks. Not only are the experts, but you

1146
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: feel like you're discussing fantasy football with your buddies every week.

1147
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: That works out perfectly. If none of your real friends

1148
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,959
Speaker 1: like fantasy football as much as you do, you should

1149
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: also probably try to get new friends. UM oh yeah,

1150
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: I won't league discriminate. The beard league is a reach

1151
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: for me. I'm smooth faced despite my soul being as

1152
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: bearded as can be. I'll go to whoever will have

1153
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 1: me on their team. So I'm basically the tarot Owens

1154
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: and fantasy football. That means he's going to burn his

1155
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: bridge once he's done with our league. Will he be

1156
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: doing like I want to see that video and we

1157
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: want him to cry? But you know, I appreciate the

1158
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: fact that you know he's willing to kind of be

1159
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: a Swiss army knife and go wherever wherever he can

1160
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: be a fit. If you need, if you need to

1161
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: box jump, if you need to box jump a mailbox,

1162
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm in, which I don't know why I would need

1163
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: that in my life. But hey, but I'm a fan

1164
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: of the pod, would be honored to join. It's the

1165
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: perfect situation. It's like, Oh, Henry and Atlantis Morrisset had

1166
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: a baby and named it this exact situation. Nice archer reference,

1167
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: Take care of guys, keep up some of the work.

1168
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:27,439
Speaker 1: Hashtag Gaskowski in the fifth So with all that, John

1169
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: Williams at Bad Apple, j You're not in. You're welcome

1170
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: to the o g lea. It would have been so

1171
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: much funnier if they're so heartless again, because harm is

1172
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,479
Speaker 1: the same one. You guys are so heartless. That would

1173
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: have been so much funny. You guys ruined a good comment.

1174
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm here for I'm upset about that. This isn't the

1175
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: Feelings podcast. I'm here hartus, and I care about our

1176
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 1: listeners as I care about the listener. No, you don't.

1177
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: I care about the listen about the listener. I care

1178
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: about the listeners. But if one has to, you know,

1179
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: pass away at thepense of my laughter a metaphor. No, No,

1180
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: you don't care about the listeners. You care about the harmonites.

1181
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: On Twitter, James, do you have another entrant to the

1182
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: can I can I suggest to uh, mostly because I

1183
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,919
Speaker 1: will not be in for the podcast on Friday. Correct. Yeah, okay,

1184
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna let you do in. Plus it's

1185
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: sixteen teams. Yeah, so you gotta start. I'm gonna have

1186
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: to get more than one. You gotta step it up,

1187
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,439
Speaker 1: all right. So the first one, I don't have any

1188
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: of the reviews pulled up. I apologize. I will do

1189
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: that next time. I will say this. The first entrant

1190
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: into or the second interrant now into the danger Zone

1191
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: Fantasy League a fellow by the name of David David Roseboro. Uh.

1192
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: He left a review. It was five stars. Good for you.

1193
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: That's great. I wish I could. I wish I could

1194
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: pump it up more. You guys pumped up your guys.

1195
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: So I should have got first. I was giving you

1196
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: that option I should have gone for. I didn't realize.

1197
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: I apologize. You guys are so much more prepared than me.

1198
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: The second one goes to a guy by the name

1199
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: of Clark sky Clark Skyler at cs R C s

1200
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: C h U y L E r N five. He

1201
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: has been a consistent and regular contributor to the Fantasy

1202
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: Live show. We've featured his tweets many times on that

1203
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: helps No One? Uh, and he left a great review

1204
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: as well. I promise you again, I don't have it

1205
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: pulled up, but I promise you it was good. But

1206
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: he has been a danger Zone UH fanatic. He's been

1207
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: a that helps No One fanatic, and he's been a

1208
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: he's been part of the Fantasy Live program for many

1209
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: years now. And uh in both Adam Rank and I

1210
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: are happy to welcome in Clark Skyler into the danger

1211
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: zone Fantasy Dangers alright, pages out, that's good stuff. Should

1212
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,439
Speaker 1: we do daily DAP to get out of here? Were

1213
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: you doing? Were you gonna do too? Paying attention? I'm sorry,

1214
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: David Rossboro and Clark bad welcome to the league. All right,

1215
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: let's do daily DAPs and get out of here. He does,

1216
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: I'll be sling depths depth. All right, daily DAP time.

1217
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: We shall start with the whiz kid from Wisconsin, alexey

1218
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: l Hard, give me a daily DAPH. Well. I know

1219
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: that there was a lot of turmoil around this event happening,

1220
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: and uh it's the organization is rather corrupt that runs it.

1221
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: But I'm having a lot of fun watching the Olympics.

1222
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: Like Saturday morning, I was having my coffee and it

1223
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: was archery was on and ping pong was on, and

1224
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: I was saving the discussion with my friend. Yesterday we

1225
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: went to see the Galaxy game. It's like, you know,

1226
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: the the archer guys, guys might not look like would

1227
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: you think of when you're like an athlete, like if

1228
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: you put them next to uh, like Lebron James and thing.

1229
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: But my god, are these guys doing like other worldly things.

1230
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: You watch archery and you're like, oh, so what They're

1231
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: shooting a bow and then they explain that they're basically

1232
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: standing on the twenty four yard line and shooting it

1233
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: into the end zone and they're hitting a target that's

1234
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: like half the size of your cell phone. Like every time.

1235
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: Every time, you're like, oh, I would have a zero

1236
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: percent chance of it. You could give me a thousand

1237
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: shots with the bow from that far and I might

1238
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: hit it once. And then the ping pong guys are crazy.

1239
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: And I was watching like some cycling and ping pong.

1240
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: I don't have whatever, sorry, but like the same thing,

1241
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: like we I could play somebody to a thousand and

1242
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd scored a point against them

1243
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: in ping pong. One of those, they're good, they're so

1244
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: it's it's so fun to watch, and so like Daily

1245
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 1: Deaps to all the Olympians two because they work so

1246
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: hard and I wish that that organization was run better

1247
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: and treated them better. But like they're doing a great

1248
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: thing for their country, and you know, it's the achievement

1249
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: of a life goal. So Daily Depth to all of them.

1250
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: Marcus Grant, what's up? I want to Daily DAPs A

1251
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: band that I am a fan. I've been a fan

1252
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: for a few years, but the Tijuana Panthers, who just

1253
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: recently put out a new EP called ghost Food you

1254
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: can find it on band camp. And also went out

1255
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: to go see them on Saturday night, which I guess

1256
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: this kind of serves as they doubled app If you

1257
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: will um, if you are a fan, if you were

1258
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and you were a fan of small venues,

1259
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: I highly recommend the Telegram Ballroom just west of downtown

1260
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Relatively new. I think it's only been open

1261
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: maybe a year and a half, two years at the

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Speaker 1: absolute most. Seeing a couple of shows, They're been fantastic.

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Speaker 1: But the Panthers are there on Saturday, did a phenomenal

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Speaker 1: show just a lot, a lot of fun kind of

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Speaker 1: think like indie garage, surf punk rock band, something like that. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, beach Boys with attitude, if you will, Beach

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Speaker 1: Boys with um. But it's just you know, three guys

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Speaker 1: from Long Beach. We've been doing this for a little

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Speaker 1: bit and a really good show. So go look them

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Speaker 1: up on Spotify. Two Juanna Panthers uh and check them

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Speaker 1: out when they come to your town. They do two

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Speaker 1: are quite a bit, so they may come to your town.

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Speaker 1: To keep an eye out for him. The bearded uh

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01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: magician a fantasy. I'm trying to come up with different

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01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: bearded names. Just call me franchise. He already has a franchise,

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Speaker 1: Just hit me alright. My Daily DAP is also music related.

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Speaker 1: I I've adapted Spotify a million times before because they

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01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: just coming out with the cool stuff. They had that

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Speaker 1: running thing. Then they had the Discovery Weekly Playlist, which

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Speaker 1: is a hit and everyone loves. They just released this

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01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: new thing last week called New Release Radar, where it's

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01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: similar to your Discover Weekly playlist, but it's focused on

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01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: the new music out that week. And I just clicked

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01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: it to like check it out to see what it recommended.

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Speaker 1: For me, and I've already had like five songs in

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01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: that playlist saved to my favorites already, so they're on

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Speaker 1: point with that. And uh, Spotify just keeps impressing me.

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Speaker 1: So check out, if you have Spotify, check out your

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Speaker 1: new release radar. You might be surprised. All right, there

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Speaker 1: you go, Matt Harman, what's up? Oh I didn't even

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Speaker 1: know about this release radar thing. He's scrolling around on

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Speaker 1: Spotify right now. Oh man, I like all these bands

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01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: right see, they know what they're doing. This is good stuff. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I got I got to one first one real quick,

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Speaker 1: galhard Knight, humble brag one our beer Olympics on Friday. Alright,

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Speaker 1: So DAPs to our two teammates, Casey and Brian for

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01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: for for lifting the nation of Germany up to total domination.

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Speaker 1: We took first place in three of them. It was

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Speaker 1: it was, it was filthy. By the end of it.

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01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: We were just we were just money money. So DAP

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01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: Star are two teammates for helping us win and death

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01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: for everybody else for coming out all right there? And uh,

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01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: the last one last year, the last DAP I have

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01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: a great article with that. Uh, I was I read

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01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: this week Um, so I was. We talked about Run

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01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,959
Speaker 1: for Johnny earlier. We were tweeting back and forth about

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01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: Stranger Things, which I finished this weekend, and he was

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01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: noting that, yeah, it's really it's really really good, uh

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01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: he even though all the pop culture references fly right

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01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: over my head, surprising no one. Yeah, but anyways, so

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01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: like they're one of the main one of the characters

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01:04:55,320 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 1: in there, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve looks just

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01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: like John Ralphao from Parks and rec It's and I

1314
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: had been thinking it and when I saw he tweeted,

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01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, yes, it's so true.

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01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: And then somebody who follows us tweeted me the link

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01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: to this article outlining this entire theory about how Steve

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01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: is actually John Ralphao's real father, and I read it

1319
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: and it was just like my jaw dropped. It was

1320
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: so hilarious. So if you've watched both shows, definitely go

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01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,959
Speaker 1: on Google and just google's Steve. You know Stranger Things,

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01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: John Ralphao. It should pop right up. It's on up

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01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: rocks or whatever. So it was so it says he's

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Speaker 1: his father and not gen Ralphaol himself because like it's

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01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: his real father, because because he would have been student. Okay,

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01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: the depth that it goes into about like how you

1327
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: know John Ralphao is you know, he's clouded from his past.

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Speaker 1: We don't really know anything about him. But also it's

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01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: pretty clear that he comes from money and Steve was

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01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: like the only one with a nice house. It's crazy,

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01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: it's that's awesome, it's really funny. All right, how about this?

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01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: I will give a daily depth to eat ros Suzuki, yes,

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01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: uh three, and it's good for him. I will more

1334
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: than anything. I really just wanted to get this off

1335
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: my chest because it's an anti adapt to the ESPN

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01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: anchor who said, hey, fifteen years in this country and

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01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: each year, oh has not learned English, which is untrue,

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01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: which is untrue, but my but the point is this

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01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: as an Asian American alright, Like it's like, why does

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01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: that even matter? Like even if he didn't, I know,

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01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: it's not true because each yaro can't speak English. But

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01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: even if even if he couldn't, who cares? Why aren't

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01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: we even bringing this up? Like when you bring it

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01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 1: up in that way. The the the overall sentiment that

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01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: you're making is that somehow each year, oh is not

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01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: a good U. S. Citizen or he is not some

1347
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: kind of That's not what you want from your athlete,

1348
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: that he should learn this language because he's been here.

1349
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: That is so I got so heated about that, because listen,

1350
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: my parents have been here for thirty six years. They

1351
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: struggle mightily with this link, which it's so different and

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01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: foreign to them. Obviously it's also a terrible language. It's

1353
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: one of the most confusing to do. They're there and

1354
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: they're like, we could go on and and like, so

1355
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: my parents struggle with this language after thirty six years?

1356
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: Are they less than somehow? Are they bad people? Somehow?

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01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 1: Are they? I don't understand, Like, I don't get why

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01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: there is even a conversation as to whether or not

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01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: this dude can speak English. It's just to me, I

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01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: don't get it. Man, and and and it's like if

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Speaker 1: an American player was playing in the Chinese League. I'm

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Speaker 1: koine American, by the way, But if he's playing the

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Speaker 1: Chinese League, all right, Like, is he somehow a bad guy,

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01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: a bad person if he doesn't pick up Chinese? This

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01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me. Why are we even writing

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01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: about this, and I got so fired up and I

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01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: got so heated about it, um that I went on

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01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: this crazy Twitter rant. And I never do that, by

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01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: the way, I never do. You fired off that first

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01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: one with one slash question market. I was like, I

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01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: was the stronghold was locked in. We saw the one

1372
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: slash question marking here we go. I didn't know how

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01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: many I was going to fire off. I think I

1374
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: fired off like five or six. But whatever, man, I

1375
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: just got so heated about it, and like, you know what,

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01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: anti dap to anybody who feels like if you move

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01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: into this country and you don't know the language after

1378
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 1: a decade plus, that's somehow there's something wrong with you.

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01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: That's just not the case, man. Especially hey, listen, especially

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01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: because this guy's here playing baseball. Like, if he's a

1381
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: dope baseball player, that that should be enough. That should

1382
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 1: be enough. I get it. If he can't speak the

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01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: English language and he's trying to be a businessman, that's

1384
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: probably an issue. That's probably an issue. He's speaking with

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01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 1: his bat and he spoke three thousand times. He's one

1386
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: of my favorite players, one of my absolute favorite players,

1387
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: for sure. He's got a Bichanon he's like forty two

1388
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,480
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah. Man, he's got it. He's a great professional.

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01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: Uh and he's had nothing, but you know, he's been

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01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 1: nothing but a great professional. Classic and yes, exactly, a

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01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 1: classy representative of the game of baseball. All right, So

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