WEBVTT - Ep. 139 - Joe Buck 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:08.600 Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon, I am your post. 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:12.640 Shane Bacon and Joe Buck joins us this week to 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:15.560 discuss the season it was with our U s g 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:18.759 A Championships the US Open a Pebble Beach. We talked 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:20.840 a little bit about our golf games and how oh 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:24.120 so close we've come to winning club championships at our 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:27.360 respective clubs, and yet neither of us have our name 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:29.680 on a board. And of course we dove a little 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:32.000 into the NFL season super Bowl at Fox this year, 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:34.159 so a big year for Joe and it was very 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:36.000 nice of him to jump on, especially with the busy 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:40.839 week he's got with Giants Cowboys on Sunday on Fox. 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:43.680 This week's Clubhouse episode, as all of them are, is 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:46.919 brought to you by my great friends at titlist and 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.199 the pro v one and pro v one xts. They 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.440 have been redesigned for more speed which is awesome, more 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:56.000 precision which is something I need, and more consistency than 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:58.720 ever before. And if you compare the two golf balls, 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:01.320 the pro v one is a soft feel and lower 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:03.280 flight than the pro v one X. 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It is absolutely worth your time. 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:38.080 A pretty slow weekn golf, really, I mean the US 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.600 Open and tennis is wrapping up, Football is ramping up, 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.160 the Walker Cup is happening across the pond, but not 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.960 much else is going on. Joe Buck joins us and 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.320 talks about our season and all the things that we 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.320 went through in twenty nineteen and the successes we had 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.680 a pebble beach next week. Before we get to the 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:56.160 chat with Joe, I just want to let you know 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.800 next week tune in because Julie Ankster is gonna be 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.440 on to preview the Solheim Cup. Of course, she's the 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:03.720 captain going for three wins in a row, has to 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.520 take a very young team across the pond. So we're 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:10.679 gonna go from Joe buck a legend in the broadcasting world, 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.640 to Julie Inkster, a legend in the golfing world, back 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:15.880 to back Clubhouse podcast, So make sure you check that 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:19.960 out next week. Let's get to my man, Joe buck Well, 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.760 we welcome back into the Clubhouse name you may know. 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.480 He's an up and coming broadcaster for Fox. I feel 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.760 like he's gonna have a great career if he keeps 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:31.280 it going. Joe buck Joe, You've got Giants Dallas this week. 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.960 First NFL game, and I heard eighteen years straight with 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:39.119 Troy Aikman. That's the longest in the NFL. Yeah, it's 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:42.520 kind of it's shocked both of us. We saw a 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.040 thing online and I think it was on Twitter, which 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.760 means there was about a thirty four percent chance that 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:54.720 it's true that Aikman and I are gaining on Madden 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:58.360 and Summer All as the longest running pair at least 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.480 the most volume of games, and I think now withouting 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:05.000 Thursday nights, we're kind of making up ground here with bounds. 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:06.520 But it's been a good run. I mean. The best 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:10.280 thing is, and I think we all have this in golf, 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:12.960 is turning out a really good friends, you know. I 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.200 think that's the fun part of the golf that we do. 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:17.680 And you do a ton more of it than I do. 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:22.240 But it's nice in this business that can be a 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:26.320 little ego filled or can be a little uh, I 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:29.919 don't know, insecurity driven where everybody's wondering you know, who's 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.719 coming after him and all that. We we just we're 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.520 really close friends, and I think that's how we are 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:38.919 in Gulf, and I think that's the only way to be. 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.720 Because everybody's sniping at you from the outside, you might 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.000 as well know that the guy or the guy and 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:48.120 gal or whoever you're with, uh, that they've got your back. 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:51.400 And that's a good feeling. So it starts there and 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:55.000 then we we you know, have the professional relationship after that. 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:56.920 But it's it's good to get along like we do. 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.679 I want to get into the Gulf for in a minute, 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:01.640 but I wanted to just talk about your first game. 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:04.640 I can only assume you do plenty of prep to 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:07.640 get ready for the season. This has to be the 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:11.400 biggest curveball you've had for a first game, I can guess, 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:13.120 and as long as you can remember, outside of maybe 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.640 a quarterback getting injured, going into week one, with the 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:20.760 Zeke news breaking basically today, how does that change your 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.760 prep and you guys preparing for this game with Zeke 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:26.240 possibly playing, maybe not playing, but at least being on 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.000 the team and being on the sidelines. Well, I think 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.599 the beauty of it is that we've got such a 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.599 good relationship, working relationship with the Cowboys, with their PR 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:38.279 director Rich Dalrymple, who was there when Troy was a player. 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:43.000 Jason Garrett was Troy's back up when they were both playing. Uh, 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:47.520 Prescott has become a friend. Zeke Elliott is from St. 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.359 Louis and went to high school little literally across the 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.760 street from my neighborhood, So I think there's some trust there. 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.400 I think they'll be honest with us um And I 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.960 say that because sometimes you go into team meetings where 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:03.240 head coaches and they might not know you, They may 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:07.000 not know what you were, where your allegiances are, and 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:09.440 so they still will keep things really close to the 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.760 vest I think when we get there on Friday, well, 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.000 that's the right questions. Will have what their game plan 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.520 is going in and then you see how it unfolds. 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:21.760 But at least we'll have what they were thinking on 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:27.279 Friday UH as kind of a foundation of whatever we say, 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.200 and then we'll see where the game goes and how 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:33.080 many carries Elliott gets. They love this kid Tony Pollard 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:36.120 who's behind him. Uh, and and we'll see how it 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:38.920 all shakes out. But the good thing is it's Dallas, 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:43.360 so they're not gonna give us the runaround. I think 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:46.839 they'll be really honest with where we uh, where we start, 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.719 and then how the game finishes, and we'll compose too. Well. 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.400 Going back to kind of our season in golf, and 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:58.719 really I would say easily the most the well, most 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:00.880 well accepted event we've ever done, I'd stay with the 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.080 US Open at Pebble Beach and then we talked about 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.160 it was a perfect storm of US Opens. I mean, 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.320 we get a chance to showcase one of the most 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.320 beautiful golf courses in the world, a place everybody knows, 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:14.520 a place that has continued to create these unbelievable championships. 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.480 When the U S g A goes back when you 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:20.160 go through our US opens and you started Chambers Bay. 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:22.200 All of our U S opens have had stories. I 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.360 mean there's not been a single snooze or Chambers was 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.640 great for the drama, of course. I mean you think 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.440 about Oakmont and with DJ and the ruling and nobody 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.960 even knowing where they stood. Then you get Brooks Kapta 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:33.960 bursting on the scene is kind of an unnoted Aaron 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.640 Hills and then solidifying himself as one of the best 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.520 players in the world at Shinnecock, and then we get Pebble, 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:43.800 And I feel like universally people loved what we were 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.160 able to do there for that US Open, and it 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.520 was a collective effort for sure, but it had to 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:50.560 feel for you, I'm sure like it did for us 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:53.160 walking away. It had to feel as good as any 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.880 of them we've done yet. Yeah, I don't think there's 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.480 any doubt about that. I mean I could talk for 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:00.960 three hours on this perfic, and you and I have 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:04.000 certainly talked enough about it on our own when we've 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:07.119 been together at a bar and a booth or whatever 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:10.480 it might be, booth meeting at work, and I think 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:13.960 what we've had since two thousands have seen is exactly 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.200 what you said, a perfect storm. And I think it's 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:20.720 been more storm that it's been perfect. Um two thousand fifteen, 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.040 as you said, with Cheamber's Bay, and the course was 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:25.480 new to everybody, and it had a different look to 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.560 it for U s open, so a gorgeous, wonderful place. 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.760 But when you go in and and all the comments 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.920 are about the greens and the polana and the bumpiness, 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.720 and people are complaining all day and now we're new 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:39.839 and it's hard to follow the golf ball because of 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.640 the glare from the water. You know, you can make 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.960 excuses all day. I think we could have been at 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:47.760 Open my year one. We could have been a wing 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.040 Foot or Pebble year one. It probably would have been 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.880 the same reception right where. I think when anything's new, 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.760 people don't like change, and it takes a while for 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.360 them to get used to going, Okay, the US opening, Yeah, 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:01.199 that's on Fox. We get it back and it's like, wait, 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:04.520 where's Johnny Miller, Where's Dan Hicks? Where are the guys 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.680 that I'm used to calling this? And then two thousands, 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.280 you know, sixteen and he said you just go forward, 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:14.280 and it's been I think for us incrementally better and 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:19.160 for the viewer incrementally more familiar. And then, as you said, 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:22.000 we we get the beauty that is Pubble Beach. I 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.800 thought our truck, meaning our director and our producer, did 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:30.240 an unbelievable job of giving different camera angles, different camera mechanisms, 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.800 like with a drone off that cliff On eight, Uh, 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:38.359 making the golf course look different and even more spectacular 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:42.000 than we see it any other time. And it's on 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:45.800 TV at least once, probably twice a year, and uh, 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.800 we were doing new things. And when Jim dances in 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:52.040 the booth, he said as much, and he meant it. 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:54.360 You know, you guys are showing parts of this golf 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.040 course in this area that have never been seen on TV. 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.839 And most people, you know, aren't gonna be lucky and 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.400 have to go to Pebble Beach in their lifetime, so 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.520 they've got to see it and know it's from television. 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.440 And so I thought the truck did a great job. 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:11.120 I thought we accepted some really great option. Brooks was 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.440 right there basically till the end. And then this great 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:18.480 story of Gary Woodland and this incredible little chip off 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.640 the seventeenth grade. I mean there was there was a 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:24.040 lot there and I did I walked away copy or 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:26.760 that I've ever walked away from a golf event at Fox, 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.200 There's no doubt. And it's interesting when you get a 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:32.800 golf course like Pebble because when you think about golfers, 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.320 even even serious golf fans, if I went up to 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.480 somebody that that was a two handicap that watches every 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.400 week and said, what's number five at Wingfoot, they probably 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:44.319 have no idea. Same at Oakmont, you know, same at Shinnecock. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:46.880 But at Pebble they know because they see it year 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.280 to year. It really is outside of Augusta National and 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.280 maybe the old course at St. Andrew's, Pebbles a golf 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.080 course that people know and they can remember the holes, 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.720 they can remember the moments. I feel like as much 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:02.079 as in golf course in the world. So it's it's 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.440 a little bit of in our chair, sit back and 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.240 let the golf course speak of speak itself. Yeah, I 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.360 I agree with that. You know that that's a really 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.040 comforting feeling too for us going in. You know, you're 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.360 not confused when you see a shot like wait, are 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.560 we at six or we at twelve, you know where 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.839 are we at? Are we on the second hole or 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.600 is this fifteen? I mean, you know the shots, you 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:24.280 know what the golf course looks like, and you could 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:27.080 draw it on a place mat and and that's that's 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.760 a really comforting feeling going in especially you know for 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:35.520 us being still relatively new at covering the event or 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:39.080 covering golf. Uh you know that that's good. But like 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.840 I said, you know, the NFL will tell you that 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:47.880 of their fans experience and knowing the NFL and players 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:52.840 and stadiums and uniform colors and whatever sideline shots come 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:57.840 from television, of their fans in the NFL actually see 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.679 a game in the stadium, and if they do, they're 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:03.640 certainly not traveling around. And I think that's the case 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:07.319 with Pebble. I mean, people know that golf course from television. 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:12.040 It's fun during the program in February. Uh so, I 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:17.079 think you know, whether you see old video of Jack 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.120 Lennon hitting a ball out of the ice plants or 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:24.240 you see Gary Woodland hitting a ball from the rough 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:28.160 in in the same nearby area, it's familiar. And I 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:31.320 think for viewer and broadcast are alike, that's that's a 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.640 good feeling. And like you said, you know, that's the 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.520 beauty that CBS has every year with covering the Masters. 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:40.480 They know every corner, every blade of grass at Augusta 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.160 National and uh, we had a little taste of that 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.280 from being a Pebble Well, you mentioned bringing Jim Nance 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.480 up to the booth. It was something that you brought up. 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.679 You reached out to him. I believe you reached out 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:52.440 to him on social media. I know you said something 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:55.560 on air during our broadcast and I think people are 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.600 a little surprised. I mean, you're bringing up Jim Nance, 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:59.760 who does golf week to week. He does it all 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:01.280 that's time. He's one of the best in the world 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:03.200 to ever do it. Of course he gets through the 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.400 Masters and on and on and on, and he comes 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:07.760 up to the booth and you really you kind of 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.360 step aside a little bit and let Jim talk about 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.480 the beauty of Pebble Beach and you know, a guy 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:14.480 that lives there and knows the golf course like the 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.960 back of his hand. It was a really cool moment, 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.680 I think for golf fans and for broadcasting fans. Yeah, 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.600 I think so, you know, to be honest with you, 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.880 when I was walking back, I think from the practice 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:30.120 round day um that we cover on Wednesday, and I 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.400 was walking up that main street that leads to the 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.000 lodge and coming back the other way in a golf 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.800 cart was Eric Shanks, who's our boss, and Larry Jones, 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:42.040 who's boss one A, and they had just seen Jim 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.720 and Shanks and Larry said, what do you think about 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:46.800 trying to have him on? I said, are you kidding me? 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.080 That'd be unbelievable. And I've kind of gone through this 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:53.880 same the same dance with Vince Scully over the years, 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.400 whether we've done an All Star Game in San Diego, 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.120 then please come down south and do that, or we've 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:02.720 done a postseason in series at Dodger Stadium. You know, 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.640 I think I I refer back to my childhood and 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:09.400 being my dad Jack bucks son and knowing, you know, 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:13.000 the reverence for these older voices and these men that 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.079 have done it for so long. Not to say the 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:17.800 gym's in that category, but he's damn close, and he's 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:21.040 he's the standard for what we do, and he's the best, 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.000 in my opinion, to ever do it with all the 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:25.520 different moving parts that there are now in a golf 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:30.760 telecast compared to golf covered even in the eighties. Um, 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.240 so it made all the sense in the world. I 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:35.600 did ask him on the air to try to put 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:37.680 the pressure on him. I don't know that I have 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.440 to put the pressure on him. I think he wanted 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.920 to do it. And then it became world CBS let 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.080 him do it. And there were certain rules that they 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:48.440 were uh that they put out there, like no more 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.040 than ten minutes. We don't want to actually just at five. 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:54.200 We're like, well we're at least doing ten. We're gonna, 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.119 you know, say yes, but you know, ask for forgiveness 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.960 instead of permission, and then we're gonna So they say, 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.120 know him, don't let him call in a live golf 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.760 action and said that and I don't know who hit 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:09.280 a shot filler Tiger and immediately jumped into calling call 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:11.760 and I got into the talk back, which just goes 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:13.560 to the trap and our producer I was like, well, 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.920 there's rule number two. We just broke. So but that's 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.240 what I wanted. I wish you'd stayed there for an hour. 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.480 But yeah, I think that stuff's good, and it means 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.560 you don't take yourself to seriously. I mean, you're not paranoid, 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:30.440 and uh, I think that's good for everybody. And this 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.280 might be a little inside baseball, but I just thought 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:35.960 it was such an important moment really for our year. 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:39.240 At the US Women's Open, our producer Mark Loomis pulled 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.320 all the broadcasters into the trailer and we watched as 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:45.120 a team the US Open from Shinnecock Hills, and he 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.360 basically pulled together some different moments and some great stuff 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:49.920 he thought we did, and some stuff that he just 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:51.760 wanted to point out. You know, make sure you don't 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.720 talk over this. And you and I had a conversation 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:57.600 after that, and you said to me, and I thought 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.760 it was an unbelievable point. You said, it's really in 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:03.040 warton to make sure you're watching what's going on on 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.600 the screen. And when people hear that, they might think, well, 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:07.680 that seems silly. Of course you're doing that, but you 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.360 know there's five thousand things going on. There's cards, were getting, 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.680 people are in our ear, We're getting text messages. You've 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.520 you've even mentioned having Twitter open one time ever in 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.280 a broadcast. You deleted it right away after that. There's 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.160 a lot happening. I mean, I'm next to Brad Facts 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.960 and he's face timing Tom Brady during the broadcast. You 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:27.119 know everything he does, and then you and I you 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.800 you can miss stuff at times. And I really tried 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:33.840 hard during this season to just watch the golf. And 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.800 it's funny, it helps so much if you're just paying 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.680 attention to the screen. It was it was, you know, 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:44.280 it was so simple, and but I think necessary certainly 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:45.960 for you and I. But but I said it out 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:49.480 loud for the whole group to hear, because you know, 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.280 all all the viewer knows is what we say as 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.320 a group, and they don't know what we're doing when 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:58.120 we're not talking. And and in these big boots that 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:00.720 we have, and and you know, you and acts are 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:04.320 in another location, and Paul and I do holes one 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.800 and two, You do three and four, We do five 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.360 and six and on down the line. And so when 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:13.440 it goes to the third hole, theoretically I could check out, 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:17.640 and you know, text my wife back, or get on 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.679 my get on my social media if I wanted to, 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:24.119 or get on my email and read people's thoughts, people 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.160 that I trust, people that are saying, hey, you guys 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.080 are missing this or whatever it might be. And I 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.960 fell into that trap. The first whatever, it's been four 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.720 years and I had so many things flying around. The 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:39.800 last priority I had was to actually watch the golf 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.560 and listen to the two of you and try to 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.960 for continuity sake, carry it forward when it comes back around. 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.639 And now it's back on the holes that Paul and 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:53.480 I cover. And it seems simple, but there's so many 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:57.919 avenues of information. I just turned my computer off. I 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.680 basically set my phone over in the owner of the booth, 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.280 and I just watched and reacted. And I think that's 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.720 the best thing I could have ever done. It's why 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:11.400 I was better, uh, not trying to cram fourteen thousand 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.800 things in. Just take your time, watch the action and 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.040 react to it. And and that's really I think that's 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.879 really serving the viewer past if they want stats, you know, 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:26.600 stats every once in a while tell the story, but 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:29.600 but sometimes they just get in the way. And uh 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:31.880 so you need to find a balance. And I think 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:35.199 that's what we finally did. Yeah, I totally agree with you. 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.240 I think sometimes there's so many things going on, and 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.119 to your point, you know, when it's your whole I know, 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.879 I'm not gonna say anything. It's easy to not listen, 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.280 but the moment you don't listen, I repeat something you 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.480 just said, maybe he's three or four this week out 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:51.360 of the bunker, or he hadn't Mr Green since Thursday afternoon, 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:53.760 and you say that right after you say it, somebody 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:56.520 at home is they absolutely notice it, and they're going, 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:58.760 these guys aren't even listening, So they noticed that if 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:00.560 we do it wrong, and it's on us to make 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:02.160 sure we listen. And I thought it was, like I said, 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:05.200 it's it's those little prep moments that happened what three 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:07.639 weeks before the US open that help everybody. And I 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:10.280 thought it was a great point to bring up. And 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:12.880 on top of that, if you're repeating something I just said, 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:16.360 or if I'm repeating something you just said, it's taking 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.200 up time that could be better spent on something else. 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:21.639 And it's because because we don't have a lot of time. 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:24.880 You know that. The thing that I was most hit 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:28.719 by year one was you know, you think, oh, it's golf. 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:31.720 I've fallen asleep to this on my couch in my 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:34.640 adult years, and so it's gonna be slow, and it's 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:38.119 actually the opposite. It's way faster than me covering the 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:41.760 NFL or covering major League baseball for sure, because in 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.760 baseball a guy standing at the plate and it's ball one, 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:48.280 strike one, ball two, ball three, strike two, foul ball 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:50.480 follow But you could talk about whatever you want during 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:55.320 that time. Well, here it's dip into a golf hole. 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:59.320 Here's speed second shot to part four. You see a 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.920