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Interesting some very interesting comments made here by 17 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: Trump himself and also by one of his primary backers 18 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: from the last campaign, Mary Maddison, also from his priority 19 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: campaigns as well. 20 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 4: One of his top donors. 21 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: She is very excited about giving him even more money 22 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: to run for an unconstitutional third term. Let's go ahead 23 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: and take a listen to what Trump had to say 24 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: about their relationship and what she had to say. 25 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 5: Gave my campaign indirectly and directly two hundred and fifty million. 26 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 6: She was number one. 27 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 5: When somebody can give you two hundred and fifty million, 28 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 5: I think that we should give her the opportunity to 29 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 5: say hello and Miriam, make it quick, because two hundred 30 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 5: and fifty million is not what it used to be. 31 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 6: Okay. 32 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 7: Now I met the Alan Desho beach and you say 33 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 7: the legal thing about it four more years? And I said, Alan, 34 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 7: I agree with you, so we can do it. Think 35 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 7: about it. 36 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 6: Where's Alan? And then this here? 37 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 7: Oh he had the flights and. 38 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: Think about a second. 39 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, she said, think about it. I'll give you another 40 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 6: two hundred and fifty million. 41 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 4: Wow, So that's cool. 42 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: Mary. 43 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: I'm saying, hey, I give you another two hundred and 44 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,279 Speaker 2: fifty million dollars if you run for a third term. 45 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: And throwing in there, dropping in the Alan Dershowitz Epstein 46 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: associate Alan Dershowitz mentioned as well, we can put d 47 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: one b up on the screen. Apparently Dershowitz wrote a 48 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: book about whether or not Trump can serve as a 49 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 2: third term Trump. 50 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 4: You know, is talking to him about this. 51 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: So you know how much money is enough? Brother? 52 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: You know? I mean, I just don't get you're in 53 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: your what isn't in his late seventies. You're arguing with 54 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: vendors on Martha's Vineyard, Like what else do you need 55 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: in your life to be writing this boomer slop for 56 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 3: a bunch of people to be like, hell, how Alan 57 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: Dershowitz said Trump can run for a third term? 58 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: Also, had anyone noticed that? 59 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 3: She said she talked to Dershowitz in Israel about this. 60 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: It's just a little too perfect. Okay, Yeah, it's just 61 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: too much. 62 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: It's crazy how out in the open he is too 63 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: about like, yeah, she gave me a bunch of money, 64 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: so I guess we should let her say hello, you know, just. 65 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 4: Making it very clear and open the way. 66 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: That the cash for access game works. And of course, 67 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: I mean she's been incredibly important in terms of his 68 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: you know, his very. 69 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 4: Very positive towards Israel. 70 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: He says he's, you know, the best president ever for Israel, 71 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: what his foreign policy there has been, And you know, 72 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: I wish you could just call this Dershowitz book, which 73 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: is titled literally titled could present President Trump constitutionally. 74 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 4: Serve a third term? I wish you could call this 75 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 4: boomer slop. 76 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: But like the President of the United States and Steep 77 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: Ban and some of his other advisors. I mean, they're 78 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: printing out Trump twenty twenty eight merch. This is a 79 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: live question, a real issue, and apparently Trump is interested 80 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: enough that he's actually exploring this with Dershowitz. So what 81 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal says is that he received and 82 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: discussed a draft copy of a book by lawyer Alan 83 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: Dershowitz that studies whether Trump could constitutionally serve a third term. 84 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: In an interview Wednesday, Dershwitz said he told that Trump 85 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: the constitution was not clear on the issue, which I mean, 86 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: if you read the language, it seems pretty damn clear 87 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: on the issue. But and apparently, you know, Miriam's interpretation 88 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: was that Dershowitz was saying, oh, you could serve a 89 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: third term. In a meeting in the Oval office, Dershowitz 90 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: handed Trump draft the book, which is set to be 91 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: published next year. He said the book lays out a 92 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: host of scenarios in which an individual could serve a 93 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: third term. He said Trump told him he planned to 94 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: read the book and asked him about his conclusions on 95 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: serving The constitution bars anyone from being elected the White 96 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,119 Speaker 2: House more than twice, I said, quote, it's not clear 97 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: if a president can become a third term president, and 98 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: it's not clear if it's permissible, said Dershowitz, who previously 99 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: served as a defense lawyer for the president. And he 100 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: went on to say he found it interesting as an 101 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: intellectual issue. Do I think he's going to run for 102 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: a third term? No, I don't think he will run 103 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: for a third term. Then what are we doing, Like, 104 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: why are you writing this book? 105 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 4: And what about Why is he shaking your advice? 106 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: And why are they printing out merchandise and why is 107 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 2: Miriam Maddison publicly bribing him with two hundred and fifty 108 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: million dollars to run again? 109 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: Because it's all about a sink, which we will get 110 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: to soon. 111 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: It's all about ego and all of that. 112 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: But okay, to the extent, why is any of this 113 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 3: even interesting in the first place. People were circulating a 114 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: bunch of clips from twenty sixteen from Trump's original appeal 115 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: talking about how everybody on the stage was bought and 116 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 3: how he had bought those same politicians and that's why 117 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: nobody could buy him. And I mean, look, it's been 118 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 3: eight years for some of our gen Z audience, they 119 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: probably don't even remember that. But that was crazy. That 120 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 3: actually was crazy. That was part of the appeal. Now, 121 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 3: obviously you could point to various different things about how 122 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 3: he didn't operate that way in the first term or 123 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: during the second term, but like this level of rich guys, 124 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 3: just like openly trying to buy the government. Even in 125 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 3: the first term, it really was not like this, I 126 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: can tell you, like it was more understated, you could 127 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 3: report it et ceterable, Like this time it's way more 128 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 3: out in the open, like in a way that again, 129 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: if you're newer to politics, like you really don't get 130 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: how different this is from the first time around. I mean, 131 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 3: Trump at one point spent his own money during the 132 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 3: twenty sixteen campaign, right, it was a very different environment 133 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: this time around, Like the open feeling of selling out 134 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: like with crypto and oh my god, this morning his 135 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 3: media company merged with some nuclear fusion company. You're like, 136 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: what the fuck is happening? 137 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, or like his billions, don Junior's getting money, like 138 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: everybody is getting paid. 139 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 4: It's part of what I mean. 140 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 2: There are many reasons why, like his his rhetoric about 141 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: Somali fraud and whatever. One of the reasons why it 142 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 2: is so galling to me is I'm like, look, at 143 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: your regime, Like you guys are stealing everything that's not 144 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: nailed down. The whole thing is operated as a massive 145 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: multi billion dollar grift for you and your cronies. Like 146 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: that is the core ideology at the heart of this administration. 147 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: How and and your pardon power is being used. How 148 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: many grifters and con artists, white collar schemers have you 149 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: let off the hook? And by the way, rob they're 150 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: victims of ever seeing a dollar of restitutions. So like, 151 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: spare me. It's just disgusting. It's discussing, and you're right, 152 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: you know, it was pretty brazen in the first term, 153 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: but it was like people go and stay at his hotel. 154 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: Now I'm telling you, I'm going to cut you millions 155 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: of dollars directly into your crypto scam. So I'm going 156 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: to bring you a gold bar in the Oval office. 157 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: I mean, the level of brazen corruption is truly the 158 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: It is the worst we've ever had in this car. 159 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: There is no doubt about it. And not to say 160 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: like other politicians were perfect, blah blah blah. 161 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 4: This is another level we have never seen before. 162 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 3: It's never been out in the open where you just 163 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: brought like listen, donors have always been ambassadors. Donors have 164 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: always been at the White House Christmas Party. Nobody's ever 165 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: liked this lady gave me two hundred and fifty million, 166 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: so she lets her buy the mic. It just doesn't happen. 167 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: Think about being a special government and Pat, Yeah, I'm just. 168 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 4: Gonna let you do whatever you want to. 169 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: You gave me money, now go do whatever you want 170 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: to the government mister billionaire, richest man on the planet, 171 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: who has endless conflicts of interest. So from the jump, 172 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: it has just been you know, a complete like theft 173 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: of the public trust. It's absolute insanity. And so this is, yeah, 174 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,679 Speaker 2: another display where you have you know, this person Mariam Maddelson. 175 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: Trump famously said he's not sure if she's more loyal 176 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: to the US or to Israel, and thinks that she 177 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: likes Israel better. And so this is the person who 178 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: you know, he's bragging about how much money she gave 179 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: him in the past and how much money she'll give 180 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: him a gut in the future if you desire to 181 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: run again. 182 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 183 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: Also, i'd never heard her speak before. I didn't realize 184 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: she had such an accent. I'm like wow, I'm like. 185 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: Okay, I got it. 186 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: I mean, just look again, it's shocking, right if we 187 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 3: at the same time they want to talk about Muslims 188 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 3: or any of that. It's like you have a lady 189 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 3: given quarter bill to the president and you hear her 190 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 3: and you're like, what was. 191 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 6: That, Miriam? 192 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: Huh? Do you speak English properly? 193 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: You're like, wow, okay, and you know you're openly advocating. 194 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: For a for foreign countries interest. Pretty wild. Not the 195 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: only wild thing though, that came out of that one. 196 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: Let's put d two Mark Levin, the famous Fox News 197 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: host and anointing Trump the first Jewish president. 198 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen, and I said, this is our 199 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: first Jewish president. 200 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 6: Now he's the first Jewish president to serve two. 201 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: Not consecutive president. 202 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 6: Thank you for everything. 203 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: Wow, I'm sure that will quiet the conspiracy theorist. I mean, 204 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just one of those where you 205 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: put it all together. 206 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: It's just too naked, it's too out in the open, 207 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: and it's grotesque honestly, which we'll get to soon with 208 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 3: the Presidential Walk of Fame, et cetera. But there is 209 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: something about this which is so different from his original 210 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: conception as a politician that if you weren't there to 211 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: cover that, it's almost hard to tell you like how 212 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: shocking not shocking, like surprising, but like how shocking in 213 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 3: its public presentation it is and how I mean, Look, 214 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 3: I can't speak for Maga. I don't know, you know 215 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 3: what goes through these people's minds. I'm sure they can 216 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: rationalize everything, but at a certain point, it's just my 217 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: belief that you know, things like this. 218 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: Maybe they won't make him think he's. 219 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: A villain or any of that, but they're gonna be like, 220 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: h it makes me upset, or this is counter to 221 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 3: his public image. Now, well they still support him, probably okay, 222 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: but he's not running for the ballot. So in the future, 223 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 3: any politician who like like you're talking about the smili thing, 224 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 3: I think the small thing is disgusting in terms of 225 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: what they were doing. 226 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: And I do think there's a lot of Dei and 227 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: a lot. 228 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: Of other liberals don't want to talk about it because 229 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: of their race or their because of their religion. But 230 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 3: like you just said, I'm not going to hear it 231 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: from people who are openly selling partons in Ponzi's to 232 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 3: part to Ponzi schemers. I can't write. It would be ridiculous, 233 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 3: it would be hypocritical. And that's why when you see 234 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 3: it online and they're like, oh my god, these people 235 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 3: are defrault I'm like, guys, like, you know that your 236 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 3: president is also doing the same thing, and you don't 237 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: have shit to say about it, right, we can't hear 238 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: that from you. And hypocrisy is baked into politics. But 239 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 3: at a certain point, it's also about power. You know, 240 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: you're talking here about a bunch of Somali immigrants and 241 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: you're talking about the president of the United States. It's like, 242 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: it's just not the same, bro, and you can't be 243 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 3: you can't be talking about one if you don't have 244 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: the other. That's my belief people have for years. Trump 245 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: has got away with hypocrisy. But it's just my personal thing. 246 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: Like maybe it's just me, uh, but I do think 247 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 3: that something is kind of breaking with Trump and the 248 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: agelessins and the crypto stuff. I do think it's penetrating 249 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: in a way that it hasn't before. And I think 250 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: it's because it's more brazen than ever before. I'm telling you, 251 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: the first term was not like this. It was not 252 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 3: like operationally it was just very different and so out 253 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 3: in the open, the crypto stuff, the pardons and everything. 254 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 3: It's just completely counter to so much of what his 255 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 3: public image was in the past. And even during the campaign, 256 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 3: I've been talking about Biden and corruption and all that, Like, 257 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: thinking about Hunter Biden, it seems quaint. 258 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 4: I meanintings, are you kidding me? 259 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: Right? Which was bad? Like covered it? It was bad? 260 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: It was horrible. Yeah, this you're like if that was horrible? 261 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: Like do we have words for no words for that? 262 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, genuinely have no words and something else, I 263 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: have no words. It's important, Like it's really important to understand. 264 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: These people, Mark Levin, Miry Maddelson in particular, have been 265 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: very important in terms of Trump's foreign policy. Viza, the Israel, 266 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: and Gaza, in the entire Middle East. And they are delighted. 267 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: They are delighted with him. They think that he has 268 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 2: done a wonderful job. They're getting everything they want from 269 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: this administration. You can see that. I mean again, she's 270 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 2: willing a pony up another quarter bill in order to 271 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: get him back in the White House. 272 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 4: A third time. 273 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: And so you know, right now we're supposedly in this 274 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: quote unquote ceasefire. You've had so many Palestinians killed the ceasefire. 275 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if Israel is abided by the seasfire 276 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: literally a single day. And at the same time you 277 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: have just absolute misery D three up on the screen. 278 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 4: I've had these horrific storms. You know, it's winter there, 279 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 4: it's cold. 280 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: You've had babies literally who are freezing to death, people 281 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: in these flooded you know, it's just horrible, Like, it's 282 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: just horrible. And you still have and of course Ryan 283 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: and drop Site have done some of the most important 284 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 2: reporting on this. You still have so much aid being blocked, 285 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: including you know, supplies that would at least help to 286 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 2: ease some of the suffering here as they struggle with this, 287 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: you know, this cold rain coming in and the misery 288 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: that all imagine living like this, like just imagine living 289 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: like especially after all that they have been through. So, 290 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: you know, Miriam and Mark Levin, they think that what 291 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 2: Trump has done here is just great. 292 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 4: You're loving just according to their plan. 293 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent that I mean, that's genuinely what 294 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 3: they voted for. And you know what, they're the ones 295 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 3: who really got what they wanted. So okay, I guess 296 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: we really see who has the power. And it's also 297 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: the fact, I mean the level of defense that people 298 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: jump to for Miriam Adelson because she funds so many 299 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: of the congressmen on the Republican side here in the country. 300 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 3: They talk about how it's anti Semitic to worry about 301 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: dual citizens, like remember they attack Thomas mass and others. 302 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: It's like, guys, Trump himself literally said, I asked her 303 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: whether she cares more about Israel or America, and I 304 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: kind of think that we know the answer. It's like, literally, 305 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 3: he just says the quiet trope out loud, Yeah, that 306 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: they're not that they that they. 307 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: Accuse you of anti Semitism. 308 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: And he still worships her here at the Oval Office, 309 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: I mean at the White House. Isn't she a recipient 310 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: of the Medical Medal of Freedom too from the President? 311 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: Like it's just so naked, so out in the open. 312 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: Remember, And oh, I forgot to mention that that's part 313 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: of the reason why twenty sixteen, he literally attacked Sheldon 314 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 3: Agelson and Marco Rubio. He said, Sheldon Agelsen will give 315 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 3: Marco Rubio all the dollars that he wants to buy 316 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: him or something. 317 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: Now look at that. He called him a puppet. 318 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, puppet, like a perfect puppet for perfect puppet. 319 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: That for Sheldon Agolsen. 320 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: Again, if you weren't around, then it's hard to describe, 321 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 3: like how different it is this time around. 322 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, there we go. All right, let's get to 323 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: the White House. 324 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 3: As if things couldn't get any worse, and as if 325 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: I could not be more personally attacked by Donald Trump's 326 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: renovation of the White House is legalized rescheduling of marijuana, 327 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 3: which is very likely to happen today, potentially not taxing 328 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 3: gambling winning is helping out pornography companies. He has further 329 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: desecrated the People's House with new plaques underneath his so 330 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: called walk in a Hall of fame there on the 331 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: White House colonnade. 332 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: Let's take a list look at some of these. 333 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: This called the Presidential Walk of Fame, was conceived, built, 334 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 3: and dedicated by President Donald DE Trump as a tribute 335 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: to past president's good, bad, and somewhere in the middle, 336 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 3: who served our country and gave up so much in 337 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: so doing. The Presidential Walk of Fame will long live 338 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 3: as a testament and tribute to the greatness of America. 339 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: Dedicated on November five, twenty twenty five. I am personally asking, 340 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: no matter who it is that comes into the office 341 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: next year, we need a ritualistic burning on the road, 342 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 3: but in the newly restored rose garden. So first we 343 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: will plunder the concrete. We will take it, we will 344 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: dig it all up, we will replant the rose garden. 345 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 3: After the rose garden is there, we will ritualistically burn 346 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 3: these plaques and any other such desecrated signs that say 347 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: the Oval Office on the Oval Office or the presidential 348 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: chap the ballroom. We will dismantle brick by brick. We 349 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 3: need like Marxist Leninists to come in here, like Bolshevik 350 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 3: red guard. 351 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: I sign up. I'll be ready. You can give me 352 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: a red guard, give me an armband. I'm ready to roll. 353 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: I'm all sure. 354 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: We'll get the troops together, and we will you know, 355 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 3: by hand, you know, and our socialists, you know, like 356 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: the hammer and the sickle, will come together, no bulldozers. 357 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: We will do it together. 358 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 3: We will rise up together, and we will burn this 359 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: fucker to the ground whenever it comes to the ballroom. Now, 360 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: just to show you the plaque that we have here, 361 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 3: let's put this one up here on the screen. These 362 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: are the plaques that now accompany every president. You know, 363 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: he famously why the gold furnishings. 364 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: Above the pot? You know what I mean? 365 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: Like the flames themselves are already offensive enough, but why 366 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 3: the gold above the said frame? Like? 367 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: Why? So let's take a look at Let's read some 368 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: of these plaques, shall we? 369 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 3: Which Trump apparently wrote himself, This is Obama's Barack Hussein 370 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: Obama was the first black president. Community or It's very 371 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 3: woke of Trump to capitalize black. 372 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: Did you see that? Yes? Very woke? 373 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Thankkenky, Resident Trump for sticking with the New York 374 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 3: Times post BLM style guide a community organizer. One term 375 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 3: senator from Illinois one of the most divisive political letters 376 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 3: in American history. As president, he passed the highly ineffective 377 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 3: Unaffordable Care Act, resulting in his party losing control of 378 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 3: both Houses of Congress the election of the largest House 379 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 3: Republican majority since nineteen forty six. He presided over a 380 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 3: stagnant economy, economy capitalized for no reason whatsoever, approved the 381 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 3: terrible Iran Duclear Deal, and signed the one sided Paris 382 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 3: Climate Accords, both of which were later terminated by President 383 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 3: Donald J. 384 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 1: Trump. 385 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 3: Under Obama, the ISIS Caliphate spread across the Middle East, 386 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: a collapse into chaos. Russia invaded and took Crimea and 387 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 3: Ukraine crippled small businesses with crushing regulation. 388 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: Environment blah blah blah. 389 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: Obama also spied on the twenty sixteen presidential campaign of 390 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: President Trump and presided over the what was that the 391 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 3: creation of the Russia Russia Russia hoax? The worst political 392 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 3: scandal in American history history capitalized, He handicapped success Hillary, 393 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 3: his hand picked successor, Assasid handicaps Well maybe Hilary Rodham 394 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: Clinton would then lose the presidency to Donald J. 395 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: Trump. 396 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: So it seems very neutral, very now historically accurate. 397 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 3: Let's say, even if it wasn't neutral, all right, could 398 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 3: we at least have it be written better, like, you know, 399 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 3: grammatically correct, maybe you know, just maybe a little bit 400 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: more dignified or something a little a little briefer, Yeah, briefer, 401 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 3: very lengthy, lots of run on sentences. 402 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: Let's go to the next one. 403 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: Rid of the character limit on Twitter. Here is continues 404 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 2: to bleed over here. 405 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 3: Joe Biden, sleepy Joe Biden was by far the worst 406 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: president in American history. Taking confidence as a result. Look, 407 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 3: I hate Biden. I wouldn't even call the worst president 408 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 3: of American history. Was the result of the most corrupt 409 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: election ever seen in the United States. Oversaw a series 410 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: of unprecedented disasters that brought our nation. His politic policies 411 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 3: caused the highest inflation capitalized ever recorded, leading the US 412 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: dollar dollar capitalized to lose more than twenty percent of 413 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 3: its value in four years. 414 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: His green new scam surrendered America. 415 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 3: Okay, I think everybody gets the idea for what we've 416 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 3: got there. 417 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 4: He even gets into the debate. 418 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, gets into the debate, the famous debate. Put E 419 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 3: four up there on the screen if there was any 420 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 3: doubt whatsoever. White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt confirming quote, 421 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: the plaques are eloquently written descriptions of each president and 422 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: the legacy they left behind. As a student of history, 423 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 3: many were written directly by. 424 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: The President himself. We know, we know, ma'am. 425 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 3: Thank you for confirming that ballroom update for everybody out there, 426 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 3: Let's put this one up here on the screen. New 427 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 3: model that was displayed in President Trump's oval office, so 428 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 3: you can see the campus. So we've got the West Wing, 429 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 3: you know, there you go get the iconic White House. Really, whoa, 430 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 3: what is that monstrosity that's sitting there? Oh, that's the 431 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 3: ball Do you see how much bigger the ballroom is 432 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 3: than the White House. 433 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: I'm scared to like get a new architect because the 434 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: original one was like I'm not doing. 435 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 3: It's like, I'm not doing this. They actually started beefing. 436 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 3: For anybody wondering, the cost may now actually be four 437 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: hundred million. Let's go put that next one up there 438 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 3: on the screen. This is an increase I believe in 439 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 3: about one hundred and fifty million since the last time 440 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 3: that it had previously had been talked about. So yeah, 441 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 3: that's we're talking about four hundred million dollars, four hundred 442 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: million dollars for the ballroom being privately done or whatever 443 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 3: by these multi billionaires to desecrate the White House campus. 444 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: And unfortunately, this is a little Nimby cell for all 445 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: of you right now. Unfortunately, the White House campus and 446 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 3: a few other things under control of the president do 447 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 3: not have to go through any historical preservation or architectural review. 448 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 3: They're basically under the total purview of the executive. The 449 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: National Historical Preservation actually tried let's put this up here 450 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 3: on the screen that would have blocked the construction of 451 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 3: the ballroom, but ended up overruling them and denying the 452 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: motion in order to do so. This is shocking, and 453 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 3: actually we need to make sure that this never happens again. 454 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 3: After we dismantled the ball room, by the way, after 455 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 3: we dismandled the ballroom, we're going to say nobody can 456 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 3: ever touch it again. And then it actually used to 457 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 3: go through some architectural review. Now people may think that 458 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: this is some pet project and all of that, But 459 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 3: the reason why I think it's fun to include in 460 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 3: the show is what we learned about through those word 461 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 3: clouds and through polling. This shit resonates in a way 462 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 3: that I never thought that it would. And yeah, I 463 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 3: think there's a small seat conservatism that a lot of 464 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: people feel where they're like, oh, this is not about you. 465 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 3: This is not about like the White House is literally 466 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 3: not about you. And then whenever it comes to the 467 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 3: plaques making it it's not about overtly political, it's just 468 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 3: overtly Trump Like he's like, I am going to make 469 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: the colonade so petty, right, because what is yes, the pettiness, 470 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 3: which is a direct expression of Donald Trump. But what 471 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 3: those photos that come out of the Colonnade. It becomes 472 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: a place where everyone's photo. 473 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: Who's taken there? You know, I have it's not about me. 474 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 3: I'm seeing people who if the photos that are taken there, 475 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 3: it's about like that was at the White House, but 476 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: now it's about the Trump House, right from the Rose 477 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: Garden to the Colonnade to the goal to the Oval office. 478 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: He's like, this is about me. 479 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 3: And that's what I think is resonating in terms of 480 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 3: its takeover across the country. Call me a shit lib 481 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: and all that don't care, Like it's it's I don't 482 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 3: care whether it's Trump or anybody else. It's a monstras right, 483 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 3: Like That's the point that I think a lot of 484 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 3: people are resonating with is they can see this as 485 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 3: a direct obsession of the president while they feel like 486 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 3: they're you know, the economy is slipping away and that 487 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 3: this is your overall priority. So that's why, you know, 488 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 3: I'm pleasantly surprised to see that a lot. 489 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: Of people care. A lot of people people care a 490 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: hell of a lot more than I thought. 491 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting, it's very interesting. 492 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 2: What breaks through to the Memoriason really gets you know, 493 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 2: like as its cultural moment. But in terms of the plaques, Listen, 494 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 2: it's one thing when you see this bullshit from him 495 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: on Twitter r Right, it's Twitter. Twitter is not sort 496 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: of inherently undignified. Right, We're talking about the White House here, 497 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 2: and now you're putting some Twitter esque or true Social 498 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 2: esque bullshit on an official plaque at. 499 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 4: The White House. 500 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 2: And it's so in his leg I mean, it's it 501 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 2: sounds and reads like he literally did post it on 502 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 2: True Social and now this is what you're doing to 503 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: the people's house. Yeah, it's so incredibly petty, it's so small, 504 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: it's so undignified for the office, and you know, I 505 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 2: think it just makes Americans feel like, what have we 506 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: come to? What have we come to that this is 507 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 2: what's going on in the White House with our president, 508 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: that this is the man who is leading, you know, 509 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: a country that many people see as the greatest on 510 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: earth and through their like American exceptionalist lens. So, yeah, 511 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 2: I do think these kind of things too. It's very like, 512 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 2: it's very visual, it's very visceral, all of that, and 513 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: it speaks, as you were saying, sober too, the fact 514 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 2: that like this is what he's spending his actual time 515 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 2: in brain share on and then meanwhile he's like rushing 516 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: through some bullshit speech about the economy because he really 517 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: doesn't give a shit and he thinks that everything is fine. 518 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, at least that's the way that comes off. I 519 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 3: mean there's no defense, okay. And this is why it's 520 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 3: like this needs to go period, Like we cannot have this, 521 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: and we need nimbism to fully come into effect and 522 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 3: be like nobody gets to touch the White House within 523 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 3: an insane architectural review process. 524 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: Between can't handle this. 525 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 4: Between that and the data centers becoming more. 526 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 3: PRESI so the thing is nimby gets a knock and 527 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,479 Speaker 3: I get it is that it is often weaponized by 528 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 3: the landowner class in San Francisco. 529 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: The rich people want to ptect their property values. 530 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 3: Fine, but the fundamental idea behind nimbi is people who 531 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: live somewhere get to control the shit. 532 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: That happens in their neighborhood. And that's true. 533 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: I mean it should be the most true for public resource. 534 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 3: We're not even talking about private land here. We're talking 535 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 3: about public land, like publicly owned, taxpayer funded land and 536 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 3: buildings which are not just iconic, belong to all of us. 537 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: That's the whole purpose. One of the things tragedies at, 538 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: unfortunately for the White House, is that people can't really 539 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 3: get that close to it anymore, you know, with nine 540 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 3: to eleven and Boston bombing and all that stuff. 541 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: Like I've watched it happen over the years. 542 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 3: You used to be able to go up to the fence, 543 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 3: and now you can't even get close. And the more 544 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 3: that it becomes securitized and people get farther away from it, 545 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 3: you don't feel the connection that you deserve. In my opinion, 546 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 3: everybody should be able to go up to the fence 547 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 3: at the very least and take a picture, you know 548 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 3: if they want to, or easily be able to get 549 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 3: a tour, because the history is yours, it's not theirs. 550 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 3: That's the whole point, and I think that's what it inverts. 551 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 3: It's very sad, honestly. I was just looking at photos 552 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: yesterday from the East Wing. I was like, oh my god, 553 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 3: I can't. 554 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: Believe this is gone. I can't believe it. 555 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 3: And it's one of those where they have I think 556 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 3: they don't know what they're playing with. They really believed 557 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 3: that they could just do this and nobody would care. 558 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 3: And then when those photos started to come out of 559 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: the demolition and every I mean, those went very viral. 560 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And because. 561 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 4: Trump started to realize because he banned. 562 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because he banned photographs of the East Wing, he. 563 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: Kind of started to get like, oh, this doesn't this 564 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: doesn't look great. I mean, now the thing that connects 565 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 2: to the story about him like exploring a third term, 566 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: because what you really think this guy is like building 567 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: this gigantic ballroom and he intends to just like step 568 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 2: aside peacefully when his term is over. 569 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 4: Doesn't really feel like it, does it. 570 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: That's right. 571 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: So we had a big meeting this week between Canis 572 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: Owens and Erica Kirk. Candace Man her her streams have 573 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 2: exploded in popularity, talk about things that have sort of 574 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: like broken containment. She has, you know, I mean, she's 575 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: created this whole true crime mystery series out of the 576 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: public assassination of her friend Charlie Kirk, and you know, 577 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 2: has been saying very you know, suggestive things about Erica Kirk, 578 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: very aggressive things about turning Point Usa, et cetera. 579 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 4: There was originally supposed to be they wanted. 580 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: To do a live stream with her and you know, 581 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 2: did it in kind of a shady way where she 582 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: couldn't make it on that day. And then they were like, oh, 583 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: she doesn't want to do it, and she said I'd 584 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: do it remotely whatever, So they scrapped that plan, and 585 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: Erica Kirk suggested after her you know, media tour in 586 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 2: her town hall and all of that, lets you and 587 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: I have a private meeting. 588 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 4: So I'll show you in a minute. 589 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 2: The candae Owen show after the Erica Kirk meeting, where 590 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: she kind of did back down from some of her 591 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: stuff and her audience was very not happy about that. 592 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 2: But after all of this, she also went on with 593 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: Peers Morgan where they argued about some of the conspiracy 594 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: theories that she has been floating and you know putting 595 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 2: forward on her show. Me give you a sense of 596 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 2: how that went. This is basically I did watch the 597 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: whole thing. This is basically kind of emblematic of the 598 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 2: entire hour where Peers is basically like, so what do 599 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 2: you actually think happened and what evidence do you. 600 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 4: Have for it? 601 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 2: And Candice just is you know, talking very fast and 602 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: kind of spinning her wheels the whole time. Let's take 603 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: a listen to F one. 604 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 8: I want to get to the reality of what you're 605 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 8: actually saying. So when you say that somebody at Turning Point, USA, 606 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 8: Charlie's company was complicit in his murder? 607 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 6: Who who was? 608 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 9: I believe that there were multiple people at Turning Point 609 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 9: who are, as I have said many times my exact words, 610 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 9: aren't they are engaged in a cover up of what 611 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 9: happened to Charlie in that day. 612 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 6: Now, but who was involved in his murder? 613 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 1: I didn't say that they murdered Charlie. 614 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 6: You said Turning Point were complicit in his murder. 615 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 9: No, my exact sentence that I've said was that there 616 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 9: were people at Turning Point who are engaged in a 617 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 9: cover up. 618 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: I believe thorally. 619 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 6: You didn't say that. You said literally did say that. 620 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 8: You said there were people at Turning Point complicit in 621 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 8: is murder. 622 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 9: Okay, that's what you said when you and I were discussing. 623 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 9: That's why I said, let's go back. I was applying 624 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 9: the logic of a conspiracy to JFK. I said, Okay, JFK, 625 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 9: you have people that are complicit. Of course, if you 626 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 9: apply that logic, if there's a conspiracy, there's going to 627 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 9: be multiple people that are going to be complicit by 628 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 9: the time in order for a large stage murder. As 629 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 9: do I think someone at Turning Point pulled the trigger? No, 630 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 9: obviously I don't make so much anybody Turning Point? 631 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 6: Did anybody Turning Point? 632 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 8: Did anybody at Turning Point in your opinion, know that 633 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 8: Charlie Kirk was going to be murdered? 634 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 9: There is specifically two people at Turning Point USA, and 635 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 9: I have communicated that information to Erica and justin strife 636 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 9: that I would not be surprised if they had for 637 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 9: knowledge of Charlie Kirk being assassinated. I'm not going to 638 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 9: name I am not going to name those people, okay, 639 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 9: because it's not right for me to name those people 640 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 9: until I know for a fact that. 641 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 6: Did you give the names too? Did you give the 642 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 6: names to Erica? 643 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 4: Yes, you did. 644 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 8: I gave the names to Erka of two employees, current 645 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 8: employees at Turning Point, who you believe were involved in 646 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 8: the preparation for the murder of Charlie Kirk. 647 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 6: Is that what you're saying. 648 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 9: I told them that if if I were in your shoes, they. 649 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: Would these would be two employees that I would look further. 650 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 8: Into what evidence do you have that they had any 651 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 8: prior knowledge of the murder? 652 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 9: Because I don't have concrete evidence is the reason why 653 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 9: I'm not naming them. 654 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 8: So you're you're telling the widow that these two people 655 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 8: may have been involved in the murder. 656 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 4: So this is basically how it went. 657 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of talk of Egyptian planes 658 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: and all the rest, the French Foreign Legion and all 659 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: of that, right, and I don't know this is it 660 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: actually like it's it feels very frivolous to talk about this, 661 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 2: but it actually is really important for a number of reasons. 662 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: Number one, she's created a lot of problems on the right, 663 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: for the right because after Charlie Kirk was first of all, 664 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: I mean they you know, they really were trying to 665 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: consolidate this, you know, this power grab. And look, they 666 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 2: have a storyline Tyler Robinson, he has the trans girlfriend, 667 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: he's radicalized, and then Candice comes in and through the 668 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: opening of the investigation is genuinely a mess, as apparently 669 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 2: every investigation Cash Hotel is even remotely involved with him. 670 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: Round Shooter Staw on the Loop, they talked about that. 671 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 4: The lead with the MIT shooter as well. 672 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 2: I mean, there's like you see these images of FBI 673 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: agents just like shuffling around in the snow Danngino's I 674 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: mean it's just unbelievable, right, and he's flying around and doing. 675 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 4: Podcasts with his girlfriend, etcetera. 676 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 2: So the whole thing was the investigation was a mess 677 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 2: from the start, all sorts of mistakes in the handling 678 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: said he had a guy and they didn't have a guy. 679 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: You had that weirdness with the one guy who stood 680 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: up right away. You've got questions still about Okay, was 681 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 2: you know, did he really use the rifle they're claiming, 682 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: and was this really you know, the type of round 683 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 2: that he used, and all sorts of things that would 684 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: sort of naturally arise in this and then compounded by 685 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: the fact that you have this totally shamball like joke 686 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 2: of an FBI director. So Candice jumps in to fill 687 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: this void. And so instead of having this like you know, 688 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 2: consistent sort of conservative narrative in the way that conservative 689 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: media is usually very good at, like here's our line 690 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: and we're sticking to it. Instead, she's asking, you know, 691 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 2: asking all these questions and the Egyptian planes and like 692 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 2: going all in on all of it maybe it's Israel, 693 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: and maybe Egypt's involved, and maybe France is involved, and 694 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 2: maybe the administration, maybe Erica Kirks and maybe TPUSA was 695 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 2: directly involved. And so she has just created this absolute 696 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 2: mess for the right. And at the same time, I 697 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 2: think there's also a lot of jealousy. Frankly that her 698 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 2: streams are gigant, I mean truly gigantic, the audience that 699 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 2: she has gained off of speculation about the murder of 700 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: her friend. So now you've got this fight between her 701 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 2: and Timpoole, And it also comes at a time when 702 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 2: there is just you can't even keep track of who's 703 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 2: mad at whom and who's fighting with whom over all 704 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 2: sorts of like personality based even mostly or not some 705 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 2: of its policy based, with most of his personality based 706 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: beefs and grievances that are all coming to the surface. 707 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 4: And she's really like a central actor in all of this. 708 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 3: Oh it's great. I mean again, we can't overstate the reach. 709 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 3: She's got millions of subscribers on YouTube. She's doing more 710 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 3: in single live streams than we'll do in a day. 711 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: Okay, Like she's big. 712 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: We'll have currently like hundred thousand people watching her stream 713 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: and that is massive. 714 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 6: It's gigantic. 715 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 3: It's orders of magnitude bigger than most people can pull 716 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 3: who are in politics. Right, That's something that like some 717 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 3: big time streamers might be able to get in a 718 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 3: different circumstances. 719 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: So, yeah, I mean the right wing thing. You're definitely correct. 720 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 3: I also think what your description of true crime was 721 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 3: the best one. Yeah, And that's why, you know, there's 722 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 3: been all this discussion lately about Candice's female audience. It's like, well, 723 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 3: have you ever looked at the demographics of true crime? Like, 724 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 3: come on, guys, who do you think is watching Nancy 725 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 3: Grace or any of these other shows back in the day. 726 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 3: This is a long time kind of female obsess And 727 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 3: then you have Candae, who's the perfect messenger. 728 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: You can't deny her talent. 729 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 3: She's unbelievable, like charismatic, and her ability to convey when 730 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 3: she wants to, and she can just you know, she 731 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 3: looks directly into the camera, her fight like presentation, all 732 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 3: of that. 733 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: She's very very powerful. I do think she'll also just 734 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: make some shit up. She'll just go for it. 735 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 2: She will just make some shit up. That's do that 736 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 2: something came to her in a dream, and therefore it 737 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 2: must be true. 738 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 3: This is what I was about to get to with 739 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 3: the independent media, like kind of Venezuela. Yesterday the phone lines, 740 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 3: people were going off the hook on Venezuela, and people 741 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 3: who don't know how to do reporting just roll with it. 742 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 3: This is not a knock on anti war because they're 743 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 3: actually do reporting, but everybody else just says shit. They'll 744 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 3: be like, oh, this is in this guys, like you 745 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 3: actually need to learn Maybe this is just because of 746 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 3: the background that we came up with. Facts are things 747 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 3: that you can verify. You can't just go off of 748 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 3: single sources. Single sources lie to you all the time. 749 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 3: I've gotten you know, I'm not even gonna go into 750 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 3: it in terms of Venezuela, but just in terms of 751 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 3: I hear stuff all the time. 752 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't report it here on the show because you can't. 753 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 3: I only ever go and publish something or say something 754 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 3: definitively with this is what I've heard when I've heard 755 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 3: it from multiple people or people directly in the room 756 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 3: with somebody. And even then what you need to do 757 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 3: is follow up with like when you're gonna make explosive claims, 758 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 3: especially around private individuals, you have to make comment, you 759 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 3: have to give them a chance to respond, you have 760 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 3: to make sure that their side is presented. This is 761 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 3: just from a legal perspective in terms of like defamation law, 762 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 3: but beyond that, it's irresponsible. And as we all saw yesterday, 763 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 3: you can't just go out and claim off of single sources. 764 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 3: Venezuela's war is coming tonight like these are deeply consequentially 765 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 3: your warrants matter. 766 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. On Iran. I had the 767 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: fact that we were gonna bomb Iran. 768 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 3: I basically had it about three hours before that it happened, 769 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 3: but it wasn't one hundred percent sure, which is why 770 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 3: I never came and did it for breaking points and 771 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 3: I told all of you behind the scenes, was like, hey, 772 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 3: I'm here and it's a done deal, but for midnight Hammer. 773 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: But you can't do that. And there's a reason. 774 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 3: And what I think that a lot of these people are, 775 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 3: you know, playing in is first of all, are acting 776 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 3: like defamation a lot doesn't exist, which listen, people, you're 777 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 3: all going to find that one out the hard way. 778 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: Good luck with that one. 779 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 3: But second is that it's irresponsible because we all have 780 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 3: trust in audiences. 781 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: You and I both know. 782 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 3: If you know, I could have thrown caution into the 783 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 3: wind and done that video on Iran would have gotten 784 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 3: a lot. 785 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: I'll give you another one. 786 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 3: I had Pete Hegseth for Secretary of Defense. I had 787 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 3: that an hour before it was reported. Still only single 788 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 3: source can't do it, Okay, just can't. And there's even 789 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 3: though I'm sure we could have made a lot of money. 790 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 3: We could have you know, gotten scoops and all that stuff. 791 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter because the process is a process. You 792 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 3: don't throw it out the window. And unfortunately this is 793 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 3: not just Cannas, this is like an entire ecosystem is 794 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 3: you know, is just reporting or wildly speculating all of 795 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 3: these things in public. We like Cannice had trust with 796 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 3: a large audiences over Israel fairly. I think actually she 797 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 3: was one of the people who really was coming out 798 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 3: hard about the Israeli government about Gaza, So she gained 799 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 3: that dissident trust that you and I have to a 800 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 3: limited extent with also a lot of other people. 801 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: And I understand the responsibility. 802 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,439 Speaker 3: That I have to those people, but I think taking 803 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 3: advantage of that not just for the Charlie Kirk thing. 804 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 3: But to wildly and ruthlessly just throw that out the 805 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 3: window for whatever you personally, you know, happen to have 806 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 3: a Sumson crusade is really bad. 807 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: And I see this happen not just with. 808 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 3: Cannas with so many other people who get addicted to 809 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 3: this shit on the internet. Right, reporting is real, standards 810 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 3: should be real. I'm not saying that there's some law 811 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 3: or anything around it outside of defamation law, which does exist, 812 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 3: but you know, we do have a responsibility and I 813 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 3: think that's something that you know, watching the TPUSA thing. 814 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 3: I mean again, look, you can you can ask all 815 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 3: the questions you want about thirty odds six bullet and 816 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 3: apparently everybody's a neck expert now whenever it comes to hunting, 817 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 3: Like I'll leave that to the forensic people at trial. 818 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 3: Tyler Robbinson's people can present that at trial. I'd love 819 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 3: to see what the ballistics experts and all that saying, 820 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 3: and we'll leave it to a jury of his peers 821 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 3: to decide whether that's legitimate. And I'm not saying nobody 822 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 3: has a right not to speculate or any of that, 823 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 3: But when you ruthlessly and recklessly just speculate as fact 824 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 3: and imply, let's say that people are involved in assassin 825 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 3: like this is real life shit. 826 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 1: That's where I. 827 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 3: Just think it's so irresponsible not to say not to 828 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 3: question the FBI. Always question the FBI always, But like not, 829 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 3: I'm not so great big defender of TPUSA. I'm not 830 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 3: going to speak at America Fest. I don't really care 831 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 3: what happens to them, to be honest with you, Yeah, 832 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 3: it's just like there are people's lives here who are 833 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 3: at stake and who work in the organization. 834 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: But more importantly, it's. 835 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 3: About the trust that we have because you know you 836 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 3: and I report on a lot of controversial and conspiratorial 837 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 3: stuff and I know the audience that that can attract, 838 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 3: but I will never take them down a road unless 839 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 3: I really not just believe it, but have it confirmed. 840 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 3: And so you have a lot of trust with people 841 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,919 Speaker 3: out there over issues like It'd be a lot easier 842 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 3: if I could just be like, yeah, Epstein one hundred 843 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 3: percent worked for Israel. I mean kind of right, and 844 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 3: I'll get you the evidence for that. But I didn't 845 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 3: say it six months ago. I didn't have the evidence, 846 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 3: I didn't have the emails. Right with Ryan would have 847 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 3: been easier, would have made a shitload more money if 848 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 3: I just said, yeah, one hundred, but we don't do 849 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 3: that here, right, And even though it would be a 850 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 3: lot easier if we could, so, I like, I know 851 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 3: this is long winded, but like that's kind of my 852 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 3: biggest disappointment, not which is with Candice, but with this 853 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 3: entire ecosystem around just Charlie Kirk, because it's like he 854 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 3: was a real human being. There were other human beings involved. 855 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 3: There's a personal tragedy, a political project, also people working 856 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 3: over at TPUSA, and then there's also the element of 857 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 3: just you have a lot of trust with other people, 858 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 3: so put Brigeet Macron and all this other shit aside, 859 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 3: like to just flip back and forth on whether they 860 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 3: were involved or pulling the trigger or any of that. 861 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,320 Speaker 3: We've just come a long way past cash Betel screwed 862 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 3: something up, And how many times we talked here about 863 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 3: the cash that grew up, about cash blocking Joe Kent 864 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 3: looking into foreign you know, into a foreign connection to 865 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 3: the assassination. 866 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: I have no problem talking about that. 867 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 3: It's when we start to get into the realm of transponders, 868 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 3: Egyptian planes, French Foreign Legion all that. You're like, I'm sorry, 869 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,760 Speaker 3: like this is just I mean, look, it doesn't check out, period, 870 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 3: It really just does not check out. Like even the 871 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 3: Egyptian claim again, unfortunately for me, actually went and checked 872 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 3: what we're talking about here. I'm like, this is so 873 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 3: spurious and so like, this is so spurious to even 874 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 3: just be one hundred percent sure that it's Egyptian, but 875 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 3: then to draw that even further to Israel and all that. 876 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 3: We cannot do that with any real level of responsibility. 877 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 3: And it's only you know, we all have trust and 878 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,439 Speaker 3: the background to be able to go and actually check 879 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 3: those things and to make sure that we can textualize 880 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 3: the facts without just throwing stuff out there. 881 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 1: The tip line, for. 882 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 3: Example, how do you know how many unreported tips that 883 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 3: I have, a lot of them are true or they 884 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 3: end up true. As I just told all of you 885 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 3: that I have, I don't with them because you can't 886 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 3: do it without any sort of background. It's irresponsible to 887 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 3: the craft and also to trust. And I've seen not 888 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 3: just her do that, but a lot of other people 889 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 3: do it. And unfortunately, you know, now it's this titillating 890 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,919 Speaker 3: true crime murder mystery, right, which has gone so far 891 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 3: beyond what just happened. 892 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: To Charlie Kirk. 893 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 2: I mean it's a it's on steroids, like to make 894 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 2: it bipartisan here, Yeah, I mean liberals really got excited 895 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 2: about Russia Gate and it became like a true crime 896 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 2: thing for them, right, and every night they tune into 897 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 2: Rachel Matta, what's the next shoe that's going to drop? 898 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 2: Who's the next play character in this you know, grand 899 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 2: scheme and mystery and you know, like with this murder 900 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,720 Speaker 2: of Charlie Kirk, there were there were kernels of truth. 901 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 2: There was Trump campaign and Russia connection, like that was 902 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 2: the real thing. And what Candice has to work with is, yes, 903 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 2: the FBI did screw this up. 904 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 4: Yes there are parts of this that continued to be weird. 905 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: Right. 906 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 2: I don't think it's crazy for people to listen to 907 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 2: the doctor saying like, oh, we had a neck of 908 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 2: steel and that's so, and be like, what are you 909 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 2: talking about? That sounds ridiculous? That's fine, right, But yes, 910 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 2: she and I don't even want to focus just on her. 911 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 2: We live in this like post truth environment and so 912 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 2: much from the President of the United States who just 913 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 2: says whatever the hell he feels like saying bearing no 914 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 2: relationship to reality to Elon Musk buying Twitter, and you 915 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 2: know the way he has his own like he also 916 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 2: is like Trump in just complete reality distortion, and that's 917 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 2: part of what he does. Now we've got all of 918 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 2: this AI slop in the mix where it's increasingly different, 919 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 2: difficult to tell fact from fiction. And you've also had 920 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 2: a sort of like conspiracy realignment into the right, like 921 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 2: that was part of actually RFK Junior coming into the 922 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 2: right helped to bring like the people used to be 923 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 2: like hippie vaccine anti vaxers into the right as well. 924 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 2: And so you've had this shift in coalitions where you 925 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 2: have a disproportionate number of people are really open to 926 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 2: this stuff, and you've had stop the steal to prime 927 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 2: of this yan all kinds of crazy COVID conspiracies that 928 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 2: prime for this as well. And so this is kind 929 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 2: of the logical endpoint, which is why you know, when 930 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 2: I see Timpoole and these other people like getting so 931 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,399 Speaker 2: exercised about I'm like, you. 932 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 4: Know, like you've you've done this shit too. 933 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 2: You may not have gone quite as wild with the 934 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 2: Egyptian planes and Brigitte Macron. 935 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 4: Has a dick or whatever. 936 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 2: But you were happy to play in these waters when 937 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 2: it was good for you and when it was serving you. 938 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 2: And now she's taken it that next level and you're 939 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 2: pissed that she's sort of winning in this like conspiracy off. 940 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 2: But even for her, there's a limit. So let me 941 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 2: I'll skip ahead to the basically the Peers Morgan thing 942 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 2: is like they get into the Brigitet Macron Penis thing 943 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 2: if you're interested in that. She does make one point 944 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 2: that Soccer kind of referenced about, like, hey, Pierce, you're 945 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 2: gonna cut you. You know now that it's safe for 946 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,919 Speaker 2: you to say things are bad in Gaza, You're able 947 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 2: to say it, and you know I was saying this 948 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 2: from the beginning. I would add that Candace herself was 949 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 2: extremely pro Israel until sickly October seventh, so she also 950 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 2: is kind of a newcomer to really seeing, you know, 951 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 2: the truth of Israel and what they've been up to. 952 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 2: But in any case, I think she is correct in 953 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 2: that that that did help gain her a lot of 954 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 2: trust and gained a lot of people a lot of 955 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 2: trust who were you know, who were there and have 956 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 2: been sounding the alarm about what is actually going on 957 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 2: in Gaza. But any case back to her right after 958 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,280 Speaker 2: this Erica Kirk meeting and the brisk and dangers even 959 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 2: for her is after this meeting, she goes and does 960 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 2: her show and she promises like, Oh, I'm going to 961 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 2: tell you guys everything that happened, and I'm going to 962 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 2: you know, I'm going to expose like what this meeting 963 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 2: was all about. And first of all, she gives very 964 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 2: little detail about what actually happened in the meaning. Second 965 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 2: of all, she really seems to kind of back off 966 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 2: some of her harder line positions visa TPUSA in particular, 967 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 2: let's go and play F four. This was right towards 968 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 2: the top of her show, just after the Erica Kirk meeting. 969 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 9: You guys were telling me not to drink water, so 970 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 9: I didn't drink water while I brought my own water, 971 00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 9: but I didn't drink that water too. 972 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: It was a lot. There's a lot going on, okay. 973 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 9: And the conversation started with Justine Strife very sensibly saying 974 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 9: what are we looking to accomplish here? Like what is 975 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:17,240 Speaker 9: the actual aim of this conversation? And he was pretty clear, 976 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 9: and Eric was very clear that they were sort of 977 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 9: most upset with what I obviously a bit of a 978 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 9: fever pitch. What I tweeted that it was a god 979 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 9: forsaking company and people should not give money to it. 980 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 9: And I have to own that that's aggressive, that is 981 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,320 Speaker 9: actually aggressive. In the retrospect, I was very frustrated, and 982 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 9: I don't know, I just I felt like weren't getting 983 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 9: any answers and there were so many lies, and then 984 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 9: I was getting attacked for asking all meaningful questions that 985 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 9: it was within their capacity to answer. And I've told 986 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 9: you I definitely my problem in life is that I 987 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 9: can rise to anger very quickly. 988 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 2: After this, you can hear, Okay, that was too far, 989 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 2: et cetera. And then you know, I watched most of 990 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 2: the rest of her show, and she doesn't really get 991 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 2: into much more about what was actually said in this meeting, 992 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,280 Speaker 2: et cetera. So Yashar Ali, who's been watching the Candas 993 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 2: show and really been tracking the growth of it and 994 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 2: what it has meant, etc. He did analysis of the 995 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 2: comments on this stream and we can put some of 996 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 2: them up on the screen here, and he said they 997 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 2: were overwhelmingly negative. Tens of thousands of comments he said, 998 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 2: seventy four percent of them were negative. The dominant emotional 999 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 2: currents of the comments were betrayal and dissillusion and suspicion, 1000 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 2: paranoid conspiracy thinking, anger and hostility, confusion, and cognitive cognitive dissonance. 1001 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 2: He says, here's some of the comments. I think this 1002 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 2: private meeting is going to cost Candace a lot. The 1003 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 2: best part of this episode of the comments as they 1004 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 2: validate my deflation. If they are still gathering evidence three 1005 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 2: months later, why did they destroy the crime scene within 1006 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 2: days of the incident, which is expressing skepticism about some 1007 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 2: of what Candace said. Game over, Erica got what she wanted, 1008 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 2: all the hard work and credibility to get truth and 1009 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 2: justice for Charlie got shot, pun in ten and it's 1010 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 2: sad day, very sad day. 1011 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 4: Disappointed. 1012 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 2: Wish Candace didn't take Erica's bait by doing this, and 1013 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 2: so listen. I do actually think the Peers Borgan debate 1014 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 2: may have helped to bring some of her audience back, 1015 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 2: because then she gets to be in the position of 1016 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,800 Speaker 2: the supposed brave truth truthteller against the you know, stick 1017 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 2: in the mud journalist. I mean, Pierce himself is like 1018 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,360 Speaker 2: a tabloid sensatials, but whatever. 1019 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 4: Without a side of the moment. 1020 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 2: I do think that kind of like helped her maybe 1021 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,879 Speaker 2: bring her audience back along. But you know, if they 1022 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 2: start to waiver on, Oh, Candace has been compromised, Candace 1023 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,359 Speaker 2: got the call, Candace is no longer telling us the truth. 1024 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 2: Guess what, someone else is gonna pop on and kill 1025 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,879 Speaker 2: that boy because there's an audience to be They're all there. 1026 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, my YouTube algorithm keeps pushing me to this type 1027 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 3: of shit. There's an entire ecosystem of orbiters who are 1028 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 3: just grifting off of this. And you know, I mean, look, 1029 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not for censorship and all that. It's 1030 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,800 Speaker 3: fine for all of this to exist. I just think 1031 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 3: at the Candace level up, cause it's about if we 1032 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 3: compare the trust and people like her who have been 1033 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 3: doing this now for years, and you gain this real 1034 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 3: connection with your audience, like when you disabuse that or 1035 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 3: in your this case, what you're like admitting that you 1036 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,439 Speaker 3: were mad or something and that's why you went kind 1037 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 3: of far. I'm sorry, Like you have a responsibilit I've 1038 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 3: been mad plenty of times. It doesn't mean you violate 1039 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 3: or try not to violate your own personal ethics. So 1040 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 3: this is a kind of an independent media problem. Also, 1041 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 3: you were talking about, you know, the RFK and all that. Yeah, 1042 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,959 Speaker 3: for bringing conspiracy, Think again, I actually don't think it's RFK. 1043 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 1: I think it was all stop the steal. 1044 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 3: I think stop the steal unleashed a love because think 1045 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 3: about it, at that time, what happened would stop the 1046 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 3: steal was Trump would not hear it from anybody else 1047 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 3: except for people who would just tell him whatever he 1048 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 3: wanted to hear. Sidney Powell knows that ultimately is what 1049 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 3: truly engendered trust between Donald Trump and some of the 1050 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 3: people around him. You had to be willing to say 1051 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,240 Speaker 3: this election was stolen. 1052 00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1053 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 3: It also position to the base where many Republican Fox 1054 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 3: News commentators and others who knew that this was not 1055 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 3: true either had to endorse it, wink at it, or whatever. 1056 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 3: That just allowed this space to open where of course 1057 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 3: anybody is just going to take it as far as 1058 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 3: humanly possible. You could try and wink at it, like 1059 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 3: Josh Holly or any others, but like at the end 1060 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 3: of the day, they had to say the election was 1061 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 3: stolen by Venezuelan dominions. That was like original sin, kind 1062 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 3: of ground zero that opened up this entire kind of 1063 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,839 Speaker 3: space and ultimately led people to just bring That's what 1064 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 3: led people to live truly in a so called post 1065 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 3: truth environment. Now, to your point, it's not like that 1066 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 3: is a bipartisan phenomenon. Also in its own right, when 1067 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 3: we think about Russia Gate and other things like, both 1068 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 3: have their own types of conspiracies. I also think that 1069 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 3: there's a big class element where at the end of 1070 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 3: the day, Russiagate, which was definitely equally bullshit, was kind 1071 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 3: of an elite version of what that looks like. Whereas 1072 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 3: now when you're dealing with lower class and lower it 1073 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 3: people who are shifting into the Republican coalition, especially as 1074 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 3: things move around in terms of like who votes in 1075 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 3: which direction, it's going to look a lot more like this. This. 1076 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 3: It won't be all as dressed up and you know, 1077 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 3: liberal elite conspiracies have uh they have academics involved, and 1078 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 3: everything is trust up and it's made to be more respectable. 1079 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 3: Lower IQ movements are going to look a lot more 1080 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 3: like this. And so this is a consequence of some 1081 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 3: of the shifting class dynamics that are here. So in 1082 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 3: Richard Hannania's you know, low human capital theory. I think 1083 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,759 Speaker 3: he's totally vindicated. I think this is actually what it 1084 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 3: looks like. 1085 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's a lot of like liberal 1086 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 2: moms who watch Canvas too, though well, I mean I 1087 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 2: think she really I don't know that this is just 1088 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,359 Speaker 2: like a right wingers watching phenomenon, you know. And again, 1089 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,800 Speaker 2: Yasher's been the one who's tracking this like it's pretty 1090 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 2: it's pretty mainstream, because it's fun, because it's entertaining. 1091 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 1: I think there's a. 1092 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 4: Because she's entertaining. 1093 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 2: But you know, what you see is, like you said, 1094 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 2: you'll have people who will wink at it, and they're 1095 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 2: going to get an outflanked by the people who will 1096 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 2: actually say it. And then the minute that they don't 1097 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,479 Speaker 2: say the thing the audience wants, then there'll be someone 1098 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 2: else who will come in and who will say and 1099 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,399 Speaker 2: then or the other thing that happens is like you 1100 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 2: ride that conspiracy as far as it goes, and then 1101 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 2: people get bored and they move on to whatever the 1102 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 2: next thing is, and you're kind of left to the side. 1103 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 2: Now with Canvas, I think Cannas is very talented, right, 1104 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 2: and you know, she's been able to you know, she 1105 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 2: had her whole Brigitte Macarln thing she's done. You know, 1106 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 2: this isn't her first her first moment in the sun, 1107 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 2: but this is the height of her popularity and her 1108 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 2: celebrity in terms of American culture. And you know, I 1109 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know if it's if this is 1110 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 2: the peak, but I think it's becoming increasingly difficult to 1111 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 2: sustain as the conspiracies get more ridiculous, more elaborate, more 1112 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 2: countries and players involved, and now you're having to deal 1113 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 2: with the reality of like whatever actually happened in that 1114 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 2: meeting with Eric Kirk, whether they had lawyers there and 1115 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 2: were like, hey, listen, here's the facts. 1116 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:04,920 Speaker 4: And if you keep saying this ship, then we're going 1117 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 4: to have a problem. 1118 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 1: Definitely cold see that too. 1119 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 2: I mean, and maybe she doesn't have an issue with that. 1120 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 2: Maybe she would like the policy of getting bothered her 1121 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,399 Speaker 2: that you know, the Macrons are suing her over her 1122 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 2: like whole Brigitte Macron transvestigation things. 1123 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 3: I mean, we'll see though, because like no matter no 1124 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 3: matter how much money you have, like at the end 1125 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 3: of the day, the court system will catch up with you. 1126 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 3: So we'll see all right, thank you guys so much 1127 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 3: for watching. It was fun to end. I think on 1128 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,720 Speaker 3: that note, Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, happy Honikkah, et cetera 1129 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 3: to everybody who is out there. We're going to miss 1130 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 3: you all, and thank you for the greatest gift of all, 1131 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 3: which is the ability to do this job, which is 1132 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,319 Speaker 3: for me all of you, so thank you, Thank you 1133 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,399 Speaker 3: all very much, and we'll see you all very soon. 1134 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:00,319 Speaker 9: Yeah,