WEBVTT - Whine About It: The 5 Ls 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.400 Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:09.360 This week's Whine About It Thursday Therapy. We've got doctor 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:12.440 Gladys McGary. So she's one hundred and two years old 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.480 and she has a book out called The Well Lived Life, 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:17.959 A one hundred two year old Doctor's Six Secrets to 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:21.840 Health and Happiness at Every Age. It's available now, Let's 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:22.279 get her on. 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:23.440 Hello. 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:27.680 Hi, you can hear me, I can hear you, and 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:29.200 I can see how beautiful you are. 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:33.000 Oh Hi, nice, you're pretty too. 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:39.240 Oh thank you. I'm feeling, you know, like a million 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.839 bucks today. I'm pregnant and I'm just like everything kind 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:46.839 of hurts today, but I feel like I can't complain. 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:49.879 I'm really excited to talk to you, though, because I 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.640 just when I was reading The Rundown, it says it 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:56.160 says her book The Well Lived Life one hundred and 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.640 two year old Doctor Six Secrets to Health and Happiness 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.920 at Every Age. It's available now, and I was just was, 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.120 you know, reading the Rundown everything that you've done, and 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:09.920 I'm just it's just I think it's just so beautiful 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:12.720 and the fact that you are still you know, you're 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:16.720 you're writing books and just still living such a full 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:22.320 life is such a beautiful thing. And I'm curious do 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:26.399 you ever get how do I say this when people 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:30.160 are like, oh, you look amazing, because it's like, yes, 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.960 you're one hundred and you're one hundred and two. No 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.040 do you get like, of course, I look, I've taken 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:38.680 great care of myself or do you kind of get 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:41.120 like why are you at? Like you know, because people 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.000 always like you're forty years old and I'm like, well, 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:45.240 am I supposed to look older than forty? 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:47.160 You know? Yeah? 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:49.040 So it's like it makes you feel old when people 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:51.600 A'm like, oh my god, you're forty and I'm like, well, yeah, 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:54.960 they're like I thought you were you know, late or thirties, 0:01:54.960 --> 0:02:01.320 and I'm like, no, I'm almost forty. But okay, but 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.640 do you how is that for you? Are you like, 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:05.080 do you like that when people say that? 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.320 Or yeah, people say it all the time. It didn't 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.160 make much sense to me. You look like what you 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:14.280 look like? You know, what are you going to do 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.320 about it? And you can get a facelift, but that 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:18.200 doesn't help. 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:22.240 Any temporary right well. 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:25.480 It just it doesn't say anything about who you are. 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:30.000 I have a friend who is a speaker. She speaks 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:33.720 all around every place. And she told me one time 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:40.399 that she was in a a doing a talk in Hollywood, 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:46.320 and when she had people ask questions, she didn't know 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:50.200 who was asking the question, even if she could see 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.800 their faces, because they all looked alike. They'd had so 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:57.720 much in the way of facial surgery and so on 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:03.640 to look like what they should look like. And you know, 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:08.560 instead of claiming what it is that you actually look 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.080 like when you're this age, I mean, what are you 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:16.520 going to do about it? When I was seventy having 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:20.720 my seventieth birthday, by grandson was on the seat beside 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:22.640 me and he says, how old are you, nanny? And 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.120 I said, I'm seventy and he says, how old is 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:30.679 that old? And I said, oh, I don't know, it's 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:36.480 it's older. And he started pushing my face and he says, well, 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:41.880 what about these ruggles? And I said, don't worry about them. 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.600 They don't worry young. They don't hurt on the inside. 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.920 They look funny on the outside, but they don't hurt 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:51.680 on the inside. They're all right. I mean, it's that 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:56.760 kind of accepting who and what you are and making 0:03:56.880 --> 0:04:00.160 it do. I mean, we're not going to do a bit. 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:03.760 Right. 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:05.680 I mean, yeah, I mean that's a that's a good 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.360 perspective on that too. And you know, is there something 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.960 I mean, people obviously are probably like, you know, what's 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:12.680 your secret? 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:13.800 What you know? 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.000 And is that why you're like, Okay, I'm writing this 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:17.919 book because here are my secrets? 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.640 Yes, you know, here am I secret? Here? 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:25.440 I'm trying to tell you when I've written the book, 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:30.360 is that this is I don't consider it good or 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:34.120 bad that a person wants to look different from the 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.800 way they are. I mean, that's all right, that's your choice, 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:44.080 but for me that unnecessary. You know, it's just a 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:48.400 waste of time to try and pretend that you look 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.880 different from what you feel like you look like. 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.279 For sure. And I think it's hard too because in 0:04:56.320 --> 0:05:00.960 this era of social media, you you know, having the 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:03.760 ability to change how your face looks with the tap 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:08.159 of a little filter switch has been I think the 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:11.440 most dangerous thing because you know, I've spoken on this 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.720 like I've stopped using the certain filter that I used 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:16.960 to use because I'm like, that's actually not what my 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.640 nose looks like or what my face looks like. So 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:23.279 I need to stop that because it's mentally not great. 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.440 Nor would I want my daughter to swipe on something 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.719 that isn't what she looks like, because she's beautiful in 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:36.400 my eyes, and I wouldn't want that or to promote that. Now. Sometimes, 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.359 you know, it's nice to be able to go, Okay, 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.200 here's a little I don't know if you're on Instagram, 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.400 but like this softens it a little bit and makes 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.680 it look a little better. But so I for you, 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.200 do you think it was maybe easier without the social 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.120 media aspect growing up or having that comparison of things, 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:56.600 or was that comparison of other people there just not 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:58.080 on the public platform. 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.680 I think it's what every person wants to do with that. 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:09.560 I mean, I'll never look like Marilyn Mineral, I'll never 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:13.479 look like Elizabeth Taylor. I don't need to look like them. 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:17.600 I look like me, and they don't need to look 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:21.600 like me. And so I'm me and you're you, and 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:25.880 it's wonderful. And life goes on and you're going to 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:32.600 continue to age properly adequately, and that's that's just fine, 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:37.000 you know. And you know, in the process of aging, 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:43.080 my eyes have you know, they well, I can't see 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:48.600 well enough to read, so I'm listening to audio books 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:52.080 and getting a lot of really good stuff out of 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:59.480 audio books. But it's it's my eyesight has diminished. It 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:05.040 hasn't bothered my insight. In fact, my inside is better 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:09.040 now when my eyesight is not so good that it 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.760 was when my eyesight was good and I didn't have 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:13.640 to pay attention to my inside. 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:17.400 Why do you think that is well? 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.240 Because I was busy doing what my eyesight could tell me. 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.679 You know what I was looking for. I was looking 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.400 for whatever it was. I was looking forward that I needed, 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:31.320 which I'm not complaining about that now. Because I don't 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:36.520 have my eyesight as good as it was, I can 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:42.200 actually appreciate the fact that there are things I can 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:49.640 understand that I didn't understand before because I'm not seeing 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:54.480 the things that I could see before. It's a sort 0:07:54.520 --> 0:08:00.640 of a juxtaposition of things that are going on life, 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.360 and it's good whichever it is. 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.480 Yeah, through your life, is there one thing that you 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.320 can look back and go I took that for granted. 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:18.440 Oh my, I just the fact that I breathe every day, 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.559 the fact you know that I get up and walk, 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.280 the fact that I used to be able to run 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.720 up my steps, and now I have to just make 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:31.120 myself walk up my steps. There are lots of things, 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:35.800 but that doesn't make them worse or better. I'm grateful 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:43.760 that I can get up my steps. 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:54.240 For your book, writing it, did you then have did 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:55.960 you just voice the things you wanted to say and 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:57.959 then you had someone just kind of write it out 0:08:57.960 --> 0:08:59.400 for you or how did that process work? 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:04.080 I worked with people, you know, we talked about things 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:11.440 and disgust and because like I remember one day spending 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:18.520 two hours trying to express in words what love is, 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:24.280 and we tried one in try another, and after two 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:29.600 hours of working with that, we finally realized that, you know, 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:33.640 there are no words that can explain to a person 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:38.120 what love is, because all the songs in the world, 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:42.720 all the paintings in the world, all the stories in 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:48.880 the world about love don't really allow a person to 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:53.760 experience love. Just like if a person is born blind 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:56.680 and you try to explain to them what the color 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:01.240 green is, if you have never experience instant, you don't 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:05.760 know what it is. So it's that that ability to 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:10.720 have things happen and you experience them and you feel them, 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:14.680 and you allow it to come into yourself and you 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.000 know that that then is a part of you. 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:23.200 That's beautiful. I love that one of your secrets that 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:27.600 you put in was all life needs to move when 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:31.840 obviously listeners are going to force them, not importantly, they 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:36.000 all need this book. So I'm gonna highly encourage What 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:38.840 do you mean though, by all life needs to move? 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:45.240 Exactly that? Because if life doesn't move, if it gets 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:49.800 stuck any place, it dies. If you have rosebud, a 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:54.160 rose climbing rose, and it gets stuck someplace up the 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:59.080 trellis and it can't go any farther, it dies. Life 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:04.040 has to move. We have to take our breath, each 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:08.760 breath at a time and move in order for life 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:13.559 to continue. If we didn't, if our blood didn't continue 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:17.680 to circulate, if our heart didn't continue pump, if things 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:24.400 didn't tote to continue to move on, we would die, right, 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:29.439 Just life has to move. Life and movement are part 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.320 of what life is. 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.559 And then you know, being to on the more holistic 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:49.800 side of medicine, has it been hard for you to 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:54.040 kind of watch the new wave of things that have 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.360 of medicine today's age, or like, what is your kind 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.480 of take on that and and a second part of 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.560 that is, you know, what is something to be mindful? 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:10.040 Like I I want to live the fullest, longest, you 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:13.439 know life that I can and I want to instill 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.680 that into my children too, with you know, health, eating 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:21.280 and balancing, you know, in therapy and you know working 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.720 out and you know, but is there something that people 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:29.160 are missing in that that can additionally add to you know, 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:34.040 is it something holistically or is it you know, not 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.800 having that glass of wine even though it's sometimes really nice? Uh, 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:39.840 Because you know, I've talked to a doctor amen on 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:41.840 here and he is just like, alcohol is the worse 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:45.320 for you? And and I'm like, God, I'm hearing this, 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:46.679 and I want to live a long life and I 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:48.959 want to have great brain health, but I really also 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.720 enjoy the glass of wine sometimes at the end of 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.000 the night. And I'm just like, what's the balance. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:59.680 I can't tell anybody what it is because it has 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:03.680 to be personal thing. What works for me doesn't work 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.760 for the next person. I have a son who can't 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.520 eat garlic and onions, and the rest of us eat 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.040 garlic and onions all the time for crying out loud. 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:17.480 I was growing up in India Garlic onions Center. I 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:24.680 can't understand this kid who is now a grown person, 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:28.479 retired and all of that, but he can eat guardians 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:33.280 and onions, and if I tried to teach him that 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.760 he had to eat garlic and onions. It's like my 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.200 other son who when he was well, I don't know 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:45.080 about five, told me that eggs gave him us a 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:50.959 headache in his stomach. You know, well, I didn't make 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:54.400 him eat eggs. He now eats eggs, but at that point, 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:59.760 eggs get a headache in his stomach. It's that ability 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:05.680 of us to understand ourselves and learn to love ourselves. 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.720 There's always one person you can always love, and that's you, 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:15.520 because that person doesn't get away from you. And it's 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:21.000 it's only not only, it's as we begin to find 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:26.280 the the parts of ourselves that we can begin to 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:30.560 understand and really think, yeah, that's that's good. 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:31.440 That's good. 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:37.480 I like that, and then incorporate that aspect of ourselves 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:43.440 into something that makes us sing, makes us. I have 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:47.520 my five l's. I've told you, have I spoken about this? 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:49.320 No you haven't. I'd love to hear them that. 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:56.640 The first one is life, life without love can't go 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:00.960 any place. It dies, it doesn't even exist. You can 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:05.840 have a shell, a seed in the pyramid, and it 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.280 has a shell around it has all the life of 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:14.040 the universe within it, but it can't do anything until love, 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:19.120 in the form of water and sunlight and that kind 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:26.040 of thing activates. It breaks the shell, so the life 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:32.160 can then begin to move. Then life comes back. But 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:39.080 you see, life without love is nothing, It's just stuck. 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.600 And so in order for life and love to move, 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.160 it's like the sperm and the ovum. The ovum and 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:50.600 the sperm need to connect in order for a person 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:55.920 to become a person. It's the reality of that. The 0:15:56.200 --> 0:16:02.280 energy is those two energies which the words life and 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:08.440 love are the same except for the letter I n oh, 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:13.160 because the eye is the masculine, the oh is the feminine. 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:21.120 It's the moving together of those energies that lets us live, 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:28.160 and we live if we love, so that the words 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:35.720 themselves can't be real until they actually, you know, become 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:40.720 the one unit, which is life and love. Anyway, so 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:44.000 that you start there these five bells, life and love, 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:47.680 and you have the one that is the two third 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:52.800 one is laughter. Laughter without love is mean it's cruel. 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:59.440 It's it. It hurts, it can be very painful. Wars 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:05.040 are fought be you know. So laughter without love is cruel, 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:11.040 But laughter with love is joy and happiness. It's the 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:15.400 same thing, but it's how it's used. It's how how 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:19.720 we take it in and how we are able to 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.520 let it grow and become part of who we are. 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:31.560 The fourth l is labor. Labor without love is drudgery. 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.760 You know, I gotta go to work. There are too 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:38.880 many diapers. This is too hard. I don't like this. 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:39.880 This is my job. 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:40.159 You know. 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:45.000 That kind of adjust a drudgery. It's just too hard. 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:52.280 But labor with love is bliss. 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.160 It's why you do what you're doing. 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.439 It's why a paiger does what they paid, a cigare 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.600 does why they say, you know, it's a very essence 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:08.960 of our being is labor with love. And then the 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:14.240 fifth one is listening. Listening without love is empty sound. 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:19.000 It's the calling glaion, an empty sound. It's just it 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:24.200 doesn't go any place. It's just there. But with love 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:30.520 is understanding. It allows as you begin to listen to 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:34.719 what people are saying, and you're beginning to listen to 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:38.520 what you're saying not just to the world, but to 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:45.160 yourself that begins and begin to understand it, then you've 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:50.480 got a really, really something, really important going on within 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:51.800 you for sure. 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:56.920 Yeah, that listening piece is that's been something that I've 0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:01.159 had to learn and practice because I think I know 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:03.159 other Yeah, I know I'm not alone in this, but 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:08.480 I go quick to defend right instead of and through 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:12.600 the years of therapy and past couples counseling, it's like, Okay, 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.360 really listen, you know, because you might not understand it, 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.760 you might not agree with it, but you still should listen, 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:22.560 and that's gonna then grow. And but that's that's that's 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:23.120 a hard one. 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:25.679 Sometimes it is a hard one. But one of the 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:30.320 privileges of having children is being able to listen to 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:35.560 what your children are saying. Why my third son, when 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:41.120 he was four years old, came in one day and uh, 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:44.399 he says, Mom, I know something, And I said, what's that? 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:47.480 Bobby? He says, if I make a friend and he 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:49.879 makes a friend, and he makes a friend, it's going 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:53.399 to go all around the world to come back to me. So, 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:56.439 of course he's a psychologist, you know. 0:19:56.760 --> 0:20:00.679 This is where was basically telling me that he was 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:04.280 going to be working with people and tried to understand 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:08.040 them and you know that whole process. And then my 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:15.199 second son, when he was seven, comes in and he says, well, 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:22.359 he says, I wish Jesus was here. And I said, oh, okay. 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:23.199 Well so do I. But why do you? 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:28.760 He says, because I've got questions? And I said, well 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:32.040 try me. He said, but you don't have the answers. 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:36.280 And I said, but just try me. See what. So 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:40.640 he says, okay, how can God be if he never 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:48.280 got started? And I said, well, you know, I took 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:52.359 a deep breath and I said, well, maybe it's like 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:54.720 a circle. It doesn't have a beginning, gir and and 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:57.480 he says, oh, I knew you didn't have the answers 0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:01.000 at all, because so of course he's a retired president 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.679 and minister. I mean, you know when you listen to 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:09.600 what people say and you took that away and think, 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.400 well this is interesting, you know, this is really interesting, 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:17.320 and then watch them grow into that it's it's just 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:21.120 absolutely it's awesome. 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:24.760 I love that so much. And I cannot wait to 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:28.840 read your book because you obviously have so much life 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:32.000 experience and everything that you know you're I want to 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:35.159 know the six Secrets to health and happiness, and so 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:38.320 everybody grab her book, The Well Lived Life one hundred 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:40.840 and two year old doctors Six Secrets to Health and 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:43.919 Happiness at every age. It's available now. Thank you so 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:45.160 much for coming on the show. 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:46.920 You're certainly welcome. 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:49.080 Thank you, you're a sweetheart. Thank you so much.