WEBVTT - One To Rule Them All

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<v Speaker 1>Yah Welcome to the Hidden Gin, A production of I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio and Grim and Mild from Aaron Mankey. Long

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<v Speaker 1>before man inhabited the earth, it was the exclusive domain

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<v Speaker 1>of the Gin. They lived in societies and communities, had hierarchies,

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<v Speaker 1>kingdoms with kings and queens, tribes with chiefs and ministers,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course ordinary Gin citizenst century Persian polymath Zakaria

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<v Speaker 1>al Kaswini wrote about that time in his Marvelous Home.

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<v Speaker 1>When Cosmology called the Wonders of Creation, it is related

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<v Speaker 1>in that his Trees that a race of Gin in

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<v Speaker 1>ancient times, before the creation of Adam, inhabited the earth

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<v Speaker 1>and covered it the land and the sea, and the

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<v Speaker 1>plains and the mountains, and the favors of God were

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<v Speaker 1>multiplied upon them, and they had government and prophecy, and

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<v Speaker 1>religion and law. But they transgressed and offended, and opposed

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<v Speaker 1>their profits and wickedness to abound in the earth. Whereupon God,

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<v Speaker 1>whose name be exalted, sent against them an army of angels,

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<v Speaker 1>who took possession of the earth and drove away the

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<v Speaker 1>jinns to the regions of the islands, and made many

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<v Speaker 1>of them prisoners. And of those prisoners was as a

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<v Speaker 1>zeal and a slaughter was made among them at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>As a Zeala was young. He grew up among the

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<v Speaker 1>angels and became learned in their knowledge and assumed the

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<v Speaker 1>government of them, and his days were prolonged until he

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<v Speaker 1>became their chief. And thus it continued for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>This Jin as a zeal not only raised his ranks

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<v Speaker 1>above the gin, ruling over them for a thousand years,

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<v Speaker 1>but he also raised his ranks above the angels themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>It said that he had more knowledge of both the

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<v Speaker 1>seen and unseen realms, was more pious and righteous than

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<v Speaker 1>the angels, and even rose into heaven with them. So

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<v Speaker 1>intense was his devotion to God. There wasn't a place

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<v Speaker 1>on heaven or earth that he had prostrated himself in worship,

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<v Speaker 1>such was his love for the Almighty. But one day

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<v Speaker 1>it all came crashing down. He lost everything, and he

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<v Speaker 1>went from being Azazel, a jin among angels, praised in

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<v Speaker 1>the heavens and earth, to how we know him today,

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<v Speaker 1>despised and feared, condemned to the depths of hell. We

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<v Speaker 1>know him by many names, dozens, Ablis, Mastama, Belzebub, Abadon, Diabolos, Bafa,

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<v Speaker 1>met shadon Sama eel Satan himself, the accuser, the hated,

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<v Speaker 1>the adversary, the great deceiver. That's right, the one that

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<v Speaker 1>rules over the most evil jin the demons, is none

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<v Speaker 1>other than Satan, and all of his deception and treachery

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<v Speaker 1>is reserved for us, mere mortals. My name is Rob

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll be your guide into the world of the

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<v Speaker 1>hidden gin. Welcome. Yeah. Yeah. Every tradition that entertains the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of Satan has for centuries and longer debated whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not Satan is an actual entity. Even in those

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<v Speaker 1>traditions that believe very much in God and angels and prophets,

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<v Speaker 1>there are groups that way how my suh of scripture

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<v Speaker 1>is literal and how much is figurative. For many Sufis,

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<v Speaker 1>those mystics of the Islamic world, Satan personifies evil, but

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<v Speaker 1>may not actually exist as an evil being. Roumi, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the very few Sufi saints and poets known in

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<v Speaker 1>the Western world, viewed Satan as a manifestation of the

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<v Speaker 1>sins of arrogance and envy. To him, Satan, the one

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<v Speaker 1>I devil, represented a half blind intellect that could see

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<v Speaker 1>no further than the surface, unable to see the essence

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<v Speaker 1>within others. Others connected the characteristics of Satan to the

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<v Speaker 1>mechanics of the human psyche, with the angels representing the

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<v Speaker 1>light in us and Satan representing the darkness. But then

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<v Speaker 1>there is no dearth of literature and text, and sincere

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<v Speaker 1>belief that Satan is much more than just an idea

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<v Speaker 1>or a representation of our inner condition, too many. Satan

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<v Speaker 1>was and is very much in existence, just as we are.

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<v Speaker 1>He was born, he lives, and he will die. Satan

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<v Speaker 1>appears in all three of the Abrahamic religions Judaism, Christianity,

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<v Speaker 1>and Islam as a fairly similar figure, someone who took

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<v Speaker 1>a position among angels brilliant and beloved, called Lucifer in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible, meaning star of the morning. He didn't stay exalted.

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<v Speaker 1>The story of Satan's fall from grace and from heaven itself,

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<v Speaker 1>why he was thrown out of favor with God, why

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<v Speaker 1>he became an eternal enemy to mankind, That part has

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<v Speaker 1>some similarities, but also some interesting differences. According to the

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish Encyclopedia, Semma, l the head of all demons, was

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<v Speaker 1>once a mighty prince of the angels in heaven. He

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<v Speaker 1>was born and will eventually die. He's a celestial being

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<v Speaker 1>that can fly through the air and can assume any

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<v Speaker 1>animal or human form. He's only mentioned by name as

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<v Speaker 1>Hassathan the Satan twice in the entire Hebrew Bible, and

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<v Speaker 1>both times in the Book of Job and the Book

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<v Speaker 1>of Zachariah. He's present as a part a divine counsel

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<v Speaker 1>of sorts a heavenly court, where his role is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a public prosecutor. Hence he's the accuser. He

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<v Speaker 1>not only levels charges against those being tried, he urges

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<v Speaker 1>God to meet out the toughest punishments. Beyond these mentions,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not much to be said in the Talmut about Satan,

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<v Speaker 1>and his role is as a figure subservient to God.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a different story altogether with the New Testament, though,

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<v Speaker 1>where Satan really comes into his own, appearing by name

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six times, having grown fully into the evil part

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<v Speaker 1>of the good versus evil dichotomy. Now we have all

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<v Speaker 1>heard of the various temptations of Christ by Satan, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's Satan's early interactions with mankind that really deserve examining,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's where we unearthed the root of his enmity.

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<v Speaker 1>Towards mankind. And in the New Testament that happens when Satan,

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<v Speaker 1>in the guise of a serpent, tempts Adam and Eve

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<v Speaker 1>to eat the forbidden fruit. But that again begs the

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<v Speaker 1>question of why why would he do that? Well? To

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<v Speaker 1>answer it, we have to backtrack just a bit between

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<v Speaker 1>the Old and the New Testament to writings that fell

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<v Speaker 1>in between, and there we find one ancient Jewish apocryphal

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<v Speaker 1>group of writings known as Apocalypse of Moses, in which

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<v Speaker 1>Satan minces no words with Adam and tells him exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what his beef is. What asks Adam of Satan? Have

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<v Speaker 1>I done to you? Oh Adam, all my enmity, jealousy,

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<v Speaker 1>and resentment is towards you, Since on account of you,

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<v Speaker 1>I was expelled and alienated from my glory which I

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<v Speaker 1>had in heaven in the midst of the angels. On

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<v Speaker 1>account of you, I was cast out upon the earth.

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<v Speaker 1>On account of you, I was cast out from heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>When you were formed, I was cast out from the

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<v Speaker 1>face of God and was sent forth from the company

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<v Speaker 1>of angels. The Lord God then said, behold, Adam, I

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<v Speaker 1>made you in our image and likeness, And the Archangel

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<v Speaker 1>Michael called all the angels, saying, worship the image of

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<v Speaker 1>the Lord God, just as the Lord God has commanded.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael himself worshiped. Then he called me and said, worship

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<v Speaker 1>the image of God Jehovah. And I answered, I do

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<v Speaker 1>not have it within me to worship Adam. I will

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<v Speaker 1>not worship him who is lower and posterior to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I am prior to that creature, before he was made.

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<v Speaker 1>I had already been made. He ought to worship me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the same story that appears nearly a millennia later,

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<v Speaker 1>but this time in the Muslim Holy Scripture the Koran.

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<v Speaker 1>Satan is called by the name Eblis in the Koran,

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<v Speaker 1>and of the eleven times he's mentioned by name, nine

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<v Speaker 1>of them are connected to this incident. When Satan refused

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<v Speaker 1>to bow down to Adam, God says in the Koran,

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<v Speaker 1>we said to the angels, prostrate to Adam. And they

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<v Speaker 1>prostrated except for Ablist. He said, should I austraight to

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<v Speaker 1>one you created from clay? Do you see this one

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<v Speaker 1>whom you have honored above me? If you delay me

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<v Speaker 1>until the day of resurrection, I will surely destroy his

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<v Speaker 1>descendants except for a few. Another story not from the Koran,

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<v Speaker 1>but from the Stages draws this saga out further. It

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<v Speaker 1>says that when God created the form of Adam out

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<v Speaker 1>of clay, but had not yet blown a soul into him,

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<v Speaker 1>a Blize was mystified. He began to observe this lifeless thing,

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<v Speaker 1>just slowly drying out, sitting propped up outside the gates

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<v Speaker 1>of the Garden of Eden, and he started to suspect

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<v Speaker 1>that it was just a hollow form. So it Belize

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<v Speaker 1>started throwing pebbles at Adam, and he heard a hollow clink.

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<v Speaker 1>What the heck? What was this creature? He had never

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<v Speaker 1>seen anything like it. He wanted to get a closer

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<v Speaker 1>look at the first human who lay there, quiet and

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<v Speaker 1>still lifeless. Yet, so it Blize entered the drawing clay form,

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<v Speaker 1>swimming through the body of this new creation, and low

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<v Speaker 1>and behold there was nothing on the inside. It was

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<v Speaker 1>completely empty. That for sure didn't impress Satan no way,

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<v Speaker 1>Nohow was the Belize going to bow down to this muddy, hollow, dumb,

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<v Speaker 1>powerless thing when he himself was powerful, made out a fire,

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<v Speaker 1>could travel through the heavens and the earth, knew everything

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<v Speaker 1>there was to know in all of the realms. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was this arrogance, this clear disobedience to God, that

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<v Speaker 1>was his downfall. But he wasn't going to go down alone.

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<v Speaker 1>If he would lose Paradise, so would Adam, and so

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<v Speaker 1>would the children of Adam now and forever. How are

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<v Speaker 1>you fallen from heaven, o, Lucifer, son of the Morning

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<v Speaker 1>How are you cut down to the ground, you who

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<v Speaker 1>weakened the nation's For you have said in your heart,

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<v Speaker 1>I will ascend into heaven. I will exalt my throne

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<v Speaker 1>above the stars of God. I will also sit on

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<v Speaker 1>the mount of the congregation, on the farthest sides of

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<v Speaker 1>the north. I will ascend above the heights of the cloud.

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<v Speaker 1>I will be like the most high. Yet you shall

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<v Speaker 1>be brought down to shield, to the lowest depths of

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<v Speaker 1>the pit. God was not having Lucifer's arrogance, as we

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<v Speaker 1>can see in this passage from Isaiah, and a new

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<v Speaker 1>chapter was about to begin for him. He would be

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<v Speaker 1>reborn from Lucifer the Morning Star to Satan the Despised.

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<v Speaker 1>In Islamic theology, he went from being ablist he who

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<v Speaker 1>has despaired, to Satan the adversary Shathon or Satan now

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<v Speaker 1>fully humiliated, was ready to leave heaven, but first he

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<v Speaker 1>had one rather important request. Satan asked God to be

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<v Speaker 1>given until the end of time to show God that, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this claymation thing you think is so great, it isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's weak, it's limited, it's stupid. It won't be good

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<v Speaker 1>and right and pure the way you want it to be.

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<v Speaker 1>It will be corrupt and greedy and jealous and violent

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<v Speaker 1>and bloodthirsty. And I will prove it to you by

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<v Speaker 1>spending the rest of my days pulling it away from

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<v Speaker 1>everything good towards everything wrong. I'll prove to you that

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<v Speaker 1>you were wrong. So Satan raises the challenge to God,

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<v Speaker 1>because thou hast thrown me out of the way low,

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<v Speaker 1>I will lie in wait for them on thy straight way.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I will assault them from before them and behind them,

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<v Speaker 1>from their right and their left. And God responded, get

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<v Speaker 1>out from here, be gone with you, disgraced and expelled.

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<v Speaker 1>If any of them follow thee, I will fill hell

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<v Speaker 1>with you all tempt with your call, all whom you wish,

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<v Speaker 1>muster against them, all your forces, your cavalry, and your

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<v Speaker 1>foot soldiers, share with them riches and offspring, and seduce

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<v Speaker 1>them with rosy promises. Satan's promise is nothing but a deception. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>God granted Staton a stay of execution if you will.

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<v Speaker 1>He gave him all the time in the world to

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<v Speaker 1>see what kind of havoc he could wreak, and ever

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<v Speaker 1>since then it's been on. Satan began his assault on

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<v Speaker 1>mankind early in the game by deceiving Adam and Eve

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<v Speaker 1>in the Garden of Eden. While the Christian tradition relates

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<v Speaker 1>that Satan entered the garden in the form of a snake,

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<v Speaker 1>the Muslim tradition differs a bit slightly. According to it,

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<v Speaker 1>Satan approached a number of animals that lived in the garden,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get any of them on board to work

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<v Speaker 1>with him, and all of them refused except for one,

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<v Speaker 1>a serpent. So he told the serpent, I'll protect you

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<v Speaker 1>from the children of Adam. If you can get me

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<v Speaker 1>into the garden, you'll be protected forever from them, and

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<v Speaker 1>so she agreed. She smuggled Satan into the garden tucked

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<v Speaker 1>between her two front fangs, and as they casually idled

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<v Speaker 1>by the original power couple, Satan heard Adam tell Eve

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<v Speaker 1>that man he wished they could live forever and not

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<v Speaker 1>have to die. That was Satan's in Now he knew

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<v Speaker 1>what Adam's weakness was, and he knew exactly what to

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<v Speaker 1>promise him in order to get both of these humans

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<v Speaker 1>to disobey God. If you remember, they basically had the

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<v Speaker 1>entire garden at the disposal except for a single tree.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it was that tree hissed Satan to Adam

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<v Speaker 1>and Eve that bore the fruit that would give them immortality.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know how that story ends. Satan succeeded, gaining

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<v Speaker 1>an early lead on mankind right out of the gate.

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<v Speaker 1>After all, if Satan couldn't have the garden, no one would.

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<v Speaker 1>Now when Satan was cast out, he had enough foresight

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<v Speaker 1>to know if he was going to wage and never

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<v Speaker 1>ending war against mankind, he needed some backup. In the

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<v Speaker 1>Book of Jubilees, another ancient Jewish text, Satan says to

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<v Speaker 1>God referring to angels, he was used to hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>with Lord Creator. Let some of them remain before me,

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<v Speaker 1>and let them park into my voice and do all

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<v Speaker 1>that I shall say into them. For some of them

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<v Speaker 1>are not left to me. I shall not be able

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<v Speaker 1>to execute the power of my will on the sons

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<v Speaker 1>of men. For these are for corruption and leading astray,

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<v Speaker 1>for great is the wickedness of the sons of men.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the Book of Revelation, Satan took one third

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<v Speaker 1>of the angels with him in his fall. He gathered

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<v Speaker 1>together those angels and armies of Gin together to become

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<v Speaker 1>his legion of demons, whose sole purpose is to do

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<v Speaker 1>his bidding. Along with their master, these jinn were also

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<v Speaker 1>given an extra lease on life. They would live until

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<v Speaker 1>Judgment Day, when everything on this earth perishes, and they

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<v Speaker 1>would only die when their leader did. Now Irish Lord, however,

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<v Speaker 1>says that not all those who were cast out of

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<v Speaker 1>heaven with Lucifer became demons. Instead, they believe some of

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<v Speaker 1>the fallen angels became fairies. The book The Vengeful Jin

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<v Speaker 1>recounts the story documented by Celtic folklorist Alexander Carmichael and

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<v Speaker 1>October of eighteen seventy one, Carmichael found himself stuck on

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<v Speaker 1>the Scottish isle of Barra, where he met a ninety

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<v Speaker 1>two year old storyteller named Roderick McNeil. McNeil was a

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<v Speaker 1>legend himself, known to never have worn shoes in his life,

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<v Speaker 1>he had never fallen ill, and he had the climbing

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<v Speaker 1>skills of a goat. Even in his advanced age, McNeil

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<v Speaker 1>regaled the stranded Carmichael with local fairy tales. But here,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, is how it all began. The proud Angel

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<v Speaker 1>fomented a rebellion among the angels of Heaven, where he

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<v Speaker 1>had been a leading light. He declared that he would

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<v Speaker 1>go out and found a kingdom of his own. When

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<v Speaker 1>going out at the door of Heaven, the proud Angel

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<v Speaker 1>brought prickly and biting lightning out the doorstep with his heels.

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<v Speaker 1>Many angels followed him, so many that at last a

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<v Speaker 1>son called out, Father, Father, the city is being emptied,

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<v Speaker 1>whereupon the Father ordered the gates of Heaven and Hell

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<v Speaker 1>to be closed. This was instantly done, and those who

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<v Speaker 1>were in were in, and those who were out were out.

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<v Speaker 1>While the hosts who had left Heaven and had not

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<v Speaker 1>reached Hell, they flew into the holes of the earth.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the fairy folk, ever since, doomed to live

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<v Speaker 1>under the ground, and only permitted to emerge when and

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<v Speaker 1>where the King of Heaven permits. The parallels between this lord,

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<v Speaker 1>Christian belief and muslutricition is pretty strong, and perhaps one

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<v Speaker 1>main point of difference is this was a belief or

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<v Speaker 1>Lucifer as he was known, an angel himself, or was

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<v Speaker 1>he a gin that elevated himself to the level of angels.

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<v Speaker 1>Christian belief is strongly in the angel camp, but Muslim

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<v Speaker 1>scholars are conflicted about it. There are strong scriptural arguments

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<v Speaker 1>to be made that he was an angel, but just

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<v Speaker 1>as strong are the arguments that he was and is

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<v Speaker 1>a gin on some level, though it doesn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 1>What matters is his role after the fall from grace

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<v Speaker 1>that Satan became master over the demons, the most evil Jin,

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<v Speaker 1>and to this day he remains oh. Some traditions say

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<v Speaker 1>after his victory over Adam and Eve he married the

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<v Speaker 1>snake that had assisted him, and they went on to

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<v Speaker 1>have many demon children, and the names of the most

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<v Speaker 1>powerful of his sons, including the seven Jin Kings, are

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<v Speaker 1>well known. There's Alower, the one eyed demon, whose wheelhouse

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<v Speaker 1>is tempting humans to lud and vulgar behavior. Then their suit,

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<v Speaker 1>the father of lies, and closely related in purpose is

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<v Speaker 1>his brother is a lumber whose domain is dishonesty and

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<v Speaker 1>corruption in business. There's Dust him, whose only purpose is

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<v Speaker 1>to ruin marriages by turning a couple against each other.

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<v Speaker 1>There's Tear, who is in charge of striking people with

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<v Speaker 1>disaster and injury. And finally there's Danish, the most powerful

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<v Speaker 1>of all of Satan's sons, who lives in every dark void,

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<v Speaker 1>attacks his victims with blindness, and even lurks inside the

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<v Speaker 1>dark wombs of women ready to cosmos carriages. Along with

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<v Speaker 1>these powerful demon sons, carrying forth his royal line as

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<v Speaker 1>the Prince of Darkness, are hundreds of thousands of less

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<v Speaker 1>significant offspring. It said that Satan laid thirty eggs after

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<v Speaker 1>being expelled from heaven, ten in the west, ten in

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<v Speaker 1>the east, and ten in the middle of the earth.

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<v Speaker 1>From every egg, a new race of demons and gin emerged,

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<v Speaker 1>like the ghouls, poisonous scorpions, terrifying nightbirds, venomous snakes, and

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<v Speaker 1>other creatures, each of them an enemy to mankind. Satan's seed,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, is spread far and wide, and while

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<v Speaker 1>he has, like other jin, the ability to move between

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<v Speaker 1>the mortal and unseen world, he primarily lords over them

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<v Speaker 1>all from his very own kingdom. It said that he

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<v Speaker 1>presides in a huge palace that sits over a body

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<v Speaker 1>of water, guarded by tens of thousands of gin where

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<v Speaker 1>he holds court and presumably where he lives with his big,

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<v Speaker 1>terrifying evil family, And that palace is exactly where you

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<v Speaker 1>think it would be in the lowest depths of Hell.

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<v Speaker 1>Theologians have argued for millennia about Hell, just like they

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<v Speaker 1>have about Heaven, especially about whether it's a literal or

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<v Speaker 1>figurative place. Maybe we're already in Hell, having been kicked

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<v Speaker 1>at of paradise. Maybe Hell is all in our minds.

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<v Speaker 1>It's our fear and terror and despair, and maybe, just

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's as real a place as the planet Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>Regardless of the majority of the major world religions entertained

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<v Speaker 1>the concept of Hell or very much believe in it

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<v Speaker 1>as an actual place, and in nearly all versions, Hell

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<v Speaker 1>is a place of fire. Fire, no doubt, strikes terror

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<v Speaker 1>in all humans, whether a punishment or a purification. Fire,

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<v Speaker 1>when we aren't able to control it, inspires fear, causes pain,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the end leaves us as nothing but ashes.

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<v Speaker 1>But also fire can be a means to an end,

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<v Speaker 1>a trial that we are willing to face, a sacrificial

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<v Speaker 1>device to get what we want. And thousands of years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>the cult of an ancient God understood that the Ammonite

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<v Speaker 1>deity Moloch meaning King, was a terrifying god worshiped by

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<v Speaker 1>the Canaanites, terrifying because the only sacrifice that appeased him

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<v Speaker 1>were children. Molok is sometimes depicted as having the body

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<v Speaker 1>of a man in the head of a bull, although

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<v Speaker 1>no such descriptions actually exist from that time, but rabbinic

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<v Speaker 1>texts do describe the deity as being made of bronze

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<v Speaker 1>and hollow, with seven compartments. Some have said that Molok

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<v Speaker 1>was a demon that humans made into a pagan god,

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<v Speaker 1>but not just any demon, one of the princes of

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<v Speaker 1>the underworld. In fact, Milton's epic poem Paradise Lost describes

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<v Speaker 1>Molok as one of the chiefs of Satan's Jin's, a

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<v Speaker 1>great demon warrior that even delivered a speech in the

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<v Speaker 1>parliament of Hell, who was then transformed into a deity

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<v Speaker 1>by mankind. The pagan priests made their offerings to Moloch,

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<v Speaker 1>and each of these compartments. In the first they put flower,

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<v Speaker 1>in the second, turtle doves, and the third, a you.

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<v Speaker 1>In the fourth, a ram in the fifth, a calf

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<v Speaker 1>in the sixth and ox, and in the seventh a child.

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<v Speaker 1>Molok was an insatiable god, devouring everything that was offered

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<v Speaker 1>to him. It said that the massive bronze Idol was

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<v Speaker 1>built with arms that pointed into the sky, palms upward,

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<v Speaker 1>and that whatever was placed into the palms rolled down

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<v Speaker 1>into his open mouth and into the hollow belly, where

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<v Speaker 1>a fire burned day and night. The worshippers offered children

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<v Speaker 1>and babies into Molok's flames to ward off destruction or

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<v Speaker 1>ensure prosperity. In a ritual. The twelfth century Rabbi Rashi

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<v Speaker 1>described this way, and they heeded him from his lower parts,

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<v Speaker 1>and his hands being stretched out and made hot. They

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<v Speaker 1>put the child between his hands, and it was burnt

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<v Speaker 1>when it vehemently cried out. But the priests beat a

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<v Speaker 1>drum that the father might not hear the voice of

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<v Speaker 1>his own son, and that his heart might not be moved. Oftentimes,

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<v Speaker 1>the children had been bought from poor families, and if

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<v Speaker 1>the parents shed a single tear during the sacrifice, the

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<v Speaker 1>entire ritual would be null and void. The sacrifice wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be accepted, and they would have to return the money,

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<v Speaker 1>and their child would still be dead. Now, the God

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<v Speaker 1>of the Israelites was having none of it, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why he thunders in Leviticus, and thou shalt not let

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<v Speaker 1>any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molick.

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<v Speaker 1>Neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God. I

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<v Speaker 1>am the Lord. The Hebrew Bible also names the place

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<v Speaker 1>where these sacrifices were made in the Book of Jeremiah.

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<v Speaker 1>And they built up the high places of ball, which

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<v Speaker 1>are in the valley of the sons of Hainom, to

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<v Speaker 1>cause their sons and daughters to pass through the fire

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<v Speaker 1>onto Moloch, which I commanded them. Not that valley where

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of children were burned in sacrifice is found in Jerusalem,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's known by the name of Gehenna or Gehennum.

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<v Speaker 1>But Gehennum is not just that physical place, that valley

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<v Speaker 1>in Jerusalem. In Judaism, the word Gahnum is also used

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<v Speaker 1>to describe the place of torment reserved for the wicked

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<v Speaker 1>after death, and the New Testament used the Greek form Gehenna,

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned twelve times in the same sense, and in the

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<v Speaker 1>Islamic religion, the name of the place of eternal damnation

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<v Speaker 1>is mentioned dozens and dozens of times in scripture and

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<v Speaker 1>prophetic traditions, is called Jehannum. No horrifying detail is spared

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<v Speaker 1>throughout these traditions and describing this place of everlasting punishment.

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<v Speaker 1>The second century Apocalypse of Peter tell us that in

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<v Speaker 1>Hell those who blaspheme the name of the Lord are

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<v Speaker 1>suspended by their tongues over flaming lake. Murder victims get

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<v Speaker 1>to witness the endless torment and torture of their murderers,

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<v Speaker 1>and those who slander others have their eyes burned out

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<v Speaker 1>by hot irons. The New Testament describes Hell as a

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<v Speaker 1>place of no escape, a second, unending death for those

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<v Speaker 1>trapped in it, where the worm does not die, and

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<v Speaker 1>the fire is not quenched, and the smoke of the

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<v Speaker 1>tormented goes up forever and ever, and they have no

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<v Speaker 1>rest day and night. And the Islamic sources go even

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<v Speaker 1>further in details, describing a place where the suffering is

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<v Speaker 1>both physical and spiritual, where sufferers are covered in blazing

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<v Speaker 1>pitch and tar, their burned skins exchanged constantly for new

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<v Speaker 1>ones so they continue to feel pain. Where when they

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<v Speaker 1>cry for food and drink, they're given boiling, putrid water

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<v Speaker 1>and thorny, dry vegetation that provides no respite from thirst

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<v Speaker 1>or hunger. Hell itself is said to be huge, split

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<v Speaker 1>into levels, with seven gates of entry, sinners sorted according

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<v Speaker 1>to their sins, in a pit that is so deep

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<v Speaker 1>that if a stone is thrown into it it would

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<v Speaker 1>take seventy years to reach the bottom. Its walls so

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<v Speaker 1>thick that it would take forty years just to walk therewith.

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<v Speaker 1>It's said that on the day of Judgment, Hell will

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<v Speaker 1>be dragged before all of mankind with seventy thousand rains,

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<v Speaker 1>and every single reign will be held by seventy thousand angels.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell will breathe inhaling and exhaling like a sentient being,

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<v Speaker 1>roaring and fury. And God will ask Hell whether it

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<v Speaker 1>is full and satisfied yet, and Hell will answer, are

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<v Speaker 1>there any more to come? And in this hell, according

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<v Speaker 1>to sources from each of the Abrahamic religions, you will

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<v Speaker 1>find Satan, both captive but also commanding, trapped himself in

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<v Speaker 1>the hell fire, but with the power to order his

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<v Speaker 1>legions of demon gin to wreak havoc on mankind. At least,

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<v Speaker 1>according to revelations, he was locked up there for an

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<v Speaker 1>appointed time. Then I saw an angel coming down from Heaven,

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<v Speaker 1>holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit

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<v Speaker 1>and a great chain. He sees the dragon, the ancient serpent,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand years, and threw him into the pit and

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<v Speaker 1>locked and sealed it over, so that he would deceive

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<v Speaker 1>the nation's no more until the thousand years were ended.

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<v Speaker 1>After that he must be let out. For most believers,

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<v Speaker 1>though Satan isn't confined to anyone place, He can be

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<v Speaker 1>found anywhere except for where the name of God is invoked.

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<v Speaker 1>One prophetic tradition even says that Satan can be found

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<v Speaker 1>flowing through human veins right there in our own blood.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether Satan is still stuck in hell itself, or he

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<v Speaker 1>roams the earth, or flows through our bodies, or only

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<v Speaker 1>occupies our minds, well, the truth is we might never

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<v Speaker 1>know until it's too late, But we do know this.

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<v Speaker 1>The hell on earth that was created at Gehenna, where

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<v Speaker 1>children were burned alive for the pleasure of Molok, is

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<v Speaker 1>long gone. The valley itself, of course, still remains, and

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<v Speaker 1>today if the cries of those children still echo through

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<v Speaker 1>the sand and the dust, reaching across the millennia, you

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<v Speaker 1>may not be able to hear it because today, Gehenna

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<v Speaker 1>is a popular venue in Jerusalem for music concerts. When

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<v Speaker 1>Lucifer went from being the morning star in heaven to

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<v Speaker 1>the accursed Satan in hell, everything about him was transformed.

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<v Speaker 1>He was described before the fall not only to be

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant of mind and good of spirit, but also absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful to behold, Lucifer outshone the angels that surrounded him

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<v Speaker 1>with his stunning good looks. He was so handsome, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that in Ezekiel, God says of him, you were the

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<v Speaker 1>seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 1>You were in Eden, the garden of God. Every precious

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>stone adorned you. Your heart was lifted up because of

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<v Speaker 1>your beauty. You corrupted your wisdom for the sake of

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<v Speaker 1>your splendor. The sin of arrogance not only lost Lucifer

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<v Speaker 1>his rank in heaven and his favor with God, but

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<v Speaker 1>also his perfect good looks. He isn't described in much

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<v Speaker 1>detail in any of the sacred texts in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>what he looked like when he was transformed into Satan,

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 1>but the Book of Revelation in the New Testament describes

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the devil as an ancient serpent that looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>red dragon with seven heads and ten horns. Some texts

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<v Speaker 1>say that he's blind in one eye and has exactly

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<v Speaker 1>seven hairs on his chin. The story goes that Satan

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<v Speaker 1>once showed the prophet Enoch an egg and told him

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<v Speaker 1>that God had shaped the world like that egg, which

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<v Speaker 1>really Piste knock off because he knew it wasn't true,

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<v Speaker 1>so he told Satan no, No, God shaped the earth

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<v Speaker 1>like the eye of a needle, and he held out

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 1>a needle so Satan could get a closer look. That

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<v Speaker 1>didn't end well for Satan, because Enoch took the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to jab him in the right eye, blinding him in

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<v Speaker 1>that eye for good. But the horned, grotesque, forked tongue

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>tailed monster that we tend to imagine as Satan, well,

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>that image didn't emerge until the Middle Ages. According to

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<v Speaker 1>religious scholar Jeffrey Russell, in medieval times, the Church began

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<v Speaker 1>emphasizing the evil power of Satan more and more to

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>scare believers and the compliance, and along with that emerged

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 1>artists who didn't have much to go on from the Bible,

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 1>so they drew from various pagan deities to create images

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<v Speaker 1>of a fearsome prince of darkness, cloven hooves, horns, wings,

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<v Speaker 1>a tail, and other beastly features were cobbled together from

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 1>various myths and traditions to give us the goat headed

0:30:57.200 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Satan were familiar with. The fifty century painting called Inferno

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<v Speaker 1>by Italian painter Giovanni do Modina depicts a nightmare Satan

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>ten times the size of humans that suffer around him,

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<v Speaker 1>with wings and claws and two heads, one of which

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<v Speaker 1>is between his legs, both of them devouring some poor sinner.

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>In the Muslim world, Satan was similarly visualized, appearing and

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>painted manuscripts as a massive, dark, beast like figure. Writers

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>like Dante added to the visual with fantastic details, like

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<v Speaker 1>giving him three heads each munching on three great traitors

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>in history Judas, Ascaria, Brutus, and Cassius. His Satan has

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<v Speaker 1>the body of a human, six massive wings, furry lower legs,

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<v Speaker 1>and the claws of beast, and he's half frozen in

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>a lake of ice, an image made real by the

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>sixteenth century painter Cornelius gall. By the eighteenth century, depictions

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<v Speaker 1>of Satan had morphed from beastly to a human like form,

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<v Speaker 1>a deceptive sly we s lee figure one that we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen fairly frequently in pop culture. This Satan was less

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<v Speaker 1>of a threat because he would tear you limb from limb,

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>and more so a threat because he would trick, seduce,

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>and persuade you into sin. Think Angel Heart or Devil's

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<v Speaker 1>Advocate films in which Satan is personified as a manipulative

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>con man, luring people deep into the darkest parts of themselves. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>in many of these tales, the hapless protagonist has no

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<v Speaker 1>idea that they're dealing with Satan until it's too late,

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 1>until the weakness and their own soul has been thoroughly exposed.

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<v Speaker 1>But then there are those who willingly seek out the

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<v Speaker 1>devil in hopes of making a deal. But as we

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<v Speaker 1>all know, these deals are generally a losing prospect. Just

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<v Speaker 1>ask Dorian Gray or Daniel Webster. After all, the House,

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<v Speaker 1>or in this case, Satan always wins, even in court.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, allow me to direct your attention to

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen federal case Gerald Mayo versus Satan and his staff. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not making this up. Mayo alleged in his claim

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<v Speaker 1>that quote Satan has on numerous occasions caused plaintiff misery

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>and unwarranted threats against the will of plaintiff, and that

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<v Speaker 1>Satan has placed deliberate obstacles in his path and has

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<v Speaker 1>caused Plaintiff's downfall, and had therefore deprived him of his

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<v Speaker 1>constitutional rights. The court didn't just dismiss the claim outright.

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 1>They actually first considered whether or not they had jurisdiction

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 1>over the devil. He was a foreign prince, mused the judge,

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 1>so maybe he could claim sovereign immunity. Ultimately, though, the

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>court had to dismiss the suit, not because the claims

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>were outlandish, but because the plaintiff had failed to indicate

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<v Speaker 1>how exactly U S. Marshals were supposed to serve the

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>complaint on the devil address unknown if you will. The

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<v Speaker 1>Muslim scripture that Kuran minces no words when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to warning mankind about Satan. Verily, Satan is an enemy

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>to you, so treat him as an enemy. He only

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>invites his adherence so that they may become companions of

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 1>the blazing Fire. But while Satan might seem like an

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:19.360
<v Speaker 1>undefeatable adversary, the truth is the power balance between Satan

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 1>and humankind actually tips in our favor. He might be

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>an avowed enemy to us. But even then, Satan has

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 1>no power over anyone. He can't make anyone do anything.

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 1>It's because we have free will, that most dangerous power.

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.759
<v Speaker 1>We can choose right from wrong. We have the emotional

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 1>and intellectual capacity to know when we're hurting others, and

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:43.359
<v Speaker 1>whether we care or not about that is also up

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>to us. There's a fascinating passage in the Garan that

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:50.760
<v Speaker 1>lays this dynamic out clearly, in which the sinner condemned

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 1>to hell is pointing a finger at Satan, who isn't

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 1>having it, and Satan will say, when the matter is decided,

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<v Speaker 1>it was God who gave you a prom miss of truth.

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I too promised, but I betrayed you. I had no

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:07.800
<v Speaker 1>authority over you except to call you, but you responded

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:11.320
<v Speaker 1>to me. Then blame me, not but blame your own souls.

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I cannot help you, nor can you help me. I

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 1>reject you associating me with God, for there must be

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 1>a grievous penalty for those who do wrong and worship

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 1>false gods. And this passage takes us all the way

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 1>back to the beginning of Satan's story, when he fell

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:31.839
<v Speaker 1>from heaven, disgraced, for his arrogance and disobedience to God,

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>we are told, But there are those who say that

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>we are completely misunderstanding the story and misunderstanding Satan. Some Sufis,

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<v Speaker 1>those esoteric mystical Muslims, believe that Satan preferred to be

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 1>damned to hell for eternity than betray his devotion to God. Satan,

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>they believe, didn't refuse to bow down to Adam out

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 1>of arrogance for thinking he was greater than this dingy

0:35:56.880 --> 0:36:00.799
<v Speaker 1>clay creature. Rather, he refused to bow down because he

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:05.879
<v Speaker 1>was a strict monotheist, and Monotheists only worship and bow

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 1>down to one God. As a devout believer and the

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:12.879
<v Speaker 1>devoted lover of God's Satan would only ever bow down

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 1>to the Almighty and never to anyone or anything else.

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 1>He knew that God was God. He had been in

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.719
<v Speaker 1>God's company, in the company of God's angels. He had

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:26.359
<v Speaker 1>witnessed both God's heaven and his Hell. How then, could

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Satan prostrate himself to anyone other than the One True God?

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Even he wasn't that lowly. In fact, there's a well

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:38.359
<v Speaker 1>known story told by numerous classical Muslim scholars about an

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 1>encounter that Moses has with Satan. Moses asks the devil,

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 1>why did you refuse God's order to bow to Adam?

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:48.840
<v Speaker 1>And Satan responds that it wasn't an order, It was

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<v Speaker 1>a test, a test of his singular devotion to God

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:55.759
<v Speaker 1>and God alone in that case, said Moses, why would

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 1>God turn you out from heaven, turn you from Lucifer

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 1>into Satan? The accursed? This form, responded, Satan is just temporary.

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<v Speaker 1>It too shall pass, and as far as Satan was concerned,

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 1>his love for God remained the same. Now, I know

0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:15.359
<v Speaker 1>the reasoning here seems a bit convoluted, but it does

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 1>pose an important question about the nature of Satan versus

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 1>the nature of mankind. If Satan is able to say, hey,

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I never did any of the evil stuff that was

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:27.399
<v Speaker 1>all you. I never killed or hurt anyone. I never

0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 1>worshiped false gods. I never pillaged entire nations, enslaved and

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 1>wiped out whole communities. I just suggested these things to you,

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:40.359
<v Speaker 1>and your own pride and envy, greed lust led you

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to commit heinous acts. Well, then who is actually the

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 1>evil one here? If it's us, then it doesn't even

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 1>seem like we need Satan, because we can do terrible

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:58.640
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