1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Yah Welcome to the Hidden Gin, A production of I 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Grim and Mild from Aaron Mankey. Long 3 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: before man inhabited the earth, it was the exclusive domain 4 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: of the Gin. They lived in societies and communities, had hierarchies, 5 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: kingdoms with kings and queens, tribes with chiefs and ministers, 6 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: and of course ordinary Gin citizenst century Persian polymath Zakaria 7 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: al Kaswini wrote about that time in his Marvelous Home. 8 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: When Cosmology called the Wonders of Creation, it is related 9 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: in that his Trees that a race of Gin in 10 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: ancient times, before the creation of Adam, inhabited the earth 11 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: and covered it the land and the sea, and the 12 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: plains and the mountains, and the favors of God were 13 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: multiplied upon them, and they had government and prophecy, and 14 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: religion and law. But they transgressed and offended, and opposed 15 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: their profits and wickedness to abound in the earth. Whereupon God, 16 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: whose name be exalted, sent against them an army of angels, 17 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: who took possession of the earth and drove away the 18 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: jinns to the regions of the islands, and made many 19 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: of them prisoners. And of those prisoners was as a 20 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: zeal and a slaughter was made among them at that time. 21 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: As a Zeala was young. He grew up among the 22 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: angels and became learned in their knowledge and assumed the 23 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: government of them, and his days were prolonged until he 24 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: became their chief. And thus it continued for a long time. 25 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: This Jin as a zeal not only raised his ranks 26 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: above the gin, ruling over them for a thousand years, 27 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: but he also raised his ranks above the angels themselves. 28 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: It said that he had more knowledge of both the 29 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: seen and unseen realms, was more pious and righteous than 30 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: the angels, and even rose into heaven with them. So 31 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: intense was his devotion to God. There wasn't a place 32 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: on heaven or earth that he had prostrated himself in worship, 33 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: such was his love for the Almighty. But one day 34 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: it all came crashing down. He lost everything, and he 35 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: went from being Azazel, a jin among angels, praised in 36 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: the heavens and earth, to how we know him today, 37 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: despised and feared, condemned to the depths of hell. We 38 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: know him by many names, dozens, Ablis, Mastama, Belzebub, Abadon, Diabolos, Bafa, 39 00:02:54,840 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: met shadon Sama eel Satan himself, the accuser, the hated, 40 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: the adversary, the great deceiver. That's right, the one that 41 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: rules over the most evil jin the demons, is none 42 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: other than Satan, and all of his deception and treachery 43 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: is reserved for us, mere mortals. My name is Rob 44 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: and I'll be your guide into the world of the 45 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: hidden gin. Welcome. Yeah. Yeah. Every tradition that entertains the 46 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: idea of Satan has for centuries and longer debated whether 47 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: or not Satan is an actual entity. Even in those 48 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: traditions that believe very much in God and angels and prophets, 49 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: there are groups that way how my suh of scripture 50 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: is literal and how much is figurative. For many Sufis, 51 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: those mystics of the Islamic world, Satan personifies evil, but 52 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: may not actually exist as an evil being. Roumi, one 53 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: of the very few Sufi saints and poets known in 54 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: the Western world, viewed Satan as a manifestation of the 55 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: sins of arrogance and envy. To him, Satan, the one 56 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: I devil, represented a half blind intellect that could see 57 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: no further than the surface, unable to see the essence 58 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: within others. Others connected the characteristics of Satan to the 59 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: mechanics of the human psyche, with the angels representing the 60 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: light in us and Satan representing the darkness. But then 61 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: there is no dearth of literature and text, and sincere 62 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: belief that Satan is much more than just an idea 63 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 1: or a representation of our inner condition, too many. Satan 64 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: was and is very much in existence, just as we are. 65 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: He was born, he lives, and he will die. Satan 66 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: appears in all three of the Abrahamic religions Judaism, Christianity, 67 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: and Islam as a fairly similar figure, someone who took 68 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: a position among angels brilliant and beloved, called Lucifer in 69 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: the Bible, meaning star of the morning. He didn't stay exalted. 70 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: The story of Satan's fall from grace and from heaven itself, 71 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: why he was thrown out of favor with God, why 72 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: he became an eternal enemy to mankind, That part has 73 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: some similarities, but also some interesting differences. According to the 74 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: Jewish Encyclopedia, Semma, l the head of all demons, was 75 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: once a mighty prince of the angels in heaven. He 76 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: was born and will eventually die. He's a celestial being 77 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: that can fly through the air and can assume any 78 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: animal or human form. He's only mentioned by name as 79 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: Hassathan the Satan twice in the entire Hebrew Bible, and 80 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: both times in the Book of Job and the Book 81 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: of Zachariah. He's present as a part a divine counsel 82 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: of sorts a heavenly court, where his role is kind 83 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: of like a public prosecutor. Hence he's the accuser. He 84 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: not only levels charges against those being tried, he urges 85 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: God to meet out the toughest punishments. Beyond these mentions, 86 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: there's not much to be said in the Talmut about Satan, 87 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: and his role is as a figure subservient to God. 88 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: It's a different story altogether with the New Testament, though, 89 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: where Satan really comes into his own, appearing by name 90 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: thirty six times, having grown fully into the evil part 91 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: of the good versus evil dichotomy. Now we have all 92 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: heard of the various temptations of Christ by Satan, but 93 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: it's Satan's early interactions with mankind that really deserve examining, 94 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: because that's where we unearthed the root of his enmity. 95 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: Towards mankind. And in the New Testament that happens when Satan, 96 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: in the guise of a serpent, tempts Adam and Eve 97 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: to eat the forbidden fruit. But that again begs the 98 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: question of why why would he do that? Well? To 99 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: answer it, we have to backtrack just a bit between 100 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,559 Speaker 1: the Old and the New Testament to writings that fell 101 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: in between, and there we find one ancient Jewish apocryphal 102 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: group of writings known as Apocalypse of Moses, in which 103 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: Satan minces no words with Adam and tells him exactly 104 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: what his beef is. What asks Adam of Satan? Have 105 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: I done to you? Oh Adam, all my enmity, jealousy, 106 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: and resentment is towards you, Since on account of you, 107 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: I was expelled and alienated from my glory which I 108 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: had in heaven in the midst of the angels. On 109 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: account of you, I was cast out upon the earth. 110 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: On account of you, I was cast out from heaven. 111 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: When you were formed, I was cast out from the 112 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: face of God and was sent forth from the company 113 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: of angels. The Lord God then said, behold, Adam, I 114 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: made you in our image and likeness, And the Archangel 115 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: Michael called all the angels, saying, worship the image of 116 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: the Lord God, just as the Lord God has commanded. 117 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: Michael himself worshiped. Then he called me and said, worship 118 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: the image of God Jehovah. And I answered, I do 119 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: not have it within me to worship Adam. I will 120 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: not worship him who is lower and posterior to me. 121 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: I am prior to that creature, before he was made. 122 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: I had already been made. He ought to worship me. 123 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: This is the same story that appears nearly a millennia later, 124 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: but this time in the Muslim Holy Scripture the Koran. 125 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: Satan is called by the name Eblis in the Koran, 126 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: and of the eleven times he's mentioned by name, nine 127 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: of them are connected to this incident. When Satan refused 128 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: to bow down to Adam, God says in the Koran, 129 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: we said to the angels, prostrate to Adam. And they 130 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: prostrated except for Ablist. He said, should I austraight to 131 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: one you created from clay? Do you see this one 132 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: whom you have honored above me? If you delay me 133 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: until the day of resurrection, I will surely destroy his 134 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: descendants except for a few. Another story not from the Koran, 135 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: but from the Stages draws this saga out further. It 136 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: says that when God created the form of Adam out 137 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: of clay, but had not yet blown a soul into him, 138 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: a Blize was mystified. He began to observe this lifeless thing, 139 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: just slowly drying out, sitting propped up outside the gates 140 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: of the Garden of Eden, and he started to suspect 141 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: that it was just a hollow form. So it Belize 142 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: started throwing pebbles at Adam, and he heard a hollow clink. 143 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: What the heck? What was this creature? He had never 144 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: seen anything like it. He wanted to get a closer 145 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: look at the first human who lay there, quiet and 146 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: still lifeless. Yet, so it Blize entered the drawing clay form, 147 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: swimming through the body of this new creation, and low 148 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: and behold there was nothing on the inside. It was 149 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: completely empty. That for sure didn't impress Satan no way, 150 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: Nohow was the Belize going to bow down to this muddy, hollow, dumb, 151 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: powerless thing when he himself was powerful, made out a fire, 152 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: could travel through the heavens and the earth, knew everything 153 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: there was to know in all of the realms. And 154 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: it was this arrogance, this clear disobedience to God, that 155 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: was his downfall. But he wasn't going to go down alone. 156 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: If he would lose Paradise, so would Adam, and so 157 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: would the children of Adam now and forever. How are 158 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: you fallen from heaven, o, Lucifer, son of the Morning 159 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: How are you cut down to the ground, you who 160 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: weakened the nation's For you have said in your heart, 161 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: I will ascend into heaven. I will exalt my throne 162 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: above the stars of God. I will also sit on 163 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: the mount of the congregation, on the farthest sides of 164 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: the north. I will ascend above the heights of the cloud. 165 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: I will be like the most high. Yet you shall 166 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: be brought down to shield, to the lowest depths of 167 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: the pit. God was not having Lucifer's arrogance, as we 168 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: can see in this passage from Isaiah, and a new 169 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: chapter was about to begin for him. He would be 170 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: reborn from Lucifer the Morning Star to Satan the Despised. 171 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: In Islamic theology, he went from being ablist he who 172 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: has despaired, to Satan the adversary Shathon or Satan now 173 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: fully humiliated, was ready to leave heaven, but first he 174 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: had one rather important request. Satan asked God to be 175 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: given until the end of time to show God that, hey, 176 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: this claymation thing you think is so great, it isn't. 177 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: It's weak, it's limited, it's stupid. It won't be good 178 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: and right and pure the way you want it to be. 179 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: It will be corrupt and greedy and jealous and violent 180 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: and bloodthirsty. And I will prove it to you by 181 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: spending the rest of my days pulling it away from 182 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: everything good towards everything wrong. I'll prove to you that 183 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: you were wrong. So Satan raises the challenge to God, 184 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: because thou hast thrown me out of the way low, 185 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: I will lie in wait for them on thy straight way. 186 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: Then I will assault them from before them and behind them, 187 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: from their right and their left. And God responded, get 188 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: out from here, be gone with you, disgraced and expelled. 189 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: If any of them follow thee, I will fill hell 190 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: with you all tempt with your call, all whom you wish, 191 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: muster against them, all your forces, your cavalry, and your 192 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: foot soldiers, share with them riches and offspring, and seduce 193 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: them with rosy promises. Satan's promise is nothing but a deception. Still, 194 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: God granted Staton a stay of execution if you will. 195 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: He gave him all the time in the world to 196 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: see what kind of havoc he could wreak, and ever 197 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: since then it's been on. Satan began his assault on 198 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: mankind early in the game by deceiving Adam and Eve 199 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: in the Garden of Eden. While the Christian tradition relates 200 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: that Satan entered the garden in the form of a snake, 201 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: the Muslim tradition differs a bit slightly. According to it, 202 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: Satan approached a number of animals that lived in the garden, 203 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: trying to get any of them on board to work 204 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: with him, and all of them refused except for one, 205 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: a serpent. So he told the serpent, I'll protect you 206 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: from the children of Adam. If you can get me 207 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: into the garden, you'll be protected forever from them, and 208 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: so she agreed. She smuggled Satan into the garden tucked 209 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: between her two front fangs, and as they casually idled 210 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: by the original power couple, Satan heard Adam tell Eve 211 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: that man he wished they could live forever and not 212 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: have to die. That was Satan's in Now he knew 213 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: what Adam's weakness was, and he knew exactly what to 214 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: promise him in order to get both of these humans 215 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: to disobey God. If you remember, they basically had the 216 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: entire garden at the disposal except for a single tree. 217 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: And so it was that tree hissed Satan to Adam 218 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: and Eve that bore the fruit that would give them immortality. 219 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: We all know how that story ends. Satan succeeded, gaining 220 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: an early lead on mankind right out of the gate. 221 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: After all, if Satan couldn't have the garden, no one would. 222 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: Now when Satan was cast out, he had enough foresight 223 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: to know if he was going to wage and never 224 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: ending war against mankind, he needed some backup. In the 225 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: Book of Jubilees, another ancient Jewish text, Satan says to 226 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: God referring to angels, he was used to hanging out 227 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: with Lord Creator. Let some of them remain before me, 228 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: and let them park into my voice and do all 229 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: that I shall say into them. For some of them 230 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: are not left to me. I shall not be able 231 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: to execute the power of my will on the sons 232 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: of men. For these are for corruption and leading astray, 233 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: for great is the wickedness of the sons of men. 234 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: According to the Book of Revelation, Satan took one third 235 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: of the angels with him in his fall. He gathered 236 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: together those angels and armies of Gin together to become 237 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: his legion of demons, whose sole purpose is to do 238 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: his bidding. Along with their master, these jinn were also 239 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: given an extra lease on life. They would live until 240 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: Judgment Day, when everything on this earth perishes, and they 241 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: would only die when their leader did. Now Irish Lord, however, 242 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: says that not all those who were cast out of 243 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: heaven with Lucifer became demons. Instead, they believe some of 244 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: the fallen angels became fairies. The book The Vengeful Jin 245 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: recounts the story documented by Celtic folklorist Alexander Carmichael and 246 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: October of eighteen seventy one, Carmichael found himself stuck on 247 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: the Scottish isle of Barra, where he met a ninety 248 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: two year old storyteller named Roderick McNeil. McNeil was a 249 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: legend himself, known to never have worn shoes in his life, 250 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: he had never fallen ill, and he had the climbing 251 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: skills of a goat. Even in his advanced age, McNeil 252 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: regaled the stranded Carmichael with local fairy tales. But here, 253 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: he said, is how it all began. The proud Angel 254 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: fomented a rebellion among the angels of Heaven, where he 255 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: had been a leading light. He declared that he would 256 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: go out and found a kingdom of his own. When 257 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: going out at the door of Heaven, the proud Angel 258 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: brought prickly and biting lightning out the doorstep with his heels. 259 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: Many angels followed him, so many that at last a 260 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: son called out, Father, Father, the city is being emptied, 261 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: whereupon the Father ordered the gates of Heaven and Hell 262 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: to be closed. This was instantly done, and those who 263 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: were in were in, and those who were out were out. 264 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: While the hosts who had left Heaven and had not 265 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: reached Hell, they flew into the holes of the earth. 266 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: These are the fairy folk, ever since, doomed to live 267 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 1: under the ground, and only permitted to emerge when and 268 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: where the King of Heaven permits. The parallels between this lord, 269 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: Christian belief and muslutricition is pretty strong, and perhaps one 270 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: main point of difference is this was a belief or 271 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: Lucifer as he was known, an angel himself, or was 272 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: he a gin that elevated himself to the level of angels. 273 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: Christian belief is strongly in the angel camp, but Muslim 274 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: scholars are conflicted about it. There are strong scriptural arguments 275 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: to be made that he was an angel, but just 276 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: as strong are the arguments that he was and is 277 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: a gin on some level, though it doesn't really matter. 278 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 1: What matters is his role after the fall from grace 279 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: that Satan became master over the demons, the most evil Jin, 280 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: and to this day he remains oh. Some traditions say 281 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: after his victory over Adam and Eve he married the 282 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: snake that had assisted him, and they went on to 283 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: have many demon children, and the names of the most 284 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: powerful of his sons, including the seven Jin Kings, are 285 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: well known. There's Alower, the one eyed demon, whose wheelhouse 286 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: is tempting humans to lud and vulgar behavior. Then their suit, 287 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: the father of lies, and closely related in purpose is 288 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: his brother is a lumber whose domain is dishonesty and 289 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: corruption in business. There's Dust him, whose only purpose is 290 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: to ruin marriages by turning a couple against each other. 291 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: There's Tear, who is in charge of striking people with 292 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: disaster and injury. And finally there's Danish, the most powerful 293 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: of all of Satan's sons, who lives in every dark void, 294 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: attacks his victims with blindness, and even lurks inside the 295 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: dark wombs of women ready to cosmos carriages. Along with 296 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: these powerful demon sons, carrying forth his royal line as 297 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: the Prince of Darkness, are hundreds of thousands of less 298 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: significant offspring. It said that Satan laid thirty eggs after 299 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: being expelled from heaven, ten in the west, ten in 300 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: the east, and ten in the middle of the earth. 301 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: From every egg, a new race of demons and gin emerged, 302 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: like the ghouls, poisonous scorpions, terrifying nightbirds, venomous snakes, and 303 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: other creatures, each of them an enemy to mankind. Satan's seed, 304 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: if you will, is spread far and wide, and while 305 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: he has, like other jin, the ability to move between 306 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: the mortal and unseen world, he primarily lords over them 307 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: all from his very own kingdom. It said that he 308 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: presides in a huge palace that sits over a body 309 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: of water, guarded by tens of thousands of gin where 310 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: he holds court and presumably where he lives with his big, 311 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: terrifying evil family, And that palace is exactly where you 312 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: think it would be in the lowest depths of Hell. 313 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: Theologians have argued for millennia about Hell, just like they 314 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: have about Heaven, especially about whether it's a literal or 315 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: figurative place. Maybe we're already in Hell, having been kicked 316 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: at of paradise. Maybe Hell is all in our minds. 317 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: It's our fear and terror and despair, and maybe, just 318 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: maybe it's as real a place as the planet Earth. 319 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: Regardless of the majority of the major world religions entertained 320 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: the concept of Hell or very much believe in it 321 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: as an actual place, and in nearly all versions, Hell 322 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: is a place of fire. Fire, no doubt, strikes terror 323 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: in all humans, whether a punishment or a purification. Fire, 324 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: when we aren't able to control it, inspires fear, causes pain, 325 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: and in the end leaves us as nothing but ashes. 326 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: But also fire can be a means to an end, 327 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: a trial that we are willing to face, a sacrificial 328 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: device to get what we want. And thousands of years ago, 329 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: the cult of an ancient God understood that the Ammonite 330 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: deity Moloch meaning King, was a terrifying god worshiped by 331 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: the Canaanites, terrifying because the only sacrifice that appeased him 332 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: were children. Molok is sometimes depicted as having the body 333 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: of a man in the head of a bull, although 334 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: no such descriptions actually exist from that time, but rabbinic 335 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: texts do describe the deity as being made of bronze 336 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: and hollow, with seven compartments. Some have said that Molok 337 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: was a demon that humans made into a pagan god, 338 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: but not just any demon, one of the princes of 339 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: the underworld. In fact, Milton's epic poem Paradise Lost describes 340 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: Molok as one of the chiefs of Satan's Jin's, a 341 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: great demon warrior that even delivered a speech in the 342 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: parliament of Hell, who was then transformed into a deity 343 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: by mankind. The pagan priests made their offerings to Moloch, 344 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: and each of these compartments. In the first they put flower, 345 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: in the second, turtle doves, and the third, a you. 346 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: In the fourth, a ram in the fifth, a calf 347 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: in the sixth and ox, and in the seventh a child. 348 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: Molok was an insatiable god, devouring everything that was offered 349 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: to him. It said that the massive bronze Idol was 350 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: built with arms that pointed into the sky, palms upward, 351 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: and that whatever was placed into the palms rolled down 352 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: into his open mouth and into the hollow belly, where 353 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: a fire burned day and night. The worshippers offered children 354 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: and babies into Molok's flames to ward off destruction or 355 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: ensure prosperity. In a ritual. The twelfth century Rabbi Rashi 356 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: described this way, and they heeded him from his lower parts, 357 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: and his hands being stretched out and made hot. They 358 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: put the child between his hands, and it was burnt 359 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: when it vehemently cried out. But the priests beat a 360 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: drum that the father might not hear the voice of 361 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: his own son, and that his heart might not be moved. Oftentimes, 362 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: the children had been bought from poor families, and if 363 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: the parents shed a single tear during the sacrifice, the 364 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: entire ritual would be null and void. The sacrifice wouldn't 365 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: be accepted, and they would have to return the money, 366 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: and their child would still be dead. Now, the God 367 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: of the Israelites was having none of it, which is 368 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: why he thunders in Leviticus, and thou shalt not let 369 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molick. 370 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: Neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God. I 371 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: am the Lord. The Hebrew Bible also names the place 372 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: where these sacrifices were made in the Book of Jeremiah. 373 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: And they built up the high places of ball, which 374 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: are in the valley of the sons of Hainom, to 375 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: cause their sons and daughters to pass through the fire 376 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: onto Moloch, which I commanded them. Not that valley where 377 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: thousands of children were burned in sacrifice is found in Jerusalem, 378 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: and it's known by the name of Gehenna or Gehennum. 379 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: But Gehennum is not just that physical place, that valley 380 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: in Jerusalem. In Judaism, the word Gahnum is also used 381 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: to describe the place of torment reserved for the wicked 382 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 1: after death, and the New Testament used the Greek form Gehenna, 383 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: mentioned twelve times in the same sense, and in the 384 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: Islamic religion, the name of the place of eternal damnation 385 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: is mentioned dozens and dozens of times in scripture and 386 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: prophetic traditions, is called Jehannum. No horrifying detail is spared 387 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: throughout these traditions and describing this place of everlasting punishment. 388 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: The second century Apocalypse of Peter tell us that in 389 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: Hell those who blaspheme the name of the Lord are 390 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: suspended by their tongues over flaming lake. Murder victims get 391 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: to witness the endless torment and torture of their murderers, 392 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: and those who slander others have their eyes burned out 393 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: by hot irons. The New Testament describes Hell as a 394 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: place of no escape, a second, unending death for those 395 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: trapped in it, where the worm does not die, and 396 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: the fire is not quenched, and the smoke of the 397 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: tormented goes up forever and ever, and they have no 398 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: rest day and night. And the Islamic sources go even 399 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: further in details, describing a place where the suffering is 400 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: both physical and spiritual, where sufferers are covered in blazing 401 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: pitch and tar, their burned skins exchanged constantly for new 402 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: ones so they continue to feel pain. Where when they 403 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: cry for food and drink, they're given boiling, putrid water 404 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: and thorny, dry vegetation that provides no respite from thirst 405 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: or hunger. Hell itself is said to be huge, split 406 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: into levels, with seven gates of entry, sinners sorted according 407 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: to their sins, in a pit that is so deep 408 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: that if a stone is thrown into it it would 409 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: take seventy years to reach the bottom. Its walls so 410 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: thick that it would take forty years just to walk therewith. 411 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: It's said that on the day of Judgment, Hell will 412 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: be dragged before all of mankind with seventy thousand rains, 413 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: and every single reign will be held by seventy thousand angels. 414 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: Hell will breathe inhaling and exhaling like a sentient being, 415 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: roaring and fury. And God will ask Hell whether it 416 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: is full and satisfied yet, and Hell will answer, are 417 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: there any more to come? And in this hell, according 418 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: to sources from each of the Abrahamic religions, you will 419 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: find Satan, both captive but also commanding, trapped himself in 420 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: the hell fire, but with the power to order his 421 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: legions of demon gin to wreak havoc on mankind. At least, 422 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: according to revelations, he was locked up there for an 423 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: appointed time. Then I saw an angel coming down from Heaven, 424 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit 425 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: and a great chain. He sees the dragon, the ancient serpent, 426 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for 427 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: a thousand years, and threw him into the pit and 428 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: locked and sealed it over, so that he would deceive 429 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: the nation's no more until the thousand years were ended. 430 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: After that he must be let out. For most believers, 431 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: though Satan isn't confined to anyone place, He can be 432 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: found anywhere except for where the name of God is invoked. 433 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: One prophetic tradition even says that Satan can be found 434 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 1: flowing through human veins right there in our own blood. 435 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: Whether Satan is still stuck in hell itself, or he 436 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: roams the earth, or flows through our bodies, or only 437 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: occupies our minds, well, the truth is we might never 438 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: know until it's too late, But we do know this. 439 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: The hell on earth that was created at Gehenna, where 440 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: children were burned alive for the pleasure of Molok, is 441 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: long gone. The valley itself, of course, still remains, and 442 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: today if the cries of those children still echo through 443 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: the sand and the dust, reaching across the millennia, you 444 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: may not be able to hear it because today, Gehenna 445 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: is a popular venue in Jerusalem for music concerts. When 446 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: Lucifer went from being the morning star in heaven to 447 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: the accursed Satan in hell, everything about him was transformed. 448 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,239 Speaker 1: He was described before the fall not only to be 449 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: brilliant of mind and good of spirit, but also absolutely 450 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: beautiful to behold, Lucifer outshone the angels that surrounded him 451 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: with his stunning good looks. He was so handsome, in fact, 452 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: that in Ezekiel, God says of him, you were the 453 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. 454 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: You were in Eden, the garden of God. Every precious 455 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: stone adorned you. Your heart was lifted up because of 456 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: your beauty. You corrupted your wisdom for the sake of 457 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: your splendor. The sin of arrogance not only lost Lucifer 458 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: his rank in heaven and his favor with God, but 459 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: also his perfect good looks. He isn't described in much 460 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: detail in any of the sacred texts in terms of 461 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: what he looked like when he was transformed into Satan, 462 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: but the Book of Revelation in the New Testament describes 463 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: the devil as an ancient serpent that looks like a 464 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: red dragon with seven heads and ten horns. Some texts 465 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: say that he's blind in one eye and has exactly 466 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: seven hairs on his chin. The story goes that Satan 467 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,479 Speaker 1: once showed the prophet Enoch an egg and told him 468 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: that God had shaped the world like that egg, which 469 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: really Piste knock off because he knew it wasn't true, 470 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: so he told Satan no, No, God shaped the earth 471 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: like the eye of a needle, and he held out 472 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: a needle so Satan could get a closer look. That 473 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: didn't end well for Satan, because Enoch took the opportunity 474 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: to jab him in the right eye, blinding him in 475 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: that eye for good. But the horned, grotesque, forked tongue 476 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: tailed monster that we tend to imagine as Satan, well, 477 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: that image didn't emerge until the Middle Ages. According to 478 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: religious scholar Jeffrey Russell, in medieval times, the Church began 479 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: emphasizing the evil power of Satan more and more to 480 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: scare believers and the compliance, and along with that emerged 481 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: artists who didn't have much to go on from the Bible, 482 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: so they drew from various pagan deities to create images 483 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: of a fearsome prince of darkness, cloven hooves, horns, wings, 484 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: a tail, and other beastly features were cobbled together from 485 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: various myths and traditions to give us the goat headed 486 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: Satan were familiar with. The fifty century painting called Inferno 487 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: by Italian painter Giovanni do Modina depicts a nightmare Satan 488 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: ten times the size of humans that suffer around him, 489 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: with wings and claws and two heads, one of which 490 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: is between his legs, both of them devouring some poor sinner. 491 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: In the Muslim world, Satan was similarly visualized, appearing and 492 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: painted manuscripts as a massive, dark, beast like figure. Writers 493 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: like Dante added to the visual with fantastic details, like 494 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: giving him three heads each munching on three great traitors 495 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: in history Judas, Ascaria, Brutus, and Cassius. His Satan has 496 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: the body of a human, six massive wings, furry lower legs, 497 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: and the claws of beast, and he's half frozen in 498 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: a lake of ice, an image made real by the 499 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: sixteenth century painter Cornelius gall. By the eighteenth century, depictions 500 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: of Satan had morphed from beastly to a human like form, 501 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: a deceptive sly we s lee figure one that we've 502 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: seen fairly frequently in pop culture. This Satan was less 503 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: of a threat because he would tear you limb from limb, 504 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: and more so a threat because he would trick, seduce, 505 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: and persuade you into sin. Think Angel Heart or Devil's 506 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: Advocate films in which Satan is personified as a manipulative 507 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: con man, luring people deep into the darkest parts of themselves. Now, 508 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: in many of these tales, the hapless protagonist has no 509 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: idea that they're dealing with Satan until it's too late, 510 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: until the weakness and their own soul has been thoroughly exposed. 511 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: But then there are those who willingly seek out the 512 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: devil in hopes of making a deal. But as we 513 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: all know, these deals are generally a losing prospect. Just 514 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: ask Dorian Gray or Daniel Webster. After all, the House, 515 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: or in this case, Satan always wins, even in court. 516 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: By the way, allow me to direct your attention to 517 00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: the nineteen federal case Gerald Mayo versus Satan and his staff. Now, 518 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: I'm not making this up. Mayo alleged in his claim 519 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: that quote Satan has on numerous occasions caused plaintiff misery 520 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: and unwarranted threats against the will of plaintiff, and that 521 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: Satan has placed deliberate obstacles in his path and has 522 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: caused Plaintiff's downfall, and had therefore deprived him of his 523 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: constitutional rights. The court didn't just dismiss the claim outright. 524 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: They actually first considered whether or not they had jurisdiction 525 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: over the devil. He was a foreign prince, mused the judge, 526 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: so maybe he could claim sovereign immunity. Ultimately, though, the 527 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: court had to dismiss the suit, not because the claims 528 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: were outlandish, but because the plaintiff had failed to indicate 529 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: how exactly U S. Marshals were supposed to serve the 530 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: complaint on the devil address unknown if you will. The 531 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: Muslim scripture that Kuran minces no words when it comes 532 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: to warning mankind about Satan. Verily, Satan is an enemy 533 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: to you, so treat him as an enemy. He only 534 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: invites his adherence so that they may become companions of 535 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: the blazing Fire. But while Satan might seem like an 536 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: undefeatable adversary, the truth is the power balance between Satan 537 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: and humankind actually tips in our favor. He might be 538 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: an avowed enemy to us. But even then, Satan has 539 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: no power over anyone. He can't make anyone do anything. 540 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: It's because we have free will, that most dangerous power. 541 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: We can choose right from wrong. We have the emotional 542 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: and intellectual capacity to know when we're hurting others, and 543 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 1: whether we care or not about that is also up 544 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: to us. There's a fascinating passage in the Garan that 545 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: lays this dynamic out clearly, in which the sinner condemned 546 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: to hell is pointing a finger at Satan, who isn't 547 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: having it, and Satan will say, when the matter is decided, 548 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: it was God who gave you a prom miss of truth. 549 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: I too promised, but I betrayed you. I had no 550 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 1: authority over you except to call you, but you responded 551 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: to me. Then blame me, not but blame your own souls. 552 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: I cannot help you, nor can you help me. I 553 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: reject you associating me with God, for there must be 554 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: a grievous penalty for those who do wrong and worship 555 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: false gods. And this passage takes us all the way 556 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: back to the beginning of Satan's story, when he fell 557 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: from heaven, disgraced, for his arrogance and disobedience to God, 558 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: we are told, But there are those who say that 559 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: we are completely misunderstanding the story and misunderstanding Satan. Some Sufis, 560 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: those esoteric mystical Muslims, believe that Satan preferred to be 561 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: damned to hell for eternity than betray his devotion to God. Satan, 562 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: they believe, didn't refuse to bow down to Adam out 563 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: of arrogance for thinking he was greater than this dingy 564 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: clay creature. Rather, he refused to bow down because he 565 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: was a strict monotheist, and Monotheists only worship and bow 566 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: down to one God. As a devout believer and the 567 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 1: devoted lover of God's Satan would only ever bow down 568 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: to the Almighty and never to anyone or anything else. 569 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: He knew that God was God. He had been in 570 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: God's company, in the company of God's angels. He had 571 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: witnessed both God's heaven and his Hell. How then, could 572 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: Satan prostrate himself to anyone other than the One True God? 573 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: Even he wasn't that lowly. In fact, there's a well 574 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: known story told by numerous classical Muslim scholars about an 575 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: encounter that Moses has with Satan. Moses asks the devil, 576 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: why did you refuse God's order to bow to Adam? 577 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: And Satan responds that it wasn't an order, It was 578 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,959 Speaker 1: a test, a test of his singular devotion to God 579 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: and God alone in that case, said Moses, why would 580 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: God turn you out from heaven, turn you from Lucifer 581 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: into Satan? The accursed? This form, responded, Satan is just temporary. 582 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: It too shall pass, and as far as Satan was concerned, 583 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: his love for God remained the same. Now, I know 584 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 1: the reasoning here seems a bit convoluted, but it does 585 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: pose an important question about the nature of Satan versus 586 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: the nature of mankind. If Satan is able to say, hey, 587 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: I never did any of the evil stuff that was 588 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 1: all you. I never killed or hurt anyone. I never 589 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: worshiped false gods. I never pillaged entire nations, enslaved and 590 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: wiped out whole communities. I just suggested these things to you, 591 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 1: and your own pride and envy, greed lust led you 592 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: to commit heinous acts. Well, then who is actually the 593 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: evil one here? If it's us, then it doesn't even 594 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: seem like we need Satan, because we can do terrible 595 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: all by ourselves. Thanks for joining us this week. Next 596 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: week we'll be back to take you another step into 597 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: the world of the Hidden Gin. Until then, remember we 598 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: are not alone. If you loved today's episode, I'm gonna 599 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: ask you a big favor. Please stop my iTunes and 600 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: leave me a rating and a review, even if it's 601 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: just one short sentence. Not only is that how other 602 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: listeners discover the podcast, but it's also what keeps the 603 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: podcast going. 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