1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: On today's episode, we're tiling about news and the latest 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: trailers and everything that's going on this week. Hello, my 3 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: name is Jason Concepcion had I'm Rosie Night and welcome 4 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: back to ext Revision, the podcast where you dive deep 5 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: at your favorite shows, movies, comments and pop culture. 6 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: Coming to you from my heart. 7 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: We'll bring you three episodes a week, plus news and 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: this is news. 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: This is news finally and oh my good guys, more week. Honestly, 10 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: every week, every week is like the longest week in history. 11 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: So we will be talking about that long week. We 12 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: will be talking about how Jimmy Kimmel's show has been 13 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: indefinitely pulled, and we will also be talking about issues 14 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: with Borderlands for and Marvel News and a small is 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 3: bored of trailers because things just keep going even when 16 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: everything's falling apart, guys, and yeah, we're doing it, We're 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: doing it. 18 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 4: It's news. It's news. 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: First up in News. 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: Daredevil Born Again, Green Liak for season three as season 21 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: two is I believe just wrapping up. I think it, yeah, 22 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: just wrapped right. But here's the quote from Brad Winderbaum, 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: the head of Content and Streaming and Television streaming and 24 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: Animation at Pearl Series said that, uh, yeah, we're greenlit. 25 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: In terms of Daredevil, Yeah, we're greenlit for season three 26 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: and we start shooting next year. 27 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: So very exciting. 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 4: I'm excited me too. 29 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 3: I also want to pose, he said. In terms of 30 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: Dad Devil, Yeah, we're greenlit for season three. Potential season 31 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 3: three name change, no more Born Again, maybe a different 32 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: Moniker or something. We were interview with a vampire just 33 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: changed the third season to the vampire the stat I 34 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: think we could see something here where we change a 35 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: little bit more, be a team. 36 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 4: Name or a Dad Evil thing. 37 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, I also love that this is such classic 38 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: Hollywood news. It's like the quote is literally him being like, yeah, 39 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: we're gonna do that. We're making the show. It's like 40 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: we're making it and guess what, guys, calm, wait up next? 41 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: In uh oh, Jimmy Kimmel has been pulled off the 42 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: air indefinitely by ABC Television, ostensibly over remarks about the 43 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: Assassin and the Charlie Kirk murder, but the background of 44 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: this is also clearly that next Our Communications, the group 45 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: that initially pulled Kimmel kind of on their own from 46 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: their network of from their network of. 47 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: Of programming and regions. 48 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: That this is because they have a merger in the offing. 49 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: They want to buy another regional broadcast network and clearly 50 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: seeking to curry favor with the administration, has decided to 51 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: pull Jimmy Kimmel, and then ABC kind of acquiesced and 52 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: saying yeah, yeah, let's I guess maybe seeking to either 53 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: also do you curry favor with the administration or to 54 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: just kind of bring down the temperature has done this. 55 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I think that is what we're 56 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: getting at, because you've got the quote from the head 57 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: of the FCC. 58 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: Who said, quote, this is a very very serious issue 59 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: right now for Disney. We can do this the easy 60 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: way or the hard way. These companies find ways to 61 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: take action on Kimmel or there is going to be 62 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: additional work for the FCC ahead. 63 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 4: Very troubling, not good, trembling, bad times. 64 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: People have been talking about canceling their Hulu and their 65 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: Disney subscription. 66 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: And that was actually this is all very very crazy. 67 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: There were protests yesterday outside Disney, and those seem to. 68 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 4: Be going on. I think that, yeah, crazy stuff. 69 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: It is interesting to see this be the to mock 70 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: for a lot of people. But you know what, I'm 71 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: glad people are notes saying and yeah, let's let's. 72 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 4: See what happens next in twenty twenty five. 73 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: Zeo, let's see what happens there, twenty six, what's happening. 74 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back the cornings. Yeah, 75 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: and we're back. 76 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: Borderlands four came out this week, a series that I 77 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: personally love and play on consoles, so you do not 78 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: have any problems playing, but if you have a gaming 79 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: PC you might be experiencing problems. And a lot of 80 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: this is coming from you know, we've heard so much 81 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: in recent years about ray tracing, which is a technology 82 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: for producing graphics for games. You know, I first encountered 83 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: it on what's it called cyber Cyber or whatever seventy seven, 84 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: and I always turned it off because my gaby BC 85 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: can't handle it. And now there's DLSS Deep Learning super Sampling, 86 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: which basically is causing Borderlands to run like absolute dogshit 87 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 1: on many and many a computer. 88 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 3: If you don't turn on this specific feature, the game 89 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 3: does not run properly. Yeah, and this is an issue 90 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 3: because according to the PC requirements that were on Steam, 91 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: it should be able to just run on your basic 92 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,119 Speaker 3: gaming computer. But it doesn't. And this has been causing 93 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 3: a lot of drama. I feel like Boardlands is having 94 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: a it's been a tough three hundred and sixty five 95 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: days or whenever it was since they released the movie 96 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: and now this happening. But Jason, as a console player, 97 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: how is the game outside of the PC really fun? 98 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Borderlands. It's really fun. 99 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: It's comical, lots of guns, et cetera. All the things 100 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: that you want from a Borderlands game. It's there for 101 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: you in Borderlands. For if you're playing it on console, 102 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: as I do. Up neck trailers, folks with lots of 103 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: trailers headlined by well, let's just go through the first 104 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: of all, Good Boy, The boy coming out out sober 105 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: third is a horror movie from the pov of a 106 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: dog and it's a dog, a beautiful Australian Shepherd seeming dog, 107 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: protecting his family and it kind of Saw meets Yes 108 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: End of Home Alone type of way, and I love it. 109 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: I know, it's very exciting. I think the notion is 110 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: the original pitchures. It's like a haunted house movie, but 111 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 3: the dog is trying to protect you. It's all from 112 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: the pov of the dog. The person does not know, 113 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 3: so that adds to the suspense. And this is really interesting. 114 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,559 Speaker 3: This was going to be a very small platform release 115 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: straight through BOD after that, but the trailer did such 116 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: big numbers. I think it was over a million that 117 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: IFC decided like, okay, we're going for a full wide release, 118 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: I think this could be a secret word of mouth hit. 119 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 3: I know here with don Naw, you know we have 120 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: we have a good girl in our family. We also 121 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 3: have Kylo, we have multiple lions, we got multiple great dogs. 122 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: I know Common also has a dog. I'm sorry, I 123 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: forgot your dog's name. 124 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: Listen dogs dogs dogs. And is a fan of and 125 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: and Rosie is a fan of cozy content. Dogs are 126 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: cozy content. And I think a cozy dog movie where 127 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: a dog kills every all the bad guys. 128 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 4: Yea, but I mean, who doesn't want. 129 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: To see themself escape safely is something that I think 130 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people would take solace in. 131 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 4: Yes, I think so too. 132 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: Can you see listen? 133 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 4: Can you see him? 134 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: We could see him again? 135 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 4: Because now you see me, Now you see Me? Crew 136 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 4: is back with now you see Me? Now you don't 137 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 4: why movies keep getting made. 138 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: Like I gotta say, and I say that as someone 139 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 3: who has watched these movies many times. If you've seen 140 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: My lab box, I have like a weird obsession with 141 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: these movies. 142 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 4: How did they get made? Also, like the movie who 143 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: does Lewis Literier? 144 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 3: Have have like nude pigs of how how did this 145 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: get made? Like twenty five years after David Blaine was popular, 146 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: Like sleight of hand, close up magic isn't even a 147 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: thing people care about that much anymore. 148 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: I'm obsessed with these movies. 149 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: I also please join the discord send me a postcard, 150 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: dm me. 151 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 4: Is magic real in these movies? 152 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 3: Because I thought the end of the first movie revealed 153 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: that magic was real, But then when I watched it 154 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: again and I watched the second movie, I didn't know. 155 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: Also interesting new editions here we have Justice Smith. We 156 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 3: also have the kid from the Leftovers. I'm like, Bro, 157 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 3: you were like in an Oscar nominated movie, this is 158 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: where you went next? 159 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 5: Well? 160 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 4: I expect it really well. 161 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: First of all, I think that one of the things 162 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: that that Now You See Me franchise does is it 163 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:52,599 Speaker 1: is a place where critically acclaimed true Oscar level actors 164 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: can get a fucking bag. 165 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 4: They can get let me gay, let me get my bag. 166 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: And that is actually yes, with a fedora or a 167 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: bowler hat. 168 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, and in a tuxedo. And that is. 169 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: What's going on here. 170 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: If you haven't watched these movies, they're so insane, watch them, 171 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 3: you know, imbibe your favorite, you know, a substance of 172 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: whatever that may be, whether it's a coffee or a 173 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 3: joint or whatever, and watch this ship because these are 174 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: crazy movies. The new one sees a new team of 175 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 3: young magicians upcoming, gotta find what happened to the Four Horsemen, 176 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 3: And there is an unexpected studio connection. If you loved 177 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 3: the Studio, If in the last two episodes you were 178 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 3: wondering why Dave Franco kept doing magic and pranking everyone, 179 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 3: it's because he learnt the magic on the set of 180 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 3: this movie. So you must watch these movies to truly 181 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 3: understand the jokes of the studio. 182 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: Well, here's the other thing they're clearly going for. And 183 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: this is a lot My last thing on this Passing 184 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: the Furious is on its last legs. Like true, it's creaky. 185 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: It's creaky. I think very clearly. There are multiple series 186 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: out there that are being positioned as potentially the thing 187 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: that picks up the fast and the Furious audience or 188 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: fills that niche. 189 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: And I think this is one of those things. 190 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 4: And let's see if they do it now you sid me, 191 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 4: do it now you don't. 192 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 3: Could be my soon it will be now you see me, 193 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: Now you see a dinosaur when they cross over with 194 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: Jurassic Park, the one crossed over a fantastic board. 195 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 4: Never did, I mean cost them the furious. 196 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: The only thing they need to do right, and it's 197 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: the thing they seem to be doing with Now you 198 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: see Me, Now you don't, is make it more diverse. 199 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: The Fastings worked because you had the Asian guy, the O, 200 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: the black guys, you have the Latino characters, you had 201 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: the whitest guys. It was it was the most diverse 202 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: action movie franchise ever in history or even movie franchise. 203 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 2: And I think with the new crew. 204 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: Coming in, maybe Now You See Me is trying to 205 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: do that up next and most I'm most excited for 206 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: this trailer. 207 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 4: Ana Conda. 208 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: It's not a reboot, it's not a remake. 209 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: It's a reimagining of Anaconda as its own interior universe. 210 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: The Anaconda trailer, the movie starring Jack Black, Paul Rudd, 211 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: The wonderful in everything Steve's On is about, and I 212 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: urge you, we urge you to watch this trailer. It's 213 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: about a group getting back together to remake Anaconda, to 214 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: make a sequel, and they're seeking there like an independent 215 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: film crew that worked on the original now they want 216 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: to do a sequel and they're like seeking funding, meeting 217 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: to write a script. So there's like it it's just 218 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: kind of really wonderful and a wonderful way to think about. Yeah, 219 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: very silly movie Anaconda. 220 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 3: And it seems like they are at like childhood friends. 221 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: They loved the movie. They always wanted to remake it. 222 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 3: They have to do it. They're like, we got to 223 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 3: run and gun it. We've only got like nine thousand 224 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 3: dollars to make the movie. 225 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 4: And then we see them head in they have their snake. 226 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 3: Very quickly, the snake dies and they have to head 227 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 3: into the real jungle and find a giant super anaconda. 228 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 4: It looks so fun, so silly. 229 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 2: It's very tropic thunder kind of. 230 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 3: Yes, tropic thunder, Son of Rambo kind of like, yes, 231 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: I think this is the kind of way that we 232 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 3: need to see reboots and reimaginings and continuations of franchises. 233 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: We need to see them taking these kind of funny, 234 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: unexpected turns. And I think even though this does look 235 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: very comedic, obviously, Jack Blackpool at Steve's on, I'm so 236 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: happy to see Steve's on again. He's always so wonderful 237 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: and everything. As you said, Jason, I think that this 238 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: is a really clever way to take what to many 239 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: people may seem like a campy, outdated movie they don't 240 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: necessarily have good feelings about, which, by the way, go 241 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: back can rewatch it. 242 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 4: Because it's actually really good. 243 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 3: The original Anaconda is actually why does it have a budget? 244 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: Like it's like a fifty million dollar like Spielbug movie. 245 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 4: Like, the budget is good, the settings are good, the 246 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 4: snake is good. 247 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 3: Jennifer Lopez is good when she was an actor, Ice 248 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 3: Cube is good. 249 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: John Voight the last time I enjoyed John. 250 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 3: We used to make movies, guys, We used to respect 251 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 3: action films. As super producer Joelle said, this is a 252 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 3: Christmas movie. I think this could be a total banger, 253 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: very interesting counterprogramming to Avatar, Fire and Ash feels insane 254 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 3: that that movie is coming out this year. But yeah, 255 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: this will be the Christmas movie I'm looking forward to, guys. 256 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 4: I cannot wait. 257 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: Also shouts to the King of silver Lake, Jack Black, 258 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: who I see almost on a weekly cadence walking around 259 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: the streets of Silver Lake in the same tied ie 260 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: shirt and crocs with a backpack. Yesterday, just yesterday, I 261 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: saw him yesterday locking his electric bicycle to the street 262 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: sign in front of the Vista as he was going inside. 263 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: I think to either see a screening of one battle 264 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: after another or to watch all the kill bills. 265 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: Anyway, fine, let's seek a. 266 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: Quick break and we'll be right back with our interview 267 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: with director Bryn Cheney, the director of the new Dev 268 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: Patel starring feature Rabbit Trap. 269 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 4: Oh it's a good one. 270 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey Bryn, how's it going, Hi, Rosie, I'm all right. 271 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 6: How are you? Yeah? Good? 272 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 7: Thank you for taking time talk to me. I loved 273 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 7: the movie. I that was wonderful. 274 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 6: Oh thanks, that's good. That's gonna make things easier. 275 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How many people have gone and 276 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 7: been like a terrible movie? 277 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 6: I hate so either none or everyone And they're really 278 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 6: good at lying. But you know, either way. 279 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 7: Well, that is the of making art is once we 280 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 7: put it out there, we've got to be like at 281 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 7: the people like it. 282 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I know it's rough. 283 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 7: It comes really stressful. So I got to see a 284 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 7: brain Dead on a big screen. It was wonderful. I 285 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 7: would love to just know starting off kind of like 286 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 7: what was the origin story of this movie for you? 287 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 7: Like where was where did it first click that this 288 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 7: was a story you wanted to tell. 289 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 6: I think I think the very very early seed of 290 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 6: it was in a short film that I did in 291 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 6: thirteen and that did a film called Morrets in the 292 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 6: Wood Woes, which is a very like a modern fairy 293 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 6: tale that I made when I was living in Germany, 294 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 6: and I used that film as a way to connect 295 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 6: I've also been very interested in folklore of something I 296 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 6: grew up reading, Like some of the earliest books I 297 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 6: read or read to me were books about goblins and 298 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 6: fairies and trolls, and they were as a kid, they 299 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 6: were presented to me, at least I received them in 300 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 6: my little brain as part of nature, expressions of natural force. 301 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 6: And I had always wanted to do with films that 302 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 6: worked in that space where where there's more of a 303 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 6: folk tale or fairy tale logic where the natural world 304 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 6: and the unconscious realm or the psychological even lower than 305 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 6: that kind of unconscious, but those things are entwined or 306 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 6: connected somehow. So I tried it out with a short 307 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 6: film about a little boy who's got home problems and 308 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 6: then he encounters a woodland spirit who offers help. This 309 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 6: spirit might actually be a trickster. And I made that 310 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 6: film and it was partially it partially worked, partially didn't, 311 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 6: But I felt still like I wanted to explore that 312 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 6: that place where Yeah, just trying, I guess, trying to 313 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 6: just trying to figure out can I make films that 314 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 6: use folk logic or they use a fable kind of technique. 315 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 6: The cinema is pretty rigid, we have most Western cinema 316 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 6: is very rigid in the kind of ways that stories 317 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 6: are told, with certain kinds of structures and set up 318 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 6: some payoffs and ways that exposition are done. And I'm 319 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 6: on a bit of a mission to see if I 320 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 6: can bring some fairy tale logic into movies. This grew 321 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 6: out I think of that inclination. Yeah, yeah, And I 322 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 6: wrote it alone for a long time and then I 323 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 6: took it to my Dream Production Company, which was Spec 324 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 6: Division who was at Elijah Woods Production company that did 325 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 6: Mandy and at Night The Greasy Strangler. I mean, I 326 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 6: watched those movies and I thought, whichever fucking weird, beautiful 327 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 6: weirdos made these films, I think they're going to get 328 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 6: what I'm aiming for. So I managed to get them 329 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 6: a pitch deck and they just jumped at it straight away, 330 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 6: and then they've just been the most wonderful supportive partners. 331 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 6: And I think, yeah, you were at the screening you. 332 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, they were there. It was I was kind 333 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 7: of blown away too because I'm from England. I've written 334 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 7: quite like one of the things I love and that 335 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 7: I've written quite extensively about is like Daphne Orham and 336 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 7: Dealing Derbyshire. Yeah, I love them like I'd wanted I 337 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 7: have one of the I have, like there's I've got 338 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,239 Speaker 7: a trip tick of novels that I'm working on and 339 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 7: all of them are about a different analogue thing in 340 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 7: British history, and one of them is is that kind 341 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 7: of that kind of space? Yeah, I absolutely will, because 342 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 7: like I was just blown away because in my mind 343 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 7: that era of music and even they did a really 344 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 7: great documentary that was like a half documentary. Yeah, I 345 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 7: watched it a film first a few years ago. Even 346 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 7: that had that eeriness to it because I think the 347 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 7: music they were making was something entirely new, and I 348 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 7: think the power of that can kind of go beyond 349 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 7: the veil. So I loved that. And part of Elijah 350 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 7: and the producer was saying, you know, Daniel, they were 351 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 7: saying like they already loved that music, and they already 352 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 7: knew about the radiophonic orchestras. So what did it feel 353 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 7: like to pitch it to them and have them completely 354 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 7: understand it? Because I feel like it must have been 355 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 7: a mind blower what it was it was. 356 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 6: It was a mind blow that they even replied. And 357 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 6: I mean, I graduated film school nearly twenty years ago, right, 358 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 6: and so I've made quite a few short films and 359 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 6: this is my third time trying to make a feature, 360 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 6: and I've had I've tried to get an agent at 361 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 6: different times and I couldn't. I've done a lot of 362 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 6: pitching workshops people, and I was kind of none of 363 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 6: it ever really took off, and it never really felt 364 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 6: right to be someone that, at least for me to 365 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 6: go out and try to be what some other people want. 366 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 6: Convince people to like the things I'm writing. Please make 367 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 6: this please. It resulted in so much kind of pain 368 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 6: and like failure, and you know, so with this project, 369 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 6: I decided to do it differently where I was really 370 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 6: targeted about who I went to. I wrote, I wrote 371 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 6: my own favorite movie, and then I looked at loads 372 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 6: of movies being made in that space to figure out 373 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 6: who is making who's going to love this, and who's 374 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 6: going to genuinely love this without maybe having to trick 375 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 6: them or pure So they were the only people I 376 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 6: sent the project to. It took like a year or 377 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 6: so to get an introduction, and it was it was 378 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 6: quite securitous and like crafty. Once they got it, I 379 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 6: was relieved that they loved it, but I wasn't surprised. 380 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 6: This was like a targeted, targeted move from me. Yeah, 381 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 6: and I just that's been really the big lesson for 382 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 6: me and making the film is if you write what 383 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 6: you genuinely love and then take it to people exactly 384 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 6: as it is then and only give it to people 385 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 6: I don't know, like, if someone doesn't get it, move on, yeah, exactly, 386 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 6: And the right people have shown up along the way, 387 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 6: and this film took it still took a long time 388 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 6: to make, and it was a real challenge in a 389 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 6: lot of ways. It was a low budget movie. We 390 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 6: made remote environments in nineteen days on thirty five mil film. 391 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 6: But the people that were on the journey, but really 392 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 6: really on the journey, they made people like so many 393 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 6: of the heads of departments said this is my dream film, 394 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 6: Like I read this and this was the one I'm 395 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 6: waiting for, And we're now so close as people. Of course, 396 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 6: that's the journey. 397 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 7: That's the dream, right in making cool stuff with cool 398 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 7: people who get it is magic And Okay, So speaking 399 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 7: of that, could you talk about casting dev and Rosie 400 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 7: and Jade, Because they are the movie and it is 401 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 7: such an unbelievable cast it just you immediately just are 402 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 7: in the world with them and completely get it. So 403 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 7: could you talk a little bit about about picking those 404 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 7: is your your leading trio? 405 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 6: Yeah? Sure. When I wrote the film, I didn't have 406 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 6: anyone in mind. I just love characters for who I 407 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 6: thought they were, and because it's a movie with some 408 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 6: pretty weird swings. It's got some psychedelic stuff, some strippy things, 409 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:19,239 Speaker 6: and it makes some pretty mysterious and dreamy shifts. So 410 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 6: I think this movie will only work at all if 411 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 6: the performances are very grounded and are very emotionally tactile 412 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 6: or electric. You need people who were just there emotionally, 413 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 6: because because the movie is so mysterious, you want the 414 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 6: emotions to be present pretty clear way. So with Devil 415 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 6: was my first choice. We didn't think we'd get someone 416 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 6: on like that kind of level of like fame. I 417 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 6: never wrote thought I want a famous person. Actually thought 418 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 6: I'd prefer to have like unknowns real. But once we'd 419 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 6: financed the film we were able to go out and 420 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 6: look at casting. We decided to take a couple of 421 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 6: big swings first, so can we just go the Death Betel? 422 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 6: And then we looked into it, and he was his 423 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 6: agent was willing to look at the script. He read 424 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 6: it really quickly, like within forty eight hours or so 425 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 6: of sending it. I was sitting down with him in 426 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 6: London having a coffee Wow Trees and myth and how 427 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 6: he was really looking for projects that were director led 428 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 6: and a personal voice, and he was just he was 429 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 6: down to something risky. I think because also he just 430 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 6: made his own his own feature. 431 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, Monkey man such a good movie, yeah. 432 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 6: And such a labor of love for him, I think 433 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 6: down to go into even riskier territory and just to 434 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 6: trust it, give a filmmaker a shot, and like to 435 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 6: support a project it a bit. It's so personal. So 436 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 6: that was dev And then Rosie. I saw her in 437 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 6: Blue Jean, which her performance in that is just astounding. 438 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 6: She is, genuinely I think one of the greatest actresses 439 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 6: working today. 440 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 7: She's unbelievable. And I feel like in this movie specifically, 441 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 7: if people didn't know about her, they're gonna know about her. 442 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 7: Like the micro expressions on her face, the way you 443 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 7: can see everything she's thinking and feeling throughout the movie 444 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 7: is just so effective. Because the other thing I was 445 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 7: going to ask you not to, Jade, is also amazing, 446 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 7: So I do want you to talk about that. But like, 447 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 7: this is a movie where the mythological and the fantastical 448 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 7: are like in the music and in the sound design, 449 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 7: which I think is very brave. Like you're not going 450 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 7: to see a fairy, you know, in this movie, but 451 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 7: they seem to exist in that soundscape. So could you 452 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 7: talk a little bit about how you make a supernatural 453 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 7: movie about the faye? But you never physically show what 454 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 7: people would assume. You know, a fay looks like. 455 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, great, question like how do you do it? How 456 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 6: did we do it? 457 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 7: How did it happen? 458 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 6: How did we do that? I mean part of it 459 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 6: was budgetary, Like it was so like there were some 460 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 6: sequences where there was meant to be some sort of 461 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 6: light or shimmering and strange. The veil was actually a 462 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 6: physic going to be a visual presence in the film 463 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 6: as I'd written it, And we did not have the 464 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 6: budget for anyone really complex v effects or on set 465 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 6: practical effects because we were moving so much and so fast. 466 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 6: So there was really a budget reason, how can I 467 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 6: do this story only with sound and to do it 468 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 6: in a way that's not cheap and not just have 469 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 6: like creepy groaning offscreen feel like it's conscious and alive 470 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 6: and just coming in and out of reality. So so 471 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 6: much of it was down to Graham Resnik, who was 472 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 6: design on the film. He came on during the edit 473 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 6: and started building sound designs and textures and things long 474 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 6: before we'd lock the edit, and we could use those 475 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 6: in the edit sequence. And it would things to go 476 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 6: back and forth between the editor and the sound design 477 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 6: and composer, and so based on what they would create, 478 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 6: it would shift the edit and with it was a 479 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 6: very like fluid around, a collaborative way of piecing the 480 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 6: movie together. And the script itself has whole sound sequences 481 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 6: written into it. 482 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 7: Yes that they were talking about that yesterday. How you 483 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 7: would kind of in then and describe the sound. 484 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, to leave space for it, and that was 485 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 6: also part of the performances. You know, you mentioned Rosie. 486 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 6: Kind of the best things about Rosie is that she 487 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 6: really knows how to inhabit a silence, sit in the 488 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 6: screen and think and listen in a way where it's 489 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 6: just it's so captivating to watch because you can see 490 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 6: every little shift in her psyche and feeling as something 491 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 6: is being processed. And that gave us so much to 492 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 6: work with sounds where we can fill those gaps. And 493 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 6: one little detail is that the cinematographer Andreas Johannesson, who 494 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 6: did It's a beautiful job on the film. We were 495 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 6: talking about aspect ratios and which which aspect Raso're going 496 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 6: to shoot on and we we we talked about frozen 497 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 6: cons of each and we landed on this wide screen 498 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 6: format because when you frame a close up in wide screen, 499 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 6: you give all this, you have all this negative space, 500 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 6: and that is the space where the sound is going 501 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 6: to live. A film that was closer, it becomes much 502 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 6: more about the face and the eyes, but negative space 503 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 6: it can be about the things around them. Yeah, and 504 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,479 Speaker 6: we did little things like every every close I mean 505 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 6: lots and lots of close ups are actually done profile 506 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 6: with the ear in the center of the frame. Like 507 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 6: all the way through we've tried to put sound at 508 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 6: the front of the language of the film. Little things also, 509 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 6: like the characters will say, Daphne will say, most people 510 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 6: will takee men like I see what you mean? Do 511 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 6: you see what? I make sure that do you hear? 512 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 6: Do you hear talking about to make sure that the 513 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 6: language was hearing for until until whatever this is. This 514 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 6: is crazy detail of that. 515 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 7: No, No, I think that's amazing. I love that idea, 516 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 7: And I did think there was a lot of great 517 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 7: set up, like the kind of romantic moment that they 518 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 7: have where it's like the eyes of how you enter 519 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 7: the world and sound the ear is of how the 520 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 7: world enters you. It's like a really great thesis for 521 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 7: the movie. Okay, before I go, I have a little 522 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 7: bit of time left, so as somebody who I also 523 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 7: love like folklore and all this stuff. Something that I 524 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 7: found about the movie that I think is may help 525 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 7: it find like a wider audiences. Have you kind of 526 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 7: read much contemporary modern kind of fantasy? Okay, well here's 527 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 7: a just in case it happens, here's a tip. There 528 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 7: is an author called Holly Black and she writes Fay 529 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 7: dark fantasy kind of ya. But a lot of the 530 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 7: law and understanding of what you do in the movie 531 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 7: is very similar, because I think she's working from the 532 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 7: same stuff. So I'm just hoping that there is a 533 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 7: much wider audience for this than people may think, because 534 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,719 Speaker 7: I think there is this understanding of the Fay and 535 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 7: the notion that they're not necessarily like the beautiful, sparkly 536 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 7: creatures we've thought told as children, and kind of learning 537 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 7: a bit more about that world, I was like, Oh, 538 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 7: this is really interesting. I'd love to see if it 539 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 7: has a bigger wider audience because a lot of women, 540 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 7: especially are reading books that are steeped in this world 541 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 7: just in a different way, you know. So yeah, I'm 542 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 7: very excited for that. Now the movie is about to 543 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 7: be out in the world. Is there like a moment 544 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 7: or a soundscape that you're most excited for people to experience. 545 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 6: I mean Darcy's first encounter with the fairy folk when 546 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 6: he goes into the woods. It's impossible to miss because 547 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 6: it's a yeah, it's literally the microphone following sound the 548 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 6: woods that took us so long to create, and it's 549 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 6: got so many beautiful textures coming through it that I 550 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 6: think it's just a beautiful bit of sound design work. 551 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 6: So that bit, and but also I do want to 552 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 6: say that we did something. This is just a little 553 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 6: bonus for anyone that really likes the film, is that 554 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 6: we did something different with the sound design and the credits. 555 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 6: Most movies will start a song during the credits to 556 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 6: break the tension and let you know it's time to leave, 557 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 6: it's okay to go. But my sound designer, Graham, right 558 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 6: in the last day of the mix brought me this. 559 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 6: It was like, okay, I've done something. Sit down over listen, 560 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 6: and he did this beautiful kind of eight minute sound design. 561 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 6: It's almost like a meditation journey of sound design where 562 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 6: you go through different environments we've encountered in the film, 563 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 6: like storms, the inside of a cave to the underground 564 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 6: itself and then into the fairy the sound of the fairies, 565 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 6: and it's this beautiful, kind of flowing journey of sound. 566 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 6: And on the second screening at Sundance, I was really 567 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 6: happy to see that the audience started to clock, Oh, 568 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 6: this is actually rush to enjoy, to like lie back 569 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 6: and maybe just go on a little sound journey. People 570 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 6: starting to lie down and close their eyes. 571 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 7: I love that. 572 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 6: I'm gonna do it as well. And it was such 573 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 6: a beautiful way to end a movie instead of just 574 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 6: going jumping up or getting on your side, for everyone 575 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 6: just to stop, lie down, have a silent moment of 576 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 6: just letting the sound wash over you and then reflect 577 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 6: on what's just happened in the film. Yeah, that's my dream. 578 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 6: Is that more people? 579 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 4: Well, I love that. 580 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 7: I mean even at Brain Dead, everyone sat one that 581 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 7: when those credits were going on, they kept the lights 582 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 7: down and kind of set up the Q and A, 583 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 7: but we were all just sitting there kind of having 584 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 7: it wash over us. 585 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 6: Oh, this is a thing. Should I clap? Should I go? 586 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 6: And then I think at some point you go, oh no, 587 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 6: I'm allowed to just sit here for a bit and 588 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 6: do the thing. That the movie is about, which is 589 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 6: stop and listen to the outside and to the inside. 590 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 7: Mm hm. 591 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 6: So I hope people love that bit of it as well. 592 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 7: I love that and thank you for letting now my 593 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 7: listeners will know, so they'll be able to do that 594 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:18,959 Speaker 7: when they go and see it. 595 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 6: Yeah. 596 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 7: I think the movie is won ful. I'm excited for 597 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 7: other people to see it. And yeah, I'm also excited 598 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 7: for the inevitable vinyl soundtrack, which I feel like has 599 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 7: to be coming. 600 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 6: That would be great. Yeah, we should put out on 601 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 6: a reel to reels as well. 602 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, imagine I feel late. 603 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like Muton and Elijah would be down. 604 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 6: We just need the film to do quite well to justice. 605 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 7: We're doing it. We're going to go see it. Guys, 606 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 7: go see it. Street themes, diolic and zeros. Yeah, thank 607 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 7: you so much, brend. This was a joy, and I 608 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 7: appreciate you taking the time to talk to me. 609 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 3: That was my chat with Brin Cheney. I cannot recommend 610 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 3: enough guys go see Rabbit Trap. It's such a unique, fun, 611 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 3: weird folk horror movie. Dev Patel is shining as usual, 612 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 3: so's Rosie mceeu and it's a truly a gem, and 613 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 3: newcomer Jade Crude one of the creepiest performances you'll ever see. 614 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 4: So thanks again, Brinn. 615 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 3: Rabbit Trap is out now and here's what's coming up next. 616 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 4: On X ray Vision. 617 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: On next week's episode of X ray Vision, We're diving 618 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: into Peacemaker, We're diving into the finale of Alien Earth 619 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: and more. 620 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 2: That's it for news. 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