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Speaker 1: This the One Bills Live presented by Calllida Help.

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Speaker 2: Wait minute to Friday.

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Speaker 3: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you here on one Bills

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Speaker 3: Live and made it through the week. How hard was

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Speaker 3: the rain last night in your neighborhood? We were getting pounded?

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Speaker 4: Was very hard. We were we were out, like it

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Speaker 5: We were at a we were in and out of

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Speaker 5: the house doing something and it came. First of all

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Speaker 5: was lightning strike, you know, like and I mean it

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Speaker 5: turned on like a fire hose. I mean it was

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Speaker 5: like it was like directional powerwat It was like a powerwater.

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Speaker 5: It was like unbelievable. You could hear it on the

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Speaker 5: inside of it. I mean it was just off and

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Speaker 5: you look outside and it's like, you know, skipper going

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Speaker 5: down in that. It was bad then, surely not for

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Speaker 5: the courage of the Fearless crew.

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Speaker 4: The mintal was lost.

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Speaker 2: It was bad out, I mean really bad.

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Speaker 3: I saw those orange and red dots across the screen

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Speaker 3: when the meteorologists were giving you the forecast.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, we were driving in for it tonight.

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Speaker 4: We're driving to our house down a road.

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Speaker 5: It was a hilly and there was all the the COVID,

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Speaker 5: you know, everybody's driveway. And it was on a hilly

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Speaker 5: it was in a hilly section of the you know,

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Speaker 5: the village, and all the dishes were front because the

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Speaker 5: culverts were were full and they were some of them

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Speaker 5: were stuffed and clogged. So the water was like just

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Speaker 5: over the roads. Everything it was you know, it was apocalyptic.

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Speaker 2: Over the washout for a little while. It was bad.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, everything was getting washed across the road.

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Speaker 3: I think there's rain in the forecast, like the next

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Speaker 3: seven days. It's not gonna rain for seven days straight,

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Speaker 3: but every day we'll have periods of rain.

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Speaker 5: It was according to the yesterday was a very serious

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Speaker 5: rainstorm here in western New York.

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Speaker 4: Very serious and it is.

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Speaker 2: I'm imagining set your lawnmowing back another few days with

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Speaker 2: the moisture currently on the ground.

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Speaker 5: Thinking about getting a combine wheat combine, either.

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Speaker 2: That or rent a helicopter to dry off your.

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Speaker 4: Ground, dry the ground off. Uh yeah, it is.

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Speaker 3: To do that at Yankee Stadium and used to bring

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Speaker 3: choppers in to dry the field.

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Speaker 5: When you when you bring a chopper in to dry

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Speaker 5: the field out, you got too much money, Well yeah,

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Speaker 5: you got too much ba you got too much money.

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Speaker 2: They did it though, trying to feel that make it playable.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you something that right there is a flex.

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Speaker 2: It is a flex. It's a little bit of a flex.

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Speaker 2: They were doing that twenty years ago. It's pretty good. Uh.

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Speaker 2: And you you actually got roped into the NBA last night.

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Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 3: I watched it and watched my Knicks as I was

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Speaker 3: cursing them and yelling at them, thought they had blown

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Speaker 3: Game six, and then Jalen brunts into the rescue.

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Speaker 5: My my NBA fan ship, yeah, is a little bit Hodgepodge.

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Speaker 4: I gotta be honest.

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Speaker 5: I don't really have a casual I'm a casual fan

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Speaker 5: like I grew up watching Wilt and Gail Goodrich and

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Speaker 5: Jerry West and the Lakers and all those yagey acts

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Speaker 5: and then of course Magic and Bird and all that.

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Speaker 5: The Pistons in the nineties against the Bull, the whole thing.

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Speaker 5: The Knicks, I've bounced around because I grew up in

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Speaker 5: Kansas and they ain't have you known have a hoop.

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Speaker 4: And so nowadays, now and I'm in my.

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Speaker 5: Later years, I just kind of catch the hot team

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Speaker 4: And glob onto and see how it's going. So the

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Speaker 4: Knicks are it right now?

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Speaker 2: Well not for long, right.

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Speaker 3: But last night the Knicks fan, I am a complete

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Speaker 3: realist here they have no shot, and it's like, it's

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Speaker 5: I turned it on. They were I turned it on early.

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Speaker 5: They're up fifteen. I was like, oh, here we go.

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Speaker 5: And then they're down one at half. I'm like, dudes.

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Speaker 5: Then they get up. I watch I go off and

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Speaker 5: I'm watching the hockey. I'm watching the hockey playoffs. I

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Speaker 5: come back, they're up ten and as I watch, that

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Speaker 4: Now they're down like four.

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Speaker 3: The Knicks are like every NFL team that's up twenty

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Speaker 3: and they relax, they take it out of gear. They

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Speaker 3: make dumb mistakes, they turn the ball over, all of

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Speaker 5: To be And as our listeners might imagine, Brownie and

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Speaker 5: I do have our finger on the pulse of the

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Speaker 5: sports media round right.

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Speaker 4: We watch it.

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Speaker 5: We got a couple of TVs in the office. We're

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Speaker 5: keeping what what are the stories? Everybody and other other

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Speaker 5: sports talk shows talk about other thing, other sports, other

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Speaker 5: than just you know, the bills like we do. So

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Speaker 5: I'm we're listening to it, and that now I I

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Speaker 5: have to hear. I grew up with Dave de Busher,

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Speaker 5: Clyde Fraser, who's the other guy, uh, Willis Reid, and

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Speaker 5: who's the other the congressman Bill Bill Bradley, all those

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Speaker 5: guys winning championships for the Knicks. And then I see

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Speaker 5: you know Ewing, John Starks, Earl oh, you know, and

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Speaker 5: I so, I'm I know some nick guys and Jalen

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Speaker 5: Bruns a nice, very nice, great player. Now he they're

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Speaker 5: saying he's the greatest Nicky because he hit a game,

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Speaker 4: Winner and a series winner in round one in Game

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Speaker 4: six that they were leading three to two. I mean,

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Speaker 4: come on, that's not.

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Speaker 3: The greatest Nick ever. I was like, oh boy, wow, let's.

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Speaker 2: Get it here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's like, yeah, he may not even look he's.

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Speaker 3: Done wonders to turn the franchise around and make them

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Speaker 5: Sweetheart of a dude team six to one guy playing it.

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Speaker 5: And if you've ever seen and some of the people

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Speaker 5: in Buffalo, we don't get a look at it much.

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Speaker 5: But back in the day when they were playing preseason

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Speaker 5: NBA games here in Buffalo and the old odd stuff,

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Speaker 4: We'd go down.

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Speaker 5: We had good seats for those games. You want to

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Speaker 5: see how tough it is for a six to one

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Speaker 5: dude to be the kind of player Jalen Brunson is

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Speaker 5: in that league with those guys, it's something else. It's

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Speaker 5: hard to imagine how good he has to be in

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Speaker 5: a league full of freakishly tall and athletic dudes to

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Speaker 4: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: But come on, bro, it's a it's a game six,

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Speaker 2: game winner. He hasn't won anything.

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Speaker 5: Come on, So I like the guy, continue to watch him,

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Speaker 5: But I like better than the Celtic I used to

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Speaker 5: be a Celtics guy too. I you know, you can

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Speaker 5: name all the players I used to like then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, sure, but.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, he's a good player.

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Speaker 3: The Knicks will have an early exit. Celtics will probably

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Speaker 3: win it in five. They're just a bad matchup for

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Speaker 3: the next They don't have any answers for them. Well,

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Speaker 3: despite their efforts last offseason with all the trades, they made,

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Speaker 5: Enough or well you see, yeah, you were keeping me

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Speaker 5: up to snuff on the trays they made. You were

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Speaker 3: I thought that they would be able to be better

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Speaker 3: on the wings, But I don't think Michale Bridges. After

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Speaker 3: watching him play defense against the Celtics nine times and

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Speaker 3: watch the Celtics win eight of the nine games in

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Speaker 3: the regular season, my opinion was quickly altered.

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Speaker 2: And she's, oh, we're still not good enough, right, got it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: So the right they've been have they been beaten like

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Speaker 2: Well, Celtic they.

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Speaker 3: Played nine times in the regular season and lost eight

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Speaker 4: So it's the game.

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Speaker 2: It's over in five games. Maybe it's probably a five

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Speaker 4: They're not gonna get swept.

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Speaker 2: Let's hope not. Let's hope not. At least try to

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Speaker 2: make a showing.

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Speaker 5: Up if they do get swept. I mean it is

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Speaker 5: New York. Yeah, do they sweep the corners of the building.

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Speaker 2: I think the coach could be in trouble.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they ax him and

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Speaker 3: then hire the Denver coach that got canned right before

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Speaker 2: What is that, Mike Malone, I think is yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised they put him in that spot.

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Speaker 3: But we'll see, we'll see what happens. I think it

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Speaker 3: losing close games and they lose in five, okay, might

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Speaker 3: be perceived differently. If they get shellacked and win one game, well,

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Speaker 5: Do you see anything about all right, but this isn't

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Speaker 5: a basketball show. I got to this because it's the

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Speaker 5: So Luca, Luca gave up, gave up forty one on

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Speaker 4: The guy he was.

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Speaker 5: Guarding, whoever it was, he can't play well, he won't

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he can.

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Speaker 4: Don't give me this.

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Speaker 3: First of all, when you're fifteen pounds overweight, and I'm

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Speaker 3: being kind, it's hard to play defense against fast, quick

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's hard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks bad.

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Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter if you score forty if you're

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Speaker 2: giving up forty one. It really looks bad. Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: looks bad. I know a lot of people love him

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Speaker 2: as a player. I'm not a fan.

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Speaker 5: Great, the NBA is not the NBA was like in

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Speaker 5: the nineteen I was here around in the nineteen seventies

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Speaker 5: where they didn't play defense. It was like one twenty

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Speaker 2: You know, Well, we're kind of back there now right now,

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Speaker 2: it's getting there.

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Speaker 5: But at least it's particularly in these playoffs.

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Speaker 2: It's been more physical.

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Speaker 5: They're banging and around. Yeah, they're knock more guys over.

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Speaker 5: This is a little bit more nineteen nineties.

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Speaker 3: Ish, more physical than the time during the Golden State

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Speaker 3: Heyday when no one played defense and it was a

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Speaker 3: three point shooting contest. Right, we'll see if it cycles

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Speaker 3: back around. I think it's kind of moveing in that direction.

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Speaker 5: But I don't mind mind the kind of basketball I'm seeing,

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Speaker 5: except that, Well, why are they changing it in the playoffs?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 5: I mean I get it, Well, there's eighty two game

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Speaker 5: seasons and you can't bang it like that for eighty

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Speaker 3: And the refs aren't blowing the whistles as quickly either

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Speaker 3: on everything. Some stuff, Yes, but not everything.

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Speaker 5: And now and you got but you got a lot

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Speaker 5: of complaining by the players during the.

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Speaker 2: just hole huh?

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Speaker 4: Like it was.

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Speaker 5: It was almost like it was almost like the draft

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Speaker 5: and the schedule release.

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Speaker 4: They were scheduled.

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Speaker 5: Man, you could know what's holdout season when you know

449
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Speaker 5: which guy's gonna be pay how long is it gonna

450
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Speaker 5: take him to sign? Are they going to be able

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Speaker 5: to get him into training camp and get him acclimated

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Speaker 5: so he can contribute right away.

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Speaker 2: It's just like, oh now, it's like bad. Now.

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Speaker 3: The lead story is who's got the biggest mattress that

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Speaker 3: they're rolling into the dorm at camp.

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Speaker 2: Who's got That's what it is. Now.

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Speaker 3: Some other draft picks that have begun to sign. ESPN

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Speaker 3: reporting the Packers signed their fifth round pick, linebacker Colin Oliver,

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Speaker 3: four year deal, four point six million. They also signed

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Speaker 3: their sixth round pick, defensive lineman Warren Brinson. Eagles signed

461
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Speaker 3: their fifth round pick Smile Monday dout of Georgia. He

462
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Speaker 3: signed his rookie contract, and then the Eagles later announced

463
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Speaker 3: they've signed rookie draft picks Kyle McCord, Myles Hinton, Antoine

464
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Speaker 3: Powell Ryland. So half of Philly's draft class is already

465
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Speaker 3: under contract, wasting no time.

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Speaker 2: To get deals done with their rookie class.

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Speaker 3: And look when you have them, when you have a

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Speaker 3: rookie wage scale, it's pretty easy. You just look at

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Speaker 3: what the player in that position, in that position and

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Speaker 3: or pick numbers signed for, and you boosted whatever the

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Speaker 3: percentage increase is for this year. Yeah, I mean that's

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Speaker 3: really kind of where it's at, so not terribly surprising

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Speaker 3: that it has already begun. We're eight days away from

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Speaker 3: the removed from the draft.

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Speaker 2: You got guys in.

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Speaker 4: The first round pick signed already stand in line.

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Speaker 2: It's still startling to me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why I say it is so different than

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Speaker 5: what we have seen in decades past, and it's there's

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Speaker 5: in such a better place. I mean, yeah, I'm the

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Speaker 5: league is they get it, and I've said it, I'll

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Speaker 5: say it again. The NFL gets virtually every single issue

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Speaker 5: and challenge that faces the NFL, whether it be on

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Speaker 5: the bookkeeping side, the financial side, the marketing side, obviously

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Speaker 5: the competitive side. They get almost every well, they get

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Speaker 5: every issue right. The only problem with the NFL is

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Speaker 5: sometimes it takes forever to get them to Yeah, it

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Speaker 5: takes forever to get there because it, you know, either

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Speaker 5: cost some little money or they want to make way

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Speaker 5: till the league grows and so it won't be such

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Speaker 5: a big percentage of their bottom line before they get

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Speaker 5: it right.

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Speaker 4: But they know how to get it right. They get

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Speaker 4: it right sooner or later.

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Speaker 5: They get it right every single That's why they're the

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Speaker 5: eight hundred pound gorilla fighting one hundred guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, have you seen that phenomenon? But that's social media,

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Speaker 2: that's the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Every every other sports league is part of one hundred

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Speaker 5: human beings. The NFL is the gorilla, right. They get

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Speaker 5: everything right and the only thing you can criticize them

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Speaker 5: for is sometimes it takes them too long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, to get something right, right right.

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Speaker 3: It is Friday. That means the OBL Friday fan mail

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Speaker 3: Bag is open for you. Any question you have about

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Speaker 3: the NFL, the Bills, the draft, who you wonder if

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Speaker 3: they had a good draft besides the Bills. We can

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Speaker 3: answer those questions for you as well. So whatever is

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Speaker 3: on your mind. What's left in free agency? Eight oh three,

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Speaker 3: five point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two,

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Speaker 3: five fifty those are the numbers to join us. We

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Speaker 3: do have open lines for you. Any question under the

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Speaker 3: sun about the league, the Bills, the draft, free agency,

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Speaker 3: you name it, Steve and I here to answer it

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Speaker 3: for you. Programming note coming up second hour the show,

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Speaker 3: we are going to be joined by NFL network analysts

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Speaker 3: for NFL personnel executive Mark Ross. He's gonna help us

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Speaker 3: out with some of the mid round gems that he

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Speaker 3: felt were secured by the thirty two teams in the

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Speaker 3: NFL on Day three of the draft. Names you should

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Speaker 3: look out for that you may not have heard of before. Naturally,

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Speaker 3: a lot of people gravitate to the first round prospects

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Speaker 3: and don't think much else after that. So Ross is

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Speaker 3: gonna Mark Ross is gonna help us out with some

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Speaker 3: of those names in the later rounds that he thinks

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Speaker 3: could make an impact sooner rather than later for their

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Speaker 3: respective NFL clubs. I've jotted down a few myself, Steve,

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Speaker 3: you know some of these mid to late round guys

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Speaker 3: that I think are going to help some teams pretty well.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry to say.

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Speaker 2: That I think the Chiefs got a couple.

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Speaker 3: They got a running back late in the draft that

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Speaker 3: I was hoping the Bills might take a flyer on

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Speaker 3: in round six or seven.

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Speaker 2: Smith Rishard Smith.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a wide receiver and switched to running

537
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Speaker 3: back just last year at SMU and tore it up

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Speaker 3: obviously as great hands being a former receiver, so weapon

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Speaker 3: out of the backfield, and he runs a four to

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Speaker 3: three to nine, so.

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Speaker 2: He's like their next. Isaiah Pacheco drafted.

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Speaker 3: Pacheco in the seventh round, runs a four to three

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Speaker 3: eight goes to Rutgers, comes out of nowhere and you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean, Yeah, that's what they do. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're good at it. We got to spend some.

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Speaker 5: Time talking about the you know, we always talk about

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Speaker 5: the Bills have been banging their head against the Kansas

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Speaker 5: City wall for you know, five years, six years, and

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Speaker 5: how in some respects the Bills follow them.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes.

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Speaker 5: We had this conversation about the Bills draft some guys

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Speaker 5: and handle handle their roster at like a year behind

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Speaker 5: where the Chiefs are because they they drafted their quarterback a.

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Speaker 2: Year behind the Chiefs kind of thing. And it kind

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Speaker 2: of went from there.

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Speaker 5: There's some fundamental differences in what the Chiefs do that

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Speaker 5: the Bills don't do.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And you can say it's it's good for them, bad

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Speaker 5: for us, or bad for them good for us, whichever

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Speaker 5: side you want to take. They're the ones that keep

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Speaker 5: winning the you know and going to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: It's ben a five out of six super Bowls. It's unprecedented,

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Speaker 5: and so they do a lot of they do everything right,

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Speaker 5: but there is some there's some fundamental differences in those

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Speaker 5: two commute, in those two organizations and what they think

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Speaker 5: about their draft picks and Andy Reid you can see it, man,

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Speaker 5: he didn't He didn't care who it is or what

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Speaker 5: he wants. Got fast guys on his offense.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no.

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Speaker 4: Matter what, no matter what.

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Speaker 5: And you know they so they you know, that's that's

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Speaker 5: what they do. It is expensive all else.

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Speaker 3: Right, And look, I mean, I I think that the

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Speaker 3: Bills do a very good job of adding talent through

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Speaker 3: the draft too. But the Chiefs, that's how they've stayed

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Speaker 3: as competitive and near the top of the league as

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Speaker 3: they have. You know, they they get rid of talent

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Speaker 3: that they feel is too high priced. Tyreek Hill being

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Speaker 3: the most glaring example. He wants thirty million a year. Sorry, Bud,

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Speaker 3: not gonna do it. You're gonna go there and we're

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Speaker 3: gonna get two first round picks in exchange, and we're

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Speaker 3: gonna make them count. And they and they did make

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Speaker 3: them count. I think it was Trent McDuffie and George

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Speaker 3: Carl loftis you know what I mean. So they turn

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Speaker 3: assets that they they choose not to pay top dollar

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Speaker 3: for anymore, move on from them and reinvest in the draft.

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Speaker 3: And it's worked for them. Bills have done a good

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Speaker 3: job as well.

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Speaker 5: It's those two teams kind of. There are a few others,

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Speaker 5: you know, there's a there's a handful of there's a

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Speaker 5: handful of teams in this draft that are good and

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Speaker 5: at this appoint in history where they they're all good

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Speaker 5: and they're gonna be good and they're gonna be good

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Speaker 5: in the for the foreseeable future because of the foundations

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Speaker 5: they've laid.

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Speaker 2: It's it's the Chiefs, it's the.

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Speaker 4: Bills, it's the Ravens. You can say Cincinnati is like that.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, Philadelphia is right there, Detroit is right there.

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Speaker 4: San Francisco was right there. There's like, what is that,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what that is?

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Speaker 5: Eight teams and those teams are hard to beat because

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Speaker 5: of the foundation they've laid with their head coach, their

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Speaker 5: general manager and their key players on their roster. And uh,

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Speaker 5: take your pick at which one of them they're all

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Speaker 5: good enough to go to and win it.

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Speaker 4: A couple of them approving that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So yeah, it's uh, you're just trying to keep

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Speaker 3: up with the Joneses, That's really what you're trying to do.

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Speaker 3: And obviously, the Chiefs have been the standard bearer in

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Speaker 3: the AFC for a long time.

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Speaker 5: Now we had that, we had this this event last

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Speaker 5: two was it last week? The Peyton Manning came into

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Speaker 5: town and yeah, okay, so we came in and shot

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Speaker 5: at Peyton's place, and it was about this Buffalo curse

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Speaker 5: kind of thing about why they can't do it, the

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Speaker 5: four Super Bowl losses and now that you know that

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Speaker 5: this team is knocked on the door and can't get there, and.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't think that.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's just one of those things where these

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Speaker 5: this group of teams is as good as you have

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Speaker 5: to be to get there and win it. There's a

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Speaker 5: group of them, and Buffalo is one of them. The

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Speaker 5: problem is if there's a curse in Buffalo is it's

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Speaker 5: the curse of always losing your last game. They're good,

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Speaker 5: They're as good as any team, and then you have

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Speaker 5: been at different times in their history.

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Speaker 4: They can't win that last game, whether.

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Speaker 5: It's the AFC Championship game in this crew, or the

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl with the crew I played for, or you know,

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Speaker 5: a Stanley Cup game where there was no goal. We

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Speaker 5: can't win that. You know, the whole thing. You lose

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Speaker 5: your last game, you can't just you can't keep winning.

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Speaker 5: Only one team does that, and so that really, if

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Speaker 5: there's anything that drives you crazy, that's it.

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Speaker 4: When we go, we don't want to lose the last game.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna keep winning.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so uh, the Bills are one of a handful

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Speaker 5: of teams who are gonna be there again this year.

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Speaker 5: You can count on it, as long as you know

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Speaker 5: the lightning doesn't strike.

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Speaker 2: Eight oh three oh five point fifty one eight eight

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Speaker 2: eight five fifty two five point fifty. The OBL Friday

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Speaker 2: Fan mail Bag is open.

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Speaker 3: Any question under the sun that you have about the Bills,

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Speaker 3: the NFL free agency, the draft, the schedule which is

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Speaker 3: up in less than two weeks. Fire away at eight

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Speaker 3: oh three oh five fifty. We got to take a

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Speaker 3: break here, but we go right to your phone calls

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Speaker 3: when we come back. Here on one Bills Live presented

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Speaker 3: by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. The OBL Friday

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Speaker 3: Fan mail Bag is open eight o three oh five

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Speaker 3: fifty on eight eight eight five fifty two five.

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Speaker 2: Fifty got some open lines for you there any question you.

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Speaker 3: Have about the Bills, the league at large, the draft,

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Speaker 3: free agency. You name it, Steve, and I'll do our

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Speaker 3: best to answer it. So we go to the phones

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Speaker 3: now and leading us off is Harman out in Rushford Lake.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Harmon?

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Speaker 7: Oh hi, guys, thank you so much for taking my call.

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Speaker 7: So now that we're in a post draft time period,

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Speaker 7: I heard some terms that I would like When you

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Speaker 7: have time, could you say a little bit more about

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Speaker 7: things that we have been hearing about, such as three technique,

665
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 7: two technique, deep knee bend, two handed swipe, and mister tasker.

666
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 7: Sending to your show yesterday when people were saying, Oh,

667
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 7: this guy's going to do this, and this guy's going

668
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 7: to do bad, and I understand you've been in a

669
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 7: locker room. You've been there, and you just said something

670
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 7: that made so much common sense. You said, not criticizing anybody.

671
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 7: You said it because you know it. You just said,

672
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 7: you don't know even if you don't remember that you

673
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 7: said that. So great show. I'm going to take the

674
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 7: enjoyment of listening to you and say goodbyden No, thank

675
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 7: you so much.

676
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: Have a good weekend. Yeah, thanks Harmony.

677
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 3: As far as the techniques, when we say he's a

678
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: three technique defensive tackle, we're just telling you where he

679
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: is typically aligned pre snap, and it goes all the way.

680
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: Out one to what is it three?

681
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 3: If you get all the way out to nine, it's

682
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: where they are aligned in reference to the opposing offensive line.

683
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: So a three technique defensive tackle will have their helmet

684
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: lined up on the outside shoulder of a guard. If

685
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 3: you're a one technique, you're on the outside shoulder of

686
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: a center. So it's just basically the alignment that's given

687
00:32:59,280 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: an assignment.

688
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: Bigger the number, the further from the ball you line

689
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: up nine technique, you're outside the tackle.

690
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's to call a wide nine and that's obvious

691
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 5: because you're way out wide from the ball. So uh,

692
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 5: and the and the everything is exactly what it's described as.

693
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 4: The deep knee bend means.

694
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 5: It's usually brought up when you're talking about tall guys

695
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 5: like the Bills have a lot of those, like Spencer

696
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 5: Browns and the Greg Russeau's of the world. There's six

697
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 5: eight dudes, six seven dudes.

698
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 4: Uh.

699
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: Sometimes guys like that have a hard time.

700
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 4: Getting low.

701
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 5: And when you talk about deep knee bend, those are

702
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 5: guys who do that, and it looks like a deeper

703
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 5: knee bend for them than it does other guys because

704
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 5: they're so tall and they have to do that to

705
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 5: get their pad level down to get leverage. And you

706
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 5: know that it's pad pad level is a big thing

707
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 5: in pro football, particularly when you get up front, right

708
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 5: down close to the ball where the.

709
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: Big guys are. If you have your pad level.

710
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 5: Low, you can you can go forward and you can

711
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 5: kind of lift get underneath the guy and lift him

712
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 5: and that that kills his leverage so you can't move.

713
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 5: You can move him more easily, move more easily, and

714
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 5: that's it's it's simple physics. I mean, you can do

715
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 5: it with you can practice it in your own kitchen

716
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 5: with your family members. You're trying to push him out

717
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 5: of the way for the fridge, right, so try it.

718
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 5: You get lower and it's easier to get him out

719
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 5: of the way, right. So uh, that's how I learned

720
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 5: it with my brothers and I was growing up right.

721
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 5: So all the stuff you hear about techniques and the

722
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 5: double hand swipe.

723
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 2: It's a pass rush.

724
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 5: It's a pass rush move and it and it usually

725
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 5: the name is the description of what they're talking about

726
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 5: when a when an offensive lineman tries to to put

727
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 5: his hand on a on a pass rush of those

728
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 5: long arms that Brownie.

729
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 4: Talks so much about you can control them out there.

730
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 5: To get them out there and keep them at their distance,

731
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 5: the defensive line will take both of his own hands

732
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 5: and swipe off and just wipe his hand off of

733
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 5: the him and at the same time moving closer to

734
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 5: him to that offensive lineman off his shoulder or off

735
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 5: his inside shoulder out or maybe into his chest so

736
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 5: he can get leverage and get underneath him. But he'll

737
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 5: swipe the offensive lineman's hands off of him so he

738
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 5: so he won't get controlled by him.

739
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 3: And he also closes the distance between him and the linemen,

740
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: so the lineman can't reset and punch again. If you're

741
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: too close to him, he can't reset and he's lost

742
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: the distance between.

743
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 5: When you can lock your elbow out, you're much stronger

744
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 5: with your body than you are if you're put. If

745
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 5: he's close to you and you're trying to it's like

746
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 5: trying to bench press the guy off you with one arm.

747
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 5: That's a much more difficult thing to do. So it's

748
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 5: all about leverage and and you know, getting in and put,

749
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 5: and you know it's very simple. Football is about pushing

750
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 5: people against their will. It's a physical sport that is

751
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 5: you know that most people aren't, you know, don't get

752
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 5: the chance to participate in Football's a hard sport and

753
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 5: it's complicated, and it's so we got all these these

754
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 5: this whole vocabulary to describe it, but it's something that

755
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 5: you even that's why it's so hard to find good players.

756
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 5: You've got to see them play it at the college

757
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 5: level before you trust that they're any good.

758
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: You can't practice it by yourself.

759
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 4: That's it. You can't practice.

760
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 5: It's not like basketball where you can go out and

761
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 5: take shots and do stuff and go through ball handling

762
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 5: drills on it. It's you can't play football by yourself.

763
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 5: That's why it's hard to get good at it. You

764
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,479
Speaker 5: need help, and that's why it's a great sport, because

765
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 5: you've got to be part of something bigger than yourself

766
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 5: in order to be good at and accomplishing anything. It's

767
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 5: a complicated sport and it has its own vocabulary. And

768
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 5: I know, and I appreciate harmon calling in you don't

769
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 5: understand the words.

770
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 4: I get it. It's a big vocabulary.

771
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 2: That it is a different language.

772
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 5: It's a different language and it's all its own, So

773
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 5: I appreciate the willingness.

774
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: To ask, Yeah, let's go to in Buffalo next.

775
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 8: What's up, Liz, Good afternoon, gentlemen. Steve had alluded to

776
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 8: a curse on the Bills being that we can't win

777
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 8: our last game. I thought perhaps maybe since we are

778
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 8: on Native land, perhaps we need to approach the Native

779
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 8: American community to do a pipe ceremony before the season

780
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 8: and also when they open up the new stadium. Okay,

781
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 8: I'll close up for now and wish you both a

782
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 8: good weekend.

783
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you to Liz.

784
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: I do know that we recognize Native American Heritage Month

785
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 3: every season in the stadium. I want to say it's November,

786
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 3: but forgive me if I have that wrong, as I

787
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: distinctly remember a couple of halftime yes ceremonies for that

788
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: the last few years.

789
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have no problem with that.

790
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

791
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 5: I think most of us have a great deal of

792
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 5: respect for Native Americans, particularly in this region, because their

793
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 5: heritage runs so deep here and rightfully so, so I'm yeah,

794
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 5: I'm all for that.

795
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: I'm whatever it takes me.

796
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, whatever it takes, and I yeah, so, I I

797
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 5: think that they have a pretty good relationship with the

798
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 5: Native American. You know, people here in Western New York

799
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 5: I'm talking about the Bills. I could be wrong, though.

800
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 5: If they don't, I hope they speak up. I'm I

801
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 5: think the Bills would go the extra mile toward alleviating

802
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 5: that rift if there is one.

803
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, okay, I'm.

804
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good that was brought up. That was brought

805
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 5: up in the Peyton Manning thing too.

806
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: That was really yeah, okay because not still out there.

807
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 5: Not only is high Marked the only NFL stadium with

808
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 5: a cemetery on on site, it also I had heard

809
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 5: that it is also ancient burial grounds for the Native

810
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 5: American people.

811
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: Which, yeah, which would make sense because I think we're

812
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: relatively within the region of what was the vast Seneca

813
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: Nation territory.

814
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 5: So I'm I would like to think that's a good relationship,

815
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 5: but I don't know.

816
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 3: Let's crack open some questions in the mail bag. At

817
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 3: one Bill's Live, Andrew asks, with the addition of Elijah Moore,

818
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: who do you believe is now on the hot seat

819
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 3: in the wide receiver group? For me, I believe it's

820
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 3: between Tyrrell Shavers and kJ Hamler.

821
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: Your thoughts. I think we got to see how it

822
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: shakes out. It's early.

823
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: I would say that you could probably confidently say that Samuel, Coleman, Shakir,

824
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 3: that's four, right, who am I forgetting? Those are your

825
00:39:51,440 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 3: top four and then from there it's more channel and

826
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: and Shavers, Hamler and the like come in after that.

827
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 4: So you would have to.

828
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 3: Kind of see how things shake out, and we usually

829
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 3: get a clearer picture of that at training camp to

830
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 3: see who's getting the reps. And Joshua Palmer, I knew

831
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: I was forgetting somebody. So you already got five locks there,

832
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: and that's not even counting Leviska Chanalt who was signed

833
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: in free agency on a one year deal. And we'll

834
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 3: probably vie for one of the main kick return jobs.

835
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, the number the names are Coleman, Hamler, Palmer, Curtis,

836
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 5: Samuel Khalishakir, Tyrrel Shavers, Lewiskus, Chanault, and Jalen virgil Is

837
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 5: on the Rocks.

838
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got called up for a handful of games.

839
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 5: And then there's then they've got some reportedly they're talking

840
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 5: to Guy and Kayden Prather.

841
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, the draft pick.

842
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 3: So I think it's going to be an uphill battle

843
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: for Shavers and Hamler to make the fifty three. As

844
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: we know, both of those players served on the practice

845
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 3: squad last year. Both got called up here and there.

846
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 3: I think Hambler got called up a couple of tighs

847
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 3: but didn't dress on game day if I remember right.

848
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 3: Shavers obviously did get called up and did play. Scored

849
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 3: his first NFL touchdown last year on an unbelievable catch

850
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 3: and run that went for like forty nine yards last season, Right,

851
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: he turned a short screen scream pass into a touchdown,

852
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: which it seemed very unlikely at the outset that was

853
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 3: going to be the outcome.

854
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 2: But here it was. Yeah.

855
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 5: He Yeah, he ran through a forest to get the

856
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 5: inside the busted loose and was gone.

857
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 4: Yeah it was awesome.

858
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it's an uphill climb for those

859
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 3: two just because of the depth that the Bills have

860
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: established through the course of the offices with firee agency

861
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 3: and the draft.

862
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 5: They will also still sign another guy or two wide receiver.

863
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 5: They'll usually go in with like thirteen guys at that

864
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 5: in the wide receiver room. Yeah, and they're eleven or

865
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 5: twelve at least. Yeah, they don't have quite that many yet,

866
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 5: so we'll see.

867
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: They got some undrafteds that'll probably come in when that

868
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 3: group officially signs this coming week in advance of Rookie

869
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 3: Mini Camp. Got to take a break here when we

870
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,200
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Speaker 3: oh five fifty one eighty eighty five point fifty two five.

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Speaker 2: The number to join us.

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00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 3: Got open lines for you there as the OBL Friday

886
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: fan mail bag is open. Any question you got on

887
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 3: your mind about the bills, the League, the Draft Free

888
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: agency letter Rip.

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Speaker 2: We go to Peter in Hamburg. Next, what's up? Peter?

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00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 10: Hey, guys, comment and then a couple questions. Well, you

891
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 10: are pretty emphatic that the Bills in the NFL get

892
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 10: everything right, everything right. Well, I disagree with that because

893
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 10: one thing they have not gotten right is consistent officiating.

894
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 10: If they get that right, then I think I'll be

895
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 10: much happier as a fan.

896
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

897
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 10: The second thing is the practice squad. Yesterday you're talking

898
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 10: about people that were going to push for starting roles.

899
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 10: Is there anybody coming off the practice squad from last

900
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 10: year that would do that? And the second question that

901
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 10: kind of answers the first. Are people from last year

902
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 10: automatically put back on the practice squad? Are they a

903
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 10: one year contract? Are they asked back? How does that

904
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 10: work that someone who's been a practice squad personal maybe

905
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 10: for two years, they've been in the system, they know

906
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 10: the system. Can they push themselves up? And is there

907
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 10: anybody there that could really challenge to be on the

908
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 10: fifty three?

909
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: Okay, yep, good questions, Peter. The officiating thing is is

910
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 2: I'll say this.

911
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 5: Replay review pylon cams, camera, their ability to go back

912
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 5: and look at stuff, get stuff right, spot in the ball,

913
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 5: the eye and the judge, the side judge, the sky judge,

914
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 5: all of that has It's gone unnoticed because it has

915
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 5: worked so well. The fact that they spot the ball

916
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 5: and move the spot, get up, get up, get it right,

917
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 5: that the games flows faster. They don't ever, they don't

918
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 5: announce it, they just do it. And that's one of

919
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 5: the things they're doing better. The sky the hawkeye technology

920
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 5: you're going to try this year. There's another step towards it.

921
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 5: And like I said, it takes them a long time

922
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 5: to get it man o Man, they are working hard

923
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 5: at getting it right, and they take tangible steps towards

924
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 5: doing it, so I would Yes, they got regular guys

925
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 5: doing the officiating, and there's more full time officials now

926
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 5: than there's ever been, and there's getting more and more

927
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 5: working towards full time officials. And the guys that are

928
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 5: doing it are as good as they can be in

929
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 5: a game that moves one thousand miles per hour, and

930
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Speaker 5: they're giving them as much technological support as they can.

931
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Speaker 5: So they're gonna get it right. It's just taking them.

932
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 5: Like I said, it's gonna take them a while.

933
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but consistent officiating, I think is a myth for

934
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 3: any sport, for any sport, because you got humans doing

935
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: it right, and humans aren't going to.

936
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Speaker 2: Be perfect, especially with the speed. As Steve said that

937
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 2: the sport moves.

938
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 5: Secondly, your practice squad question. The practice squad doesn't exist

939
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 5: until the regular season.

940
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 4: Right now.

941
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 5: Everybody is a ninety man roster, so everybody's on the roster.

942
00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 5: And yeah, a guy theoretically he could hang out on

943
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 5: the practice squad. Yeah, I don't know if then definitely,

944
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 5: I think it might be a limit on it.

945
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 3: Well, there used to be a three year limit on

946
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: practice squads when there were only seven players on a

947
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 3: practice squad. Then that got increased to ten, and then

948
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Speaker 3: twelve and then COVID and you have sixteen.

949
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: Now, which is great for roster flexibilities.

950
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Speaker 4: The number of guys on it, not the number of

951
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 4: years you can be on it.

952
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Speaker 3: Yeah, sixteen player practice squad and you can have I

953
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 3: think a half a dozen veteran players vested veteran players

954
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: more than four years in the NFL on a practice squad,

955
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 3: And to my knowledge, there isn't any limit anymore because

956
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 3: of that fact. Used to be able to have three

957
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 3: years on the practice squad, and then it was either

958
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 3: you're developed enough to make a roster or you didn't.

959
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming.

960
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 3: So it's a lot more flexible now to prolong opportunities

961
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 3: for young players. But the practice squad doesn't get formed

962
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 3: until a day after the fifty three man roster is formed.

963
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 3: You have your fifty three man roster, you make all

964
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 3: your cuts, and then the next day you assemble because

965
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 3: you have to have a twenty four hour waiver period.

966
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 3: Then the practice squad is formed and put together.

967
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 5: Can imagine the club's view of its practice squad, like,

968
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 5: you know, so Terrell Shavers is, are the Bills gonna

969
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 5: put him on the practe squad or they got him,

970
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 5: he still can't make their roster. They still like him.

971
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 5: But you know what, we've waited on him for two

972
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 5: years or two and a half years. We got a

973
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 5: young kid that we're gonna do it. We're gonna we're

974
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 5: gonna put you know, I'm sorry, We're gonna put Caden

975
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 5: Prather on there.

976
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 4: He's taken your place.

977
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 5: We want a guy with a bigger upside, a younger

978
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 5: you know, We're gonna do that. It's hard to even

979
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 5: an NFL practice squad is competitive. They can cut you

980
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 5: at any time off that thing.

981
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 3: And sometimes we see that here in the McDermod area.

982
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 3: There's been constant churned its practice.

983
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 5: It's the most fluid part of the roster. Guys come

984
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 5: on and off that thing constantly.

985
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: But to answer your last part of that practice squad question,

986
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 3: at the end of the season, the contract.

987
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: For practice squad is up.

988
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: They have a seven day window in which they have

989
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 3: exclusive rights to those players to re sign them, and

990
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: they'll be re signed as reserve future free agents, which

991
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 3: basically means they sign another one year contract. They will

992
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: be on the offseason roster all the way through the

993
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 3: spring the summer unless they're released and have an opportunity

994
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 3: again in training camp to make the fifty three man roster.

995
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 3: If they don't, they're relegated to the practice squad. They

996
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 3: kind of repeat what they did the year before, and

997
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: typically they'll do that with younger players because they want

998
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: to continue their development in the hopes that they could

999
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 3: be good enough to be on the fifty three man roster.

1000
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 3: But as Steve said, it's easier said than done. Zach Davidson,

1001
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 3: it's a perfect example. Here's a tight end. They sign

1002
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 3: him as an undrafted rookie. He comes in, he shows

1003
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 3: some promise, they bring him, they keep him on the

1004
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 3: practice squad. He comes back the following year, unfortunately tears

1005
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 3: his ACL. He's on ir all year. He heals up,

1006
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 3: They got him on the practice squad the next year.

1007
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 3: He actually gets called up for a game this season,

1008
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 3: makes his first NFL catch. At the end of the year, again,

1009
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 3: they sign him to a reserve future contract. He's back

1010
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 3: on the offseason roster here again. So he's been here.

1011
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 3: I think he's going on his fourth year now, right,

1012
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 3: still here.

1013
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 5: Here's the thing too, teams and when you're on the

1014
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 5: practice squad, Yeah, you practice. You learn the team's offense,

1015
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 5: you learn their defense, whatever side of the ball. You're

1016
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 5: playing on the scout team, and you run scout team

1017
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 5: and give you practice against the number ones. If you're

1018
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 5: a defensive back, you're playing against Khalishakir and all these

1019
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 5: and Keon Coleman and Kinkaiden these guys.

1020
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 4: If you're an.

1021
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 5: Offensive player, you're practicing against the number one defense. You're

1022
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 5: out there with Mitch Trubisky throwing you the football.

1023
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 2: That kind of stuff.

1024
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 4: You practice, and you practice hard.

1025
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 5: And you your job is to make yourself as good

1026
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 5: as you can be so that they want to put

1027
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 5: you on the game day roster and play you again

1028
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 5: against real NFL in a real NFL game.

1029
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 4: That's your job. That's your job.

1030
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 5: It's not to practice. It is to practice hard and right.

1031
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 5: But you've got to get better. If you don't develop

1032
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 5: and work on your deficiencies, they're gonna find somebody who will.

1033
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 5: You're it's it's a huge plus for young players to

1034
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 5: be on a practice squad because they got nothing to

1035
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 5: do but get better. And that's that's the entire idea

1036
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 5: behind it. And it also gives clubs like Buffalo. You're

1037
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 5: not gonna pull a guy off the street and he

1038
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 5: doesn't know any of your offense and you've got to

1039
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 5: play him at least in a practice squad. The guy's

1040
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 5: been with you for like David's has been there for

1041
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 5: four years. He knows the offense. They don't have to

1042
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 5: acclimate him. So it makes the game better on game

1043
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 5: day when you lose star players, at least you've got

1044
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 5: a guy who knows the words and the plays and

1045
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 5: what he's supposed to do to put in and replace

1046
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 5: the guy who's been hurting.

1047
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: Break time for us here our number two.

1048
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 3: We'll begin with NFL Network analyst and former NFL personnel

1049
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 3: executive Mark Ross, gonna help.

1050
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: Us with some mid.

1051
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 3: Round gems that we're taken in the NFL Draft. We'll

1052
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 3: see if the Bills made the list for some of

1053
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 3: those themselves. When we return here on One Bills Live

1054
00:51:15,880 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 3: presented by Colid of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1055
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: The one Bill's Lines presented by called lighta Health.

1056
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 2: And we are out on number two on a Friday.

1057
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 3: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and we used to

1058
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 3: bring in now NFL Network analyst, former NFL personnel executive

1059
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 3: Mark Ross, friend of the show and recently put together

1060
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 3: a segment with some of his NFL Network cohorts on

1061
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 3: mid round gems in the NFL Draft which finished up

1062
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 3: just a week ago. And as we understand it, Mark,

1063
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: there was a Bills player that major lists. Tell us

1064
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 3: who and tell us why?

1065
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1066
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 6: That was Landon Jackson, third round pick who I thought

1067
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 6: had a chance actually in the draft, maybe even to

1068
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 6: sneak into the bottom of the first And you know,

1069
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 6: when you watch players first, you just don't have to

1070
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 6: look for them. You know, they jump off the screen

1071
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 6: and Lanta Jackson really did that when I watched him,

1072
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 6: and you know, physical guy plays hard, he shows up

1073
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 6: all the time, you know where you know, he's productive

1074
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 6: or disruptive at what he's doing and played his best game. Actually,

1075
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 6: this will feel good to Bills fans against Will Campbell,

1076
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 6: you know, the number four picking the draft to the Patriots.

1077
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 6: I mean, he really wore Will Campbell out. So you know,

1078
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 6: I think you're gonna get great value there with Land

1079
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 6: and Jackson just because of the production. Plays a game

1080
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 6: right way. I know the Bills have taken a lot

1081
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 6: of swings on a lot of guys at that position

1082
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 6: in the last few years, but I think this one

1083
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 6: actually might stick and you know, have an impact player.

1084
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 5: Did this draft live up to what we thought coming in?

1085
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 5: A lot of defensive linemen, a lot of quality defensive tackles.

1086
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 5: I know it's way early in their careers and stuff,

1087
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 5: But did it fall kind of the way you did?

1088
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 5: I mean shadur stant with a side with his fall.

1089
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 5: But for the most part, this draft went just to me,

1090
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 5: it went just about like we all thought it might.

1091
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 4: To you, was there surprises?

1092
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 6: Well, I thought going into it that this really was

1093
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 6: almost the most wide open draft i'd seen where there

1094
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 6: was so usually there's like twenty some players like Okay,

1095
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 6: these guys are definite first rounders or something, and this

1096
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 6: I thought there was a lot of guys. I just

1097
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 6: mentioned Landon Jackson and where there was just a lot

1098
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 6: of guys going into the second and third rounds. I

1099
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 6: almost had equal value of those that got taken in

1100
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 6: the first round. I mean really, I could pick out

1101
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 6: some people that were maybe the even the tenth pick,

1102
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 6: eleven pick in the draft. I can't say we're better

1103
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 6: than someone that got taken in the second and third round.

1104
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 6: But you know, definitely when that run, you know, we

1105
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 6: talked about a lot of defensive linemen getting taken, Definitely,

1106
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 6: when that run started, they started going, you know, a

1107
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 6: lot of offensive linemen in the first round. I think

1108
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 6: that was really the main thing of this draft, was

1109
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 6: like people's like, we have to have offensive linemen in

1110
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 6: this draft, and you saw all those go early. Quarterback

1111
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 6: always drives, and there wasn't a whole ton of that,

1112
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 6: you know, to controversy with the quarterback except for this

1113
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 6: sdor situation. So yeah, definitely was a fun draft going

1114
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 6: in a ton of ton of star power definitely was

1115
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 6: still fun.

1116
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 3: You mentioned how you thought Land and Jackson could almost

1117
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 3: sneak into the bottom of the first Bill's GM. Brandon

1118
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 3: being in an interesting comment post draft where he said,

1119
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 3: if you went off of Dion Walker's twenty twenty three tape,

1120
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 3: people would have take and him in the first round. Now,

1121
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 3: obviously his twenty twenty four tape was not as good,

1122
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 3: but the Kentucky defensive tackle, what kind of mid round

1123
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 3: value did you see in him as a fourth round

1124
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 3: selection on day three if they can get him back

1125
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 3: to the player he was in twenty twenty three.

1126
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, those are always the scary guys in the draft.

1127
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 6: Were always in our draft meetings with our scouts the well,

1128
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 6: if he plays like the last year, those are the

1129
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,919
Speaker 6: ones where it's I don't know, those are the ones

1130
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 6: that are the scary ones. So you have to look

1131
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 6: into those factors of you know, did you overvalue him

1132
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 6: the year before just when you're watching flashes, because that's

1133
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 6: what happens when you watch younger guys. You just see

1134
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 6: flashes of good things and you don't really study them

1135
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 6: and watch them as a whole. And that may have

1136
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 6: happened with him where this year once people really dialed

1137
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 6: in and started looking at them, looking at Walker and okay,

1138
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 6: of the down in, down out inconsistencies that he had

1139
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 6: this year where a lot of times where I talked

1140
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 6: about Lanna Jackson, you don't have to look for him,

1141
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 6: Walker was the opposite where you're like, okay, big guy,

1142
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 6: come on, let's do something. So that's always the interesting

1143
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 6: discussions in draft rooms of can we get it out

1144
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 6: of whatever player that is on a consistent basis? And

1145
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 6: that'll be the task of the Bills coaches to see, Okay,

1146
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 6: these flashes that we see, can we have him do

1147
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 6: this on a consistent basis?

1148
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 5: Give us some of your other names of you know,

1149
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 5: your favorite guys who maybe are are going to emerge

1150
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 5: from the mid rounds of this draft into you know,

1151
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 5: front page news when the when on Monday afternoons after

1152
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 5: these games are played.

1153
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know about mid but I mean just

1154
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 6: the Bill's draft as a whole I thought was tremendous.

1155
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 6: I didn't think going in, of course, I don't think

1156
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 6: anyone could predict it, like, hey, just go take all defense.

1157
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 6: But when you look at them, like the offense, which

1158
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 6: is not the problem, you know over the last few

1159
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 6: years of what's going to get them over the hump,

1160
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 6: like they can go score thirty on anybody, it's the

1161
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 6: inability to get stops when they've really needed to get stops,

1162
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 6: and that starts with defense and showing and of course

1163
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 6: the defensive coach, and you know that's his where you know,

1164
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 6: he owned his game on the defensive side, so that's

1165
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 6: got to hurt him even more. So, you know, just

1166
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 6: the concerted effort of let's go get all defensive players.

1167
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 6: Absolutely love Maxwell Harriston. I think he's the I thought

1168
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 6: he was the best cover corner, pure cover corner in

1169
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 6: the draft, Yes, including you Travis Hunter, just electric with

1170
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 6: his movements and athletic ability, the confidence, the ball skills,

1171
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 6: and you know then to triple up on the defensive

1172
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 6: line there with TJ Standers, you know, just the junkyard

1173
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 6: dog in there, you know, sort of the opposite of Walker,

1174
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 6: where you know TJ plays the game the right way

1175
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 6: and it brings it every play and you know, may

1176
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 6: not have the elite ability, but you know what you're

1177
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 6: getting in the competitiveness and football instincts of it. So

1178
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 6: you know, as a whole, I think they did a

1179
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 6: lot of good things there with players that I really liked.

1180
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 3: You mentioned how a lot of teams made it a

1181
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 3: priority to get offensive linemen in round one. Every one

1182
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 3: of the division rivals did that. Will Campbell to the Patriots,

1183
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 3: armand Membo to the Jets. Dolphins go D line with

1184
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 3: Kenneth Grant before they go O line with the guard

1185
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 3: you know, out of Arizona in Sava and AA. But

1186
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that the rest of the division took

1187
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 3: a page out of Buffalo's book. But the Bills have

1188
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 3: prioritized the lines. They've won five straight division titles. It's

1189
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 3: like the rest of the division finally said, you know what,

1190
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 3: maybe we should start drafting some linemen too, because at

1191
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 3: the end of the day, the Patriots draft three, the

1192
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 3: Dolphins draft two or three here on the O line alone.

1193
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 3: So it just seems like the lines finally are priorities

1194
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 3: for everybody in the division. And I can't say that

1195
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 3: that was the case the last few years.

1196
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, look, the Bills are in a different class

1197
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 6: than the rest of the division. You know, the Bill's

1198
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 6: goals are winning Super Bowl, not to win. They know

1199
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 6: they're going to win a division unless something unforeseen happens.

1200
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 6: It's how do we beat the Chiefs? How do we

1201
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 6: win a Super Bowl? That's what they're playing for. Whereas

1202
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 6: the rest the Patriots, I thought they did a fantastic

1203
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 6: job of Okay, we're on the way up. We got

1204
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 6: this young quarterback we took last year. How do we

1205
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 6: surround him with an infrastructure for him to succeed. The

1206
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 6: Jets and the Dolphins are kind of in the middle

1207
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 6: where they can you know, just trying to come up

1208
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 6: with Justin Field's experiment, new head coach. And the Dolphins

1209
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 6: are just kind of where are we as an organization

1210
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 6: and how do we help Tua? But the Bills are

1211
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 6: on a different level. Those other three teams are trying

1212
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 6: to catch up to what the Bills are doing, whether

1213
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 6: that's drafting on the line, whether that's getting a better quarterback.

1214
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 6: They're all at different different positions where they are and

1215
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 6: their development, but they're all chasing the Bills, And you know,

1216
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 6: the blueprint is number one. Forget the lines. No one's

1217
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 6: close to Josh Allen those other teams. So until that,

1218
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 6: until Drake May shows he can be I think, really

1219
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 6: the Patriots and you're looking at they're the only one

1220
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 6: that really has a chance.

1221
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 4: Right, and that's really true. I mean, you got the Dolphins.

1222
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 4: They've got their guy in Tua.

1223
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 5: You can think what you want about Tua, whether you

1224
00:59:58,120 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 5: can stay on the field or how much they have

1225
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 5: to do to help him. Drake May seems to be

1226
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 5: that guy. And now with Mike Vrabel, you know in

1227
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 5: the eleven picks they took a lot of help for

1228
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 5: him on both sides of the ball. They got better,

1229
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 5: and Vrabel with the whole new philosophy is you got

1230
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 5: to think that Patriots is going to take a giant

1231
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 5: leap forward. And of course with a new head coach

1232
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 5: in New York again with the Jets, it's kind of

1233
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 5: a wait and see. We don't know what that's gonna

1234
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 5: look like under Aaron Glenn because we don't know what

1235
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 5: kind of coach he's going to be. So you're right,

1236
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 5: these all three of those teams are chasing Buffalo, but

1237
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 5: two of them think they've got their quarterback. The Jets,

1238
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 5: I think, are still wondering how much of a gap.

1239
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 5: Last year the Bills were supposed to be third or fourth.

1240
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 5: Now there you know, here we are. How so the

1241
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 5: narrative can be what it is at this time of year.

1242
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 5: But how good can the Patriots get? You said, how

1243
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 5: good can the Patriots get? How much can Aaron Glenn

1244
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 5: do in your one? And how much is it going

1245
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 5: to take for the Dolphins to close that gap?

1246
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 6: Ye think, as you mentioned last year, this time there

1247
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 6: was a lot of question marks about the Bills with

1248
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 6: the with all the losses on offense, and if Josh

1249
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 6: could be that guy. Well he showed yep, I can

1250
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 6: carry this team. Everybody jump on my back and I'll

1251
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 6: raise the level of everyone else, and uh, you know,

1252
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 6: really upped his game there. And then the other team,

1253
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 6: the Dolphins aren't going anywhere with two you know. I

1254
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 6: you know, we've we've seen that, We've done that. We

1255
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 6: know what they are. They're you know, go get him

1256
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 6: in the cold. They're not going to win a game.

1257
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 6: They're not going to win a competitive game. So I

1258
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 6: don't believe in the Dolphins at all.

1259
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 4: The Jets.

1260
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 6: I love Aaron Glenn what he did last year with Detroit,

1261
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 6: but still just the team as a whole, they'll be competitive.

1262
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 6: I think just having stability there, getting Aaron Rodgers out

1263
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 6: of the building, all the nonsense that was going on there,

1264
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 6: with the Jets, I think they'll be better just because

1265
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 6: of that. Now, whether that's good enough to beat the Bills,

1266
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 6: I don't see that at all. And then, as as

1267
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 6: I've said, the Patriots are really the wild card of

1268
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 6: because Mike Rabel has shown I can be a playoff

1269
01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 6: winning coach, I can bring stability and competitiveness to an organization.

1270
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 6: He's shown he can do that. And now Drake May

1271
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 6: has showed the flashes last year where he really was

1272
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 6: doing it all on his own for the most part,

1273
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 6: and they didn't have a lot of talent, and not

1274
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 6: just the draft, but even in the offseason. They know

1275
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 6: huge free agent signings with Milton Williams and Carlton Davis

1276
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 6: and Harold Landry where they I thought they made smart.

1277
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 6: You know, they spent a lot of money, but they

1278
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 6: had the money to spend. They made a lot of

1279
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 6: smart free agent signings in the offseason. And now I

1280
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 6: think their draft. They did a good job in the

1281
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 6: draft to help out Drake May as well. So they're

1282
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 6: really the X factor of they will be a lot better.

1283
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 6: It's just how much better will they be.

1284
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 3: Talking with NFL network analysts for NFL personnel exec Mark Ross,

1285
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 3: and you mentioned the Chiefs as still the team to catch.

1286
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 2: There's still the standard bearer in the AFC. And you

1287
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 2: look at their draft.

1288
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 3: And they go O line, D line, D line their

1289
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 3: first three picks, you know, with Josh Simmons, who granted

1290
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 3: is coming back from a Betel attendant injury. We'll have

1291
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 3: to see how that plays out for him in his

1292
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 3: rookie season. And then Omar Norman lotta defensive tackle, ashed

1293
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 3: in Julotti the edge rusher out of Louisville. And then

1294
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 3: they got a nice player in the mid rounds too,

1295
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 3: Mark and Jalen Royle's the receiver out of Utah State

1296
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 3: in round four. And then they did like an Isaiah

1297
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 3: Pacheco re Ducks in the seventh round with that Breshard Smith,

1298
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 3: a converted wide receiver to running back out of SMU.

1299
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 3: Kid runs a four to three nine and has great hands.

1300
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 3: This is how the Chiefs have kind of stayed ahead

1301
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 3: of everybody in the division. They part with overpriced players

1302
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 3: or players that want too much money, like a Tyreek Hill,

1303
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 3: and then draft really well every year.

1304
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's the key. And look that they've got

1305
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 6: the pillars, you know, pursch Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahoons

1306
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 6: and Andy Reid is Andy Reid. So they've got the

1307
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 6: pillars there and everything can flow from that. And that's

1308
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 6: a sets how the Bills should be now too, Like, Okay,

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01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 6: we've got Sean and we've got Josh, and everything should

1310
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 6: flow from that if we make smart freed and signings

1311
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Speaker 6: and draft. Well, and I thought the Josh Simmons pick

1312
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 6: was unbelievable. He was to me the most talented offensive

1313
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 6: lineman in the draft. You know, the injury of course

1314
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 6: played a part in where he went, but just as

1315
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 6: far as pure talent, I mean, he's a perennial Pro

1316
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 6: Bowl type talent there. And you know, I thought Royals

1317
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 6: was an excellent pick. They've been searching for that receiver consistency,

1318
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 6: and again past Mahomes raises the level of that whole

1319
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 6: group they've got there. But you know, Royals really has

1320
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 6: a lot of promise. And you know, with the Chiefs,

1321
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 6: with the Ravens, with the Bills, I think going into

1322
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 6: it this year again like those three teams will be

1323
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 6: the best you know up there, winning the whole ton

1324
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Speaker 6: of games, and one of those three teams will be

1325
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 6: the representative in the Super Bowl, and uh, you know,

1326
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Speaker 6: for the Chiefs, it's it's it's not easier, but when

1327
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 6: you've got Mahomes, it's it makes it takes a lot

1328
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 6: of pressure off of everything else that everything has to

1329
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 6: be perfect to build your organization around him.

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Speaker 5: So you've got you know, every year, we have this

1331
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 5: little bit of a carousel in the National Football League

1332
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 5: of new coaches. I think there's six or seven this year,

1333
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 5: the Jets and the Patriots, obviously the Titans, I think

1334
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 5: they're going into their second year with their guy. And

1335
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 5: we've got Pete Carroll back in the league on with

1336
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 5: Jim Harball in San Diego. How these new guys and

1337
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 5: particularly you know in the AFC with Pete Carroll, with

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01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:19,439
Speaker 5: with Vrabel, with Aaron Glenn and maybe even pick another

1339
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 5: one out of there, maybe with you know, Sean Payton

1340
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 5: and Denver just being in his second year. Which of

1341
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 5: these guys has the best chance of you know, knocking knocking,

1342
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 5: you know, one of the like the Bills or the

1343
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 5: Chiefs off of that pedestal, or the Ravens and Steelers

1344
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 5: off of that pedestal of being so good.

1345
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, last year I predicted, you know, for the Chargers.

1346
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 6: Let's just start there to go to the playoffs, because

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01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 6: it was you got a coach that just wins all

1348
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 6: the time, no matter what level he's at, and then

1349
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 6: you've got a quarterback and again I'll always get back

1350
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 6: to the pillars of number one of the quarterback and

1351
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 6: then they head coach. So to me, that was just

1352
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 6: written easily. The Chargers are going to be good. There's

1353
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 6: no reason they wouldn't because all the guy does is win.

1354
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 6: And then you've got Justin Herbert, who can be in

1355
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 6: the league quarterback. And so now in year two, I

1356
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 6: expect them to be right in the mix again. So

1357
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 6: that was a surprise at all for me. And then

1358
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 6: this year it's the same thing, almost mirror image with

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01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 6: Rabel and the Patriots of Okay, a coach who has

1360
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 6: shown I can win and I know how to build

1361
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 6: an organization and bring toughness and consistency to a program,

1362
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 6: and you've got a quarterback with a whole ton of promise.

1363
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 6: So you know, of the two last year was harball

1364
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 6: for me, and this year with Vrabel and the Patriots

1365
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 6: and Drake May, it's almost mirror images of what happened

1366
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 6: last year. And I expect the Patriots right there to

1367
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 6: be in the mix.

1368
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 2: Mark, thanks for the time.

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01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 3: We appreciate the insight and kind of just taking a

1370
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 3: look around the league at the NFL Draft. We kind

1371
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 3: of suffer from Bill's myopia here, so thanks for giving

1372
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 3: us a league wide perspective.

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01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 2: As always, we appreciate it.

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01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 6: Sure thing, my pleasure.

1375
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 4: Appreciate you.

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01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 9: Man.

1377
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,959
Speaker 3: That's Mark Ross, NFL Network analyst and for NFL person

1378
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 3: elexec joining us, and I think he kind of shed

1379
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 3: some light on why Dion Walker lasted as long as

1380
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 3: he did on the board. There were concerns out there

1381
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 3: about the difference in play from twenty twenty three to

1382
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. Now the Bills went took a deep

1383
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 3: dive into as to why, and it was clear that

1384
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:27,479
Speaker 3: they felt the back injury was the major issue there

1385
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 3: and maybe not everybody dove into that to see how

1386
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 3: that impacted his play, whether it was leverage because his

1387
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 3: back hurt couldn't get as low as his stance, and

1388
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 3: plus you're putting pressure on that back every time you

1389
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 3: engage with an offensive lineman, it's going to impact your play.

1390
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 5: We have Brownie and I happen to have his casual

1391
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 5: conversation with Sean McDermott, and he talked about all the

1392
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 5: draft picks and gave us a little thumbnail on him,

1393
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 5: you know, and stuff. And the insight and detail into

1394
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 5: what the Bills think is important and what the dive

1395
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 5: they do into these guys, it was fascinating to listen to.

1396
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 5: And you know, the development side of this organization is,

1397
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 5: I think it's a little different than other teams have

1398
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 5: in their organization and and that's why you know, this

1399
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 5: stuff we're talking about Dion Walker and you know, even

1400
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 5: Land and Jackson and all these guys, The Bills have

1401
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 5: a different view of what their future could be and

1402
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 5: more confidence in how they could help that future than

1403
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 5: other teams do. And so that's why they picked the

1404
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 5: individuals they do. When there's other guys on the board

1405
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 5: who may or may not have you know, the upside

1406
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 5: or the downside or the size or whatever, whatever, the

1407
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 5: reason they picked the individuals they pick goes really deep

1408
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 5: and it's really it was fascinating to listen to for

1409
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 5: the time, for the few minutes we spent with Sean

1410
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 5: watching these guys stretch. But a lot of fun, I mean,

1411
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 5: and there's a lot of promise in this crew and

1412
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 5: we'll see if they can they can bring it out

1413
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 5: of them.

1414
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I look, I mean they clearly fell. And look,

1415
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 3: the deep dive that you're talking about doesn't just deal

1416
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 3: with playing ability, skill set and all that stuff. They

1417
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 3: deal with the off the field stuff. Why do they

1418
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 3: have the personality that they do? Mental mindset, upbringing, family life,

1419
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 3: you know, how are they socially with friends? All of

1420
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 3: that stuff, because it all goes into the soup.

1421
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, to put it generally, they want to find out

1422
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 2: what makes the guy tick? Yeah, what where?

1423
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 5: What can we envision? What environment can we envision for

1424
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 5: him that he would thrive in? Right, and and talk

1425
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 5: about it and have meetings about it and conversations about it,

1426
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 5: and then you know they're they're pretty good at it.

1427
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 2: It seems like yep. Uh.

1428
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 3: Let's get back to the mail bag as we check

1429
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 3: out some questions there that you submitted to us via

1430
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 3: the tweet sheet, and Jason asked the preseason count towards

1431
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 3: the six game suspensions for Hoyt and Ogan Jovi. The

1432
01:09:55,520 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 3: answer there is no, it's regular season games. That's where

1433
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,600
Speaker 3: it starts. So week one, so you know when they

1434
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,799
Speaker 3: get to the formation of the fifty three man roster,

1435
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 3: those two guys will be put on the reserve suspended list,

1436
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 3: so they do not count towards their fifty three So

1437
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 3: that affords them two more roster spots to give to

1438
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 3: players that can help them in the first six weeks

1439
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 3: and are not under suspension. But it does that that

1440
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:24,440
Speaker 3: six game suspension does not begin tolling until week one regular.

1441
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 5: Season, and they don't have to leave the building until then,

1442
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:27,719
Speaker 5: so they can be in training camp.

1443
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, prese preseason, you know.

1444
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 5: So you can imagine a guy like Hoyt and Nogunjobi,

1445
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 5: they may get a lot of reps in preseason games.

1446
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, to get them up to steed and acclimated.

1447
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 5: Acclimated, and because they're gonna have six weeks to rest

1448
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 5: and heal up if they get it, if they tweak

1449
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 5: an ankle or something. So there's that, but yeah, that's

1450
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 5: they don't when when their suspension starts week one, that's

1451
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 5: when they leave, and it's also week six, they can

1452
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 5: come back and start practicing two weeks before they're back.

1453
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 5: They can be in the building, start getting acclimated back

1454
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 5: into the game, and then they can play at week.

1455
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 3: Seven Carmelo asks the interview with Brandon Bean, projecting players

1456
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 3: has got to be an extremely important part of recruitment.

1457
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 3: With that said, how will the emergence of artificial intelligence

1458
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 3: play in this critical area of recruiting three to.

1459
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 2: Four years down the road. Yeah, that's going to be interesting.

1460
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 3: How is AI going to be worked into the different

1461
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:31,480
Speaker 3: aspects of football, whether it's game plan preparation, personnel evaluation,

1462
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. I think if they find if

1463
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 3: there is a way to streamline the process by using

1464
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 3: artificial intelligence, and AI is a reliable tool for that.

1465
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 3: And I think that's the big rub here because for

1466
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 3: decades it has been humans evaluating humans, and there are people.

1467
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 2: That have been doing it a lot longer.

1468
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,560
Speaker 3: And even though you can put into an AI database

1469
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 3: all that information for AI to spit out answers to

1470
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 3: you how effective is it because it can't just go

1471
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 3: based off of information. You have to read the individual

1472
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 3: and who they are and as Steve said earlier, what

1473
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 3: makes them tick? And I don't know if AI is

1474
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 3: advanced enough where they could sit a college prospect in

1475
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 3: front of an AI machine and answer questions and AI

1476
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 3: can determ that guy's got Bill's.

1477
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 2: DNA, he's a fit.

1478
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you know.

1479
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 5: What I mean, here's we all know what you know

1480
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:39,759
Speaker 5: analytics is about. They're trying to find information that is key.

1481
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 5: So you got to you got to put in so

1482
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 5: much information to allow whatever it is to spit out

1483
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 5: the right data. Uh, spit out the answers that you're

1484
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 5: the questions you're asking to and there's so many because

1485
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,759
Speaker 5: it's human beings. I mean, you have to pour in

1486
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 5: information like, well, Okay, this guy played really well this week.

1487
01:12:59,479 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 4: Why was that?

1488
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 5: Well, it might be because of the schedule in the

1489
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 5: week leading up to it.

1490
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 2: Did we put that in that? Did we put that in? No?

1491
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 2: We didn't.

1492
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 5: We didn't spend time. We just put the stats in.

1493
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 5: You know, So there's information. When you're dealing with human beings,

1494
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 5: the information you have to pour into the AI to

1495
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 5: get answers out of it is vast because it affects

1496
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 5: everything that the kid experiences affects it.

1497
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 3: Right, And I think also, I think any personnel executive

1498
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 3: would tell you that every player is different in their

1499
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 3: own way, Like they both might have the same forty time,

1500
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 3: but this guy doesn't care about anything else but football.

1501
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:45,759
Speaker 3: While this guy also wants to be a successful DJ.

1502
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 3: That's you know, while playing for you know, so there

1503
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 3: are similar statistical and measurement data that you can put

1504
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 3: in to an AI system that makes two players look alike.

1505
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 3: But differentiating them, I think is the most important thing.

1506
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 3: It's not what they have in common, it's what makes

1507
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 3: them different. And you have to decide does this flavor

1508
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 3: work better with the bills or does this flavor work better?

1509
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 3: And sometimes there's a lot of human intuition that has

1510
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 3: to go into that. I don't know if AI can capture.

1511
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 5: Right Obviously, the question is, you know, do you have

1512
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 5: enough information to pump in there? Yeah, AI as they

1513
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 5: will use AI, for sure, they'll they'll use find some

1514
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 5: ways and how it works is, you know, remains to be.

1515
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 3: Some I mean, if we all remember when analytics first

1516
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 3: came online for NFL clubs, the vast majority of the

1517
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 3: responses you would get from NFL teams was it's not

1518
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 3: going to be the ultimate decision maker, but it will

1519
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 3: be layered in to our decision making process. I would

1520
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 3: anticipate that AI makes the same kind of matriculation into

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Speaker 3: the NFL.

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01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 4: I'll say this though more more analytics.

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01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 5: The more it becomes trusted and head coaches and coaching

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01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 5: staffs understand it, it's becoming more and more part of

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01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 5: a higher priority on the decisions they do make on

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01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 5: game day and others.

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01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 4: Because it's come a long way.

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01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 5: Coaches understand it, they get the data out of it,

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01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 5: they see the results of it, and they trust it

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01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 5: more and more and more as it proves itself. So

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01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 5: it'll be the same thing with AI, no doubt, as

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01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 5: they get better, if they put in more, better and

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01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 5: more accurate data, they'll get better answers out of it,

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01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 5: and they'll depend on it more. Just as time goes by.

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01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 3: Break time for us here, but more of your phone

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01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 3: calls for an OBL Friday fan mail Bag. Any question

1537
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 3: you got about the Bills, the NFL, the draft, free agency,

1538
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 3: let it rip. We got open lines for you, and

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01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 3: we've got more questions in the mail bag we have

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01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 3: to get to as well.

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Speaker 2: Here on one Bills Live presented by Colid of Health,

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01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 3: All right back here, I want Bill's Live. Chris Brown

1544
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 3: Steve tasked with you on an OBL Friday Fan mail

1545
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 3: Bag edition. As we take any and all of your

1546
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 3: questions about the NFL and the league at large, the Bills,

1547
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 3: the draft, free agency. It's all fair games. So let's

1548
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 3: go to the phones at eight O three oh five fifty,

1549
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 3: where we do have open lines for you, but we

1550
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 3: also have Travell in Buffalo.

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01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 2: What do you got for us? Travell?

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01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 11: Hey, thanks to ticking my call?

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01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 4: Sure you bet.

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01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 11: Yeah, I was calling it because everybody's talking about Brandon

1555
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 11: Bean and what he's done.

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01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 3: Uh.

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01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 11: And I think we was ready for a Super Bowl

1558
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 11: one when we went and grabbed Von Miller. But as

1559
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 11: he said, now one player isn't enough, and and you

1560
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 11: know when we got him, we got plagued with injuries.

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01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 11: The whole defensive plague with injuries these those next three years.

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01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 11: I think we was always there to tell we had

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01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 11: to get people off the couch. They even get a

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01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 11: defense in some of those years during that time. So

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01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 11: I think he's rebuilt in a good, good way. And

1566
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 11: like you said, one player is not so he's building

1567
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 11: a piece by piece.

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01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. Can't disagree with that.

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01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 3: And I think because of the injuries that you mentioned Treville,

1570
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 3: they felt it necessary.

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01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 2: To get younger as well.

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01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 3: Younger bodies are more appliable, they tend to hold up better,

1573
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 3: Whereas you know older players, older players with more miles

1574
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 3: on the tires. It's hard and grueling to get through

1575
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 3: a seventeen game season unscathed. Now, look, anybody can get

1576
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 3: hurt on any given play in the NFL, but I

1577
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 3: think the research will tell you that younger players tend

1578
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 3: to hold up better. They also recover faster if, in fact,

1579
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 3: they do get nicked or injured. So I think the

1580
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 3: Bills saw that their average age, particularly upfront on the

1581
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 3: defensive line, was getting on in years even on average,

1582
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 3: and they needed an influx of youth up there, and

1583
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 3: it's it's a big reason why they drafted three defensive

1584
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 3: a lignement.

1585
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, Brandon Being famously said, you know you're never one

1586
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 5: player away, and you know recent history is proof of it.

1587
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 5: The Jets thought they were one player away. They go

1588
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 5: get Aaron Rodgers. They're not so much, not so fast.

1589
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 5: You know, he gets nicked, it's not the same player

1590
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 5: comes back the next year. It just didn't work. It's

1591
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 5: one player is not going to do it because of

1592
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 5: the risk of injury. Of course, I made the kind

1593
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 5: of snarky comment when we're talking around the office here

1594
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 5: about you're never one player away. I go, if the

1595
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 5: player's Josh or Lamar or Pat Mahomes, some of these

1596
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:43,440
Speaker 5: teams may be one player away.

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01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:44,879
Speaker 4: Those guys make a difference.

1598
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 3: It's also a big reason why you see quarterbacks go

1599
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 3: early in the draft, sometimes too early.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes sometimes you feel like you are one player away.

1601
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 5: But I think what you really feel is that that's

1602
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 5: our biggest need and that's a big difference maker we

1603
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 5: can get. Certainly Josh Allen would be enough to put

1604
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:03,480
Speaker 5: some of the teams.

1605
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 4: Over the top.

1606
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 5: But like I've said, the Bills have been good enough

1607
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 5: for years to go to and win it. So of

1608
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 5: the Chiefs, so of the Bengals, so of the Ravens,

1609
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 5: so of now Philly. You know, San Francisco has got

1610
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 5: to feel that way. There's got to There are teams

1611
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 5: out there that feel like they're they're not just a

1612
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 5: player away, they're like one or two plays away from

1613
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:28,799
Speaker 5: going and winning.

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01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 2: So there, you know, there's that. But yeah, I agree

1615
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 2: with you.

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01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 5: We did feel really good when Vaughan got They picked

1617
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 5: Vaughn up and thought it was going It was going

1618
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 5: good for a hot, hot minute there, and then Vaughn

1619
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 5: gets hurt and then you know, it kind of went sideways,

1620
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 5: and now the defense needed some guys didn't have him,

1621
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 5: getting guys coming off the couch, got guys who were

1622
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 5: long and the tooth coming in to finish seasons with

1623
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 5: us and played hard and played well, and you know

1624
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 5: we loved and respecting them, but we just weren't good enough.

1625
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 5: You needed those last couple of plays, not those last

1626
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 5: couple of guys.

1627
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 2: That's what it comes down to.

1628
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 11: Uh.

1629
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 3: Let's take a look at the mail bag and get

1630
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 3: another question that we have there. This one comes from

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01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 3: Greg who says, this team positionally reminds me of a

1632
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 3: hockey team with multiple lines of very good players and

1633
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:20,919
Speaker 3: only one superstar. What memorable hockey team would the Buffalo

1634
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 3: Bills be.

1635
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 2: That's a tough one.

1636
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 5: I it would Unfortunately, probably the Sabers with hashik.

1637
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 3: Oh went all, went all the way to the finals,

1638
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 3: got to the finals.

1639
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 2: I think they're a little better than that.

1640
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say so too, but that's that's kind

1641
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 5: of what you're Maybe the Penguins.

1642
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 2: When they only had Yoger after Lemieux left, what do

1643
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 2: you think of that?

1644
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe.

1645
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 3: They had Lemou and Yager for years, and then Lemieux

1646
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 3: with his back had to retire, and then they only

1647
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 3: had Yager and he was like the quintessential superstar.

1648
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 2: And I mean they had other players. I don't know.

1649
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 2: That's a tough one.

1650
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 5: That is, it's apples to oranges too a little bit

1651
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 5: because of the sports being different, but interesting though. I

1652
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 5: still think I still I'll still say it. I mean,

1653
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 5: the Bills are going to be right there unless there's

1654
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 5: a lightning strike, and it's gonna it's gonna come down

1655
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 5: to a play here and a play there.

1656
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:24,879
Speaker 4: He just guess you gotta go your way once.

1657
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 2: In a while.

1658
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Greg in the mail Bag asks, oh sorry, that

1659
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 3: was Greg. Lauren in the mail Bag asks why aren't

1660
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 3: kickers cross trained to perform both punting and kicking duties?

1661
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,560
Speaker 2: It saves a roster spot. Surprising.

1662
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,959
Speaker 3: There hasn't been a single kicker that handles both duties

1663
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 3: that I can recall.

1664
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 4: A long time.

1665
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 5: You know, back in the day, there was some guys

1666
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 5: who tried to do it. I couldn't even tell you

1667
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 5: their names. You're right, it's hard to be good at both.

1668
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 5: That's all there is to it, right.

1669
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 3: Obviously, and with all the practice you would have to

1670
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 3: dedicate to be good at both. I think you would

1671
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 3: also run the risk of succumbing to what you hear

1672
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 3: kickers sometimes refer to as a dead leg. You know,

1673
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 3: the distance on their place kicks and their punts for

1674
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 3: that matter, may not go as far if they're doing

1675
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 3: twice the work to satisfy being good at both positions

1676
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:16,759
Speaker 3: in both roles.

1677
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, think about this too. In the nineteen sixties, there

1678
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 5: were thirty six guys on the team. You had Paul McGuire,

1679
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 5: who was a linebacker was also the punter, and then

1680
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 5: you had a specialist kicker. They're just worn't enough bodies.

1681
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 5: Now you got fifty three guys on the squad, and now.

1682
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:37,719
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, so not mean on the practice.

1683
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, not only do you have a kicker, you've also

1684
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 5: got a punter and a guy that snaps it, all

1685
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 5: three of them, so that it's that important that you

1686
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 5: want a guy that can do it and do that

1687
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 5: alone and be good at it.

1688
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 3: I guess the good answer, the best answer, Lauren is

1689
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 3: sure there are players certainly talented enough to do both things,

1690
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 3: but I think the game has become so specialized that

1691
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 3: I think all parties involved have determined that it's better

1692
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 3: to be to have a kicker that's exceptionally good at

1693
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 3: kicking field goals and then a punter that's exceptionally good

1694
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 3: at punting.

1695
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 4: It does it.

1696
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 2: It did kind of cross my mind.

1697
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 3: Though, because we were just talking the other day to

1698
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 3: Jake Camarda and Brad Robbins here in the field house,

1699
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 3: and Brad, who's only kicked for Cincinnati for a year

1700
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 3: and then was trying to find work last year and

1701
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 3: is now here on this roster, said, you guys don't

1702
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 3: punch a whole lot around here. And I'm thinking to myself,

1703
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 3: if the Bills offense continues to be that good, could

1704
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 3: you make a better case for finding somebody that plays kicks.

1705
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 2: I don't know. Here's the problem, because they don't do

1706
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 2: a lot of it.

1707
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 5: Here's the problem. You have to you have to have

1708
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 5: plan A. If which is plan A, which you got

1709
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 5: to You gotta this guy. Plan A is a kicker

1710
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 5: and a punter. He's gonna do both. It's gonna be awesome.

1711
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 5: I don't know who's going the backup quarterback is gonna

1712
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 5: hold for him.

1713
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 4: Whatever.

1714
01:23:56,360 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 5: Great, So then he tweaks his hand. Now you've got

1715
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 5: to fill two roster spots, and so somebody on your

1716
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 5: roster that you've been depending on offense and defense is

1717
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 5: going to be out of the mix. And then you've

1718
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 5: got a bigger problem because of one guy getting hurt.

1719
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 5: If the worst happens, not even the worst. If the

1720
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 5: guy during a game can't finish, now you're sunk. There

1721
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 5: is that. Now, if it's a place kicker, sometimes your

1722
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,680
Speaker 5: punter can make that do make it work, he's done

1723
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 5: it before.

1724
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 4: Whatever.

1725
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 5: You always have an emergency kicker. But you see the

1726
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 5: problem if if one guy goes down, you lose two.

1727
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, in terms of roles on your special team. So

1728
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:44,440
Speaker 2: that is a good point.

1729
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 4: That then that's a problem.

1730
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 5: Then then you got then your GM during the week

1731
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 5: has got to bring in punters and kickers, try and

1732
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 5: both out sign two guys and then deactivate somebody else

1733
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 5: an extra guy on game. But now somebody you don't

1734
01:24:58,120 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 5: have an extra linebacker, you don't have an extra de

1735
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 5: lineman or wide receiver, whatever, because you've got now two

1736
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 5: guys doing the job that were last week you only

1737
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,560
Speaker 5: had one guy doing it. At the ripple effects I

1738
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 5: think are a little scary.

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01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 3: I mean, think about that Pittsburgh playoff game where you

1740
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 3: know Sam Martin pulls his hamstring tracing a block kick right,

1741
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 3: pulls his hamstring, and if he did both, now you're

1742
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 3: out a kicker and U punter. That's right, So yeah,

1743
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 3: that's a good point. Jacob in the mail Bag asks

1744
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 3: only two positions that I fear injury with are Josh

1745
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 3: Allen a quarterback and middle linebacker with Bernard. Do you

1746
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:35,440
Speaker 3: expect more competition to be brought in at middle linebacker

1747
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 3: or perhaps the Bills see that much upside in Buffalo? Joe, Yeah,

1748
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 3: I mean you've got Specter here and Andresen who are

1749
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 3: technically the backup middle linebackers. I wouldn't be surprised if

1750
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 3: there's more competition brought in.

1751
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:52,799
Speaker 4: Well, they're they're gonna have guys in camp.

1752
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't know if it's gonna be

1753
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 3: some household name type player. I doubt that, but yeah,

1754
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 3: they'll they'll see who they can along maybe a young

1755
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 3: player with some potential. So yeah, we'll have to wait

1756
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 3: and see. But I would expect that there are four

1757
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 3: quarterbacks on the roster. Nobody's challenging Josh obviously, but it's

1758
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 3: going to be a pretty interesting competition behind him. You know,

1759
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 3: Mike White, Mitchell Trubisky, both still under contract, and Shane Bouchelle,

1760
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 3: you know, who spent last year on injured reserve after

1761
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 3: getting injured in that last preseason game.

1762
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 5: So here's the and you know the names is Joe Andreeson,

1763
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 5: Terrell Bernard, Matt Mlano, Baylen Spector, Eddie Ulifocio, and Dorian Williams.

1764
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 5: That's six guys, and you'll go to camp with ten. Yeah,

1765
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 5: maybe ten.

1766
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 2: I think ten's a good number.

1767
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 5: And so it'll be whether one of those guys and

1768
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 5: you know they didn't they didn't draft anybody at linebacker,

1769
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 5: so they'll all be guys who have either or rookie

1770
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 5: free agents, or they're going to be guys.

1771
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 2: Who are still sitting out there in free agency, yeah,

1772
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 2: or free agents.

1773
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 5: Let me just double check the list of and I

1774
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 5: think there might be one or two of them. There's yeah,

1775
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 5: there's one Keanta Jenkins from Virginia teen drafted, but he drafted.

1776
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 3: He's more of an undersized player that I think is

1777
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 3: going to factor into that hybrid three safety position because

1778
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 3: he only goes two hundred.

1779
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 2: And ten pounds. He is an athlete. Right.

1780
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 3: I think he's going to have a real shot to

1781
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 3: hang around for a little bit if he can find

1782
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 3: his niche in that sad package role.

1783
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 5: If they think he's got it in him and it's

1784
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 5: just going to take him innute, he's a practice squad

1785
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 5: dude right away.

1786
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so there you have it. You're right.

1787
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 5: Their base defense only plays two linebackers. Yeah, I think

1788
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:55,600
Speaker 5: in the middle of that the key guys obviously the nickelback.

1789
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 5: If if Tarren Johnson and goes dead, that you're in problem.

1790
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 5: That's the guy who's the real key to that, not

1791
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:05,480
Speaker 5: the linebackers.

1792
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 3: Yep, that's part of the reason why they drafted Jordan Hancock.

1793
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 3: Gotta take a break here, finish with some final thoughts

1794
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:12,640
Speaker 3: on the tweets sheet. Next here on one Bill's Live

1795
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 3: Stay with.

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01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:32,640
Speaker 12: Us, all right, seeve, So we come across these ridiculous

1797
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 12: stories every so.

1798
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 3: Often, and you know how we often hear about hitch

1799
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 3: hikers or climbers getting rescued off mountains because you.

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01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 2: Know, they whatever it is.

1801
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 3: Well, there was one that was there was this guy

1802
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 3: trying to climb Mount Fuji in Japan had to get

1803
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:50,680
Speaker 3: airlifted off of the mountain because of altitude sickness. They

1804
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 3: find out four days later, this guy's back on the

1805
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,719
Speaker 3: mountain and they're calling for help a second time.

1806
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,719
Speaker 2: Now here's the good this time, here's the worst part.

1807
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 3: He did go back in a mission to get to

1808
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 3: the top, like, gosh, darn it, I got altitude, I'm

1809
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 3: going back, I'm getting phone. He literally went back for

1810
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 3: his belongings. He went looking for his cell phone, yes,

1811
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:18,600
Speaker 3: forget his phone. Went he went back to look for

1812
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 3: his cell phone and the other belongings that got left

1813
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:22,639
Speaker 3: behind in the airlift out of there.

1814
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:24,799
Speaker 2: So he's back.

1815
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 3: There, and the only reason he got rescued a second

1816
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 3: time is because another hiker came across him and he

1817
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 3: was motionless on the ground with altitude sickness looking for

1818
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:34,719
Speaker 3: his dang phone.

1819
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 2: Dope, it's not worth it, dude doing.

1820
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 3: And so apparently it's not a penalty to get rescued

1821
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 3: off the mountain there on Mount Fuji. But because he

1822
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 3: had to get twice in four days, people are outraged

1823
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 3: on social media. They charge that guy for making the

1824
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 3: people go back.

1825
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:53,720
Speaker 4: Nobody could grab the guy's phone for him. Come on,

1826
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 4: help a brother out to geo track my phone.

1827
01:29:57,800 --> 01:29:58,759
Speaker 2: We'll see you on Monday.

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Speaker 3: Rookie Minicamp next week.